Tony Schwartz, the co-author of Trump’s massive best seller The Art of the Deal claims to be the person who knows Trump the best, outside his family, since he spent so much time observing him for their book, and he’s spent the last year or so going on a media tour trashing Trump; insulting Trump’s character, intelligence, vocabulary, morals, implying he doesn’t love his kids, even calling him a racist and an anti-Semite, and publicly fearing that a Trump Presidency will cause a nuclear holocaust.
In the interview below he says that he and family are ready to leave the country if Trump gets elected, which Trump has, because Schwartz is so afraid of what Trump would do with all that power. As someone who does consulting work with the federal government, I understand his concerns, and the level of power the U.S. President now has in the post-9/11 age of big data is absolutely unprecedented.
Trump goes ballistic over even the mildest of insults, so imagine how offended he might be over these incredibly personal attacks by someone he trusted so dearly.
Schwartz must be shaking in his boots.
Meanwhile Oprah’s freakishly huge brain size gave her the intelligence to stay on Trump’s good side. I remember when big brained Rosie O’Donnell (though not as big as Oprah’s)went on a televised tirade against Trump, Oprah was watching from the treadmill, and while everyone else was laughing hysterically and Rosie’s comic shtick, Oprah said “WHOAH! He is going to hear about that, and he is not going to be happy.”
The next day Oprah’s prediction came true, with Trump going on every media outlet imaginable to call Rosie a fat pig, a slob, a loser, not very bright. And he just wouldn’t stop; the insults went on for weeks.
Trump does not like being made fun of, and many speculate that he ran for President to avenge Obama mocking Trump at the White House Correspondents dinner.
Meanwhile Oprah very shrewdly stayed on Trump’s good side by inviting him and his kids on her show during the final weeks she was on the air and it was an honor Trump has never forgotten. When Trump asked Oprah to appear on his hit show The Apprentice, Oprah skillfully appealed to his ego by saying “you got the #1 show on TV. What do you need me for?”
Trump beamed with pride that the most successful person in the history of television was calling his show #1. He already greatly admired Oprah because Trump worships winners, but now his admiration went through the roof. Whether the show really was number one or not, Trump said it was, and Oprah knew better than to question it.
Despite being raised by an unwed welfare mother, Oprah’s freakishly huge brain size allowed her to learn the politics of America’s elite very rapidly and know that there are some people you just don’t fuck with, and Trump is one.
Some might say Oprah was not being smart, she was just being cowardly, but as J.R. Ewing used to say to people who claimed he didn’t scare them:
it takes brains to know when to be afraid. And since those seem to be in short supply, let me help you out. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
As the late J.P. Rushton once told me, everyone in life makes mistakes, but smarter people get ahead in life because they make fewer of them.
One of many, many mistakes Oprah shrewdly avoided was not overstaying her welcome. Oprah was smart enough to know that America can only handle one obscenely successful black person at a time, so after electing Obama, she very shrewdly ended her daily talk show while it was still #1, and retreated to a less visible role of running a cable network. She also likely instinctively understood that a backlash against visible minorities was imminent.
RaceRealist said:
Yes, brain size “caused” Oprah to stay on his good side! Come on dude. You know that her “big brain” didn’t “cause” her to “stay on his good side”.
Are these metaphors that you use? If so, can you give a warning? It’s ridiculous to read that “brain size ’caused’ someone to stay on someone’s good side”.
:eyeroll:
Saying that Oprah was responsible for electing Obama is funny. If she kept her nose out of it he’d of still won. McCain? Yea, no.
May I ask why you seem to be so obsessed with “celebrities”? Won’t lie, my only exposure to them is your blog.
And Trump won’t do anything. His buddy Bibi will see to it.
pumpkinperson said:
Yes, brain size “caused” Oprah to stay on his good side! Come on dude. You know that her “big brain” didn’t “cause” her to “stay on his good side”.
Brain size partly causes intelligence and intelligence causes shrewd decision making, like staying on Trump’s good side.
Saying that Oprah was responsible for electing Obama is funny. If she kept her nose out of it he’d of still won. McCain? Yea, no.
Without Oprah stepping in it would have been Hillary vs McCain. Until Oprah stepped in, he wasn’t even winning the black vote. That’s not to take away from his brilliant achievement, but no one gets to the white house without supporters and she was the single most important one and her timing was crucial.
May I ask why you seem to be so obsessed with “celebrities”?
Because I like observing intelligence do what it evolved to do: allow us to adapt situations to our advantage, and celebs have what most people want: money, power, status, adulation–all the stuff that prehistorically enhanced genetic fitness.
GondwanaMan said:
Saying that “brain size” causes a person to make certain decisions is worse than saying a person’s height causes basketball ability. Because no one would say Michael Jordan dominated basketball because of his “height”; even though we know almost 50% of the variance in basketball ability is probably caused height. Even with someone like Shaquille O’neal, someone might mention his height but there’s many other factors to in his success.
pumpkinperson said:
If we could have magically shrunk them to average height, I strongly suspect neither man would have remained competitive at the NBA level. Doesn’t mean height was the only cause, but it was almost certainly one of them. Similarly, if Mike Tyson dieted down to feather weight level, could he have still beat other heavyweights? I don’t think so. You could even say weight caused his boxing success, in that it was one of the causes.
RaceRealist said:
“Brain size partly causes intelligence and intelligence causes shrewd decision making, like staying on Trump’s good side.”
B causes I, I causes S, like staying on T’s good side. I’m sorry, I just think it’s extremely speculative conjecture saying that her “big brain” caused her to “stay on his good side”. Because that’s implying that experience has nothing to do with decisions.
“Without Oprah stepping in it would have been Hillary vs McCain. Until Oprah stepped in, he wasn’t even winning the black vote.”
Blacks would have voted for Obama either way. I was working at a homeless shelter at that time (time flies! Thank God I work for myself now) and all of her loved Obama. I think something like 92 percent of the black vote went to Obama. Do you have evidence that Oprah is the cause of it?
“Because I like observing intelligence do what it evolved to do: allow us to adapt situations to our advantage, and celebs have what most people want: money, power, status, adulation–all the stuff that prehistorically enhanced genetic fitness.”
Blathering to a bunch of less than IQ 90 morons and house wives doesn’t take any particular talent. Trash TV is meaningless. You’re just entertaining the morons. Oprah should make a successful dieting company. Wait.. Guess she can’t adapt that to her advantage. What good is a “big brain” then? =^)
pumpkinperson said:
“Brain size partly causes intelligence and intelligence causes shrewd decision making, like staying on Trump’s good side.”
B causes I, I causes S, like staying on T’s good side. I’m sorry, I just think it’s extremely speculative conjecture saying that her “big brain” caused her to “stay on his good side”. Because that’s implying that experience has nothing to do with decisions.
Not really. When a microcephalic makes bad decisions, no one questions that the small brain caused the bad decision making.
Blacks would have voted for Obama either way. I was working at a homeless shelter at that time (time flies! Thank God I work for myself now) and all of her loved Obama. I think something like 92 percent of the black vote went to Obama. Do you have evidence that Oprah is the cause of it?
You’re confusing the general election with the Democratic primary. Hillary was killing Obama in the black vote until Oprah campaigned in Iowa and South Carolina. Two economists estimated that the Oprah effect added a million votes to Obama’s total I the primary (from all races, not blacks only), and given how razor close the race was against Hillary, Oprah was the decisive factor.
Blathering to a bunch of less than IQ 90 morons and house wives doesn’t take any particular talent. Trash TV is meaningless.
It takes tons of talent because the field is so incredibly competitive, improvisational, lucrative and influential.
GondwanaMan said:
I don’t know, Jordan was listed at 6’6″ by the NBA but was really only 6’4″ and 3/4 according to most sources. So he wasn’t even that tall, and he probably still would’ve been successful at a shorter height.
pumpkinperson said:
Well it works better for NBA players who are freakishly tall.
RaceRealist said:
“If we could have magically shrunk them to average height, I strongly suspect neither man would have remained competitive at the NBA level.”
Innate talent wouldn’t disappear. Michael Jordan is actual around the average NBA height. I do not think that his innate talent would disappear if you were to shave 4 inches off of him. Or even if he’s as GondwanaMan says, 6 2, making him 5 10 wouldn’t make a difference. He’d still dominate.
“Similarly, if Mike Tyson dieted down to feather weight level, could he have still beat other heavyweights? I don’t think so. You could even say weight caused his boxing success, in that it was one of the causes.”
How do you know? Again, would his talent and innate ability disappear? No it wouldn’t. Basketball and boxing are two different comparisons though. His reach and speed caused his boxing success.
pumpkinperson said:
If someone’s freakishly tall and they’re also freakishly good at basketball, it’s logical to make a causal inference because it’s unlikely that the same person would be such an outlier on two unrelated traits.
Can you prove it 100%? No, but it’s reasonable conjecture.
GondwanaMan said:
There’s a lot of big-brained people who aren’t socially savvy or aware at all. Meanwhile, supposedly small-brained blacks tend to be very socially savvy for their IQ level. Thus, I believe there must be something other than brain size that’s the main determinant of “social savvy”.
Also aren’t Jews small-brained and social savvy (I can’t remember the data on Jewish brain size, but know they’re very smart given their brain size)?
Speaking of social skills, I’m re-reading Robert Cialdini’s “Influence”, the most important book ever on social skills, (even moreso than Trump’s Art of the Deal).
pumpkinperson said:
The correlation is weak I agree, but even weak correlations become noticeable at the extremes. Just from looking at this person’s head, you know he’s not socially savvy:
RaceRealist said:
Are people with megalencephaly super intelligent? Do they have stratospheric, untestable IQs?
“You’re confusing the general election with the Democratic primary. Hillary was killing Obama in the black vote until Oprah campaigned in Iowa and South Carolina.”
Source?
“It takes tons of talent because the field is so incredibly competitive, improvisational, lucrative and influential.”
Trash TV is meaningless. You’re talking into a microphone to the washed masses who love anything they’re told to, will buy anything they’re told to. Much talent. Such wow. Sure talking into a microphone takes talent, but the Oprah obsession is really weird. I also doubt that it’s “scientific” as you say and you’re just caught up with her television personality.
pumpkinperson said:
Are people with megalencephaly super intelligent? Do they have stratospheric, untestable IQs?
megalencephaly is a disorder where the brain overgrows in childhood and then shrinks in the teens. It has nothing to do with biologically normal huge brain size which is likely related to high IQ, given the brain-size IQ correlation.
“You’re confusing the general election with the Democratic primary. Hillary was killing Obama in the black vote until Oprah campaigned in Iowa and South Carolina.”
Source?
david plouffe’s book
“It takes tons of talent because the field is so incredibly competitive, improvisational, lucrative and influential.”
Trash TV is meaningless. You’re talking into a microphone to the washed masses who love anything they’re told to,
It was meaningful enough to make her the most influential woman in the World.
Sure talking into a microphone takes talent, but the Oprah obsession is really weird. I also doubt that it’s “scientific” as you say and you’re just caught up with her television personality.
I’m interested in racial and sex differences in brain size and success, so of course I’m fascinated that the World’s richest black (as of 2004) and most influential woman, has arguably the biggest brain in her race and gender.
RaceRealist said:
” where the brain overgrows in childhood and then shrinks in the teens.”
Source?
“It has nothing to do with biologically normal huge brain size which is likely related to high IQ, given the brain-size IQ correlation.”
Megalencephaly is a risk factor for low intelligence but not for visual and auditive impairments.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.835.8829&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Also read this.
Click to access Skoyles%20Human%20evolution%20expanded%20brains%20expertise%20not%20IQ.pdf
“david plouffe’s book”
…A source you can find online and one that I don’t have to buy some boring book please. Thank you.
“It was meaningful enough to make her the most influential woman in the World.”
When you’re speaking to sheeple who take to whatever the talking heads on TV say, it’s not that hard to become successful.
My point stands. Who the hell watches (or watched) daytime garbage television? Not I.
“I’m interested in racial and sex differences in brain size and success, so of course I’m fascinated that the World’s richest black (as of 2004) and most influential woman, has arguably the biggest brain in her race and gender.”
She isn’t anymore. Why aren’t you obsessed with the woman who dethroned her? What’s her IQ and brain size?
pumpkinperson said:
” where the brain overgrows in childhood and then shrinks in the teens.”
Source?
Here is one:
https://spectrumnews.org/news/brain-expands-too-fast-shrinks-too-soon-in-autism/
“It has nothing to do with biologically normal huge brain size which is likely related to high IQ, given the brain-size IQ correlation.”
Megalencephaly is a risk factor for low intelligence but not for visual and auditive impairments.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.835.8829&rep=rep1&type=pdfhttp://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.835.8829&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Can you please think about what I write before responding to me. I just told you I’m not talking about megalencephaly. Besides your source shows people with huge heads had the highest IQs in the study.
Also read this.
Click to access Skoyles%20Human%20evolution%20expanded%20brains%20expertise%20not%20IQ.pdf
It’s very easy to throw ideas in the air without any kind of empirical verification.
“david plouffe’s book”
…A source you can find online and one that I don’t have to buy some boring book please. Thank you.
The relevant part of the book is on-line:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=Fy-DffKelWIC&pg=PT117&lpg=PT117&dq=The+audacity+to+win+Oprah&source=bl&ots=4HkcQDshE5&sig=nFCUKh2oGusarZGn9tPeJGXNUaw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7z6qL3NbRAhUEzoMKHRzmBpgQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q=The%20audacity%20to%20win%20Oprah&f=false
“It was meaningful enough to make her the most influential woman in the World.”
When you’re speaking to sheeple who take to whatever the talking heads on TV say, it’s not that hard to become successful.
Actually hosting a successful solo talk national talk show is one of the hardest jobs on earth. Many of the brightest and funniest people in public life have tried and failed. It’s an incredibly competitive and improvisational field.
My point stands. Who the hell watches (or watched) daytime garbage television? Not I.
At her peak her show was watched by about 14 million Americans a day; largely suburban soccer moms, one of the most important demographics in society because they raise the kids and do the shopping. She was also watched by many celebs like Julia Roberts, Madonna, Arsenio Hall and Condi Rice. Andy Cohen is an Oprah fanatic.
“I’m interested in racial and sex differences in brain size and success, so of course I’m fascinated that the World’s richest black (as of 2004) and most influential woman, has arguably the biggest brain in her race and gender.”
She isn’t anymore. Why aren’t you obsessed with the woman who dethroned her? What’s her IQ and brain size?
Because never again in my life time is one human going to so perfectly personify the brain size-success correlation. And she remains the most influential woman; what other living woman has had a greater impact on society?
RaceRealist said:
The source is on autism and there is no mention of microcephaly. Are they related?
“Can you please think about what I write before responding to me. I just told you I’m not talking about megalencephaly. Besides your source shows people with huge heads had the highest IQs in the study.”
Conceded. I read the paper but I just glanced at the chart.
“It’s very easy to throw ideas in the air without any kind of empirical verification.”
Did you read it?
That book excerpt doesn’t tell me a thing.
I was able to find this study showing that her endorsement gave Obama 1 million votes and caused him to win the primary.
Click to access celebrityendorsements_garthwaitemoore.pdf
This I also concede.
“At her peak her show was watched by about 14 million Americans a day; largely suburban soccer moms, one of the most important demographics in society because they raise the kids and do the shopping. She was also watched by many celebs like Julia Roberts, Madonna, Arsenio Hall and Condi Rice. Andy Cohen is an Oprah fanatic.”
Do you have a figure for the demographics?
I don’t care about ‘celebrities’ man. I couldn’t care less about what they do.
“Because never again in my life time is one human going to so perfectly personify the brain size-success correlation. And she remains the most influential woman; what other living woman has had a greater impact on society?”
How do you know?
pumpkinperson said:
The source is on autism and there is no mention of microcephaly. Are they related?
You mean macrocephaly, and yes they’re related, but there are two kinds of macrocephaly: normal and pathological; just as there are two kinds of freakishly tall people: normal ones like shaq, and pathological ones like people with pituitary disorders. So macrocephalis is associated with high IQ just as extreme tallness is associated with basketball talent, as long as in both cases, you exclude the cases where the condition is caused by a medical disorder.
Conceded. I read the paper but I just glanced at the chart.
I’m impressed
“It’s very easy to throw ideas in the air without any kind of empirical verification.”
Did you read it?
It’s not my responsibility to read every crackpot theory ever published, nor do I have the time. It’s my responsibility to know what mainstream scientific thinking on this topic is, and it agrees with me. I did read the abstract, and their argument is flawed. The say brain size did not evolve for intelligence because there exist small brained smart people. Well the same objection can be made to their expertise theory. Small brained experts exist. Further, expertise and IQ are related. Knowledge is one of the most g loaded cognitive traits.
I was able to find this study showing that her endorsement gave Obama 1 million votes and caused him to win the primary.
Click to access celebrityendorsements_garthwaitemoore.pdf
This I also concede.
I’m impressed!
“Because never again in my life time is one human going to so perfectly personify the brain size-success correlation. And she remains the most influential woman; what other living woman has had a greater impact on society?”
How do you know?
Because it’s rare for things to line up that perfectly, given that the correlations involved are weak.
RaceRealist said:
PP, I admitted I was wrong. You should try it sometime. -^)
meLo said:
“Innate talent wouldn’t disappear. Michael Jordan is actual around the average NBA height. I do not think that his innate talent would disappear if you were to shave 4 inches off of him. Or even if he’s as GondwanaMan says, 6 2, making him 5 10 wouldn’t make a difference. He’d still dominate.”
