I blogged about all this way back in December 2014, but in light of all the Oprah for President talk, it’s worth repeating what I said back then.
It’s hard to think of a more disastrous decision for America than the 2003 U.S.-led invasion to remove Saddam Hussein, which cost America an incalculable amount of blood, treasure, security, and political capital, and continues to wreak havoc today, so those who had the intellect, courage, and integrity to oppose the war before it began deserve a large amount of credit, particularly if they did so publicly; and it’s hard to think of anyone who did so more publicly than Oprah, who did so repeatedly.
Of course Oprah was not publicly opposed to the Iraq war from the start. After being bombarded with hate mail for doing a 2001 show asking whether war with Afghanistan was the only answer, she was not eager to appear anti-war when it came to Iraq too. Indeed in October 2002 she did an Iraq show that was largely pro-war, and where Oprah was dismissive of an anti-war audience member.
Professor Daphne Read explained that in the aftermath of the attacks on the World Trade Center, The Oprah Winfrey Show, like all mainstream media, “was very closely tied to the Bush administration’s response and the media rhetoric of America Under Attack,…however, the content of Winfrey’s forum began to diverge from the purely consensual, giving voice to a much wider range of views”
By November 2002, Oprah had jumped off the media’s pro-war bandwagon. In his book Dude where’s my country? anti-war advocate Michael Moore praised her for being the only mainstream media at the time to show footage of Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam Hussein’s hand in the 1980s.
However the most significant anti-war show Oprah would do was a two-day special that aired the day after Colin Powell’s pivotal February 2003 U.N. speech making the case for war, which was credited with shifting public opinion in favor of regime change. Winfrey recruited reporters from CNN to gather clips from people from countries as diverse as Britain, France, South Africa, Iraq, and Pakistan all trying to persuade America not to go to war, along with anti-war luminaries like Nelson Mandela and Pope John Paul II. Here’s some brief clips from that show.
Buzzflash.com claimed there was a deliberate attempt to stop the show from airing in some markets:
Bush pre-empted Oprah for no reason other than to stop her broadcast regarding Iraq and insert his own propaganda!…In the middle of the show a “Special News Report” notice came up, then Peter Jennings announced Bush would be making a MAJOR announcement on Iraq. Then Bush and Powell came in and Bush summarized what Powell had said yesterday at the UN. He spent about 20 minutes in all…The Administration would have known the content and timing of today’s show because it is broadcast live and/or in the morning in many markets such as Oprah’s home base in Chicago. This was in such bad form I couldn’t believe it! I called Harpo Studios in Chicago to let them know and they said they had received a lot of phone calls. I said Oprah should tell her audience what happened and that I thought Bush was purposely interfering with her show. They commented they didn’t know what the reason was and in any case there was no way to prove anything
Academics for Justice made the same assertion:
Today, Oprah Winfrey started a two-part series focusing on the impending U.S. war on Iraq. About halfway through the show the broadcast was pre-empted by coverage of Pres. George Bush, with Colin Powell at his side, reading a prepared statement on Iraq. The coincidental timing of this pre-emptive press statement raised immediate questions about the motives of the White House war strategists. Students of the Civil Rights Movement will recall an incident in 1964 when activist Fannie Lou Hamer sat before a live television audience and gave a riveting account of the oppression she and other Blacks faced in the South. President Lyndon Johnson was so convinced of the power of her appeal to undermine his own political/racial agenda, that he hastily called a press conference to pull cameras away from Hamer’s impassioned revelations…The pre-emption of Winfrey’s show today should be seen in the same light. Oprah’s audience is a vast and powerful—but largely apolitical—force of middle-class white women. It is likely that most did not watch Colin Powell’s live testimony at the U.N. yesterday. In fact, it is likely that this huge audience was being oriented to the issues of the Iraq war for the first time…The first 30 minutes of the show was decidedly anti-war and highlighted not only worldwide unanimity in opposition to the war but presented many of the heretofore unheard voices of ordinary people speaking forcefully against Bush’s motives
Undeterred by the alleged attempt to stop part of her February 2003 anti-war shows from airing, Oprah made one last ditch attempt to stop the war in March 2003. Just 48 hours before the war the began, Oprah aired an anti-war show that included Michael Moore and the following shocking video:
Shortly after the show aired, Harvard Law grad Ben Shapiro condemned the show, calling Oprah a dangerously powerful political force, shaping the views of millions with her ignorant views and wacky reasoning. In fairness, Shapiro was really young at the time. However Canada’s most respected media critic, John Doyle of the Globe and Mail, praised the show as “an act of extraordinary intelligence from Oprah.”
