Commenter “purpletigerbot” asked me to investigate the new GRE. Here are the means and standard deviations (SDs symbolized as σ) of the verbal and quantitative sections of the people who take this test:
The distribution appears to be fairly Gaussian.
In a normal curve, we expect people who are 2 SDs above and below the mean to be in the top and bottom 2% respectively, and that’s more or less true of new GRE takers, on both Verbal and Quantitative sections:
Self-selection among new GRE test takers
In order to convert the GRE scales to IQ equivalents, we need to know how self-selected new GRE takers are. The average GRE IQ of people who took the old GRE was about 114 with an SD of about 15. We know this because we can compare their verbal GREs with the verbal GREs of the subset of test takers who also took the verbal old SAT, and the verbal old SAT can be converted to an IQ scale (and then equated to old verbal GRE scores) since special studies have administered it to the general U.S. teenaged population.
In other words, people who took the old GRE were about as smart as the average college grad of that era. It’s a bit surprising that such a restricted population would have an SD as large as the general U.S. population SD (15 on the IQ scale) but that’s what the data seems to show and it may reflect the diversity of graduate level majors different students pursue, and it also may reflect the fact that some GRE takers go on to get a PhD, while others don’t even finish their undergrad, and took the test on a lark.
If people who took the old GRE were as smart as the average college grad, those who take the new GRE are probably likewise, but because the average college grad has become dumber (compared to all Americans) since the 20th century, their average IQ would now be about 111, though presumably the SD of the GRE takers is still 15.
Converting verbal, Quantitative, and Composite new GRE scores to IQ equivalents
Converting the new verbal GRE to IQ (U.S.) norms is simply a matter of calculating the verbal new GRE Z score with respect to the new GRE population, and then calculating what IQ that Z score equates to in the new GRE population’s IQ distribution:
Verbal IQ (U.S. norms) = [(New verbal GRE score – 150.22)/8.45](15) + 111
And similarly for the new math GRE:
Math IQ (U.S. norms) = [(New Quantitative GRE scores – 152.47)/8.45](15) + 111
To convert the new GRE V + Q composite into IQ, we must determine the mean and SD of the composite in the GRE population. The mean can be determined simply by adding the mean V and mean Q, which gives 302.69. To get the SD of the composite, we must know the correlation between these subscales. Among the subset of people who took the old GRE after also taking the SAT, the correlation was 0.56. If we assume the correlation is the same for all GRE takers, and also for new GRE takers, then we can apply the following formula to get the SD of new GRE V + Q composite:
r is the correlation between the two tests that make up the composite and σ is the standard deviation of the two tests.
The above formula gives an SD of 15.35 for the new GRE V + Q composite. Thus:
Composite IQ (U.S. norms) = [(New GRE VQ composite – 302.69)/15.35](15) + 111
Ceiling and floor of the combined V + Q new GRE
What the last formula tells us is that a perfect V + Q combined score of 340 on the new GRE equates to an IQ of 147 (U.S. norms) or 146 (U.S. white norms). If all American young adults took the new GRE (instead of just the educated), we’d expect only one in 1,157 to hit the ceiling on both V and Q and only one in 924 white American young adults to do so.
The formula also tells us that someone who obtained the minimum score of 130 on both V and Q, for a combined score of 260, would have a composite IQ of 69 (U.S. norms) or 65 (U.S. white norms). If one considers college admission tests to be valid IQ tests, and if the person who obtained such a score was an American born English first language speaker who was motivated to do well, such a low score would indicate Educable (mild) Mental Retardation or a learning disability of some kind.
Pumpkin Person 
I haven’t been able to get those paintings out of my head in the gym. That poor woman. Watch the video.
Kim Noble….
Oh god.
i suggested you were a ZAer before suggesting you were a paki. but what explains the putin shtick?
do you know who killed olof palme?
what’s your opinion of apartheid and the vela incident? was terre blanche a hero or a buffoon?
Its a joke Mugabe. The media keeps saying Putin controls Trump and is brainwashing everyone so I troll people saying Putin controls my mind also. Olof Palme I have no idea. A lot of saffers I meet here hate what happened to South Africa. In my home nation, many of the lads I went to school with were Saffers. We had an influx in the early 2000s.
the very idea of “fake news” as a problem is far more concerning than actual fake news. when journalists actually do their job…very rare…their reports can be dismissed as “fake news”.
there are libel and slander laws.
merkel has proved she’s pure evil so many times. this is just another.
so you’re a rhodesian? namibian? australian?