Mike is the GOAT but:
There is only so much you can do with just talent alone. I’m surprised you disagree with this, it complements a domain specific definition of intelligence
RaceRealist said:
“There is only so much you can do with just talent alone. I’m surprised you disagree with this, it complements a domain specific definition of intelligence”
I don’t really have a stance yet. Just reading new things and posting it here to discuss to see how it holds up in debate.
Wasn’t really one-on-one since there was a whole bunch of other things going but this is ‘evidence’ against my assertion.
I’m much more knowledgable about baseball (specifically) and football, not NBA.
meLo said:
“Wasn’t really one-on-one since there was a whole bunch of other things going but this is ‘evidence’ against my assertion.”
True true, but you can’t deny mike didn’t take that L
Peregrino Nuzkwamia said:
Smart people get ahead in life because they make fewer mistakes … and/or are better at excusing them, covering them up, rectifying them, learning from them, and turning them to advantage.
The Philosopher said:
“Schwartz is the son of Felice Schwartz, the founder of the nonprofit organization Catalyst, Inc., which works to build inclusive workplaces and expand opportunities for women and businesses.[4] In 1974, Schwartz graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the University of Michigan, where he majored in American Studies”
Behind every gamma attempt at character assassination on a white nationalist.
There is a jew.
His mother promoted black advancement in the 1960s.
This ties in with my observation that the majority of ‘white’ civil rights leaders in the 1960s were jews.
Sailer’s Hi-Lo Tag Team.
High IQ + High Test [low empathy] vs Medium IQ/Test [high empathy].
People who notice this would have gotten academic prizes. Sailer is the world’s greatest living journalist. He’s more insightful than Hitchens was, precisely because he deals with more interesting topics, than say irrelevant things like a washed out guys interpretation of Washington Post headlines.
The Philosopher said:
Tony Shwartz….art of deal co-author….jew.
Necons….jewish.
Dan Senor and the locker room leak…jew.
Evan McMullin in Utah….funded by jew.
Mass media….jew.
The Philosopher said:
1% of the population, 90% of his enemies, and the rest of his enemies are brainwashed idiots that the laugh at privately with movies like Hidden Figures, tv shows like Bella and her Bulldog and the odious ‘Birth of a Nation’.
ISSSS TROLLING> MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE LOVE DARK TROLLING
Chiune Sugihara said:
Repealing Civil Rights legislation would adversely effect Jews, but also groups like Italians.
Prior to segregation there was limited contact between Anglos and Blacks, so the Whites had Meds as their ‘disliked race’ or whatever.
They reverted to the group most different them which they had contact with.
Xi is benefiting from our “globalism” while protectionist himself.
But he doesn’t see Jews as enabling this in the west.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.698833
He also is using it to strong-arm Trump. Obviously the Friedman appointment on Trump’s part is more than just “tokenism” or ‘manipulation through his high Social IQ’ if it is jeopardizing his primary policy ambitions.
1. There is no “3D Chess”.
2. There is no Atlantis
3. There is no El Dorado.
And yes, “Hidden Figures” is retarded….
The Philosopher said:
Movie called Hidden Figures 2016 tries to prove black female mathematicians saved the space programme.
The jews are the biggest trolls on the planet.
Irish Savant has a great review on his blog that Pumpy won’t let me post.
The Philosopher said:
“Consider the scene. It’s 1962, Michael Jackson is still a black boy, not a White woman and JFK had yet to be assassinated by LBJ and CIA. America has fallen behind the USSR in the space race and the President tells NASA to put a man on the moon. Pronto. But the complexity of the astrophysics has the scientists and engineers stumped. Even with the best of German rocket scientists they’re struggling. The astrophysicists of the Max Plank Institute and Ivy League colleges are not up to the job. The situation gets desperate. What can NASA do?
Well, there’s only one thing for it.
Try da ghetto.
And there they come across three Women Of Colour, Keisha, Le’shaniqua and Levondia, astrophysical geniuses one and all. As the dumb and dumbfounded White scientists look on in wonder the grrrllls whizz through the toughest and most complex calculations, the mission is saved and the President is happy. At which point the brainiacs are booted back to da ghetto by the ungrateful White debbils. We wuz kangs and all that…”
Now you might ask why I’m writing about this. After all it’s just another example of the Great Brainwashing Project that’s been in progress for more than fifty years. But it’s also an example of how our globalist overlords are losing touch. Because even the most brainwashed deluded White liberal (DWL) watching this is going to be struck by the jarring cognitive dissonance. The reality of their personal interactions with black women and their depiction in the film as astrophysical geeks will be enough to wreck their heads.
– The Irish Savant
GondwanaMan said:
Just saw the movie and I liked it.
The Philosopher said:
This is why most people consider these to be the dark ages.
MAGA
The Philosopher said:
Trump might need to have 4 terms like Roosevelt to clear out the stable.
The Philosopher said:
Hahahahahahaha
I can’t breathe.
To be fair, maybe I should watch it!!!
Astrofizzist. Suh!
Hahahahaha. What will ((they))) come up with next?
We’ve had black tudors, black Captain America, some say Black James Bond…the asians are genuinely baffled with this obsession ‘whites’ have…
Afro’s belle epoque.
Afrosapiens said:
If she doesn’t like Paris, she can stay in Japan, we don’t need her here.
But I understand that this video is rather celebrating Paris’s cultural diversity, it even mention the Japanese quarter.
So in short, Phil hasn’t understood anything as usual.
The Philosopher said:
Zion’s sick dream.
Afrosapiens said:
Native Parisians don’t mind it, provincials who move to Paris have a shock (I mean people from the deep countryside because big cities are diverse too) but most of them adjust quick.
The Philosopher said:
Le Pen is leading because:
(a) Afrosapiens has a 115IQ plus and his social analysis makes sense
(b) Reality is the opposite and without hate speech censorship laws on people’s personal social media, Le Pen would win a landslide
(c) the media and schools teach whites to kiss Zion’s ring
(d) Afrosapiens is wrong and delusional and talking his OWN FUCKING BOOK ALL THE TIME. NO I DONT WANT TO BUY KINSHASA PUTS ON SNAKE OIL.
Afrosapiens said:
Marine Le Pen makes ridiculous electoral scores in Paris and Ile-de-France, and foreigners don’t vote, minorities vote very little.
LAP said:
“Marine Le Pen makes ridiculous electoral scores in Paris and Ile-de-France, and foreigners don’t vote, minorities vote very little.”
Who would you like to be president of France ?
Afrosapiens said:
I haven’t made my choice. I’m a Christian Democrat so I like François Fillon’s moral values and Manuel Valls’ economic policies. I’d have liked Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet or Alain Juppé. Emmanuel Macron and François Bayrou are interesting too.
RaceRealist said:
What about Marine Le Pen bigot!? You don’t want a strong womyn as president!?
I’m joking.
Afrosapiens said:
I’d fuck her niece though
There is a rumor that she’s into black guys.
LAP said:
Did you voted Sarkozy in 2012 ?
Afrosapiens said:
Hell no…
The Philosopher said:
The Philosopher said:
Oh don’t mind me….
I’m just selling insurance.
Hahahahaha!!
The Philosopher said:
I caused that feel
The Philosopher said:
They don’t sell insurance.
Afrosapiens said:
Girls of my generation have Kim Kardashian and Kylie Jenner as role models, they naturally want to find their Tyga and Kanye West.
Deal with it.
The Philosopher said:
[this comment was redact by PP, Jan 21, 2017]
The Philosopher said:
Objectively, Kardashians are terrible role models.
BUT THATS THE POINT.
THEY WANT TO DESTROY.
THEY ARENT SELLING INSURANCE.
Afrosapiens said:
I sincerely hope that PP moderates your picture.
The Kardashians wouldn’t be famous if their lifestyle was not appealing to the audience.
Deal with it! said:
Girls of my generation have Kim Kardashian and Kylie Jenner as role models, they naturally want to find their Tyga and Kanye West.
Deal with it.
you’re trolling but you know that’s not true. White women still prefer white men on average.
Afrosapiens said:
Not really. Many white women have a fetish for black men, in France at least. It is true that people tend to mate in their ethnic and social background, but black men with high status have an almost unlimited potential.
The Philosopher said:
They pick the actors.
Kardashians daddy defendd OJ Simpson.
They pick the actors.
They pick the actors.
They pick the politicans.
They pick the central bankers.
They pick the professors.
They pick the judges.
They pick the generals.
They pick
Eygpt, Rome, The Duke of Muscovy, The Ottoman Sultan, Great Britain, Germania…they’ve done this all before.
The Philosopher said:
Lord Sydenham is right…if the Protocols were a deranged fake conspiracy based on a book in 1867…why does it predict eventual 20th century total media control?
He should have asked….why its also blueprint of classical historical jewish agitation.
That was the insight Friedrich Nietzsche gave us.
The Philosopher said:
There’s nobody in the fucking world that sees these ads and thinks.
I NEED TO BUY ME SOME INSURANCE.
Afrosapiens said:
“They pick the actors”
Kim Kardashian got famous with her sextape, which belongs to one of the most popular categories, I let you guess what this category is.
The Philosopher said:
My impression is that Afro is right that there are some white women that do indeed have a fetish and this is was rampant in the Obama years.
But Afro, whom you all by now know is a poster boy in cognitive dissonance and latent homosexuality doesn’t get that his success in anything in his life is a creation of ads like the above or academia presenting blacks as oppressed K selected men or indeed banning white music and culture.
His adoption, childhood, academic entry, job, social status as a Rare Pokemon, his elite gladhandling, insurance sales modelling and so on are social engineering.
If you destroy Zion’s mind control, Afro’s bodycount drops by 75%. And suddenly I AM THE SEXY TOUCH ME stuff is gone.
I guarantee it.
Same with the other black guys.
Blacks don’t have the cognitive ability to understand how it all works, being ADHD solipsists. They think they earn their welfare checks and Oscars.
Most Americans think blacks are 50% of the population in surveys even though they are 13%. Same in London anecdotally.
This is why I call blacks ‘Magic Negroes’. They are a myth.
Before Zion took over the media in the early 2000s and launched The Final Plan – the idea of Kim Kardashian being anything more than a carnival freak was absurd.
Just ask your parents…or grandparents and they will really be able to spot it.
Afro will deny the media/academia mind control rays have any influence of course – but it can start 9 wars simultaneously, convince people Russia elected Trump, hide race realism, turn philosophy/economics/psychology etc into sophist time wasters, destroy organised religion and make the jews the most powerful race on earth whom the congress bows to and gives 10 minute standing ovations.
He who controls knowledge, controls power.
Afrosapiens said:
Visit this site Phil.
The Philosopher said:
Kardashian’s show is staged and scripted.
Probability an Olympic white male athlete turns into a transgender harpy?
Run the numbers. Sth like 3/5000 in the history of the American Olympics Team.
Of course blacks can’t think quantitatively and see only face values.
Jews got their black man harpoon and slut-it-out in there along with their transgender weirdo crap in one show.
Now wait and watch. The next season will see them bash white racists as weak losers.
And promote understanding noodle armed white shitlibs as ‘the way’.
But they always will promote white men as weak losers, because Zion remembers the Holocaust so well and is so angry about it.
Deal with it! said:
Afro, don’t be so arrogant. It’s kind of a turn off when a guy thinks he’s god’s gift to women.
Honestly, I found it demeaning that you joked about me being “good enough” for a one night stand.
Afrosapiens said:
“Afro, don’t be so arrogant. It’s kind of a turn off when a guy thinks he’s god’s gift to women. ”
So women like it, but I exaggerate my arrogance here, I real life, my physique and personality speak for themselves.
“Honestly, I found it demeaning that you joked about me being “good enough” for a one night stand.”
Sorry, I never meant to hurt you.
The Philosopher said:
Just an observation, but I bet Afro was really weak on math.
I’d say anything involving trig or stats was racist to him.
Afrosapiens said:
I did reasonably well in maths but I’m not attracted to it.
I see the Kardashian’s social media followership, it speaks for itself. P0rnhub’s stats too
The Philosopher said:
Deal with it is wrong. Afro is god’s gift to closet homosexual photographers and Zion’s Parisian Utopia.
Afro was on the street in the video.
He’s the guy holding up his shirt asking people to touch him.
Japanese girl be like: “This nigga ain’t French”.
Strong cognitive dissonance by the way on the reaction to the Japanese girl. ‘Not Necessarily’ against third world paris.
“In the last few weeks during summer was an experience that was pretty enriching, I have the tendency to get lost quite often…
Last week I was privileged enough to go to Montmartre and it didn’t go exactly as I’d wanted…
What a shock!
All I knew about Paris was just wonderful cliché!
We learn pretty quickly that Paris is a multicultural mishmash with its different parts of town and their respective communities.”
The Philosopher said:
How can you be a lawyer and misinterpret that?
If you get a black lawyer or banker, ask for another. They have 15 IQ points less than their colleagues, and their colleagues will do the work in the end anyway.
pumpkinperson said:
I sincerely hope that PP moderates your picture.
Thanks for pointing it out. Phil you’ve already been repeatedly warned about this behavior: moderation
The Philosopher said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
The Philosopher said:
Read the ’causes’ section. No mention of immigrants and blacks.
How about less speculation…and just asking the tourists?
Hahahahaha.
They don’t want that answer. Like Afro doesn’t.
Afrosapiens said:
no need to mention blacked.c0m
Afrosapiens said:
lots of typos tonight, sorry.
The Philosopher said:
Its obvious you don’t think in a mathematical manner.
Add up the black porn terms in charts 1 and 2 (scale to 100) and add up the rest and divide to get the percentage. Compare to black % of woman population who need to jack off to something.
That explains the Southern tilt….all their homeboys be in de prison!
You also can’t think of what type of women the minority who watch porn are….let’s just say it’s not a great demographic and not a great inference sample.
Or how most of the searches are done by a small proportion of porn users….repeatedly.
The s population those search numbers sampled, probably were a very small sample of the larger U of hetosexual white women between blacks, porn users, and repeat customers.
But as I’ve said before, the Obama years saw a strong increase in mudsharking as Zion let loose under a black Prez so that’s no deniable. It’s actually a lot more than many think from my own understanding. Far more.
And now the alt-right gets its turn under Trump, like the evangelicals did under Reagan.
The Philosopher said:
You also don’t get the ‘relative to other users’ aspect. From Uk chart 3, BBD comes in 12th.
So the UK women love the lesbo stuff, but in a relative chart ebony appears to cover the south, relatively
Even though absolutely, other female favs absolutely are largely homogenous in rank order.
Learn the difference between ordinal, cardinal and nominal statistics in comparative mosaic inference.
Don’t look at the pretty colours.
The Philosopher said:
3 further research requests:
1.What percentage of porn users are (i) lonely black women (ii) and their % of the most compulsive users.
2. Growth of black porn search terms relative to pre Obama, indicating trend following.
3. Correlation between black search terms and black tv/movie/advertising casting increases in the past 10 years, indicating psychic saturation.
This will resolve it. Happy to agree with your dumb dumb black quant interpretation should you get these numbers.
Afrosapiens said:
“Add up the black porn terms in charts 1 and 2 (scale to 100) and add up the rest and divide to get the percentage. Compare to black % of woman population who need to jack off to something.”
Black and its equivalents are the second most searched category for women after lesbian. And other categories have black protagonists too.
“That explains the Southern tilt….all their homeboys be in de prison!”
England ? Ontario ? Michigan ?
Afrosapiens said:
“You also don’t get the ‘relative to other users’ aspect.”
I get it, but no other ethnic category except Japanese appears among the top searched.
The Philosopher said:
The other thing you might want to ask is….
What % of these porn user women are lesbians?
This would actually beef up your case.
I’m a fair guy.
Social science data analysis = valid sampling + computation + interpretation using general knowledge and social intelligence.
Afrosapiens said:
The Philosopher said:
Try to imagine their rank order tables in Michigan, Ontario and england, California, Scotland and North Dakota.
Blacks may well be 12th in Michigan and 14th in Minnesota cardinally and this throws up magic negro bat signals on the relative map.
Or on an absolute level with the US according to chart 1, 18-20% of the top 10 searches…or about 1-2% more than the black population of overall female internet users (who like internet users skew younger like the black population, I estimate at 17% based on prior demographic research).
This is the kind of stuff they ask in the McKinsey process. Although the charts are about more mundane topics.
This explains the south maybe.
Also think about exposure to blacks in the media. And use the data Time Magazine put out about favourite tv shows. Compare the states with most inferred magic negro exposure to the porn relative numbers.
Print out a map and colour it in with crayons if necessary in the same colours as pornhubs.
I think you’ll enjoy the colouring part more than the inferential analysis.
The Philosopher said:
The Japanese I don’t get.
American women get no exposure to them and they have only negative connotations for sexual market purposes.
It may go back to the type of woman that is using porn i.e not a very representative one.
But this exercise does remind me of my glory days.
Haha. Time to stop the basement trolling now.
The Philosopher said:
https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/
Also before I go crunch this.
Ask yourself, is the OKcupid sample s1, more externally valid than the Pornhub s2 to overall P.
There is some overlap I bet.
For Venn purposes s2 may be distinguished from s1 because it breaks out black women thankfully, making it more valid.
There is no doubt that the mudshark degenerate trend is there and blacks are very confident with a mulatto champion in the White House and jews calling white women racist for not sleeping with blacks.
