In light of white nationalist Richard Spencer holding a meeting in Washington on Saturday to celebrate Trump’s victory, the media has been talking a lot about the alt-right. I could not believe that mainstream media like CNN were giving them so much attention, but perhaps they see it as a way of undermining Trump through guilt by association.
I was sad that such a major white nationalist meeting could have occurred in Washington in 2016, but as a serious amateur journalist, I knew it was my responsibility to cover it, so I listened to the event on youtube as I lay down on the pillow to sleep.
I had previously written a blog post fearing Richard Spencer could one day run for President, and perhaps with the election of Trump, he now feels emboldened to play a larger role in public life. Spencer is very articulate and polished in interviews, but aside from a few terrifying applause lines (referring to the mainstream media as the Lügenpresse and yelling “hail Trump” ) his speech dragged on a bit.
The big star of this disturbing event was Kevin MacDonald who some describe as the intellectual Godfather of the alt-right.
In a very provocative speech, MacDonald expressed hope that Trump could be a hero to his white people, but fears that Trump’s administration is being hijacked by Zionists that will pursue Israel’s interests at the expense of America’s and worried that pro-Israel elites have brainwashed too many Christians into becoming Christian Zionists.
It’s a bit of misnomer to call these people the “alt-right”. They’re certainly far right on cultural issues , but on foreign policy they’re just incredibly anti-neocon. Spencer for example is a huge critic of the Iraq war, opposes support for Israel, and even supports the Iran nuclear deal, though all of this takes a back-seat to being anti-immigration, which is their number one issue.
And although some of the rhetoric at the event sounded disturbingly anti-Semitic to me, I felt so much better when I learned that some Jews were there, such as twitter star “the reactionary Jew”. Although the alt-right has criticised Jews for pushing immigration on Western countries while supporting extreme nationalism in Israel, the reactionary Jew feels that all peoples have the right to be as nationalist as Israel is.
The real takeaway from all this is that Trump is the first internet President. For all the talk that Obama used social media to get elected, his 2008 victory was really the result of support from traditional media (Oprah in the Democratic primary, the cable pundits and print media in the general election).
By contrast, Trump was incredibly opposed by the traditional media in the general election, but the power of his internet support completely overwhelmed them.
We are living in scary times.
Such scary times that Peter Beinart has a provocative article in The Atlantic arguing that Trump’s presidency is so dangerous, the electors should use their constitutional power to overturn it.
peepee lying down on her pillow.
Pumpkin, I didn’t know you shared family pictures with your guests!
that’s not a “family picture” negro.
peepee took this picture of herself in 2016.
Based on all my comments to date, why on earth would you think I’m black?!
I’ve railed against blacks more than any race on these forums. Pumpkin must be correct that you have a sub 115IQ…
Not me or my family 🙂 Mugabe must have done a google image search for a blackish baby on a pillow
They might be cia/zionist plants trying to stllbirth trump from closing the border.
Their plan is to open the border to make sure whites can’t coalesce electorally.
But what on earth is Spencer saying ‘Hail Trump’ for.
They might be cia/zionist plants trying to stllbirth trump from closing the border.
They’re not.
A lot of the neo-nazi groups are mostly plants and informers.
Do you honestly think Spencer is a CIA plant?
No but some of the audience members were.
In the audience, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Btw, for the first time I had to moderate two of your comments in this thread. Never had to moderate your comments before, since you normally express yourself more carefully.
What can I say, Bienhart lives up to every grubby slimy Jew deserved/undeserved stereotype.
“A lot of the neo-nazi groups are mostly plants and informers.”
This. Especially Stormfront and the KKK. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Daily stormer was a shill job.
“A lot of the neo-nazi groups are mostly plants and informers.”
Behold “white nationalist” Alex Linder:
Biehnart arguing from genetic interest for muh Isr:rael. Clearly a big fan of Likkud smashing Muslim houses down in Palestine. Hahaha.
I lost respect for Beinart when he supported the Iraq war. He allowed his EGI to overwhelm his “liberalism”, but he’s still a really smart guy who writes good columns.
Jews protect other Jews. Not a shock. Jews are the most ethnocentric ethny, so they have an inherent advantage over us stupid goyim.
”disturbingly anti-Semitic to me”
I hope you can sleep tonight…
”I felt so much better when I learned that some Jews were there, such as twitter star “the reactionary Jew””
The world is saved now…
”Although the alt-right has criticised Jews for pushing immigration on Western countries while supporting extreme nationalism in Israel, the reactionary Jew feels that all peoples have the right to be as nationalist as Israel is.”
So every people have the right to be a asshole with the [weak] neighbor… okay.
”Oprah in the Democratic primary, the cable pundits and print media in the general election”
Good you have the kindness to remember us that sanctified name.
I was already strange this text… without HER.
”We are living in scary times.”
Nothing new in the Denmark Kingdom. Stupid human, stupid human does…
”Such scary times that Peter Beinart has a provocative article in the Atlantic arguing that Trump’s presidency is so dangerous, the electors should use their constitutional power to overturn it.”
Scary because a narcisistic and megalomaniacal man won the ellection to the presidency of the world superpower instead that psychopatic woman**
Kek. Good comment Santo.
