When Alfred Binet invented the first intelligence test circa 1904, he needed a unit of measurement. After all, a stadiometer has inches; a spring scale has pounds; but what could be the unit of measurement for a trait as abstract as intelligence?
He decided on mental age. That is, if you performed as well on his test as an average white six-year old, you have a mental age of six, regardless of what your chronological age. If you performed as well as an average white ten-year-old, you had a mental age of ten etc.
Sometime later, psychologist William Stern suggest one take the ratio of the mental age to the chronological age, and then multiply by hundred to remove the decimal point, and the concept of IQ was born.
But from the beginning, there were problems with the IQ. For one thing, intelligence only increases as a function of age up until about 16 or so, and as we get much older our intelligence declines.
Secondly, even in childhood, the increase in intelligence as a function of age is not always linear.
Third, the scale lacked a true zero point. Someone who had the test score of a newborn baby would have a mental age of zero, but a baby does not have zero intelligence. It’s brain has been developing in the womb for 9 months prior to birth.
Today we no longer calculate IQs the way William Stern suggested, but we still make sure the average is around 100 and the standard deviation is around 15 or 16, since those were the stats the old age ratio scales yielded. But I long for the IQ scales of old, because despite their many flaws, at least they represented something tangible.
To once again anchor IQ tests in something tangible, I propose scores be converted not into mental age, as Binet proposed, but mental brain size. If you perform as well as the average white young adult male with a brain volume of 1400 cc, you have a mental brain volume of 1400, regardless of your actual brain volume. If you perform as well as the average white young adult male with a 1500 cc brain volume, you have a mental brain volume of 1500 etc.
This would anchor IQ scores in concrete physical reality and would be a true ratio scale with a true zero point.
Update, January 8, 2017:
Allow me to clarify the above post with an analogy:
Suppose we had a scale to measure weight, but it could not give us a meaningful number, it could only tell us that person A weighed more than person B. We didn’t know if person A was 500% heavier than B or just 1% heavier than B, all we knew was that he was heavier than B. All the scale could do was rank people.
Well, one was could make the weight scale more useful is we noticed that taller people weigh more than shorter people on average (lots of exceptions). We could then assign each person who stepped on the weight scale, a height, and say person A has the weight of an average 70 cm man, while person B has the weight of an average 60 cm man. Assuming the correlation between height and weight is linear, this would allow us to say person A is 17% heavier than person B, something we could not say when we only had a rank.
Of course this would not imply that height is the only cause of weight, or even causal at all; nor would it imply height and weight are strongly correlated. What it would do is provide a concrete easy to understand true ratio scale with a real zero point to which weight could be anchored
Currently IQ tests can tell us who scored higher than who, but they can’t tell us by what percentage person A exceeds person B on the actual ability in question, so the purpose of this post was merely to suggest they too need to be anchored in a concrete scale with a true zero point, and brain size is one such anchor out of many that might be used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexile
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I read 11 of these books in high school.
https://lexile.com/fab/results/?page=1&keyword=Isaac+Asimov
broken link
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counted wrong, it was 13 of them.
Mathematicians just love ”quantify” things, but qualify, they hate!!
I think Sailer mentioned alt rockers were the highest IQ music group of young people back in the day.
Its sad that alt rock is dead.
you’re a fake.
the japs and the swiss have followed suit.
I think Massive Attack depict the real nature of London very well. Most of London is like this.
The horror of Kinshasa. The horror.
the horror of philosophaster. of course london is shit. but…
music is prole, just like all fine art. that it may be ridiculed and thus be a source of laughter is its only value.
Why do you drink so much? Stop drowning your sorrows in alcohol, dude.
Theroux did a good one on paedos a while back. The physiognomy of paedos is remarkably similar. A kind of zany, odd, perverted or intensely nerdy predator look.
I believe, much like homosexuality, it is largely environmental in its generation but I don’t quite have paedo-dar yet, and I don’t think I want to.
Women have good gaydar though…I suspect women may have good natural paedo-dar too.
Now some say many world cultures normalise sexual relations with young women…but they do it with traditional gender marriage roles in mind, not predation of the Form of the child.
He has other great weird weekends ones on psychotic killers, porn stars, cults, and so on.
PS
Q Why did the BBC have so many paedo presenters and personalities for a few decades?
A I believe paedophilia is an initiation ritual of a certain part of the elite establishment. And some of our elite chums develop a bit of a taste for the young cherry, so to speak. Pizzagate is just the American equivalent. In Norway they completely unmasked it.
