It seems people are scared to take the cubes test. You should be. Preliminary norms suggest the test is VERY VERY VERY hard. Of the readers who have taken the test so far, nine of you reported scores on either the SAT or the Wechsler. SAT scores (reading + math) were converted to IQ (U.S. norms) depending on the time period they were taken. If someone reported scores on both the SAT and the Wechsler, I took the average of both.
I found a 0.48 correlation between raw score on cubes (out of 17) and reported Wechsler/SAT score. After correcting for range restriction, the correlation increased to 0.58. By lining up the cube raw scores from highest to lowest beside the Wechsler/SAT scores from highest to lowest, I found the following rough equivalencies. Do not extrapolate beyond these norms as the relationship is anything but linear (as commenter Fraz predicted).
| cubes score (out of 17) | IQ equivalent (U.S. norms) |
| 11 | 144 |
| 8 | 136 |
| 7 | 130 |
| 6 | 128 |
| 4 | 127 |
| 2 | 103 |
Pumpkin Person 
Before computers all math was done by hand.
Yet some people could do math in their head.
Math today is used for many things.
Chips can do a thousand trillion maths a second.
I am trying to get an understanding of what that could do.
This was hard. I got a 9.
I agree this was a hard one. I got a 7, but I was sleep deprived and my gf called me in the middle of the test, so I was distracted trying to do this and talk to her at the same time. I Probably would’ve gotten 1 or 2 more right. I know for sure I would’ve gotten this one but as soon as I went to type the answer my time ran out.
And as usual stuff like this is bias against people with ADHD. I literally had to read some questions like 5 times before I comprehended it.
And as usual stuff like this is bias against people with ADHD. I literally had to read some questions like 5 times before I comprehended it.
I’m surprised you had trouble. You read academic papers which are full of complex dense writing.
exactly!
rr: no way am i a closet homosexual. i have a black baby and and a man bun n shit.
sad!
you just named 2 dispositive signs of closet homosexuality.
“You read academic papers which are full of complex dense writing.”
I do, but it’s the same thing when I read those papers. My ADHD literally makes it to where, when I’m reading a sentence, I will lose focus and attention, so I have to read the sentence again. It’s just something I’ve learned to live with.
exactly!
i drink to make other people less boring. — hitch
stain@sadlystain.com
New paper arguing that PISA, TIMSS and PIRLS are showing learning, not intelligence. Hereditarian cope in 3…2…1…
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1041608024000141
some of it is learning the other is apparent that it is formed by reasoning which is intelligence.
intelligence is the ability 2 learn things in a specific amount of time or it might be a reasoning thing but regardless it’s there in these tests.
and then you can extrapolate 2 critical thinking on these tests which is more so learning but still not the same and similar 2 reasoning but different still!
Why rr is it that people like me learn slow?
What is fluid intelligence?
See ^^^ hereditarian cope.
answer the questions asshole.
Why rr is it that people like me learn slow?
What is fluid intelligence?
THI IS A FACT:
RaceRealist does not believe people learn at different rates.
RaceRealist never believed people differ in intelligence.
Fluid and Crystallized Intelligence
Sprouts channel
You read this yet? I don’t know about you and, to be frank, I don’t really care. All I know is the paper series that international assessments show learning (what was learned), not intelligence. Since IQ and achievement tests are different versions of the same test, can you tell me the correct inference to draw? (Prediction: no answer.)
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2221311120
Since IQ and achievement tests are different versions of the same test,
Says who?
The fact that IQ tests are “validated” against other IQ and achievement tests, which shows the circulatory inherent in them. See also Schwartz (1975). Also the fact that they have similar content.
“For example, IQ tests are so constructed as to predict school performance by testing for specific knowledge or text‐like rules—like those learned in school. But then, a circularity of logic makes the case that a correlation between IQ and school performance proves test validity. From the very way in which the tests are assembled, however, this is inevitable. Such circularity is also reflected in correlations between IQ and adult occupational levels, income, wealth, and so on. As education largely determines the entry level to the job market, correlations between IQ and occupation are, again, at least partly, self‐fulfilling”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5538622/
“achievement tests are often validated using other standardized achievement tests or other measures of cognitive ability—surely a circular practice” and “Validating one measure of cognitive ability using other measures of cognitive ability is circular.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3612993/
https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ115884
Well obviously an IQ test should predict scholastic achievement but at the same time, to qualify for LD classes in many schools, one must show a large IQ > achievement test gap so the two tests are distinct, despite their high correlation in the general school population.
IQ is irrelevant to the definition of LD though.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/002221948902200803
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1989-12307-001
Not according to my source (page 106 of WISC-IV Advanced clinical interpretation by Lawrence G. Weiss et al)
If Crystalized Intelligence is distinct from Fluid Intelligence then learning is not the save as novel problem solving.
I did answer like I did last time, stop being an asshole
In school, they only gave us worksheets not books.
My LD was undetected because they did not assess things in the same way by correct standards.
You DO NOT get correct assessments in all schools or for all students.
No Child Left Behind: A Decade of Failure
How The “No Child Left Behind” Act Failed on Every Level
more lies.
the US does AMAZINGLY well on these tests when adjusted for race.
my middle school was good. my hs was shit.
i imagine it’s even shittier now.
but maybe teaching to the test works.
