Commenter antjuanfinch runs a web site where one can take IQ tests that are fun and well programmed (though the norms may need revising). In the real World, antjuanfinch is a twenty-something African American who despite growing up in poverty with mentally ill parents, ended up at the most prestigious university on the planet: Harvard.
Recently, antjuanfinch was mysertiously offered a chance to take the WAIS-IV (4th edition of the Wechsler adult intelligence scale) for free and in the age of covid, this was taken on-line. atjuanfinch self-reported his scaled scores on each of the subtests which I posted below, along with index scores and full-scale IQ I calculated from the manual (which in some cases differed slightly from what atjuanfinch reported).
It should be noted that the scaled scores are expressed on a scale where the U.S. mean for each age group is 10 (SD 3) and the index scores/full-scale IQ use a scale where the U.S. mean for each age group is 100 (SD 15). Thus to convert the scaled scores to IQ equivalents, simply multiply by 5 and add 50. In the third column, scores are adjusted for the fact that the WAIS-IV norms were 16-years-old at the time of testing and these norms (at least in the short-term) tend to become inflated by the equivalent of a few IQ points a decade though this might be an over-correction since the Flynn effect may have stagnated or even reversed in recent years. We’ll have a better idea when the WAIS-V is released.| scores before Flynn effect adjustments | adjusted for the Flynn effect | |
| Vocabulary (word knowledge) | 19 | 17.73 |
| Similarities (verbal abstraction & thought organization) | 19 | 18.11 |
| Information (long-term memory & environmental awareness) | 12 | 11.36 |
| Matrices (visual pattern recognition) | 16 | 15.24 |
| Visual Puzzles (spatial reasoning) | 14 | 13.62 |
| Figure Weights (quantitative comparison) | 15 | 14.24 |
| Digit Span (rote memory & attention) | 14 | 13.62 |
| Letter number sequencing (mental math) | 14 | 13.62 |
| Coding (rapid eye-hand coordination) | 11 | 10.75 |
| Symbol Search (visual scanning) | 14 | 13.75 |
| Verbal comprehension index | 141 | 134 |
| Perceptual Reasoning index | 129 | 125 |
| Working Memory index | 122 | 119 |
| Processing speed index | 114 | 114 |
| Full-scale IQ | 135 | 130 |
The results show that atjuanfinch is a man of very superior intelligence. His full-scale IQ of 130 exceeds that of 98% of Americans his age and is even above of the average of his fellow students at the World’s most prestigious university.
Comparison with Billy
It is interesting to compare his WAIS-IV scores to those of Billy, another brilliant black commenter on this blog. To better illustrate the comparison, I used the five index scores of the WISC-V (most recent Wechsler for children) rather than the four-factor model used by the most recent adult Wechsler.
| Billy | antjuanfinch | |
|---|---|---|
| verbal crystallized | 145+ | 134 |
| spatial | 118 | 118 |
| non-verbal conceptual | 140 | 128 |
| working memory | 125 | 119 |
| processing speed | 111 | 114 |
It is interesting how both of these men have the same profile: verbal crystallized > non-verbal conceptual > working memory > spatial > processing speed. Coincidence? Both these men are brilliant blacks and brilliant folks by definition are high in g (general intelligence factor) and thus tend to do best on the most g loaded indexes. Verbal and conceptual tests tend to be the most g loaded, while processing speed is the least g loaded so smart people tend to be unexceptional there. Processing speed is also a problem for those who are neuro-atypical which is common among this blog’s commenters though there’s no evidence these two commenters are in that camp.
In addition, blacks tend to do better on verbal as opposed to spatial tests, perhaps because their ancestors never left the tropics so there was less natural selection for the spatially demanding skills needed to survive ice age winters (building shelter, sewing tight figure hugging clothes, making fire, hunting mammoths). A similar cognitive difference evolved between the sexes, with men doing hunting and today scoring better on spatial tests.antjuanfinch’s mother
It’s interesting that atjuanfinch reports his mother’s IQ as being 102. Given the 0.45 parent-offspring IQ correlation, and the fact that the average African American has a WAIS-IV IQ of 87.7, we’d expect atjuanfinch’s mother to have an IQ of:
[atjuanfinch’s IQ – (U.S. black mean)](parent-off spring correlation) + black mean [130 – 87.7](0.45) + 87.742.3(0.45) + 87.7
107 (only 5 points from the score atjuanfinch reported).
Pumpkin Person 
Sometimes I feel like the antjuanfinches of the world too ya know.
Same.
How exactly did you norm this test? I just got a 30/30 and the corresponding IQ is way too high.
tom of finland or cartoons or anime…
my proportions drive non-lesbians crazy.
they always have.
irish setters have freakishly long bodies and on average my dog gets at least one “what a beautiful dog” per day.
in fact, the extremely long body of the irish setter was remarked on by the vet who spayed my late bitch…and this may be the reason irish setters have such large litters…more room for babies.
https://www.ebony.com/love-relationships/mandingo-myth/
You’re probably the least attractive person here. Everything about you screams unsexy.
What do you study? And what was your ACT/SAT?
@HammerJho : The scores on the verbal portion correspond to the rarity of the same raw scores on the verbal SAT portions that were used for this test, during the early 2000s.
The scores on the Non-verbal test correspond to the rarity of correct responses on the item set that was used for that test. These scores were gathered during the last two years and were produced by teenagers and young adults.
i was thinking about why women have thrown themselves at me my whole life, and i thought how i’m not a freak like stedman and i’m thicker than jim morrison…
and how i have a voice like aldo ray…
it’s like if jim morrison was taller and WAY more muscular…
AND a better poet!