The question is will it persist now that Zion is losing Kulterkampf?
The Time Magazine colouring book exercise may provide the answer.
Afrosapiens said:
Demographics clearly play a role in relative searches. But black categories are disproportionaly searched relative to the share of blacks in the general population.
Afrosapiens said:
Ebony is America’s top searched heterosexual category, it also tops the ranking in gay porn. America’s number one minority is the Hispanic but it appears nowhere in porn statistics.
Afrosapiens said:
Porn and dating are different things, women won’t date strangers who have the repuation of being rapists, violent goons, sexual beasts, unfaithful and stuff, they prefer watching them on their computer.
Pornhub worldwide searches
Black is the number one category in SS Africa, Afghanistan and some some Caribbean countries
This one is just for fun:
We can use gays as a proxy for straight women.
(gay visitors only)
Afrosapiens said:
wrong map.
Afrosapiens said:
They actually have worldwide stats about women
The Philosopher said:
Yeah but gay men are a very weak proxy. Gay men are far more debauched, sexually experimental and have roughly 10 times more partners. I think gay men are a better proxy for black women though, for the same testosterone reasons.
Ebony isn’t the top searched, put chart 1 into excel if your finger abacus is malfunctioning. As a proportion overall it’s about 20% as I said. Again, excel.
The point you raise about fantasy vs reality is good. But the number one fantasy of many women is being raped, according to the book ‘what women want’ that I read. So there is a big difference. Many women fantasise about other women as well, but they don’t.
The rape aspect is a good example of how Rollo Tomassi’s theories are true.
The book deals surprisingly well other female sexuality issues like inability to orgasm, black female fantasies (which is a fairly sad story of how testosterone dimorphism kills them in the sexual market, like it does to Asian men) and what parts of the male body excite them.
I recommend.
PS. I have/had black friends and am well aware of how easy it can be for them, but when you realise they are 2% of the UK population, the women with the fetish or the experimental nature are going to be much more in number than the proportion of decent looking, non homosexual youngish black men. I think that’s probably a similar phenomenon in your life.
Black men, are themselves fooled into thinking they are as proportional to whites as the media suggests.
France doesn’t collect race figures though.
And I expect the rightwing wave to eventually throw Kanye West against the rocks.
Kanye has had mental health problems recently I see.
Afrosapiens said:
Ebony is more popular in the US than in many African countries, it is the second most popular category there after lesbian, which makes it the top heterosexual category. It is also the most popular ethnic category worldwide.
Ebony is not solely watched by black visitors, blacks are 13% of the population in the US and age doesn’t affect the stats since the median age of pornhub viewers is about 40. Even if all blacks watched black porn, they’d only be 50% of the viewers, but I think they are only one third of black porn consumers.
Afrosapiens said:
South Africa pornhub stats:
Rwanda
judging from that, I’d say 80% of blacks are into black porn, so they might account for 50% of black porn viewers in the US.
Afrosapiens said:
Click to access Masturbation-Patterns-among-Young-Adults.pdf
According to the link above, blacks masturbate less than non-blacks (self-report). So if it’s true, it further decreases their share of porn viewers.
The Philosopher said:
(1) Category Logic
Yeah but type ‘step mom’, ‘milf’, ‘step sister’ and ‘teen’ into pornhub and see what you get.
Its mostly hetero sex or solo masturbation.
Which I have aha, *heard*.
Better to add the individual categories for more precise info.
Now if you want to count group sex as a category that rivals it as well in some places – threesome, gangbang, group etc.
(2) The Necromancer Social Engineering Evidence
I think the American much darker contrast with say, Canada or Brazil is strong evidence of Zion in your world black search graph.
I think you can admit that now.
Brazil’s black population is 3 times larger than America and its lighter…
Similarly Canada has similarish black pop to Australia, UK and New Zealand but is as dark as Brazil or Mali owing to American media mind control rays from the Cruel Sorcerer.
I think this data overall confirms my suspicion that your sex life matters a lot on what Jew paedophile executives are angry about before they go to bed in their coffins and suck blood from young boys dongs and how much Holocaust grievance or Zionist master race lit they’ve been imbibing from their cauldrons.
Let’s just say, this data is positive for my theory.
(3) Black female porn users
“Ebony is not solely watched by black visitors, blacks are 13% of the population in the US and age doesn’t affect the stats since the median age of pornhub viewers is about 40. Even if all blacks watched black porn, they’d only be 50% of the viewers, but I think they are only one third of black porn consumers.”
US females from age 18-55, % black is about 17-18%, look into the census.
The 20% of overall searches is of course, not all black. But this is a slight sleight of hand, because of course demographics does not equal proportionality, just tendency.
I assume though that black women are much more likely to look at black porn for a number of observational reasons I’ve seen, that you can figure out from your own life.
There is no doubt that mudsharking is more popular than ever in human history and the trend is upwards thanks to the work of our very beloved and extremely really like them so much gamma decrepit treacherous conniving lying evil spawns of satanism, agh, jewish minority.
I just thank god/kek that we have no jews in this country and consequently as pale as Ukraine. One of the few blessings in this world any nation can have is no locust people trying to abolish their nation.
Interesting little conversation though. And good data find.
PS
From my recollection, France has the largest black population in Europe according to Gallup polling @8-10% so that explains the darkish hue in Europe relative to say, Germany.
The Philosopher said:
This data makes me think the gay men should never be allowed to become parents.
I’m reminded of this
Orgies with the kids downstairs….
I think the Kinsey guys found out the average gay man has had 100+ partners in his lifetime, and that was based on pre-gay rights, open season sex data sampling.
Gay men are extremely aggressive these days.
As I’ve said, gay men, like black men, have a kind of social force field allowing them to come onto people like facehuggers without being beaten, exiled or lynched like they used to when things were sane or as happens in every non-Western culture including white countries in the slavic world.
When I was young, calling a gay man a faggot, or a guy who was weak, a faggot, was really common and to be blunt, serves a social purpose that is very important – tribal masculinity.
Afrosapiens said:
I doubt blacks are 10% of the population in France, the most commonly cited figure here is 5%.
France has been Afrophile since the early 20th century.
RaceRealist said:
It’s worse than that Philosopher.
28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: “Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308.”
https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
Afrosapiens said:
http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/6539-adult-population-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/573,869,36,868,867/68,69,67,12,70,66,71,2800/13517,13518
Blacks are only 12% of the US’s population, and an even smaller share among America’s regular masturbators.
Afrosapiens said:
This map is interesting too.
Afrosapiens said:
Interestingly, black is the most searched world among the 35-54 age group.
LAP said:
Why Phil comment was redacted ?
meLo said:
Those charts make a ton of sense. Philo’s right you have to take the sampling into consideration. The majority of girls who watch porn are already slutty/sexually deprived, the opposite is true for men. You can see this by the types of searches. Big dicks are usually associated with black men and women who want squirting orgasms, big dicks, and being eaten out tend have probably been promiscuous enough that they realize how much men cannot actually satisfy them. Women don’t want black men specifically they want masculine alphas, which blacks are the majority of. And women hate being neglected physically
Men who watch are probably just nerds which would explain the milf, step-relative videos. They are probably consistently surrounded by their mothers and sisters, being the virgins they are they have to release their sexual frustration in a non-taboo way.
The Philosopher said:
Ad agency is DDB Chicago.
Be interesting to hear their views on Trump, Israel and whether they would like their jewish daughters to marry Mumbongo.
The Philosopher said:
Ok I’m going away now to not think about evil.
Should I linger, the failed artist in me will come out.
The Philosopher said:
See into Hitler’s mind and the imagery he dwells on.
He was a good man, but had a very high sanctity barrier like myself which gave him an almost deranged view on countering the evil menace that destroyed Rome, Egypt, The Duke of Muscovy, The Sultan Ottoman, Great Britain and of course, Germania.
His images live on in my watercolour memory.
Gypsyman said:
Clearly you’re a strongly ethical man.
I have no clue why we get into as many arguments as we do – your analysis of me couldn’t be more opposite if it was sarcastic.
Speaking of watercolours, I suspect we share similar galleries.
The Philosopher said:
You wouldn’t know anything about ethics.
You get your ethics from the back of a cornflakes box.
Gypsyman said:
Your analysis of me is utterly opposite.
Thinking Mouse said:
The sanctity barrier is really true for him. But he didnt just hate jews, but wanted the german peoples to act as an enginge for the construction of an specimen in an environment with minimal distractions to reach ultimate discipline so that focus could be layed on his interpretation on schopenhauer and nietzsche (Wille zur Macht). He was also an collectivist in that he belived that collectives were nescessary to raise individuals with freedom. An wierd contradiction, but i dont belive in freedom, so I assume he was smart enough to interpret the word freedom into something that is congruent with the above. Namely being victorious darwinistically and working on creative output or rest, i would guess.
His philosophy is interesting and maybe even inspiring, but i think he ignores that many things in life, especially large collectives that have many indeterminate properties, are by probability immutable. And thus arbitrarily infuse magic in the form of “will” and “struggle” to make his belifes coherent. The quality of the german army was just very likely do lose against the Soviet industry. I think this also can be highlighted in that he needed people of conventionall intrests to run his beurocracy, i suspect that his ideal would die through the mechanism described above, inertia?
Thinking Mouse said:
Churchill also drew paintings, i dont think this metric works.
Bruno from Paris said:
Pumpkin is right ! Average height in the NBA is 6,7 that is 201 cm. It’s a height that is reached in america by 1 person out of 2 063 ! I’ve seen that people being taller , it could be 1 in 1000 nowdays (like Flynn effect) . So in terms of IQ , it would be an average of 150-155. Even Nobel Laureates aren’t that high on average. So it’s obvious that :
– height is the major factor
– basket has the most extreme selection capacity in every human activity. Because even if you imagine that only 1 in 100 people who is 201 cm can join the team, that’s selecting 1 in 100 000 people !
https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/
http://hiqnews.megafoundation.org/Definition_of_IQ‘.html
PS : if you take the number of american players out of NBA : 75% it must be easy to calculate exactly the “talent” and “height” factor. You take the average size, there are 2 M guys each year, that’s 1 000 who reach that level each year. Then if a NBA career is say 15 years, You have 15 000 people. Has you got 400 thousands players (30 teams of 12 + some replacement guys), that’s 300, it means the average guy has 1 chance in 100 to be selected : 1 in 1000 in height (among young people) and then 1 in 100 in the rest.
Now, looking at people that are much taller in the 1 in 100 000, that is 7 feet or 208 cm, it is 150 boys.
I dont have a list but i saw that historically, ouy of the 408 players who participated to the all star game, 29 were more than 7 feet. So it means that when you go from 201 cm to 208, you multiply by 7 your chances of being recruited, but you’re 100 less frequent material. So the model shoud explain why the average height for almost every team is 199-201, it s a function of talent*height.
I notive that there are 70% black people, and that on average they are less tall that white people. Also, i ve noticed that on average foreigners are taller that american. Black foreigners are a bit taller that white american and much more than black american (on average) and the tallest one are white foreigners. So the talent needed to be a basketball player must be more concentrated on black people that on white people.
I suspect that if there is only 1 asian , it s because they are borth shorter and have to a givent height less talent (it must be testosterone related) than white,and black …
With an average salary of 6,4M for NBA players, the attraction power is almost 100% of suited informed candidate.
RaceRealist said:
Til muscle fibers are meaningless. Fst free body mass is meaningless.
I’ll write a post on this tonight
RaceRealist said:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/sports/basketball/22score.html
Not even a basketball fan. I’m more of baseball fan. But heights are exaggerated in the NBA by a few inches.
GondwanaMan said:
What’s interesting is that, according to the Sport’s Gene, arm span matters even more than height in basketball (although they are strongly correlated). Which is probably why blacks dominate so much, why Yao Ming and JJ Reddick were the only players in the 2000s with arm spans shorter than their height, and why Dennis Rodman dominated so much at rebounding even though his actual height was only about 6’6″.
RaceRealist said:
Fiberr types matter. And blacks have less FFM. I need to buy that book.
Bruno from Paris said:
http://www.nba-allstar.com/players/lists/players-by-height.htm
Afrosapiens said:
Why don’t you have a gravatar, compatriote ?
Bruno from Paris said:
If there were a university, recruiting students worldwide on a mix of IQ, knowledge and reasearch publication, paying a team of 400 young professors from 25 to 45 , 6 million a year, but with extreme publications expectation and competition, it would be interesting to see what would be the average IQ. I suspect it would be like in basketball, 1 in 1 000 and 1 in 100 for the other factors (working habit, creativity, concentration, emotional quotient, chance etc. ).
Afrosapiens said:
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Deal with it! said:
Guys, stop arguing about the attractiveness of black men. I’ve never seen a more pointless argument.
Afrosapiens said:
Well, this blog discusses all aspects or racial differences, which is stupid too.
I think being black contributes a lot to my attractiveness. I owe my success with girls and in modelling to my harmonious African facial features, my skin color and the African morphology of my body.
I’ve only had one girlfriend who was a hardcore black fetishist, she was older than me, cheating on her (ultra rich) husband and I was her toyboy. I didn’t like it . And I hated it when I broke up and she replaced me with my Ghanaian alter-ego in only a couple of weeks.
And modelling is still a whitewashed industry in my opinion although the demand for black models is very high. But the standard remains the skinny tall Germanic appearance for reasons that have more to do with tradition than true preference.
The Philosopher said:
True preference is revealed when Afro looks into a mirror at himself and decides that he has the talent to sell insurance which is statistically invalid because he can’t count.
Afro can’t figure out modelling would have no blacks if jews were say, underneath the ocean.
Or…
There would be hardly any black hollywood non character actors.
A more interesting point I always see among black HBD deniers is how they square their sexual success/body morphology as being genetic with their low IQ and psychopathy…even though they are both sides of the same coin.
Or the barbaric state of mainly black countries.
Testosterone maybe?
The low SMV of their sisters and mothers should be a clue about the intrinsic aesthetics of ‘African features’ Afro is so fond of.
Afro has cognitive dissonance because he know HBD is fully true deep down, but is not truthful with himself to acknowledge the negative parts of the prophecy, because understandably, it’s an ego buster.
In this way, Afro is a kind of sophist, not capable of being a philosopher because he promotes an agenda, rather than an open understanding of our world.
Afro also forgets how easy black women are in Africa for white travellers. Haha. Or black women in general in Western nations which you could take to mean different preferences.
One thing my black friends do bitch about is how high quality black women leave the fold. This was fairly common though until AA blacks gained access to them in social circle game.
Afrosapiens said:
Don’t try to read people’s mind, you suck at it.
You used to think Mar$ha was your biggest fan, yet she called you a low IQ autist.
You define honesty as the fact of agreeing with you. You must be easy to fool.
And your comment is a brilliant example of foolishness.
Afrosapiens said:
Which picture do you prefer ?
or
The Philosopher said:
Yes this is enough exchange on Afro’s Waterloo.
I think my interpretation of the data above makes more sense.
If I’m right, the nationalist wave will sadly curtail Afro’s job prospects selling house insurance in his underwear holding fawning doe eyed white women to 98% white customers in the key 40-55 suburban family household demographic.
And he will go back to being an ordinary diversity lampshade in his law firm.
The Philosopher said:
THEY ARENT SELLING INSURANCE OR MOVIES OR NEWSPAPERS….THEY’RE SELLING A DIFFERENT WORLD.
The Philosopher said:
This is not bad by my standards…
Afrosapiens said:
“If I’m right, the nationalist wave will sadly curtail Afro’s job prospects selling house insurance in his underwear holding fawning doe eyed white women to 98% white customers in the key 40-55 suburban family household demographic.”
I shot for Abercrombie, Gillette, Axe, Ikea, some gym clubs and as an accompanying model for female brands including Etam underwear. My audience was young and diverse.
Afrosapiens said:
I also did Biactol, that was funny, modelling for anti-acne products when you never had acne.
Deal with it! said:
My ex looked like a male model. 6’1″, ripped. But he was white.
I’ve only dated white men.
Afrosapiens said:
“I’ve only dated white men.”
Because you’re only into whites or because you had more opportunities ?
Deal with it! said:
the latter I guess.
Afrosapiens said:
I’m engaged and faithful now. Back in the days, I’d have advised you to accept my one night stand proposal.
The Philosopher said:
You’ve been hitting on her for weeks now, and failing!
You can’t read people.
This is what happens when a latent homosexual runs game.
Pro Tip: Smiling is bad.
Afrosapiens said:
“Pro Tip: Smiling is bad.”
Not when you have that smile.
Afrosapiens said:
You’ll understand Deal’s mindset better when you translate the following sentence:
Fuis moi je te suis, suis moi je te fuis.
When you understand that , you won’t anymore go on insade tirades about Zion and Kinshasa when you think a girl turns you away. And you’ll finally have your first free sex.
The Philosopher said:
Sorry I meant why is this moderated?
pumpkinperson said:
The toilet comment
akarlin said:
As a big Oprah fan, surely you’re aware of this interview from 1988:
The Donald has had Presidential ambitions simmering in him for a long time.
pumpkinperson said:
Yes I posted on that before; pretty amazing bit of foreshadowing.
akarlin said:
Okay, must have forgotten about that. Great.
RaceRealist said:
It was planned. So great “foreshadowing”.
GondwanaMan said:
All hail Trump!
The Philosopher said:
Nothing annoys me more in this world than a jew saying Trump is ‘singling out muslims’.