Canada laughs at U.S. education. There’s no degree one could possibly get in the U.S. that would get you respect in Canada.
ahem.
The poor schools got shut down.
The rich school had money to get best teachers and more.
watch the videos
It does not matter because the best jobs are in the U.S.
At least, it is the case that the smartest people make the most money and run the best companies.
Give smart people money and they do stuff with it.
NASA and science research is heavily invested in.
Look at silicon valley and National Science Foundation.
Look at Hollywood and Sante Fe NM.
Social Darwinism’s is at work heavily here.
It is a brain drain within the U.S. not just to the U.S.
“Not according to my source”
They don’t really address Siegal’s argument though.
“If Crystalized Intelligence is distinct from Fluid Intelligence then learning is not the save as novel problem solving.”
You’re talking as if “fluid intelligence” isn’t learned too. For instance the Raven is perhaps the most enculturated test of all.
So back to the original point at hand—cross-cultural assessments tap learning, not “intelligence.” So if IQ and achievement tests are different versions of the same, can anyone tell me what the correct entailment is?
There’s a lot of overlap between the two and they can often be used interchangeably, but achievement tests typically measure that which is explicitly taught in school while IQ tests measure that which you learned implicitly or inferred during the test itself.
Because fluid intelligence is not about the tests dumbass.
Fluid intelligence is about spatial awareness and getting things where they need to be to solve problems.
You fucking turd, if that is not what intelligence is then you need to specify what it is.
I did so.
And learning needs to be specified as well because not everyone is good at learning.
Learning is about following rules to get certain results from following a procedure.
Not everyone can memorize procedures to get results.
Your “point” about “fluid intelligence” didn’t refute what I said. It’s clear that cross-cultural testing gets at learning, not “intelligence.” And I’ll ask again: If that’s true (and it is), what’s the right inference to draw?
Also tapping this sign again. V
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2221311120
It’s clear that cross-cultural testing gets at learning, not “intelligence.” And I’ll ask again: If that’s true (and it is), what’s the right inference to draw?
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The inference to draw is that those tests will not test true intelligence.
One needs a different mark to test true intelligence.
That makes specifying intelligence important.
and i did do that.
it is getting things where they need to be
to do so you need awareness of where they are
then you can infer what they do when you move them
the result is amiable or non-amiable
–
Executive Function Brain’s Control Center
“but achievement tests typically measure that which is explicitly taught in school while IQ tests measure that which you learned implicitly or inferred during the test itself.”
This is incoherent—they’re both basically the same kinds of tests.
“The inference to draw is that those tests will not test true intelligence.”
You failed. If A and B are different versions of the same kind of thing, then what is true for A is true for B.
This is incoherent
How so?
they’re both basically the same kinds of tests.
A lion and a tiger are both basically the same kind of animal; that doesn’t mean we can’t tell them apart.
It’s incoherent because your source literally only stated the contradiction and referred to Siegal a few times without actually addressing the argument.
And that’s a bad analogy. It’s clear that they’re different versions of the same test, and the knowledge content on them matters since that’s all they are. There’s no distinction between academic achievement tests and IQ tests. So to answer the question for AK since it seems like he doesn’t understand entailments, the correct entailment to draw is that since IQ and achievement tests are different versions of the same test, then performance on both tests are due to learning—what has been learned.
The definition I gave was my own, not from a source.
All tests measure knowledge but not to the same degree. The psychometric tests that are most sensitive to schooling are the ones we tend to call achievement tests. The psychometric tests that are least sensitive to schooling are the ones we tend to call IQ tests.
Of course there are exceptions but that’s a good rule of thumb.
>There’s no distinction between academic achievement tests and IQ tests.
Then make a test that will test true intelligence
>he doesn’t understand entailments, the correct entailment to draw is that since IQ and achievement tests are different versions of the same test
That is not what I said.
If neither IQ tests or achievement tests actually test intelligence then we need a different kind of test.
>performance on both tests are due to learning—what has been learned.
you are supposed to test what cannot be learned i.e. true intelligence. that means not IQ tests and not achievement tests. watch the video on executive control.
Didn’t you say “Not according to my source (page 106 of WISC-IV Advanced clinical interpretation by Lawrence G. Weiss et al)”? The issue is, all tests are knowledge tests. Which aren’t “sensitive to schooling are the ones we tend to call achievement tests”?
“That is not what I said”
You’re confused. I told you the correct entailment based on what I said.
“you are supposed to test what cannot be learned i.e. true intelligence. that means not IQ tests and not achievement tests. watch the video on executive control.”
Go ahead and tell me “what cannot be learned.” Everything is due to cultural context. You really need to read Ken Richardson and Lev Vygotsky. (Prediction: Wikipedia understanding or no response at all.)
Go ahead and tell me “what cannot be learned.”
Storage of discrete information amongst a finite brain or neural network or mind.
Everything is due to cultural context.
Right, except the very definition of knowledge as an abstraction itself, which needs no context, and is what implicity forms the measure of “general cognition”.
Why can’t that be learned?
“General cognition” isn’t a thing.
N-back tasks show that memory can be trained.
It can’t be learned because it is a finite limit. “Memory” being trained might be evidence of actual mental/brain changes in their discrete finite limits or simply existing storage being used more or activated more for a specific task.
Of course, there is a reason why our physical brains are so large and vulnerable instead of being small and easily protected and nourished, which obviously has to do with the direct relation to the apparent discrete limits of our minds.
