Back in 2016, I estimated that Trump had a genius verbal improvisational IQ of 140 but an arithmetic IQ of only 94 (average range). This gave a composite score of perhaps 121 (borderline genius), but that composite score was not very reliable, since it was based on only two cognitive functions and there was such a huge gap between them.
Now I have evidence for a third cognitive function, long-term visual memory, and sadly, it will pull down the composite score quite a lot.
Apparently Trump doesn’t know the colours on the American flag.
How can he not know something this basic? On page 513 of Wechsler’s Measurement and Appraisal of Adult Intelligence Fifth Edition, it’s reported that 100% of the the WAIS standardization sample in the 1950s passed this item. Perhaps in Trump’s age group it would be a little less, maybe 98%, but failing an item that 98% of his age group can pass would give an IQ of only 70, in long-term visual memory.
So my updated estimate of Trump’s IQ:
Verbal improvisation: 140
Arithmetic: 94
Long-term visual memory: 70
Full-Scale IQ: About 100
Of course I’m not a professional, so hopefully my estimate is wildly wrong and Trump is every bit as smart as the brilliant Chris Langan thinks, because if he really does have only average intelligence, the neocons are going to take advantage and trick him into starting another war, which is not in his or America’s interests. They already got him to rip up the Iran nuclear deal.
Pumpkin Person 
this is what’s so SAD!
black women CAN be extremely sexy…but usually…
1. black women are VERY NOT sexy.
2. black women are ANGRY.
3. black men are MUCH sexier than black women.
black men are MUCH sexier than black women.
FALSE! You just have some weird fetish for black men.
How would you prove that?
Only a gay Malé could say this or you’re a suprautist.
So we’re just going to assume he didn’t mean to be whimsical about it? Being creative and not taking something like that seriously? Trump having an IQ of 100 is simply absurd.
If this were an isolated incident you might have a point, but there seems to be a pattern of Trump getting confused:
Billy, I’ve almost finished with 2 Russians, trying to grab at least some facts about foreigners getting familiar with American (or other) culture ( see under your question/comment on the PP’s quiz) . Alas, it seems like an adult foreigner has very poor chances to compensate his gap. We need now somebody who moved to the US at school age and still speak his/her native language well .Personally, I vote for Maria Sharapova – but I dont know her in person . Does anyone know her well? Or at least just neighbors from Fort Lauderdale. , hehe
It started as a joke, and now I find myself in a strange mood. hmmmm. If I am that crazy as I know myself , I will post a message on her Insta. At least somebody among the star’s followers may pay attention to the blog. I d like to see some multilingual Russian on here, That guy, a talkative blogger with strong points on everything, he disappeared, right? I hope no one is against it. And – I promise – I will be super nice, RuralRuski as intercultural Ambassador-volunteer hehe.
you decided not to put that test in consideration, PP? what’s the name..Montreal cognitive assessment , right? Too risky – the doctor night lie?.
I don’t trust the Montreal test results. There was too much motivation to lie/cheat given that the media was questioning his mental fitness at the time.
of course. Now forgive me for my naivety – if it was a lie,is it a crime/felony in the States? One willfully misleads voters on such important issue…..
No, politicians lie to the public all the time about important issues.
What are y’all talking about?????
Trump’s general intelligence (g) is extremely high.
But:
PP is clueless if he thinks the Republicans can get us in a war with Iran. 9/11 is something that only happens once unless PP thinks the next war will be an inside job like 9/11 was? And we would fucking lose if that happened, Russia would nuke Europe. No Democrat would vote for that. (critical thinking PP)
He doesn’t need Democrats to vote for it (general knowledge Cat :-)):
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-President-need-congressional-approval-to-take-military-action-Is-it-legal-for-the-President-to-fight-a-war-that-has-not-been-declared-by-Congress-Send-troops-to-a-foreign-country-without-Congressional-approval
Global war is still a bad thing.
And definitely, a real revolt in the government would happen.
“Russia would nuke Europe.”
hahahHAHA.
r u seryous?
This is a russian way.
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‘I hope no one is against it” I did not mean the disappearance of the blogger!!
I have problems.
What the hell
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You a soul polite!!
I hope you feel better.
I use my hand
I read that book about trump Fire and Fury and if Wolff isn’t lying or sensationalising it, I’d suggest his IQ would be even lower and that he has severe ADD. Some of the stories in it make it sound like hes almost animalistic.