This is a fucking laugh. And betrays the slimy sickening lies and slime these people will say to get world domination.
9 lebensraum ethnic cleansing/dictator henchman backing wars in the Middle East is gentile whites fault?
Just like Jews treatment of arabs in their own country – palestine is an international scandal that you can only appreciate not living in the West and seeing objective reporting.
The Philosopher said:
The UN voted 190-3 or something a few years ago on a non-binding resolution.
At some point you have to ask, will Zion use nuclear weapons?
I genuinely think Zion will use nuclear weapons before Pakistan and North Korea do.
And I suspect that will use it on nationalist whites if civil war breaks out.
And it will be cuckolded brainwashed/bribed whites nuking patriot whites.
The Philosopher said:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-01-20/summers-business-may-come-to-regret-enabling-trump-iy5m7748
They always think about the Holocaust. Listen to his hitler invocation at the end.
This man was the architect of (((Wall Street))) Deregulation and predation on the middle class.
No causal link at all.
RaceRealist said:
PP you should buy a copy of Erectus Walks Amongst Us (kooky ass multiregional hypothesis, but it’s chock full of informatuon and citations).
Click to access richard-d-fuerle-erectus-walks-amongst-us.pdf
Afrosapiens said:
I would appreciate that Mar$ha takes part in the debates because I’d like to see her IQ 170 at work.
For now, I am very skeptical about her claims. Like my good friend Phil said, we’re not seeing stars reading her contributions.
She says she has the power to swing the Dow by 800 points but says she’d be dead in a week if she actually does it. Using this logic, I can jump from the top of a skyscraper. If she were that smart, she could benefit from her amazing powers and be some kind of modern day Mata Hari.
According to Mar$ha, Santo Culto’s humor flies over my head. Well, if Apefugee, Congozapiens, eRRor and the likes become funny when your IQ is so high, I’ll be happy with my mediocre intellect. I’m not implying that Santo is not entertaining, he’s highly laughable, dumb as a rock and he no have self-awareness.
Mar$ha called Herculano-Houzel a Brazilian Bimbo, that was her contribution to the neuron count vs. EQ debate. I can also mention her unforgivable ignorance about my avatar especially when she claims to have a PhD in art history from Yale. Last thing: I’d like to have more info about the Nobel Prize recipient that she challenged in college
So I’m dying for her insights, not about sex with black men because she’s an expert but in the following posts.
The Philosopher said:
No need to be so humble Afro, you would be the resident expert about sex with black men.
That face!
But Mar$ha is the expert in closeted men.
Compared to her – I am how you say – autistic.
Afrosapiens said:
Well I know why many girls don’t come back once they go black. But I’ve not tried black men myself so Mar$ha makes a better expert.
RaceRealist said:
“So I’m dying for her insights, not about sex with black men because she’s an expert but in the following posts.”
Now that she has graced us with her presence, maybe we can get some actual thoughts on these things from her.
Afrosapiens said:
lol. Let’s wait. But I’m in a mood to forgive Mar$ha. I’m pretty sure we misunderstood each other.
Bruno from Paris said:
Afrosapiens, i was wondering what do models when they are above 35 and still need a revenue for a living ? I feel one have to prepare from day one to do an entire different job, except running an agency but that’s also a different job (commercial job, like running a real estate).
Afrosapiens said:
Most models do it as a side job, only top female models can work full time and retire in their 30s and make good money from their savings.
Male models can work well into their 40s but can seldom rely on this activity alone. Regular female models don’t last long once past age 25 unless they turn to porn.
The Philosopher said:
Can I be removed from the moderation sin bin?
pumpkinperson said:
That’s not gona happen for a while I’m afraid.
The Philosopher said:
I hope people can read Afro’s comments and see what they’re up against in the sexual market incidentally. If you’re not hitting the gym, you need to be.
They are extremely rapacious around women.
The early 20th century stereotypes about lustful black men are true.
It explains the 14:1 black on white v white on black rape statistics.
That’s why you can’t square the circle.
White men have been fighting with their hands tied behind their back by jews for years or worse, blindfolded into ignorant cuckoldry.
Its been open season at offices, shopping malls, cafes, gyms and so on.
Soft and hard psychopaths have no shame, no approach anxiety, nor impulse control.
Remember that when a black guy comes into your social circle, starts working with your wife or adds your girl on FB. It is never platonic.
They will pump anything. Because predation is a feature not a bug of Kinshasa.
Hence…..
Afrosapiens said:
Your insecurities are endearing, Phil. You know plastic surgery can make you look black or mulatto if it’s well done.
The Philosopher said:
Haha, but then I would be treated like a 14 year old special needs person for the rest of my life.
Afrosapiens said:
That sounds good now that you’re an old creep. We keep our youthful faces well into our 50s. And girls become addicted to the soft and smooth skin. Think twice Phil.
meLo said:
But blacks have dryer skin.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11976544
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1485761
They age faster too, but their thicker skin gives the appearance that they don’t.
Afrosapiens said:
I know it very well, I put hydrating cream on my whole body every day, twice in wintertime. Black skin is adapted to the humid tropics.
As for ageing, I don’t know what you’re talking about: black don’t crack.
meLo said:
“As for ageing, I don’t know what you’re talking about: black don’t crack.”
Blacks biologically age faster, they die faster. You have thicker skin so it gives you a younger appearance at older ages.
Afrosapiens said:
Source ? There are super-centenarian populations in the black Caribbean.
meLo said:
thicker skin:
https://www.quora.com/Do-some-people-have-significantly-denser-skin-than-others-Whats-the-benefit-in-terms-of-evolution
http://www.netwellness.org/question.cfm/31729.htm
Aging faster:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953614004511
“There are super-centenarian populations in the black Caribbean.”
I don’t doubt it. There is always outlying variation within biology, it’s how evolution works.
Afrosapiens said:
In fact, it is rather whites who have thinner skin because blacks and yellows both have thicker skin.
Your theory about blacks aging faster is bogus, yes African Americans age faster than white Americans, lower class people and blue collar workers age faster, it’s no news. But Africans have an impressive longevity once passed the peak of infant mortality and controlling for tropical diseases and poverty.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/world-health-review/nigeria-vs-united-states
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/world-health-review/jamaica-vs-united-states
meLo said:
“In fact, it is rather whites who have thinner skin because blacks and yellows both have thicker skin.”
That’s what I said.
LOL@ “yellows”
“But Africans have an impressive longevity once passed the peak of infant mortality and controlling for tropical diseases and poverty.”
Did you actually read the links you sent me? Even when corrected the discrepancy still persists. Interestingly jamacias actually having rising rates of obesity.
https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-8-133
It’s not that I disagree with you completely though. Africans have the most genetic diversity, theoretically you should have higher disease resistance and health in general.
Afrosapiens said:
“Did you actually read the links you sent me? Even when corrected the discrepancy still persists. Interestingly jamacias actually having rising rates of obesity.”
Of course I did, Jamaican adults have the same life expectancy as Americans, they even have longer life expectancy at very old age. And Jamaica is much poorer than the US.
If you look at Nigeria, you see a sharp increase past infant mortality and you notice that the leading death causes are mostly avoidable tropical or poverty diseases. And Nigerians have an impressive life expectancy in old age too.
Other clues are that menopause doesn’t happen earlier in black women, Africans have low rates of metabolic diseases, lower rates for most cancers too, genetic resistance to tropical diseases. I mean whites would fare far worse in Nigeria than Nigerians in Europe.
meLo said:
“Of course I did, Jamaican adults have the same life expectancy as Americans, they even have longer life expectancy at very old age And Jamaica is much poorer than the US.”
It also has a lower GDP than Nigeria, despite much better health conditions. You may have misunderstood what I was trying to tell you. Life expectancy is almost irrelevant, by birth the life expectancy of whites and Americans are higher than blacks and Jamaicans. What I mean is that africans tend to biologically age at faster rates, they mature quicker and their organs fail faster.
Looking at the graph(2020) You can see that America has a more of healthy individuals across all age groups.
I’ll concede that indeed, persons of african descent tend to be more numerous near the age of 100, but my links even acknowledge this. African- americans are better examples for a level playing field.
Why it converges I’m not sure.
http://www.theroot.com/black-may-not-crack-but-we-re-aging-faster-inside-1790898981/amp
https://psmag.com/new-evidence-that-blacks-are-aging-faster-than-whites-447de38667cc#.i9726sgra
“That’s exactly what the data shows. As study participants grew older, the gap between blacks’ and whites’ biological and chronological ages widened until they “were nearing old age, after which it began to converge,”
“Other clues are that menopause doesn’t happen earlier in black women,”
Yeah it does:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447734/
Stress seems to be the cause, as well as with the faster aging.
“I mean whites would fare far worse in Nigeria than Nigerians in Europe.’
I agree.
Afrosapiens said:
“It also has a lower GDP than Nigeria, despite much better health conditions.”
Lol, look at GDP per capita. Jamaicans are richer than Nigerians. Nigeria is about the 20th largest economy in the world, first in Africa but it is a poor country when you consider per capita income.
” What I mean is that africans tend to biologically age at faster rates, they mature quicker and their organs fail faster.”
Nope, menarche happens much later in Africa than in Europe.
Also, Africans have lower risks for all cancers combined, lower rates of alzheimers and dementia as well as lower rates of coronary heart disease.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/all-cancers/by-country/
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/alzheimers-dementia/by-country/
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/coronary-heart-disease/by-country/
The figures are age-standardized and they cover death rate from each condition, it tends to be higher at the same level of prevalence in poor countries with underdeveloped health infrastructure.
Age at menarche in Africa:
https://scholar.google.fr/scholar?q=age+at+menarche+Africa&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiU35j-i9zRAhUItRoKHYWTAn0QgQMIGDAA
My opinion about the convergence of survival rate in old age is that longevity is more due to genetic endowment whereas premature death is more likely caused by environmental factors.
Your link about menopause explores the variation of menopause onset within African Americans, not between blacks and whites. The link below is an interracial comparison:
http://www.jwatch.org/wh200807240000007/2008/07/24/age-menopause-differs-little-race-and-ethnicity
“Stress seems to be the cause, as well as with the faster aging.”
No, reread the link.
meLo said:
“but it is a poor country when you consider per capita income.”
Does that mean it has a higher potential for wealth?
“Also, Africans have lower risks for all cancers combined, lower rates of alzheimers and dementia as well as lower rates of coronary heart disease.”
Should we make a distinction between africans and african americans? the latter has higher rates of alzheimers, dementia and cancer. They’re equal to whites in heart disease:
https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/data/race.htm
Click to access ethnic-disparity_021016.pdf
This more or less undermines your links, which does not correct for within nation ethnicities. In fact they all seem independent of race and actually irrelevant to my main point. Disease resistance =/= Aging.
“Your link about menopause explores the variation of menopause onset within African Americans, not between blacks and whites. The link below is an interracial comparison:”
No,
“A prospective study of the determinants of age at menopause in 185 healthy US women found an earlier age at menopause for the African American women (n = 19) and also found that psychosocial stress was predictive of an earlier menopause among those women”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9006309
Can’t really access your link but I think found it somewhere else:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18359953
It doesn’t really substantiate anything you’re saying though. Unless, you know the rebuttal.
Afrosapiens said:
“Does that mean it has a higher potential for wealth?”
Well Nigeria is almost a hundred times more populated than Jamaica. Nigerians should be hundred times poorer for the two countries to have the same GDP.
“Should we make a distinction between africans and african americans?”
Of course, Africans are unmixed and they live in their ancestral evolutionary environments. African Americans live in an other kind of America compared to whites, environmental confounds affect their health outcomes as much as though they lived in another country.
“This more or less undermines your links, which does not correct for within nation ethnicities.”
Not at all, your links compare African Americans to white Americans, not Africans to Europeans. Comparing Nigeria to Ukraine is more telling.
“In fact they all seem independent of race and actually irrelevant to my main point. ”
That’s perfectly normal if you understand population genetics. Race is not so meaningless when it comes to health. Most disparities happen within populations of the same race. That’s why you see Korea at very high risk for some diseases while Japan has very low prevalence. You see Zimbabwe’s very high cancer rate whereas the rest of Africa is among the world’s less affected regions.
“Disease resistance =/= Aging.”
I chose these three specific examples because they are age related health issues, not infectious diseases or infant conditions.
My link about menopause said blacks and whites didn’t differe in age at menopause.
Data from Africa and other parts of the world:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6466582
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3285482/
“It doesn’t really substantiate anything you’re saying though”
Lol, I just showed you that your theory doesn’t fit international data.
RaceRealist said:
“Should we make a distinction between africans and african americans? the latter has higher rates of alzheimers, dementia and cancer. They’re equal to whites in heart disease:”
High blood pressure, obesity and diabetes are all signs for heart disease; blacks have a higher rate. Blacks have all three of these risk factors more than whites. So they have a higher chance of dying from it.
There is a small insignificant amount difference between the two, but blacks ever so slightly edge out whites.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4828242/
meLo said:
“Not at all, your links compare African Americans to white Americans, not Africans to Europeans. Comparing Nigeria to Ukraine is more telling.”
Where does this site get it’s information from? Cherry picking particular countries seems futile. I figured two populations in the same country would be a great comparison instead of two with completely different environmental backgrounds?
“My link about menopause said blacks and whites didn’t differe in age at menopause.
Data from Africa and other parts of the world:”
Your first link did show a difference but a tiny one and the second one actually reiterates my point.
“Lol, I just showed you that your theory doesn’t fit international data.”
First off, it’s not a theory it’s an empirical observation. Second, I wasn’t necessarily trying to fit it universally.
Afrosapiens said:
It’s written below the chart
World Rankings Calculations Are Age Adjusted Death Rates Per 100,000 Population.
Data Source: Published By WHO 2014
WHO Excludes Cause of Death Data For the following countries: Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Cook Islands, Dominica, Grenada, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Monaco, Nauru, Niue, Palau, Saint Kitts, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome, Seychelles, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu.
“Cherry picking particular countries seems futile. I figured two populations in the same country would be a great comparison instead of two with completely different environmental backgrounds?”
Sure, what I meant to say is that you need to compare indigenous populations in their ancestral environments. I used Nigeria as a representative of West Africa, and the Ukraine as a representative of eastern Europe (Russia is too huge and diverse)
Of course you always need to control for meaningful variables whenever you compare different populations. But the fact that Africans-Americans differe so much from Africans and White Americans in some health outcomes indicate that some environmental factors are involved since their environments differe from those of whites and Africans.
“Some studies have reported that African American59 and Latina58,60 women have natural menopause about 2 years earlier than white women. However, 1 small study in Nigeria reported the average age at menopause to be 52.8 years,80 over 1 year later than that generally reported for white women in industrialized nations. Mayan women, despite their high parity (see Reproductive History), have been reported to experience natural menopause fairly early, at about age 45.81 In contrast, Asian women tend to have similar age at menopause to Caucasian women,58,82 although Thai women have been reported to have a lower median age at menopause, at age 49.5 years, despite their high parity,83 and Filipino Malay women have been reported to have an earlier average age at natural menopause at 47 to 48 years.84”
They say that a study from Nigeria is in contradiction with a genetic explanation for the difference found in some studies.
“First off, it’s not a theory it’s an empirical observation.”
Huh ? You’re the only one who have empiracally observed that Africans aged faster.
“Second, I wasn’t necessarily trying to fit it universally.”
Evolutionary trends tend to be universal, you can’t create theories based on the US alone.
meLo said:
“Sure, what I meant to say is that you need to compare indigenous populations in their ancestral environments.”
Why though? Are you suggesting genes that are beneficial in one environment may be deleterious in the next. I forget what that’s called, mugabe talked a lot about it at one point. It also seems arbitrary, do first world living conditions actually represent an “ancestral environment”? are gene haven’t caught up with our lifestyles.
“But the fact that Africans-Americans differe so much from Africans and White Americans in some health outcomes indicate that some environmental factors are involved since their environments differe from those of whites and Africans.”
I agree that it must be environmental(maybe) but it still doesn’t explain the convergence, why would the heredity suddenly jump back up like that? Do blacks take care of their elderly more or something? Maybe the blacks that are affected die off, leaving only healthier individuals?
“differe”
is that a french thing too?
“They say that a study from Nigeria is in contradiction with a genetic explanation for the difference found in some studies.”
Ok?
“Huh ? You’re the only one who have empiracally observed that Africans aged faster.”
…No, I literally just showed you multiple studies indicating the opposite.
“Evolutionary trends tend to be universal”
Lol no they don’t. There are almost always exceptions, because that’s how biological variation works, and how speciation is propagated.
The Philosopher said:
The way we stop Detroit happening anywhere else is simple: Acknowledge HBD and blacks as the enemy.
Just like they already see us as the enemy, even at a subconscious level like the AA hires like Afro who’ve been coddled with money and Oscars all their lives in white guilt.
They still think: Genetic enemies.
Like the jews. Although the Jews are far far far more dangerous and distortive.
The Philosopher said:
I’m fairly cognisant that they’ve directed the media to pretend the economy is great to encourage ‘animal spirits’ and hope for a positive movement that way.
Actually if the economy is in reality Mcjobs, low pay and long hours – pretending the economy is great in the media is actually harmful because it encourages levered investment on shoddy foundations.
Hence, the subprime crash.
And it will happen again.
The role of the Jews in distortion must be studied also in the sexual market, because if you portray blacks as amazing, and they keep killing and beating women, you get
subprime Donald Trump.
The Illusion weaving works against them.