WRONG!
my dog’s body is so long that he can’t go for walks or exercise until 2 hours after he’s eaten because tortion.
long legs = lower class.
wow! LOADED’s transformation is like alex jones’s.
it’s interesting how people can become better looking with age and others uglify like brando. but only up to i’d guess age 60. sean connery is the oldest sexiest man alive.
now that everything is woke the sexiest man alive means nothing. it’s just gonna be a bunch of black mexican dudes. but NEVER a NAM dude. there’ll never be a chink or street shitter sexiest man alive.
it’s not like connery got it because he was old.
in 1989 connery was 59.
alex jones…he’s only 4′ tall…so never sexy.
Im still decent-looking just overweight. Im starting to slim down and looking much better as I make progress.
Otoh Mug youve been ugly as fuck from birth. Such a sad journey youve had to endure im sure.
“We bigger than the Jews….We bigger than the Irish!”
Next youre going to say: We were ancient Eygpt.
I dont think that though!
Plus that statement came from the song itself (thought it was an interesting line in the song) so I just decided to reiterate it though I dont believe it applies to all blacks just the ones with high enough intelligence and conscientiousness to succeed in this ruthless world.
IQ question
Is PP black??
no
what’s your race
Half german half east asian, I feel
PP’s silence or inconsistent answer is already an answer. It’s easy to say
Just reading the Economist. These “free market” losers just don’t get what the point of a country is. If something needs to be done, print the money and force people to do it. Only an autistic libertarian who is socially maladaptive could object to this.
Neoliberal microecon is generally OK imo. Macro is when it goes off the rails (unlimited free trade, no tariffs, Taylor rule, mass immigration, etc.)
Setting floors and ceilings is sometimes a good thing (i.e. price gouging laws, minimum wage) but messing with the market mechanism too much can be a complete disaster. Supply and Demand are laws for a reason.
The big logical fallacy libertarians make is assuming that a policy that works best in a completely “free” society should be implemented in a mixed economy like the U.S.
Yeah, in some hellscape with no economic regulations, a minimum wage law or rent control might be counterproductive.
But in a mixed economy where the cost of living is inflated by red tape, abolishing the minimum wage or allowing landlords to charge whatever they want is a horrible idea.
Complex societies don’t survive with minimal State. Otherwise, more complex society is more regulated it must be. The big problem is the kind of people who regulate it.
A complex social organism is like a vertebrated biological organism. A free market ideology it’s like human without skulls.
Star wars and another scientific fiction movies that represents futuristic views of how human society is a good examples about this logic of “complexity require more regulation”.
Feemarketeers want to convince us that it’s best way to produce wealth but how about distribute it?? One of the reasons why socialist nations specially in former east euro bloc had lower unemployment rates is probably the same as for mostly social democracies in Scandinavia, the State (public jobs) size.
Freemarketeers practice the mental gymnastics of capitalism, trying to diversify their reasons and arguments to defend their ideologies which can be summarized grossly but precisely by this gentle sentence: “i want to be rich by your naive help, my employees”.
Good post! I have two questions: 1) How much g-loaded is the Raven’s Advanced Progressive Matrices test? 2) A friend of mine who got into Mensa said that time was a very important factor in the examination. Might that mean that the Mensa test (at least in Greece) is not very g-loaded?
a bit off topic but could u convert the visual memorization section to IQ on the humanbenchmark website? I was curious because I saw you convert reaction time to IQ but there were many factors involved like input lag and monitor response time.
Didn’t even know they had a memory section
Not sure if jonny means this one : https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/memory
but if so, YES, I’d like that too, because my curiosity is stronger that my knowing that I suck at it and the score would make me sad haha
would also love to see this, cos for some reason I can score freakishly high on the visual and verbal memory test but my digit span is completely average.
The christmas spirit is inebriating isnt??
https://9gag.com/gag/aP75njQ
“Narrative of big media” ?
I appreciate the article and analysis. I was unaware that my cognitive profile, in some ways, is stereotypically black. It’s also possible that I misremembered my Mom’s scores (but not my own), and that her IQ is actually even closer to 106.
BLACK POWER
Sounds kind of racist. Would you say “white power”?
Wtf. This guys a complete [redacted by pp, dec 8, 2020] Please dont delete my comment Pumpkin. if you have to just redact the slur itself but i wanna send the message to this pathetic punk of a human that what he says wont go unchecked.
I haven’t said anything but just asked if he’d flip the race before “power” to anything but black, and if he wouldn’t that’s evidence of hypocrisy and probably some type of racism.
Or if it’s not black supremacy it’s bigotry of low expectations, congratulating a POC everytime they do something intelligent.
Anyway it doesn’t belong on this article, it kind of brings the whole thing down to a petty tribal level.
Sorry if I hurt you by saying this.
I accept your apology.
White people probably should be more tolerant of historically oppressed groups having a bit more leeway with language and overt racial pride. Where it gets toxic is when people expect Whites to relinquish their group interests entirely.
This is the dumbest conversation in the world.
Which explains why you joined it
Isn’t it a bit suspicious that every time you do a IQ extrapolation/estimation you are only a few points away from true value? Just from doing this so many times, there should be a few times where you’re wildly off-mark.
well there’s probably a bias in that I’m more likely to mention the estimates that prove correct. For example, if antjuan’s mom had an IQ way different from statistically expected, I might not have even mentioned her
“”””probably””””
I always took these as fun exercises to spark the imagination, and let people speculate on the accuracy of certain methods of ascertaining IQ. I never took the number to be a specific estimate, but more just something that the reader can chew on.
After all, there are mutations which can always occur, and if IQ was as easy to extrapolate as PP shows then I’d think we’d see many many more people HBD aware.
Pumpkin Person
This is a very interesting observation! I am indeed delighted. I would love to contrast these profiles with those of a couple of White testees of 1) similar full-scale IQs, and 2) similar spatial scores only. Do you have them? Perhaps those would spark stimulating conversations. Thanks!
