In honor of her birthday today, thought I’d post this fun add from 1991 when streets would literally go deserted at 4 pm because everyone was rushing home to watch her syndicated show which ran from 1986 to 2011:
Happy birthday Oprah!
29 Friday Jan 2021
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Pumpkin Person 
if the difference between two negroes is bigger than that between any two diasporans from different races…then for all important purposes the two negroes might as well be in different races…thats within the same time period…how much more when you separate them by 200000 years
the point of aa is who it hurts, not who it helps. drrr!
It still helps blacks regardless of its point dumbass
no it doesn’t you fucking moron.
99% of blacks are worse off today than they were 50 years ago.
Wow! So Oprah’s even more impressive then she would have been 50 years ago! Checkmate!
Sources
https://www.epi.org/publication/50-years-after-the-kerner-commission/
but they’re not worse off because aa. they’re worse off because crime, illegitimacy, cultural values, etc.
afaict 20-30% have benefited from social changes. The other 2/3rds haven’t.
Autism is unsymmetrical.
They have a lopsided view with empathy.
It is not that they have no empathy just that it is skewed.
Understanding is a little off but not gone.
Sloppy and irresponsible as always.
That’s why fake hbDeers don’t deserve a good reputation or consideration at all.
Always on the surface of deep web, the land of psychotic and of unsucessfull psychopaths.
Lack of moral capacity is directly related with lower real intelectual skills and not just IQ
Fake hbDeers are doing a tremendous disservice in intelligence’s understanding reducing this very relevant topic to IQ. Since 2000’s repeating the same thing. Why??
Personal vanity…
A real scientist cannot confuse the personal stuff with what they pretend to discover or study. It’s also means about homophobia in this specific case. A real scientist also need understand the possible social consequences of their actions. This is just the basic of common sense.
I trying to understand what is the real background of a fat afrasian man who lives in a little town in New England????
Even worse is that enormous trope of lost “white nationalists” who started to follow that shaboo goys thinking they are allies..
https://mobile.twitter.com/JayMan471/status/1357282134805909507
Am I banned again?
Wait, PP is multiracial? I always imagined him as a nerdy white guy.
Are you kidding??
Autism test
He’s a nerdy, “genetically superior” hapa guy I assume.
I believe he identified as Caucasian a while ago but that could mean Indian.
Pumpkin, this is some material from the 170 IQ person I knew at Kurzweil forum.
I was wondering if you could make it a guest post and give commentary. thanks 🙂
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19jsz9sOt4N1UoKy-3ptFOxYNfjC5Zu21?usp=sharing
So explain to me what im allowed say and what I am not because about 99% of my comments arent going thyrough
PP what is the highest possible raven’s matrices score and what IQ does it correspond to (SD = 15).
It depends whether it’s the standard or advanced version & whether it’s given with or without a time limit & what age, but it’s probably around +2.33 to +2.5 SD for young adults
So about 1 in 100/1 in 150 and it can’t distinguish between 1 in 100 (/1 in 150) vs 1 in 1000.
I’m waiting on PP’s next article to shill Kevin Bird’s recently-published article showing a lack of selection on genes associated with education in GWA studies. Would love the thoughts of the denizens of PP’s blog – and PP himself of course.
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RR
Provide a COMPLETELY PERSONAL EXPLANATION i mean with YOUR OWN WORDS about this libcraft.
Just that way to prove that you understood…
Do you knew this toxic belief in absolute equality among human beings has harm people specially black people more than help them???
The only people I’ve ever talked to that think is there is no variation in humans were right wing nut jobs trying to pretend all life outcomes were because of choices one made.
I don’t know what you mean by “libcraft.”
If you understood the basics of what Kevin charlatan said you could enlight us your learning but only if your own words. But i know you can’t. Interestingly old RR was completely different because he always would write with his own words whatever if correct or not.
Kevin is a typical pseudo scientist who has a very good TECHNICAL or SPECIFIC knowledge on his field, difficult one, genetics, but use it to overrationalize his own cognitive dissonance (RR and his “sarcasm” will be the likely answer). Pseudo specially about these sensible topics and it seems one of his main research’s field. What he does is similar to what PP does about her favorite topic in the world, Oprah.