Elites love secret clubs like the Freemasons, Bohemian Grove, Rhodes Society, Knights Templar and so on.
There may well be secret societies in the elite like the old Illuminati that are organised to fight for populist causes perhaps today. But the supercomputer in Arizona was designed to search for such groupings of Philosophers.
Dildos may want to check out the porn star one seeing as she watches so much porn.
why wouldn’t i drink so much?
i’m not an injun.
It’s not good for you. You’re a smart guy. Why be so self-destructive?
Those arrested include two elected officials, one teacher and a lawyer.
do you know any more than that piltdown man?
just proves that even in norway, the richest real country in the world with basically no social problems there will still be evil…anti-Cynics.
crime is not entirely due to bourgeois decadence, just almost all of it. what i expect one sees post revolution is economic crimes disappear, but perversion continues…at a much lower rate. n/a appears to have stopped blogging, but he had one post on how homosexuality is more common the more unequal a society.
Near and after the collapse of the Soviet Union, crime statistics moved sharply and uniformly upward. From 1991 to 1992, the number of officially reported crimes and the overall crime rate each showed a 27 percent increase; the crime rate nearly doubled between 1985 and 1992. By the early 1990s, theft, burglary, and other acts against property accounted for about two-thirds of all crime in Russia. Of particular concern to citizens, however, was the rapid growth of violent crime, including gruesome homicides.
it’s funny that in the 50s homosexuality was branded a communist conspiracy. it was really more a capitalist conspiracy.
…homosexuality remained a serious criminal offense until it was repealed in 1993.
what’s brown and sound like a bell?
Deng Xiaoping!
to get rich is glorious…open the window for fresh air, you have to expect some flies to blow in…
would that american conservatards understood…
It doesn’t matter if a cat is black or white, so long as it catches mice.
what do you mean it’s not good for me?
do you actually know anything about alcohol and health?
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2017200,00.html
But the supercomputer in Arizona was designed to search for such groupings of Philosophers.
How many are there? Why look for them? (military supercomputer?)
what does miso-sopher think of the theory that putin is still a communist? and that boxing day 91 was kgb kayfabe?
another point in its support is…all of RT’s english speaking people are extreme left wingers by present day standards.
There’s a Russian word for “fake news”. It’s “news”.
I didn’t know cirrhosis is good for you
i didn’t know that either. maybe you really are a 23 year old squaw.
do you know what killed andy warhol? too much water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication#Notable_cases
odd that anthony andrews survived a case of water poisoning. isn’t it?
tylenol…In the United States and the United Kingdom it is the most common cause of acute liver failure.
all of alcohol’s irreversible effects are rare even among very heavy drinkers.
this is not controversial squaw. unless one drinks a lot more than i do it’s just a risk factor. only retards don’t know this. cue peepee-tard.
for example…how many drinks must the average man consume per day in order to surpass a non-drinker in risk for ischemic heart disease?
any guesses?
the answer is something like 8!
look at the curve for all cause mortality not adjusted for social status. the guy who has 7 drinks per day has lower mortality than the guy who doesn’t drink. it’s pretty clear that other things, like being stupid, are a lot worse for you than drinking.
anyone who doesn’t get drunk every day is a prole.
Watch this.
And water intoxication is very rare. Alcoholism kills how many? In that Time magazine article, it says that moderate drinkers had the longest life expectancy. Moderate drinking ≠ alcoholism.
In The Razor’s Edge, Larry lists temperance as one of the 4 virtues he plans to live by…
I think moderate drinking can be part of a healthy lifestyle but drinking everyday can’t be good for you
and that curve is for both genders and all sizes, all races…so it’s misleading.
i’m 6’1″ 200 lbs of muscle and 100% western european and male.
i’ve never consumed more than 8 drinks per day for an extended period.
i may develop health issues from drinking, but it is unlikely. and they’ll be caught before they’re irreversible.
but if you had 8 drinks per day you’d have a problem…oh believe me.
1. it depends on how “alcoholism” is defined.
2. however it’s defined it does NOT increase mortality on average until you’re drinking WAY too much…more than i do.
3. however it’s defined its ill-effects will be grossly exaggerated in the anglo-prole sphere.