Bad manners pp. Give responses to questions addressed to you.
Sorry super busy. This may help answer your question
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1983-25391-001
“In addition, blacks tend to do better on verbal as opposed to spatial tests, perhaps because their ancestors never left the tropics so there was less natural selection for the spatially demanding skills needed to survive ice age winters (building shelter, sewing tight figure hugging clothes, making fire, hunting mammoths). A similar cognitive difference evolved between the sexes, with men doing hunting and today scoring better on spatial tests.”
What about Papuans and Australians tho, don’t they have a non-verbal > verbal type of profile instead? They’ve been living in tropics for the last tens of thousands of years as well, or at least most of their ancestry has been. The verbal vs non-verbal profile on large population levels might have something to do with archaic admixture.
What about Papuans and Australians tho, don’t they have a non-verbal > verbal type of profile instead?
I don’t think so. There was one study that found one type of Autsralian aboriginals had good visual memories but that’s not spatial ability per se. PISA research suggests their math IQs are slightly lower than their verbal ones.
But these groups had to leave the tropics to get to Oceania & may have needed some spatial IQ to cross the ocean to Australia
Usually, the commonly stated IQ for Australians is around 60. And you list here: https://pumpkinperson.com/2020/10/26/hardcore-cross-cultural-iq-testing/
listed their non-verbal scores as being in 70s and 80s. So I just figured that their verbal IQ was taking them down to 60.
According to Richard Lynn’s analysis of many studies, Australian aboriginals have a median verbal and visualization IQ of 62 and 68 respectively. But despite Lynn’s many great insights, his research (at least in old-age) is statistically sloppy and error prone, and the relatively low verbal IQ of Australoids might be explained by language differences:
https://theconversation.com/10-ways-aboriginal-australians-made-english-their-own-128219
Lynn cites a study where hybridized Australoids adopted by whites scored around the white average on a vocabulary test even though they scored below it on most of the Piagetian tests. However they were children and it’s likely their verbal IQs would have declined in adulthood as IQ becomes more genetic.
But as I mentioned, one study did find that desert Australoids have strong visual memories which Lynn notes is analogous to the strong visual memories found in Inuit since in both the desert and the frozen tundra, you need to recall subtle spatial details to find your way around.
So what would be the brain allocation differences between spatial memory and nonverbal ability?
[b]***I am trying to recall shit that I read about a while back and extrapolating stuff from it. Considering the absolute state of my memory and verbal abilities I might recall some things wrong, and my verbal abstraction is going to be shit, so feel free to correct me***[/b]
I’ve been thinking about something pp, through random genetic recombination, an offspring can have different trait outcomes in comparison to the parents because of reshuffling. But because most of the DNA is junk, this would usually happen in places that wouldn’t matter. However, occasionally it could be in places like intelligence coding genes which could result in combinations which will differ from the parents. If we took a male and a female, extracted their DNA in a some bank which then produced different combinations of their DNA for millions of trials (effectively having millions of children) then some of them would just genetically end up with trait combinations quite different from their parents on different trait categories, right? This would apply to not just intelligence but other traits like body mass, height, etc. (Some of which do have correlations with intelligence).
But of course, this isn’t realistic and people don’t have millions of kids. However, if you took millions of regular couples, and observed the genetic outcomes among their offspring then there would be some cases where the children don’t resemble their individual parents in some traits because of the reshuffling and it couldn’t just be explained by environmental differences. Could this logic explain the rare cases of prodigies and just in general very high IQ children being born to not so high IQ parents, as well as the unfortunate very low IQ children being born to otherwise normal parents?
And one last extrapolation: this differing outcome because of the reshuffling: could it be plotted like a bell curve distribution (with skews) with the less differing outcomes being more common than the more differing outcomes?
Specific mutational load/charge seems explain larger phenotypical variation within families.
how g-loaded is super mario brothers?
“Processing speed is also a problem for those who are neuro-atypical which is common among this blog’s commenters”
g is about holding a model in one’s head and manipulating it.
Processing Speed is the least g loaded because PS does not the size of the model.
PS * g = IQ
Here is mine
0.89 * 1.27 = 1.13
Blacks arent more socially intelligent theyre just more aggressive and extroverted, willing to take risks to get what they want at a more extreme rate. Asians arent more socially intelligent either theyre just conformists and can thus find their social niche easily.
Big Five is an honest measure of social intelligence and everyone knows blacks are neurotic as shit that Asians arent keen to openness and show no affinity for extroversion.
They’re more socially intelligent. A black person can have a 70IQ and not look retarded. Its natures way of saying he can get by on social interaction.
i just put a nuke in your mangina rr.
are you man enough to fight back?
or are you a stupid albanian who can never be made?
Yes, I have an above average neurotic OCEAN profile.
with the urbanization of africa it is now 100% apodictically clear that hypertension among african americans is NOT due to vit d defficiency or to something albanians made up…
but this doesn’t mean high bp is “genetic”.
the high bp of some eastern europeans on the other hand…
can be attributed to alcoholism.
i’ve read karpov was a boozer.
interesting he played best at age 43 at the 1994 linares tournament…from a purely stats POV he may have been the best chess player of all time in that tournament.
or so says wikipedia.
i am mug of pee
haha i have big brain
i make random meaningless comment about nothing
i no have attention span
i no can english speak
i am dum dum
the point is karpov is now famous for one thing…
losing to kasparov/kasparian/weinstein.
this is GAY!
karpov is…maybe…the best ever…at his best…
only his hero capa and his queen’s pawn dybbuk petrosian outgrabe him.
