Some of my commenters seem to think the IQ scale is like percentage. That is if you have 90% as many neurons as the average person, your IQ is 90. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The IQ scale was originally based on the idea that if a child was mentally functioning at 50% of his chronological age, he had an IQ of 50, and if he was functioning at 150% of his chronological age, he had an IQ of 150.
So an adult (age 16 to 19), who would score like an eight-year old, would have an IQ around 50. The problem with this is that as the above chart shows, an eight-year-old does not have 50% of the brains of an adult, but more like 95%. I realize there’s much, much more to intelligence than just overall brain size, but assuming the brain size growth curve is typical of the growth of other brain properties, the IQ scale is wildly distorted, in that it makes the moderately retarded mind seem only half as developed as the average mind, when in reality, it’s more like 95% as developed as the average mind.
If the IQ scale were based on the actual linear growth of absolute neurological development, instead of having a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15, it would have a mean of 100 and an SD of maybe 1.7.
This explains why I was having so much trouble mapping chimps to the human IQ scale. Chimps are about as smart as human toddlers, and as the above chart shows, the neurological development during the toddler years is far greater than in childhood and adolescence combined, but because the concept of IQ is based on linear mental age units, these huge low level differences get compressed, while differences above the human toddler level get extremely exaggerated.
So if I understand, there is much more difference in real intelligence between someone with an IQ of 50 & someone with an IQ of 100 , than between a 100 IQ & a 150 IQ ?
Is this true in all IQ tests, or only mental age IQ tests ?
Judging by rate of brain growth, there’s more difference between a mental age of 3 and a mental age of 1, then there is between a mental age of 3 and a mental age of 16.
And since IQ was originally calculated as (mental age/chronological age)(100), the low end of the scale is severely compressed.
Of course we don’t calculate IQ this way anymore, but we still talk about chimps in terms of human mental age.
So it’s only true in mental age IQ tests.
Yes it’s only true on mental age tests, however there are methods to convert mental age IQ into modern deviation IQ, and since mental age IQ is so messed up, those conversions are messed up
human kids have brains in the process of maturation while adult chimps already have a full-functioning brains, no secrets here…
”This explains why I was having so much trouble mapping chimps to the human IQ scale. ”
Because it’s counterproductive.
No there ”IQ” without basal cultural techniques ”we” invent, language/vocabulary, numeric system…
The best way to compare humans with non-humans is using our non-verbal dependent/ human-basal culture-dependent skills…
You can create a super-genius with a IQ score around 85, i believe in it… because in every iq-layers there are a sub-spectrum or variation, from the worst functioning to the best one. You can increase intelligence via psychological traits improvement of course over generations… without increase quantitative or size aspects.
i believ
2 more months until my daughter is born and
I haven’t cheated on my girlfriend in a few months now.
Time to diet and exercise 🍉🍒🍎🍏🍌🍒🍇🍊🍋🍈
And get back in the game 💪😎🔪🍎
But hey pumpkin what’s the precise mental age formula
People used back in the day? I’d like to try it out with my own IQ
are you black or mixed race ?
Mixed race 51% west African 46% west European and 3% Asian
PP brother…
IQdiot
At least Mikey keeps it real
If a white guy said those exact words, say RR, Dildos would have lambasted him and told him to fess up, he was a shitty dad, and told him to go fuck himself.
The brainwashing means soft psychopath blacks can have no moral agency. Cute little trick.
“Well at least he spelled his name right!”
“Well, at least he knows what he wants!”
“Well at least he’ll get insurance from burning down the house!”
Well, at least he didn’t kill everyone!”
“Well at least he’s not racist!”
Hahahaha.
Too real for a lot of people to handle.
I feel like half these people on this blog don’t even agree with HBD anymore.
I remember back in the day pumpkin used to
Argue that IQ had nothing to do with environment, it was all genetic. While others were saying the exact opposite.
I was taking the midddle ground saying they were both important. Pumpkin believe it or not really did used to believe that living in the hood, living in poverty, being malnurished with a lack of education didn’t lower IQ, and that those people living in those positions are living like that because they have low IQ in the 1st place. It wasn’t until others and I opened his eyes. That he started to research the effects on environment on intelligence.
