Commenter antjuanfinch runs a web site where one can take IQ tests that are fun and well programmed (though the norms may need revising). In the real World, antjuanfinch is a twenty-something African American who despite growing up in poverty with mentally ill parents, ended up at the most prestigious university on the planet: Harvard.
Recently, antjuanfinch was mysertiously offered a chance to take the WAIS-IV (4th edition of the Wechsler adult intelligence scale) for free and in the age of covid, this was taken on-line. atjuanfinch self-reported his scaled scores on each of the subtests which I posted below, along with index scores and full-scale IQ I calculated from the manual (which in some cases differed slightly from what atjuanfinch reported).
It should be noted that the scaled scores are expressed on a scale where the U.S. mean for each age group is 10 (SD 3) and the index scores/full-scale IQ use a scale where the U.S. mean for each age group is 100 (SD 15). Thus to convert the scaled scores to IQ equivalents, simply multiply by 5 and add 50. In the third column, scores are adjusted for the fact that the WAIS-IV norms were 16-years-old at the time of testing and these norms (at least in the short-term) tend to become inflated by the equivalent of a few IQ points a decade though this might be an over-correction since the Flynn effect may have stagnated or even reversed in recent years. We’ll have a better idea when the WAIS-V is released.scores before Flynn effect adjustments | adjusted for the Flynn effect | |
Vocabulary (word knowledge) | 19 | 17.73 |
Similarities (verbal abstraction & thought organization) | 19 | 18.11 |
Information (long-term memory & environmental awareness) | 12 | 11.36 |
Matrices (visual pattern recognition) | 16 | 15.24 |
Visual Puzzles (spatial reasoning) | 14 | 13.62 |
Figure Weights (quantitative comparison) | 15 | 14.24 |
Digit Span (rote memory & attention) | 14 | 13.62 |
Letter number sequencing (mental math) | 14 | 13.62 |
Coding (rapid eye-hand coordination) | 11 | 10.75 |
Symbol Search (visual scanning) | 14 | 13.75 |
Verbal comprehension index | 141 | 134 |
Perceptual Reasoning index | 129 | 125 |
Working Memory index | 122 | 119 |
Processing speed index | 114 | 114 |
Full-scale IQ | 135 | 130 |
The results show that atjuanfinch is a man of very superior intelligence. His full-scale IQ of 130 exceeds that of 98% of Americans his age and is even above of the average of his fellow students at the World’s most prestigious university.
Comparison with Billy
It is interesting to compare his WAIS-IV scores to those of Billy, another brilliant black commenter on this blog. To better illustrate the comparison, I used the five index scores of the WISC-V (most recent Wechsler for children) rather than the four-factor model used by the most recent adult Wechsler.
Billy | antjuanfinch | |
---|---|---|
verbal crystallized | 145+ | 134 |
spatial | 118 | 118 |
non-verbal conceptual | 140 | 128 |
working memory | 125 | 119 |
processing speed | 111 | 114 |
It is interesting how both of these men have the same profile: verbal crystallized > non-verbal conceptual > working memory > spatial > processing speed. Coincidence? Both these men are brilliant blacks and brilliant folks by definition are high in g (general intelligence factor) and thus tend to do best on the most g loaded indexes. Verbal and conceptual tests tend to be the most g loaded, while processing speed is the least g loaded so smart people tend to be unexceptional there. Processing speed is also a problem for those who are neuro-atypical which is common among this blog’s commenters though there’s no evidence these two commenters are in that camp.
In addition, blacks tend to do better on verbal as opposed to spatial tests, perhaps because their ancestors never left the tropics so there was less natural selection for the spatially demanding skills needed to survive ice age winters (building shelter, sewing tight figure hugging clothes, making fire, hunting mammoths). A similar cognitive difference evolved between the sexes, with men doing hunting and today scoring better on spatial tests.antjuanfinch’s mother
It’s interesting that atjuanfinch reports his mother’s IQ as being 102. Given the 0.45 parent-offspring IQ correlation, and the fact that the average African American has a WAIS-IV IQ of 87.7, we’d expect atjuanfinch’s mother to have an IQ of:
[atjuanfinch’s IQ – (U.S. black mean)](parent-off spring correlation) + black mean [130 – 87.7](0.45) + 87.742.3(0.45) + 87.7
107 (only 5 points from the score atjuanfinch reported).
