In the below video HBD vlogger Edward Dutton explains the politics of autistic people.
He agrees with the stereotype that they are more likely to be libertarian. He says this is because they like systems (markets?) and lack empathy. I hope he means cognitive empathy, because unlike psychopaths, they don’t lack emotional empathy.
I would propose a third reason which is they fail to predict the degree to which corrupt people will exploit the lack of government regulation.
On the other hand Daniel Seligman was likely a libertarian (based on his criticism of David Wechsler’s grasp of economics) and he was anything but autistic. He was the most lucid written word communicator I’ve ever seen in the HBD-o-sphere and I highly recommend his book to newbies who want a crash course on the whole IQ debate.. On the other hand he was Jewish so may have had ethnic reasons for being libertarian.
Dutton also claims that autistics tend to be alt-right. If by alt-right he means the QAnon nutjobs, I would tend to agree, but the Steve Sailer alt-right is politically savvy.
wait why were there comments under my name when i was in a mental hospital for the last two weeks? hahah.
Autistic people’s politics resembles high IQ neurotypical people’s politic prefferences.
practicality matters. when you say all these generalizations they destroy the purposefulness of what you really want out of them!
the way i see things if you want people to believe you you have to reference things that also reflect the framework of their existence!
this all can be done if you feel the necessity of relating to people in an honest way.
That would make sense considering both are long-term thinkers and high in trust.
But the autists would get shafted by the greedy neurotypicals, while the intelligent and high in cognitive empathy people would be able to out maneuver or at least strike a balance with the average Machiavellian.
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1. Kodak Black
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5. Tay K
The biggest difference between them is exactly the lack of macchiavelians type even thought arrogant and pedantic seems abundant among autistic specially among aspies.
“I would propose a third reason which is they fail to predict the degree to which corrupt people will exploit the lack of government regulation”.
I believe you may be confused. I posit the government is much more corrupt than we the people.
The Philosopher said:
This person has autism.
We the greedy enterpreneurs… Actually, the problem of government is not government itself but the kind of morally idiots has been selected to be part of and predominates. Government is for a modern nation or complex society which the nucleus is for a eukariotic cell.
“we the people”
Like Santo said the gov is only as good as the people.
we the people = the “corrupt” idiots that created the gov.
but they understood this so made it federalized.
I am a constitutionalist. – the least way of making a gov corrupt.
“I posit the government is much more corrupt than we the people.”
And you’re 100% wrong. The government is just an extension of the people, as are the corporations. All neurotypicals have the capacity for greed.
Hence why communism reigns supreme, it’s the only political ideology that correctly identifies the issue and attempts to solve it. Tankies and libertarians are two sides of the same retarded coin. Both are bootlicking autists that pretend they aren’t.
midget needs to be banned for his hate speech against tankies. said:
sad. you need ESL lessons.
you obviously don’t unnuhstan what a tankie is.
“communism reigns supreme”
Marx would not say that at all.
He had totally different ideas from what is in the modern world today.
His idea was an agrarian technocracy.
Do you see any agrarian technocracy as the majority anywhere today?
“it’s the only political ideology that correctly identifies the issue and attempts to solve it.”
Like how? China? That’s just capitalism with a layer of feudalism at the top.
No such thing as a huge agrarian technocracy exists anywhere today.
The moon will become a socialist technocracy and Mars.
Like how CERN operates today.
I heard an interesting phrase:
“Communists diagnose correctly, but their prognosis is terrible”
Commie definition of “true communism”: Everything about society that is wrong is wrong. Everything about society that is good is good.
Communism has therefore never been tried because it has never worked, since by definition if tried then it would work.
(as it is defined as the system that works the best and exploits people the least that everyone is happy with).
A totally non hierarchical complex society is impossible. Complexity without any hierarchy is a chaos.
Schomsky is king of stupid tand or evil ankies.
“Marx would not say that at all. He had totally different ideas from what is in the modern world today. His idea was an agrarian technocracy. Do you see any agrarian technocracy as the majority anywhere today?”
By “reign supreme,” I mean it’s the best political ideology. I don’t mean it is widespread.
Ideally, technological primitivism is what I think humans would thrive in. Something like the Predator.
society already decided that is not where we will go.
Have you ever read the Unabomber Manifesto?
I read a quarter of it.
Says the intelligent machines will enslave humans.
like the matrix.
So basically, using technology for the things that make people happy rather than those that make them depressed or take away their rights? Using technology to become more free and improve one’s life rather than the opposite? And doing this by living something similar to the lifestyle humans evolved to thrive in rather than whatever the industrial revolution deems as the most efficient for its own progression?
Oh wait, animekitty just said that. Lol.
Yeah, basically. So, this type of society probably wouldn’t have something like Instagram, but it would have MRI machines.
I think the only type of political structure that could make this possible is communism, or at the very least, socialism.
MeLo when youre right youre absolutely fucking right! you understand society better than anyone ive ever had the pleasure of conversing with.
now some people who ive had misfortune of speaking with may have a better worldview but thats only because theyre psychopathic pricks who created these problems in the first place.
Vegan DHA said:
pp I think *this* time my link will interest you.
The only people who think rich people are more intelligent are those who have never spent time around rich people.
Personality and motivation are far more indicative of financial success after a certain point.
I did renovations and built homes for hundreds of rich white people. One thing I have noticed is that they think they are more intelligent than others (they aren’t) to the point that it can get really annoying when they think they’re “helping” me with a job they hired me for.
quick reminder that in real life i am constantly bullied because i am defenseless against people bigger than me but on the Internet i hold all influence and determine the outcomes of reality!
if it were not for my size i would be a god amongst men women children whatever.
i am a powerhouse. my intellect is too great for me to be fucked with. my limitations are only in the physical world but mentally i am SUPREME.
The majority of greatest leaders of human history had/have avg to short stature, including the most tyrannical like Napoleon, Putin and Hitler.
Loaded you’re a manlet?
LOADED gets bullied by the large black guys he meets even though he idolizes them and compliments on their great amateur rapping ability.
Yes being short leads to a necessity in using persuasiveness to interact with others but short people are often treated and thus react to things like children.
however if you can maintain a very mature and understanding perspective of other peoples motives when being short you have an outlet for your behaviors and mentalities.
short people are often less comfortable in this world because of the threat of harm so they feel more comfortable socially and thus take the opportunity to use this as a comfort whereas tall people are naturally more comfortable when alone.
i feel this way at least about things because ive had experiences closely related to this.
Shortness is relative.
Santo i believe you but i think being shorter than a certain minimum is unbearably difficult on peoples lives especially as a male.
if you want to maximize your fitness in comparison to others as a man you must reach certain standards of physical representations!
i try to be polite and understanding and give genuine feelings of warmth to everyone but dont expect me to go overboard on what i do.
theres a fine line between being a mentally strong individual and being a terrible person.
How short you are?
It can be very difficult but having a very sensitive personality as yours worsen the situation.
i am 5 feet 4 inches. im only sensitive because ive been treated so poorly. its a vicious cycle meaning being short makes me more sensitive which makes me feel shorter which makes me more sensitive which makes me feel shorter.
Santocool (psychologist doctor obvious) said:
There are shorter guys who are very self confident. Matter to work your self esteem?? Even thought i know it is not so easy and in your case shorter statute seems relevant to make you insecure about yourself.
i am sorry if im an asshole to you Santo i really like you i just think grandiose thoughts for yourself will lead you down the same path as Anime!
No one ever claimed the IQ-money correlation was high; it’s analogous to the correlation between height and fighting ability. On average height gives you an advantage in a fight but there are tons of short roid monsters who can obliterate tall bean-polls.