Evidence showed that putting poor kids in great environments raised their IQ by like what 5 points and then they regressed to the mean in adult hood? I hope I’m remembering that correctly. Nonetheless environment does have an effect. I would know I’ve lived in those conditions. As a young child with ADD
I was failing in school and was held back my 7th grade year,IQ was tested at 115. I was held back again my 9th grade year. After graduating the 9th grade I finally dropped out my 10th grade year. I never completed it. I spent the next few years of my life partying with friends and just socializing. I spent those years outside of school being ostracized by family but loved and embraced by friends. My sister even tried to murder me in my sleep. I spent a lot of my free time studying evolutionary psychology and as a teenager was just as knowledgeable if not more so than any scientist with a degree.
When I was 18 I was broke no license and extremely physically attractive, and my girlfriend was fed up with having a broke man at her side. So she taught me how to get a job. 1st I got a GED. I just barely passed it on my 1st try. I have the paper next to me actually.
Language arts/writing 27 percentile rank for U.S.
Social Studies 95th percentile rank
Science 58th percentile
Language arts/reading 69th percentile
Mathematics 42 percentile
As you can see it was my social studies that gave me the edge i needed to pass the test.
I actually got a job the 1st month I started searching. I spent 8 hours a day for a whole month applying. My girlfriend was so excited and happy… but I dumped he for not believing in me and haven’t seen her since.
I sent her thank you letter and that was it.
I was a debt collector and had extreme difficulty adapting to corporate life after having essentially been an outcast from mainstream society the majority of my life and the great job only lasted 6 months. I took an IQ test and scored 85 and I still had ADD.
I stayed in my career field and took on shitty sales jobs. That didn’t make very much money, in order to build my resume. And over time my life was slowly getting better. I was no longer abused by my family. I had food to eat. Water, and slowly adapted to society over time and when I was 19 going on 20 it was like my eyes were open for the 1st Time. Over a period of 6 months all of my childish ADD symptoms evaporated, to the point were I now have the longest attention span of anyone I’ve ever known in my life. I was finally able to hold down my current 28,000 a year job. Impregnate my girlfriend while I was still broke. And as of now invest in stocks while I work on my business. I took an IQ test 1 more time. As an adult at 21. Bam 💥120 I haven’t gotten any smarter. So unless I’m spending $200 dollars s month on nootropics…(wich I might do) it looks like it’s all down from here.
All in all I’m probably just an outlier. A freak of nature but nonetheless proof that environment does have an effect on IQ.
I’m very much in favor of race realists hypothesis that cooking is the reason for increased intelligence in ancient humans. It makes a tremendous amount of sense.
The humans that could cook meals and therefore absorb more nutrients to think about other things surely would have outreproduced the humans that did not have this advantage.
I recommend reading a book called The I tell Paradox by Saratoshi Kanazawa. It’s like $15 or free if u look it up on Pirate Bay. Anyway it’s a book on evolutionary psychology, mainly about how Intelligent people are known for creating illogical theories of complete nonsense just because their minds are the only ones capable of doing the mental backflips it takes to concoct the absurd theories in the 1st place.
Look I’m not saying Pumpkin is right or that Race is right. All I’m saying is that Race is significantly MORE LIKELY to be right because his theory is far more logical, rational and rooted in common sense.
Just because Pumpkin has the higher IQ doesn’t mean his theory(s) are more likely to be correct. It simply means they are more likely to be convuluted and complicated, and therefore false. On the other hand if he didn’t have the higher IQ he wouldn’t even be able to THINK of a plausible theory in the 1st place. THIS is the intelligence paradox!
Ok a better example of the intelligence paradox is this.
Intelligence- the ability to adapt to the environment. The more one has the better they are able to adapt.
A prison has 2 groups of prisoners in for life
Both groups want to leave prison
Group A has an IQ of 85
Group B has an IQ of 105
Group A has difficulty adjusting to prison life and causes trouble with the guards and are often fighting each other
Group B follows the rules and serves their time peaceful
Because Group A can’t stand life in prison
They stage an distraction in the courtyard and cause a riot so at least a few members can escape. A few members actually do escape.