I suspect Wolff probably was because I find it really hard to believe someone who who had the attention span and cognitive chops of a black teenager could become a billionaire in new york real estate and become president.
I don’t think you need to be smart to be president though. You just have to serve Master and sell it well to the public as of JFKs assasination and certainly Nixon’s deposing.
Theres another rumour that Wolff said he couldn’t put in the book which was that Trump and the UN ambassador Hailey were having an affair.
I know Hailey sleeps around a bit from other stories. But again, I don’t know for sure. I think this one is actually true.
His children are said to be very dumb, Ivanka included.
But this is common to all americans in that generation. It may be an affect they learned watching MTV.
Intelligence is kind of like looks in terms of heritability. Ivanka is more stunning than both her parents easily. The brothers, not so much. But maybe Santo can comment.
MTV is crap.
I get all my music from AMV’s
I can comment not now and here. Gut karma hunks!
Ivanka is the least smart. She probably is dumb. Barron is the smartest.
I said to my psychiatrist: I believe certain stereoytypes about certain groups are true [redacted by pp, sept 28, 2018].
And then he looked at me forlornly and said, “Yes, I think well have to do something extra for you”.
Im on these new meds and I feel much better, but I still think those stereotypes are true because they ARE FUCKING TRUE.
I explained to him my theory of the common man. I said the man at the local bookies smelling of wee actually knows more than most educated people as long as he continues to be instinctive.
He looked very bemused. I then said to him “You read the guardian dont you”.
He said: “Yes”
I would have been a brilliant psychiatrist.
What is it like to be right?
Nobody believes you.
Thats the tragedy friends. SAD.
Wow, elaborate.
cant you find friends? i think you could!
”cant you find friends? i think you could!”
Don’t lie to him.
I thought about retracting the statememt as the definition of friend is dubious, but he is some what funny and some what smart…
If you made the screen blank. And asked me the age of the person being interviewed. I’d say about 15. 16 tops.
It reminds me a lot of this.
Bill gates even though hes autistic made a factual error. The gap between rich and poor is widening. I don’t know why he said its narrowing.
What he meant to say was extreme deprivation has decreased even as the ginis are going up.
(Although then again, a lot of heritage foundation economist-priests keep saying that china brought enough millions out of poverty for an overall global decline.)
It was an rhetorical lie.
He translated income inequality to utility inequality to decrease the gap as diminishing returns exist. By doing that he can also point to the emotional statement that “people are going out of poverty” even though its limited as the standard for poverty has been lowered an is retarded to begin with. Though the decrease in agregate poverty is showing some promise, but there are definately problems ahead, we dont have everything figured out (well i kinda do muahhaha!).
gates made the interviewer look stupid with the “seems to work” comment at the end.
Bill gates is not stupid, he is just pretending to save his capitalist ass, he is really smart behind closed doors most likely.
This video is gold XD
“like north korea”
HAHAHA
“im only an expert in america”
Translation: im only an expert in stupid lies.
“by sending things through panama”
HAHAHAHAHA
“By threatening people to go to jail”
Might be true, but greece is the one counter argument that comes from the top of my head.
Bill Gates is an example of how an idiot can become a billionaire actually, so maybe its possible trump has the mind of a 15 year old.
and gates is much more self-made than trump
Gates is actually flat out lying about microsofts dodgy accounting and the senate investigation into it.
He might not be autistic after all and be this secret social genius predator that pretends to be miss south carolina that puppy keeps telling me!
i don’t think he’s a social genius, but i think he’s a genius overall. He may have an autistic type mind in that his social IQ is way lower than his math IQ, but his general intelligence is so high it pulls up even his social reasoning to functional levels, otherwise he would not have been so successful at running a company (a social task that requires knowing who to hire, trust and partner with). If you’re brilliant at logic, you’re unlikely to be very dumb at anything, because everything (even social dynamics) is logical on some level. However a lot of these computer nerd types will have kids who inherit their logic > social mind, but without the super high IQ to make it functional, and the kids than get diagnosed as autistic.
I know you think him giving money to africa is dumb, but it depends what his goal is and it depends what the long-term consequences of his philanthropy are. In the short-term it’s made him extremely respected all over the world, which shows social IQ.