But we’d be extremely suspicious of IQ tests if there was no correlation between IQ and money because intelligence is your ability to adapt.
And even moderate correlations add up, so on average self-made billionaires will be 2 SD smarter than the average American man and World class fighters will be 2 SD taller (ON AVERAGE). Some world-class fighters are short, and some self-made billionaires are dumb but these are the exceptions that prove the rule.
As for the study finding the second richest were smarter then the richest; that’s probably because the richest they looked at were the top 1% and these are often the dumbest of the business world while the top 5% are often the smartest of the credential class.
Let’s not forget Ceci’s study where he showed that when IQ is equated and social class is not, social class is not, social class and family background is the determinant of life success. So the IQ-income relationship is due to family background and social class, not IQ. So the IQ-income relationship is illusory. He showed this with Terman’s data and then with an analysis of the project Talent dataset. You should read his book On Intelligence: A Bioecological Treatise on Intellectual Development.
Ceci’s just jealous cause professors don’t make that much.
Most of the effect of personality and IQ on life-time earnings arise late in life, during the prime working years. Therefore, estimates from samples with shorter durations underestimate the treatment effects.
It’s not bullshit—people in group A had fathers and grandfathers that were better educated than group C, even though they had equivalent IQs, they didn’t have equivalent social status. So this shows that the social status of the children’s parents had more of an influence on their life course than IQ. Nevermind what you see when you look at when each cohort was born.
I agree family class background is more important than IQ, but IQ still has an effect on income independent of it.
In fact, Ceci’s reanalysis of Terman and analysis of Project Talent refutes Herrnstein’s syllogism.
Thus, when IQ is equated and social class is not, it is the latter that seems to be deterministic of professional success.
Of course IQ is not going to make any difference when there’s no difference in IQ. Is Ceci stupid?
Schooling and family background explains the IQ-income relationship, not IQ and its related to social class.
Our results highlight the importance of personality and intelligence on our outcome variables. We find that personality traits similar to the Big Five personality traits are significant factors that help determine educational attainment and lifetime earnings. Even holding the level of education constant, measures of personality traits have significant effects on earnings. Similarly, IQ is rewarded in the labor market, independently of education. Most of the effect of personality and IQ on life-time earnings arise late in life, during the prime working years. Therefore, estimates from samples with shorter durations underestimate the treatment effects.
”No one ever claimed the IQ-money correlation was high”
No I just obsessed over a moderate correlation just like I do for brain size
”because intelligence is your ability to adapt.”
For the smartest human beings, intelligence is the ability to understand/know.
>IQ is equated and social class is not, social class is not, social class and family background is the determinant of life success.
When IQ is equated, as in when IQ is controlled for/kept as a constant? That would be a way to see how non-IQ aspects have an impact on income. But that isn’t the same as saying that IQ doesn’t play a role, it means other things also play a role.
If you understand how things work,
or understand how people work,
your intelligence can get you lots of money.
being smart is not IQ but being smart you can achieve IQ results easier.
I understand that if I had no learning disabilities I would make more money and how.
I understand how being smart makes you money because you can do things others can’t which is valuable to society.
What is meant by “when IQ is equated” is that depending on which test was used, the IQs ranged between 142-155, and after the first wave there was a 10 point decrease “due to measurement error”, while group B had life outcomes that were “exteremly mediocre.” Ceci also cited a study that when average and below average earners were compared, their birth cohort and family background, not IQ, explained their outcomes.
“Let’s not forget Ceci’s study where he showed that when IQ is equated
and social class is not, social class is not
, social class and family background is the determinant of life success”
Moment RR robotic indoctrination show up.
He is so clueless about this subject still doesn’t grasp it is an extraordinary claim of causality like every claim of causality. Correlations are way more trivial. It implies “all rich people should score higher in IQ test and all poor people should score lower”. It’s not social background exactly but what is partially to predominantly behind it, intelligence and its multiple facets being applied in different contexts and having different outcomes.
“Our” societies are PARTIALLY meritocratic and this explain the moderate correlation between intelligence not just by IQ tests and social class. People who are not capable to work in cognitively demanding professions tend to work in less cognitively demanding, less socially prestigious and not well paid jobs.
You believe in the myth of meritocracy. Sad.
Thanks for IQ + ideologically driven selective criteria for high education, all the pseudo intelectuals you quoted has been capable to produce their useless academic studies…
And i said P A R T I A L L Y…
… in education.
“You believe in the myth of meritocracy. Sad.”
You mean the myth of “merit” itself, which doesn’t exist in your cultural relativist worldview.
“I don’t believe in meritocracy”
“I was selected to study in academia because my high verbal IQ and my canine ideological conformity”
@RR so among below average earners IQ didn’t matter? Not too surprising since low complexity jobs have lower correlations with IQ. What these means is other correlates will become more important at that level so IQ won’t play as big of a role in these 2 ways.
I mean, the true correlation between IQ and job performance is probably around .2 -.3. Nevermind the theoretical and methodological issues with such reportings like the issue of supervisory ratings and halo bias, to name two.
And “average and below average earners” in the Terman study.
The correlation seems low because people who are too dumb to do a job don’t get hired in the first place unless there’s some aggressive affirmative action. By definition IQ can’t make the difference in job performance if people in the job don’t differ much in IQ. In addition, employers often suck at knowing which of their employees is the most productive and often don’t care because the company’s too big to fail.
But Hunter and Schmidt used shoddy methodologies to massage the correlation.
I agree that employers suck at knowing which employees are more productive, and Richardson and Norgate have a bit to say about that in terms of supervisory ratings and sales output.
And this from Armstrong (2011) is relevant:
“Grades vs. job performance: Grades at recent universities have a low relationship to long-term job performance (r = .05 for 6 or more years after graduation) despite the fact that cognitive skills are highly related to job performance (Roth et al. 1996). In addition, they found that this relationship between grades and job performance has been lower for the more recent studies.”
The Philosopher said:
IQ matters but as usual Puppy takes it to extremes and basically says you can rank order people’s bank account just with IQ data.
Please shut up.
being against some kind of meritocracy is just being a woman. said:
the argument against “meritocracy” per se, even when it really exists, is the problem of who defines merit? for example: job performance is often assessed SUBJECTIVELY.
BUT obviously this objection does NOT apply to things like professional sports…much.
the ideal is that the standard of performance is OBJECTIVE AND known ahead of time.
BUT again the selection of the OBJECTIVE standard can be SUBJECTIVE.
toby young’s father is famous for his book which was against a certain type of meritocracy.
mugabe is very PRO OBJECTIVE standards, BUT he is also very PRO SAFETY NET, social democracy/democratic socialism.
mugabe is very AGAINST concentration of power of ANY KIND.
"satanism/satanic/etc." are very useful terms to describe REALITY. said:
satanism = defining merit ex post facto
satanist = first let’s look at who’s rich and powerful and whatever…then let’s JUSTIFY their wealth and power by whatever is DIFFERENT about them.
@RR University grades have issues. They have been getting inflated in comparison to what they were, and the insinuation from your quote would agree “In addition, they found that this relationship between grades and job performance has been lower for the more recent studies”
Also… “despite the fact that cognitive skills are highly related to job performance (Roth et al. 1996).” Okay I guess you admit that now?
“They have been getting inflated in comparison to what they were, and the insinuation from your quote would agree “In addition, they found that this relationship between grades and job performance has been lower for the more recent studies””
The best way to see one’s job performance is… To see them in the roll they apply for. I’m Amy case, that’s basically what Richardson and Norgate argued against.