Group B despite being more intelligent and therefore being able to create a significantly more successful breakout plan with more members escaping, decides to just play it safe because of how well they are adjusted to prison life.
That is the intelligence paradox! Right there! If everyone in group B wants to leave prison and they can Create an even better plan to escape with more of the group escaping than group A can then iITS COMPLETELY STUPID and illogicall for them NOT to attempt to escape.
It’s a paradox because being to well adapted can actually be bad for you sometimes.
I’m sure you can come up with your own scenarios
My opinions haven’t changed as much as you think. I’ve always believed environment could affect test scores and to a lesser degree intelligence. How else would I have explained the Flynn effect?
But affecting test scores is not the same thing as affecting IQ. IQ does not measure how well you perform on a test, but rather, how well you perform compared to others. Those who are more genetically inclined to have high intelligence also get access to better environments, so while environment can improve our test scores, it tends not to improve where our test scores rank compared to others, at least not by later adulthood. There are always the exception that proves the rule.
Mikey, cheating on your pregnant girlfriend makes you the biggest scumbag in the world. That’s real talk.
I think what Mikey might also be getting at here is that sometimes brute force and violence solve problems more than doing crosswords.
I just had sex with my girl a few hours ago. She knows I cheat on her. It annoys her. I tell it to her face. Accept and deal with it or leave. She chooses to deal. It’s a double standard oh well. Life is full of them.
And Pumpkin it’s been like 3 years your theories have changed a lot. And philosopher that’s pretty much what I’m saying.
The simple answer is often the correct one.
You’re a scumbag dude. You don’t deserve her and I hope she dumps your ass. Disgusting.
She wont
“That is if you have 90% as many neurons as the average person, your IQ is 90. Nothing could be further from the truth.”
This isn’t what I think at all. Cute though.
This is off topic, but do you datas on prognathism among the differents races ?
I wonder who have more prognathism, Caucasoids or Mongoloids ?
Not off the top of my head. I think whites have slightly more prognathism though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloid#Physical_features_of_.22Asian.22_people
Asians have more, whites are the most orthognatic.
What would cause Whites to be more orthognatic than Asians since they have smaller brain ? I thought brain size was what causes orthognathism. Apes are more prognathic than humans.
“I thought brain size was what causes orthognathism.”
You thought wrong.
I might be wrong too but is seems like Asians have fuller lips than Europeans. Full lips might be correlated to prognathism. And the two could be due to sexual selection or natural selection related to diet, or even thermo-regulation since Asians live in hotter places than whites.
And the two could be due to sexual selection or natural selection related to diet, or even thermo-regulation since Asians live in hotter places than whites.
Can you be more specific ?
It can be due to sexual selection if the ancestors Asians found prognathism more attractive than Europeans. It can be natural selection if East Asians had a diet that required a different morphology of the mouth relative to Europeans or if this morphology is more adapted to their climates.
North-East Asia is warmer than most of Europe, South-East Asia is a tropical regions. Asians must be adapted to life in lower latitudes, they have darker skin, flatter nose than Europeans and are closer Africans on these traits as geography would predict. Asians being more cold adapted than whites makes no sense, since a large majority of them live in warmer climates.
Sexual selection is difficult to demonstrate, and selection for diet is dubious because Asians appear to be closer to Europeans than to Africans on other mouth characteristics listed on the wikipedia chart.
Asians being more cold adapted than whites makes no sense, since a large majority of them live in warmer climates.
He’s referring to Northeast Asians, who Lynn argued were exposed to extreme cold during the ice age.
Asians being more cold adapted than whites makes no sense, since a large majority of them live in warmer climates.
The climate was colder in East Asia than in Europe during the Wurm glaciation. This is probably why they have bigger brains, straighter hairs, more fat, shorter limbs (proportionaly to body size) than Europeans.
If that’s true and the data we’re referring to is accurate, there should have been reverse selection as climate became warmer. Because if you have a brain that’s sized to be efficient in the north pole, it becomes dangerous in Hong Kong.
It looks like East Asia was warmer during the last ice age.
It looks like East Asia was warmer during the last ice age.