Trump brain and verbal IQ is a mystery ! Because his grammar and vocabulary is very very poor and tainted with ridiculous idiosyncrasies. But he is extraordinarily effective in changing the way most people (2/3) with an open mind in a particular subject will look at it. He is also very good at leveraging all what it have at his disposition to reach his goals.
When he was younger, he was speaking much more clearly even if he had the same general weirdness. So I guess he has lost at least 10 IQ points in the last 30 years.
When the g is splashed in so diverse areas so unevenly and with a shape that is so uncommon, one figure isn’t telling much about the animal. It is like assessing the danger of the animal by his grip while being in front of a black widow or mamba …
Honestly, I find this completely dumb. Trump is till the same person as he was younger. The difference now is that he clearly doesn’t want to affect political oration, which he outright commented on during one of his rallies. That means he’s going to rely on something relatable and endearing – his idiosyncrasies.
You read about a few flubs and now you’re supposing he’s awful in grammar and vocabulary? Ridiculous. We’re talking about a very outspoken President in the age of social media; mistakes are going to be magnified, especially with MSM being largely against him, unless you believe high IQ to be infallible.
Obama can call his wife Michael, but still be regarded as high IQ on this blog, because you didn’t have the media pouncing on every little mistake; there is no constant bombardment to shape an image of buffoonery.
To me, Trump is quite gifted. You don’t just bumble and stumble to being a Billionaire President.
1- i didn’t say he is dumb but he has lost 10 IQ points . If he was 140. He would still be gifted
2- i don’t base my analysis of his vocab and grammar on fake news. I ve watched many rallyes and conferences and former interviews. I didn’t say he is not effective, quite the opposite
You should try to learn to find precise ideas before making an opinion about what’s dumb or not . And then, you shouldn’t be over confident in your abilities to know …
It’s also possible that his intelligence has declined but his IQ has stayed the same since most people get dumber with age & IQ is age normed.
Obama once claimed there were 57 states & seemed confused about when his own birthday was. So you’re right that the media could have made him seem dumb if they wanted to.
“Obama can call his wife Michael”
Obama clearly called his “wife” Michael because Michael is his real name. Looking at “Michelle’s” physique, it’s possible…
Michael is her name in dominatrix Sessions. Or she is Michael… Jackson after transumanism
How come RR gets to say that conspiracy theory and I dont?
Yes. I believe his decline his 10 IQ points on top of the general decline of his cohort with age modulo the fact that the people who are not able to be tested at 70 we’re lowering the scores anyway so that it’s more difficult to get a 130 IQ at 70 than at 40 even if the absolute score of the younger one his higher.
Or said otherwise, his decline is bigger than average. Maybe he has the verbal decline of a 75-85, 10 years earlier. It’s also possible that people with very uneven g level in specialized skills get screwed earlier.
I still believe he is much more intelligent than your evaluation.
I discussed Trump’sost recent health report:
Trump’s total cholesterol puts him into the borderline range. His triglycerides are at a good level, below average. HDL cholesterol being 67 mg/dL is in the good range while his LDL cholesterol level puts him at borderline risk. Trump’s cholesterol to HDL level, however, is good implying that he’s not at an increased risk of heart attack.
Regarding his white blood cell count, he’s slightly below the values for a man of his age, and white blood cell count is a good predictor of mortality in the elderly (Nilsson, Hedberg, and Ohrvik, 2014) and since he’s on the lower end there, he doesn’t have to worry about that.
For hemoglobin (HGB) he’s in the normal range. His HCT levels (hematocrit tests measure the percentage of red blood cells in the blood) and since he’s at 48.7% this puts him in the normal range of 38.8 to 50 percent. His platelet count (PLT) is in the normal range (241 K/uL), with the normal range being between 140 to 400 K/uL. His fasting blood glucose is normal (he had a value of 89 mg/dL with the average being 70 to 100 mg/dL implying that Trump is at no risk of developing type II diabetes.
His BUN level (blood urea nitrogen) was 19.0 mg/dL with the normal range being 7 to 20 mg/dL so he’s at the high end there. His blood creatinine level being .98 mg/dL is in the normal range of .84 to 1.21 mg/dL. His ALT levels were 27 U/L with the normal range being 7 to 56 units per literally. His AST levels were 19 U/L with the normal range being 10 to 40 U/L. His hemoglobin A1C level is normal at 5.0%. A level between 5.7 and 6.4 indicates pre-diabetes indicating that he is not at risk for diabetes.