And in that paper he cited research showing that those with high grades did no better than people without high grades for a few different jobs.
all of you are neurotic af.
“The best way to see one’s job performance is… To see them in the roll they apply for.”
Of course, the best way to know something to to observe it directly. As directly as possible. But this doesn’t negate links with other concepts.
“And in that paper he cited research showing that those with high grades did no better than people without high grades for a few different jobs.”
The quotations you have shown support the notion that cognitive skills are linked to job performance and that the link between grades and job performance has been getting weaker over time, which lends itself as being agreeable to the whole notion of college grade inflation (and the declining utility of college grades as well).
“The quotations you have shown support the notion that cognitive skills are linked to job performance and that the link between grades and job performance has been getting weaker over time, which lends itself as being agreeable to the whole notion of college grade inflation (and the declining utility of college grades as well).”
Roth et al. 1996 showed a correlation of .16 between grades and job performance and then after “corrections” (the same kind of which Richardson and Norgate 2015 successfully argued are shoddy), showed it in the .3s. Nevermind the fact that “IQ” itself “poorly predicts academic success.”
@RR Grades are one thing and IQ another. Correlation between IQ and job performance varies on the complexity of the job. I’ve seen sources indicate something like 0.4 and 0.6 with the former being low complexity jobs and latter being high complexity jobs for IQ. Correlation between grades and IQ has been going down over time, so a small number between grades and job performance isn’t surprising, grades aren’t as meaningful anymore.
The linked paper shows strong motivated reasoning and frankly nothing new in comparison to what has been discussed from that side in the hereditary IQ debates long before the debate spread to GWAS. Same old stuff with a new extrapolation.
“Correlation between IQ and job performance varies on the complexity of the job. I’ve seen sources indicate something like 0.4 and 0.6 with the former being low complexity jobs and latter being high complexity jobs for IQ.”
Yea, that was explicitly refuted in Richardson and Norgate. Hunter and Schmidt used shoddy corrections to massage the correlation between IQ and job performance.
“The linked paper shows strong motivated reasoning and frankly nothing new in comparison to what has been discussed from that side in the hereditary IQ debates long before the debate spread to GWAS. Same old stuff with a new extrapolation.”
What’s the argument that they’re wrong? The “hereditary IQ debate” is clearly nonsense.
There is an often significant subjective factor there: social contacts and possible advantages throught it.
Ken Richardson’s refutations in the linked paper involve him citing himself a whole lot. He comments more so on IQ-education in that paper. In particular this book “Genes, Brains, and Human Potential: The Science and Ideology of Intelligence”. I am not going to spend 30+ dollars checking his claims there. Another common citation he makes is “Psychological Correlates of University Students’ Academic Performance:
A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis”. Ken uses this particular citation to claim that “Finally, there is considerable evidence that correlations may be attributable to non‐cognitive factors, such as self‐confidence, which again reflect social background”, however that doesn’t seem to be a nuanced take, and the paper actually says this: “Univariate analyses revealed that demographic and psychosocial contextual factors generated, at best, small correlations with GPA. Medium-sized correlations were observed for high school GPA, SAT, ACT, and A level scores. Three non-intellective constructs also showed medium-sized correlations with GPA: academic self-efficacy, grade goal, and effort regulation. A large correlation was observed for performance self-efficacy, which was the strongest correlate (of 50 measures) followed by high school GPA, ACT, and grade goal. ”
This means that most social factors that are proposed as alternatives to the Standardized tests/GPA/IQ-related stuff have a smaller impact, and only a few psychological the factors, all revolving around self-efficacy had a moderate (in three cases) to large impact (in one case). So him clinging on to that one thing also reflects his own bias, maybe he could have acknowledged the moderate correlations with the things he is attacking and also acknowledge that the correlations for most other social factors were low. Broadly, this guy seems to point out issues in accuracy and methodology which is nice but then uses it as a wrench to insert in his own social theories and avoids mentioning low correlates in those regards.
“Yea, that was explicitly refuted in Richardson and Norgate. Hunter and Schmidt used shoddy corrections to massage the correlation between IQ and job performance.” I have read that without the adjustments/corrections there still is some predictive power.
“What’s the argument that they’re wrong? The “hereditary IQ debate” is clearly nonsense.” You mean that IQ isn’t heritable? Based on what I have seen in that discussion I would consider that to be a more fringe position.
“however that doesn’t seem to be a nuanced take”
You should read the paper and not only the abstract. That actually, in my view, verifies his hypotheses that he made in his 2002 paper What IQ Tests Test.
“there is still some predictive power”
They show its in the .3s. I don’t call correlations “predictive.”
And yea, IQ isn’t heritable, the heritability of IQ is 0 on the basis of Bouchard’s 1990 study.
@RR Yes, I have read the paper, not just the abstract, correlation for all variables except for one of them (self-efficacy) were well below 0.5. The medium correlates were around 0.3 in that particular paper (this includes the other efficacy group, as well as GPA/SAT group) and psychosocial correlates were well below 0.3. The latter can’t be ignored.
“And yea, IQ isn’t heritable, the heritability of IQ is 0 on the basis of Bouchard’s 1990 study.”
You talking about this? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2218526/
Correlation of 0.7 for FSIQ in twins reared apart would imply a high heritability. For comparison the paper lists a correlation of 0.86 for height.
The Philosopher said:
Bruno, Anime, Ganzir…all libertarians due to…certain ways of thinking.
i have sacrificed too much in this world to see myself lose. i am the cornerstone of humanitys success and i have all the rights to all things good.
Is this your favorite rap album?:
stop interacting with me Lurker i dont find you funny or creative you remind me of a parallel to myself if i were conscientious and self contained.
you are nowhere the person you think you are you are. a lot of the stuff you say is shallow and you clearly dont have the capacity to understand the motives i have so stop trying you never will.
I am not a libertarian lol
The Philosopher said:
Yes you are. You have autism.
I think individual freedom is important but that doesn’t make me a libertarian
Pill is schizo so he over-infers mental states based on very loose associations. Because you said you were autistic and because one autistic person pill knew was libertarians, he mindlessly assumes all autists are libertarian.
Sounds like white racist logic
if over-inferring mental states is schizo is under-inferring mental states…..means being on the asd spectrum?
my brother is autistic but hates the alt-right
he is also gay and has a high pain threshold.
He is ESTJ.
I am very sensitive to cold things.
Not anything in the senses.
I have a very low pain threshold.
I am INTJ.
He likes to make things, I like to do maths and abstract things.
He lives in farm country I live in the suburbs.
He says I am impractical. I like to do things the right way.
He smokes weed because he says: It makes the voices go away.
I have ADD.
In the enneagram:
Mom is 9
Aunt is 4
Sister is 7
Brother is 2
Roommate is 6
I am 4w5
I took the moral foundations test.
youre living in denial about a lot of things. its not necessarily that you dont deserve the things you wish for its just that the way you want to go about accomplishing things is not fully compatible with the way things should be!
when i say this i think you should fry conforming more to society than accepting yourself as an individual who does not relate to others.
i have the same problem but in a totally different circumstance! you have to tell yourself that your problems will go away only during times when you feel reluctant to do them!
I know my problems better than you do, stop projecting and listen to what others say. Have some cognitive empathy.
If you can control what you say then also control what you mean. What do you mean by all this Loaded? Be on topic and say what it is you agree or disagree with my politics. I am mentioning things about me and my family regarding our personality. I do not think politics is black and white, left and right, it is based on personality and autonomy.