That’s not a temperature map, and it was created by Wikipedia, not a specialist in the field
That’s a vegetation map which gives clues to temperatures and precipitation levels.
Original source is:
http://map.ngdc.noaa.gov/website/paleo/paleoclimate/viewer.htm
Original source has moved. Image seems to be from data used for:
Ray, N. and J. M. Adams. 2001. A GIS-based Vegetation Map of the World at the Last Glacial Maximum (25,000-15,000 BP)-(23rd millennium to 13th millennium BC). Internet Archaeology 11. [1] [2]
Here is the full study:
Click to access ray_adams_2001.pdf
If we are talking about Northeast Asians only, are they more or less prognathous than Europeans ?
“If we are talking about Northeast Asians only, are they more or less prognathous than Europeans ?”
You mean Northern Chinese, Mongolians, Koreans, Japanese, Ainus and Native Siberians ?
I don’t know, I’ll search it.
Yes, at the exception of Ainus (but it would still be interesting to know their degree of prognathism), thanks you.
That’s all I could find:
https://books.google.fr/books?id=_LVRHmZs2h0C&pg=PA30&lpg=PA30&dq=prognathism+east+asian+forensics&source=bl&ots=FJUeLgSD3J&sig=yJCH8RzC0SLThHzMCnohq7GmOQQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj84PeM5LPRAhWIPxoKHaD2AncQ6AEIJTAC#v=onepage&q=prognathism%20east%20asian%20forensics&f=false
https://books.google.fr/books?id=306ruTniZmcC&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=prognathism+east+asian+forensics&source=bl&ots=sW_OcJ0gAM&sig=TMFpumQakhPX5MKUcQ5RToHEUSU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj84PeM5LPRAhWIPxoKHaD2AncQ6AEIKDAD#v=onepage&q=prognathism%20east%20asian%20forensics&f=false
There is this one too, they never give details so we must assume that “East Asian” refers to the people we most commonly think to be East Asians.
And there is this one too, I’m not really focused, I’m having an argument with my princess at the same time.
Click to access hanihara.flatness.pdf
Northeast Asians are slightly less prognathic than Southeast Asians, but the two are above the European mean.
I’m pretty sure europeans have less of an overbite than mongoloids but a more dolichocephalic cranium.
Neoteny is a selection independent of intelligence.
Yeah, come back with actual data and your middle school report card.
Well, I left my report card at your mom’s house but here’s the “data”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloid#Neoteny
You’re triggered too easily.
“Well, I left my report card at your mom’s house but here’s the “data”:”
Hope she peed in your mouth.
Anyway, no we know that melo can’t locate France Germany, Russia and Japan on a map. Let me show you a more explicit map:
For the name of the countries, ask your middle school geography teacher.
Cephalic index, prognathism and intelligence have nothing to do with intelligence or with each other.
“Hope she peed in your mouth”
No, but I came in hers.
“Anyway, no we know that melo can’t locate France Germany, Russia and Japan on a map.”
…Are you stupid? The map corresponded with my claim. Get your eyes checked.
“Cephalic index, prognathism and intelligence have nothing to do with intelligence or with each other”
I know., i already said that but your tunnel vision ignored it.
They still have to do with neoteny and by extension gene culture coevolution.
All races have some degree of neoteny because all races are intelligent. But the varying levels of neoteny between and within races has nothing to do with the discrepencies in intelligence between and within races.
It is what you were thinking. On your blog, you estimated the IQs of different species by simply dividing the number of neurons you think they had by the number modern humans supposedly have (86 million).
You wrote:
Since Afarensis had about 35 billion neurons we can infer that his IQ was about 40. Paranthropus with about 33 billion neurons had an IQ of about 38. Homo habilis had 40 billion neurons, equating to IQ 46. Erectus with 62 billion neurons comes in at IQ 72.
,https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/01/01/14481/
I should have put a disclaimer that it’s far from reality. And humans do have 86 billion neurons. I assumed that neanderthals were just as smart as modern humans due to the neuron count. And neuronal scaling holds for primates that diverged as early as other Hominin so the cellular scaling rules hold for them. That’s where the neuron estimate comes from and that why I assumed, at least neanderthal at least had the capacity to become as intelligent as us, because they had the same number if neurons as a modern human.