In this sense, Walrassian equilibria are somewhat figurative constraints on how much brainwashing one can do.
Or perhaps, total destruction of the West is the feature, not the bug.
RaceRealist said:
I wear a size 8 hat (well, wore); do I have a big head?
Afrosapiens said:
Hey guys, Santoculto has a blog
https://santoculto.wordpress.com/
It deserves a visit.
meLo said:
That really his? I wish I could read whatever language it is in lol
Afrosapiens said:
Yes it is his, that’s in Portuguese, it’s intelligible to me but I won’t comment or he’ll have my IP.
Me have self-awareness at least.
meLo said:
What languages do you know?
I wonder if Santo is actually coherent in his native tongue.
RaceRealist said:
Google translate is great. It’s 100 percent readable.
And if you dig around a bit, he has a new one on blogspot.
GondwanaMan said:
Santoculto scares me. I just got a new gay roommate and he scares me too.
RaceRealist said:
Screen your roommates like I do.
Afrosapiens said:
Phil, can you tell us what it was like to grow up with an intellectually disabled dad ?
The Philosopher said:
Yes I remember it well. One incident will stay with me forever.
One day as I was walking home from the village, I said to my dad – we have no fish. I cannot eat.
And my old man, his head bowed and eyes drooping from long term bouts of cholera and STDs said: Marcel, its time. You need to learn how to fish. We must go to the sea and fish. Bring your brother and sisters.
So 17 of us went patiently into the water that evening as the magnificent lights shone in Port Au Prince as the dusk settled. As the boat meandered out to sea, my stomach was burning with hunger. We had not had foreign aid KFC in three days, maybe more. The frenetic gunshots and random cries from the wharf soon gave way to a calmer conveyor belt of waves, seagulls, rusted trawlers churning by and the odd buzzsaw radio emanating from boats of other fisherman we passed.
I kept thinking – my father got money from the aid workers and what did he do with it? My mother always had rows with him and we never seemed to know. All we knew was the hunger. Eventually he would end the row by beating her in front of us. And in turn she would get angry and beat one of us.
I know her stomach burned too. But with anger.
As we drifted out that evening. We gained hope.
We would take our destiny into our own hands.
We started dancing and singing, and father smiled and hushed us for a surprise. He pointed to a boat some ways away. Did it carry fish?
“This is your future Marcel for you and your brother and sisters. They will take care of you. They will give you many KFC.”
“I don’t understand”
“The family needs money, I am too old to work.”
“But you are only 32!” my older sister Marie claimed. “You’re only 32!”
He proceeded to beat her in front of us with the oar.
When the boat finally came into view it was clear it was not a fisherman’s boat or even an old cargo ship, but some sort of riverboat. There was a white man on board waving. As we embarked up the shaky ramp to the deck, Captain Zinkowski greeted us. He had greasy hair and a kind of sharp nose that I couldn’t explain, but felt like he was a man I couldn’t trust.
“Welcome! Welcome, les enfants. You’re father says great things about you all. And he was right, you have soft skin, supple arms and rather addictive bodies . You will be of much use in your new homes.”
My older siblings started protesting, a few had to be restrained by the crew. Something was wrong. Where was father?
Eventually he lined us all up against the wall. By then my father gone back down and had started rowing slowly back to Port Au Prince. He sounded like he was cackling and I saw him light up and smoke a pipe. I had never seen him smoke crack before.
It was the last time I ever saw him.
Captain Trudeau came to me. “And you, what is your name?”
“Marcel”.
“Well Marcel, you look like you have a very pleasing disposition. Tell me, are you hungry?”
“Yes”.
“Well come with me to my private quarters, maybe we can help you find something”.
From that moment my life changed forever. For the next few months at sea I gradually lost touch with my brothers and sisters. I think there was an attempt to escape when my older sister and some of the other children tried to take the lifeboat. My bottom never felt so sore in those days. But eventually I got used to it. I had to.”
In the end I was sent to a very rich family in the Rhone Valley. The Captain became my lover, my father, my saviour but we’ve long since lost touch. I hope one day he will see me in the insurance advertisements and recognise me. Or perhaps he has moved on to save other children.
I never learned to fish that day.
I learned to be fished.
The Philosopher said:
The ending should read “I learned to be fisted”.
Afrosapiens said:
“The ending should read “I learned to be fisted”.”
Damn, you single-handedly killed the poetry… You can ever escape your daddy issues.
The Philosopher said:
No but I go back to Haiti every now and then to volunteer. I hope someday I will find him on one of these trips and ask him why he got rid of me.
I don’t blame his intellectual disability.
I blame systemic racism.
Afrosapiens said:
You know there are hurricanes and earthquakes in Haiti, your Philostomy bag retard father must be dead by now.
The Philosopher said:
“You know there are hurricanes and earthquakes in Haiti, your Philostomy bag retard father must be dead by now.”
HAHAHAHA.
Afrosapiens said:
It’s not funny, we must always respect our parents even if they have embarrassing intellectual disabilities. Their blood runs in our veins, never forget that Philostomy bag.
Deal with it! said:
Pumpkin, why isn’t Mugabe posting nowadays? Are you moderating him?
pumpkinperson said:
Pumpkin, why isn’t Mugabe posting nowadays? Are you moderating him?
You know I’m a celebrity when even my stalkers have stalkers
Gypsyman said:
http://www.jukebo.com/prince/music-clip,the-place-of-your-man,sursm.html
“And I said baby, don’t waste your time. I know, what’s on your mind…”
😀
Deal with it! said:
1. I’m not a stalker of Mugabe
2. Mugabe isn’t a stalker of Pumpkin Person.
3. You’re not a celebrity.
Gypsyman said:
PP isn’t a celebrity but…
I’m a star !
The Philosopher said:
PP has a stalker who has a stalker who has stalker.
Stalker cubed.
Afrosapiens said:
With a Colgate smile ?
Gypsyman said:
You’re not the only model on the blog…
Afrosapiens said:
I hope I ain’t ! It’d be sad if I were surrounded by ugly Anglos.
Gypsyman said:
At least one of us has a Colgate smile.
I learn from my people’s mistakes!
The Philosopher said:
I think I could be a model too, if I was a homosexual individual.
But I’d rather be an actor if I was to do that kind of thing.
I could be a musician. People say I have ze how do you say, rockstar look. But music has gone full retard over the past decade under Zion’s final push.
I do remember Cameron Diaz checked me out and smiled while the papparazzi were stalking her into the tube.
Diaz is a sloot. A total toerag, but from what I see a nice person. I think in another circumstance I could have actually closed.
And the other thing I could mention in my acting interview is that I can get into the minds of my character absoluto conceptuale.
I could be the next big method actor a la De Niro and Day Lewis. I’ll be the first person to play a black Haitian orphan with severe daddy issues seeing as black men can’t act anyway.
Afrosapiens said:
“I think I could be a model too, if I was a homosexual individual.”
I think you’d have fucked Cameron Diaz, if you looked less at black guys.
“But I’d rather be an actor if I was to do that kind of thing.”
Modelling is acting.
“I’ll be the first person to play a black Haitian orphan with severe daddy issues seeing as black men can’t act anyway.”
The blackface show era is over, but you’re still welcome to act as an idiot.
Afrosapiens said:
PP, can you unmoderate Phil ? I think he needs to open up about his imbecile father.
RaceRealist said:
comment redacted by PP, Jan 23, 2017
RaceRealist said:
And here is my article.
JS said:
And yet this doesn’t explain why Ashkenazim are smarter than East Asians based on IQ tests, despite sharing a similar diet with other Caucasoids. Perhaps, Jews aren’t all that smart, given their lack of social intelliegence, if you compare them to East Asians who are generally more polite, while Jews are known to be abrasive and arrogant.
JS said:
Again, a lot of this speculation and bunk with PP’s blog, but it’s fun to comment about it.
JS said:
And nutrition is just a stupid reason as to rule out why it doesn’t affect IQ — simply because Ashkenazi Jews eat poorly as a people.
RaceRealist said:
Well you have to remember that only like 47 percent of Israel is Ashkenazi. I’d like to see it untangled. If I have the time and energy one day I’ll see what I can do.
The Philosopher said:
Use proxies then – nobel prize wins, wealth %, number of politicians clapping + duration vs other foreign leaders, most cited academics/analysts in various academic fields, Treasury Secretaries/Fed Chairs/Supreme Court Judges.
They are defo smarter than asians JS.
You have to talk to asians and jews really and you’ll eventually see that asians are more rigid thinkers compared to jews, even if they are indeed of similar brainpower in some cases. The difference in verbal intelligence is very noticeable. Asians can’t think why things happen or can’t brainstorm or ‘hustle’ options to get out of tricky situations.
You can have very ‘draining’ conversations with jews, but asians talk about fluff a lot. They usually have a very innocent take on social matters which is why they can never make white people serfs like jews.
But there is a darkness in every asian man’s heart. The sexual market is as unkind to them as black women.
I was talking with Kai Peter Chang about this.
https://www.quora.com/profile/Kai-Peter-Chang
I mentioned the Testosterone Hierarchy to him and he agreed this was a massive factor. This was the halycon days of 2014 when the T aspect was not as researched as the IQ one.
I like to think I’ve fused and expanded a lot on HBD tenets. I think the T hierarchy is my baby. And I’m quite vocal about it being more important than IQ in terms of many things.
But Pumpkin certainly might want to say he brought the A-S spectrum to popular attention. Although I’ve bulked that one out since.
In an alternate universe I would be a fucking great psychiatrist.
pumpkinperson said:
But Pumpkin certainly might want to say he brought the A-S spectrum to popular attention.
And brought it to your attention. 🙂
pumpkinperson said:
Use proxies then – nobel prize wins, wealth %, number of politicians clapping + duration vs other foreign leaders, most cited academics/analysts in various academic fields, Treasury Secretaries/Fed Chairs/Supreme Court Judges.
There’s a lot more than just IQ involved in those achievements. There’s also group cohesion, drive to succeed, and marketing talent.
pumpkinperson said:
I think the T hierarchy is my baby.
WTF? Rushton was writing about black-white-Asian differences in testosterone since the 1990s; probably the 80s.
JS said:
American Jews do not eat well.
Israeli Ashkenazim eat better, many of them have adapted to a Mediterranean/Middle Eastern diet.
RaceRealist said:
Philospher most of those things you named are due to nepotism. Nobel ‘Prizes’ are a joke.
What is the testosterone difference between whites and Asians? It’s between 2.5 and 4.9 percent higher for blacks over whites.
RaceRealist said:
Also JS, Jews are worse off spatially and math is part of spatial intelligence. Hmmm I wonder…
JS said:
I’m anti-Jew as in people give them too much credit for what they’re worth. Just because they dug themselves a hole into America from the Old Continent, and were able to screw the dumb proles and profit from them, doesn’t mean they are the most powerful or the most talented people in the world.
marshamurphy1 said:
The sociopathic philosopher is trying to steal credit for Pumpkin’s brilliant theory that blacks and East Asians are at opposite extremes of an autistic-schizophrenic continuum.
Pumpkin not only popularized the theory, he created it:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2015/02/24/race-autism-schizophrenia/
but since Philosopher has schizophrenic delusions of grandeur, he’s convinced himself it was his brilliant insight.
You’re not worthy of shining pumpkin’s shoes you psychotic immoral piece of shit.
It’s Pumpkin who would make the great psychiatrist, Philosopher, not you.
Over the years I’ve been to every therapist in Manhattan and none of them have helped me as much as Pumpkin has.
pumpkinperson said:
Thanks but I can defend myself. 🙂 We’ve talked about this before. I’m sure if I hadn’t thought of it, someone else would have eventually or maybe already did. It’s kind of common sense if you believe in HBD.
JS said:
Enough of the talk Marsha…your country is now the Neo-Fallen Rome:
Just as the Muslims shook Rome — they will do the same with America.
But these are the real Muslims of the New World:
Latin America is the 2nd coming of Mohammad in Spanish.
RaceRealist said:
“WTF? Rushton was writing about black-white-Asian differences in testosterone since the 1990s; probably the 80s.”
Are there figures on East Asian testosterone? I saw an extensive analysis showing that they had higher levels iirc.
See here:
JS said:
Rushton would be the New World Herodotus, given the fact that Canadians are more intellectual than Americans, hence, they are the Greeks of the New World. Rushton is a race categorialist like Herodotus — an ancient HBDer.
pumpkinperson said:
Are there figures on East Asian testosterone? I saw an extensive analysis showing that they had higher levels iirc.
Rushton provided mostly indirect evidence, such as East Asians have lightest pituitary glands and low rates of prostate cancer in the U.S. etc
JIMMY said:
The claim that jews have higher IQs is being used everywhere i go on the net to justify Jew domination of the west.
lets take a look at the numbers:
White-Americans = 197.2 million @ 100 IQ = 4.5 million @130 IQ
jew-Americans = 5.4 million @ 110 IQ = 491,000 @ 130 IQ
for every 1 Jew with a 130 IQ there are 9 whites with a 130 IQ
and that’s with silly IQ test items like vocabulary being accepted, even though it has no biological basis.
the idea that they should dominate America because of IQ is laughable.
No one but a fanatical HBD cultist would ever entertain such a crazy idea.
HBDers are the useful idiots of the right along with evangelicals.
When i see the level of stupidity that these people unashamedly display, i am so glad i left the U.S .
JS said:
Useful idiots in America also think Anglo Prole Diploma Mills are valuable, when in fact they are not.
How is McGill University better than the Universite de Montréal?
JS said:
Weren’t you the guy who said that the Jews are the most domineering group in the world? They own America. As if owning the largest repository of waste matter is of any significance.
JIMMY said:
” Weren’t you the guy who said that the Jews are the most domineering group in the world? They own America”
my post was not denying that they rule America. My post was refuting the claim that
they rule us because they are smarter. (9 White 130 IQ for ever 1 jew 130 IQ)
the argument i hear now from the HBDers (crypto-jews) is that we need to suck it up an accept that the superior group is ruling us.
Jew rule is simply what happens when you have a clash between individualism and tribalism .
ethno-nationalist china is ruled by the chinese, while the individualist West is ruled by the the Untermenschen
the white race is morally, intellectually and aesthetically superior, but we are just too nice and it will be our niceness that ends us.
JS said:
I have very little faith in America, given its large contingent of White trash, and they’re now celebrating their victory with Trump, not fully understanding that he’s Pro-Israel and Pro-Jewish. But can you blame Trump for having Jewish ties? This is what happens when American Whites mismanaged their money and ask Jewish bankers to bail them out. I think the guy is broke.
The Philosopher said:
Huzz Huzz Huzz
Is dyslexia an american female phenomenon? I never said pumpkin didn’t introduce, darling. Read the **facts** darling.
Let’s be honest, autist high IQs are a dime a dozen. But schiz high IQ is super in the duper Jamaican bobsled team special. And it takes that kind of mind to tell you all, tell you all like Lazarus from the dead.
My other contribution may have been covered by Jensen in the 1970s sure. But I was genuinely not aware of that when I first figured it out and ah, now.
Did Jensen draw a settled agrarian society civilisation low t link?
You have to remember, somebody discovering this with Zion’s programming growing up in the 1990s vs Jensen who grew up in the 1950s or 1940s is a qualitatively different thing. And he is an academic psychologist with a much more specialised network and data bank.
I did it with my intuitive magical powers that are totally devoid of reason because slow people can’t understand it enough to confer it their much needed legitimacy.
To be fair I’d put money on various basketball, football and wrestling coaches having figured it out long before Jensen even.
Actually, I think you’ll realise people intuitively were somewhat aware of it even 150 years ago – hence Africa as the tough slave labour pool.
Most of our education in this world controlled by (((them))) is unlearning.
I’m serious. Homeschooled children have more education by virtue of the fact that simply trust their eyes and ears more and aren’t corrupted in ‘reason’.
Or should I say ‘moral reason’.
JS said:
High IQ Autists = East Asians, ie Bill Gates as the quintessential autistic sociopath, but not very remarkable, with low verbal IQ.
High IQ Schizo = The late Steve Jobs of Apple, was a great speaker/salesman and also a musician
JS said:
And Steve Jobs was part Levantine, so that made him susceptible to schizoid tendencies. He probably inherited his high IQ from his mom, who was German. And he was a polymath in a sense, typical of Middle Eastern geniuses of the past.
Afrosapiens said:
Interesting stats about East Asians.
Not so surprising despite their tiny appearance.
Japan has a freaky sexual culture, they even have rape video games. Every respectable and rich Chinaman is a de facto polygamist with concubines in the household. East Asia also has an unequaled martial art culture.
Now, what causes testosterone to differ ? Is it genetics or does the environment play a role too ?
GondwanaMan said:
Testosterone is overrated; it’s only one of many hormones that determines male-specific traits. Stop harping on “testosterone” like it’s some brilliant explanatory variable of human behavior.
pumpkinperson said:
Testosterone is overrated; it’s only one of many hormones that determines male-specific traits. Stop harping on “testosterone” like it’s some brilliant explanatory variable of human behavior.
Best comment of 2017
GondwanaMan said:
Too early to say it’s the best comment of 2017. But the Philosopher’s obsession with T is a lil’ over-the-top.
