[You can take the cubes test here. Email optional. You can register with a fake name]
As I analyze the data from the general knowledge test, I thought I would post the cubes test. Tests of cube analysis date back to World War I and perhaps before. The subest was supposed to be part of the Wechsler intelligence scales but they decided to drop it. Wechsler (1958) wrote:
The Cube Analysis test was discarded after being given to over 1000 subjects because it showed large sex differences, proved difficult to get across to subjects of inferior intelligence and because it tapered off abruptly at the upper levels…Apparently others have had less discouraging results with the test; it was included in the Army GCT (World War II). We still think that the test has serious shortcomings.
I’m a bit surprised that Wechsler found the test hard to administer to low grade people as part of what attracted me to the test was its utter simplicity, however perhaps duller subjects don’t grasp what a cube is or have problems perceiving drawings of them.
Despite such warnings, I decided to include the cube test in my battery. For starters, excluding a test because of sex differences seems unscientific because it assumes a priori that the sexes have equal intelligence and there’s no reason to think that. Wechsler didn’t apply that procedure when it comes to race, so why apply it when it comes to sex. Perhaps because the Binet test found little or no sex differences and that was seem as the gold standard before the Wechsler was developed and perhaps because if he did apply that standard to race he’d have virtually no subtests left.
My second reason for including this in the PAIS is I wanted at least one test involving blocks since these hold nostalgic value from being tested as a child.
Finally, I needed more spatially loaded content.
As already mentioned, you can take the test here.
sadlystan@sad.com said:
SEVERE autism is sad.
RaceRealist said:
I took the first.
Score24/28 (85%)Duration04m:46s
Should be 27/28, spelling mistakes due to autocorrect got me.
RaceRealist said:
And you asked what X was most known for. Anyone in the know would say what I did. So I got 27/28.
The Philosopher said:
Obviously he cheated.
RaceRealist said:
Obviously you’re a hater.
pumpkinperson said:
Very impressive. I knew your general knowledge was high but I didn’t think it was that high. I don’t think I’ll give you credit for for JOE because the test explicitly said “one word” and if I break that rule the test can never become fully automized, but I’ll definitely give you credit for NAME since that was just another spelling error that the computer can be told to accept. Then there was the FOUNDER question where your answer was a plural. Did you mean to imply multiple founders or was that auto-correct?
black lesbians gonna black lesbian. said:
very gay.
sad.
rr also promised he’d take another test.
STILL WAITING!
sad.
RaceRealist said:
For FOUNDER, singular. And putting the answer I put for JOE implies that I know the answer that was looked for. As for the lady question, I’ve never heard of that before. Did anyone answer that right?
pumpkinperson said:
You correctly answered the Lady question. Maybe you mean the Native American question. I don’t think anyone got that but I’m not done analyzing.
Yes you knew the JOE question but tests have to be scored by objective criteria in order to be standardized which means in some cases we don’t get credit for everything we know.
just pure lower class = peepee said:
^^^so the mind is measurable^^^
how can rr's "score" be confirmed? oh it can't be. sad. said:
Very impressive. I knew your general knowledge was high but I didn’t think it was that high. I don’t think I’ll give you credit for for JOE because the test explicitly said “one word” and if I break that rule the test can never become fully automized, but I’ll definitely give you credit for NAME since that was just another spelling error that the computer can be told to accept. Then there was the FOUNDER question where your answer was a plural. Did you mean to imply multiple founders or was that auto-correct?
^^^pure satanic autism^^^
pumpkinperson said:
Well maybe he’ll agree to a follow-up general knowledge test on zoom where I can see that he’s not cheating.
LOADED said:
4
The Philosopher said:
Am I banned now? Youre banning every single comment.
The Philosopher said:
You know I’ve been here 7 years and nobody has ever accused puppy of being a jew. Theres some evidence that his ‘caucasian’ father, may in fact be of the high IQ gypsy variety.
The Philosopher said:
Every ‘liberal’ jew – Bernie, Marianne Williamson, Krugman, Stiglitz, Chomsky, Ezra klein and so on should come out and condemn the fascist Israeli government and the genocide in Gaza.
pumpkinperson said:
I suspect the real reason they’re trying to ban tic toc has nothing to do with China, and everything to do with Israel & all the criticism it’s getting.
Fraz said:
agree, precisely. It’s about media control.
pumpkinperson said:
^^I was right! Social IQ off the scale:
The Philosopher said:
Jews despise media they don’t control with the exception being Murdoch who they cajoled into pushing the Iraq war. I bet Murdoch literally has really frank conversations with jewish elites about which wars to support or what countries to invade.
Name said:
Why cannot it be both peeps?
pumpkinperson said:
Because look at the timing.