You just don’t get it puppy. Oprah is your magic negro. You won’t accept the reality of her situation and you keep ascribing these almost supernatural powers to her. She was chosen. Its obvious. If she was white she would have lived and died in poverty and nobody would have heard of her.
Idiot! You get chosen for specific jobs. No one gets chosen to be a billionaire. Saying Oprah was chosen makes about as much sense as saying Tiger Woods was chosen. Saying she’d be less successful if she were white is meaningless because virtually EVERY successful personality, from Trump to Martha Stewart, would be much less successful if you changed their race because a huge part of success in those fields is the luck of being the right person (including race) at the right time & place. Lightning doesn’t strike twice so if you change a crucial ingredient, you ruin whatever magical recipe sparked their success.
However statistically, being black is NOT an economic advantage but brain size is, so crediting her super-human success to a trait as common as blackness while ignoring her super-human hat size shows PROFOUND stupidity. It’d be like crediting Nikolai Valuev’s boxing success to his Orthodox Christianity while ignoring his seven foot height.
“No one gets chosen to be a billionaire.”
WRONG
Just as some libertarians are so autistic they think the free market almost 100% determines winners and losers, pill is so schizophrenic he thinks Jews almost 100% pick winners and losers.
Autistics are systemizes so they look for systemic explanations for events (randomness, markets) while schizophrenics are mentalizers so they explain all events as part of master plan.
So just as a slightly-autistic scientist would say humans are the most successful animal because we have the biggest brains, semi-schizo religious people would say humans are the most successful because we were chosen by God.
I’m like the scientist saying Oprah is successful because of her huge brain and pill is like the religious person saying “no she was chosen by God”.
Except for pill, God = Jews.
Pill admits he schizophrenic which means by definition he’s delusional.
Doing God’s work..
Thanks
Who would be this scientist??
Big brains don’t make things..
Melo is not autistic but is very limited from an intellectual standpoint. As someone who stands by the CIA’s findings that Russia hacked the 2016 election, Melo demonstrates inferior social intelligence and common sense. Loaded is even worse. Sadly, loaded is a self admitted retard who admits to being in the country illegally and hating whites even though he lives among them illegally.
Both of these people are the bottom of the totem pole.
Pill how many times do I have to remind you that youre a schizophrenic meaning your imagination runs wild and you make theoretical assumptions about the nature and status of people based on his own self-projections.
Everything you say is something you feel internally thus creating a need to say it. In no point in time have I said I was an immigrant even an illegal one at that. I was born in the country I live in now and [redacted by pp, dec 11, 2020]
You have a horrible attitude to your host country. Youre an example of why all illegals need to be deported immediately.
I’m actually shocked that Philo still doesn’t know what “Russiagate” is.
Maybe Oprah can be described as a “psychotic savant” because her enhanced social skills.
Politics and entertaiment worlds are very alike, oftentimes one is an extension of other. Oprah is for entertaiment what Merkel has been for politics. No matter what is their overall IQ. Both have excell on their respective department and in places where gender and race are factors to be considered.
Oprah is a typical extroverted and charismatic big black woman but more polite, subtle and strategist.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-imprinted-brain/201004/bruno-bettelheim-psychotic-savant%3famp
That’s one of the many missing points of IQ
IQ is used to compare people but how efficient can be or has been to maximize their intelligence’s use??
Luck is one factor among others. There are lots of actresses and actors who have a sudden hype on cinema industry and disappear after that. From motivation to lack of social skills to build a stable long term career.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/channel-g/202012/measurement-matters
Too much white experts who just can recycle bad ideas.