4. the risks are cirrhosis, throat and oral cancer, cerebellar atrophy, high blood pressure…
extremely rare risks include WK, DTs, and Marchiafava-Bignami.
accelerated whole brain atrophy…this is largely reversible and the effects are a great example of statistically significant but otherwise insignificant. that is, your brain may shrink, but even if does it won’t shrink by an appreciable amount.
although the evidence appears dispositive that excessive drinking causes throat and oral cancer some studies find no effect. that is…the effect of eating lots of fruits and vegetables reduces the risk by as much as alcohol increase it…and heavy drinkers never smokers may still be in contact with second hand smoke. furthermore the drinker’s risk appears to be genetic, because ethanol by itself is not a mutagen, but its metabolite acetaldahyde is. people vary in how quickly their bodies turn over acetaldehyde.
the main harm for so-called “alcoholics” isn’t the alcohol, it’s from the rehab industry and anglo-prole society…AA doesn’t work, and it’s a cult…rehab doesn’t work. it’s a scam.
the risk of throat and oral cancer is increased by as much as 3x for heavy drinkers, never smoker…but in some studies there is no effect…
and this is taking one’s lifetime risk from 0.05% to .15% or something like that. most cases of these cancers are in people who smoke and drink.
acid reflux is a much bigger risk than alcohol believe it or not.
Approximately 0.5 percent of men and women will be diagnosed with esophageal cancer at some point during their lifetime, based on 2011-2013 data.
yeah but if you have the choice of drinking immoderately or not drinking and have the same mortality rate i opt for the immoderate drinking.
2 drinks per day is never enough for me, so i choose the former.
a drink does have an objective definition. 0.6 oz pure EtOH.
Not true. IQ has much more to do with convulsions in the right areas, dopamine densities, and BNF concentrations than mere brain size. IQ at its current level is orders of magnitude better than what you propose, which would simply be as blatantly wrong as the old scale.
Metabolic effecientcy would be a good measure.
of course it might be meaningless, just a reflection of how alcohol is a luxury good…but is it? what fraction of its cost comes from taxes? it didn’t used to be when people were a lot poorer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b084zk6z

here’s that japanese retard again: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201010/why-intelligent-people-drink-more-alcohol
Your scale is wrong, intelligence is not a function of brain size. The IQ scale is ok, but it must be understood as an environmental/cultural scale instead of a biological one.
So many things you say, so little relevant or factually correct things you say…
PP blog become a Super-Nanny…
https://media.tenor.co/images/96fbee9afe24a7928246d81bee38180f/raw
Arthur Jensen wrote an entire book about creating a physical, real-world basis for IQ. It’s called Clocking the Mind, from 2007 I think, and it’s largely about using reaction-time measurements as that basis.
My hunch is that homosexuality increases the more feminine an environment becomes. Wealth and opulence = femininity.
Hence the fairly instinctive, and correct judgements, by those in the lower classes historically, the the aristocrats could be effeminate.
I had a very rich friend back in London and mentioned that to him. In your social circle, I bet you’ll find a lot more homosexuals than I will back in my hillbilly hometown.
He mentioned sth to the effect of, well rich people are more tolerant. Why?
(a) Lower testosterone
(b) Many of their friends or a relative may be gay
(c) Effeminate environments are welcoming of masculinity…ah very welcoming.
Now what predicts paedophilia.
Well we know paedos are mostly men, and mostly homosexual in orientation.
Ergo, paedophilia is what happens when an environment may be exceptionally feminine? Hard to know. Most of the psychologists studying these topics were tied to a chair and water boarded with rac-ism, bow to Zion, and open your borders educashion.
RE PUTIN
I see what you’re getting at. Putin isn’t communist per se, any more than the USSR was.
He is simply the Deep State reasserting itself after Zion tried to asset strip the country. In Russia’s case the secret police were the KGB.
People that hew to ideologies have extraordinary problems in real life politics. Putin isn’t stupid like that.
RT is only left wing for American/Western viewers. I have no idea if it is actually available in Russia. I do think they have good programmes now and then compared to (((American)))) media.
But patriotism and nationalism generally involve left wing policies if you look at the 20th century.
People like Pinochet and the Shah are not nationalists, but American stooges. So they were rah rah, without the left wing policies because United Fruit Co. said so.
Western culture have changed a lot since earlier XX… specially via USA.