Let us say the game may be continued in two ways: one of them is a beautiful tactical blow that gives rise to variations that don’t yield to precise calculations; the other is clear positional pressure that leads to an endgame with microscopic chances of victory…. I would choose [the latter] without thinking twice. If the opponent offers keen play I don’t object; but in such cases I get less satisfaction, even if I win, than from a game conducted according to all the rules of strategy with its ruthless logic.[30]
Damn
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bet.com/music/2020/12/02/eric-clapton-van-morrison-collaboration-resurfaces-racist-rant-from-1976.amp.html
How dare you, Clap?
https://images.app.goo.gl/4zQHS4jMtfbgY3uJA
Loaded do you wish you were black?
Puppy do you wish you were black?
No but you do. You compared it to winning the lottery.
Being a black person in a western country is winning the lotto relative to all black people.
But not compared to white Americans & certainly not compared to purple ones
It all depends. Being a talented black raised in a good environment is probably akin to winning the lottery, relative to a similar white. You can pretty much go to any university and get any corporate job you want. I know a couple such blacks from my high school who got into way better unis than me despite having worse test scores and IQs 15+ points lower than mine.
But a high school educated black from the hood isn’t going to do as well as a high school white.
I think the statistical term for what you’re describing is an interaction. Where the relationship between X (race) and Y (success) depends on the level of X. Those are the exception, not the rule. Even at IQ levels as high as 120, Murray found no evidence of blacks out-earning whites. Although controlling for IQ blacks do have an advantage in occupational status (i.e. Obama) but whites have a big advantage in avoiding jail & escaping poverty (though this might be because of generational wealth).
A good way of looking at it might be that dark skin alone per se is normally useful, but the things that tend to come with it generally aren’t.
I think black culture is a bigger culprit than their lack of wealth.
Do you mean dark skin or African appearance? Indians are dark skinned. And actually among blacks it seems to be the light skinned ones that benefit most. There’s also this:
We chose field experiments as a sample because they are widely regarded as the most valid method to assess discrimination. They generally come in two major types: Résumé audits, done through the mail or online, submit fictitious résumés with equivalent qualifications and ethnically identifiable names. And in-person audits — done with trained pairs of testers, white and nonwhite — have participants apply for jobs. By examining the rates of callbacks, or invitations to job interviews, for white and nonwhite applicants with equivalent qualifications, these studies provide high-quality measures of rates of discrimination in hiring.
Broadly, our meta-analysis of callback rates from all existing field experiments showed evidence of discrimination against both black and Latino applicants. Since 1990 white applicants received, on average, 36% more callbacks than black applicants and 24% more callbacks than Latino applicants with identical résumés.
African appearance. And I’m really skeptical of studies that purport to show widespread discrimination like that. I’m willing to change my mind, but HR departments are the shitlibbiest places on the planet in my experience.
Yes but a lot of those same white liberals have no black friends, do not let their kids attend black schools, would never date a black guy and would prefer to work with other white libs.
Yeah I feel like if you pronounce ‘ask’ correctly as a black guy, you can relatively easily get into broadcasting or on the board of directors somewhere to fill a token quota. It’s much, much more disadvantageous to be a working-class White than a middle-class Black in the real world. ‘Elite’ liberals DESPISE working-class Whites nowadays (unless they’re LGBTQIA+), so they’re doing nearly everything in their power to undermine and replace them under the pretext of ‘social justice.’ I can honestly get behind affirmative action to an extent, but people need to grow up and realize that it’s mostly about feel-good posturing and not meritocracy or true benevolence. As you said, these people will preach the merits of diversity yet for the most part want nothing to do with minorities unless they’re not a threat to their own resources/positions.
It’s much, much more disadvantageous to be a working-class White than a middle-class Black in the real world.
Yes but holding class & everything else constant, blacks are likely more disadvantaged, at least very black looking blacks, at least until recently.
Conservs are those who make humanity look exceptionally bad.
A true eugenics must take into account these creepiesillies, very seriously.
Without the expurge of these devil, humanity wont survive from or with the next third (white) world war…
://youtu.be/pi-NctDl6ik
Stare decisis is nothing more than a shell game to control the goyim. The latest transgender suit is yet another example of this.
“Precedent” only ever goes one way.
So you let him say goyim and I’m not allowed?
He answered my questions by email. You have not
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/09/fourth-official-psg-istanbul-basaksehir-10-match-ban-if-guilty-racism
Jesus christ imagine if you actually said something “race-ist” to these people. Their heads would explode.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/08/millwall-qpr-championship-match-report
So youre not allowed to boo the taking of the knee in english soccer but you can boo the knee in NFL where the gesture originated. Great. English media and establishment is a bunch of soaking wet pussies.
Personally I would boo the taking of the knee.
If Chris Langan started commenting here and saying the same points I make, would you moderate those?
Nope.
yep.
the EASIEST of the 4 IQ test questions…
for people with autism it’s impossible/the hardest.
Mug what is wrong with you?
Are you that stupid or is it part of a grand troll where you expose yourself as a homosexual?
Yes.
So Santo I see Jair Bolsinaro’s approval rating is high now after he handed money to the poor. What a guy. Its my belief our leaders should represent the population morally and not just based on title. The only blemish seems to be the corruption his sons do.
Stupid as a hell. Do you have no shame to be yourself or still there is a tiny fraction of reason on you??
Your lack of character make you incapable to recognize real human qualities starting from yourself…
Theres a new The Secret book out. I bet Oprah will be reccomending it soon like the last one. Oprah is very intelligent. Thats why she reads thrash lit. THAATTH MATTTH SENTTH!
Her overall IQ is 140 but her math IQ is as mediocre as yours & thus can be quite irrational. Also, high social IQ people might be a bit schiz so they over-mentalize, causing them to believe the universe has meaning. She’s also a master-manipulator who knows what sells & how to use her rags to riches story to market simplistic self-help mantras
Oprah IQ 140???