Doyle wrote:
At a time when the consensus in American television is that everybody should pull together and support the men and women in the U.S. military, what Oprah Winfrey did was outright subversion. In the last week, Clear Channel, Worldwide Inc., America’s largest radio conglomerate (and a company looking for a break from the U.S. government), has been organizing pro-Bush and pro-war rallies and then reporting on them. A Nashville TV station has been charging local advertisers to take part in an on-air, support the military campaign and gloating about the profits. That’s just the tip of it…In normal circumstances, the perspectives [Oprah] presented would not be notable, but in the contemporary context, they were amazing.
The decision to invade or not invade Iraq was arguably the most important test of the courage, integrity, and intelligence, that America’s leadership has faced in the last half century, and the fact that Oprah passed this test speaks very well of her qualifications to be President.
Whites are not the most evil robert…..[redacted by pp, Jan 14, 2018]. In suck and tired of being the lone voice of reason here.
Whatever group has the most power gets labelled evil. So pygmies & Bushmen call Bantus evil because they have the power to oppress them. Same reason blacks call whites evil and Arabs call Jews evil. So the real measure of evil is not how many you oppress, but the ratio of how many you oppress to the amount of power you have. I’ll do the calculations some day.
That’s because pill’s schizophrenia makes him anthropomorphize everything. Autistics on the other hand under-anthropomorphize and thus tend to be atheists. Overdeveloped social brain vs underdeveloped social brain.
And that’s not to say pill’s necessarily wrong, we just needs to be aware his interpretations will be skewed in a certain direction.
we is you and pill in a russian funded troll farm in montenegro?
as i have said so many times…
there is one crazy conspiracy theory which might actually be true…
that the USSR…
FAKED its collapse.
The everyday Russian people are cool. They tried to warn America not to go to Iraq in a very respectful way:
“I’ll do the calculations some day”
How ?
Haven’t worked out the details yet
I’m not asking you the details but the general idea.
I would have some measure of how much harm a group has done to others (i.e. how many people they’ve killed) divided by some measure of the group’s power (i.e. wealth). So a poor group that’s killed a lot of people would be the most evil and a rich group that’s killed hardly anyone would be the least evil. Something like that.
A group can use people from another group to kill people.
Very good point.
Just like in this Iraq war, I guess.
ZA also had the bomb and has nuclear power.
quite accomplished for only 5m white people.
i didn’t say they were the most evil.
what’s your native language?
what i said was that in an evil competition whites will win.
Wrong!
“what i said was that in an evil competition whites will win.”
What’s that even supposed to mean ?
Whites are more likely the least evil. They are the only one to care about how people at the other end of the planet feel, the only ones to care about how animals feel. Every people on Earth practiced slavery, only Whites ended it.
i strongly encourage dealwithit to post pictures of herself nude so i can fap to them.
i’ll go first.

look at the guys cobie smulders and emily deschanel are married to.
maybe cobie and emily look 10x better on tv but are ugly in person.
Finding ways to mutually co-exist = evolution.
True or false?
Generally false although “more evolved” organisms tend to show higher levels of cooperation
But what makes us human is we can transcend evolutionary impulses and think morally. Of course some say morality’s just an illusion, though Mug of Pee argues it’s real, but claims only 1% of the population is smart enough to infer the correct morality.