The media keeps saying Putin controls Trump and is brainwashing everyone…
i didn’t get the joke, because i didn’t know the media said that. hillary said it once in debate ii, iirc. it was ridiculous.
Yes, I was the only one that saw the funny side to how absurd the claim was. It was precious bodily fluids stuff.
Mugabe is an idiot. Jenna Talackova is a winner. He’s just disparaging her because she has First Nations blood. Mugabe is racist and evil.
“Deal with it!” is racist and evil.
i agree.
Dude do you know what my people have gone through? I know people who went to residential schools where they were systematically traumatized. I’m lucky I didn’t have to go through that shit. You said I’m racist. Ok. You do know that Native Americans are the most disadvantaged community in North America, right? Did the colonists commit genocide on East Asians? On the Quebecois? You have no idea what you’re talking about. My people are worse off than blacks. You don’t give a fuck because you’re a piece of shit.
“my people”?
this just proves what a racist you are.
i’m 1/8th andaman pygmy, but i don’t identify as one.
given your “winners/losers” mentality i wouldn’t be surprised if you’re just another elizabeth warren, a fake.
Tim: I’m Jewish, you’re not a dentist. You have no idea what my people have been through.
Jerry: The Jews?
Tim: No, the dentists. You know, we have the highest suicide rate of any profession?
Jerry: Is that why it’s so hard to get an appointment?
“You do know that Native Americans are the most disadvantaged community in North America, right?”
Power plus prejudice equals ‘racism’ (whatever that means), right?
Racism
”I will kill you because you are white”
”I will not give this job to you …. because ….. you are white”
”That guy is a genius… because he is the same race than me”
It’s not pathological altruism the fundamental weakness of whites but the disposition to fair play mixed with tons of stupidity/ignorance…
they are more prone to play fair, nothing wrong to ”play fair”… but…. based on wrong premisses and guided by magical thinking (ideology, culture or religion).
what is a virtue become a curse.
Santo that’s my point. “Racism” is genetic interests in action. It’s a word made by a Soviet Jew anyway, so that should tell you all you need to know.
so you agree it exists, you just think the tone surrounding it is unjust?
RR has more “subtlety” than a few commentators just because of that…
hmm….
RR,
genetic interest is not exactly racism.
THIS is exactly what leftoids and zionists want you believe in, period.
”“my people”?”
Fellatiolatti,
bingo!!!
That way, you’re going to heaven, ooooh yeaaaah…
John podesta has this painting hanging in the house.
This is what John Podesta does in his pool parties:
Then his cult butchers them in a kill room.
Pizzagate is the most shocking scandal in political history.
It makes Mao, Stalin….even Dulles and Beria look better somehow.
Hey PP, did you know that Huey Lewis had a perfect score on the maths section of the Old SAT? Given that he did, could you guesstimate what his official IQ might be?
I’m going to do a general post about the old SAT & the WAIS before i can get into specifics.
Can you explain the reason behind the spectacular rise of women in PhD programs?
Of course, they tend to get PhDs in subjects like literature, language, or slightly more difficult disciplines like Sociology.
Well there are more women in college in every western nation; ipso facto, there will be more PhDs.
A more interesting question is whether women can contribute anything novel, insightful or new to any area of study.
Lawrence Summers didn’t think so:
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2005/1/14/summers-comments-on-women-and-science/
I agree with him to an extent. Its obvious women are more a bit intelligent on average, but not at either the genius extreme, nor more likely to be retarded either.
They also lean verbal.
This why there are barely any women aspergers….
But there are many women with anxiety/BPD or personality disorders suggesting a schiz leaning.
I would thus suggest that women are more suited to the arts than science…and indeed..
I suggest that that is the historical record: in music, acting, literature, poetry, painting, design and fashion.
If you lean S, bucks to barrell, you’re going to be better than the average person if you pick up a musical instrument or a paintbrush.
To my knowledge, the only aspy big time musician was Gary Numan but as I read his reflections and watch interviews and see the colours and themes in his music, he has been misdiagnosed….he’s an introverted schizoid.