Where’s the HBD and race stuff pp? Politics is a bore.
http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/politics/trump-wont-pursue-charges-hillary-shes-enough/
“Because you’ll be in jail.”
Hahaha!! Yea right!!
The most powerful first world countries are turning into white nationalist safe havens (russia, america, UK), Japan has almost no military, and china is probably one of the most corrupt places on the planet, it seems the only safe spots are the lowest IQ societies. We’re fucked
Huh? Where do you gather that? America ain’t turning alt right. Just because Trump can get elected telling a few lies to the goyim doesn’t mean that America is turning into a white nationalist safe Haven.
We’ve essentially became russia’s bitch now that trump is in office. they were prepared with it, threatening another cold war. Trump was obviously more liberal than he let on at the beginning of the election and only regurgitated alt reich talking points because he knew it’s what they wanted to hear. America is going to start turning alt right just look at the people he’s hiring. have you even paid attention this election? Anti immigration, more defense spending, antagonistic foreign policy; he is a fascist! Now that trump is president all his supporters will feel vindicated and feel they can do all the racist, ignorant shit they always wanted to. All the blatantly stupid “white guilt” mantras they have spewed is now socially justifiable to them. America is beyond stupid. It’s WW2 all over again, except this time there are no more powerful countries to defend the weak. It is now the beginning of total annihilation.
More defense spending? Ha. Goes in the opposite direction of his so-called ‘isolationist’ viewpoints.
Trump is NOT a fascist. Words have meanings, don’t change the meanings of words please.
America ain’t turning WN, melo. The Jew-run MSM has you with their false talking points. Look at the people he’s hiring. A bunch of Jews and the owner (?) of Breitbart. Whoa. Gonna be much changes to America! Not.
Trump ain’t gonna do a thing, don’t worry about it. He’s reneged on EVERYTHING he’s said, and now he’s not even going to lock up CROOKED HILLARY!!! I’m laughing so hard right now. The laughs will be even better when he doesn’t do a damn thing he’s said he would.
Defense spending can be for protaection too.
“Trump is NOT a fascist. Words have meanings, don’t change the meanings of words please.”
Yes trump is a facist, with populist undertones, the only outlier is that he’s not a dictator but I’m sure he doesn’t understand the difference between a dictator and a president.
“America ain’t turning WN, melo. The Jew-run MSM has you with their false talking points. Look at the people he’s hiring. A bunch of Jews and the owner (?) of Breitbart. Whoa. Gonna be much changes to America! Not.”
He’s hiring mostly white nationalist/ hard right people.I think he’s only hired like one or two jews. White Prole america has always been white nationalist. Now they have a public voice, and it doesn’t matter the reason you throw at them, the stupid outnumber the intelligent and they will try any half assed rationalization to justify their retardedness.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/donald-trumps-cabinet-picks-43643918
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-alt-right-full-nazi-bannon-lands-white-house-job-article-1.2882385
“Trump ain’t gonna do a thing, don’t worry about it. He’s reneged on EVERYTHING he’s said, and now he’s not even going to lock up CROOKED HILLARY!!! I’m laughing so hard right now. The laughs will be even better when he doesn’t do a damn thing he’s said he would.”
I am not worried about trump RR, I am worried about his cronies, I am worried that I am obviously not the only one who realizes how stupid he is….realizes how easy it would be to manipulate him….. He doesn’t understand what he has started.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/top-o-neill-talks-disturbing-spike-hates-crimes-nyc-article-1.2881074?utm_content=buffer15a50&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
Also I’m not sure if you saw the link I tried sharing with you :http://phys.org/news/2016-10-re-examination-paul-kammerer-scientific-fraud.html
It made me ponder on the sexual differences in intellectual hybrid outcomes. I wonder if a mixed baby that has a white mom will be more intelligent on average than a mixed baby with a non white mother.
We’ve essentially became russia’s bitch now that trump is in office.
Better than being Israel’s bitch which is what America is now.
We’ll still be Israel’s bitch. Trumpstein invited Bibi to the White House the other day. Business as usual, goyim.
Not at all, israel couldn’t do shit and is more like our lil brother who bums too many cigarettes and needs to get a damn job already. Russia is like a bully who needs to be put in their place. I hate nationalism but i’m not going to lie when I say I would contribute either intellectually or physically in defeating russia if war ever broke out in such a way. I love america and that’s why I hate it but i hate putin even more so fuck russia.
RR,
Exactly. Well “we are [f]ucked not exactly because alt righters or white nationalists…. Because others….. 😱
Tramp marry a Slavic “sub human”…. In the past real anglo-Saxon centric people only married among wasps, even the blue eyes and pale Irish or even the polish, equally northern European looking were treated or viewed equal.
Tramp is alike with le Poutin?? No way.
Tramp look like Silvio Berlusconi. Berlusconi is fascist??? The new signor Mussolini?? No way.
Yes the hegemonic zionist-international-leftist is in little danger. But nornies on both sides are too dumb to try something original and efficient without their master minds telling for them what they should to do.
“I was sad that such a major white nationalist meeting could have occurred in Washington in 2016”
Why? We have unique laws in America that you Canuckistan doesn’t have.