Maybe a species who are programmed to follow certain evolutionary culture will becoming disturbed when this culture will being changed in every generation and because seems more expensive to develop a masculine organism (thanks to the testosterone tend to be more variable and environmentally sensitive) than a feminine ones, if the man is the mutation of the woman, so ”organically immature men” tend to look more feminine…
or niet, niet, just niet
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/hitlerparody/images/6/64/IB_Hitler_nein.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150726035244
http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/panic-discos-la-devotee-clearly-celebrates-hollywoods-satanic-mind-control-system/
ridiculous
christianism is already ridiculous
satanism is even more…
Is Dildos:
(a) NSA troll
(b) Big fan of porn as inferred by xies imagery in xer’s word choice
(c) a cis gender man of unknown trans caucasian extraction
(d) all of the above
Dildos has veird hours of posting, almost 24/7 indicating a surveillance job
Dildos is also canadian like Pumpkin, who I imagine is in some sort of IT security, cybersecurity or analysis space.
Dildos is a colleage of pumpkins from work masquerading as some idiot girl legal student who stumbled upon an obscure enough blog from her normal browsing routine
Dildos is capable of higher order thinking than her free speech would infer
Dildos knew a lot about the thread as xie started commenting causing Pumpkin to ask whether xer was an old commentator
Dildos is a part time comedian
Dildos won’t answer whether I’ve cracked it.
You’re a fucking fucktarded fucktard
The corollary to my homosexuality is risin’ theory is that much of the media which promotes black men in particular is a perpetrated by latent or full blown homosexuals working in advertising, PR, marketing and other corporate functions.
I think that makes sense as homo men have quite distinct tastes in men than even women in general have, owing to their test levels.
~Let’s just say if I’m walking down the street and I see a white woman surrounded by asian men I’ll be somewhat shocked.
Depending on one own’s test level, the irritation levels around homosexual men start to spike. Thats why homosexuals have been persecuted. It started instinctively before people came along to give a rationale for it. But its inherently instinctual to want to beat up homos and make fun of them.
Am I right? Eh Eh Eh
A Jew homo.
That would be the ultimate pinata.
Let’s just say if I’m walking down the street and I see a white woman surrounded by asian men in an advertisement I’ll be somewhat shocked
The further derivative is this explains why black men, even raised in liberal environments have much irritation around homosexual men. I know brotha. I feel it as well. BROTHA.
Uncle Jew meanwhile corrals brothas, homos, idiot women, and other fringe people to attack the fabric of society.
I should charge you people for some of this knowledge.
That doesn’t make sens because the correlation is not 1 between brain size and IQ and because nobody sees what is a person brainsize, you see only the size of the head. And then the correlation is only 0.3 between IQ and headsize.
Then finding a maximum IQ and saying it’s 100% is roughly equivalent to a deviation IQ. But it would be a bit weird and offensive, because the average person in intelligence shoud be the 100% one, the normal level of intelligence.
Let’s give an example. The test has 60 questions, average score is 10, sd is 10. Suppose you have submitted many tests of 60 questions to the same millions of people, and the highest robust result is 50, because between 50-60, the correlation between score decreases (pb with MCQ). So you choose to fix your point there at 50. Then having
100 IQ would be 20%
115 IQ – 40%
130 IQ – 60%
145 IQ – 80%
160 IQ – 100%
This scale is more telling but quite offensive. you could score the same way people relatively to their beauty using an app where people would rank people’s physic. Then you would be told, your 25% beautifull, wich is fine, because you’re just above the average. Not good for ego.
You rather had the 100% at the average level, and then what you get is the regular deviation IQ you already have.
That doesn’t make sens because the correlation is not 1 between brain size and IQ
The correlation is not 1 between childhood age and intelligence either, and yet mental age was used as the unit to measure childhood intelligence.
and because nobody sees what is a person brainsize, you see only the size of the head.
We don’t have to see the subject’s brain size. Their score would simply be the brain size level they performed at. So if you scored 1400, it means you’re as smart as a typical young white man with a 1400 cc brain size. If you score 2000, you’re as smart as a typical young white man with a 2000 cc brain size etc.
Then finding a maximum IQ and saying it’s 100% is roughly equivalent to a deviation IQ..
I didn’t say anything about that
Bruno is right, intelligence relative to age makes a lot more sense than judging intelligence relative to brain size.
And why not simply finding a quantitative measure of intelligence like there are quantitative measures of weight and height ?
And why not simply finding a quantitative measure of intelligence like there are quantitative measures of weight and height ?