James Flynn, RIP.
Pumpkin, any information on bilingual verbal IQ underestimate?
Badtaste
TSLA is like oil was until march. you put on positions which are likely to lose. and you lose over and over and over again and then…
you make so much more than all your losses…
TSLA is gonna get whacked…
but when?
deep out of the money put spreads are the best bet…lottery tickets that will pay off eventually.
from a finance theory POV a stock is a variable perpetuity with a “mortality decrement” of bankruptcy, m&a, and going private/LBO.
the only securities with longer duration are 30 or 40 or 50 year zeros.
i heard some bugman in the park today saying, “i work for WFC on the commercial side…blah, blah, … BEAUTIFUL DOG!”
and there was a woman who looked, looked away, looked, looked away, looked, looked away, LOOKED!
…
you have no idea peepee…
nixon did!
the story is nixon made the irish setter popular…
and then nixon was digraced and…
people found out that irish setters are crazy…
^^^ugly compared to my dog.
that’s right!
rich people/investment funds just buy the actual zero(e)s and on margin…and their margin rates are much better than pikers can get.
pay to play…but ZROZ and TMF are ETFs…and cheap as expense ratios go.
Even if it was true that the elite running things needed a “magic negro”, it should be obvious that Oprah is an exceptionally smart black woman. Obviously not everything she’s done or said has been correct or particularly intelligent, but on the whole, she’s incredibly successful.
It’s weird to think she is of average intelligence. Like saying Bill gates or Jeff Bezos just happened to be of average intelligence… Actually much worse given that they had an enormous cash advantage. Of course there is always a degree of luck involved, doesn’t mean intelligence is not involved. It just doesn’t determine every single thing.
Like can you imagine the average sub 100 IQ running a show like that, constantly being on the ball both intellectually and entertaining with interviews and such… Look at any other host and very few are as good.
Pill’s racism is so extreme he can’t imagine a black actually earning their position in society so he assumes Oprah was just handed the #1 talk show in America. In reality she came up through the ranks starting in local black radio in Nashville, then local TV news in Nashville, then local local TV news in Baltimore where she was demoted to a morning talk show to run out her contact.
It was only after she & her co-host turned the local Baltimore talk-show into a local hit that she was offered a solo talk show in Chicago & that was a low budget local show dead last in the ratings
It was only after beating the reigning kings Donahue in local ratings that she got the chance to compete against him nationally
Luck played a role but as my brilliant half-Chinese English teacher used to say “you have to know what to do with luck”
Imagine using black as a noun though
Imagine declining to
I don’t get why we can’t use Negro anymore. It sounds better than black, let alone person of color.
Well I get why, but still I like it more.
Negro is not in english tongue. It’s look very offensive even i’m not english native speaker nor black. Black is perfect to be used. People of color is excessively neutral.
Some words have a heavy historical use. Negro was used by Rushton ancestrals for centuries for pseudo science of phrenology PP has trying ressuscitate here in hx blog.
You just don’t get it puppy. I never said the jews literally picked her up from the ghetto and publicised her to america. I’m saying the jews were waiting for a breakthrough black star to talk and seem like a normal white woman. There may have been hundreds of black women that tried to be famous before Oprah. How many black women talk like oprah? Very rare in my opinion. Once oprah proved herself at a lower level of media, the jews, who were always waiting for a magic negro, then jumped on the oprah bandwagon and rocketed her to fame.
Just like Obama wasn’t chosen from obscurity from Hawaii. The jews had always been looking for a breakthrough black star politician and when Obama came along they closed ranks behind him. Puppy I say this as a person who actually likes Obama and thought he was a good president. [redacted by pp, dec 13, 2020]
You just don’t get it puppy. I never said the jews literally picked her up from the ghetto and publicised her to america.
yeah you did but I’m glad you’ve revised your views into something more rational. The medication is working.
I’m saying the jews were waiting for a breakthrough black star to talk and seem like a normal white woman. There may have been hundreds of black women that tried to be famous before Oprah. How many black women talk like oprah?