EGIs, etc.
“disturbing event”
People organizing is disturbing? Or is it the fact that you don’t agree with their views that disturbs you? Everyone should be able to speak their mind, if it’s sensible people will follow. If not, they won’t.
“but on foreign policy they’re just incredibly anti-neocon”
I know you’re not American, but on of our greatest Presidents ever warned against political parties and making friends overseas. His name? George Washington. One of the greatest Americans to ever live.
NOT getting into other’s business is a key point to our American values.
“And although some of the rhetoric at the event sounded disturbingly anti-Semitic to me, I felt so much better when I learned that some Jews were there, such as twitter star “the reactionary Jew”. Although the alt-right has criticised Jews for pushing immigration on Western countries while supporting extreme nationalism in Israel, the reactionary Jew feels that all peoples have the right to be as nationalist as Israel is.”
Lol. So that made you feel better? No offense pp, are you gay? You’re extremely sensitive. Either that or you’re a woman.
“Such scary times that Peter Beinart has a provocative article in The Atlantic arguing that Trump’s presidency is so dangerous, the electors should use their constitutional power to overturn it.”
Would someone like Trudeau be better for America? Would he have no problem then? Of course not!!! It’s >2026 goyim!!!
Trumpstein won’t do anything. Want to know the person who he speaks to before making any decisions?
Jared Kushner. Jews run America and will ALWAYS run America until the goyim wake up.
Hysterical comments all around. People paying too much attention to the Illusion of Zion.
Trump is not a rac-ist in the neo nazi sense.
Secondly, the zionist jews are still too powerful at this point to close the borders of the country, despite the majority white population wanting that.
Third, people like you have no problems with neverending war for Zion in the middle east and butchering muslims or hatred against Russians, but bizarrely can’t see who the most bloodthirsty people’s are.
Zionism is jewish facism.
I am against all forms of fascism from any tribe.
But I am for self determination and national sovereignty. Including for Muslims and Israel.
Also, I agree with realist. Pumpkin you may be best served not posting politics stuff here. There are many other blogs for that coverage and it’s perhaps a distraction.
Has moderation been turned on for everything?
Just briefly. Turning it off now.
I’m off for the night. Wasted too much time today with this politics rubbish. I might even just pomodoro myself on these blogs from now on and dump the laptop into a fridge for a while. Talking about politics is a waste of time.
“Talking about politics is a waste of time.”
^^^^^^ It’s all a stage game.
PP plz go back to the HBD stuff.
except for mugabe.
beinart is a joke. typical fucking jew. typical fucking immigrant.
he uses “demagogue” as a pejorative. it’s clear he wants a jewish elite (he and his friends) to govern. it’s clear he’s opposed to democracy.
the only way democracy can go wrong is when the putative democracy is heterogeneous regarding “identity”.
forgetting for the moment that the majority persecuting the minority democratically is rare…this makes the point i’ve made so many times…democracy and ethnic, cultural, etc. heterogeneity are inherently contradictory. the elevation of minority rights against the democratic majority is only a thing in countries which shouldn’t exist and should never have existed, countries which are the result of greed for power and money, countries of the new world, south africa (beinart’s parents’ country), the soviet union, turkey, israel, etc.. and this includes fake countries like iraq and afghanistan and all the countries of sub-saharan africa, multi-ethnic countries made up by colonial powers.
PP: You say we’re living in scary times, but your vision of smart high IQ individuals asserting their dominance over lower IQ groups is beginning to take hold. It’s been happening with our American liberals, but the right-o-sphere makes it explicit.
I agree with you that blacks pose no threat to any global dominance of any sort. It’s White people, the Jews, and perhaps East Asians, if provoked, but blacks have no say in the globalization for power.
Some of your readers here think Jews are domineering, bar none, but Whites are far more dangerous when they get angry.
Kevin McDonald’s only nemesis is the Jews. Maybe blacks, but other groups really have nothing to fear from White Nationalism.
“PP: You say we’re living in scary times, but your vision of smart high IQ individuals asserting their dominance over lower IQ groups is beginning to take hold. It’s been happening with our American liberals, but the right-o-sphere makes it explicit.”
So true!
PP, Mugabe is a fucking racist white trash nigga. He’s ruining my experience on your blog.
Deal with it!
although apparently your absurd sensitivity is based on how poorly canada treats its “first nations”.
i even remember norm macdonald referring to a canadian indegene in his podcast as…scary, dangerous, frightening…or that was the “implication” of what he said.
the first nations of the US are a far smaller % of the population than they are in canada and they aren’t discriminated against, they’re excluded, self-excluded. but they have the casinos and some of the tribes are quite well off as a result. they’re simply too rare to be discriminated against. that is, they have no presence in american pop culture any more. many white americans will go their entire lives and never meet an injun. i don’t know if i’ve ever met one myself except when hiking in a reservation.
from macleans:
By almost every measurable indicator, the Aboriginal population in Canada is treated worse and lives with more hardship than the African-American population. All these facts tell us one thing: Canada has a race problem, too.
they neglect to mention that the US’s indigenes are poorer than blacks too, but for different reasons.
and you’re the racist.
you say your mother is half metis.
that makes you at most 1/8th native american.
yet you “identify” as native american.
you’re just a fucking con man sociopath. no wonder you love ‘mer’ca.
