According to this source, 50% of American adults can’t read an 8th grade book. Since the 50th percentile of American IQ is average IQ; about 100 (U.S. norms; 97 U.S. white norms), then on the IQ scale, 8th grade reading level = IQ 100 (97 on U.S.white norms).
More than 20% of U.S. adults read below the fifth grade level.
Since the 20th percentile of Americans is IQ 88 (U.S. norms; 84 on white norms), then on the IQ scale, 5th grade reading level = IQ 88 (84 on white norms).
From here, we can make simple linear formulas converting reading levels to IQ equivalents:
U.S. norms:
IQ = 68+4(reading level)
U.S. white norms:
IQ = 62.333+4.333(reading level)
Pumpkin Person 
Is the level at which someone writes, roughly the same as reading level?
For instance, you could estimate the IQs of some of your readers by the comments they write?
A member of Prometheus did that once for fun.
I think it works at low levels, but beyond a certain point, complex writing is actually bad writing, and thus a sign of low IQ. However it takes a high IQ to understand bad writing.
“complex writing is actually bad writing, and thus a sign of low IQ.”
How so?
Where did you get the 68 and 4 from?
So if I have a highschool senior reading level that means 68+4(12)= 116
But I actually have a college reading level, so what number would I multiply the 4 by? 13? 14? Does it matter if I was 16 when I found out my reading abilities were college level? If so how would it change the formula?
Dysgenics in action.
The president’s speeches are written for that level too.
http://www.vocativ.com/interactive/usa/us-politics/presidential-readability/
we haven’t gotten down into elementary school since Bush I.
But these candidates on the stump are pretty bad;
http://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2016/march/speechifying.html
Mann Coulter said Trump’s big boy foreign policy speech was “the best speech since Washington’s farewell address”…in that case, my, how it has fallen (a source said 17.9 to lower Middle School!)
How far have we fallen. Trump is a horrible speaker.
Unreal. Trump supporters are also less educated.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-overwhelmingly-leads-rivals-in-support-from-less-educated-americans/
So that plays a part.
But he is a horrible speaker. I hate his phrases. He won’t be a good president. Hes globalist backed.
He’s been a globalist, and although he stepped out of line to a certain extent, he still has ties.
My biggest concern is, that he is completely insincere but people BELIEVE he is not.
Plus, the reality TV thing could lead to nuking places just for a “wow factor”
Hillary’s foreign policy is absolutely dreadful, she’s like a Bush in that regard, but she’ll use ground troops, not nukes 🙂
If he was sincere he’d get the Ron Paul treatment. I converse with many people who really believe that he will build a wall, deport illegals and halt Muslims from coming into the country. They don’t realize that this is exactly what Obama was saying to the liberals, and they bought it hook, line, and sinker. Trump will just continue the downward spiral of America. He is not for us, the people.
People can say all they want during election time, what really matters is their actions while I’m office. And their actions will not be for us. It will be for. The globalists.
Clinton is CIA.
CIA is project paperclip.
paperclip is neocon.
neocon are suicidal Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD).
Clinton is fake and believes in supporting Radical Islam.
She believes in destroying the human rights of women in the middle east.
What Clinton and Obama did to Libya was horrific.
You do not have to be educated to understand that evil is evil.
You do need to be indoctrinated to rationalize away responsibility.
It will be a wonderful thing when Baby Boomers all die.
We have put up with their shit far too long.
Social justice warriors are hypocrites.
U.S. white norms:
IQ = 62.333+4.333(reading level)
“Unreal. Trump supporters are also less educated.”
My verbal comprehension is higher than 98 percent of americans.
132 = 62.333+4.333(16)
If Trump is a globalist I can definitely get along with that. Cold War Nazi CIA Neocons be dammed.
@Animekitty
You are a single data point.
So millienials take over (I am one too)? America will be dead by then anyway.
<blockquote<What Clinton and Obama did to Libya was horrific.
Gaddafi was a good man. He fought against the Jewish central banks, made a few cracks against Obama and then Hillary got him killed.
“Gaddafi was a good man. He fought against the Jewish central banks, made a few cracks against Obama and then Hillary got him killed.”