So yea. It’s nothing concrete. Just for fun. I will put that disclaimer now. It’s obviously impossible to know what number they’d have scored on an IQ test and in my opinion that estimate is damn close to their potential.
And modern humans do have 86 billion neurons. Humans have 16 billion in the cerebral cortex. I wonder how many ancient Hominins had.
My assumption was that since they had a neuronal amount around the same average as modern humans they at least could have become as smart as us with cultural acquisition and transference.
The main problem with thinking of IQ as a percentage is that the IQ scale lacks a true zero point. In fact, an IQ of zero makes you smarter than over 99.9% of animals. The problem with the IQ scale is its mean has been set way too low compared to its SD.
Someone here is the funniest Cuck i ever seen,
We missed you Santo!!!!1111
Best song of all time
deal likes husky gypsy men.
odd.
For Mugabe
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/12/a-sobering-look-at-alcohol-10-year-study-finds-high-death-rate/249266/
Findings:
1) Zutphen study- men who drank an average of 0.7 ounces of wine daily lived about 2.5 years longer than those who drank beer or liquor and five years longer than non-drinkers.
2) Million Women Study – any alcohol consumption at all increased their cancer risk over the next seven years. The more alcohol they drank, the higher their cancer risk.
Upshot: It’s not that studies showing health benefits from small amounts of alcohol are wrong; it’s just that that’s not how most people do drink.
There are health benefits to drinking one glass of wine per night.
http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20410287,00.html
Red wine is great once per day.
What if alcohol counteracts cortisol release?
The reason why Trumpaclpyto finds borderline alcos tend to do better is because when they say they are self medicating – they really are self medicating.
Cortisol, mental illness, depression, and other mental health issues can be far far worse for you in the long run than a few drinks at the bar.
I saw a study that showed the majority of schizos are smokers, a great deal do drugs and another great deal, I suspect drink heavily.
Not to mention the side effects of the legal drugs like risperidone, prozac and more acute ones like clonazepam, diazepam and other tranqs.
That’s why its called ‘blowing off steam’. These studies are like Rube Goldberg devices.
It wouldn’t surprise me, that for certain people, being a heavy smoker or borderline alco in the pub in the evening is a more rational play than beating up your wife, and being sassy in work.
It would be very interesting to see if schizos who are ‘clean’, live longer and have a better standard of life, than those who don’t. Intriguing.
“What if alcohol counteracts cortisol release?”
Nope.
Yes, wrong about cortisol. But murky on overall stress:
Click to access 250-255.pdf
all of these things have a great deal of variation at the level of individuals and ethnicities, but the ecological fallacy and the fallacy of composition reign in the minds of women and chinks.
i drank for hertford.
There is nothing like the aesthetic pleasure of being drunk . . . That is the greatest thing Oxford has to teach.
You and Philosopher need to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization
As a sidenote, I always find it a good laugh, that if you point out to a girl how brainwashed she might be about a topic, she’ll argue a bit, eventually agree and then the next week she’ll go back to step 1 and call someone rac-ist!!!TM
The point I’m making is that making women equally represented on boards, management and politics is a MAGHTY STOOOPID IDEA FROM ZION.
Women are wired emotionally. Therefore Zion reaches into their mind with the teddy bear stuff a lot easier.
Its men who lead rebellions and write subversive texts. Not the wimmenz who want to be led by real men.
Is that what you tell yourself to help you sleep at night? That everyone who disagrees with you is brainwashed and stupid.
Pretty much. Not just at night.
The vast majority of men disagree with you. It’s not just women. How do you explain that? Let me guess… They are “cucks”. Am I right? Lol.
Scratch that. The best response to your posts is always…
that pic turns Deal with it in on…
Q Why are is Dildos posting here?
A: To make me laugh all the time.
Mickey blaze
your mother wouldn’t happen to be Irish would she?
I have come to notice that a lot of the half-breeds we find today are the products of black fathers and irish mothers.
alcohol did a lot of damage to the irish.
oh and mickey is your pregnant girlfriend black or white ?