You’re the fucking sociopath. Just read your own comments. You’re not actually moral. It just so happens that you’re too lazy to succeed in the conventional sense. You still care about success which is why you’re so bitter. You didn’t refuse to succeed because of some nebulous moral notion; you’re just a lazy prole fuck.
Even if you are moral, it’s only theoretical morality. You’re a fucking misanthrope. You’re not moral in action. Fucking white trash!
Deal with it!
we have very different ideas of what “success” means.
you’re a loser.
you’re the textbook case of a sociopath.
liz warren used her bullshit amerind ancestry to get her a professorship at harvard law. bernie is good. she’s evil.
The Alt-Right believe all Jews should also stay in Israel, and America, which is a country founded by Whites should stop bowing to the requests made by Jews. Essentially, this includes the support for Israel, and Spencer’s support of Iran’s acquiring nuclear weapons, which Israel opposed, is basically just that.
“The Alt-Right believe all Jews should also stay in Israel”
A few months back I had a convo with Sean Last (of The Alternative Hypothesis) on PP’s blog. He said he’s a ‘nationalist’ and he agrees with Trumpstein that we ‘need to protect Israel’. Then I shot back to him and said okay, you’re a nationalist. How about the Palestinians? Don’t they deserve a land?
I am a nationalist, but Israel deserves no land (their own books say they’re not supposed to return to Canaan nor create a new state until their Messiah returns) and the Pallies deserve theirs. Any so-called ‘nationalist’ who says otherwise is a hypocrite.
“Essentially, this includes the support for Israel, and Spencer’s support of Iran’s acquiring nuclear weapons, which Israel opposed, is basically just that.”
He is an idiot. Iran getting nukes means Trumpstein declares war on Iran for his buddies in Israel.
With Adolf Hitler’s approval, Adolf Eichmann released a memorandum on 15 August 1940 calling for the resettlement of a million Jews per year for four years, with the island governed as a police state under the SS…The plan was not viable due to the British naval blockade.
it also would never have been viable if the nazis hadn’t won the war and staid in power forever. merely deporting jews to one location is meaningless if they can leave.
so the nazis really had only two choices.
1. lose the war and let the jews come do dominate germany and the rest of europe, not just the allies.
2. kill as many as they could to slow down the process of world domination.
choosing the latter is not nearly as bad as it sounds given what has happened since the war.
1. the most successful economy post ww ii is germany’s. it has a trade surplus of 9% of gdp. it has extensive training and apprenticeships for every line of work.
2. the UK is now the poorest germanic language speaking country in europe with the largest trade deficit of any developed country. the US is a failed state.
Chocobabe
I’ve given thought to the FInal Solution.
Its true jews will figure out a way to infiltrate the West because that is where the surplus is and the gullible idiots (notice the paucity of Jews in the Far East).
The obvious answer would have been to do what the Spanish, Turks and East Asians did and sandbag them with a rigid doctrinaire counter religious/nationalist ideology.
That’s obviously antithetical to liberal free speech and thought however.
The trade off of inoculation against Zion = toe the party line for unity.
Obviously the death camps are a disgusting way to do it. I actually think what happened was the food supplies ran out and the Germans made a less mendacious calculation to simply do away with Jews and Gypsies and Gays/Down Syndrome to preserve food and nail two birds with one stone.
“One quarter of wealthiest Russians are Jewish”
https://www.darkmoon.me/2014/one-quarter-wealthiest-russians-jewish/
it was 90% before putin.
and “wealthy” is prole. non-proles say “rich”.
Thought it was the opposite.
of course you did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_and_non-U_English
the appeal of the above video is….
1. the rich wish that their status is justified by their virtue, or at least their taste.
2. what’s virtue? it’s whatever makes one able to “wop his wallet on the counter!”
the reality…
the old rich have deluded the would-be new rich…as a result…
the new rich are much worse than the old rich they’re replacing.
much worse.
shut your mouff!
here’s the formula peepee:
var(X+Y+Z) = var(X) + var(Y) + var(Z)+2*(sigma(X)sigma(Y)rho(X,Y) + sigma(X)sigma(Z)rho(X,Z) + sigma(Y)sigma(Z)rho(Y,Z))
but this formula can’t be used. if it’s used to estimate the probability of a total score of 2400 the probability calculated is greater than that of a score of 800 on the verbal section by itself. the reason is that the the formula “assumes” it’s possible to score higher than 800 on all three of the subtests V, Q, and A.
the probability can be estimated using pseudorandom number generation and this formula https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivariate_normal_distribution#Geometric_interpretation assuming that scores of 800 can be considered “truncated”, that is considered as if they were scores on a test without a ceiling cut off at a certain percentile.
if you can find the correlations i can estimate the probability.
You should test that method on the old SAT, where the math section is truncated relative to the verbal, and the correlation is actually known (0.67) and the rarity of extremely high SAT scores is also known.
so by my calculations if one were to assume that the Q and A correlated at .9 and Q and V and A and V at .8 and a bunch of other assumptions the probability of 2400 would be 2 in 1000.