Michael Jackson is the gold standard Schizotypal.
Mel Gibson a great example of paranoid schizo…in fact he even made a movie called Conspiracy Theory….and about UFOs….and he was HBD before it was kool!!!!
“Well, if you walk around like that, you know you’re going to get raped by a pack of….”
Hahahahahahahaha.
So true. So true, Mel.
I’ll watch Hacksaw Ridge in the cinema to support your comeback.
more concern trolling.
mel gibson is NOT a paranoid schizo…you fucking fucktard.
if he suffers from anything it’s very mild manic depression/hypomania…like scorsese and steve shoe…the guy is too intense.
Nailed on paranoid schiz disorder.
Look at the eyes.
The World Health Organization’s ICD-10 lists paranoid personality disorder as (F60.0) Paranoid personality disorder.[6]
It is characterized by at least three of the following:
excessive sensitivity to setbacks and rebuffs;
tendency to bear grudges persistently, i.e. refusal to forgive insults and injuries or slights;
suspiciousness and a pervasive tendency to distort experience by misconstruing the neutral or friendly actions of others as hostile or contemptuous;
a combative and tenacious sense of personal rights out of keeping with the actual situation;
recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding sexual fidelity of spouse or sexual partner;
tendency to experience excessive self-importance, manifest in a persistent self-referential attitude;
preoccupation with unsubstantiated “conspiratorial” explanations of events both immediate to the patient and in the world at large.
Women are no better than men when it comes to the arts. The arts can be as masculine as you want it to be. Supposedly, women are better at language processing than men, so why are many women are only monolingual, especially those in the states?
It would be accurate to say women are better at arts than men.
But yeah, men are better overall.
Apologies, should read ‘better at arts than science’.
my God you’re a moron.
1. there are no such things as personality disorders, and schizophrenia isn’t a personality disorder anyway. it’s categorized a “thought disorder” iirc.
2. the “symptoms” you list characterize everyone except the last…preoccupation with unsubstantiated “conspiratorial” explanations of events both immediate to the patient and in the world at large.
Mugabe has a Phd in psychiatry from McDonald’s University.
He came second in his class behind the Hamburglar.
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/ronaldmcdonald/images/4/41/Hamburglar_%26_tray_of_Cheeseburgers.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150522025039
Above: Mr. Hamburglar accepting his hamburgers awards from the American Psychiatric Association after diagnosing a record 10/4 people with multiple personality disorder, circa 1996
When organism can’t adapt to the certain environment he can become disordered or with personality disorder. There are certain types that the lack of adaptation to the certain environment increase their disorder in psychossomatic way while there are other types where the intrinsicability/genetic charge/role-in behavior is so high that people already born like that…
exactly in the analogical case of diabetes type 1 (unborn disorder) and type 2 (organic-somatically possible to become disordered)….
People who born with diabetes (type 1) can’t avoid become like that, if they already born with this disease while people with diabete-suscetibility can avoid become diabetic if they want.
In the case of schizophrenia, most of the cases appear during the final maturation period of the brain, and is indicating that during this crucial phase, something wrong happens inside the brain, triggering the symptoms of schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is similar to programmed obsolescence, where products are currently made to last little, to increase the profits of human beasts that are almost always in power.
A person who is born with a schizophrenic disposition and discovers early on through genetic testing as if he had been born to “spoil” early.
Thought patterns are fundamental aspect of personality, so it’s not incorrect to say ”schizophrenia spectrum is a personality disorder” because affect personality**
Interesting. What do you think is the g-loading of the new GRE? (both math and verbal)
The same as the SAT. I’m doing yet another post on the SAT’s correlation with conventional IQ and g so more details to come
PP: Do you believe that protecting one’s genetic interests (as in supporting one’s ethnic/racial group) is always a sign of high IQ?
People who are right wing, are usually lower in IQ and protective of one’s genetic interest. But speaking of French Canada, the average Québécois has a higher IQ than a Manitoban, and Québec is quite protective of its identity, more than any other province of Canada, which is almost always Anglo based.
PP: Do you believe that protecting one’s genetic interests (as in supporting one’s ethnic/racial group) is always a sign of high IQ?