T-levels fluctuate significantly over the course of one’s lifetime and even over the course of a day, due to health issues and environmental circumstances. In contrast, most other human characteristics stay fairly stable. So it seems logical to assume that T-levels are only a very small piece of the human behavior puzzle…
RaceRealist said:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-testosterone-alone-doesnt-cause-violence/
“T-levels fluctuate significantly over the course of one’s lifetime and even over the course of a day, due to health issues and environmental circumstances. In contrast, most other human characteristics stay fairly stable. So it seems logical to assume that T-levels are only a very small piece of the human behavior puzzle…”
Someone gets it here!
This is physiology 101.
RaceRealist said:
“Rushton provided mostly indirect evidence, such as East Asians have lightest pituitary glands and low rates of prostate cancer in the U.S. etc”
Well, in blacks and whites, testosterone is not the cause for higher prostate cancer in black Americans.
I don’t recall seeing any concrete numbers from Rushton. I do see individual studies on different ethnies, ie Swedes and another Asian ethny. But Emuses’ article is extensive. People complain about age not being controlled for, but the dataset is damn huge so it’s a huge task.
“Now, what causes testosterone to differ ? Is it genetics or does the environment play a role too ?”
Something I need to further look into. Intuitively, I believe it’s environment. I’ll think more about this and get back to you.
pumpkinperson said:
Well, in blacks and whites, testosterone is not the cause for higher prostate cancer in black Americans.
Yes it is. Your ego just can’t handle the fact that blacks are more macho than whites so you’re using studies of older veterans where testosterone has declined. In the peak age group (college students) blacks have been found to have much, much, MUCH more testosterone than whites
pumpkinperson said:
And no it’s not environmental.
RaceRealist said:
“Your ego just can’t handle the fact that blacks are more macho than whites so you’re using studies of older veterans where testosterone has declined.”
Lol man. The Eysenck study (I think that’s what it is) is what Rushton cited showing a 3 percent difference. I cite that study, but it’s not the crux of my argument.
“In the peak age group (college students) blacks have been found to have much, much, MUCH more testosterone than whites”
With a robust n=50.
Read:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4327897/
And get back to me. I’m sure you remember mine and Sophic Drippins’ conversation on this matter.
And again, that Ross study was on 50 people. Moreover, other studies show no testsoterone difference with Mexicans taking the top spot.
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2007-0028
You can continue citing a 20 year old book all the while new things come out refuting what was written in it in the modern day.
RaceRealist said:
“And no it’s not environmental.”
What do you really know about testosterone and how it interacts with environment and diet?
RaceRealist said:
Also, Emuses’ data shows the complete opposite from what Rushton said. How do you reoncile this? He also has extensive responses to criticisms he has gotten.
Afrosapiens said:
RR is right
Click to access ethnic-testosterone1.pdf
Detailed data with mean ages of the samples.
pumpkinperson said:
Detailed data with mean ages of the samples
I could see only two studies in that summary that compared black and white men under 30: Ross et al (1992) and Ross et al (1986). In the first study black men had 11% more testosterone and in the second one they had 19% more, which averages out to a 15% difference. It seems racial differences in testosterone decline with age which makes sense from an evolutionary perspective, because r/K reproductive strategies operate during the prime of life when folks are most sexually potent.
pumpkinperson said:
And the person who created that table seems to have a chip on his shoulder because he thinks Rushton was calling East Asians feminine. But being low T doesn’t make you feminine; estrogen makes you feminine.
RaceRealist said:
Afro, yep. I was averse to it when I first came across it. Then I realized I could not explain it away. You can cute singular studies all you want. What does that mean to a dataset as robust as this?
Why PP keeps citing a 30 year old study with a small n boggles my mind. Even after I showed that the black white testosterone difference is 2.5 to 4.9 percent favoring blacks, which is not statistically significant and does not explain higher rates of prostate cancer.
Sorry Rushton.
RaceRealist said:
Also Afrosapiens. I get alerts every time Herculano-Houzel gets cites. She gets at least 4 to 5 every few days. Just got 5 more alerts just now.
RaceRealist said:
“I could see only two studies in that summary that compared black and white men under 30: Ross et al (1992) and Ross et al (1986).”
Holy shit dude. Did you not read Richard et al 2014? Why do you keep going back to he same old studies with such a small n? And the free testosterone matters. In Ross 1986 it was 13 percent. But. As I keep saying. Richard et al 2014 showed its 2.5 to 4.9 percent higher, favoring blacks and is not the cause for racial differences in prostate cancer.
Face the facts my friend. The testosterone differences just are not that great between blacks and whites. Sorry, but it’s the truth.
pumpkinperson said:
Holy shit dude. Did you not read Richard et al 2014?
Learn to read dude. Richards et al 2104 aggregated across all ages; I’m talking specifically men under 30, since that’s the age group most relevant to evolved reproduction strategies.
RaceRealist said:
And if you want to just cite singular studies, look at Rohrmann et al 2007 as well.
Also look at Ross et al 1992 for the Japanese. They had higher levels than Europeans. But, again, n equals 50. Easy Asians don’t have higher rates of prostate cancer than Europeans.
Keep citing 30 year old studies without commenting on Richard et al 2014. That makes you look very intellectually honest.
pumpkinperson said:
Also look at Ross et al 1992 for the Japanese. They had higher levels than Europeans. But, again, n equals 50. Easy Asians don’t have higher rates of prostate cancer than Europeans.
You can’t necessarily compare East Asians in one study with whites in another because T might not have been measured the same way in both. Of course Rushton often did the same thing for various traits, but it’s risky.
RaceRealist said:
these sizes of differences would equate to black men having a 3.0–5.8% (unadjusted), 2.5–4.9% (age-adjusted) and 3.5–6.8% (multivariable-adjusted) higher free testosterone levels than white men.
K.
You say “my ego can’t handle the fact” that blacks are more ‘macho’ than I am due to testosterone. Not at all! I care about truth. I don’t care if something shows this or that. I want the truth. Sans ideology. Your ego can’t handle the fact that Rushton cited studies with a small n, as well as the fact that in the year #2017 we have new data that refutes Rushton’s assertions.
Your ego can’t handle the fact hat Rushton was wrong here. Testosterone is not the cause for the prostate cancer gap.
Afrosapiens said:
Damn PP, you’re so dishonest. You’re not even mentioning the young samples of Europeans and Asians that score higher than the young blacks, neither do you mention the older non-black samples that score higher than young blacks.
It’s impressive how confirmation bias distorts reality.
pumpkinperson said:
Damn PP, you’re so dishonest. You’re not even mentioning the young samples of Europeans and Asians that score higher than the young blacks, neither do you mention the older non-black samples that score higher than young blacks.
You’re comparing different studies using different methods. If you a find a case where young whites or young Asians surpass blacks WITHIN THE SAME study, then that’s notable. Otherwise it could just be methodological differences.
Afrosapiens said:
Whatever ! You never ask as much methodological rigor when it comes to Lynn’s BS worldwide IQs. East Asians have more testosterone, whites have less, blacks are in the middle, that’s the big picture.
pumpkinperson said:
Whatever ! You never ask as much methodological rigor when it comes to Lynn’s BS worldwide IQs
True, but we’re all more skeptical about data that’s counter-intuitive.
RaceRealist said:
“You can’t necessarily compare East Asians in one study with whites in another because T might not have been measured the same way in both. Of course Rushton often did the same thing for various traits, but it’s risky.”
Ross et al 1992 had blacks, Japanese and whites. Japanese had higher levels of testosterone in the study then whites. Where are their higher levels of prostate cancer? Almost as if it has to do with diet and other environmental factors, among lower levels of vitamin D…. Genetics does not explain everything and believing it does makes you an ideologue.
Vitamin D is a steroid hormone.
http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/otherendo/vitamind.html
Low vitamin D linked to aggressive prostate cancer.
http://www.harvardprostateknowledge.org/low-vitamin-d-tied-aggressive-prostate-cancer
Race and geography should inform vitamin D intake.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/750013
Blacks have lower levels of vitamin D than Whites.
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/136/4/1126.full
Black Americans have higher rates of rickets, which low vitamin D is a cause of.
http://center4research.org/child-teen-health/infants-and-breast-feeding/breastfeeding-and-rickets/
This is my field buddy. I’m sure I know more than you here.
pumpkinperson said:
Ross et al 1992 had blacks, Japanese and whites. Japanese had higher levels of testosterone in the study then whites.
You got a point there. However Freeman (1934) found blacks had heavier hypophysis than whites who had heavier hypophysis than East Asians
RaceRealist said:
I am glad you stopped saying that blacks are stronger than Whites though. That was a ridiculous statement.
Afrosapiens said:
One other thing you don’t mention is the very high rate of prostate cancer in Scandinavia and Baltic countries.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/prostate-cancer/by-country/
pumpkinperson said:
You have to look at the totality of the data, not just cherry pick a few countries
Afrosapiens said:
Lol, you’re the last one among the mentally able persons on this blog from which I can be taught a lesson in objectivity and data selection.
RaceRealist said:
Nice find Afrosapiens. This is like when the alternative hypothesis made a shitty ass video saying that Asians are less sensitive to carbs than Europeans so that’s why they have lower levels of obesity. I decimated those claims.
People’s ignorance is shocking when they think they know something. But people should stick to what they’re good at. It’s a good hypothesis but it falls flat on its face when confronted with actual data. They didn’t refute Gary Taubes. Hahaha. Why people talk about dieting and nutrition when they’re ignorant about it is beyond me.
RaceRealist said:
Analysis of 639 tumor samples (270 black, 369 white), showed that 95 genes were overexpressed involving prostate cancer from blacks relative to whites and 132 were overexpressed in whites relative to Asians.
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/22/5/891.full
Maybe try looking at genes and how those genes interact with the environment and diet to cause the differences in prostate cancer.
Further, East Asia is quickly coming to our garbage Western diet. I predict prostate cancer to be on the rise there soon.
What do you know?
Rates of prostate cancer are increasing in East Asia.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214388215000235
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264433343_Prostate_cancer_in_East_Asia_Evolving_trend_over_the_last_decade
Exposure to westernized diet and life style and improvement in health care in combination contribute substantially to the increasing epidemic in this region.
Sorry Rushton. You were wrong here. You are wrong as well PP. Prostate cancer can largely be explained by environmental factors.
pumpkinperson said:
Analysis of 639 tumor samples (270 black, 369 white), showed that 95 genes were overexpressed involving prostate cancer from blacks relative to whites and 132 were overexpressed in whites relative to Asians.
How do you know those weren’t genes related to testosterone.
Further, East Asia is quickly coming to our garbage Western diet. I predict prostate cancer to be on the rise there soon.
Even within the U.S. Asians have lower prostate cancer rates:
For decades, African-American men have had the highest prostate cancer incidence rate of any raciallethnic group in the world. At 261.9 new cases per 100,000 in 1993, their rate is two-thirds higher than whites and more than twice as high as rates for Asian-Americans…Most theories on the origins of prostate cancer are based on the idea that male hormones, or androgens, are involved—in particular, testosterone and its metabolic product dihydrotestosterone. In the prostate, dihydrotestosterone is the principal factor driving cell proliferation, the common denominator in most, if not all, cancers, experts said…. The evidence implies that cumulative exposure to androgen may be important in the development of prostate cancer, suggesting that the higher incidence rates among blacks may result from larger or longer exposures to it. Much of the current research is looking for genetic and environmental factors that act or interact to alter androgen exposure over a man’s lifetime…African-American men may be exposed to higher levels of testosterone, literally from the start, because of dietrelated hormonal influences, according to Ronald K. Ross, M.D., of the University of Southern California1 Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center in Los Angeles. In a study of early pregnancy, Ross found that testosterone levels were 50% higher in African- American women than in white women.
https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article/89/3/188/2526672/Why-Do-African-American-Men-Suffer-More-Prostate
RaceRealist said:
You saying it’s not environmental is hilarious! Because that shows your ignorance on the subject.
Hypertension is correlated with prostate cancer. Blacks have higher rates of hypertension (high blood pressure).
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/HighBloodPressure/UnderstandYourRiskforHighBloodPressure/High-Blood-Pressure-and-African-Americans_UCM_301832_Article.jsp
http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/38/6/1349.short
Obesity further exacerbates the problem. Blacks males are more likely to be obese (though barely, which is where the other environmental factors come in).
Inflammation also exacerbates prostate cancer. Blacks have higher levels of inflammation.
Diet leads to prostate cancer.
Men suffering from two or more health problems linked to metabolic syndrome are more likely to get prostate cancer.
http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20140520/diet-lifestyle-affect-prostate-cancer-risk-studies-find
Blacks are more likely to have metabolic syndrome.
If you want to continue to live in fantasy land where Rushton was always right and never wrong and where studies with n equals 50 mean something, that’s up to you. But reality is different.
pumpkinperson said:
Of course prostate cancer has a large environmental component, but it’s just a rough proxy for testosterone and I believe the black > white testosterone difference has a genetic component.
RaceRealist said:
“Freeman (1934) found blacks had heavier hypophysis than whites who had heavier hypophysis than East Asians”
Source? Has it been replicated? How many samples? Any recent studies from this century on this?
Heavier. Ok? Let’s say it’s true. Does it produce more testosterone? Were there any ways to know whether or not it produced more testosterone? Doubtful. Even then it’s an 83 year old study. Show me a replication.
You’re strolling into Gould territory citing old ass studies.
pumpkinperson said:
I didn’t realize scientific findings had expiry dates.
RaceRealist said:
Sooooo…. Where is the link to the paper?
They don’t have expiration dates, yet Jensen blasters Gould for using old references. Hmmm… Rushton also used the famed French Army Surgeon. I guess studies from the 19th and 20th century have meaning to today.
That is also implying that the environment is the same along with diet and a whole slew of other factors. You know damn well that is wrong. You’re comparing people 80 years apart, as if the environment is exactly the same along with other gene X environment interactions.
RaceRealist said:
You talk about expiration dates, yet was this replicated? I’m sure I don’t need to explain the scientific method to you. And yes, asking for a study from this century does make sense as we are talking about current environment, not whatever environment was seen in that study. How big was the n for the races? Link the study please.
RaceRealist said:
“I believe the black > white testosterone difference has a genetic component.”
That’s you’re choice to believe it. You’d be wrong though. I’ve shown testosterone differences do not account for the prostate cancer rate. It’s that simple.
You can believe old and antiquated studies. Diet explains a large part of the variance in prostate cancer between races.
By the way, who the hell cares if Emuse “had a chip on his shoulder” about Rushton? Let’s say he does. What does it mean? You’re a Rushton cheerleader, so what does that say about what you say and cite in comparison to Emuse’s data set?
pumpkinperson said:
That’s you’re choice to believe it. You’d be wrong though. I’ve shown testosterone differences do not account for the prostate cancer rate. It’s that simple.
So the 15% racial gap in testosterone in young men has no effect on prostate cancer rates in the U.S.? I’m not saying it explains all of it, or even most of it, but I bet it explains some of it.
RaceRealist said:
Young men? Show me a more robust sample. Moreover prostate cancer doesn’t become prevalent until after age 40.
Men 50 and older have the greatest risk.
https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/publication/prostate-problems
It affects men in their 40s and 50s. You may then say “But they had higher levels of free testosterone which later in life lead to higher rates of prostate cancer!” Show me a more robust sample size then n equals 50. Richard et al 2014 controlled for age. Testosterone does not explain the gap. It’s not largely genetic. It’s largely environmental. I’ve written at length on diet differences between races. Other further environmental factors explain the rest along with the gene expression. But it is not testosterone.
RaceRealist said:
“How do you know those weren’t genes related to testosterone.”
1) Prove it.
2) Testosterone isn’t a casual factor for the 89 millionth time.
“The evidence implies that cumulative exposure to androgen may be important in the development of prostate cancer, suggesting that the higher incidence rates among blacks may result from larger or longer exposures to it.”
I know. I read this. How big was the n? How many black women and white women?
“In a study of early pregnancy, Ross found that testosterone levels were 50% higher in African- American women than in white women.”
How big was the sample? What was their diet? Did they have any thing wrong with them? 50 percent higher testosterone in the womb? Has. This. Been. Replicated? How. Big. Was. The. N?
And then “in a follow up study” blah blah blah muh n equals 50. So I can only assume that the n was small. You need to show how many women were in that sample. And yes it does matter. It’s be like me making a claim that blacks scored 50 percent higher than Whites on an IQ test, but we don’t know anything about the study.
Lol.
pumpkinperson said:
So now you think you know more than cancer researchers about their own field?
RaceRealist said:
Hahaha. They are simple questions. You’re just taking what it says and saying I “think I know more about their own field” but what I brought up are legitimate questions. You’re just handwaving my questions away. Show a bit more intellectual honesty than that please.
If I said to you that blacks scored 50 percent higher than Whites on an IQ test and that’s all I told you, what would you say? Would you want to know more? I know I would.
The questions I asked are most definitely important. Can you answer them? Yes or no?
pumpkinperson said:
It was good enough to convince experts in the field. The onus is on you to prove them wrong.
RaceRealist said:
The onus is on you to answer the questions I asked you. You cited an article. You quoted something that showed that black women had 50 percent higher resolution than white women in early pregnancy. Are the questions I’m asking not important? Yes or no. Can you answer them? Yes or no. It’s simple.
“good enough to convince experts in the field”
Appeal to authority.
Answer my questions.
pumpkinperson said:
No I’m not doing your homework for you. I cited a source showing the experts in the field agree with me and not you. If you don’t like it, you explain why they’re wrong. I’m not the one who’s challenging mainstream science: You are.