You should have posted this in the SAT thread. Your correlations sound way too high (remember V & M on the SAT only correlate 0.67)
i just chose them at random. ok i’ll do it for .67 V and A,Q and .8 for A and Q.
the other assumptions were:
1. all subtests have a mean of 500 and are normally distributed truncated at 800.
2. probability of 800 V is 0.5%, of 800 Q is 3%, of 800 A is 1%.
it makes little difference. several trials of 10,000 a piece produce 2400 between 20 and 11 times per 10,000.
Based on Dutton’s research, the second most psychopathic profession is that of a lawyer. (The first is a CEO).
The media are talking up the Alt-Right because they think they can damage Trump by linking him in people’s minds to them. They are a fringe group who have no links to Trump, who in turn does not support them at all – and was quite possibly not even aware of them until the media brought them to his attention. The two Alt-Right “leaders” the media have chosen (though there is no organization for them to lead) are precisely the two most likely to alienate the public and scare ethnic minorities by their rhetoric.
Another tactic the media have used in the past few days to try to create an impression that Trump is some sort of Nazi is to report that his chief strategist, Steve Bannon, who is also boss of the Breitbart news website, is an anti-Semite. This without being able to cite a single thing that Bannon has ever said or done that might be described as anti-semitic. The irony is that Breitbart not only has Jewish senior staff, but publishes far more pro-Israel stuff than most mainstream news organs. The fiction was first propagated by the Anti-Defamation League, but they were forced to recant after several well-known Jewish colleagues and friends of Steve Bannon came out forcefully in his defence.
I see that someone in the comments called Trump a Fascist, and did so in all earnest. Really? If Trump is a Fascist, where are his anti-capitalist speeches? Where are his blackshirts, trained to beat up communist brownshirts? Where are his plans to abolish democracy? Where are his plans for a national religion? The word “Fascist” has been bandied about so much by the Left in recent years, who habitually call everyone to the right of them Fascist or Nazi (indiscriminately, as if there were no difference at all between the two ideologies), that it has lost all meaning.
Trump is neither a Fascist nor a Nazi. He’s a nationalist and patriot of the same sort that was considered normal between the 1960s and 1980s. All Presidents in that period, with the possible exception of Jimmy Carter, were patriotic and nationalistic to a similar degree. Nor is he a racist. He believes in the “color blind” policy that was generally accepted as the ideal before pigeonholing “affirmative action” policy achieved hegemony. To advocates of affirmative action, Trump’s lack of endorsement of their policy is racism, but from the standpoint of color blind ideology, it is _affirmative action_ that is racist (and sexist when applied to so-called “gender”).
I like Ben Carson.
So do I. He’s a very likeable guy.
on drugs.
Another tactic the media have used in the past few days to try to create an impression that Trump is some sort of Nazi is to report that his chief strategist, Steve Bannon, who is also boss of the Breitbart news website, is an anti-Semite. This without being able to cite a single thing that Bannon has ever said or done that might be described as anti-semitic. The irony is that Breitbart not only has Jewish senior staff, but publishes far more pro-Israel stuff than most mainstream news organs. The fiction was first propagated by the Anti-Defamation League, but they were forced to recant after several well-known Jewish colleagues and friends of Steve Bannon came out forcefully in his defence.
Correct.
Incidentally, I think this tactic of trying to link Trump to the Alt-Right could backfire badly, by greatly raising the profile of the Alt-Right while doing nothing to harm Trump. It could end up causing millions of people to investigate the Alt-Right online, and be persuaded by the arguments, and become, as they say, “red-pilled”. If this happens to enough people, the current rickety set of compromises would collapse, and the US would break out in full, undisguised racial conflict.
Incidentally, I think this tactic of trying to link Trump to the Alt-Right could backfire badly, by greatly raising the profile of the Alt-Right while doing nothing to harm Trump.
Of course it’s not entirely a tactic to undermine Trump. It’s also an attempt to get ratings, and it’s also, to some extent a legitimate news story. It’s not every day when a major white nationalist meeting is held with Nazi salutes to the incoming President-elect.
It could end up causing millions of people to investigate the Alt-Right online, and be persuaded by the arguments, and become, as they say, “red-pilled”. If this happens to enough people, the current rickety set of compromises would collapse, and the US would break out in full, undisguised racial conflict
Well the media has misdirected people into thinking breitbart.com is alt-right
“Well the media has misdirected people into thinking breitbart.com is alt-right”
They’ve said they are.
The trouble is, there’s no single, authoritative definition of “Alt-Right”. Breitbart claims to be Alt-Right, and the likes of Richard Spencer claim to be Alt-Right, but they stand for different things.
“alt-right” means whatever you want it to mean. the msm wants it to mean all the things they hate, so that’s what it means for them. the “alt-right” could just as easily be called the “alt-left”. culturally, socially arch conservative and economically left wing. this is what the nazis were, and they loved animals and the environment too. the killing of harambe would not have been a laughing matter for them.
By the late 1930s, taxation, regulations and general hostility towards the business community were becoming so onerous that one Germany businessman wrote: “These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth,’” while some businessmen were “studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.”[34] In others cases, National Socialist officials were levying harsh fines of millions of marks for a “single bookkeeping error.”
words only have the senses they are given by their users.