I believe that figuring out how to advance your goals is the essence of intelligence, but many high IQ people are so complex that they might pursue goals that most can’t relate to (self-actualization as lion would say, philosophical ideals etc) so they might appear to lack common sense to proles who only care about their genetic & financial interests, but in reality, they’re just at a higher level.
But the high IQ people who most interest me are those who pursue the most primal goals (money, power, genes) because it’s fascinating to see super smart people play the same game normal people play
And this is why you love to talk about Askhenazi Jews, but many of them are also intermarrying non-Jews as we speak and diluting their genes and culture. I also think America’s elites are now very confused of their significance, simply because America is one big mess. Even sociopaths succumb to a deep freeze when things don’t go the way they want them to be. And most Americans are proles, simply because of their obvious interest in financial gain that is possible in every facet of life with America.
It would make sense that French Canadians have higher IQs, for the sheer fact that Québec is more conducive to self actualization than a province like Ontario or British Columbia, which focuses more on financial interests that also define America.
You’d agree me that America is also a cultural desert, because people don’t care for the promotion of different cultures, only when politicians are talking about it. Interestingly, it was not completely like this in the past. For some reason petty consumption accelerated under the rise of the Internet, transformed America into a complete wasteland of consumerism.
“I believe that figuring out how to advance your goals is the essence of intelligence”
At least you said “I believe”, because that’s not what intelligence is.
PP,
you think adaptation is intelligence, yes, based on the vague, broad but correct idea that ”intelligence is also behavior itself”, it’s ok, even the stupid behaviors… all behaviors are based on the pre-conceived and subjectively/personally correct thoughts and ideas…
calculation errors are part of this dynamics but everything we think is minimally thought to be correct…
BUT what define adaptation is not intelligence, intelligence is, of course, minimally to maximally required to adapt, depend how well adapted/fited you desire to be…
What define adaptation is
submission to the environment (environmental needs).
below or above this environmental needs will be fatal to be ”ideally’ adapted.
And in the low-cultural societies, of course the ”smartest” or any other virtuous type will be less adapted than
the avg joey
and
the anti-personality types, the human social chameleons…
important fraction of the elites are not so different than important fraction of the proles.
Santo — In low cultural societies, the smartest types make a move away to higher cultural entities. Of course, smarter people are more selfish on a more evolved level and do not conform easily seen with lower IQ individuals. They want to get away from people who degrade their sense of being. Intellectually speaking….
In the New World, North America, French Canada is the highest IQ region with the highest cultural output. It also resembles Western Europe more than any place else in the New World.
High culture = High IQ
Low culture = Low IQ
High culture symbolizes civic engagement and participation. Cities with civic engagement are a product of high IQ individuals. American cities lack civic engagement. Even cities like Madrid and Barcelona, Southern Euro regions, their citizens are more engaged with their city than residents in New York or San Francisco.
” Southern Euro regions, their citizens are more engaged with their city than residents in New York or San Francisco.”
But i think in middle ”America” people will be more engaged in civic engagement and one the reason is that they are more ethnically AND culturally homogeneous**
Multicultural metropolis tend to have lower civic engagement anyway is not*
People in little towns are more forced to interact in personal way with other people than in big towns.
But the cultural and ethnic factor also seems quite important to increase or to decrease this type of collective activity.
Hispanic America also tend to have lower civic engagement*
Anglo poof societies only care about work and the material/consumption output that comes along with it. They encourage a perpetual servant/slave mentality, where it does not help in the development of a sound character. Also, it’s no surprise to anyone, that Anglo societies are the best countries to find a job and work yourself to death.
What you say is true, but Middle America is prole, and its homogeneous population is not the same as the bourgeois of Western Europe. So civic engagement is seen as less cultured, more rough in character, with an emphasis on prole characteristics…sports, drunkenness and so forth.
The first comment, agree very well.
Freedom = work**
Your second comment, whatever civic engagement is prole or not, still is civic engagement.
Well, what europeans to do differently than anglo proles in their civic engagements**
(i repeat civic engagement thousand times… oops,,, again(
The Continental Euro Zone is now at its apex, including Spain, less so of Italy and never Greece. Apex, as in the highest level of civic engagement in culture and politics. Italy and Greece are lagging due to the corruption and lower trust of their citizens. Despite their flaws, all Southern Euros are culturally and socially superior than Northern Euros.