It certainly was interesting that was really the only country they intervened in. There has been speculation that as tensions grew with Netanyahu, Obama wanted to spread the conflict to Egypt, have it radicalized, and threaten Israel.
AK-
I’m pretty sure there is not really data on Trump’s general election supporters, we we’re referring to primary voters.
Also,
if it was Trump v. Sanders who would you vote for?
@Another William Playfair
Bernie Sanders is the Ron Paul of the Democratic party. Trump and Sanders have the same foreign policy (no more half assed wars, and no preemptive war Bush Doctrine) so that is good. The problem with Sanders is that he does not understand how the economy works. The world economy is over 100 trillion dollars. This means that the gold standard is impractical. Metaphorically, the economy is now software not hardware. Centralized Banks and Corporations no longer need physical assets as collateral. All they need is to keep the velocity of currency high. To do this they need debt swaps. Russia and China have signed a deal to exchange rubles and yuan. This makes the petro dollar weaker but it also strengthens the global financial markets. So think of it this way. Swapping assets electronically is akin to software and swapping physical items like gold in fortnox is hardware. In 1972 we no longer shipped physical gold. When the States in america had trade barriers this caused economic problems. New York and Massachusetts had tariffs that blocked trade. When trade barriers were lifted you no longer needed to pay taxes to ship good across state lines in Post colonial America. The same is happening to day but globally. What Trump wants to do is to get rid of the tariffs other countries impose on the United States. When we ship goods to other countries we must pay them taxes. But when they ship goods to us we do not force them to pay taxes. That is a double standard. Trump wants to make it so there are no taxes, just like Postcolonial America. If America can sell its goods faily then that makes america stronger with more jobs. Tarifs steal the money from US companies so they make cut backs and people lose the jobs they had. Cheap labor can then unfairly sell products at low prices because tariffs force US manufactures to lose profitability. The base line is this: no tariffs period, especially if america must pay more than foreign countries. All tariffs must be equally the same or have no tariffs at all. And if this is done both china and America can both strengthen their domestic markets. China needs to produce more goods for its own people. Making tariffs fair will result in both China’s and America’s Middle class flushing. China needs a healthy middle class. Bernie sanders is an occupy wall street guy. Occupy wall street is the stupidest thing the left could have done to improve the economy and so that is what they did. Peter Joseph who directed the three movies Zeitgeist is just as clueless as Sanders. They do not understand what liquidity is. Capitalism will exist until it is replaced by Robots. Peter Joseph and Sanders have no real plan. I agree that government student debt is bad and should be eliminated, it is a government scam. This does not change the fact that without the fed increasing liquidity the global economy would have collapsed because of cascading bank failures. The fed did their job. We cannot go back to the old way of banking. This would be akin to going back to the time before the internet in order to increase library attendance. The economy is a software economy not a hardway economy. We cannot go back to the physical gold swap standard because gold is now a commodity not money. Ron Paul and Alex Jones are both nutjobs. Gold is a commodity. We no longer live in the year 1863. The middle class needs help. And Trump understands how jobs are made. Sanders thinks that if you forgive student debt then this will create jobs. That is bull shit and backwards. Students need real high paying jobs to pay their debts and rise into the middle class. Right now that is impossible. And that is why I am Voting for Trump. So that both america and china can have a strong middle class. I believe in Jobs before welfare. Welfare does not create jobs. I do not believe in eliminating welfare. I just think more people want jobs than to be dependant on food stamps.
AK- I agree with most of what you said,
Trump has been ambiguous on trade, he has said he wants to repair the trade deals (could eliminate tariffs on our goods overseas, but has also expressed support for tariffs here at home).Tariffs at home would be disastorous, we’re not equipped to handle it right now, there’d be an effect that limits some people’s spending money, and others just can’t afford the goods, leading to a decline of the big guy and the little guy (it would probably cause even less people not to buy goods if Companies raise prices-too far- there is no way they can turn a profit.) What we need is highly skilled industry that can not be effectively done in the impoverished regions of East Asian and Latin American countries.
http://www.whistlingshade.com/0704/whistler.html
Interesting article
A good story requires empathy.