"i am a compulsive LYING retarded piece of shit." --- peepee telling the truth said:
AS AFRO SAID…
PEEPEE LITERALLY CAN’T STOP LYING.
“VERY IMPRESSIVE!” — PEEPEE LYING AGAIN
rr promised he’d take the last test.
APPARENTLY HE DIDN’T.
STILL WAITING!
pumpkinperson said:
He’s talking about the last test.
LOADED said:
I only got four questions right on this test lemme know once the norms are up!
STILL WAITING FOR PEEPEE TO GIVE AN ACTUAL TEST! said:
then he’s LYING or “the test” (= your test) is mostly about oprah.
pumpkinperson said:
Why don’t you take it and judge for yourself?
The Philosopher said:
Puppy is so gullible. RR got the same score as a 170IQ american (Cartouche) even though hes a fitness trainer that dropped out of high school and can’t make basic logical arguments without quoting jews and doesn’t believe in evolution or basic genetics. His SAT score equates to an 80 IQ.
Yet on an ‘open book’ test with google, puppy said his score was ‘very impressive’. Jesus christ.
pumpkinperson said:
Puppy is so gullible.
Says the guy who was duped by an autistic into thinking the U.S. government has dead bodies of alien pilots.
I’m giving RR the benefit of the doubt on this one because just in the field of my own expertise (psychometrics) he shows post-doctorate level knowledge. Not understanding, but factual knowledge. So if he knows that much in my domain, he might shows similar knowledge in other domains.
Also RR shows several high IQ correlates: freakishly huge brain; six figure income achieved at very young age; extreme social liberalism (black baby);atheist; child prodigy in literacy; intellectual interests; entrepreneurial and so forth.
So it’s not implausible that he’s extremely high in at least ONE cognitive area. Doesn’t mean his full-scale IQ is anywhere near as high.
The Philosopher said:
Even the ‘logical arguments’ he quotes from these jewish papers are based on fraudulent data and semantic arguments rather than dialectical ones.
RaceRealist said:
TP did you take the test? Those questions were easy.
RaceRealist said:
“even though hes a fitness trainer”
You say this like it’s an insult. Every day I “work” I do what I love so it doesn’t feel like work. And I make great money, I don’t even need to work 5 days a week.
“that dropped out of high school”
No I graduated.
“and can’t make basic logical arguments without quoting jews”
I construct my own arguments all the time.
“and doesn’t believe in evolution or basic genetics.”
I believe the extended evolutionary synthesis, and it has explanatory power and makes successful novel predictions.
The Philosopher said:
Marsha called him the dumbest commenter. And his interest in post doc psychometrics???? AHAHAHAHA He doesn’t even believe IQ exists LOL. Not even a psych undergrad on the first day is that stupid.
The Philosopher said:
Is [redacted by pp, 2024-03-16]. Just one word answer pls.
pumpkinperson said:
Yes
The Philosopher said:
I’d be surprised if RR is even capable of doing basic algebra to be frank. But its also true he pretends to be dumb so that he can’t ‘understand’ basic genetics and the theory of natural selection.
If you follow RR’s arguments, he rejects men came from apes, and if they do, they have the same IQ as apes ipso facto.
RaceRealist said:
You’re delusional.
The Philosopher said:
But surely the dumbest commentator is Loaded, then followed by a toss up between Melo and RR.
None of these 3 clowns have autism however, which is even worse for common sense than being an animal.
sad said:
LOADED is over your head.
sad@ly.com
The Philosopher said:
RR pisses me off maybe even more than Bruno is how self righteous and angry he is at us for not liking the blacks as much as him. Its comical how brainwashed this guy is.
RaceRealist said:
How triggered are you right now?
wow! sadly@sadly.com! said:
i took peepee’s test and i scored 28/28 in 25s.
and i didn’t look up the answers like some people.
sad.
The Philosopher said:
I think even Bruno would admit he was wrong to vote for Macron. When Macron started saying French soldiers should be sent to Ukraine, you could see even upper class dolts have doubts about Macrons sanity.
RR on the other hand will never ever admit blacks are stupid. Never. Literally even if tortured.
Bruno said:
I didn’t vote for Macron.
You don’t seem to realize my back ground is the far right of the far right. It’s impossible to cut completely ties with where you come from.
a particularity that is shared with part of my far right family is that we are not racist in the strict meaning of the term : being disgusted by ethnic people and wanting them dead. I was shocked in Spain when some relatives wanted me to move in the movie theater because a USA military family sat near us and they said it was disgusting to seat near black people …
my father would do a toast saying “we have full confidence in the justice of our country” as a joke wich would make everyone in the assistance laughs because most had been prosecuted for their mercenary doings or opinions.
if he was alive, he would be helping all revisionists line Vincent Reynouard or Boris Le Lay.