What do you think of Kohlberg’s six stages of moral development:
morality begins with self-respect, I remember mug sayn’
people that would demean themselves for some benefit are not moral
All organisms show ‘higher levels of cooperation’. Some more than others, obviously.
I’d go along with Kohlberg. Morality is very complicated though because there are different strains to it like justice, honour, empathy, conscientiousness etc. and how these receive priority or not is sometimes hard to discern.
If Bernie runs in 2020 again, I think it could lead to the end of the Democreep party once and for all once they rig it against him again.
If I had to bet, they will recruit a neocon to run like Booker or Kamala Harris.
All politicians in this era are serveants. Just like the professors, judges, millitary officers, newspaper journalists etc. The system perpetautes itself by making as many people servile as possible. This is why autism is selected in these peoples children.
yet more proof that psychiatry and HBD are bullshit.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4482518/
How does that prove that?
duh!
because a simple but profound environmental/social change reduces suicide by as much as 80%. this contradicts hereditism.
AND…
mental illness per se is NOT a health problem for the mentally ill EXCEPT if they kill themselves as a result.
that is, if they can’t hold a job or are homeless this is a SOCIAL problem. it’s not a physical health problem in itself, it leads to physical health problems within a particular society.
Embarrassing answer.
When people talk about HBD, nobody claims suicide rates are due to race. Its not one of the main tenets.
Suicide is to mental illness what sleep apneia is to obesity. Its tangential. Many suicides aren’t even caused by mental illness.
I guess I never mentioned it but I should add that I think Oprah would be a terrible president. Every day would be race baiting with speeches about the chains of slavery and ‘legacy of colonialism’. I lose my fuckin mind reading this shit in newspapers and blogs so to see the president talk about reparations and how black women are just as beautiful as white women is going to annoy me.
To be fair to Obama, he only brought up race when the media did a fake news police shooting. Otherwise he was correct that sermonising about the magical nature of negroes just annoys people into voting for people like Trump.
I have nothing constructive to say right now.
But this video made me laugh my ass off.
(Hart Love for Oprah being against the Iraq war.)
The stupid people thought they could invade Iran next, (stupid)
People Ruin Uganda Knuckles (VRChat)
So Sailer says autism is linked to gender dysphoria. I think that makes sense when you listen to Badcock who says autism is a lack of gender. These people are confused eunuchs.
Yet more evidence that autism isn’t ‘male brain’ as Baron Cohen suggests. Badcock is correct. Baron Cohen is wrong.
All you have to do is look at autistic people. Do they seem masculine? Hahahaha.
They are cognitively masculine in that they are better with numbers & objects than they are with words & people. It’s female autistics who are transgender because their brains are so masculine they want to be men. Men who want to be women tend to be schizophrenic (i.e. Norman Bates)
Sailer implies its autistic men that want to become women. AFAIK, autism is much rarer in women than men….so I maybe be wrong about it not being male brain if you take this as an indication.
Social intelligence question
I have a friend who is going out with a black girl. When he met her best friend (also a black girl) she said he looked like John Travolta. Then on facebook she later said she took it back and now thinks he looks like Tom Brady, the athlete (he actually does). His girlfriend liked her comment. His girlfriend knows whether her friend is into white men or not. Can you tell from his girlfriend liking that comment that her friemd likes white men? Or is it impossible with the facts given?
I’d be interested to hear your opinions.
most black women believe white men have red penises like dogs. and they say, “i don’t do red.”
This is fun.
Id say that the girlfriends friend does, becuase she could maintain the image of his face when not in her precense, thinking about him in ways outside of emidiate social etiquete.
Yeah i must have add. I used to think it was a made up condition to sell drugs but it makes sense of you aee it as the opposite to autistic obsessive focus and rule following. In a way i admit im lazy but i really cant stand looking at the stuff.
[redacted by pp, jan 16, 2018]
no dumbass.