Regarding vitamin D levels, Trump is right at the edge of good levels, at 20 ng/ml however others state that for the elderly their levels should be around 32 to lessen the chance of fracture. His PSA level (prostate specific antigen) is extremely low at .12 ng/dl with medical professionals advising that PSA levels over 10 ng/dl are at risk for prostate cancer. Finally his TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone level) was 1.76 uIU/ml with the normal range being .4 to 5.0 uIU/ml.
The only thing wrong looking at this report are his LDL cholesterol levels. Regarding the summary of the report, it states that he should lower his intake of fat and carbohydrates. Ravnskov et al (2016) state that “High LDL-C is inversely associated with mortality in most people over 60 years.” So it seems he’s fine there.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2018/01/21/donald-trump-his-health-diet-and-good-genes/
As far as I’m aware, Trump doesn’t exercise and not exercising is associated with cognitive decline (along with increased risk of mortality from various diseases which I’ll cover in the future):
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/02/14/exercise-longetivity-and-cognitive-ability/
Iq-tards Someday i hope and pray
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Difference between gifTED and Genius
Oprah Will teach them
God is beyond me. s/he exists outside the periphery of my ego. On occasion, something happens where I am in contact with God. An example being, when I met that man who ran up to me and asked for help because he “knew” I would do so on his intuition. Or when I had the dream where I had forgiven someone and I was in this place of light and she was before me in pure golden sunlight. Beauty is the ultimate presence of God because you can go to realms of such splendor and majesty that you must have been there to realize that that place is the fulfillment of the deepest wishes of the heart. Nothing compares to it. It is alive, full of kindness, peace, joy and the purity of true love. You would do anything for it because you know the only way to receive it is to embody it in your life as the divine acceptance of every being in Gods’ heart.
”GOD = s/he”
You must be more inclusive and less binnary-thinker Kit!!
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Genderqueer, also known as —(non-binary)—, is a catch-all category for gender identities that are not exclusively masculine or feminine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer
Muh High iq and Genius is the same…
Talk more about your perception about your owj intelligence…
Lindsay disciples
Not really, genius is an utility/achievement based descriptor. For example if you can solve a rubiks cube in 2 minutes that might mean that you have superior visuo-spatial IQ perhaps at the 160 level putting you in the 1 in 100k an extremely high IQ by any metric but does that make you a genius? Most decidedly NOT! We reserve the word genius for those that have exhibited or are primed to exhibit something of great utility to humanity. Hence why we say someone has genius level IQ and refrain from labeling them a genius just yet until they have proven to be worthy of that label, typically high achievements in STEM research or particular musical or literary works, or achievement in other high value professions. So no, I reject this equivocation, a high IQ is just that, and an extremely high IQ is just that. A genius level IQ means that you have an IQ that gives you an increased potential of achieving genius status. I prefer the following scale.
gifted 120 – 129
highly gifted 130 – 144
near genius level 145 – 159
genius level 160 – 174
extreme genius level 175 – 189
contract with the devil 190+
Now can we get a genius with an IQ of 135, sure if they have the achievements to prove it, but the chances are significantly reduced while more than likely they may be extremely talented in certain areas and mediocre in others thus producing a moderate composite IQ. Hence why we say genius level, implying that this is the level at which we observe the greatest number of geniuses.
You have to consider his aging and health.
His iq is probably like 110 thanks to his elite education with some personal deficiencies making him seem stupid and being low in crystalized intelligence.
Nope. His IQ is 125+.