Maybe Pumpkin is right about your being autistic because I have given you so many clues about my background and Welt Anschauung that it can’t come only about your intellectual limitations to think I am a Macron backer.
I agree to everything Mearsheimer is saying about Ukraine and I thing Israeli Jews [redacted by pp, 2024-03-18]. How could I ever be Macron compatible …
Your narrow mindedness may be linked to some mental illness …
it’s not your fault though and I still appreciate you for entertaining me.
Fraz said:
I didn’t like cubes. Don’t think I did that well. I agree completely with welcher actually. It expects you to infer the presence of cubes that aren’t visualized but it doesn’t seem like a necessary assumption if the cubes are rigidly attached. Then I realized this must be the case but lost valuable time. Later items are highly laborious and my mom kept interrupting my mental arithmetic. The painted thing is highly ambiguous in its premise, but makes sense once you “get it.”
in my opinion it has a low ceiling if you figure out what to do right away, and gradations are mainly due to counting or math errors. If you don’t grasp the premises, there could be huge damages on simple questions. I don’t think it offers a smooth gradation of abilities from low to high, in other words. I don’t think it would provide a smooth normal distribution of scores clustered around average.
illuminaticatblog said:
On wechsler block design subtest I score 125.
I got 2/17 on this test so then what I got might be 75 depending on how pumpkin norms it.
The Philosopher said:
If you look at the israeli tech industry its comically ‘jewish’. About 50% of the firms do software for hacking or software to stop hacking LOL. Most of these firms are spinoffs from the millitary.
the land flowing with milk and honey is actually mostly shitty for farming. and israel is very densely populated. said:
how much does the israeli economy depend on palestinian labor?
is it like the apartheid ZA economy in this way?
as deklerk said this exploitation of blacks’ labor is why his country fell.
eichmann lived in israel and learned hebrew. did he find that it had 2 banks for every 1 israeli?
my unuhstanning is that israel’s ag sector is very productive.
https://www.jpost.com/Jerusalem-Report/How-Israel-became-a-world-leader-in-agriculture-and-water-management-618767#:~:text=Israel%20records%20the%20highest%20cow-milk%20productivity%20in%20the,a%20mere%200.5%25%20loss%20compared%20to%2020%25%20globally.
The Philosopher said:
Its productive because the arab workers are basically paid nothing and have no rights.
Israel does have a genuine tech economy, even without the hacking software, but strangely its financial sector is not 30% of GDP or something like a tax haven or a place you expect where jews are the majority.
Someone should do a frank analysis of the israeli eco and how much of it is dependant on jewish donors from America and control of the US goverment. Is Israel actually self sufficient without donors and tribute from its American colony? It would be interesting to know if the high IQ gypsies can actually make a country work.
Lurker said:
“Shut it down” is a top career-choice for dual citizens.
veritas said:
guys like tommy from Goodfellas are bad for any organization.
if the mafia were filled with people like that you’d never’ve heard of it. it would never accomplish anything.
PLUS!
italians LOVE to argue!
The Philosopher said:
If you look at the Israeli budget about 8% of GDP is being spent on defense. You also have another 5-10% being spent on those Orthodox jews who are basically paid to do nothing except procreate.
You then have a situation where 25% of the population are arabs and not allowed to work in high level jobs or sensitive areas of the economy like media, government or the legal system.
This basically just doesn’t work from a long term perspective without generous donations, ‘loans’ and tribute from the occupied American government.
I think we’ll get to a stage where you will start to see jews forcing europeans to tribute Israel if Israel is permenantly at war directly with muslims. I can definitely see them making Germany contribute. Maybe UK and France.
Name said:
What’s your point?
The Philosopher said:
AFAIK Israel has basically very little tourism and manufacturing. No oil or gas. No mineral wealth. It also has very generous welfare state paid for by americans. University there is free I think. (except for arabs lol).
You also have to factor in the HBD element. If [redacted by pp, 2024-03-17], you can just imagine what kind of legal system had to evolve to deal with that. The legal and transaction costs as % of GDP must be double compared to a similarly advanced nation.
The real question is – is it actually advanced or being propped up?
The Philosopher said:
Puppy is prepared to believe RR has a 170 IQ as opposed to the pentagons UFO expert and an air force colonel claiming the US has been recovering alien aircraft for 100 years. Right.
pumpkinperson said:
No I believe that just as his IQ 65 or so on the SAT dramatically underestimated his IQ, his IQ 164 on General Knowledge dramatically overestimated his IQ. His true IQ is between these two extremes.
There’s a reason the WAIS has 11 subtests and not just one.
RaceRealist said:
Imagine believing that my “IQ” is in the 60s. As I said: You’re a dolt. I’m clearly “more intelligent” than you.