Someone already explained that “logic” =/= mathematics. Maths is derived from logic. That’s the difference. She is more irrational (like a typical person) because she lacks of courage to face reality as it is (godless).
peepee makes shit up and then declares it as fact once again.
oprah’s IQ is below 100 on any and all IQ tests.
i gurantee.
You guarantee? Are you willing to put money on that?
If someone as successful and big brained as Oprah has an IQ below 100, then IQ is meaningless.
idiot!
of course i’d put money on it.
oprah is an ENTERTAINER…
ENTERTAINER…
ENTERTAINER…
she has a VERY DISTINCT VOICE…
+ she’s evil.
that’s IT!
the electrician in my house right now would score higher than oprah on every IQ test i expect.
Some of the greatest minds in human history were entertainers. Shakespeare was the oprah of his time.
Your electrician probably has a higher spatial IQ than Oprah but lower verbal, social & memory.
So if Oprah’s combined SAT scores are ever made public & are 770+ (IQ 100+ in her day) you will pay pal me $200 USD?
not olny $200 but 100 big macs.
100 Big Macs would be even better except they’d be cold by the time I got them.
How about you pay me $1 USD for every point above 770 Oprah scored on the SAT and I pay you $1 USD for every point below.
But Mug of Pee will not take the bet! It’s good to know he’s not dumb enough to believe his own bullshit.
770 on the composite? that would mean she was retarded.
i will pay you enough to buy 100 big macs if oprah scored over 500 on either the verbal or the quantitative XOR above whatever the mean score was on each. it may’ve been less than or greater than 500 when oprah took it.
The mean in her day (if you include the estimated scores of American teens who did not take the test) was about 368 V and 402 M, thus equating to IQ 100 for verbal and math respectively. So you will pay me enough to buy 100 Big Macs if she scored above IQ 100 on either Verbal or Math?
no it wasn’t. you just made that up.
stop lying.
mug of pee literally can’t stop making a fool of himself:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/01/25/rare-sat-data/
admit that you just LIED or no big macs.
https://blog.prepscholar.com/average-sat-scores-over-time
your source lists average SAT scores for those who take the SAT which is an elite sample that does not reflect the scores if all American teens were tested.
Also, the pre-1995 scores have been converted to the re-centred scale thus increasing them.
I wonder what Ron Paul does these days. Donald Trumps ideas on borders and trade are the antithesis of lolbertarianism and 95% of republicans support trumpism. I guess the guys at the Mercatus Centre and Reason magazine go back to analysing license plate patterns on passing cars.
Elon Musk says hes a libertarian. I’m pretty certain he read Ayn Rand and thought he was the main character in Atlas Shrugged. Musk is an objectively brilliant guy but if hes a libertarian thats like saying you are a PhD in Theoretical Physics but you literally believe in the Bible/Torah/Vedas.
Even Ayn Rand thinks right Libertarianism is retarded and that’s saying something.
everyone is a libertarian except libertarians.
libertarians equate liberty with absence of government.
because autism they can’t imagine that government can increase freedom.
no one likes “big government”. no one likes officious officials. but government is the only means of solving the “collective action problem” and preventing the “tragedy of the commons”.
I was thinking about going back to college and doing a philosophy degree but I’m worried the teachers will be retarded like my economics ones were and recommend analytical philosophy readings. I think I might even have more respect for scholastics as a philosophical school because analytical philosophy is a category error (its not philosophy).
I’m not going to name the free marketing economics professor I debated as a 21 year old in his office and told him his ideas were terrible and weren’t logical. But academia is full of people that don’t know how to reason.
some catholic unis offer medieval/scholastic philosophy as a major. iirc queen’s in belfast does too. but you’re better off just reading unless your country will pay you to go to school.
I thought reason doesn’t exist just “general intuition” (instincts) …
in the US, it’s only roman unis which take german idealism and heidegger seriously. and marx-engels aren’t taught in philospohy depts anymore. just sociology and polysci depts.
and if you’re interested in ancient philosophy you’re out of luck. better to major in ancient greek or sanskrit.
one side benefit of learning greek is you can read the new testament as it was written.
think what Wittgenstein meant in the Tractatus was that philosophical questions such as, “What is the good?” are senseless because the answers to them are tautological.
Let x stand for good, and the variable y stand for whatever we might find it to be, let’s say, the beautiful. If x=y, then people believe they’ve said something sensible about morality, that the good is the beautiful.
But they really haven’t said anything sensible at all, because saying the good is the beautiful, x=y, is really only the same as saying the good is the good, x=x, if the two variables are equal.
The same thing happens if we say the good is not the beautiful, then it’s x=(~y), and it’s still saying the terms are identical and doesn’t add any sense to either term.
I think what he was saying, is that in order to find answers to these kinds of questions, we can’t use language,
WRONG!
EXAMPLE OF INTENSE AUTISM
HORRIBLE LOGIC ALERT!
If I wished to spend 4 years of reading an autistic guy write 500, 000 words to say things like the idea above I think by definition I would be even more autistic than the guy that wrote the text.
I look at stuff like the above or economic equations and immediately I feel its wrong even without having to ‘analyse’ it as such. Total intuition. I know autistic people can be super high IQ like Kripke and Wittgenstein, but its not just social retardation. They lack a type of ‘general intuition’. I don’t think IQ tests pick that type of logic up. It leads to shit like free market economics and analytic philosophy.
Pill think know some obvieties make him superior… poorly therapeutically assessed.
Why do you think you are philospher pill???
And then there’s people like you, who have a shitty intuition and a low IQ.
Be interested to hear Langan’s opinion on the best philosophers. Langan isn’t autistic or a loser like most very high IQs guys.