What is your politics based on Loaded? Your family, your history, your culture. Think in sociological terms and give us your thoughts.
what im saying Anime is youre a grandiose narcissist. i was trying to be nice and give you constructive criticism but youre an idiot and deserve to have people lash out at you.
it may be projection but it was applicable to you nonetheless. anyways your worth is less than mine Anime. the belief that youre actually doing anything productive is beyond stupid.
you are an immature loser tbh. if anyone fails to see this it must be because theyre living in delusion themselves.
i have never met someone as much in denial as you! you have failed in every way and yet you keep trying to put yourself on a pedestal.
this is not projection. this is actually true. youre in your mid 30s you havent accomplished anything worthwhile nor contributed to anyones lives in a meaningful way.
maybe i dont know much about you but its not hard to read into the whole scenario and say youre a failure Anime.
its harsh but its true.
if Pumpkin didnt like you so much youd probably be the most miserable person on this Earth surpassing even me no doubt.
remember this and correct your psuedointellectual ideals before its too late and someone gives you a lesson on life you so desperately need.
I may be a loser but in reality, you are the narcissist. Why attack people if you are so secure with yourself? Because you are not. You are an insecure gen Z type of person so you must attack others for no reason other than to make yourself feel good. Get a life. Touch grass. Don’t drink bleach or eat tide pods. Don’t be a sheep. If you need to go back to the hospital then do so because you are not helping your case. Your parents never taught you to be a mature adult so stop attacking others for your failure. Stop being angry at the world loaded. And leave me alone.
The title of the video in this article is incoherent – brains aren’t “gendered.” Implying that there are “male” and “female” brains implies there are two different KINDS of brain. Then I’m sure a hereditarian will claim there are racial brains, too.
”Then I’m sure a hereditarian will claim there are racial brains”
Straw man fallacy.
RR believes all “hereditarians” think every individual belonging to a given racial group has the same brain type. But it totally logic to believe that there is a specific intra-variation of this important set of traits in human populations, from macro to micro perspectives, for example, japanese people, because they are more likely to be introverted, having a possible avg brain more expressive of an introversion correlated patterns, and japanese from specific groups, like artists and engineers showing intergroup brain similarities (interestingly more likely to be similar with specific groups of any other macro racial or ethnic groups).
I actually believe in a metaphysical racial mind…
”Implying that there are “male” and “female” brains implies there are two different KINDS of brain.”
Look how clueless he is. There is a spectrum from the most “male-like” brains to the most “female-like” brains. It implies a larger variation between and within sex-populations, in which there is a more common brain type among women than among men and vice-versa.
yeah sure there are examples of how things dont work thats true but general trends show us that quite frequently the examples that take place here are actually grounded in logic.
assumptions are necessary for making leaps towards the next form of understanding.
RR and Santo have deconstructed things to their rudimentary level thus stripping them of their actual inherent worth.
When does a feature of a brain count as “male-typical” and how many of these features—if you can name any at all—would a brain have to have to count as a “male brain”? There are average sex differences, but that doesn’t license the claim that there are two kinds of brain. The differences between brains don’t mean that there are two kinds of brain. At the end of the day, brains aren’t gendered, people are, and people aren’t their brains.
Average sex differences in the brain do not license the claim that there are male or female brains—“maleness” and “femaleness” are properties of selves, not their brains, and the self can’t be reduced to the brain. Brains are intersexed, or basically a mosaic.
But Lise Eliot’s recent 2021 review shows there are few differences between sexes other than gross size and that they are monomorphic, not dimorphic.
rr's babymomma said:
Sadly there is. Female brains have more vertical connections (my theory or is it hypothesis) and more gray than white matter, while male brains have more front-to-back connections and more white than gray matter.
Although there are exceptions to this. But the above is what it is generally speaking.
“Average sex differences in the brain do not license the claim that there are male or female brains—“maleness” and “femaleness” are properties of selves, not their brains, and the self can’t be reduced to the brain. Brains are intersexed, or basically a mosaic.”
patrick byrne judaism said:
every woman has a mangina rr!
you need to deal with REALITY!
RR, I am not talking about maleness or femaleness. I am talking about male and female brains.
RR, stop to post your collection of copied sentences and interact with us.
Female brains have more side-to-side connections too.
Janet Helms has a new article out—Three Reasons why the Black-White Test-Score Achievement Gap is Mythology.
“In this chapter, the author uses SAT racial-group mean comparisons to illustrate how failure to address the effects of the disproportionately large numbers of White test takers relative to test takers of color has contributed to three statistical myths about Black test takers. The myths are (1) subtracting a Black mean score(s) from a White mean score(s) reveals the magnitude of the intellectual gap between the two groups, (2) the stability of the magnitude of the gap is attributable to Black test takers’ intellectual deficiencies, and (3) disparate racial-group sizes do not affect interpretations of test content. Based on statistical analyses refuting these myths, the author recommends that college admissions committees avoid using standardized test scores to evaluate applicants of color because of inherent statistical bias that favors White test takers and disfavors groups of color.”
Taken into account with Kidder and Rosner 2002, this is very suggestive.
rr's babymomma said:
is janet helms your new babymomma?
i respect all of you as intelligent people but aside from the obvious stupidity of a lot of you the commonality you all share in terms of the negativity on this blog revolves around trying to outsmart one another.
i have never seen any of you say something positive to each other or collaborate with one another unless it was to tear someone else down!
start learning to accept your flaws because that is what defines you as much of the talents or supreme abilities you may have!
Santocool (rr is a bibliographical reference man) said:
Because as Rosner and Cohin (2012) foun’d…
Because no response…
You take your endless quotations or PDF of your favorite sophists, you have in your email, to “argue”, half of time here, rather than argue with your very own words. A very old complain i have about you since 2016. And what this tend to mean? That you know or understand less of your own views and opinions than you think. This is a common thing for ideologically fanatic people. Orwell (1940?) wrote about this in very didactic way..
Took my kid to the pediatrician this week for his 2 months appointment. Doctor said he was “so strong” with his kicks and arns and “advanced for his age” he leaned over to her while he was on my arm and that they don’t usually do that until 6 months.
I almost shed man tears when she exclaimed how strong he was.
You should shed a tear; motor precocity is consistent with Rushton’s theory.
Do you have a quote?
Revised forms of Bayley’s Scales of Mental and Motor Development administered in 12 metropolitan areas of the United States to 1,409 representative infants aged 1-15 months showed black babies scored consistently above whites on the Motor Scale (Bayley, 1965). This difference was not limited to any one class of behavior, but included: coordination (arm and hand); muscular strength and tonus (holds head steady, balances head when carried, sits alone steadily, and stands alone); and locomotion (turns from side to back, raises self to sitting, makes stepping movements, walks with help, and walks alone).
Similar results have been found for children up to about age 3 elsewhere in the United States, in Jamaica, and in sub-Saharan Africa (Curti, Marshall, Steggerda, & Henderson, 1935; Knobloch & Pasamanik, 1953; Williams & Scott, 1953; Walters, 1967). In a review critical of the literature Warren (1972) nonetheless reported evidence for African motor precocity in 10 out of 12 studies. For example, Geber (1958:186) had examined 308 children in Uganda and reported an “all-round advance of development over European standards which was greater the younger the child.” Freedman (1974, 1979) found similar results in studies of newboms in Nigeria using the Cambridge Neonatal Scales (Brazelton & Freedman, 1971).