In reality, Anglo Proles are neither achieving nor really participating in civic duty, because there are too many ideologies in their multicultural societies. Anglos are also inherently less sophisticated than Continentals. They live by a different standard, but in comparison, they are culturally and socially inferior to all Continentals. Anglo nations are just “large companies” and not really countries with a national identity.
There are profound differences between intellectual and cultural. I can’t explain, but in my opinion, France is the most intellectual and Spain is the most cultural. Low countries like the Netherlands, Belgium and the Nordic nations are somewhat in between these 2 qualities. Anglo nations are none of these 2 things.
Industrialization reshape deeply UK more than any other country and protestant reform also contributed to reduce cultural and intellectual issues in this country.
But in terms of civic engagement Anglos are the most engaged. What many research has showed.
Flawed research, because Anglo societies have many ideologies and different people in their major cities so less unity needed for civic engagement. Anglos are also not very intellectually inclined, so less curious about issues and less likely to challenge the status quo.
And Americans are the least culturally and intellectually oriented, unless it is about Hollywood pop culture and American history. Generally, Americans are not very curious outside of the Anglosphere.
American Bookdealers for collectors, I’ve seen only selling with a narrow range of topics, not many interesting titles, only about American and English subjects.
Even Southern Euro bookdealers, I’ve seen visit the US in the bookfairs, deal with a wide range of topics, authors, and civilizations. The French are the most intellectual inclined, selling books in Chinese, Japanese, even in African languages.
* French Speaking Montréal similar to NYC and Toronto, is very multicultural in civic scene, but with a lot more civic engagement among all groups, especially the White population. But the Muslims and Africans also want to be seen as mainstream. So essentially, Anglo cities are truly inferior when compared to other non-English western cities.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-imprinted-brain/201611/can-one-be-autistic-and-bipolar-the-same-time
as the interviewer knows…the US is NOT a “mobile society”…relative to most other developed countries. weiner has been sold the american ideology.
weiner is a closeted jew…obviously…
and an example of paranoia…he’s confused fantasy and reality.
1. people want to believe that their betters are better…really, so they will invent their better betters even when they don’t exist.
2. ralph “lauren” is a jew.
3. if the wasp establishment ever existed it doesn’t anymore. this myth which weiner and lauren have made their fortune from is just an expression of the universal human desire for an aristocracy.
lilly pulitzer was married to a jew…
so the better interpretation of the above is…
jews lie…
lie…
and lie…
and…
lie!
the myth of the wasp establishment, which no longer exists if it ever did, is promoted by jews…
why?
to distract the masses from seeing the reality.
EGI is an instinct or a reflex with them.
French Psychoanalyst, Jacques Lacan said America was already a dead corpse in the late 60’s/early 70’s.
His diatribe against American Psychoanalysts was the following: They were always striving and obedient, and slaves to capitalism.
And most people in this field were the Judah Tribesmen like Freud with a few White American goys sprinkled here and there.
Why do you insist that being a top dog in America meant being a top dog in the world?
Just because the Star of David gang dug themselves a hole in New York City after the Holocaust, doesn’t mean they’re superior over others.
And the French were indeed the soothsayers of the Anti-American/Anglo world. The French Naturalists of the 18th century said that North America had weak and unimpressive animals. Later, it would meant the White dregs that immigrated to what is the United States. The French view their French Canadian cousins as proles, but the Anglo Proles in the New World were just bottom tier lumprenproles.
MUGABE – It’s not even about the so-called ‘American WASP elite’ and whatnot…
It’s about historical love of the symbolism of power, the public face of it, only ONE of the types of power PP was discussing.
I.E. literal European royalty, a sheikh, etc.
People like the Jews were essentially socially marginalized (for better or worse, I don’t want to get into that), despite Economic successes.
Because of all this; Jews fancy themselves being Kings and Queens with all the symbolism of power. They’re not all content with doing what they do now.
Ivanka Trump as the first Jewish first daughter?
Does it make a difference?
NO
but it’s attractive because of the historical reasons discussed above.
Dang it PP there’s no need for this moderation.
There are two commentators causing issues here, that’s all.
You’re punishing all of us for the behavior of a few.
Most people here are not being moderated. Not sure why you are…I’ll look into it later
South Park is really rockin it this year.