Her huge brain allowed her to acquire the speaking skills to get ahead when others of equally deprived backgrounds did not.
Very rare in my opinion. Once oprah proved herself at a lower level of media, the jews, who were always waiting for a magic negro, then jumped on the oprah bandwagon and rocketed her to fame.
More like, once she was already the richest and most popular woman on TV for years, Jews jumped on the bandwagon to help her prolong her status by giving her mostly positive media coverage until she got too powerful for comfort. They did not embrace her immediately; in fact early in her national career a liberal Jewish woman from NY Times magazine wrote a scathing hit piece which Oprah called the most negative thing she had ever read about anyone. Organized Jewry also nearly took her off TV after she did a show on Satanic worship.
And for every Jewish elite that rooted for her, there were thousands of racists who refused to watch her. I know an Indian Oprah fan who refused to watch her for years because she thought “she is black, what knid of show can she have?”. One TV station told her distributors (the King brothers) they could get a better rating with a potato than putting a black woman on TV. You gravely underestimate how much racism was still around in the 1980s.
Just like Obama wasn’t chosen from obscurity from Hawaii. The jews had always been looking for a breakthrough black star politician and when Obama came along they closed ranks behind him. Puppy I say this as a person who actually likes Obama and thought he was a good president.
Obama came along at a time when Jews had much more power and he came up through largely Jewish gatekeepers like Harvard. Oprah by contrast started her career in the early 70s in Gentile run TV stations in Nashville and Baltimore.
And Jews were actually divided on Obama. The right-wing Jews HATED Obama because they thought he was pro-Muslim and many Jews preferred Hillary because she had a proven track record on foreign policy and because they wanted a woman president. It was Oprah’s endorsement of Obama in all important Iowa and South Carolina that the broke the stalemate in Obama’s favor.
Negro was seen by blacks and liberals alike as a term of respect until radical blacktivists began lobbying against its use in the late 60s.
There are thousands of magic whites: talentless or incompetent in media, politics and even in scientific community. Surprinsingly many magic whites (and also of other races but less frequently) on academia score good to high on IQ tests.. those “scientist or philosopher of diploma”… pill like to call “autists”.. majority of hollywood actors are way less talented than theater actors… good (caucasian) looking is their biggest talent.
Oprah is not less competent than majority of whites entertainers. Yes, media love a black or a lgbt entertainer but for majority of cases, luck, social contacts, conformity to agendas//authoritie$ and talent specially to be an entertainer is needed.
The same way media want a smart and charismatic black woman to be used as neoliberal propaganda they also want pretty white people to attract a large audience. And because rarity of black entertainers in mainstream media, Oprah seems have more credit.
a few nights ago i saw this guy on cucker who looked like a hapa. but he said his parents were immigrants from poland and ukraine…tatars, cossacks, kalmyks?
interesting how karpov now looks like a chinaman.
Some central Asians have a fair amount of east asian admixture.
Durr you fucking moron.
she’s pointing at his penis and laughing.
Pumpkin Person, I need recent data. There is a reported rise in spatial scores as you are aware. Do you have contemporary data on my request? For example, fellow testees’ profiles in your possession. Those would make for up-to-date analyses on those issues without confounding. Remember the “Woodley Effect”? It’s easy to be in the woods on these topics today.
Santo youre wrong about danish elites using id pol to distract from their bank accounts. The – insert specific problematic ethnic minority – are actively using id pol to ‘divide and conquer’.
The use of this technique is meant to empower the sovereign to control subjects, populations, or factions of different interests, who collectively might be able to oppose his rule. Niccolò Machiavelli identifies a similar application to military strategy, advising in Book VI of The Art of War (1521)[1] (L’arte della guerra):[2] a Captain should endeavor with every art to divide the forces of the enemy. Machiavelli advises that this act should be achieved either by making him suspicious of his men in whom he trusted, or by giving him cause that he has to separate his forces, and, because of this, become weaker.