Mongoloid children are motorically delayed relative to Caucasoids. In a series of studies carried out on second- through fifth-generation Chinese-Americans in San Francisco, on third- and fourth-generation Japanese-Americans in Hawaii, and on Navajo Amerindians in New Mexico and Arizona, consistent differences were found between these groups and second- to fourth-generation European-Americans using the Cambridge Neonatal Scales (Freedman, 1974, 1979; Freedman & Freedman, 1969). One measure involved pressing the baby’s nose with a cloth, forcing it to breathe with its mouth. Whereas the average Chinese baby fails to exhibit a coordinated “defense reaction,” most Caucasian babies turn away or swipe at the cloth with the hands, a response reported in Western pediatric textbooks as the normal one.
On other measures including “automatic walk,” “head turning,” and “walking alone,” Mongoloid children are more delayed than Caucasoid children. Mongoloid samples, including the Navajo Amerindians, typically do not walk until 13 months, compared to the Caucasian 12 months and Negro 11 months (Freedman, 1979). In a standardization of the Denver Developmental Screening Test in Japan, Ueda (1978) found slower rates of motoric maturation in Japanese as compared with Caucasoid norms derived from the United States, with tests made from birth to 2 months in coordination and head lifting, from 3 to 5 months in muscular strength and rolling over, at 6 to 13 months in locomotion, and at 15 to 20 months in removing garments.
What inferences do you draw from this? What do you know about the development of motor ability? This review is much more in depth than Rushton’s, though it doesn’t attempt to show whether or not the claims are true or false, it shows that the questions posed are political in nature.
If you’re saying that this is evidence for r/K theory, spare me. Rushton’s theory is long-refuted.
“Across countries, median ages of attainment were equivalent for all play milestones, 20 (77%) of 26 expressive language milestones, ten (67%) of 15 receptive language milestones, nine (82%) of 11 fine motor milestones, 14 (88%) of 16 gross motor milestones, and eight (73%) of 11 relating milestones. However, across the four countries the median age of attainment was equivalent for only two (22%) of nine milestones in the self-help domain.”
What will it take for you to accept that Rushton’s theory has been refuted?
What will it take for you to accept that Rushton’s theory has been refuted?
A pre-registered peer reviewed published study where a representative sample of 1000 black Americans and 1000 white Americans did not differ to a statistically significant degree in MRI brain size before or after body size adjustments. Brain size is key because a bigger brain generally requires a delayed childhood, longer life history, slower maturation rate, more parental care, fewer offspring etc.
What will it take to convince you Rushton was right?
So nothing will convince you since the races have different brain sizes? I don’t reject that claim, I reject Rushton’s overall theoretical foundation for his beliefs. For me to believe that Rushton was right, he needed to articulate the theory correctly ant not cherry-pick, as he was accused of over his career.
No, the study I described would convince me there are no BW brain size differences, and by extension, no K differences.
You cherry pick also. You accept the studies accepting no racial differences in testosterone & reject the ones that do.
There are B-W brain differences. This doesn’t mean Differential K theory is true. Rushton’s theory is way more than brain size differences. And of course, Rushton was shown to be wrong and his theory falsified both theoretically and empirically.
I think I have a pretty good idea of testosterone, what it does in the body, and how it is acutely heightened. I reject the studies’ conclusions because of the sample sizes, methodology, and theory involved with it. My rejection the race and T theory is due to what I know about T and its effects on the body. My rejection isn’t “cherry-picking” at all.
But brain size is a huge part of it, because if you ask any biologist why humans have a slow life history & require so much parental care, they’ll tell you it’s because we have these huge brains that need decades to be nurtured. And all Rushton is saying is that Mongoloids are the most extreme example of that trend and blacks the least.
But I do agree he cherry picked but so did you because you rejected studies post-hoc. You didn’t go in blind saying I’ll reject any study that doesn’t meet criteria X and Y, you only insisted on certain sample sizes and methods AFTER you saw the results.
“Brain size is a huge part of it”
There are what, 70 variables in Rushton’s “simple model”? Critics showed 35 years ago that he was wrong and then Peregrine et al showed he was wrong again in 2003. So I don’t see your point here. Rushton’s r/K is more than brain size.
I used to hold the belief that Rushton and others were right, and now I don’t since I have a better understanding of the issues. The issues with the most-cited studies by Rushton and others—Ross et al specifically—are huge, nevermind reasons for acute testosterone increases. And as I’ve argued, even IF the relationship was as Rushton and others described it, that STILL wouldn’t be evidence for T increasing aggression and PCa rates, since T doesn’t increase aggression and T doesn’t increase PCa.
"flushton was a canadian. so he can't be wrong. unless he's jordan peterson." --- peepee said:
not only that but the age of puberty is later in black africans. perhaps for nutritional reasons. idk.
What will it take for you to accept that Rushton’s theory has been refuted?
nothing will do it. peepee is attached to flushtonism for emotional reasons.
peepee believes many contradictory things simultaneously. doublethink. said:
peepee does believe flushton was wrong about genetic similarity theory. she will deny this even though she said it a few days ago. sad.
Santocool (I hate jews but i'm Chomsky fan and ukrainians hater = retarded) said:
Behaviorally and sexually speaking, back teenagers on avg tend to behave like young adults.
Don’t confuse sexual and behavioral maturity with intellectual maturity. “Gifted” people mature early OR have more time to develop their more complex brains but they tend to be behaviorally delayed.
People who are “less smart” spend less time developing their comparatively simpler brains.
Of course there are lot of variations but in terms of avg, Rushton was right. He also take seems evidence from avg racial differences in maturation among toddlers.
Santocool (sophists are not real philosophers) said:
Most of RR “studies” are based on cherry picking fallacy.
And all of them just reflect RR mindset and his colleagues. And the fact (?) had a black or mixed child is revealing. Jayman is way more honest than RR less when they pay tribute to his jewish masters (of course).
“Most of RR “studies” are based on cherry picking fallacy.”
Which ones? Give examples. Rushton was the one who cherry-picked studies that agreed with his beliefs and included them in his “matrix” as many of his detractors have noted. I can’t take you seriously if you believe that Rushton didn’t cherry-pick. Read the Peregrine, Ember, and Ember paper I cited above. It seems that many PP readers are averse to reading and providing citations—why?
“the fact (?) had a black or mixed child is revealing.”
It’s not “revealing” about anything. I rejected all of this years ago. Nevermind the appeal to motive. The fact that you bring this up is revealing. I has a baby, that’s what matters. Does anyone here have a baby?
“Jayman is way more honest than RR”
This is a lie.
He believes in “laws of behavioral genetics” – https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2023/01/27/on-the-so-called-laws-of-behavioral-genetics/
He believes that diet and exercise don’t work and that we shouldn’t do it – https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/08/05/diet-and-exercise-dont-do-it-part-ii/
He believes that a “fair number of people” respond little and even negatively to exercise – https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2018/10/15/on-individual-variation-in-response-to-exercise/
If you think that JayMan is more honest than me, then you’re very delusional.
And perhaps the most dangerous part, he believes the result of the Look AHEAD study shows that diet and exercise don’t work to help put diabetes into remission. Talk about ideologue…
So yea Santo, bring receipts for your claims or stop talking. Explained what cherry picking is and then show how I’m guilty of it.
Black girls experience an earlier menarche than white girls. Blacks girls are more likely to be obese, so when fat mass increases leptin stores are released and this, it is theorized, permits earlier menarche.
Being wrong or sloppy is not necessarily the same as being dishonest. You are both.
“He is not because he believes in laws of behavioral genetics”
Dude… You and your jewish sophists don’t have a clue what you are talking about or at least they do but they are serving a political and maybe ETHNIC agenda. You are just a propagandist.
SHEER DISHONESTY and then EVIL. You don’t care about people but only about yourselves.
Why do you ask people to explain to you something you probably know, at least in theory, creepy????