I mean it’s a pretty robust finding that nback training has both near and far transfer. So memory is therefore learned and trainable.
no far transfer is not a robust finding:
The potential that working memory (WM) training can transfer to untrained tasks that differ substantially from the training task (‘far transfer’) has generated substantial excitement with regard to better understanding the causal relationship between WM and related cognitive processes1,2,3,4,5,6, as well as to applied domains where such training can benefit health and well-being7,8,9,10. In particular, the effectiveness of WM training to improve fluid intelligence has been a controversial and highly debated topic, with some meta-analyses showing a small but significant positive effect on fluid intelligence11,12,13,14,15, while others argue that there is no evidence of generalization to fluid intelligence after training
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-022-01384-w
Jaeggi et al showed it and they showed a dose-dependent relationship to performance on the Raven (the most enculturated subtest).
Click to access 2010_4.pdf
You’re cherry picking one study. The totality of evidence shows this is a nothing burger.
There are apparent FT effects from N-back.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289610001091?via%3Dihub
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25102926/
RR interprets the slightest hint of trainability or subjectivity as meaning something is completely subjective or trainable rather than just showing minor imperfections in the tasks or tests or minor possible cognitive changes still within a mostly predictable range. It’s like that for nearly all the anti-hereditarian studies he mentions.
Fact is, being familiar with the item content will—necessarily—improve scores, since they’re a specific kind of item content found in certain classes. The Raven is the most enculturated test of all, and there is dose-dependent relationship between the Raven and n-back.
>Go ahead and tell me “what cannot be learned.” Everything is due to cultural context.
The structure and energetic systems under which cognitive load is big or small, fast of slow. – This load is both verbal and spatial.
Cognitive load is the buffer under which a person can only hold so much information before losing it.
These buffers are the number of remembered things and the interactions a person can make between them. This also is the number of links a person can make between the interactions with what is in long term memory.
Cognitive Load Theory 1 – An introduction
https://youtu.be/KbzmM30NXNQ?si=KIuQkJLhq96pey3y
Cognitive Load Theory 2 – Working and Long Term memory
Cognitive Load Theory 3 – intrinsic, extraneous, germane.
Cognitive Load Theory 4 – How to test learning?
^^^retards arguing with retards about who is more retarded^^^
strength vs IQ analogy.
streetshitters can lift and lift and lift and juice and juice and juice and NEVER even come close to the strength of pipo like paul anderson and especially if paul anderson had done the same.
yet paul anderson was born a weak midget. just like everyone.
Thanks for the input you worthless drunk.
I’m unsure how that’s supposed to refute what I said about FT and WM and the fact that cross-cultural assessments tap learning (and by identity so do IQ tests due to what I argued above). Interestingly enough, there’s a small pilot study showing that those in the online modules had higher intrinsic cognitive load (one’s effort associated with a specific topic), germane cognitive load (memory used to integrate new information, basically how easy it is for someone to link new information to existing information), and lower extraneous cognitive load (difficulty of processing new information which is extraneous to the learner). This stuff is also used quite a decent amount in the medical field.
PP on suicide watch, Lynn’s “imputations” of “IQs” based on “neighboring countries” blasted:
“To our mind, however, a fatal flaw in this and other work that attempts to produce international measures of intelligence (e.g., Lynn and Becker, 2019; Lynn and Meisenberg, 2010) is that he and co authors “impute” scores for countries without estimating by as singing them the scores of neighboring countries. Their rationale is that countries in proximity to one another will have estimates that are “closely similar.” Just a few examples — using PISA 2018 results — suggest that such an approach is patently wrong. For instance, neighboring countries Malaysia and Indonesia earned reading scores of 415 and 371 respectively. On the PISA scale (with an historic mean and standard deviation of 500 and 100), these countries digger by nearly half a standard deviation in reading performance. An even more extreme example is between Malaysia and Singapore, the latter of which is among the very highest performing countries with a 2018 reading score of 549. Here, the difference is over one and a half standard deviations on the PISA scale. Clearly, it makes little sense to blindly impute scores from neighboring countries, regardless of the sort of measure (i.e., infant mortality rates, achievement, or per capita GDP). Nor is such an approach justified anywhere in modern missing data literature (Enders, 2022; Little and Rubin, 2002; Ludtke et al, 2020). This sort of data adjustment is a common feature in such studies, where changes in scores are made which are either poorly or not justified and that often remains opaque to readers.”
what rr says is true. what lurker/peepee say is false and retarded.
but why does rr think what he says isn’t obvious and therefore unimportant? why argue with little babies like peepee/lurker?
would he argue with flat earthers?
lurker/peepee = flat earthers
IQ tests = achievement tests = so what?
peepee/lurker is a brainwashed evil retard.
Oh shut up Mug of Pee!
just because the only test you didn’t fail was technically just an achievement test, we now have to drag all IQ tests down to that level just to satisfy your bloated ego.
people differ in cognitive load
some can deal with more information and others less information (the number of chucks (spatial/verbal) remembered and the interrelations between them linking to long term memory)
This stuff is also used quite a decent amount in the medical field.
what stuff? what medical field?
How would you feel if you didn’t eat breakfast this morning?