The theory of mind some possess is inhuman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masashi_Kishimoto
This is one of my favorite stories:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatokyo
Something I wrote some time ago:
30th-November-2010, 09:09 AM
Tohya Miho – The Mystery of Megatokyo.
The story of Megatokyo revolves around many themes from video games to anime to fantasy vs reality but the main archetypes represented is shown in the character Tohya Miho. Miho is a “Magic Girl”. Where as ninja live by the code of honor magic girls in anime live by the code of love. They help others to find peace and happiness. Though a conscious such are the one Piro and Largo have may guild them along the way, the characters representing Piro and Largo’s conscious can only help them reflect of making right choices. Magic girls see what is in the persons heart and so give more than advice, a true perspective on life because they “know” why people make mistakes and are confused inside. Yuki is another magic girl in the story and here mom once was a magic girl herself. But unlike Miho she is unaware of this until late in the story.
Unlike regular magic girls they do not use magic as often as in anime. Miho once said that her favorite episode of “girl phase” was when the magic girl of that anime saves the day without magic but by being herself when she losses her powers, realizing magic is part who she is along with her personal inner strength and resourcefulness. Unforthcoming Miho sees this as something she can not achieve. Yuki’s father once said that he almost lost Tokyo because of something Tohya Miho did. This has lead everyone to hate her or at least view as a manipulative person.
In one scene Yuki was caught shop lifting (something her mother does by accident) but Tohya lied to the policeman and store clerk by saying the was “using” Yuki to steal it and Yuki was unaware of it. She was protecting her because she believes its almost pointless to change the views portrayed of her. She accepts it as part of what she. As a manipulative person at the core. This explains the behavior seen all through Megatokyo of Tohya Miho. She cant be like the magic girl in “Girl Phase” Everything she does to try to help others is seen a manipulation on her part. She cannot even live up to the fantasy she wants for herself to be.
Yuki is a magic girl trying to save another magic girl but Tohya cannot look at this as something Yuki can do. She refers to Yuki as a “short video game” at the ager she feel for being misunderstood. She thinks she does not deserve love from others when everything that has happen if proof in her mind that manipulative magic girls are not meant for it. She hurts to many people by being herself. When a magic girl hurts the people she love’s they don’t know what to do. An the hurt the feel inside is more complex when they are complex. Yukis mom knows why Tohya is so confused but Tohya interprets her wisdom as confirmation of being a manipulative individual. She is trying to accept that false idea as part of her nature.
Guilt felt from recurrent lashing out deepens the emotional wounds when she cant tell the difference between the feeling that she is justified in having. This is what brings her that guilt, that she confuses people instead of helping them. This what she thinks she did to Piro, making him hate himself but Piro says to her that he had the problems to begin with.
I suspect that Toyha thought she was making Piro addicted to fantasy, to fake love. When kimikos roommate left voice acting Tohya conflicted by what she thought she did to Piro almost made many other people stop believing in themselves. Tohya might have been a really nice magic girl even the best, but she decided to destroyed the entire “End Gamers realm” to try to stop people from their addiction to video games. She thought it would save Piro and everyone but it also took away the healthy fantasies needed for Tokyo.
I like your prose style, AK! But I don’t know a lot about anime. 😦
Pumpkin your thoughts on this? , is this a Sputnik moment? A lot of hbders have been critical of China.
http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/06/sunway-supercomputer-architecture-for.html?m=1
A summary of the article from a commentator on the blog China now has
-Fastest machine
-First in history reach 100P
-The most energy efficient in Top 10
-Three entries in Goddon Bell final for high performance software
-Uses all Chinese chips and interconnect
-Most machines in Top 500
I’m not sure what is considered to be graduate-level reading material, but if I just plug my years of educational reading in a verbal-based field (around 18) into this formula, I come very close to my verbal IQ.
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113 = 62.333+4.333(11.69 grade)
That is my reading level.
If it takes 12 years to get a P.h.D.
Twelve years secondary plus 12 years post-secondary equals: 24
166.325 = 62.333+4.333(24)