RR is just another stupid white male who use philosophy’s label to feed his own ego. No matter the side of ideological spectrum you are, fool anyway.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/half-of-us-have-brains-that-aren-t-entirely-male-or-female-and-it-s-a-good-thing-too/amp
I bet you will “agree” with this very suspiciously designed research above…
RR were you ever bundled into the back of a van and forced to watch Oprah over and over again?
I don’t watch that garbage.
Then why do you have all her opinions?
Bingo.
Which opinions of hers do I have? Can you quote her then quote me?
Puppy what are your thoughts on indoor landscaping?
Is this allowed?
This is what you’ve reduced me to.
Lmao
If oprah was white would you still like her so much puppy?
The point is she’s arguably the biggest brained black & biggest brained woman & was the World’s only black billionaire & the most influential woman on the planet. You’d have to be an idiot to not get how fascinating that is. Frankly I deserve the Nobel prize for discovering this
How narcissistic and delusional do you have to be to compete with PP? Wondering bc i wanna get on his level.
PP fail to understand that because we live in idiocratic societies, she is one of the most influential woman “in the world” (you mean USA and Canada) based fundamentally on cheap entertainment and not by any really qualitative intellectual, cultural or concrete achievements. Sorry, PP. I know it is your favorite mental gymnastics.
”Frankly I deserve the Nobel prize for discovering this”
Nobel Peace is yours.
wbether you think her show was good is not the point; the point is oprah is a metaphor for our species. Despite having every disadvantage (poor, fat, abused, black, female ) having the biggest brain helped her become the richest black & most influential woman. Similarly humans had every disadvantage (weak, slow, naked, clawless, fangless) having the biggest brain helped us become the richest & most influential species on the planet
And Oprah is an extreme example of how human intelligence evolved. For 4 million years the big brained primates took the lion’s share of wealth & power & thus kept replacing the smaller brained ones until brain size tripled.
ok….
But if Oprah really had a bigger brain, she should be showing her supreme intelligence in many ways…
”For 4 million years the big brained primates took the lion’s share of wealth & power”
They shared / share resources to survive..
”thus kept replacing the smaller brained ones until brain size tripled.”
I don’t think they replaced smaller brain primates.
But if Oprah really had a bigger brain, she should be showing her supreme intelligence in many ways…
I said she had the biggest brain, not the smartest brain. Not saying her brain size was the most important cause of her success, it’s just very beautiful that for at least a brief period of time, the biggest brain woman was considered the most influential woman & the biggest brained black was considered the only black billionaire. Even if happened by accident, it was still a beautiful display of symmetry & everything lining up perfectly to symbolize the Darwinian struggle that gave rise to our species.
I don’t think they replaced smaller brain primates.
That’s how evolution works. One primate was born with a bigger brain that made him better at exploiting the environment and thus able to replicate his own kind more efficiently.
And yet there are many small brained primates. Wrong again pumpkin
not in the homo genus, which is the point
If that was your point then you should say so instead of using general and vague terms that can be easily misconstrued.
”wbether you think her show was good is not the point”
Objectively…
I’ve never seen.
But it seems to be a typical tvshow for themasses.
”Despite having every disadvantage (poor, fat, abused, black, female ) having the biggest brain helped her become the richest black & most influential woman.”
Being in the right place/right moment was extremely important for her initial success.
This is true for 99% of ”celebrities”.
And humans were in the right place at right time too
Being black and arguably being female are both advantages.
Being a dark skinned black was a disadvantage at least for generations older than late boomers. Being a woman is a disadvantage (look at Hillary failing to win the presidency twice to much less qualified men)
You even admitted it yourself – you wouldn’t be as in the oprah if she was white. So being black is an advantage. Many people think like you. Except for the big brain stuff.
Well being the first of anything is an advantage & she was talented enough to become the first non-white to dominate the talk show industry just like Tiger Woods was talented enough to become the first non-white to dominate golf & Trump was the first open white nationalist to become a huge celebrity. In all three cases, that made them huge icons.