Just remember there are many blacks who are woke about jews and identify as muslims. And by woke I don’t mean anti white.
Nazis used the same tactic. Blame the jew but not what is behind any tyranny, from explicit to implicit. Even if is true overwhelming jewish role on historical opression specially with napoleon citizenship emancipation, the essential problem is not the jew… because predatory or parasitical character is not a jewish exclusivity.
Ordinary german people during the 1920’s suffered from humilliating reparations of Versaille treaty imposed by mostly “aryan” fellows + capitalist greedy of german elites…
Nazis
Wait
Blame the communists
The jews
….
Well
Power = / = money
Elites love to use the white racism card to deviate from one factor that really causes poverty and social injustice: social class inequality and itsown top-down parasitism.
The very basic structure of capitalism / materialism is based on smart businessmen who exploit the disorganized masses of individual workers to obtain much of the profit produced by the latter.
Puppy I want you to try for a moment and imagine Oprah as a white woman with the same ghetto background. Do you think she would have been offered a talk show?
she wasn’t offered a talk show in a vacuum. She was demoted from co-anchoring the local evening news and placed as a co-host of a low budget local morning show to run out her contract. To everyone’s shock that morning show became a huge hit, even beating daytime king Donahue in the Baltimore ratings. A producer for that show then got hired to produce a local show competing against Donahue in his hometown of Chicago but that show was a disaster, dead last in the ratings. In act of desperation, she begged Oprah to send an audition tape, thinking if Oprah (and her co-host) could beat Donahue in Baltimore, a solo Oprah could beat him in Chicago.
Oprah sent an audition tape where she said “My name is Oprah, originally named Orpah from the Bible, but no one in my family could spell so it ended up being Oprah”
The station manager’s jaw dropped “who the hell is this woman? That is the best audition tape I have ever seen”
As soon as Oprah took over, the show went from dead last to #1 practically overnight:
If Oprah was white she would have went nowhere. The whole novelty of a magic negro is that its a black person who is talented in a way blacks aren’t thought to be talented. Oprah had a huge inbuilt audience of white liberals and black women. The white liberals being people mostly brainwashed to cheer for a black like some sort of special Olympics athlete.
And if Trump were black & didn’t have daddy’s money, he would have gone nowhere. The whole novelty of a white elite who is politically incorrect launched his political career. He had a huge built in constituency of disenfranchised whites who were waiting for someone to standup to a black president and the browning of America & his special Olympic mistakes reminded them of their own dementia or made them love him like their crazy uncle. Point is we all play the cards we’re dealt but smart people play them better. By most objective metrics Oprah was dealt a losing hand (black, female, poor, dark skinned, overweight) but she was smart & lucky enough to end up in a place where those cards were useful if she could discover the winning strategy.
And I disagree that she would have gone nowhere if white. It was more the novelty of having a woman who wasn’t perfect looking and was honest and humorous about her struggles with dating and dieting that pushed her over the top. Being black helped her win blacks and white libs, but alienated more traditional demographics who watch TV during the day & also alienated the blacks & jews who thought she was ingratiating herself to white women
What world do you live in where being overweight is the result of having been dealt a losing hand?
Autism^^
The point is being overweight *is* a bad hand
sailer goes into some detail about the magic negro phenomenon in america with edward dutton. cue to: 33:22:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/EGuFBQhL0w8A/
sailer observed oprah interacting with the public at an airport in 1980s and said she is the most socially talented person he has ever witnessed in his entire life.
sailer also says in the video you linked to that magic negro effect didn’t start until the 1990s by which time Oprah was already the richest African-American. And the second the magic negro effect started, Oprah shrewdly stopped doing trash TV & started doing wholesome TV so she could benefit from the saintly black stereotype.