This looks like an interesting read and somewhat validating my assessment.
https://www.quora.com/What-was-Trumps-SAT-ACT-score
I put his IQ at 140(peak IQ at the prime of his life). Math/Logical 155, Visuospatial 145, Verbal 120. Aging has probably impacted his working memory somewhat, particularly the sort that allows one to juggle complex ideas while searching for appropriate words to describe those ideas(something that requires both hemispheres to be activated). He seems like a heavy right brain person, language is a left brain function, while facial recognition/social acuity is a right brain function. Note how he is particularly atuned to reading people’s intent, motives, affiliations and long term collaborative prospects(check out his recent press conference). Now you might say so what, but I think that due to the world he comes from(business world) this is particularly heightened obviously at the expense of linguistic competence. The impact of aging on his working memory and executive functioning has probably cropped off 10 points most noticeable in his verbal acuity(weakest point). If we were to devise an interpersonal IQ he would likely score off the charts(as would most presidents) 160+. Another interesting tid-bit, the left side of the brain is responsible for fine motor action while the right brain is responsible for gross motor action. This may also explain why he is somewhat awkward/goofy in certain settings ie jerky hand shake. Keep in mind that one can be a right brain person despite being right handed.
You are just making shit up. His IQ is 125 tops. Does anyone know His school graders? Thats indicative
Trump was on the Apprentice.
I think you are right pumpkinhead.
illuminaticatblog Not sure if that was sarcasm…? In any case I will admit my comments are high wire conjecture but it is all based on sound science. Now to what degree this applies to Trump is hard to tell but it’s always fun to speculate and try to put the pieces together.
Not making anything up, you are welcome to do the research yourself(it is readily available online). If you are referring to my evaluation of his IQ, I would call that an educated guess, which is no more making shit up than your assessment of a 125 IQ. But before you jump to conclusions keep in mind that I gave him a 140 in his prime. Subtract 10 due to aging, that gives us 130, which is only 5 points higher than your 125. In any case, I agree the best way to work it out for sure is to take a look at his grades, perhaps see what his high school and university teachers think.
i think i found another swank. check it out. joel kahn is a jewish doctor who thinks he’s italian. just like billy joel.
We run simulations in our heads to figure things out. If you have more information in circulation (bandwidth) you can simulate more things at once. This makes you more creative/intelligent. We are all different and some people simulate specific kinds of information at gifted/genius levels. example: (“drawing”)
I follows some sports, gymnastics and volleyball. In both i don’t saw any huge representation of explicitly gifted people.
Remember everybody about the three types of gifted people
People who talk about intelligence everyday here don’t know how to detect intelligence when they need… trump is not that genius seems most of you are thinking, sorry for that!
The brown marker could have been because he is colorblind, or one of the kids needed his red/blue marker. I assume the 100% who got it correct were not asked to actually color in a flag.
“I hope I said 100 thousand people the first time instead of 100 million. I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, uh …”
-Obama
maybe the brown marker looked red to him. Still doesn’t explain why he thought any of the stripes were blue, though much less than 100% would know what color goes where so that’s a more forgivable error.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dnq-27FUYAUPniL.jpg:large
When science is ”knowledge” by ”knowledge”, it’s a alienation…
All thinking is judgement, and it’s MORAL ones.
Morality or ethics is in everything you are doing included supposed ”morally unreachable” science.
Search for knowledge IS a moral thing itself.
of course, white tra$h can’t never think in reasonably rational ways, and this just explain its ENTIRE bullshit stupid history of ”commiting the same mistakes since the rock age” and/or ”living and dying because alpha fights idiocracy”.
Pumpkin, the other day one of my friends decided he’d take a Digit Span test. He did, got to 7, rarely got 8. Now, he raised his digit span, to get 8 numbers most of the time and pretty easily, getting 9 digits right every now and then. He didn’t use a nemonic system.
He then tried a letter span afterwards. The letter span was 1.5 seconds per letter, while digit span is more like 1.25- and he got 8 letters, which rolled on his tongue (which most digit span items on the WAIS does), while for the ones that didn’t, he missed one letter.
I think that practicing digit span without nemonic system, you would be improving your working memory. Some people can increase their span faster than others, but that’s what you can do, at least that’s my theory.
Apparently, there was a study done on kids who increased their digit spans this way, and they showed real life improvements.
A lot of the time when there’s a practice effect, the subject generally used a Nemonic.
An example of Trump high verbal IQ is yesterday as he was explaining he didn’t participate in the work of this health math modeling in particular and recognize he never had anything to do with any models :
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-jokes-at-briefing-i-was-never-involved-in-a-model-at-least-this-kind-of-a-model/
It’s not easy to see two very different accept(at)ion of a term at the same time, even more when you are the speaker.
I found it very funny and I heard only 1 person got the joke (even people who don’t like Trump would have laughed because it was self deprecation and it’s very anglo-american humour)