Tiger Woods and Trump actually have talent. All oprah does is talk to people like you would in a bar or a coffee shop. The reason oprah is famous is liberal people like Puppy agonising for blacks to be successful at something to make up for the crime, stupidity and sleaze we generally associate with blacks.
You’d have to be autistic to deny Oprah’s talent. She’s one of the most talented broadcasters of all time. No other talk show host has such a dynamic range of body language, facial expressions, & voice tones. She can make people laugh, cry, feel inspired, and feel enlightened by words of wisdoms. The novelty of being black may have caused a lot of people to check out her show out of curiosity, but her improvisational genius & shrewd marketing is why they watched five hours a week, 52 weeks a year, for 25 years:
You’re also mistaken about her audience being liberals. I’ve seen tons of female Trump supporters say that they used to love her.
My argument is that the novelty of being black got her a spot on tv. Whereas Tiger Woods actually competed since a young age to be a top golfer or trump did with other businessmen in property development.
Oprah had to outcompete tens of millions of other blacks to get her first job on TV paying $22,000 a year.
Trump only had to outcompete his two siblings to get his first job as the head of the $100 million dollar Trump empire.
Trump benefitted a million times more from being a Trump than Oprah benefitted from being black.
You obviously dont know what the word ‘compete’ means. Oprah never directly competed with millions of blacks for a tv role. My guess is she competed with no other black person for that role.
To read news off a TelePrompTer you need a verbal IQ of at least 115 which means 98% of blacks were not even qualified to compete. Once she got her foot in the door, the free market worked its magic.
To quote Daniel Seligman “people who are at the top in American life are probably there because they’re more intelligent than the rest of us”
“To read news off a TelePrompTer you need a verbal IQ of at least 115”
Evidence.
“people who are at the top in American life are probably there because they’re more intelligent than the rest of us”
False. At least only partially true.
Seligman is white??
”Similarly humans had every disadvantage (weak, slow, naked, clawless, fangless) having the biggest brain helped us become the richest & most influential species on the planet”
Your metaphor is ingenious
But it is not based on an accurate and neutral analysis as you have already admitted.
Puppy is too emotional about Oprah to see her for what she is – a magic negro.
She became a “magic Negro” because she was smart enough to become the first black to dominate talk shows & the World’s ONLY black billionaire:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/07/how-donald-trumps-hand-holding-led-to-panicky-call-home-by-theresa-may
LOL
I think he does these things on purpose because hes the king of trolls.
Donald Trump has a sub 95 IQ.
Donald Trump is a gorilla Godzilla monster.
“Working in local media, Winfrey was both the youngest news anchor and the first black female news anchor at Nashville’s WLAC-TV (now WTVF-TV), where she often covered the same stories as John Tesh, who worked at a competing Nashville station. In 1976, she moved to Baltimore’s WJZ-TV to co-anchor the six o’clock news. In 1977, she was removed as co-anchor and worked in lower profile positions at the station. She was then recruited to join Richard Sher as co-host of WJZ’s local talk show People Are Talking, which premiered on August 14, 1978. She also hosted the local version of Dialing for Dollars.[55][56][57]”
I bet you anything the producer in local media that gave her her break was a jew.
In the below video she visits the 3 men who gave her first 3 breaks:
1) her dad gave her first job
2) Another black man gave her first job in broadcasting
3) A white Southerner gave her first job in TV
So in another blow to free market economics and Gene Fama there’s the phenomenon where I can’t get a great graphics card because thousands of cryptocurrency miners are hoarding them to mine ethereum and bitcoin. Bitcoin is exactly like the tulip bubble 500 years ago. Its such a waste of resources and it pisses me off as a gamer.
Yes, it’s amazing how few people talk about how much electricity bitcoin wastes. It uses as much electricity as Switzerland alone.
Puppy whats the libertarian explanation for all this?
there aren’t many jews in nashville pill. especially not during the 70s, 30 years before the hipsters started moving in.
I’m like pp in that I’m genuinely impressed by oprah, even though i generally disagree with what she stands for.