Cherry Picking fallacy is the dishonesty to support only evidence that corroborate to your claims and despise those who don’t…..
You and your mostly jewish colleagues do it all the time.
Example: there are a constant, stubborn, cross cultural behavioral patterns found of human macro racial groups like blacks with subsaharian african descent and higher criminality rates
I’m talking about the rule and not the exceptions.
But you vermin and your criminal sophists pretend these patterns don’t exist or they are only caused by social factors when we have very different contexts which don’t support this claim of sociological primacy to explain cross cultural behavioral findings.
Most people here are immune to your bullshit. I already studied in humanities and most of studies there is basically wordgames and extremely ideological conformity.
I wont spend and waste my time reading papers of dishonest and zombified arrogant people but i thought you could be capable to explain but NOT you barrely understand.
Any of your texts are good example of cherry picking and other fallacies lol
In all of them you supress any evidence that contradict your beliefs. You create an umbalanced narrative of “hereditarians are wrong about everything and my team is right about everything”.
Because Rushton works also have some fallacies don’t mean he was wrong about EVERYTHING as you and your pseudo intelectual mafia think…
The same way i don’t think you cannot be right about at least something. It require maturity any of you have.
“You are both”
How did you learn how to mind-read? How do you know what changed my views?
“You and your jewish sopuisrs don’t have a clue what you are talking about.”
So explain, with examples, that I “don’t have a clue of what I’m talking about.”
“constant, stubborn cross cultural behavioral patters … like with subsaharian African descent and higher criminality rates”
Cernovsky and Littman 2019 showed that Rushton had selectively reported data that didn’t fit his theory (cherry-picking) and he showed that the relationship wasn’t in actuality how Rushton described it (and a priori believed it to be). Cernovsky also showed selective reporting of data (cherry-picking) with Lynn too.
Click to access Interpol-Crime-Statistics-and-Rushtons-Racial-Dogma.pdf
Maturity none of you have.
I believe in Rushton works some years ago and today i know or i think he was not totally right. Comparing populations in different stages of demographic transition was a good example of slopiness in his works. I accept when i think i’m wrong. You never but not because you are totally right in your views.. as you think.
BLM is totally based on cherry picking fallacy, enphasising blacks as a disproportional victims of urban violence and totally overlooking them as a disproportional responsible for urban violence. This is purê evil and has nothing to do with social justice, jewstice, maybe.
but sadly... said:
the brain size theory means europeans > chinapipo.
that one map of cranial capacity is FALSE.
i have posted the links to the post mortum studies proving this many times but peepee ignores them. that map overestimates chinapipo’s brains and underestimates europeans brains, especially TALL europeans…not albanians obviously…they do have tiny brains.
…because peepee’s flushtonism is emotional not rational.
…because female brain it’s pointless to argue with peepee.
Europeans might have bigger brains than East Asians but the studies where both races are DIRECTLY compared using the SAME method show East Asians have bigger brains, ESPECIALLY after body-size adjustments.
Your lies and delusion only works for you and for people like you. Because you are binnary thinker having a mixed race baby forced you to believe in RADICAL hypothesis of racial egalitarianism.
austin slater said:
A lot of the criticism of Rushton is itself the product of fallacies. One of them is the fallacy fallacy (as Santo mentioned).
I don’t remember the name of the other one, but it involves rejecting a general correlation or trend on the basis of individual exceptions. Dutton rejecting Rushton’s r/K selection theory because NE Asian females are less likely than white women to perform oral sex on their partners is a great example of this.
This fallacy is also very common among philosemites. “Kevin MacDonald is wrong because examples of Jewish conservatism exist”.
Dutton rejecting Rushton’s r/K selection theory because NE Asian females are less likely than white women to perform oral sex on their partners is a great example of this.
Not only that but Dutton’s argument didn’t even make sense. I had trouble taking him seriously after that
Name redacted by pp, Feb 11, 2023 said:
Black girls experience an earlier menarche than white girls.
NOT in africa! you fucking albanian FRAUD!
can you READ?
you can’t even grok when i’m MAKING FUN OF flushton.
the point is this shit varies by time and geography…NOT just by my genes n sheeeit yo! as gayman would say. pretty sure his wife is LITERALLY a witch BTW. and i say that as wyboy who loves the witch look.
this is why IQ is a thing…because low IQ people can do a cargo cult imitation of high IQ <<<— RR
Santocool (It's magic!) said:
”How did you learn how to mind-read? How do you know what changed my views?”
theory of mind??
”Cernovsky and Littman 2019”
you are a clown troll.
PP has some pragmatic reason for keeping you here.
”Rushton had selectively reported data that didn’t fit his theory (cherry-picking)”
Is not the opposite??
Most of proeminent hbds are philojewishsemite ( many non jewish middle easterners are semite too). Most of them, include Jayman, believe or seems to believe that because majority of iliberals are white gentiles or non jewish so the jewish influence is mostly secondary or peripheral. They supposedly don’t know how a complex and then a hierarchical system works in which what’s matter, in this case, is not the masses like RR but those who are in really relevant places like politics and media. The disproportion of jewish people in these places are insane. It can’t be supported by statistics alone or just by correlates like IQ and even by psychological traits like high functioning anti social personality disorder. This fallacy is somewhat related to your comment maybe by a different perspective.
“A lot of the criticism of Rushton is itself the product of fallacies”
“Not only that but Dutton’s argument didn’t even make sense”
Do you have a page number?
“Because you are binnary thinker having a mixed race baby forced you to believe in RADICAL hypothesis of racial egalitarianism.”
What is egalitarianism? Nice appeal to motive there. I changed my views long before I had a baby.
“”Cernovsky and Littman 2019”
you are a clown troll.”
“the point is this shit varies by time and geography”
Thanks I didn’t know that. Obviously what I said is for American black girls.
Do you have a page number?
I didn’t see Dutton say this in a book but rather a youtube video.
Which video? What did he say? I read his book when it came out but I don’t have it on me.
I don’t recall which video but probably this one:
Your anti racist trophy was an outcome of a long term self brainswashing.
Fuck off, piece of shit. My baby isn’t a “trophy.”
They always are. In your case is a concrete confirmation of your deep and radical egalitarian beliefs.
The Philosopher said:
LOL RR will cherish this baby as proof to the world (and the jews) that he isn’t a racist.
“They always are. In your case is a concrete confirmation of your deep and radical egalitarian beliefs.”
“LOL RR will cherish this baby as proof to the world (and the jews) that he isn’t a racist.”
More mind-reading. Again, fuck off, pieces of shit. I cherish my son because he’s my first born.
There are no critical differences between different races!!!
Someone should tell that to the glowing ball of hydrogen and helium in the sky… it seems to not have gotten that message.
“you can’t even grok when i’m MAKING FUN OF flushton.”
Grok used incorrectly here. “Can’t even grok” makes no sense because grokking means to understand something deeply.
I’ve never once in my life said that “race isn’t real.”
You’ve said that physical brains are a necessary condition for mind but then said the mental was irreducible to the physical and rocks don’t have minds because they are simply physical objects with no intentionality and brains are also physical objects with no intentionality.
“Race is real but human biological diversity is not real”
About Jayman views of diet, workout and weight, how to explain people who eat a lot or lot of junk food and never fat???
I dont think diet and exercises are generally useless but specifically useful.
There are different phenotypical scenarios where hormones and genes also have a role not just habits. Different scenarios = different strategies.
But i always think they have a more important role than extrinsic factors. My heterodoxical argument in favor of biological determinism.
I’ve never once in my life said that “race isn’t real.”_
“What is egalitarianism?”
Sophistic tactic to confuse and extend debates often to obscure really relevant questions.