RaceRealist said:
You are making an appeal to authority. I’ve cited 6 trillion links to back my assertion. What I’m saying is sound. It’s not my homework, it is yours. You are citing the papers, I asked for information that was not provided, and you need to provide it, it’s not my homework it is yours. Dude, Richard et al 2014. That simple. You’re citing a 20 year old paper. Muh science doesn’t expire. Well, provide the information I am asking for. Unless you can’t?
You telling me to get information that I ask you for is not how debate works. Especially when you’re citing something to attempt to back your claim. I ask relevant and important questions involving this, and you tell me to look it up myself.
That is not how debating works.
pumpkinperson said:
It’s 5 in the morning here. I don’t have time to look up every study so I’m trusting the views of most of the scientists in the field who understand the issue far better than I do. If you want to believe they’re wrong that’s up to you.
RaceRealist said:
So why cite something that you cannot ask questions about when asked? They are simple questions. If you can’t answer them, say so.
If I told you blacks scored 50 percent higher than Whites, and say, the study was from Linda Gottfredson, and that was all we knew about the study, would you believe it? Would you take what I would say about it: “Trust the experts in the field. They know what they’re talking about.” Or do would you want to know about the study?
So and so is an expert. He debunked so and so. There. Game over.
That’s not how this works. I’ll just take that as you conceding that you cannot answer my questions you don’t have a robust study with a high N from the millennium and you can only cite a vague paper that has 2 pieces of information, and nothing else (ie, the important information).
If you want to believe that knowing literally NOTHING ELSE about the study, lol.
The Philosopher said:
Why does afro keep being a total fuxking hack?
Its obviously genetics. Like iq.
The asians have lower t like the indians because hey have had civilisation longer. So fucking dumb.
I was saying this 6 months ago.
Its as obvious as a man with leprosy.
pumpkinperson said:
I prefer the cold winter theory
RaceRealist said:
^^^
vvv
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201211/cold-winters-and-the-evolution-intelligence
Philosopher read this comment thread.
Deal with it! said:
Appeal to authority is NOT necessarily a fallacy. Deference to experts is necessary in science. One can’t just go ahead and do the experiments yourself.
The jury is out on a lot of scientific questions but deference to experts and mainstream theories makes a good deal of sense.
RaceRealist said:
Deal with it, the point is is I asked for specific information about the study. He either refused to answer or he does not know. These questions I asked are important. Are they not? What if it was 4 women, 2 black and 2 white? Is that good enough to make any large leaps in logic? I’m also asking because the other Ross studies have a super low n size, so I assume the same for this until I see otherwise.
The fact that pp won’t answer speaks volumes to me. He doesn’t know. But he only cites it because it agrees with his notion. But he can’t answer what should be simple questions about the study.
Deal, these are simple questions. That article is ridiculously vague, especially that section of it. Is knowing the n size important, especially with something such as this? Is knowing possible confounds important or not? These questions should be answered. I assume this study has a small n like all of the other Ross studies until proven otherwise.
pumpkinperson said:
RR i never said i knew the details of the study, I’m just citing the mainstream scientific consensus
RaceRealist said:
Well I would like to know the answer to those questions. I will look for the answers to these questions today. And if I cannot find the answers then I cannot accept that conclusion. I need to see details. I can’t just accept something because some guy said so, I’d like to see a paper with results, methods and conclusions and all that good stuff. I’m sure you’d be the same way.
Even then, 50 percent. OK? Did white women have 1 percent and black women had 2 percent? You know damn well that studies find things like that and say things like that and mislead people.
I don’t accept “50 percent higher testosterone”, I know you do because it agrees with your conclusion but it’s not so for me. I proved my point this whole comment thread and you gave no response. You literally said that environment can take explain the gap. It definitely can.
And you have to understand we need to know the answers to the questions I asked. Because that effects testosterone levels and you do well know it.
I don’t accept it. Everything I wrote last night and linked to back my assertion backs myself up. Richard et al 2014 backs me up, and you haw no clear response to it.
pumpkinperson said:
I’m not saying you have to accept the 50% figure. Specific numbers are likely to be wrong, but the point is there seems to be a non-trivial difference
RaceRealist said:
I’m going to see if the authors are still alive. I’m. Sure they are. I’m going to see if I can find an email to get a comment.
Non-trivial? I don’t doubt that there are small differences. But enough to explain the prostate cancer gap, even a large variance? I don’t buy it.
Vitamin D deficiency seems to be the much more likely culprit.
Deal with it! said:
Well, the most important question is always…
Has this been replicated?
RaceRealist said:
I have this link. 54 black women. 39 white women. Aged 20 to 90. Don’t know about specifics. Will check Sci-hub in the afternoon.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772584
I need to go to my black women and testosterone article and concede to that guy about black women and testosterone. Because I, like PP, cited that Macintosh study. But I’m an idiot and it takes me being such a huge contrarian to notice and realize faults. Even then, I wasn’t using the Macintosh study to assert that blacks had higher levels of testosterone than Whites. Just that black women did, in pregnancy. But I see the faults now. I’m an idiot sometimes
Meh, whatever. I admit when I’m wrong. Unlike some people.
RaceRealist said:
But if you’re asking for replication for early pregnancy with black women having 50 percent higher testosterone than white women, the the best of my knowledge, no. And as PP surely (hopefully?) knows, replication is the foundation of the scientific method. If you can’t replicate it it is meaningless.
Those questions I asked about the study were meaningful to it as well.
pumpkinperson said:
No that’s not how science works. Research is assumed to be true until new evidence discredits it. If we couldn’t move forward until things were replicated, entire fields would stagnate
RaceRealist said:
So things don’t need to be replicated? Really? I have to assume this is true, just the number “50 percent testosterone” because it’s in a paper, without any other information?
Lol. I don’t do that. And you know damn well that if this were me saying this to you you’d be jumping all. Over me.
So can you answer my question? If I just said oh yea, blacks scored 50 percent higher than Whites on an iq test would you believe me? Oh wait, but it’s not mainstream consensus so you wouldn’t believe me.
Ie, you only say this when it goes with your conclusions even when I blasted it last night.
Ooooooook.
pumpkinperson said:
Ideally every finding would be replicated but we don’t have the luxury of always knowing everything with 100% certainty. Most of the time scientists have to form theories based on incomplete knowledge
You can choose to piss all over any theory that doesn’t have perfect data backing it up, but i prefer to keep an open mind
RaceRealist said:
But replicating findings is the foundation of science.
Let’s say a study gets published saying that everyone vaccines cause autism. It hits the conspiratard websites. They say emphatically that vaccines cause autism. But that was the only study saying it. Can we say that vaccines cause autism or do we need replication?
I do have an open mind. Any and all of my views are on trial to be changed when sufficient evidence arises either when i read it or in a debate. I used to believe that figure, then I really thought about it and what needs to be known about the cohort. Sample size, diet, lifestyle, age, etc. These are relevant questions whether you admit it or not.
pumpkinperson said:
What if there was a study showing smoking caused cancer but it hasn’t been replicated? Should people keep smoking?
RaceRealist said:
And I also argued for a much more likely explanation for the gap, with sufficient evidence, and consensus since you like that, for my argument. My argument is logically sound. Testosterone isn’t the cause for the prostate cancer gap between blacks and whites. Please red up on it, i have extensively because I had to. That’s why I know about this.
pumpkinperson said:
Are you saying T plays no role at all in racial prostate cancer differences?
RaceRealist said:
No. I’m saying that test doesn’t explain the black white prostate cancer gap.
pumpkinperson said:
No. I’m saying that test doesn’t explain the black white prostate cancer gap.
It probably has more than one cause but T appears to be the leading theory
Afrosapiens said:
PP, have you read your link or did you just type F3 and searched the word testosterone ? Because your link says there are many more factors that need to be explored.
And have seen the worldwide epidemiology of prostate cancer on my link ? Why is there more prostate cancer prevalence in Sweden than in Mali or Ghana ?
I won’t have much time for a detailed argument today. But I have a proposal: could you create a poll that would ask each commenter’s approval rate, I really wanna know if there are some HBD curious people who respect Phil.
RaceRealist said:
Afrosapiens yes. I made a solid argument that vitamin D is the likely culprit, accounting for a large variation. Blacks’ skin and a cooler climate isn’t conducive to vitamin D. This is a large reason why they suffer from prostate cancer.
Not testosterone. As I’ve said a trillion times. Environmental factors explain a lot more of the variance.
pumpkinperson said:
PP, have you read your link or did you just type F3 and searched the word testosterone ? Because your link says there are many more factors that need to be explored.
I read enough to see this quote, implying hormones are the leading theory among specialists to explain the racial prostate cancer gap in the U.S.:
Most theories on the origins of prostate cancer are based on the idea that male hormones, or androgens, are involved—in particular, testosterone and its metabolic product dihydrotestosterone.
And have seen the worldwide epidemiology of prostate cancer on my link ? Why is there more prostate cancer prevalence in Sweden than in Mali or Ghana ?
Probably because Malia and Ghana have a less carcinogenic diet, combined with the fact that it doesn’t get diagnosed in sub-Saharan Africa because of less access to medical care. Racial comparisons within the U.S. better control for environment, but not always completely.
I won’t have much time for a detailed argument today. But I have a proposal: could you create a poll that would ask each commenter’s approval rate, I really wanna know if there are some HBD curious people who respect Phil.
I’ve actually thought about that, but it would be too easy for people to vote up themselves multiple times on an anonymous poll. I could do an open poll where I asked people to nominate in the comment section the three best commenters and then make a list of those who got the most nominations.
Afrosapiens said:
“I read enough to see this quote, implying hormones are the leading theory among specialists to explain the racial prostate cancer gap in the U.S.:”
You should have read it all because they’re not saying that these suspected hormonal differences are genetic.
“Probably because Malia and Ghana have a less carcinogenic diet, combined with the fact that it doesn’t get diagnosed in sub-Saharan Africa ”
No, Nigeria has a huge incidence of prostate cancer though not as high as African Americans. And African Americans might have a more unhealthy diet than whites. And what do you think about the high rate of Scandinavia and the Baltic or the high testosterone rates of East-Asians ?
“I’ve actually thought about that, but it would be too easy for people to vote up themselves”
Do you think we are that childish ? I mean even Phil knows that it would be suspicious if he appeared as the most approved commenter.
pumpkinperson said:
You should have read it all because they’re not saying that these suspected hormonal differences are genetic.
Did they deny it was genetic? If so quote the relevant part.
“Probably because Malia and Ghana have a less carcinogenic diet, combined with the fact that it doesn’t get diagnosed in sub-Saharan Africa ”
No, Nigeria has a huge incidence of prostate cancer though not as high as African Americans.
But Nigeria’s true rate might be even higher than black America’s if you could control for access to quality diagnosis.
And African Americans might have a more unhealthy diet than whites.
That probably partly explains it, but I doubt it’s the whole story.
And what do you think about the high rate of Scandinavia and the Baltic or the high testosterone rates of East-Asians ?
I think East Asians would have less testosterone if they were reared in America.
Do you think we are that childish ?
Yes
Afrosapiens said:
“Did they deny it was genetic? If so quote the relevant part.”
They don’t say blacks have high testosterone genetics.
“But Nigeria’s true rate might be even higher than black America’s if you could control for access to quality diagnosis.”
These are WHO statistics, and Africa is not that backwards, they diagnose cancer just as much as in Europe but at later stages, hence the increased mortality relative to the lower prevalence.
“I think East Asians would have less testosterone if they were reared in America.”
Why ? Your source says their rates of prostate cancer increase when they immigrate to the US.
And what about Northern Europe ?
pumpkinperson said:
They don’t say blacks have high testosterone genetics.
But they do validate Rushton’s use of prostate cancer as a proxy for testosterone in the United States.
“But Nigeria’s true rate might be even higher than black America’s if you could control for access to quality diagnosis.”
These are WHO statistics, and Africa is not that backwards, they diagnose cancer just as much as in Europe but at later stages, hence the increased mortality relative to the lower prevalence.
I find it hard to believe folks in poor countries have the same access to accurate cancer diagnosis as Americans; they likely have fewer hospitals and doctors per capita, the doctors might be less qualified and the hospitals have fewer resources and the public is less aware of the need to see a doctor. Also many males in Africa don’t even live long enough to get prostate cancer.
“I think East Asians would have less testosterone if they were reared in America.”
Why ? Your source says their rates of prostate cancer increase when they immigrate to the US.
Because I suspect that prostate cancer is caused by both American lifestyle AND testosterone, even though American lifestyle decreases testosterone.
And what about Northern Europe ?
Less fat so too much testosterone
Afrosapiens said:
“But they do validate Rushton’s use of prostate cancer as a proxy for testosterone in the United States.”
No, testosterone doesn’t need proxies since it can be directly measured.
Cancer in Africa:
http://canceratlas.cancer.org/the-burden/cancer-in-sub-saharan-africa/
WHO statistics are age adjusted so the differentials in life expectancy don’t affect the accuracy. Cancer can’t remain undiagnosed, Africa is not stuck in the middle ages, they detect and cure cancer. And the developed countries in the Caribbean have lower prostate cancer rates than African Americans too.
“Less fat so too much testosterone”
The whole world is leaner than the US. so why doesn’t France have higher rates than Sweden ?
Afrosapiens said:
Lots of fields do stagnate PP, high rates of hypothesis confirmation and absence of dull moments are unusual in science.
RaceRealist said:
“What if there was a study showing smoking caused cancer but it hasn’t been replicated? Should people keep smoking?”
People can smoke if they’d like. It’s their choice. Should statements are moral statements.
This was the case back in the 50s, as I’m sure you know. However it was replicated.
I’ll take this hypothetical for sake of argument.
A study says smoking doesn’t cause cancer. People then continue smoking. Smokers then start dying with high rates of cancer. But smoking doesn’t cause cancer so they look at other variables. Those variables cannot explain the cancer rate, so then a rogue scientist proposes that smoking causes cancer. A robust study is undertaken. It’s found that smoking causes cancer. People can continue smoking if they’d like, but they know they will get cancer.
“It probably has more than one cause but T appears to be the leading theory”
When you get the chance read Richard et al 2014. Yes it is something you should read. No it’s not ‘any old study’ that you shouldn’t look into because it directly rebuts Rushton. The studies he cites have small ns. More robust studies show either no gap with Mexicans having higher levels or blacks slightly edging out whites but the rates don’t explain the prostate cancer differences between blacks and whites.
Read the study when you get a chance so you know where I’m coming from and it’s most definitely something you should read when you have the chance because it’s directly related to this conversation and the conclusion found is the opposite.
RaceRealist said:
“Why ? Your source says their rates of prostate cancer increase when they immigrate to the US.”
It’s mainly due to diet.
RaceRealist said:
Afrosapiens said:
“It’s mainly due to diet.”
I’m trying to dissect PP’s logic which has East Asians having lower prostate cancer rates in their high testosterone ancestral environment but magically have lower T but higher cancer rates in the US.
RaceRealist said:
“But they do validate Rushton’s use of prostate cancer as a proxy for testosterone in the United States.”
It’s negligible, for the trillionth time. 2.5 to 4.9 percent. Do you think that explains prostate cancer or crime?
“Because I suspect that prostate cancer is caused by both American lifestyle AND testosterone, even though American lifestyle decreases testosterone.”
“You suspect”, at least you say as much. It’s largely due to environment. Testosterone is negligble. Vitamin D is the much more likely culprit.
“Less fat so too much testosterone”
Eating fat rasies testosterone.
maybe i love hitler or maybe i LOVE hitler! said:
white trash and black.
“white trash” is an interesting lexeme, because it really doesn’t mean “poor white”. though this may be the definition some lexicographers give.
that is, there are poor whites who are not white trash, and there are rich whites who are white trash.
i saw a black guy today at my local home depot. just saw him. but i could tell he was acculturated.
racism is based on behavior and appearance qua behavior much more than on appearance qua 100% heritable phenoytpe.
if black people didn’t act black and “look” black there’d be much less “racism”.
stop straightening your hair black ladies. you look ridiculous and pathetic.
Afrosapiens said:
I’ve always thought “white trash” had racist connotation. If people have the need to specify “white” it means trash is usually non-white in their mind. The french equivalent “beauf” is not a racial epithet although it refers to poor whites in the collective imaginary. But non-whites can have “beauf” behaviors too.
hitler is my co-pilot said:
i didn’t make it clear. i was shopping for an electric heater, and the “black guy” was an employee of Home Depot…a joint venture between an italian and a jew.
the guy who sold me my first NEW car was black. hard to tell, so to say. it was the toyota dealership in t.o. or agoura hills or something. i don’t remember.
i went to school with blacks…but two of them had pro-athlete fathers. so two of them were among “the rich kids”. yet the smartest of the three (and his sister) were sickeningly poor. food stamps.
race was never a thing.
it’s hard to believe looking back on it, but it wasn’t.
and even more unbelievable, perhaps, is that it wasn’t due to brainwashing from parents or the school.
same with the jap kids.
one of those two jap brothers lives in a west hills mansion now…his architect dad got him in on the ground floor of a (white gentile) real estate developer. the other brother is a lay about. he was the more talented athlete.
a little diversity may be fine. a lot it always too much.
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JIMMY said:
notice how most women in rap/r&b songs have substantial caucasoid admixture.
Either they are East African, like this girl , or they are mixed with European .
Black music videos are white supremacist in nature.
Afrosapiens said:
I rather think they chose women with universal facial features that are attractive to a diverse audience without transgressing the taboo about interracial dating. Also, HBDers tend to have an exaggerated perception of what a true African phenotype is, the girl in the video is about as black as Nelly.