Thanks for the post PP. Your eqn would put me at around145ish IQ, which I imagine is too high based on my real life outcomes >_<
Anyways, I always enjoy these sort of standardized test/education/IQ related posts. It is amazing in our anti-HBD/IQ world that highly g-loaded exams are still allowed to exist and be commonly used. Their predictive ability is just too powerful to allow the PC police to get their hands on 'em to ruin.
Japaneses are more, on avg, dolicho than continental east asians*
I noticed that myself…some Japanese have narrow faces, not found among the Chinese.
When I was younger, I thought he was a genius. He seems like a schizo with his writings. Maybe long head individuals are more schizo in nature.
Well, blacks are more dolicho and more prone to be schizo is not*
”I thought he was a genius. ”
Who he is*
He was Ryunosuke Kutagawa — A Japanese Short Story writer who lived in the early 20th century and he also suffered from hallucinations — typical of schizos.
His masterpiece Rashomon featured the killing of a samurai, and the witnesses testifying of the incident in the story, all had a completely different story leading to his death. Sounds like a schizo moment…
JS,
otherwise, japanese culture tend to be very ”high-class”.
Akira Kurosawa have a brother who commited suicide.
The Japanese are the only worthy group of East Asians.
I’ve said in the previous comments about immigrant groups who live in America. Lower class and prolish groups are more common. There are more Chinese than Japanese, there are more Italians than Spaniards, there are more Anglos than French, and America has the most Jews, who are always proles. America has very few Sephardim Jews, because they are not as prole as Ashkenazim.
Interesting observation JS. Dunno if that is true.
The Japanese are the most talented of the East Asians, also, they are more intellectual, despite Japanese culture is primitive like other East Asian groups.
I actually can’t explain Japan at all. Its an anomaly to most of my theories on HBD.
The Japanese as a group have more testosterone than other East Asians.
Source?
Interestingly i read yesterday that ”most of richer democrats… are jews”…
Until then I never understood why a group that is generally non-competitive could have so many rich people…
Of course, the leftists caviar or limousine …too
Elites are often conservative because they are more materialistic, more competitive, and more concerned with their own genetic / family interests. This is the rule all over the world, a bunch of religious hypocrites and not so religious competing to see who gets richer or privileged … by the grace of the Lord, amen. And this competition to the top tends to influence the whole society, making it “advance” …
However, ” Jew’s ” have reversed this picture in the West, putting an elite of ” negative pole ” in power who, instead of advancing with the genetic interests of their community, does the exact opposite, yes, because there are Negative and positive poles, even within populations.
The old conservative cultural elite has then been replaced in part by the new globalist cultural elite.
If it is the truth that most or a disproportionate part of Jews are of subtle / manipulative thinkers and of psychopathic strain (capable of telling the biggest lies with the sincerest face possible), then this could explain double-thinking, ie, Ability to internalize contradictory ideas and thoughts, and work them in a useful or efficient way, but being aware that they are mutually contradictory ideas. Most non-Jewish people are not able to do so because most are not creative enough to have great tolerance for ideas and thoughts that contradict their ways of thinking and living.
It is also true that, in my view, most white or Western or non-Jewish leftists seem a bit foolish, albeit with some cognitive predicates. While most of the leftist gurus have been of … Jews. Intellectual Jews have been the brain of leftism.
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1516-44462016005015101
Yes, it’s not because you ”have” a personality disorder that you will be a ”mentally ill’ person. There is habitable zones within most of ”disorder spectrum”…
Yes, the key word is spectrum. Once again for the third time:
Schizophrenia/Psychosis>Schizoid/Schizotypal/Paranoid Personality Disorder>GAD/OCD>NORMIE>Delta Male>Aspergers>Savant>Autist Retardate.
There is a world of difference between Zuckerberg and a man who can remember every word he ever read and a arm flapping idiot in a care home.
Similarly, Michael Jackson or Alexander Scriabin are socially functional and in not psychotic whereas Eliot Roger, the mass murderer, was a schizoid who developed into full on Schizophrenia where he was no longer functionally able to live among others.
Now, I understand Mugabe’s social constructionism argument well. In Africa, beating up you wife because you felt she cheated on you with no evidence, is not erratic behaviour. Likewise, in East Asia, wearing a rainjacket indoors and repeating the same routine everyday for 20 years isn’t either.