“Nice appeal to motive there”
Do you dont have a theory of mind??
Do you think free will exist??
Do you think your views has not been based on previous conditioning like personality traits and personal experiences?? Or it’s only happens to your “heresytarian” opponents??
Thesis??? Or hypothesis??
And he used the example of hispanic right in the beggining.
“Race is a social construct because italians were not considered whites in Murrica”
I called it”the cicle of stupidity”
Generally it works in this way:
Self declared conservatives give a meaning to very relevant concepts like truth. But they conceptualize from what they think is the truth and not seeking for a more objective and impartial meaning. Then many centuries further, self declared progressivists starts to problematize the socially and academically dominant concept of truth, imposed by self conservatives, and basically conclude that this concept is not objective and so the truth. They problematize the concept of truth from the conservative concept and not analysing the truth for itself.
But we need a synthesis. Conservative thesis of truth is too subjective. Progressivist antithesis of truth is too relativistic.
Typically, philolsophy has been an exercise of overthinking in a pedantic way.
Ethnicity is Also and predominantly a social construct like not considering native belgians, northern french and westphalians basically the same subracial group because their cultural differences. But race is mostly a biological construct.
The Philosopher said:
Lurker it might help you to know a bit of background on our village idiot RR. He started a blog to talk about HBD and called himself Race Realist and then after a few years started banging blacks and all of a sudden changes his entire worldview. Now we’re stuck with a fucking troll in the comment section that barely believes the stupid shit he says.
All RR texts are very difficult to understand. Maybe it is deliberate…
” I never said race doesnt exist”
“Why Race is a social construct… of a biological reality” (???)
He mean “race IS ONLY a social construct”
He believe biology is just a nose type because supposedly our brains and nervous system are mere decoration.
Clear, understandable and honest wiriting seems a fundamental ability rr lost after university. Even in a single and simple sentence like that he complicate what he mean.
RR and his colleagues mistaken ethnicity with race all the time.
Dumb and or dishonest, depending the person…
“I’ve never once in my life said that “race isn’t real.”_
I’ve never once made the claim that race isn’t real.
““What is egalitarianism?”
Sophistic tactic to confuse and extend debates often to obscure really relevant questions.”
“” I never said race doesnt exist”
“Why Race is a social construct… of a biological reality” (???)
He mean “race IS ONLY a social construct””
No, that’s not what I mean. And to state that X is a social construct doesn’t mean that X is not real.
“then after a few years started banging blacks and all of a sudden changes his entire worldview”
This is hilarious because you’re wrong. I was dating a Sicilian girl when I changed my views, dumbfuck.
RR doesn’t have views. He is a just a set of citations that refutes anything he deems false on a hyper-literal reading.
He already admitted he believes reality as-it-is is fundamentally unknowable, and he thinks our subjective views have no correspondence to physical reality, meaning he has a dualistic view where subjective and our understanding of the world is permanently separated from objectivity. In other words, in practice, he is a post-modernist, social constructivist, and nihilist who simply plays games with words when he argues online (ANALytical philosophy as Mug-o-urine mentions).
“This is hilarious because you’re wrong. I was dating a Sicilian girl when I changed my views, dumbfuck.”
Her Sicilian-ness was just a social construct. She was actually African, as all homo sapiens are.
Maybe she cheated or was stupid and that made you rethink your views? Or maybe you just like self-flagellation?
“No, that’s not what I mean. And to state that X is a social construct doesn’t mean that X is not real.”
If it’s only a social construct… that means there is no reality to race besides human prejudice. Your apriori argument that intelligence differences do not exist, and that behavior cannot be inherited, and all your empirical arguments that lifespans, testosterone, physical ability, etc. are all developmentally determined rather than genetics determining anything, implies that you only believe races differ in superficial features.
Why not admit that?
You concluded sicilians and african blacks are the same lol
Race is not just physical traits. Even ethnicity isnt too, see ashkenazi jews. Calling race a social construct is exactly the same as calling it an imaginary or fabricated reality but not a more natural reality. Just like stating that rich and poor exist or they are real but only within the realm of human imagination. That’s correct for this case. But statistical behavioral differences among human groups including racial groups dont exist only or exclusively as a social construct. Avg “black” or “irish” behaviors are not only results of cultural or social conditioning.
“RR doesn’t have views.”
Sure I have views. I’m sure you know them.
I admit that we can’t know everything.
“Her Sicilian-ness was just a social construct. She was actually African, as all homo sapiens are.
Maybe she cheated or was stupid and that made you rethink your views? Or maybe you just like self-flagellation?”
Wrong. “Maybe this maybe that”.
“If it’s only a social construct… that means there is no reality to race besides human prejudice. Your apriori argument that intelligence differences do not exist, and that behavior cannot be inherited, and all your empirical arguments that lifespans, testosterone, physical ability, etc. are all developmentally determined rather than genetics determining anything, implies that you only believe races differ in superficial features.
Why not admit that?”
I’ve said that many times. And the claim is” Race is a social construct of a biological reality”—meaning that for example K=5 cluster studies show how the biological maps to the social.
“Calling race a social construct is exactly the same as calling it an imaginary or fabricated reality but not a more natural reality”
Dumb, social constructivists are realists, not antirealists, about race. Antirealism about race is a specific set of claims that I don’t hold. I’m a pluralist about race.
“Sure I have views. I’m sure you know them.
I admit that we can’t know everything.”
Yes you have views… they are a set citations that lead to an incoherent theory of reality.
“Wrong. “Maybe this maybe that”.”
Because you 180’d on your views and now they are ridiculous. It seems like it stemmed from a personal thing. But it’s not something I particularly care about.
“Race is a social construct of a biological reality”
If melanin affects how easily you can get skin cancer or absorb vitamin D it is not a social construct with no meaningful objective differences. Everything can follow from that simple fact.
“Yes you have views… they are a set citations that lead to an incoherent theory of reality.”
Quote me saying something that leads to incoherence. Actual quotes from me.
“Because you 180’d on your views and now they are ridiculous. It seems like it stemmed from a personal thing. But it’s not something I particularly care about.”
It’s not a personal thing that made me change my views, keep assuming though Santo.
“If melanin affects how easily you can get skin cancer or absorb vitamin D it is not a social construct with no meaningful objective differences. Everything can follow from that simple fact.”
I have never denied this and I’m well read on the issue. That’s part of the “physical” part. What do you think social constructivists about race believe? Can you back it with references?
Again, it’s clear from your arguments you have no reason why anything mental, including one’s beliefs, thoughts, or words even apply to reality, because you deny any correspondence between mind and the physical world. That’s incoherent because it means we can never arrive at a right answer and everything we are saying is basically gibberish.
Once you start realizing that thoughts correspond to the physical world and objective facts, you can actually ascertain whether certain minds are better at grasping/navigating reality than others.
“It’s not a personal thing that made me change my views, keep assuming though Santo.”
It’s just easier to say you’re a race cuck than dismantle 1000 of your blog posts, since you always want people to “quote” or “cite” instead of actually responding to what they say.
Examine your apriori beliefs, because they are wrong.
Intentional states are propositional attitudes and language matters since the contents of intentional states are propositions.
Where are the quotes?
“It’s just easier to say you’re a race cuck than dismantle 1000 of your blog posts, since you always want people to “quote” or “cite” instead of actually responding to what they say.”
“rAcE cUcK” sure thing bro. Where are the quotes? You’re making specific claims, so back them.