Obama benefited FAR more from the magic negro effect than Oprah did (Rush Limbaugh even made song “Barack the magic negro”) and surveyed young people said they voted for him because he was black, and yet even Barack was probably a genius (likely 95 to 98 percentile on LSAT) which proves there was still enough racism that even with these few cultural advantages, blacks STILL generally needed exceptional talent to reach the top
“The point is being overweight *is* a bad hand”
Then eat less and exercise lardass
Puppy you keep going off on tangents about how wonderful she is and won’t answer my simple proposition – if Oprah was white she would have died in obscurity – True or false?
True but irrelevant. If you changed the race of virtually any famous personality they would have died in obscurity because genius is not enough. You must also be the right person at the right time and that includes race.
notice it’s a man’s voice imitating oprah:
Stacey Abrams a poor man’s Aunt Jemima? LMAO.
I have a hard time seeing obama as a genius. But maybe it’s just cuz I hate his supporters.
He either scored above the 95% percentile on the LSAT or below the 63rd percentile (of LSAT takers). Given that he got into Harvard Law, the latter seems unlikely even with affirmative action and a legacy father.
[redacted by pp, dec 14, 2020]
I don’t deny evident strenghts of IQ tests. I’m not RR who think vocabulary size or spatial capabillity are not intelligence facets. But i never will accept that dumb or medíocre people with a score above magical 130 is absolutely smarter than me or than anyone with a lower score.
If you think only things that matter for human intelligence is the difference between a 130 or a 120 score, then you are likely borderline autistic or autist.
So you agree that oprah being white is a dealbreaker. Glad you finally see the light on this.
If she were white she would never have lucked into a black radio gig in high school and thus might never have entered broadcasting.
But if she were an equally brilliant & driven poor white who got EQUALLY LUCKY she’d likely have become even richer.
If your God Mel Gibson were not white he never would have heard of him because he never would have got his break-out role in Mad Max.
If your God Soros were not Jewish, he never would have got his position at a London Merchant bank which led to his billionaire status.
You don’t want to go there with me, pill.
You’ll lose.
You just don’t get it. If Mel Gibson and Soros were black they would be talked about as legends. Can you imagine a black that could actually act and direct movies?? He would be showered with Oscars. As for Soros, if a black was as good as soros at being a hedge fund manager he would be on the cover of every business magazine for 50 weeks in a row.
I agree that super successful blacks are more celebrated than super successful whites, but that’s partly because it was harder for blacks to become super successful in the first place (ceteris paribus), especially black looking blacks born before 1960.
why might a team of the world’s best human chess players beat the world’s single best chess engine? there’s actually a name for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd. i wonder why this hasn’t been tried. it would work like this: the humans wouldn’t communicate with one another. each would submit his move and the move with the majority or plurality would be the human move. this would make blunders impossible. if there were a tie in number of “votes” (the number of humans who recommended a given move), then these two or more moves would be revealed to all the human players. they would consider and vote again. if still a tie then a “coin toss”.
You keep talking about chess alot and don’t see that a board game is merely a low tech version of a computer game.
when a game passes a certain level of complexity it becomes impossible to get anywhere near perfection.
this is a picture of the world as it is in fact, except the red tassels are the tops of egg shells.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/External_Ornaments_of_a_Cardinal_%28not_a_bishop%29.svg
so lee sedol actually beat alpha zero in one game…
and kramnik missed a one move mate vs fritz in 2006…
…………………………………………….
the individual human is only as good as his worst move.
a “crowd sourced” move from the right crowd will NEVER be a bad move. EVER!
but tic-tac-toe is gay and checkers has been gay for a long time…
it’s like: why would you play baseketball instead of baseball or basketball? but baseball is way more complex than indian leg wrestling.
the closest to mugabe’s suggestion he knows of is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasparov_versus_the_World
I have PTSD and disassociation.
That is why all the bad feelings won’t go away.
I thought it was depression or ADD or Anxiety.
But the negative feelings seem permanent even with treatment.
Something different needs to be done starting tomorrow.
dont get too hung up on trying to diagnose urself. The placebo effect is strong and bad when it works against your will.
Feel bad is normal its part of human emotional scope. Just try to see the good side of things too.