There are some ratio measures of intelligence: A memory span of 10 digits is twice as long as a memory span of 5 digits. A vocab of 60,000 words is twice as big as a vocab of 30,000 words. But most abilities are not measured in a way that can be scaled that way. Think even of your law exams: Scoring 100% does not mean you know twice as much about law as someone who scored 50%; it only means you knew twice as much of the content of that specific exam, which was arbitrarily chosen. It’s much easier to create ordinal scales (rank order) than ratio scales.
For more on the four levels of measurement, see:
http://www.mymarketresearchmethods.com/types-of-data-nominal-ordinal-interval-ratio/
I know but why can’t we find a quantitative measure of cognitive ability that is objective and has a material basis ?
“it only means you knew twice as much of the content of that specific exam, which was arbitrarily chosen.”
Yes, grades are arbitrary but teachers design their grading system in a way that is relevant to the program, it’s not random. So if I score 100, I know twice more about what matters to the teacher than someone who scores 80.
I know but why can’t we find a quantitative measure of cognitive ability that is objective and has a material basis ?
That would be ideal, but so far such measures have been rare
Who scores 50 lol.
PP, that’s something that I often argued with Robert Lindsay but I don’t know if I made that point here.
This messed up IQ scale is messing up every data that’s built around it. What is the fundamental validity of any correlation or heritability estimate if someone with an IQ of 110 is actually 101% more intelligent than someone with an IQ of 100 and not 110% more, whereas an IQ of 80 is actually only 50% of the intelligence of someone scoring 100%. How can we use a measurement whose units aren’t measuring the same quantity all across the scale like meters and grams do.
And I might be wrong but dividing, multiplying, averaging, subtracting or adding units that aren’t quantities makes very little sense.
This messed up IQ scale is messing up every data that’s built around it. What is the fundamental validity of any correlation or heritability estimate if someone with an IQ of 110 is actually 101% more intelligent than someone with an IQ of 100 and not 110% more, whereas an IQ of 80 is actually only 50% of the intelligence of someone scoring 100%. How can we use a measurement whose units aren’t measuring the same quantity all across the scale like meters and grams do.
Well since modern deviation IQs, not be confused with the old mental age ratio scales, have been forced to fit a Gaussian curve in the biologically normal population, they do make good interval scales, so you can say that the difference between IQ 50 and IQ 100 is the same as the difference between IQ 100 and IQ 150. Unfortunately, we have difficulty extending the Gaussian curve below IQ 40, because there are so few biologically normal people in that range, so scores below that level tend to be quite meaningless.
But for 99.9% of the U.S. population, IQs test are good interval scales, meaning the scale is composed of equal intervals at different points in the scale. However IQ tests have never been valid ratio scales, because they’ve never had a true zero point, so what you can’t say is that IQ 100 is twice as smart as IQ 50.
Any normally distributed trait (height, weight) can be expressed on the IQ scale. It’s just a matter of converting the distribution into Z scores, and then multiplying each Z by 15 and adding 100.
See:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2015/09/30/what-is-a-z-score-a-definition-2/
With respect to heritability, all that matters is that you have an interval scale which we do, so that you can hope to have a linear relationship between phenotype and genotype. Because heritability roughly speaking is just the squared correlation between genotype and phenotype, so a heritability of 0.6 implies a genotype-phenotype correlation of 0.77, which implies that for every 1 SD increase in polygenetic IQ score, actual IQ should increase on average by 0.77 SD. Unfortunately they’re a long way off from getting polygenetic scores that correlate anywhere near that high with actual scores, even for traits as uncontroversial as height, where the correlation is 0.4 at the most.
As average brain mass increases, average IQ goes up.
Every 14.5cc should increase IQ by 1 point as an adult.
Here is an interesting article – you perhaps know – about the log-normal distribution of IQ : http://hiqnews.megafoundation.org/John_Scoville_Paper.htm
I didn’t find the Vernon study but it looks that the ratio IQ he found were in line with predictions made assuming a log-normal distribution of score.
–> This point is interesting because it means that the repartition of differences in IQ are not less important that IQ scale let us think, but even more. For 2/3 people, normal and log-normal distribution are the same, but then it changed.
So someone in the top 10% , no change, someone in the 0,1% has scored you thought to find 10 times less, and the 1% of this latter group, is one thousand times more frequent. People with 4.3 sd, you would imagine having 3 of them in the USA, but actually (if Vernon is right), they are 3 000 people !