The Philosopher said:
Youre so stupid you don’t even beleive in intelligence as a concept.
just more sadliness. said:
Imagine believing that my “IQ” is in the 60s.
okay.
next!
sadlystein@sadlystein.com
The Philosopher said:
If Chris Langan said he didn’t believe in evolution or genetics or IQ tests or mental illness….basically it wouldn’t matter what score he got on an IQ test. People would seriously doubt the guy.
RaceRealist said:
You’re just ignorant on those topics that I talk about so you don’t know what to say. It’s OK to admit that.
The Philosopher said:
Chris Langan would burst out laughing at RR’s comments lol. Langan and RR are the extreme opposites of the intellectual spectrum…and therefore the political one.
pumpkinperson said:
You judge people too much based on whether their political opinions are TRUE. This shows low social IQ on your part because there are all kinds of social, moral and psychological pressures that bias our stated ad even real political views to the point where it’s actually a sign of high IQ to be wrong about HBD.
And Chris Langan has his own irrationality when it comes to claiming Trump won the 2020 election.
Obviously people are not objective when it comes to topics they’re psychologically invested in so it’s really incredibly stupid of you to constantly judge IQ and social IQ exclusively by those.
RaceRealist said:
Imagine believing that. His comments on Koko and the “30 point communication gap”, “bringing in gorillas” because they have higher IQs than Somalians is completely ridiculous. Why is that? He didn’t read the book The Education of Koko to see how her handlers said it’s “specious” to compared Koko to infants so it’s therefore specious to compare her to adults. But racists like you would love to think the comparison is possible. Too bad it isn’t.
Lurker said:
Way to miss the point though.
It’s horrible to invite others from countries where the average IQ, culturally-caused, “developmentally” caused, or genetically determined to be below mental retardation levels for our standards. Given there is no other reason to assume they are worthy of expending resources that could go to other more productive and less violent non-Westerners, why would you want them to come here?
RaceRealist said:
Lynn’s numbers were cherry-picked as Wicherts et al showed.
pumpkinperson said:
He cherry picked in an educated way. Lynn’s conclusions have seen been replicated in completely independent research:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36702784/
RaceRealist said:
He cherry-picked in a way that he excised samples that were high and kept ones that were look. Check Wichert’s funnel plot.
“His exclusion rule was applied only to samples that averaged relatively high IQs, but not to samples that averaged IQs near or below 70
Lurker said:
Like I said, there is no other reason to assume they are worth expending resources on. It’s one thing if there are low test scores but a very similar culture and technological achievements, indicating isolated poor test performance rather than complete cultural incompability, but there isn’t. We have no connection in the West to most of Africa besides them being ostensibly homo sapiens and sharing basic biology and the ability to use language.
RaceRealist said:
At the end of the day, what Langan said in that paragraph is outright false.
illuminaticatblog said:
Why is the 30 point gap wrong?
When working on a project, that gap size matters.
RaceRealist said:
It’s based on a misunderstanding.
The Philosopher said:
Somalians really are IQ 70 av. Test scores throughout the entire continent of africa are similar. We have 100 years of testing.
LOADED said:
the ones who have the best perceptions are the most intelligent. Anyone can tell you intelligence is a quality of perception and possibly vice versa.
People who don’t believe in intelligence are fucked up. Intelligence is there 4 all 2 see n hear.
What action displays and its judgments by other people details how intelligence is real!
Billy said:
Men and women have different brain structure. Claiming it’s unscientific to consider the lopsided effect of one battery over another is not understanding the phenomenon. You are contriving g-factor. The goal of these intelligence proxies is to determine the correlation of g-emergence for the population in question. If males tend to do better, with higher correlation, then it is a male bias; vice versa for females. I do not believe men and women are substantially unequal in g-factor. I would go so far as to claim that it makes no sense for them to be anything but equal, evolutionarily. And I suppose this can be modeled with the breeder’s equation. Does it actually make sense for sustained IQ, for men and women to be substantially unequal?
NoMunich1938again said:
…. since these hold nostalgic value from being tested as a child 🙂 haha, love it…..Question. Are the cubes big enough and readable ? (Wanna know if everything is ok, before I break the world record?:))
pumpkinperson said:
yes they are unless you have very impaired vision
noMunich1938again said:
I did. Another English reading test haha 🙂
"but hitler blar blar blar." --- retard said:
^^^joking or retarded^^^
the phony war should never’ve been declared.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War
HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE FIRST WORLD WAR?
IDIOT!
Rafael said:
some items aren’t drawn well, while others don’t have clear divisions between cubes. Test Needs improvement. 13/17. Could have scored 15+ if some drawings were clearer.
Name said:
RR, Dont you believe in intelligence? But it has explanatory power and can be used to make predictions.