All words can be said to mean “whatever you want them to mean”, as Humpty Dumpty explained to Alice, but what matters is the prevailing usage. Based on prevailing usage, Alt-Right really does not mean what Richard Spencer says it means, but with the media’s help, it could come to mean that.
And, yes, Fascism and its younger sibling, Nazism, both emerged out of Socialism, descdribed themselves as Socialist, and retained many of the traits of Socialism, so it’s quite misleading to call them, e.g., “extreme right.” A more accurate term would be “extreme center.”
“The word “Fascist” has been bandied about so much by the Left in recent years, who habitually call everyone to the right of them Fascist or Nazi (indiscriminately, as if there were no difference at all between the two ideologies), that it has lost all meaning.”
He is fascist. The only thing missing is dictatorial rhetoric.
“Trump is neither a Fascist nor a Nazi. He’s a nationalist and patriot”
There is literally no difference, and you should actually read the links I post if you’re going to criticize my arguments, this isn’t me overreacting anybody with a brain can see how racist these people are.
“He is fascist. The only thing missing is dictatorial rhetoric.”
That’s like saying someone is a Christian, and then adding that the only thing missing is belief in Jesus.
Well shit if someone regurgitated bible quotes all day long but then proceeded to y jesus, wouldn’t you be skeptical?
and as i’ve said peepee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivariate_normal_distribution#Two_normally_distributed_random_variables_need_not_be_jointly_bivariate_normal.
although any one continuous variable can be normalized. normalizing marginal distributions does not produce a multivariate normal distribution of the normalized variables.
although any one continuous variable can be normalized. normalizing marginal distributions does not produce a multivariate normal distribution of the normalized variables.
You should post this argument in this thread:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2016/02/11/the-incredible-correlation-between-iq-income/
none will read it peepee.
On the contrary, it will be read in context, so people know what you’re talking about, and will be read by people searching for that topic. Also, people read the most recent comment on the comment roll, regardless of what post it appears in. That’s why I never close the comment section of any post.
and it’s not an argument peepee. it’s a statement of fact. although if upon percentile matching of the marginal distributions the plot of X vs Y were linear this would be enough to make the correlation meaningful.
Two points:
1) very hard to have a high linear correlation between two variables with wildly different distributions. Equating the distributions doesn’t guarantee a linear relationship, but at least it makes it plausible.
2) income and IQ are actually both fairly normally distributed within the middle 99% of America, and that’s the group from which the IQ-income correlation is calculated. Thus, it’s reasonable to assume that if you could force the remaining 1% of income to also fit the normal distribution, the same linear trend might continue to the highest extremes.
is it just me or does spencer sound gay?
that would explain a lot. he’s not a nationalist, he’s a european supremacist.
jon stewart gets it. my words come out of his mouth.
I don’t know if he’s gay, but I suspect there is a lot of homosexuality in the white nationalist movement, because there seems to be a culture of male bonding. Also, what makes the white race great are white men (white women haven’t accomplished much), so white nationalism is largely about admiring white men.
Also, the real reason so many worship whites is they produce the best looking people, and gays are more focused on looks.
I also think the white male appearance appeals more to gay men than it does to straight women. Women like somewhat swarthy guys who could be Jewish or even Arab, while gay men like guys with light hair and light eyes. So gays might be disproportionately drawn to white nationalism. Also, gays might be more narcissistic, and thus be attracted to their own kind. Perhaps Santoculto could weigh in.
First, I don’t think there is a overrepresentation of homosexuals in white nationalism movement,
Second, avg white women, generally, tend to like white men. Yes there is white and any other race – women who are attracted for foreigners, but I don’t think they are majority,
Third, homosexuals tend to like men, literally speaking, but I think the same trends of same-race mating happens among them/us, of course we have more mixed race couples but again I don’t think it’s most of the cases,
Fourth, the homosexuals who are sympathetic with white nationalism or my case with white cause tend to more perceptive with the contradictions within the new left, even more masculine or with masculine psychological style.
I don’t think white gays who are sympathetic with white nationalism only desire preserve beautiful Caucasian males. At least in my case this factor never was my original reason to be sympathetic with white cause.
Most of white homossexuaks “are” to the left wing specially because the new left have defended homosexuals while most of wn hates or despise them/us.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/01/the-ruthlessly-effective-rebranding-of-europes-new-far-right
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/people/sasha-polakow-suransky
Yes, gays tend to more narcisistic probably because as happen with women they lack, on avg, traditional masculine competitiveness… so this natural impetus is directed to the social/sexual goals.
But again i don’t think most of homossexuals who are sympathetic of white causes or even white nationalism (i think most of them are sympathetic with white cause) are aesthetically motivated in the way you are suggesting.
there are no homosexuals santa claus, just confused people.
norm macdonald has said this very well. he noted that supposed homos can pretend to be hetero and reproduce, but heteros could never pretend to be homos. that gay men used to reproduce is why milo argues they should go back in the closet. milo has also said that he feels his sexual activity is wrong.
gay men seek the masculinity they lack in other men. lesbians had some very negative experience with men at some point. it’s that simple.
but peepee has been so brainwashed she can’t see that one can appreciate the beauty of members of his own gender and at the same time have no desire for them at all. thus i can say that if paul newman had been 6’+ he’d have been a cunt throb, but i had no desire to suck his cock. at the same time i must say that 99% of men are fugly to my eye.