Langan is just a higher IQ lower class version of me. We both use logic to obsess over our icons. I use statistics to prove Oprah’s significance. He uses philosophy to prove God exists. We’re like identical twins separated at birth
Both wrong sadly so
^^DELUSIONAL
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pumpkin will you let me answer the questions you made? you have my email to send them to me. I promise to delete them if you wish to keep them anonymous.
Is that your email that you entered into your comment?
PP is not classy enough to answer my email but i changed my mind about it. It was a moment of suddenliness.
Sorry, just saw it now. I replied!
why does peepee deny being a black woman even though everyone knows it?
First you said Oprah’s rich because she’s evil & now you say i’m poor (as if) because i’m evil.
which is it?
Again, your chart only shows the SAT population, not the general U.S. population and it converted the pre-1995 scores to the re-centered scale for comparison purposes. The scale was re-centered in 1995 to get the combined mean of college bound teens back up to 1000 as it was in the 1940s when only people of my social class went to college.
people of your social class have never gone to college, including you. sad.
LMAO! Not only have I graduated from uni, I did so in Canada where IQ & educational standards are higher. Most people assume I have more degrees than a thermometer.
i know oprah didn’t score over 700 on either part. i am almost certain she didn’t score above the mean for test takers on either. but she may never’ve taken the test. tennessee state is an HBCU and has very low scores.
She was the best reader in an all-white Nashville class in the 4th grade & did long division despite being about a year younger than her classmates (she jumped from kindergarten to second grade in only a few weeks after writing her teacher a note telling her she didn’t belong there because she could read and knew a lot of big words like elephant and hippopotamus). Assuming she didn’t regress to the mean when she got older, I’d expect her to have scored 686 V and 462 M for a combined SAT of 1148 which probably equated to an IQ of 130+ in her day. Then adjust for the fact that prior to the 1980s, the SAT underestimated black intelligence by half an SD & she should be pushing IQ 140 on a good day.
Do you follow Oz’ s recommendations PP??
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/29/dr-oz-oprah-winfrey-let-down-fans
This blog taught me
Oprah is an geniusentertainer as…. Shakeaspeare
And
Black music is superior than western//white high culture as classical music…
Non-white music has always been superior. Whites dont have the rhythmic capabilities to take advantage of music.
And blacks are definitely genius entertainers. Oprah is a good example of someone who has enough warmth and energy to actually make her appealing to a wide-range of audiences.
Oprah is not like Shakespeare. Nobody will remember her 100 years from now.
Black music is superior. Just listen to any Jazz at all.
Instincts…
These guys think Beethoven is inferior than any musical black artist.
Everything here is about generalized anti white prejudice and not real, objectively neutral comparative analysis.
Different than me because i can apreciate some great black musicians but no have comparison between highest levels of beauty and or philosophical meaning on arts.
It’s not just rythm where artist blacks tend to excell.
In this week Harold Budd passed away. Another fantastic white or non black composer on ambient music style.
^^^AIDS
there’s monk.
there’s hawkins’s body and soul.
there’s “i let a song go out of my heart”.
there’s take 5.
there’s herby mann at the village gate.
there’s monk.
that’s it. most jazz is gayer than oprah’s half brother.
You have terrible taste in Jazz.
But that’s expected because you’re white.
All white people have bad taste in music.
plus it’s not just albanians who say…
greatest jazz vocalist is sinatra and it isn’t even close…if he counts as a jazz vocalist.
sinatra is in the encyclopedia. you have to be a god like entertainer to get an encyclopedia article and sinatra had one before he died. that’s how great he was.
is oprah in the encyclopedia?
Even better: she’s in the dictionary:
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/oprahfication
https://new_words.enacademic.com/270/Oprahization
Oprah and Sinatra were both listed as Time magazine’s 100 most influential people of the 20th century and were both targeted by biographer Kitty Kelley who built her career attacking the biggest icons in society, from Jackie O to the Bush dynasty. Actually Sinatra launched her career by foolishly trying to stop her from writing his biography thus making her a free speech martyr. He was her first target and Oprah was her last.
She stated “I can’t think of anyone in the World more FASCINATING than Oprah”
Old-man Mug showing off his antiquity again. Does anyone still read encyclopedias? I thought the only relevant one was Wikipedia.
Also Santo what do you know about instincts rationality and the like? You seem like the most instinctual one here never fully conceptualizing new ideas and lacking the openness to garner knowledge and education on ones that contradict your own!
King Melo is a black supremacist
What is the major difference between a White and a Black supremacist??
No have one. Both stupid.
“ALL white people have a bad taste on music.”
Jees. Not just wrong but insane statement.
Among the greatest on arts as well science and philosophy is inquestionable european descent superiority., historically and collectively speaking
But it doesn’t mean ALL whites are superior…
It’s mean as a “group” (in the truth we are talking about a multiple ethnic and national groups distributed by time and space).
And rap is pure garbage as is to brazilian funk. I’m not saying that because i’m a classical racista because i’m not. I could be name korean pop and many of western/white comercial pop as low taste too. But nothing is more disgusting than rap and funk carioca (which is different to original funk).
I forgot to say another valuable lesson i learn here
Black people is (on avg??) more beautiful than White people
(Using this murrican terms black and white).
White supremacists are dumb because they overinflate white achievements and believing they are talking about themselves as if they were geniuses too.
But black supremacists are even dumber because they corrupt facts more than inflate them.
Whites on avg tend to be terribly dumb to deal with relatively abstract or complex content. Blacks on avg are already fighting and losing to deal with lower levels of abstract complexity. Both wrong and whites tend to be worse because their stupid collective actions have a heavier impact.