She’s 100% west African and red heart runs in my family In fact I have streaks of red in my hair but I’m not a drop Irish.. all my European DNA is from the west side
Both parents are biracial
Ireland is at the very west of Europe. But red hair is more Scottish than Irish, maybe you have Scotch-Irish ancestry, which is common in the South.
My white ancestry is mostly British not a drop comes from Ireland. Finland France Sweden are in Me as well
And where is your west African ancestry from ?
Most of my African genes come from a poor country called benin. Although I have Nigeria and the surrounding countries in my as well to a lesser degree
Ok, I guess I mostlycome from the Bight of Benin too though I never got tested. It’s just that I’ve found more of my lookalikes among well fed Nigerians than other African countries I went to, especially Senegal where people have a very typical appearance from which I differ a lot, they’re very dark, very tall and slender whereas I’m average brown, normally tall judging from my nutrition level and robustly built. And Haiti has a voodoo tradition that’s almost the same as that of the Fon and Yorubas from Nigeria and Benin.
I’m impressed by how little PP learns from his commenters. I’ve said many times that most of brain growth happens between pregnancy and age 3, yet it seems like you’ve only discovered it today.
I knew about it, but seldom really thought too hard about the implications for the mental age scale.
Since we don’t know where intelligence comes from, we have no other choice but to estimate it in relation to the average of a population. Since age has huge implications in terms of cognitive development, we’re forced to compare people of similar age.
You talked about basing the scale on brain size and that’s stupid. If someone has a theoretical brain size different from their actual brain size, it just means actual brain size is irrelevant to intelligence.
It’s stupid to deny brain size is related to intelligence
It’s even more stupid to say the two are synonymous and that one measures the other.
It’s even more stupid to say the two are synonymous and that one measures the other.
Which is why I would never say that.
Alright, then re-explain your brain size based IQ scale in case I’ve misunderstood.
I added an update at the end of the post where I proposed an ideal IQ scale:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2017/01/07/the-ideal-iq-scale/
Probably better to continue the discussion in that thread.
It would pretty much be like creating a new measure of height based on basketball ability.
Hey, pumpkin could you do the IQ of michael and vito corleone from Godfather part 1 and 2? Have you seen those movies?
Never seen either Godfather movie, sadly, but I did post this which relates to that topic:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2015/04/29/smart-people-get-to-the-top-naturally/
You should check it out if you ever have a few hours to kill.
I’d assume their IQ’s would be much higher than john gotti’s but I guess it’s a start.
PP must be happy that the smartest guy in the American underworld turns to be a Ashkenazi Jew who worked for the Italians. They were all locked up or killed, but he wasn’t. He never owned property, but he OWNED people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_Lansky
You should watch Boardwalk Empire. One of the best tv-shows ever made, in my opinion.
Meyer lansky is who the character hyman roth is based off of in The Godfather part 2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_Roth
Richard Wolf about 7 minutes in talks about immigration.
The guy has a Phd in economics and can’t understand p1 of ‘An Introduction to Economics – The Law of Supply and Demand’.
Its cringeworthy.
How about:
1. Kicking out 3m illegals reduces supply and increases wages boosting agg demand in total as natives fill those jobs,
2. How about you take a spatial intelligence nootropic and realise kicking out illegals frees up schools, real estate, healthcare and thus reduces these big ticket items for natives income statements, boosting agg d.
3. How about Richard figure out the difference between 3m illegals with criminal records, and people without criminal records.
4. How about Richard look into the cost of crime and low trust on the economy and its effects on governments giving less infrastructure, welfare and money for public investment.
5. How about Richard pick up ‘An Introduction to Economics’ and while he is at it, look at the empirics of the open border experience without consulting the Peterson Open Borders are Sacred Juice Institute and the Brookings Mexican Nannies make great fuckbuddies’ Institute.
SO FUCKING DUMB.
Academics live in the ivory tower and aren’t expected to know what takes place on Main St.
How about getting rid of the large contingent of Chinese students in our college campuses and making our STEM programs more selective and competitive? Many STEM students of European descent are studying STEM outside of the Anglosphere.
Turning America into a Coca Colaca cheapens everything. That belongs in Asia.