RR you need working memory first b4 you can learn. That means that IQ tests measuring working memory will take a precedent over achievement tests because you have 2 master one first b4 you can do the other.
working memory is needed 2 learn but you can also build your working memory only by giving your attention 2 working memory tasks.
working memory and other categories of intelligence are monolithic and that’s why we have 2 pay attention 2 just that.
Working memory requires learning in a different way than learning requires working memory.
How would you feel if you didn’t eat breakfast this morning?
what is he talking about peepee?
how would you feel if you didn’t have a manbun?
rr doesn’t make any sense.
The original poster purportedly performed IQ research on convicts at San Quentin State Prison sometime before 2021. They stated that they asked the Breakfast Question to gauge the intelligence of individual inmates. In turn, the inmates with low IQ scores would say, “But I had breakfast this morning,” not understanding the conditional nature of the question.
what stuff? what medical field?
there’re only two medical specialties that might use cognitive tests. and none like jaegi did.
doctor i have uncontrollable diarrhea.
rr MD: take these IQ tests, read these papers by steinberg & bergstein, and call me in the morning.
maybe rr is refusing to answer because he was caught in a lie.
maybe he’s referring to the effect of no breakfast on school performance.
what stuff? what medical field?
You have the verbal and non-verbal components of tests. Both are culture-bound.
Guys RR doesn’t even believe in the concept of intelligence. He believes everyone is equally intelligent. Hahaha. Why are we talking to this angry social justice warrior. Hes basically screaming ‘Black Lives Matter’ in every thread.
doctors think they’re gods. but they’re just nerds.
dude! rr is a fitness trainer who claims IQ tests can be and are effectively always
trained!
so the money is A LOT better in training pipo to take the SAT, LSAT, GMAT, MCAT, etc….
yang of yang gang fame knows.
[redacted by pp, 2024-03-20] commented in rr’s blog once saying:
look rr. if you can devise a test black score at least as high as whites on you’ll be an insta-very rich person.
rr didn’t unnuhstan that sailer was out-autism-ing him.
cognitive load is not culturally constructed
some have more than others
the buffer is big, medium or small for people’s cognitive load
Chimp vs Human! | Memory Test | BBC Earth
TP,
right! this is what i mean.
rr’s illogic:
IQ/achievement test scores is acquired. FACT!
blacks are smarter than their IQs say they are. FACT!
therefore ban IQ tests and everyone is equal because philosophy and animals don’t have minds and evolution by natural selection is impossible. FALSE!
that’s not what i said. you don’t unnuhstan what i’m saying.
but i do. and it’s
FALSE!
maybe rr is actually living in argentina and trying to discredit anti-HBD because he celebrates hitler’s birthday.
justsadly@sad.com
blacks are smarter than their IQs say they are.
So what percent of the 15 point black-white IQ gap in the U.S. is genetic?
i’ll answer after you admit you’re black.
“So what percent of the 15 point black-white IQ gap in the U.S. is genetic?”
0.
It takes intelligence to be against intelligence – pumpkin person
true pp
so true
Intellect is about how you see the scope of the learned ideas put 2gether.
RR doesn’t see that. He wants you 2 believe in chunks etc but the truth is you want 2 vary output by input.
you must look at a bigger picture! Thats where intelligence becomes demanded!
I am one of the people who took the cubes test and reported an SAT score. I found the test to be very difficult (although admittedly spatial reasoning is much harder for me than matrices, for example). However, part of the challenge was the quality of the graphics. One of the pictures looked liked it should have had two rows of stacked cubes, but based on the perspective I wasn’t sure if it was supposed to be one or two. Eventually I imagined it was just one row. Based on the correct answer, I should have picked two rows. There was another image that looked like an optical illusion to me. Sometimes it looked like the cubes were stacked vertically, and other times it looked like they were facing to the right. So I had trouble interpreting how the cubes were supposed to look. On the other hand, maybe that is part of the test!
I got a 4. I think my spatial is dead average although it could be as high as 115!
I think I’m uniquely bright in verbosity though. And mathematics.
SMS = sexy man syndrome can be fatal.
i know!
one night girls tried to beat down my door (when i lived in dorm in college).
bang! crash! bang! etc.
the next morning i opened my door and there were a bunch of pictures of nude men and close ups of penises.
this REALLY happened.
negro@silly.com
They were trying to run you off campus for being gay but because low social IQ, you thought they liked you.
PP is there any speculation on why autists do well on IQ tests? Systematizing vs empathizing are very important here im an empathizer.
what makes systematizing so useful 2 doing well on tests of objectivity…do they treat the tests in a specific way that empathizes cannot.
overall autists are much more intelligent than autists in the classical ways but autists lag behind neurotypicals in so many other ways!
That’s a tough question. On the one hand, one in 3 diagnosed autistics are retarded so the median IQ is very low. On the other hand, lots of brilliant people seem to be on the autism spectrum and engineers are thought to produce the most autistic kids. My guess is that a little autism makes you (seem) smart, but too much lowers IQ, especially social IQ.
Getting things where they need to be is hard.
Sure you can memorize what other people have done.
But doing it yourself without instructions takes something more.
11
King!!!!!
I got 6 correct.
I knew I would likely do relatively poorly on this test as I’ve done a test with a similar format (the AGCT copy available on Reddit), where the spatial questions were constructed in a very similar manner.