That’s why Loaded have a deprived abstract reasoning…
Truth have no sides. Truth is fundamental to correct moral judgment.
I hate evil whites (mostly ultraconservs) as i hate evil humans of all races (mostly ultraconservs).
People who are more instinctive and often less reasonable as you tend to not perceive in themselves how instinct-guided they are. Sad.
I’m very instinctive BUT because my self knowledge predicted by my self awareness i has been capable to understand and control my instinctive impetus. It’s a permanent dialogue. Then i can recognize mistakes and real contradictions.
PP, i don’t know to whom you are trying to convince about supposed Oprah’s virtuosity. Not me.
If you dont think thats a common trait amongst people Santo you must be more delusional than I thought you were.
You are the master of self dumbness here. You must make tutorial about your talent to be intelectually dishonest and confused…
Maybe i’m speaking greek or you are incapable to understand anything i say? or read quickly due triggering ??
And if you think this is a good looking… buy a mirror.
I’m far to be optimistic about humanity…
As you may have noticed both melo and loaded arent black but are black supremacists. People with lower IQs like Loaded and Melo are more easily influenced by the media to take on these political positions even though it is not in their interest.
“are black supremacists”
Hahaha, imagine being this stupid.
Philo is more like his dad than he realizes.
You are certainly speaking Greek Santo because youre certainly not speaking English. Lol.
and im sure im a hundred times better looking than you thank you very much.
Then what are my interests Pill? This corrupt sociopathic dumbass makes speculations for others to adhere to when in actuality it doesnt occur to him that people have their own agendas in mind and not just his own.
Pill is at the extreme end of being a narcissist. His entire mental functioning is devoted to finding ways in which other people will serve his interests. He gives not a single fuck about the interest of another. What a complete retard you have to be to believe anyone would accept that.
The problem here is your lack of intelligence not exactly language barrier.
About your face, very feminized facial traits. Can’t you see??
Are you transgender??
from [redacted by pp, dec 11, 2020]
If a person puts more cattle into his own field, the amount of the subsistence which they consume is all deducted from that which was at the command, of his original stock; and if, before, there was no more than a sufficiency of pasture, he reaps no benefit from the additional cattle, what is gained in one way being lost in another. But if he puts more cattle on a common, the food which they consume forms a deduction which is shared between all the cattle, as well that of others as his own, in proportion to their number, and only a small part of it is taken from his own cattle…
Your interests are in preserving white society.
also remember: the melo personality is so autistic it thinks TSLA is worth more than 6x what it was worth at the beginning of the year…or was selling at an 83% discount to its intrinsic value.
Hmmm sounds like something a gay bear would say.
Tesla is worth 600 a share because that’s how much I’m currently willing to pay for it.
If Mugabe understood what I meant than he’d make more than a measly 15% a year.
Sad.
Tesla fanboys will end up in tears eventually. It’s just a matter of when. Most of the people investing in it don’t even know what a free cash flow is. It’s a cult.
Unless you want to momentum trade like MeLo you shouldn’t bother.
If bitcoin pulls back to like 9 or 10k I might bite though.
Exile on Main Street is the best rock album of all time.
London Calling and late Beatles/Beach Boys records are only seen as equals for political reasons.
Ashkenazi pure breed have weird faces
NO ONE WHO “placing second in the nation in dramatic interpretation” GOES TO AN HBCU.
NO ONE.
OPRAH IS JUST ONE LIE AFTER ANOTHER.
UNLIKE TRUMP.
I doubt she lied about placing second in dramatic interpretation. That’s a matter of public record and she had her high school speech teacher on her show. Also poison pen writer Kitty Kelley spent years trying to expose every lie Oprah ever told in her scandalous biography so that likely would have been exposed.
I’m surprised she didn’t place first. In terms of sheer delivery, her wildly praised speech at the 2018 Golden Globes was arguably the best speech of the 21st century & had people as impressive as Meryl Streep demanding she run for president. Thank God she was smart enough not to listen given the current political climate.
“her wildly praised speech at the 2018 Golden Globes was arguably the best speech of the 21st century”
I think you have mental health problems Puppy.
Given that you think Trump is the World’s greatest orator & that no black is a good actor, you’re probably not the best judge of the performing arts.
I never said trump was the best, but he is objectively among the best. And yes, I stand by my comment that blacks play themselves in movies.
Trump is a great entertainer but a mediocre orator. Obama is great orator but a mediocre entertainer. Big Brained Oprah is better at both than both.
Half of the jokes about Trump are how shitty he is at speaking.
This blog have many unsophisticated people on blogosphere
Why my surprise??
Hbeedearableness
Unfortunately very sophisticated people tend to be very frivolous…
Learn how to speak English you fucking retard.
Queen Melo (such a ridiculous name and avatar) say some very stupid things here just because his inner primate cannot be hidden all the time. Sadly….
Pure blacks tend to be extremely ugly
Blacks on avg are more criminal than other races. Because blacks has been exceptionally powerless we can’t see how bad they collectively speaking would be in global management as whites has been… probably worse
All racist supremacists are true retard even if white supremacists are very relatively right about “white race” if it is analysed using deal criteria whites has been extremely dumb or evil throughout the world and against themselves ..
Shitshow we are seeing by white nation behaviors trying to deal with pandemic crisis specially the land of pure nordic, sweden, is absolutely pathetic. The conserv is the biggest problem in the world as well woke retard like RR
But i see many people of color without masks in the brownzilian streets. Maybe is the white racism???
Majority of “antirracist” activists of color are black supremacists.
PP is black or half black
If PP is White hetero male he would be
Absolutely weird because his fanaticism towards Oprah
Or
A fake character
The way PP writes look like a woman writing not a typical hbayday
Politics identities and specially antiracism has been used by neoliberal elites to blame only or specially the white instead the rich by socioeconomic problems. What we have is privilegedly rich people blaming the “white privilege” (real white people) only and no the idiocratic capitalism, a system where life worth less than profit.