But corporate elites don’t care if a toilet in McDonalds is not working in your neighborhood, as long as it doesn’t hurt their bottom line.
Wait till automation becomes the New Matrix in the Anglo Prole Sphere!
And automation will no doubt tear PP’s IQ world apart, because the lower IQ primitives will suffer mightily, and the smart groups like the Jews and East Asians have adaptive intelligence but not creative talent, who will also lose out.
RR
what the hell is all this low carb stuff your coming out with these days ?
The low carb diet is only sustainable with high protein intake, but the problem with that is that protein spikes insulin too.
An effective LC diet can only work if its mostly fat, which virtually no one can sustain.
But i agree with you on the silliness of the calories in calories out model .
“what the hell is all this low carb stuff your coming out with these days”
Low carb is king. I personally don’t follow it. I follow a calorie and a cross cycling diet myself.
“The low carb diet is only sustainable with high protein intake, but the problem with that is that protein spikes insulin too.”
The point of low carb is to get insulin low. Rating high protein spikes insulin even though blood glucose isn’t spiked. So protein should be kept low, about 15 percent, maybe 20 percent.
“An effective LC diet can only work if its mostly fat, which virtually no one can sustain.”
You’re talking about very low carb ketogenic diets. I don’t recommend those too often. But if someone likes the lifestyle, they can do it. I recommend low carb high fat and moderate protein diets. It works well for my clientele. They’re happy, I’m happy.
Read Feinman, Fung, Eades, and Taubes for more information.
And anyone who says that a kcal is a kcal after being shown it isn’t is n idiot. Let’s say I eat 1200 kcal of sugar for 2 months. Will I continuously lose weight or will I eventually plateau due to constant insulin spikes which doesn’t allow fat to be unlocked out of the adipocyte?
Then the idiots may say oh you have to eat quality foods. So….. They actually agree with me that a kcal isn’t a kcal. It’s idiocy to think that all 5 macros do the same thing once ingested in the body. Is the body a bomb calirometer? No! Different diet qualities will lead to different amounts of weight lost due to the systems of the body. But tell that to anyone who believes the dogma of a calorie being a calorie and they’ll say you’re denying physics. But people who say that a calorie is a calorie are the physics deniers.
Whereas homeostasis ensures balance under many conditions, as a general principle, “a calorie is a calorie” violates the second law of thermodynamics.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15282028
Pumpkin why is the correlation between IQ and money and world success only .4?
Why isn’t the most intelligent person always on top?
Money isn’t as important to them.
Yet the average billionaire has an IQ 160
*Shrugs
Yet the average billionaire has an IQ 160
No, 160 is ridiculously high for anyone, let alone the average for an entire economic class.
The average self-made billionaire is probably 132 (white norms) and the average self-made deca-billionaire might be as high as 151 (white norms)
These numbers are very approximate because there’s not a lot of data among people that successful
https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/11/the-incredible-correlation-between-iq-income/
120-130 should be where most of the billionaires are at, judging by the demeanor of the ones I hear speaking.
Only the self-made billionaires should average 132. The ones who inherited their money from their dads or husbands probably average around 115, so overall, they might average in the 120s.
Hmmm I read an article somewhere that said billionaires were IQ 160 65 years old. Guess I can’t believe everything on the internet
Afrosapiens, check this paper out.
http://jevohealth.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1016&context=journal
I only read the abstract, the paper looks fascinating. I guess it relates to what is referred to as early intellectual stimulation.
I’m going to read it tonight. It does look fascinating. I found this particularly interesting.
The anthropological and developmental evidence suggests the existence of an extended childhood adapted to establish the skills, knowledge, and understanding necessary to become a successful hunter-gatherer.
Looks like a great read. I’ll tell you what I think later.
I just hope they’re not claiming spending days playing world of warcraft at mama’s home until the age of 30 is a positive outcome of evolution.
Doubtful. It looks to be speaking of children’s playing and child hood being an extension of learning important skills for survival. Can’t wait to read it this afternoon. Searching Google last night there’s quite a few papers on this subject.
I have rarely felt so enlightened by a blog conversation link. As a layman, I find this study amazing even though it is possible that some specialists make objections on some parts of the theory.