But if you were to draw a line from psychotic schizophrenia involving aural and visual hallucinations/multiple personality/paranoid schizo all the way to the autist retardate, you would have to be very politically correct not to observe asians lean autist and MENA/blacks lean schizo.
Schizo is the primitive survival mind. Autist, the ‘evolved’ Master’s pet.
You can be dumb and be either. In fact full on schizo and full on autism are heavily correlated with low IQ.
Psychopathy is very apparent among blacks…therefore, I tend to think it lies on the S side of the spectrum.
It may be that it needs to be the PS-A spectrum.
Psychopathy is a totally different condition to schiz.
The only thing they both have in common is that they are primitive types of mental mind and both geared to survival first.
Schizo is probably more prevalent among nomadic groups, and autist is common among sedentary/agricultural groups.
The Japanese have more schizoids than other East Asians, perhaps they engaged in farming relatively later than the Chinese. White farmers came later than East Asians, and Jews never had an agricultural tradition, except in Spain. The same applies to blacks. Farming was needed for civilization.
Yes, I’ve mentioned that before. Agricultural societies with Master at the top weeding out ‘criminals’, ‘deviants’ and obviously full on psychotics will, over centuries, turn the population more autistic…rule following. In non-agri socs, Master is a warlord samurai or Chieftain looking for psychopaths and warriors.
Also, nomadic groups are known to have more charisma, friendliness and hospitality than sedentary groups. blacks in Africa have these traits, but operate in a primitive fashion due to their lower IQs. Jews were nomads, but never exhibited these traits naturally. Therefore, these 2 groups have flawed personalities in regards to the environment from which they were evolved.
Philodough — One issue regarding your theory: Agricultural societies also produce cowardly, social avoidance-autistic individuals, with very little altruism, that one finds with East Asians, especially among the Chinese.
JS,
Autistic people have very little altruism??
Where you read it?
Because autists are social avoidance types, they are not social = not altruistic is one of their features. East Asians are clearly of the autist spectrum, because their societies are not very dynamic.
No dear
Not to be social Don’t mean not to be altruistic…
https://books.google.com.br/books?id=dXccCgAAQBAJ&lpg=PA229&ots=NvLhGgYfVM&dq=neuroticism%20tend%20to%20score%20higher%20in%20psychoticism&hl=pt-BR&pg=PA228#v=onepage&q=neuroticism%20tend%20to%20score%20higher%20in%20psychoticism&f=false
Interesting book
Click to access Impure-Genius-Psychoticism-Intelligence-and-Creativity-1997-by-John-Philippe-Rushton.pdf
Yes. Rushton’s article tries to explain why schizo’s are more creative – non-rigidity around thoughts and concepts. I agree.
You can see it most clearly in what autist philosophers write. Its obsessed with the boundaries of words in essence. It wants symmetry and rules.
At the highest levels of verbal abstract reasoning, in my own experience, the words are irrelevant – what is being expressed is how shapes, patterns and colours fit or move alongside each other, then one summoning the words to express it.
Philosophers not surprisingly have resorted to metaphor, allusion to other texts, symbols, codes, similes, creating new words or slang to express these phenomenon.
Autists are still doing legal due diligence on the ground floor.
Creativity is by definition an aversion to rule following.
I think my term ‘autist’ is really catching on on many blogs. I notice the Heartiste and Lion of the Blog are using it as well as many commentators…hahahaha.
Huuum
Mo.
Most of schizos are not creative.
Schizo philosophers are generally those who destroy philosophy exactly because they no have respect for the words meaning and because they have primitive minds and no have responsibility to their own intellectual behavior.
Modern “art” is also infected with mattoids…
Religions, usually stupid, followed by stupid and avg Joey, and basically the greatest delay to the mankind, confusing objective with “subjective” morality, magical factoids with facts, and selecting for this people with mental defects that make them really believe in nonsenses….
I don’t think only ot specially psychoticism often make people more creative. I hve highly paychoticistic older brother, intractable being and he is not more creative than me, of course a only one example. I think above average paychoticism is usually required but too much tend to depress practical / useful creativity.
I confuse ”hallucinations” itself, with mania of grandeur…
I thought it was a hallucination for your own….
People not only on the alt rightard like to use autistic as name-calling. I don’t know why many people as you hate autistics but I know you no have great knowledge about it.