On that test I did well on the quant and verbal portion but scored much lower on the spatial component, dragging down the provided FSIQ.
I am diagnosed with ADHD, and I believe this test places a great strain on spatial working memory in particular, which I think is a weakness for many people with ADHD.
btw hitch’s atheism has been greatly exaggerated.
he was an anti-religion agnostic.
not an actual crazy person.
I got a 5.
[redacted by pp, 2024-03-18]
so trump is the CIA candidate?
and all those jan 6 people in jail for trespassing are casualties of a professional wrestling script in real life?
IDIOT! Stop talking about the CIA as if the U.S. is its own country you low SAT Chomsky puppet. Trump is the Mossad candidate and the CIA is just their U.S. branch:
Puppy is correct that the CIA is a subsidiary of Mossad. But Trump isn’t the Mossad candidate. Haley is.
Trump is even more pro-Israel than New York Jewish senators like Chuck Schumer. So embarrassing.
Use your brain Puppy. If he was the Mossad candidate he wouldn’t be indicted 91 times, be told by the courts to pay $500m in fines and be accused of being a russian spy by the media. Literally every single media outlet is against trump except Fox (sometimes).
Fox is the only one controlled by a gentile.
The jewish donors spent $300m on Haley and De Santis this cycle as well to knock out Trump.
I think Bibi wanted Trump but the pro-Israel elites in the U.S. prefer Biden because he’s almost as pro-Israel but without making it so obvious and without the white nationalism that Jews in the U.S. fear but that is not a concern for Israeli Jews like Bibi.
But obviously they couldn’t expose Trump’s collusion with Bibi (and potential blackmail from Epstein?) without making Israel look bad, so instead they accused him of colluding with/being blackmailed by Putin.
the friend vs enemy distinction
why is my enemy my enemy?
(why is my friend my friend?)
reigning ideology: because he has bad ideas.
nazi ideology: because genes yo.
consequences: ???
petit nationalism of one person vs every man is his own church
there’s plenty of nazism in the teachings of jesus.
You could probably pull examples from the Purdue Spatial Visualization Test for better questions.
I sent it to you email.
some places are just stupider than others. 4 example Texas is stupider than other states. There are differences in intelligence or as RR calls it learning in areas other than race!
Has Chomsky commented on the Gaza genocide yet?
Has Chomsky commented on the Tutsi Genocide Hoax that his former co-author wrote about?
hey, Mr.Philosopher, do you also comment under a different handle on the Occidental Dissent blog? You sound a lot like a guy on there, although there are some differences. I won’t say the actual name for privacy. Just curious.
Your fan
Never visited that blog.
Whats Trudeau’s stance on Gaza?
He’s very critical of Israel.
it is a casualty 2 an individual 2 be right where the established are wrong.
sometimes you have 2 feign ignorance 2 get things done in life in regards 2 society!
I think the main problem with cubes is that its written instructions are bad. If the instructions were better written, it would be a better test with a few other changes. That said, anyone who got like 15 or better on this test without having seen it before is probably very high IQ.
Random, but what might be Tyler Perry‘s IQ? I guess something between 125 and 135.
I’ve been meaning to do an article on him.
Height correlated with IQ would suggest at 6’5” (196 cm) Tyler Perry has at least an IQ of 96. Obviously success and apparent homosexuality and taste for crossdressing might be other factors to consider.
Basing the height correlation on this:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2018/07/30/iq-differences-in-height-by-race-sex/
Shaquille O’Neal is seven feet and has an IQ of a hundred according 2 sources.
where did my comment 2 Lurker go where I mentioned Shaquille O’Neal had a hundred IQ and was seven feet?
apparent homosexuality and taste for crossdressing ?
I am not getting that vibe from him on the former and have no idea about the latter.
It’s in his movies
Puppy will say its 170 because of his [redacted by pp, 2024-03-19]statistical method:
Richest black in 1 billion blacks.
Ergo must be 170.
That would only be if the correlation were perfect worldwide. As I said the correlation is barely 0.5 in just the U.S.
When are you going to take the cubes test?
Its 0.5 according to your bullshit calculations the other day.
You’re the one who is always arguing how smart George Soros and other Jewish money people are, so I don’t know why you think the correlation is so low.
PP why are you refusing 2 post comments about Shaquille O’Neal!
he is not as bad of a guy as you think he is!
They’re posted now
totally hilarious.
rr: that’s not hilarious. i’m hilarious.
indeed. sad.
march madness in ‘mer’ca. that’s a towel not a sandwich. sad.
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.fe1ae5ae0526b3b41d8bf91c1de28e73?rik=DRPplCLVaVwuaA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fcbssports.com%2fimages%2ftarkanianobituary.jpg&ehk=EEgMBhxjEtbuDJHUlbN3mOAZCDIxhlqa0mBDSuuEk60%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
tark the shark was like the luis suarez of college basketball. he liked to bite.
Will Ferrell is great.
LOADED >>> PILL in terms of IQ and neurotypicalness
^^^AUTISM^^^
thank you Mug you are one heck of a dude! 🙂
hope PP and all of us can come 2gether and treat you with respect!
Lmao. The world was quite different then…
it’s interesting 2 note that reasoning is a different set of tools than the ones related 2 learning.
learning is about acquiring knowledge and reasoning is how we implement that knowledge in2 action or at least how we get results from it!