The first part evokes many topics that’t we’ve been discussing here, including Herculano-Houzel’s theory. The following goes into hardcore neuroscience and makes us realize how far from understanding intelligence HBDers are. I haven’t read the last parts that seem to deal more with educational policy.
This one is definitely a must read. I hope you’ll write a piece about it.
I’ll most definitely write a piece about it. This is very interesting. I definitely realize that HBDers are far from understanding true human intelligence. I remember being very critical about Sternberg’s hypothesis of intelligence but that is beginning to make sense to me now too…. I’m really beginning to believe that culture plays a very big part in our evolution. I reread the end of Herculano-Houzel’s book last night. She believes that the first cultural transference was cooking. Cooking to her is with fire, mashing, dicing and slicing, anything that pre digests food out of the body.
She echoes what Gould wrote for his whole career, that culture is what sets us apart from other hominid that are so similar to us. Herculano-Houzel says that cultural transference and acquisition is the cause of our great feats compared to other hominid. What I’ve been reading this past month is beginning to blow my mind and really have me rethink the origins of human intelligence and human intelligence as a whole.
Funny how one person can have me rethink other theories I discarded (Gould and Sternberg). Herculano-Houzel really has me rethinking human intelligence. My mind is blown.
Cunnane (2010) provides a compelling argument that the most recent diaspora of humans out of Africa and the colonization of the rest of the world, including Oceania and the Americas, coincided with the most recent brain expansion event and was coupled with the development of a new, sophisticated tool technology and much higher degree of cultural innovation than previously observed in the archeological record. This new technology involved a tool kit that was much more diverse, adaptable, and embodied a much greater degree of specialization then prior tool technologies (Mellars, 2006). Furthermore, many of these new tools appeared to be specially designed for extracting animal prey from shoreline environments and waterways (Mellars, 2006; Brown et al., 2012).
Cunnane (2010) provides a compelling argument that the most recent diaspora of humans out of Africa and the colonization of the rest of the world, including Oceania and the Americas, coincided with the most recent brain expansion event
So Cunnane (2010) is saying our brains got bigger around the time we left Africa? Because we needed bigger brains to leave Africa or because surviving the cold outside of Africa required bigger brains?
What I like the most about this study is how recent all the citations are. It compiles the latest of the latest findings that matter to most of our conversations.
“Cunnane (2010) provides a compelling argument that the most recent diaspora of humans out of Africa and the colonization of the rest of the world, including Oceania and the Americas, coincided with the most recent brain expansion event and was coupled with the development of a new, sophisticated tool technology and much higher degree of cultural innovation than previously observed in the archeological record. This new technology involved a tool kit that was much more diverse, adaptable, and embodied a much greater degree of specialization then prior tool technologies (Mellars, 2006). Furthermore, many of these new tools appeared to be specially designed for extracting animal prey from shoreline environments and waterways (Mellars, 2006; Brown et al., 2012).”
What’s your point ? I hope you’re not reading that migration out of Africa provoked brain expansion and technological development because I read the exact opposite.
And have you noticed something ? The study makes no mention of IQ whatsoever.
“Funny how one person can have me rethink other theories I discarded (Gould and Sternberg). Herculano-Houzel really has me rethinking human intelligence. My mind is blown.”
Yeah, it’s funny. Now you understand more why this clique wrote a book called “Scientists respond to the Bell Curve”.
“So Cunnane (2010) is saying our brains got bigger around the time we left Africa? Because we needed bigger brains to leave Africa or because surviving the cold outside of Africa required bigger brains?”
No, he’s saying brain expansion in Africa enabled the technological innovations to colonize the rest of the world.
Here are the quoted studies:
Click to access 9381.full.pdf
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02562227
http://www.imd.inder.cu/adjuntos/article/455/Human%20Brain%20Evolution.pdf#page=55
I finally got my 600 page book on evolutionary “progress”!
Has interviews with E.O. Wilson, Gould, Mayr, Simpson, etc. Read the book PP.
What does the visual puzzles on the WAIS IV measure?
Spatial ability
Oh, I meant what does it specifically measure within spatial ability.