Thinking Mouse said:
Nelly is very good looking, my god. Some photoshop would make him perfect.
Afrosapiens said:
pumpkinperson said:
Please stop spamming the comment section or i’ll be forced to put you in moderation
Afrosapiens said:
me girl asking me, two of us be drunk. can’t be worse than mugabe, Never meant to spam. me be nice boy
pumpkinperson said:
serious question: how do you know your girl’s not marrying you for your money?
Afrosapiens said:
lol whats that question ? the two of us are rich (I mean very rich). That’s my worst worry, and that’s why i never date without my background.
pumpkinperson said:
But what if EGI mskes her parents decide to leave their money to her siblings because they don’t want it to go to half-black grandkids?
Afrosapiens said:
lol that’s unbelievable, her parents aint’t like that. Our real problem is not being black and brown, it’s being Jew and Catholic. My Father in law thinks I’m gonna convert but I ain’t.
pumpkinperson said:
Under Jewish law your kids will be considered jewish whether you convert or not which means all your money is going to help her EGI, not yours.
Make her convert to some african religion 🙂
Afrosapiens said:
I am Catholic. Jewish ascendency is matrilineal.
Afrosapiens said:
Mikey blayze said:
Speaking of EGI 1 more month and my child enters the world. Don’t be surprised if I announce a 2nd child right after
Afrosapiens said:
Anyway, the best way to promote your genetic interests is having kids yourself.
For now, it’s only me and mikey who are on this way.
Afrosapiens said:
Afrosapiens said:
listen to èthat song
Afrosapiens said:
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Afrosapiens said:
This one’s for Phil.
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pumpkinperson said:
you’ve been placed in moderation
meLo said:
“interesting” music taste.
If you’re going to play white boy bands you should a least play some good white boys, like system of a down or disturbed.
Afrosapiens said:
My girl and I tend to play our teenage music when we drink, now we’re almost exclusively into black music.
meLo said:
IMO
Black music=Best music
This is true art:
I’m not even joking.
Afrosapiens said:
Great song. Range Rover dirty driving song.
meLo said:
ilovehitler said:
there is no dirty driving in france or anywhere in europe. nearest dirty driving is morocco.
in his ha’aretz interview of 1990, john strugnell said, i paraphrase,
“judaism is a horrible religion that should have died out 2,000 years ago.”
In 1990, Strugnell gave an interview to Ha’aretz in which he said that Judaism was a “horrible religion” which “should not exist”. He also said that Judaism was “a Christian heresy, and we deal with our heretics in different ways. You are a phenomenon that we haven’t managed to convert — and we should have managed.”
the same is true of france. france should have died out before napolean. it’s been down hill since that non-french ruler of france.
corsica != france.
or it’s been down hill since pepin the short or maybe charlemagne.
saint bruno is france’s greatest mind…
except he was german.
Deal with it! said:
Mugabe, have you even been outside the US? Lol.
Afrosapiens said:
Charlemagne wasn’t French, he was Frankish (German).
ilovehitler said:
exactly!
ilovehitler said:
would be better if deal posted under “pumpkin person”.
and if she’d done the grand tour.
there’s little dirty driving in most of the US and canada.
dirty driving requires steep, unpaved, full of holes roads.
such roads don’t exist in europe…maybe some in transylvania, the appalachia of europe, but the rest are…
if you drive it and you don’t think, “how can that not have broken my axle?” it’s not rough.
come visit us in cascadia!
“i drive a range rover!”
why? why the fuck do you drive a range rover?
Deal with it! said:
Grand Tour? Isn’t that like an 18th century thing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour
Afrosapiens said:
I was thinking in French, by “driving dirty” I meant respecting no rule, racing on a highway, driving under influence… Silly spoiled boy things.
Why do I drive a Range Rover ?
Why not ? That’s an alpha car.
Gypsyman said:
C’mon, let afro out of moderation fam
he got the dab game on point
The Philosopher said:
Not being de raciss now but as mah old colleague once said to me, if pogba is worth 100m, then de messi must be worth 500 of the millions.
Or Ibra.
At 35 must be worth double of this.
Which is 500 of de many millions.
Afrosapiens said:
Pogba is the most gifted French footballer ever. Messi and Ibrahimovic aren’t worth more than their market value.
RaceRealist said:
Damn that first goal was great. Not a fan of soccer (football for you heathens), but I can appreciate athleticism..
Afrosapiens said:
Americans think soccer is a sport for females, it’s true that soccer players don’t have the impressive physique of US footballers but footballers have nothing on rugbymen.
The Philosopher said:
Afros a fucking hack.
This is getting to the point of absurdity now.
Pogba isnt even the greatest french footballer ALIVE.
Griezemann has more impact and will break the world recrod himself apparently.
Such a fucking hack.
Sophist is actually beneath you.
Its like calling a jew ponzi scheme operator a shoplifter.
Total fuxking hack.
Afrosapiens said:
Dare saying that in the middle of the Champs Élysées ? We’re talking about France’s current national icon.
The Philosopher said:
The congo lyse you mean.
Take out grieze mann frm the team and see what happens.
120m bid turbed dow n from chelsea.
Afrosapiens said:
Lol, Griezmann and Pogba don’t even play on the same position. Pogba is just impressive as very versatile central midfielder, Griezmann is just what we must expect from a forward.
Afrosapiens said:
Unmoderate me, I’m sober now.
The Philosopher said:
Just saw my Jew dissertation supervisor there. I’d totally forgotten about him until just now on linkedin.
Unbelievable that guy – didn’t contribute anything and never met with me. Was too busy picking up his paychecks for nothing. Typical creepy Jew. Even back then before I knew hardly anything about HBD, I didn’t think he was trustworthy.
In fact, I would wager most people don’t know how to tell a Jew and assume many of the assholes that ripped them off in life were gentiles. It would be a humbling experience if we made them all wear stars and saw the HBD prophecy very clearly.
Maybe that was the purpose of the stars. To make people realise all their bosses, journalists, professors, bankers and lawyers were Chosen Ones.
I know you may moderate this, but, I think simply a historical observation on the reason why the Star of David was introduced. The equivalent today is the (((echoes of history))) of our really likeable and totally loveable and not seditious friends
The Philosopher said:
So I have a new addition to my A-S vagina monologues.
A person can be so autistic that they end up doing the cool thing by complete accident.
Hahahahahaha.
The Philosopher said:
Zion’s candidate. The Witch Queen of Angmar.
Deal with it! said:
Better than Donald the pussy grabber Trump
Afrosapiens said:
I’m released
Just kidding.
The Philosopher said:
You can see the disintegration of the black household in America the way the IQ of black music ‘IQ’ has dropped about 20 points since the 90s.
Or the 80s.
Or the 70s
And finally very high musical IQ jazz
Which jews tend to listen to more today than blacks.
Alan Greenspan was a jazz trumpeter. And the new major jazz movie is done by a white guy with hollywood jew approval. Woodie Allen a big fan as well…
I nearly jumped up from my seat in the cinema when I first heard this in the movie!
Hahahahaha! Its amazing!!!!
I have a habit of bursting out laughing when a melody clicks outrageously like that.
The fuckin junk today is terrible. You lil kids don’t know what yo black nigga ass is missin. Y-O-NOOOOO.
The Philosopher said:
So I go to the some hip hop club in Prague and Grandmasta Flash is the only track I liked in the 4 hours I was there.
There’s no melody in black music today.
Radiohead gone the same way I suppose, more abstractly.
to
But its more an implied melody. There’s a progression even though its stripped back.
The Philosopher said:
Yes I can hear the out of tune. I thought it was just the acoustics of the hall.
Defo the trumpet.
Afrosapiens said:
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You must be so damn old to listen to this prehistoric music.
The Philosopher said:
Wanna know a secret afro?
Music, movies, books, from pre 2000 are generally much better, objectively, than zions golden age.
This is a dark age for the west.
Even for blacks.
Early 1990s are generally considered hip hops golden age. If you listen to those tracks above I think you’ll agree.
Pharrel listens to more stuff from the 70s than today. Listen to him talk.
I suspect Kanye is the same based on his praise for David bowie.
Afrosapiens said:
The difference between you and I is that I live with my time whereas you live with the memories from your glorious past and the culture that comes with it.
penis picture posting person said:
afro is 24 but, like pill and other non-human hominids, has the mind of a child.
sad.
it’s got nothing to do with age. i and those of my classmates with IQs above room temperature never listened to contemporary pop music, and we ridiculed those who did. iirc it was roger daltrey who said, in the late 70s, “rock is dead!” the form has been exhausted. all the good songs have been written. and “crap” can’t be spelled without “rap”. that was always true. as goebbels said, “the art of the subhuman”.
it is to be hoped that afro and pill may be conditioned to clap and boo at the right time even if they don’t why they’re doing it. but anything more is unrealistic.
more penis pictures to come. otherwise peepee will not be blessed by my presence.
The Philosopher said:
Robert posts penis pictures and thinks women want only money. Hes the wise old man of mcdonalds lollipop emerald city.
But hes right that anyone wih a 120 iq plus will not find moderb beat beat ho ho music endearing.
Melody makes the music.
But if you loo at record sales and live ticket sales, the hip hop phenomenon is an illusion for the yunguns.
Coubtry albums sold well last year.
The Philosopher said:
Actually the difference between you and me is a good 30 iq points and maybe more depending on the intelligence type.
I suspecr your quant was abysmal in school.
Afrosapiens said:
I’m not snobish when it comes to music. All I need is a catchy beat and optionally some interesting lyrics. Pop is entertainment, not art.
My father would say it’s savage music, I’d say “no dad, it’s just massive club banger”. And it doesn’t have any other pretension.
It’s interesting though, I thought Mugabe was part of his high school’s cool crowd.
The Philosopher said:
You think most dime rappers dont put on airs and act real cool.
Its more theatrical at the lower level you dummy.
Almost stage managed.
Afrosapiens said:
So what ? It’s entertainment, it doesn’t need to be deep. A good beat, some entertaining music, rap does the job in the most straightforward way.
And I actually prefer that most of what they say and the things they portray are fictional, that would be frightening otherwise. My generation understands that, yours sees it on the first degree.
GondwanaMan said:
My opinion is that the pinnacle of sophistication in American music was the American songbook era from the 1920s-1950s. That includes composers like Gershwin, Cole Porter, Jerome Kern, Duke Ellington, Rodger and Hammerstein, etc, and performers like Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald and jazz musicians. At that time, there were some regional genres, like country and blues, but the pop standards couldn’t be beat.
Then, in the 1950s, pop music bifurcated into several genres intended to appeal to teenagers, since they gained massive amounts of purchasing power after the Second World War. Like Rock n’ Roll, R & B, doo-wop, Motown, rockabilly, etc. Most of these genres were ephemeral, but they were still pretty sophisticated.
Then during the late 1960s, music because increasingly Balkanized into racial categories, ironically as America was becoming more integrated. White music evolved a three part separation into high-brow and low-brow genres (high: prog/art rock, baroque pop, low: punk rock), and middle-brow music being mainstream pop. Black music stayed fairly middle-brow, with Philadelphia soul, funk, and Chicago soul like Earth, Wind & Fire.
Then at some point in the 80s, black music decided to start going primitive with rap, and then went full-retard sometime during the early 2000s, while white music maintained its three part separation of low/middle/high-brow, but with low-brow white music dominating more and more, especially when mixed with hip-hop, industrial, and EDM. And nowadays all of the mainstream music is aimed at an audience of 80-IQ people, instead of 100-IQ people as it was originally.
If anyone can come up with a theory as to why this happened, I’m interested to hear it.
Afrosapiens said:
Crap music from the past has been forgotten, the whole “things were better before” thing is just selective memory and misplaced pseudo-intellectualism. And all of this is subjective, you’ll never have a robust theory about that.
GondwanaMan said:
This video sums up a lot of my feelings. No, it’s not purely subjective that music has become more and more simplistic, it’s pretty objective in terms of pitch range used in melodies and the variety of chords progressions. It hasn’t been a completely linear downward trend (I would argue there was a lot of great experimental music made from the late 60s into the early 80s), and there’s always been corny novelty songs, but if you go back to the beginning of popular music, it’s obvious music has gradually become stupider and less interesting (with sex added in to make it interesting again).
Afrosapiens said:
There have always been some snobs to criticize the music of the new generation. All the genres you cite have been trashed by a handful of autistic puritans.
All I have to say is live with your time and enjoy life.
GondwanaMan said:
I try listening to modern top 40 radio occasionally but it’s mostly boring to me. But then, I don’t party much, or go to places where women are dancing to that kind of music.
meLo said:
“So what ? It’s entertainment, it doesn’t need to be deep. A good beat, some entertaining music, rap does the job in the most straightforward way.”
THANK YOU! White people don’t understand. It’s entertainment! Sometimes I wanna hear a dope beat and dumb violent lyrics because I want to wild out and get drunk with my friends.
The Philosopher said:
Peepee keeps talking about Flynn.
The Americans are getting stupider.
Much stupider.
You can see it in all the proxies.
The IQ testing above showing asians=jews is the same measurement error.
Something is going wrong in these IQ test norming sessions.
American’s are clearly dumber than the 50s and fatter. Blacks are clearly dumber than the 50s, and physically larger.
When will I get my nobel prize?
Thats right.
199 never.
RaceRealist said:
We are fatter due to our diets. We are dumber, in part, due to our diets. Diet is a large part to it.
Afrosapiens said:
Isn’t there more nutrition-awareness now than 10-20 years ago ? I’m under the impression that everybody is obsessed with fitness now, in France at least.
RaceRealist said:
No idea about elsewhere in the world, but America is a different story. Though, my field is set to explode in the next 5 to 10 years because people are fearful of obesity and diabetes. Good. They just happen to be my (future) specialties.
Did you check out my most recent article? You can see the negative effects of diet on test scores. Hmmm
JS said:
RR: Dolce & Gabbani — A partnership between a Northern Italian and a Sicilian.
It’s obvious that Domenico Dolce, the guy on the right is the Southerner.
JS said:
And remember, anything South of Rome is Southern Italian, and it’s interesting the phenotypes south of Rome DO LOOK different from the ones north of it.
Afrosapiens said:
1= We say Dolce & Gabbana instead of Dolce & Gabbani.
2= It’s a nouveau riche gay brand
“Did you check out my most recent article? You can see the negative effects of diet on test scores. Hmmm”
I’ve seen it, in fact current day obsession with fitness is unlikely to increase intelligence since it doesn’t target intelligence at all. I doubt squats, deadlifts and high protein diets with some nutritional imbalances make people smarter.
RaceRealist said:
“I’ve seen it, in fact current day obsession with fitness is unlikely to increase intelligence since it doesn’t target intelligence at all. I doubt squats, deadlifts and high protein diets with some nutritional imbalances make people smarter.”
That’s not what I said.
Maternal milk DHA is correlated with cognitive performance. Read this when you get the chance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3206402/
This is so interesting. Because two fatty acids can and do dictate cognitive performance, negatively (n-6) and positively (n-3).
If you know about the horrible mismatch between n-6 and n-3 in the American diet (26 times higher n-6 than n-3), then you can see how cognitive abilities will be sapped due to the American diet. The above paper is outstanding. I love Lassek and Gaulin’s research and that article has a positive commentary in it as well. I don’t know how well they are respected in their field, though. I need to buy their book.
Afrosapiens said:
I know you didn’t talk about gym, I was just “nuancing” my remark about fitness.
RaceRealist said:
JS, look up facial averages of northern and southern Italians.
Afro, yea I know.
You’ll like this:
Cardiovascular fitness and cognitive ability are correlated at age 18 (Aberg et al, 2009). A change in physical achievement at age 15 predicted cognitive ability at age 18. Cardiovascular fitness is associated with cognition in young adulthood.
http://www.pnas.org/content/106/49/20906.full
The Philosopher said:
That’s right realist.
I never exercised at all when I was young but did better than most of the jock guys in the bleep testing in school.
It goes back to the blood delivery physiology to the brain.
Pumpkin wrong about brain size.
Many intelligent people have small heads like vo neumann, schlesigner Jr or most Asians and jews.
The big heads may be a race not used to selecting for abstract intelligence needing to mUtada skull size to get the same vim for the same physical space boom.
It’s the dendrites and neuronot wiring pp.
Where is my Nobel prize?
199 never.
pumpkinperson said:
Many intelligent people have small heads like vo neumann, schlesigner Jr or most Asians and jews.
1) brain size is only moderately correlated with IQ
2) head size is just a proxy for brain size
3) I doubt Von Neumann’s head was small
peepee is censoring me! said:
I real life, my physique and personality speak for themselves…now we’re almost exclusively into black music.
peepee is censoring me! said:
i also have a black french boyfriend. we love this song.
that’s not me. my picture may cause clitoral priapism.
Deal with it! said:
You’re hilarious…. sometimes
Afrosapiens said:
Lawl ! That’s music from from the time of my grandfather. I’m Apesapiens, not Charles de Gaulle.
2017 French dudes with swag listen to that:
While their girlfriends twerk to that:
Deal with it! said:
This blog is boring as hell without Mugabe peepeeeeeeeee
marshamurphy1 said:
Back off BITCH!
Otherwise you gona be known as that SASQUATCH BITCH!
pumpkinperson said:
That was uncalled for. I’m putting you back in moderation.
The Philosopher said:
YEEEOWWSAAA..