Hi, PP. Long-time lurker, this being my first time commenting. How many more subtests to go, and what would they measure, before we can begin to calculate composite scores?
Have not decided yet. You can always calculate full-scale IQ at any point but the more tests one includes, the more accurate it will be.
Cool. I used vocab, puzzles, PATMA, knowledge, comprehension, picture arrangement, and cubes, converted IQ scores to “scaled scores” with mean 10 and SD 3, prorated the 7 scores to 10 and then used your rough formula to calculate a WAIS-like FSIQ from 10 scaled subtest scores. Sounds about right?
Amazingly, the score I obtained is spot on when compared to my FSIQs from respectable online sources.
Spatial memory versus linguistic memory is an interesting thing 2 note.
spatial memory will require working memory since it needs 2 be precise and linguistic memory is more processing speed because it requires you 2 apply the best usage of a particular word.
New results showing that genetically identical mice has alternative reproductive tactics based on the social conditions in the field they were in. Strange…
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2024.0099
P1. rr wants to ban IQ tests.
P2. IQ tests and achievement tests are the same test.
C. rr wants to ban achievement tests.
i might think rr wasn’t chatGPT if he’d responded to this comment as follows:
i don’t want to ban IQ tests. i want to ban the promotion of any test as an IQ test. i want to ban false advertising.
this would still be a TOTALLY INSANE thing to say.
but unnuhstannable. i mean unnuhstannably retarded.
rr has reached the 9,000 level of retardation.
Is there ever a time where rationality is downgraded below irrationality.
In what circumstances can logic like RR uses become irrational. Vice versa should be asked as well.
I think RR has self righteous rationality which translates 2 irrational beliefs.
Something out of nothing and nothing out of something.
Admit it – Tyler Perry must be a genius by the same criteria you judged Oprah to be. He even gets double points for being a homo.
Yet another black hollywood actor was caught today beating his gf up lol. The stereotypes are if anything understating the problem with blacks.
The only jewish celeb I know who signed the letter denouncing Glazer’s pro palestinian speech at the Oscars is Eli Roth. I think Roth has worked with Weinstein in the past. The other celebs are B list.
All the A list jewish celebs haven’t signed it which is interesting.
Well Hollywood is ultra liberal. In the 2000s I remember all the A list actresses adopting black babies. It was a craze at the time. There was also that jewish cult Kabbalah that they all joined. This was before scientology got big.
Obviously the black baby thing died out. Very uncommon today.
I expect 90% of celebs are pro palestine but can’t say it in case they get the Mel Gibson treatment.
The only actor who wore a pro palestine pin was Mark Ruffalo. That guy is ultra progressive. Fair fucks to him. Now he is going to be unemployed for the next few years.
The media went crazy at Mel Gibson for saluting Donald Trump at a sporting event. LOL.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Puppy adopted a black baby.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Pill kicked a bunch of Palestinians out of their house as he moved in to the occupied territories.
lmao
Has Bill Gates adopted a black baby?
He’s the last person who would do that
his eldest daughter married a North African iirc and his youngest dated a black guy.
North Africans are Caucasoid, both genetically and morphologically.
??? Are you serious?? He is the first person in the world that would do it.
yeah I mean I think he’s Egyptian. Even if he’s caucasoid most whites in the proper sense do not like other caucasoids being affiliated with them!
Yeah Gates probably was delighted when his daughter went with a black guy. He was probably posting about it on social media more than she was.
Fascism and Communism are the main sources of our political structure 2 this very day.
Donald Trump is indeed a fascist but is only in it 4 his own success whereas the other fascists may genuinely care about the well being of their country.
Communism is supported by the woke mob 2day because they lack the skills 2 acquire a lot of money or have money and can’t self actualize.
Fascists are kind of like that where they have skills but can’t self actualize either so they want certain people 2 put things in order.
Fascism was more in practice at one point but is now delegated 2 communism but we all know the one that will survive will be the utilitarian one because that is the principle philosophy at play in the rational mind and societal consciousness.
Just more schizo garbage. Its like word bingo or some sort of soup.
liar
The other day Puppy admitted he was an AA hire. So no surprise he backs up Oprah and Bill Cosby. Shameless.
1) The only affirmative action Oprah got was for a job she got as a teenager and she ended up getting fired from the news business anyway. The rest of her success was pure free market capitalism during an era of real anti-black racism.
2) You’re very naive if you think other races just get ahead by relying only on the free market. In fact one of the biggest ways high IQ people adapt to their environment is by manipulating politics to their advantage. Jewish Americans manipulated government so that their Wall street billion$ were protected during the financial crisis. Why do you begrudge black Americans (who worked for free in America for hundreds of years) using politics to get just the tiniest slice of the American pie (in Oprah’s case a job on local TV making only $22 K a year)? That’s how the game works. If anything blacks are held back by too many of them believing in the conservative pull yourself up by your bootstraps mindset.
First of all affirmative action is wrong morally and legally. If you want equal treatment under the law, the courts, employers and universities, then equal means equal.
And anyway, I don’t even believe in civil rights equal results personally. I think ‘seperate but equal’ is fine.