It’s absolutely pathetic how Santo creates walls and walls of text that nobody will actually be able to understand.
Santo why do you talk like you have any authority on looks! You are ugly as shit my boy…get over it!
Queen Melo is extremely dishonest to deal with what contradict his point of views.
The same way he said
ALL
whites have bad taste
Hopefuly a moment of deep triggerism…
Do you think whites are just avg white american??
From Lisbon to Vladvostok there are very rich traditional cultures thus music styles as well in any place populated by fellow human beings.
You can be less loaded i mean retarded to criticise whites, as a group,.
It’s obvious you are capable to understand 95% of what i said here and accept that my comments make sense..
For example
Neoliberal elites uses politics identity to deviate from the fundamental question: class struggle. Blame the white not the capitalism/capitalists.
Interestingly “blame the white” narrative has been very problematic to progressism itself.
Sorry if i offend you. I really don’t think King Melo is a ridiculous nickname.
Nobody understands your comments Santo. PP you should take a poll to see how many people actually understand him and see if ANY person on this blog wants to or actually gets whatever the fuck this half-gook is saying!
If it was true, people here would be quite dumb to don’t understand my minimalistic english. If is a common card used all the time by people from right to left wing to attack me when they no have arguments… as always happens with you.
My english is poor in diversity not in coherence.. an opposite pattern of english itself. Ali these simple sentences are understandable, ugly delol.
But it’s Interestingly how a half philipino can be so self colonized by amerricans…
English is a language of a global colonization of mostly evil empowered whites attempting to impose it on all of us. It’s the duty of colonized degrade its grammar as what happened with latin resulting in modern romanic languages. If you are not a english native speaker and you have a below avg english proficience you are doing it right!
Jeesus Klaus!!
Attempting to prove my santo’s english theory i wrote evenworse thanusual.
The “interestingly” should be “interesting”
The “ali” should be “all”
Also my lack of attention is an issue.
Santo you insolent retard! No one understands a single thing you say!
PP is such an idiot for approving your comments!
jewpedia says:
Winfrey became an honors student, was voted Most Popular Girl, and joined her high school speech team at East Nashville High School, placing second in the nation in dramatic interpretation.[48][49]
She won an oratory contest, which secured her a full scholarship to Tennessee State University, a historically black institution
if true i wouldn’t be that surprised if she scored slightly above the mean on the SAT-V…
but then why would she go to a black school? and speaking and reading are related but distinct abilities. she might’ve just been a good actress with a manly voice.
was her hs mostly black when she attended? its other famous alums are all white men.
wiki also claims oprah has zero european ancestry and lots of indigienous ancestry. THIS IS A LIE! FIRST TOLD BY OPRAH!
here you find the root of oprah’s and peepee’s evil:
Upon transferring, she said she was continually reminded of her poverty as she rode the bus to school with fellow African-Americans, some of whom were servants of her classmates’ families. She began to rebel and steal money from her mother in an effort to keep up with her free-spending peers.
She took a genetic test and those were her results you moron.
It’s believable that she has less white admixture than the average African American. When she moved to Chicago to take on Donahue, everyone except Gayle King Bumpus predicted she would fail. Explaining why, one of her colleagues was quoted as saying “Oprah is a very black looking black woman. While I personally find her very attractive, there was that element.” Her ancestry was analyzed by Harvard’s Henry Louis Gates who hosted shows where he would surprise famous people with their ancestry profile. I doubt she made him lie, although she one told South Africans she was Zulu which was either a cheap pander or a bad DNA test.
Her junior high school was mostly black, but when a teacher observed her reading in the cafeteria while the other kids were goofing off, he arranged for her and a few other exceptional blacks to attend an all Jewish high school in an elite Milwaukee suburb and even there she excelled. She had to take some kind of test to get in but ended up stealing from her mom to fit in with her new rich friends & then ran away from home.
Her mother sent her to Nashville to live with her dad where she attended an integrated lower class high school where no one was expected to go to college and Oprah didn’t want to go anyway because she planned on being an actress. But after winning a beauty contest against light skinned girls thanks to super human dramatic interpretation, she got a scholarship to attend Tennessee state. She considered going to Fisk which was considered the black Harvard, but didn’t want to compete for boys with light-skinned girls. She also wanted to stay close to home because she landed a gig hosting black radio in Nashville.
oops
4 IQ test questions…
0 answers.
I thought Austin answered one of them.
That’s because no one cares you loser.
Get a life.
i also really doubt that the european ancestry of african americans is mostly due to white slave master rapists.
this is just PC bullshit.
When populations clash, it’s very common for the males of the dominant race to breed with the females of the conquered race. In fact you can tell which race was dominant by whether it was the men or the women who passed on genes. David Reich talks a lot about this.
hypergamy and that their children might have privileges is a reason why the slave women may’ve been the agressors.
is there any reliable data on penis size by country? some wypipos probably have smaller [redacted by pp, dec 13, 2020] than others
In Brazil matrilinear lineages of pop here is significantly more amerindian and african than among patrilinear lineages. The same for icelandic pop (matrilinearity is more celtic than nordic…) But it’s not all them by rape of course.
if anglos did the raping, wouldn’t you expect to see more blacks with light colored eyes?
~80% of white anglos have blue/green eyes. if african americans 20% euro you’d expect at least 10% of them to have light colored eyes.
They do you fuckin dibshit. Youve never met a black person with colored eyes? Its not really that rare.
one of many much more frequent occurences would’ve been like arnold and his housekeeper.
Biggest problems in the world is woke leftists (retarded) and ultrarightists (retarded).