Yesterday The New York Times reported:
Dr. Jackson said that despite expressions of concern, a cognitive test was not indicated for Mr. Trump and he had not planned to conduct one at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., where the president underwent his annual physical on Friday.
“This has been the narrative for a while. He saw doing the physical as an opportunity to put some of that to rest,” Dr. Jackson said during a nearly hourlong question-and-answer session in the White House briefing room. “He actively asked me to include that in it, so we did.”
Dr. Jackson said that Mr. Trump received a score of 30 out of 30 on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment, a well-known test regularly used at Walter Reed and other hospitals.
The test is described as a “rapid-screening instrument for mild cognitive dysfunction” that focuses on “attention and concentration, executive functions, memory, language” and other mental skills. It asks patients to repeat a list of spoken words, identify pictures of animals like a lion or a camel, draw a cube or draw a clock face set to a particular time.
Dr. Jackson said the president did “exceedingly well” on the screening test, adding evidence to the doctor’s own assessment that the president has been “very sharp” during numerous interactions he has had with him during the past year.
Psychiatric experts said the brief, 10- to 15-minute screening test is not comprehensive and might not catch all patients with early stages of dementia. Dr. Bandy Lee, the author of “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump,” which expresses concern about the president’s mental health, said in a brief interview that the president requires a full, detailed neuropsychiatric evaluation.
However, Dr. Jackson said he had observed Mr. Trump closely, often several times a day, for the past year, and was satisfied that the Montreal test is “sensitive enough” to have picked up serious cognitive issues if they were present.
In order to convert Trump’s perfect score of 30/30 to IQ, I found a study that tried to norm the Montreal Cognitive Assessment. The norms showed that Trump scored 1.82 standard deviations (SD) above the mean for his 70+ age group, implying an IQ of 127+ since each standard deviation above the mean on the IQ scale equals 15 points above 100.
However as the table below shows, the sample was overwhelmingly non-white , and IQ has traditionally been normed with reference to the white population. Unfortunately the samples were too small to provide norms specifically for whites in Trump’s age group but from the table below we can calculate that being +1.82 SD with respect to total norms equals +1.74 with respect to white norms. Assuming the same holds in Trump’s age group and assuming he legitimately scored perfect on this test (no monkey business), it implies an IQ of 126+ (white norms).
In the past I’ve estimated Trump’s IQ to be as high as 125, but it looks like he’s at least that smart, and possibly much smarter, since the Montreal Cognitive Assessment doesn’t measure beyond 126+ in Trump’s cohort, and it’s tempting to add a 5 point bonus because many of the dullest folks in Trump’s birth cohort are excluded from these norms because of death, poor health and impairment. If all had survived and been tested the average score would have been lower, thus making Trump perhaps 5 points smarter. On the other hand, the standard deviation of the raw scores might be deflated by the mean being so close to the ceiling, thus inflating Trump’s IQ 5 points. These two biases likely cancel each other out.
can anyone tell me about my scores like the test of memory malingering? I got 50/50 but do not know what it means.
I got 99.9 on one tests but do not know anything about it (it is 3.1 deviations above the norm)
NYT is always trying to cast aspersions on Trump. My opinion is that trump is indeed intelligent but not in the scholarly sense. If there was a way to measure social intelligence, he would be the equivalent of Einstein or Von Neumann in math.
Social intelligence can be measured but Trump reportedly scored perfect on even a measure of conventional intelligence.
Science /= commentary on the veracity of what one already measures.
I think you can be a scientist and study things that can’t be measured.
As long as you are eliminating or reducing the probability of certain hypotheses about the thing being studied.
In this way, people investigating haunted mansions are scientists.
Conspiracies don’t exist until all the conspirators make a public announcement that they bribe, blackmail and threaten people in a coordinated manner to control US foreign policy – Robert Mugabe.
What do you think of Trump’s foreign policy?
pill is far too kind to himself.
the inability for self-criticism is sad!
i look up my old comments.
and i think…
trump not only beat better funded professional politicians he was also the oldest of the lot.
oprah is TRASH.
Im reading Wolffs book and cant help but like Trump even more. He reminds me of a sitcom character. There is nothing sinister about him like say Nixon or G HW Bush. Hes completely narcissistic.
Rupert Murdoch is definitely a globalist. That said, not in the jewish manner but in a more secular manner.
One reason the media can’t understand why trump was elected is because he is likeable to people. To a usually jewish person in the media, that doesn’t mean ‘morally correct’ or ‘says the correct things which we demand’. He is a bit like the jock in high school thats popular and all the gamma males are seething over how someone so narcisstic and crude and stupid could be popular. It makes total sense if you look at the relationship between the media and Trump like high school social scenes.
Trump is likeable because he’s like a comic book character with his larger than life empire of sky scrapers, private jets, gold apartments and wild hair, and he has a childlike authenticity people find endearing.
I guess his immaturity leads him to a higher authority, Chucky Schumer, who is Ashkenazi and high IQ, as the most savvy politician in the halls of our nation’s capitol.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/government-shutdown-looms-as-senate-democrats-dig-in-against-gop-spending-plan/ar-AAuQXPv?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp
I feel like despite people constantly professing acceptance to the notion that high intelligence does not necessarily equate to high wisdom, we clearly have a bias in favor of it (Sam Harris comes to mind). So many people are willing to downplay Trump’s intelligence because, maybe, he does not show contemporary, conventional wisdom, something that is basically dominated by neoliberal platitudes, and not at all what he ran on.
Trump is empirically intelligent. It is almost absurd to suggest otherwise, just by his achievements alone. And I honestly believe his IQ is 134+. Him being, admittedly, a polarizing figure has understandably blinded many intelligent people, and unfortunately demonstrating their elitism, and contempt for the American core, in the process; they are cosmopolitan, after all.
Please calculate Warren Buffett’s iq.
Yes, I’ve been meaning to talk about him for a long time. I’ll get around to it sometime within the next 2 weeks. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
The philosopher thinks Buffett has autism.
I think he confuses a personality type for autism.
https://www.16personalities.com/istj-personality