Second I burst out laughing when you said Oprah and Cosby was free market captialism. These two evil clowns were purposely promoted by the jews to ameliorate black-white relations at a time when there was a gigantic crime rampage in America from you know who. The fact Cosby ended up being the worst example of black on white crime is even more sickening/hilarious. Putting Oprah and Cosby on tv was basically the 1980s version of quotas in Hollywood. Back in the 80s the jewish studio heads couldn’t possibly push movies with black leading actors and actresses so the next best thing was putting blacks into tv roles. At the end of the day people have to listen to the news, not the person reading out the script. The fact Oprah failed as a newsreader is the most damning evidence that she had no basic talent. She then descended into Jerry Springer type clickbait entertainment. To this day she encouraged a C list black actress to accuse the Queen of England of being racist for the clicks and the benjamins.
Today black celebs are more talented than earlier ones like Oprah and Cosby. They are genuinely athletic or musically talented or funny. Oprah and Cosby are basically the earliest and shoddiest examples I can think of affirmative action. I’m an expert in celebs and hollywood so I doubt I’m forgetting anyone.
First of all affirmative action is wrong morally and legally. If you want equal treatment under the law, the courts, employers and universities, then equal means equal.
But you have no problem with all the white and Jewish bankers stealing trillions of dollars from the middle class and virtually none of them going to jail. Meanwhile a black guy gets years inn prison for possession of drugs. How is that equal treatment under the law?
Second I burst out laughing when you said Oprah and Cosby was free market captialism. These two evil clowns were purposely promoted by the jews to ameliorate black-white relations at a time when there was a gigantic crime rampage in America from you know who.
First of all, Jews would not be promoting blacks unless it was good for them too, so this is just another form of free market capitalism except the customer is Jewish elites. It shows Oprah’s genius that she was able to exploit the opportunity.
Second many Jews hated Oprah when she first started because they thought she pandered too much to white women and did click bait shows that promoted anti-semetic tropes. In fact there was an oganized Jewish campaign to take her off the air after she did a show about Jewish devil worshipers. It was only AFTER Oprah achieved wealth and fame and thus now wanted respect from elites that she started behaving in ways that gained Jewish praise.
Putting Oprah and Cosby on tv was basically the 1980s version of quotas in Hollywood.
Complete nonsense. Oprah was put in syndication because her low budget local morning talk show in Chicago became the first talk show in TV history to beat Donahue in the ratings. As a result, two gentiles, Roger and Michael King, wanted to syndicate her to make themselves rich. Her success was 100% grassroots, an immediate blockbuster success with the public. In fact her show was so successful she literally ran Donahue out of town. The #1 talk show in America had to leave Chicago and host his show from New York because a low budget local show had so overshadowed him.
Back in the 80s the jewish studio heads couldn’t possibly push movies with black leading actors and actresses
All the more reason why the black entertainers who made it in the 80s had to be twice as good
The fact Oprah failed as a newsreader is the most damning evidence that she had no basic talent.
No it’s evidence that her talents were in the more improvisational and creative field of TV talk shows
She then descended into Jerry Springer type clickbait entertainment.
Because she was smart enough to know what the public wanted
Today black celebs are more talented than earlier ones like Oprah and Cosby.
The exact opposite of the truth. Today media companies are so desperate to prove they’re woke and avoid social media backlash that there aren’t enough talented blacks to fill the enormous demand. Back in the 1980s, it was just the opposite. There were so few opportunities that only the best and brightest blacks got to dominate the culture: People like Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, Tracy Chapman, Toni Morrison, Bill Cosby and above all, Oprah. These are some of the greatest entertainers in the World!
As one reviewer said “Oprah Winfrey is sharper than Donahue, wittier, more genuine, and far better attuned to her audience, if not the World”
Another said “She’s a roundhouse, a full course meal, big, brassy, loud, aggressive, hyper, laughable, lovable, soulful, tender, low-down, earthy and hungry.”
Anyone who knows anything about broadcasting will tell you Oprah’s a once in a generation meteoric talent though your severe autism may prevent you from seeing that:
“If anything blacks are held back by too many of them believing in the conservative pull yourself up by your bootstraps mindset.”
I don’t think so, plus that is filtered through extreme Dunning-Krueger to where many blacks think simply smiling and projecting confidence is working hard and hustling.
The black slaves’ room, board, and healthcare weren’t free.
As one reviewer said “Oprah Winfrey is sharper than Donahue, wittier, more genuine, and far better attuned to her audience, if not the World”
Another said “She’s a roundhouse, a full course meal, big, brassy, loud, aggressive, hyper, laughable, lovable, soulful, tender, low-down, earthy and hungry.”<
Quoting your own reviews of her shows. So embarrassing.
So you don’t find it very weird how an ugly obese black woman with no qualifications was given a newsreader role? Do you think you would get a job like that?
Then in her first show a jew chaperoned her and got her the job as well as held her hand and mentored her.
She then used her partnership with Weinstein to get into Hollywood. Producing drivel and getting herself roles in the big screen. So shameful. Once the Harvey thing became known she offered to give him an interview to prove his innocence LOL.
Todays black celebs can be AA hires sure, but the vast majority of musicians, comedians and athletes are there on merit because its basically really hard to shove these down peoples throats. But other stuff like Tervor Noah and Don Lemon and other retarded hosts and ‘models’ and ambassadors and politicians…yeah theyre all AA dumbasses.
The bottom line is the AA has to stop. It was never a good thing. The supreme court striking down Brown v Board of Ed and segregation was a horrific mistake that cost thousands of lives.