EVERYONE benefits from amphetamines in terms of attention and perseverance.
it’s just that some people benefit so much they can be diagnosed with a bullshit illness.
the universally salutary effect of amphetamines is another reason why all drugs should be legal to buy and sell but heavily regulated and taxed.
yes! there should be a heroin and cocaine shop in every town, but…
1. advertising is illegal, and
2. taxes are as high as they can be and still keep the legal price lower than the black market price.
Reading wollfs trump book. Wolf is remarkably fair for a msm journalist. Trump seems to have add. Bannon was a massive figure in trumpism. All the elites worry about israel. Trump seems like some shallow used car salesman but someone with a big heart for people.
Nothing in it is surprising. So far. Wolff implies the russia stuff is fake because they hate trunp so much and are blinded by rage.
Wolff has some autism momements. He cant figure out why trump talked about removing columns in the cia building to the cia. Trump is not an idiot in the social sense. Wolf keeps implying hes a know nothing idiot in the intellectual sense thou.
He says teump cant read a balance sheet. If that is true trump s iq must be averae at best.. .but hos social iq is obv remarkable.
Trump not being able to read a balance sheet is very shocking to me. He is a wharton grad and billionaire businessman. Wolff must be lying or exaggerating.
I dont expect an aca standard of accounting knowledge but trump must surely be able to work out liquidity or solvency. Surely.
I could read a balance sheet aged 14 coming from a hillbilly family.
Langan might be right that trumps actons prove his iq more than his book learning.
what does it mean to be able to “read a balance sheet”?
assets = liabilities + shareholder’s equity
problem is the assets are often understated in industrials and overstated in financials.
as long as return on assets exceeds return on liabilities, it’s possible to maintain negligible or negative equity.
but what’s the economic reason why this is possible?
it seems it must involve monopoly or near it.
for example: BA and UPS have teeny tiny equities and MCO has negative equity.
of course so-called human capital is never accounted for.
but why should one company have so much more human capital than another?
reading The Intelligent Investor recently. apparently graham couldn’t read a balance sheet either. he was yuge on p/b.
p/b is a great measure of value only with financials. that is, banks and insurance companies.
i still don’t how to value companies like BA, UPS, and MCO.
actually the one schedule i drug that might never be legalized is heroin.
the reason is that…
1. tolerance develops quickly.
2. the effective and lethal dose soon cross as a result of reason 1.
heroin is unique in this respect afaik.
that is, in the case of heroin the problem is not just social.
irrespective of the society junkies are at much higher risk of death (from overdose).
at the same time, and against the common wisdom…
a maintenance dose of heroin is not that bad for the addict’s health.
burroughs died at 83 from causes unrelated to his heroin addiction.
in terms of physical damage, EtOH is the champion.
My sister did 6 times the dose of a drug called “spice”. I and her boyfriend had to hold her as she was having a seizer. She has scabs on her face because she pops her pimple so everyone on Facebook thinks she is on meth which she has not been for ten months. She had no sours on her face ever, the scabs are deep pimple popping.
I had hallucinations after eating marijuana chocolates. My stoner thought became to dark making all those dark connections and possibilities and I semi-lucid dreamed coming in an out of reality. My heartbeat was 180 in the ambulance. When they put the EKG on my chest I thought it was an Islamic suicide and I was going to explode which I did several times in a dark void.
Brother smokes marijuana for ulcers. Lost 8 teeth. Hears voices. Has pain tolerance to pick up objects from a hot stove. Has ADD. Plays video games. Is mechanical in cognition. Likes tools. Almost eidetic memory.
Memory palace in his head.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci
peepee would give up lesbianism for richard spencer.
operation barbarossa was the one stupid thing the nazis did.
every southern white boy imagines the hour before pickett’s charge when the confederacy was winning the war.
every nazi imagines the day before june 22, 1941, when the nazis had the war WON.
speaking of shithole countries.
according to wikipedia moldova is poorer than india.
my guess is it’s not…the GDP per capita doesn’t register all the remittances from moldovans working abroad.