She’s proof that genuine smarts and talent can still potentially get you somewhere, even if you’re not connected.
If Oprah was white she would have died in obscurity probably of a oxycontin overdose in a trailer park. I thought you were against affirmative action?
Oprah was in the right place & time for a black. If she were an equally lucky white she’d be in the right place & time for a white & thus would have been even more successful
Of course I’m against it. I’m not saying race didn’t help her. Her blackness probably helped her a lot starting in the late 80s/early 90s.
A similar white woman would’ve probably snagged a decent corporate/secretarial job.
If oprah were a white woman of equal luck & talent, she would have married Jeff Bezos & walked away with $67 billion
Puppy youre using a circular argument. Youre saying ‘if she had equal luck’ and then youre retrofitting her ‘luck’ to be gigantic because she’s black.
if You changed any pivotal detail about any billionaire they’d be much less successful. If trump were black he’d never have been president because his whole shtick was appealing to white racism
Thats not a counter argument. Thats like saying if money was soap, rich people would have lots of suds.
Youre saying ‘if she had equal luck’ and then youre retrofitting her ‘luck’ to be gigantic because she’s black.
What is luck? Luck is simply unexplained variance. Statistically being black does not increase the odds of success so any positive effect it might have had on her life is by definition luck.
Luck is not an unexplainable variance. Part of reason media helped to create the Oprah myth was exactly because her (continuously sustained) rarity as a big black tv show entertainer. What is the significant difference in quality between the Oprah show and others tv shows ?? If Oprah is really that absolute genius as you are always defending it would be popularly perceived but she is mostly known by her charisma. A genius entertainer and black would not be unnoticed. Liberal media would celebrate her intellectual genius as it does with Neil DeGrasse. Media categorize people all the time. And by media and public perception Oprah is a charismatic and street smart person.
About disadvantages you forgot to say there is her lack of natural good looking. Her improved but still avg good looking is an important component to make the public reflect themselves on her.
I’m not saying she’s a super genius, but she’s about IQ 140. Black NFL player Patrick Wilson has a higher IQ than that & the media doesn’t celebrate that. The media doesn’t gush anyone’s intelligence unless they went to an Ivy League school. And yes, luck is just unexplained variance; a causation we don’t know how to measure yet.
Imeasurable =/= unexplainable
Explained variance are things we know correlate with success (IQ, hard work, education, beauty, connections, health, ambition, greed, evil). Unexplained are just ad-hoc excuses we make up post-hoc but which have not yet been proven to correlate with success (it was the right time & place to be black). Since such explanations can only apply to the person who was in said right place and time, they can never be shown statistically & thus are defined as “luck”.
Based on anything you get, less on real IQ test.
My highest estimation for her is 120. But because IQ has a lot of false positive and noise..
Oprah is in the media. Be an entertainer require more about the intelect than be an athlete.
You’re contradicting yourself.
If Oprah was an avg joey or dumb it would be impossible for her to stay on the media. That’s fair enough. But she is not a big brained genius who makes miracle to stay there. What she does all sucessfull entertainer does but she is the only one in her field: big black tv entertainer. She learned since early age how to follow the unwritten rules of such environment and thrive because her charisma or social skills and also by media support to boost her public notoriety, what’s they do when they promote some people over others. This things happen all the time there. I’m not taking her credits at all.
Again, lucky is explainable. The main difference is that it is can be minimally predictable and based on a sinergy of favorable factors. Lucky through Oprah’s example would be unexplainable only if she was not so good to fullfill the requirements to be a next american media star In that time or also if she had been discovered completely by chance.
She has a fantastic history of overcoming and this is due to her mental resilience and also because she sought, from the beginning, to do what she had showed great talent from an early age, her communication skills.
You’re only looking at her achievements. Her hat size provides independent evidence of genius.
If all we knew about her was that she was a black billionaire, we’d expect her to be smarter than the average white college grad.
If all we knew about her was that she was a black with an XXXXXXXX large hat size, we’d expect her to be smarter than the average white college grad.
But we know she is BOTH, so we should expect her to be smarter than the average white Harvard grad.