“that would explain a lot. he’s not a nationalist, he’s a european supremacist.”
Pan-Europeanism. (Idiotic)
I have a request PP:
Analyze Morton’s skull data
https://archive.org/details/Craniaamericana00Mort
Analyze Lewis et al’s 2011 remeasures
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001071
Then analyze Gould’s remeasure of Morton’s numbers (pg. 82)
Click to access 17.%20Stephen%20Jay%20Gould%20-%20The%20Mismeasure%20of%20Man%20(1981)%20-%20Revised%20edition%20-%20missing%20last%20page.pdf
Would be an interesting post, a nice solid change-up from the boring politics.
This guy remeasured Morton’s skulls in the late 80s and had his study published as an undergraduate.
http://michael1988.com/?page_id=17
Lewis et al. 2011 pretty much confirmed his findings.
There is also another critique on Lewis et al 2011 called “Remeasuring Man”.
PP, plz do a series on this.
I think you’ll like this song Pumpkin.
http://www.paintingstar.com/static/gallery/2013/12/28/53c5756ca5922.jpg?Comedia+Artwork+by+Kees+Van+Dongen
“art”
RR,
don’t confuse this type of art with it
I wasn’t, Santo. This isn’t art.
Why you quoted the word art below the images*
How’s it not art?
”How’s it not art?”
What do you talking about* The images Philosopher posted or the image i posted*
I was talking about philosopher’s. I’ll look at yours too though.
Bigger its wouldve been nice
bigger tits*
Van Dongen captures this essence of his subjects beautifully.
fine art is prole.
i thought proles hated art?
Here is my take on the rise of the alt right.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/11/22/the-rise-of-ethnocentrism-and-white-nationalism-the-rebirth-of-selfish-genes/
Good article.
I’ve never read Dawkins book yet, which I must.
Thank you. The 40th anniversary edition just came out in August. Pick that one up.
dawkins is a creepy moron. he’s been married 3x and is separated from his third wife.
I remember reading an autobiography by a pick up artist a while back who studied under Dawkins in Cambridge and came to know him personally a bit.
Apparently Dawkins is surprisingly good around women and the young nerdy guy at the time couldn’t understand why.
The rest of the book is gunk.
“dawkins is a creepy moron. he’s been married 3x and is separated from his third wife.”
Don’t know if the fourth word of the first sentence is true or not but he’s definitely not a moron, he’s a great writer and scientist; don’t care.
I’d disagree with you that the alt-right came to the fore, because of White ethnocentrism arising non-white immigration.
The core issue is economics or one calls disenfranchisement of a particular group by another, which leads to tribal behaviors.
Wealthier Whites in America, in fact live in multicultural environments more so than poorer Whites.
fine art is more prole than professional wrestling.
it has no value in itself. it’s only “value” is…
“i appreciate it, and you don’t…because you’re a ‘philistine’…
i can afford it, and you can’t.”
bourgeois decadence to the hilt.
you know it used to be in europe and japan and…that the upper class were defined by their willingness and ability to fight. now the military is for retards and the “upper class” are effeminate, frivolous prostitutes.
that is, over centuries social stratification/status/hierarchy has been like a python moving his bowels. the more numerous lump pushes out its betters and are then pushed out by their inferiors…ad infinitum…each new round of shit smellier than the last.
you’re a really good writer. sucks that you’re a prole racist white trash piece of shit.
here’s a list of all those loser swedes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Swedes_by_net_worth
intergenerational income elasticity:
the american dream is alive and well…in canada, scandinavia, and the antipodes.
hi-ya, hi-ya. hi-ya, hi ya. woooh-oh woooh-oh woh! little girls.
So, why do you criticize Canada so much? You’re a dumbass.
because i’m a retarded bitter prole racist white trash piece of shit…
obviously!
Yes, and Italy which has a higher number of in-elasticity correlation than trailer trash kingdom, has psychologically healthier citizens, simply because of more social capital.
USProle ranks bottom in all criteria that relates to psychological well being of the West:
Lowest in economic mobility, lowest in welfare measures for individuals, lowest in social connectedness, lowest in educational standards, lowest in …quality of life.
Fine art isn’t prole because proles don’t like it.
Pro wrestling I also watched a lot as a child/teen, like many people.
Many adult/young male pro wrestling fans are actually nerdy middle class omegas. Just go to a wrestling merchandise shop. Proles are more into MMA or other real sports.
An interesting question may be whether social class makes you more likely to be omega.
You do have a point that the warrior caste used to be tops.
But that was about 1000 years ago in the West, probably more.
Aesthetic taste and current ruling class may be linked more to IQ.
The older feudal aristocracy was linked more to testosterone.
Even during feudal and Napoleonic times though, barons, dukes and the upper aristocracy did not fight hand to hand with their men.