People since a long time like to use autistic as name calling…
I don’t think you are very popular but it can be true, you know, avg people tend to be attracted to avg fake intellectuals..
Autism = cool guy who builds stuff and creates value
Schizo = crazy dumbass who kills people
The true meaning of autist is social avoidance behavior, and the person is usually not very initiative-oriented. So they don’t make stuff or create value.
Your idea of schizo is on the negative extreme.
Schizolosopher says all engineers are autists. His idiosyncratic and capacious understanding of the term renders it meaningless. Both of you don’t understand that schizophrenia and intelligence are mutually exclusive traits. You can’t be a smart schizo unless you use “schizo” in a retarded way, in which case you may well be one because you sure as hell ain’t smart.
I do understand they are mutually exclusive.
I used Ryunosuke Akutagawa as an example. The Japanese probably fall more in the schizo spectrum relatively comparing to other East Asians.
“idiosyncratic and capacious”
This pretentious word usage makes me want to headbutt you.
My celebrity physicists IQ is 145.5. 168v and 170m
Too close to call exact but at least that
I got my scores recently. 167 – V – 98th%. 162 – Q – 81st%. That comes out to a predicted IQ of 136. I’ve tested 128-140 (Wonderlic, Cattell, Reynold’s test).
A few improvements to consider:
1. The norm posted on the ETS chart is based on the global test population. Because you use US information (such as average WAIS IQ for BS grads), you should only use US norms. For one, US takers are advantaged on the Verbal and disadvantaged on Quantitative. For example, my score of 162/170 on Quantitative is the 82nd percentile on global norms and the 92nd percentile on US norms.
2) Your Quantitative formula is off. You put the SD as 8.45. It’s 8.93 in your chart..
1. The norm posted on the ETS chart is based on the global test population. Because you use US information (such as average WAIS IQ for BS grads), you should only use US norms. For one, US takers are advantaged on the Verbal and disadvantaged on Quantitative. For example, my score of 162/170 on Quantitative is the 82nd percentile on global norms and the 92nd percentile on US norms.
I assumed the vast majority of people taking the GRE would be American so any discrepancy between U.S. and global norms would be small, but apparently I’m wrong. Do you know where exclusively U.S. norms can be found?
2) Your Quantitative formula is off. You put the SD as 8.45. It’s 8.93 in your chart..
Damn you’re right! This article needs to be revised big time. Thanks for the constructive criticisms.
Hi, Pumpkin Person.
Thanks for your response.
The ETS publishes the “GRE Worldwide Test Taker Report” periodically. The report for test takers between 2013-2016 is in the following link and shows a US mean/SD of 152.7/7.6 for Verbal and 150.2/7.8 for Quantitative:
https://www.ets.org/s/gre/pdf/snapshot_test_taker_data_2016.pdf.
Very helpful! Thank you so much for the link and the errors you discovered! I’ll update the article with the correct stats within the next week or so, with a note acknowledging the changes & crediting “George” 🙂
Are you still doing a revision?
Yes, just been busy with work & other articles. But it will be done within 72 hours
Sounds good.
I already posted part 1 of the revision. See the recent articles.
Additional improvement:
Your use of the formula to find the SD of the V+Q composite score is erroneous. You should be looking for the correlation between GRE-V and GRE-Q as your “r.”
That is the r that I used. You can see the correlation matrix here:
Note, it’s very hard to read because of poor formatting.
I see. I probably didn’t follow your link to confirm your source.
I scoured the internet looking for the correlation between the current GRE-V and GRE-Q. I thought this would be readily available in ETS materials or maybe in Google Scholar research articles. I’m surprised you were able to locate a number – even if it’s based on the 1990 versions of both tests.
Thank-you for the post. I recently took the GRE and got a 161v/168q which was expected based on practice test scores. I studied for 3 months while working using materials off Amazon.
I also got a Ravens Adv Matrices IQ test done and got a 111 which is roughly 20 points off the number I would get for my IQ based on the above formula. My psych tells me that the GRE doesn’t test for range, and instead only accounts for test taking IQ, while Ravens gives you core G. I am being evaluated for ADHD.
Any thoughts or opinions?
Neither test is an especially good measure of g which is why they correlate so poorly. Your true g is likely in between both scores.