Quoting your own reviews of her shows. So embarrassing.
Those are reviews written by TV critics that appeared in newspapers when her show went national in 1986
So you don’t find it very weird how an ugly obese black woman with no qualifications was given a newsreader role?
No because she had already been hosting a black radio shows since she was 16 and had won two major beauty contests (Miss Black Nashville & Miss Black Tennessee) thanks to her talent for dramatic interpretation. She also lied and said she had experience with a TV camera etc. She was also young & thin when first hired:
But yes, there looking for black talent because TV news was 99.9% white in those days so they were under pressure from civil rights groups to stop discriminating. That job was the only affirmative action she ever got & she performed magnificently. It was only when she was recruited to work in a bigger market in Baltimore that she got fired from news.
Then in her first show a jew chaperoned her and got her the job as well as held her hand and mentored her.
After she was fired from her news job in Baltimore, they put her on a local morning talk show with a co-host who happened to be Jewish just to run out her contract. It wasn’t meant to be permanent, but from the very day Oprah knew it was where she belonged and to everyone’s shock, the show became a massive success and Oprah spent her twenties as the Queen of Baltimore. The show was such a hit, she was offered a job hosting her very own local show in Chicago against Phil Donahue. Everyone warned her not to go, saying it would be a suicide mission to try to compete with the king of talk shows in his own backyard. They said Chicago was a racist city and that she was too black and too fat stand a chance.
But she decided to go anyway and to everyone’s shock, she utterly clobbered Donahue in the ratings.
“The difference between Donahue and me, is ME!” she explained.
She then used her partnership with Weinstein to get into Hollywood.
No she entered Hollywood back when Weinstein was still a nobody trying to break into the industry himself with cheap Friday the 13th rip-offs like THE BURNING. Quincy Jones happened to catch her show during a trip to Chicago and thought she’d be perfect for the overweight character in THE COLOR PURPLE. The performance won an Oscar nomination and that combined with her later status as Queen of the World allowed her to dabble in acting as a once a decade side-hustle. Sucking up to Weinstein didn’t hurt either.
Todays black celebs can be AA hires sure, but the vast majority of musicians, comedians and athletes are there on merit because its basically really hard to shove these down peoples throats.
It was harder in Oprah’s day because America only had tolerance for one or two super successful black entertainers at a time, so it was Michael Jackson in 1983, Cosby in 1984, Oprah and Cosby from 1985 to 1993, Oprah alone for the rest of the 1990s etc. Because there were so few slots, it was survival of the absolute fittest. Today it’s just the opposite, there are so many slots for black talent that even third-rate talent gets exposure. Also, back then the media was controlled by like 72 different companies. Today it’s only six, so it only takes a few elites to push one person across virtually every platform, from youtube to CNN.
Bill Gates wants a black baby like most upper class women want a prada handbag. Afro’s parents were like that. Its an accessory. Its like wearing a cross was 200 years ago.
Bill Gates is above the IQ range where people care about such things.
Is this the same Bill Gates that went to Jeffrey Epstein for marriage advice? Whose own wife divorced him after he kept meeting Epstein because she was sickened by his weird behaviour?
Wonder what his daughters think about his friendship with Epstein….
delaying gratification is useless nowadays because of idiots like Aeoli and his masters
Pill is the biggest idiot aside from that
I don’t mean that negatively though I just mean it’s inclusive and beneficial in understanding why delay of gratification might be worse
nothing wrong with being an idiot from time 2 time I do that a lot depending on context but overall it’s just not healthy
Pill is a malevolent person which means his idiocy is way different than anyone else’s
there’s malice incompetence and evil but id say there’s a big difference between malice and evil
I can’t do it (something I tell myself that I feel needs respect)
PP can’t take a hint and allow chat rooms on his blog! Don’t know if you’d need 2 contact WordPress 2 achieve that though
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
this needs 2 be taught 2 everyone in society and everyone shall prosper!
PP and I share a fascination 4 evil geniuses. I am a benevolent simple folk who sees the potential in being a genius with twisted capabilities!
This was a hard test, but I honestly gave up near the end, as I tend to do when faced with too much reading and too much mental math. I got 7, but I genuinely feel like I could’ve gotten 8 if I realized I still had 78 seconds left. It would make me feel better anyways; I assume this leans more nonverbal, so would cohere well at 136 with my nonverbal score.
Another excuse, taking this right after waking up (I don’t really believe in these types of excuses – at least I don’t have a good reason to).
I got 11 correct but answered 8 instead of 10 on the third question because I thought it was supposed to be a trick.
Still unsure how the 9th question was wrong. I got [redacted by pp, 2024-03-29] Apart from that question, if I had like 30 minutes, I’m pretty sure I could have gotten all of them correct. I generally score highest in spatial reasoning in online IQ tests. I feel like spatial reasoning tends to correlate quite well with non-verbal reasoning but I didn’t get a perfect score on the SATM so I guess I could be wrong.
6/17. My verbal deficiencies do not help here. Didn’t know the definition of “cube” means the [redacted by pp, 2024-03-30]. I also somehow didn’t catch the word [redacted by pp, 2024-03-30]about the painted ones and assumed all the [redacted by pp, 2024-03-30] because what kind of psychopath wouldn’t turn [redacted by pp, 2024-03-30]
11/17.