Not knocking it.
feudalism developed in part due to the great expense of maintaining a horse. techne preceded social structure again. and the people were undernourished in medieval europe. the feudal aristocracy was physically bigger than the people. charlemagne was a giant in his own time.
and you’re the one who’s been touting the role of high t over iq in the modern world.
concern troll again.
See comment below on male socio-sexual hierarchy.
What do you think about folk art?
but always claiming that it smells like roses.
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The one constant that predicts upward movement in the social male hierarchy is not IQ, wealth or even good looks per se, but testosterone.
In that sense, the warrior caste system never went away de facto.
Not really. Testosterone doesn’t have anything to do with social skills for example. One can have both high testosterone and aspergers, for example.
Testosterone has plenty to do with it.
“The one constant that predicts upward movement in the social male hierarchy is not IQ, wealth or even good looks per se, but testosterone.”
I don’t buy it, Inside my friend group there is an individual who is around 6’3″, hairy, probably has a bigger dong than me and could probably kick my ass, but my superior intelligence has allowed me to outclass him in our social group. I manipulated him into befriending me by taking mental notes of certain personality quirks and twisting them to my advantage(he originally despised me). Anytime there is an argument I am victorious and because he thinks highly of me he wont try to fight me when his ego is sore. Him, being the low IQ psychopath that he is, is naturally poor. I used this to where now he always comes to me for cigarettes, liquor, weed, anything. Despite his obviously higher levels of testosterone his ability with women, money and life in general are subpar This individual could easily have been my enemy, and now I have a powerful ally, who would be more than willing to fight for me if I asked
Looks, and wealth have more to do with social status among men and women, than testosterone. If social hierarchy is really about testosterone wouldn’t blacks have the highest social statuses? If you take their IQ’s and income into account you can clearly see this isn’t the case.
Oh oh spaghetti-oh.
You’ve stumbled onto something very big buster.
You could say its one of the few things I never like discussing and am still trying to work out.
Maybe if all else is equal then higher testosterone= higher social status. But it depends on how you define higher testosterone and which phenotypic traits signify it.
Nanograms per deciliter is the best way to define ‘higher testosterone’. Phenotypic traits include deeper voice, confidence, energy, motivation, reduced depression and high sex drive.
All of those seem to be better for social status but I don’t think that’s the end of the list. Also wouldn’t body size, hair and aggression be affected too? Again, it seems that higher testosterone is useless without IQ, wealth, and good looks.
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Notice the way Van Dongen depicts the black guy as a demonic figure with large sensual lips…..
Hahahaha!
http://screenrant0.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/venom-comics.jpg?auto=format&lossless=1&q=90&w=1000&h=500&fit=crop
Spiderman copy VD?
Lion is soul searching for a new name for the alt-right after Spencer blew it up for everyone.
It’s interesting that even Trumpenproletariat worships the Jews.
The media has realized harping on about the Alt-Right hating NAMs won’t do anything, so they’ve just flashed around a couple of photos of “G0ok Goddess” Tila Tequila or Richard Spencer saluting Hitler. The proles suddenly have a crisis.
Trump WILL be better to Israel than Obama or even Bill Clinton, due to the fact that Proles think “American Nationalism” entails using Israel to further or own interests in the Middle East.
It’s the Achilles’ heel of nationalism; the proles think we could NEVER be tricked by the dumb others and therefore there’s no concern in getting involved in an alliance with Israel……………
The far right loves Israel because they hate Muslims so they’re using “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” logic. They also tend to be Christian Zionists and also, conservatives by definition love power, and Israel is a very dominant country.
The alt-right dislikes Israel despite also not liking Muslims, because they feel Muslims are Israel’s problem, and they blame organized Jewry for allegedly getting America to fight that battle for them via middle eastern involvement and immigration.
Both the far right and the alt-right are distinct parts of Trump’s base, though the former outnumber the latter significantly. What unites both camps is their pro-white views.
““the enemy of my enemy is my friend””
Idiotic. The ‘enemy’ is a Five Eyes creation (with the Saudis and MI6).
“The alt-right dislikes Israel despite also not liking Muslims, because they feel Muslims are Israel’s problem, and they blame organized Jewry for allegedly getting America to fight that battle for them via middle eastern involvement and immigration.”
A lot of them don’t even recognize JewS involvement in the ME as a cause for the migration crisis into Europe.
“Both the far right and the alt-right are distinct parts of Trump’s base, though the former outnumber the latter significantly. What unites both camps is their pro-white views.”
They look at Trumpstein like he’ll get anything done; he won’t. Will be business as usual.
For PP: French Canadians shown here protecting their genetic/ethnic interests.
http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2014/12/11/quebec-resident-exodus-to-other-provinces-continues/
Lack of English Speaking jobs and high taxes, are forcing Anglo Canadians to leave the French Speaking province for Anglo Prole Canada.
On Lion’s blog, commenter “Rosenmops” who’s an Anglo Canadian laments the fact that there are too many East Asians in British Columbia who are displacing White Anglo Canadians. No doubt, the entire Anglosphere is more concerned about money than genetic/ethnic interests, at least explicitly.
Americans and many other Anglo Proles are pretty much screwed, if they are not “grandfathered” as the elite or born with certain privileges. Most do not speak a foreign language, and thus are unemployable at a job that requires one.