So Im playing through the battle of chuvash cape in AOE3 and I can’t understand why the russians would bother to conquer siberia seeing as there is nothing in it (at least back in the 1500s oil and coal weren’t big things back then).
About the Piketty thesis (I don’t remember where those comments where 😊) :
The consortium of newspapers that published the « Panama papers » has just published a report where they have documented that Luxembourg has 55k businesses and trusts with a value of 6,5 trillion. Meaning an average value of 130 million per business.
Owners are at 90% from outside the European Union and represent 157 nationalities among them all.
As for French, they are 17k persons.
The official top 400 fortunes in France (via Forbes correspondent for the wealth estimation) starts at 205 million in total
Wealth.
So if French aren’t different from average structure value and the distribution of hidden wealth is not strongly different – that is more spread – from the distribution of known wealth*, we could have 8500 people with more than 130 millions.
If the structure is similar as the known wealth in France, you would have 4500 people above 205 millions. So you would have at least 10 times the known number.
That’s a first step in Piketty thesis verification
*This hypothesis is a reasonable one because probably it’s more difficult to have stealth billionnaires, a fortiori decabillionnaires, than people with 50-500 millions hiding their wealth. So the hidden average is probably closer to the hidden median than the open one. Even if some head of states – like Putin – may have 50 billions hidden there, given the Number of owners, 55k of wich 17k are French, it wouldn’t have much impact on the different averages. A person with 51 billions would just add 3 million to the average .
Probably more will be published later about this trove by the consortium as they did with Panama papers.
Those figures have to be taken cautiously because journalist are very bad with figures.
For exemple when they say 90% are not from EU, they don’t say if it’s nationalities in wich case it’s meaningless, or 90% of the owners , in wich case it should be French excluded as they represent 30% themselves…
I have spotted at least 10 inconsistencies in the article in Le Monde …
I would be careful ascribing those 17k with ‘French’ nationality. I bet many of these are africans or dual citizens. Also the distribution of trust holdings would most likely not be normal and you can’t equivocate it with an individual. I would guess 80% of the trusts/ltd co’s hold little or nothing and 20% hold the majority with an even lesser number of direct owners/shareholders behind this proportion.
According to the Treasure Islands book by Shaxson 1/3 of the world’s wealth is offshore (and therefore unaudited) and you can make an assumption that mainly the top 1% of the world uses these types of vehicles to hide fortunes. My guess is that either existing fortunes are severely undervalued by Forbes, or that the requirement to be in the world’s top 1% should be much higher.
You just don’t get it Bruno. If you had access to the central bank printing press would you bother printing $50b and putting it into a bank account? Putin doesn’t need to stockpile money like that if he owns the central bank.
This is why I would speculate there is a hidden class of people in some countries, maybe even some ‘modern’ ones that are basically like a feudal elite with direct access to the printing press and therefore, the population being their debt serfs.
And such people are better described as the most powerful not the most wealthy. Indeed Putin was #1 on Forbes most powerful list even though he’s not even in their top 1000 richest
Exactly, being wealthy is basically a video game score to the people with real power over the money supply. Most of the world’s currencies are tied to nothing or to other fiat currencies.
This is why I agree with some libertarians that we should think about abolishing central banks and linking money to gold if its true that we’re secretly ruled by these types of elites.
There is a book which purports to explain the founding of the federal reserve as exactly this type of arrangement which is why Andrew Jackson was so against it and why he survived assassination attempts.
Interesting .
One problem with this thesis – we may have already discussed this – is that in the EU, all euro countries accepted to transfer the printing money to the central bank and national central bank only print coins more or less freely.
It had a practical impact. It is well know that people working in Secretary and minsters cabinet were paid with printed cash as many other people working in leadership roles. Some CEO were given cash to appease labour Union people « it was called to mollify social relationship ».
Why would have a cast based on such a power had accepted to give it away if it were so central to real power ?
Pumpkin, can you link me that study of South African bilinguals?
https://pumpkinperson.com/2019/09/26/iq-in-sub-saharan-africa/
Why are there like no studies out there which compare verbal IQs of monolinguals to bilinguals, at least I can’t find many.