You fag, what part of mathematics, geometry, and any other component of a physical measurement being also a mental property/subjective property do you not understand?
even the french know CRT = racism. but rr doesn't. said:
rr still doesn’t know that “equity”, “social justice”, and “CRT” = racism.
or rr thinks discrimination on the basis of race is fine as long as whites are the ones who lose.
do not respond to this peepee before you read the entire wiki on neoliberalism and identiy politrics and then apologize. said:
rr also doesn’t know that all of these things are top down. they are used to distract the 99% from stagnant wages and the wreckage of neoliberalism. the US has NO left. even bernie sold out.
at least trump told the people he loved them while he stabbed them in the back. the democrats don’t even do that. — noam chomsky
“equity”, “social justice”, “drag queen story hour”, and “CRT” = satanism.
immigrants like peepee and melo are used to divide and conquer the 99%. because they’ll vote for democrats, not because the democrats will help them, but because they hate wypipo.
do women have minds? said:
rr thinks it’s fine that the NBA is 80% black but he’s mad MLB is only 9% black. he thinks it’s fine that the NFL is 75% black but he’s mad that less than 75% of the coaches are black and none of them are lesbians.
the explosion in people claiming to be LGBT and not-cis PROVES a large fraction of people can be brainwashed into doing anything.
these people have female brains.
Mugabe has been deeply brainwashed twice but seems most of his thoughts are constelation of indoctrination processes not just about two subjects. Every ideological reference he use or approach is in characteristically rigid way, like an autist taking everything other people say or write in very literal way. Seems he cant has a freedom to think for himself, more flexibly. And boy his contradictions are big just like his IQ. He is supposedly pro white but ‘suddenly’ became pro Russia and then anti ukrainian people. He literally doesnt care a shit about thousand of ukrainian men, women, child, elderly and animals who has been exterminated by drunken russian soldiers as long as the EVUL of lgbtpqiapxxxrr666 is not destroying lives in little ruskya.
To someone starts to feel attraction to the same sex being previously heterossexual or otherwise this person must have something bissexual inclination even thought teenage years are the years of experimentation too. People who study sexuality know this kind of cross sexual experiments are relatively common during the first decades of life and yes living in a society where there reduced levels (not nonexistent) of homophobia, helps. Progressivism ideally is all about individual choices based on what individual is or his personal (or biological) scope of possibilities. Traditional conservativism is all about homo geneizing humans as if we are not individually complex or prone to build our own personal identity.
“Claiming to be lgbt and not cis”
No cis= trans. l g b = often “cis”
I learn trans and transgender are not the same thing
Trans people are people who since early years feel significant identitarian attraction to the opoosite sex.
Trans Gender, well, many them are a “variety” of schyzotypal. But maybe other similar statistical proportion of them are people who specially during their teenage years or even when adults start to identify in more sexually ambiguous way.
Actually the schizos who invent ridiculous identities are threatening real trans not being treat seriously. It possible to speculate if some or many of self identified as transgender are really being partially brainwashed BUT not brainwashing happens withouth any previous intrinsic and specific vulnerability.
Mugabe other brainwashing is about covid-19.
He think “anything dems defend, whatever what, i wll be against because i’m autist”
“we dont know everything”
He meant ” we my team dont know everything but we are sure we know mostofthing and heresytarians are totally wrong”
He also meant “our views are based on science look at what Rotten and Spank (2019) are stating??” “Only myour views about sociology, philolsophy and that little shit called by hology are sciency-based that’s why i always use academic references. Even Harvard and Princeton are against scientific Raycism”.
Moron, what do you not understand about specified measured objects, objects of measurement and measurement units?
“Moron, what do you not understand about specified measured objects, objects of measurement and measurement units?”
They’re all defined by subjective properties. In fact, there’s no other way to define anything. And all “objective” distances are simply relative to other subjectively ascertained measurements.
What other question do you have while you’re on the cuck chair for your Jewish and liberal masters?
i'm pretty sure santo can't speak portuguese either. he lives in some japanese ware criminal ghetto. said:
i’m starting to think santo is the descendant of japanese war criminals who escaped to brazil just like so many german war criminals. he is a “lost aryan”. or he thinks he is.
what mugabe meant: the explosion in people claiming to be LGBT and (understood: the explosion in people claiming to be) not-cis.
what santo thinks he meant: the explosion in people claiming to be (LGBT and not-cis).
specifically mugabe was referring to the bill maher clip he posted and this article on unz: https://www.unz.com/jtaylor/women-are-the-new-thought-police/.
The respondents were 61 percent women and 39 percent men, 85 percent white and 15 percent non-white. No fewer than 30 percent of the women said they were non-heterosexual, and 13 percent said they were non-cisgender, meaning the sex on their birth certificates was wrong. Seventeen percent of the men said they were non-heterosexual, and 9 percent were non-cis.
the only mentality i believe in.
"he speant the rest of his life experimenting with heterosexuality." --- Esquire on JFK's school days said:
of course 30% LGB (i forgot the T could be taken for “not cis”) vs 17%…that more women than men say that is true…
but what’s actually happened is some people have been conditioned, brainwashed into thinking saying you’re straight is like saying you’re anti gay. which is stupid. but i really doubt the frequency of homosexual BEHAVIOR has changed nearly as much as self-identified orientation.
it’s like mallory. he was burning with desire to fuck strachey (in the ass) or vice versa. idk. then he did it and thought, “uhhhh. i never wanna do that again.”
Sad, you don’t understand what they are.
the tragedy of northern urban blacks is...all the jobs were shipped to china or mexico...NOT shitty police! said:
no identity group cares (or should) what other such groups THINK of them…
they just want good jobs, good schools, good healthcare, etc..
everyone is the SAME in this respect.
GOP vs DEM, labor vs torry, liberal party vs conservative party…
it’s KABUKI THEATER…PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING…
saint of blackness, even though his dad was white, bob marley worked in a car factory in michigan.
when MLK started talking about poor people in general and not just black people…
he was killed…
and it was blamed on a poor white man.
“Sad, you don’t understand what they are.”
Measure a stick. You use your observations (subjective). You compare them to other observations (relative, and subjective). All the properties, including comparison itself, are abstract and graspable by the mind. (That is what a property is in the first place.)
I’ve asked you a million times to define any physical measurement in terms that didn’t rely on subjective mental observations, and abstract properties like mathematics, physics, geometry, etc. that are all nonphysical and graspable by the mind.
Can you do it?
Do it and win your Nobel Prize if you care so much about the truth. Shove it up the ass of every modern philosopher.
physical measurements are relative. all measurements are irrational in mathematics since you can never accurately define anything to its precise amount.
i really cant add anything else to this argument because its uninterpretable. that is a form of objectivity that certain things that make sense to me will not make the same sense to another person.
nothing is relatable to others. we cant accurately judge anything to be precisely what others tell us it is!
“i’m starting to think santo is the descendant of japanese war criminals who escaped to brazil just like so many german war criminals. he is a “lost aryan”. or he thinks he is.”
Only subhuman criminals think themselves as “aryan” or others as “non aryan”.
He still believe in my old lie, so naive.
“what mugabe meant: the explosion in people claiming to be LGBT and (understood: the explosion in people claiming to be) not-cis.
what santo thinks he meant: the explosion in people claiming to be (LGBT and not-cis).”
“What mugabe mean..” only retards refer themselves as in third person. Take care.
“specifically mugabe was referring to the bill maher clip he posted and this article on unz: https://www.unz.com/jtaylor/women-are-the-new-thought-police/.
The respondents were 61 percent women and 39 percent men, 85 percent white and 15 percent non-white. No fewer than 30 percent of the women said they were non-heterosexual, and 13 percent said they were non-cisgender, meaning the sex on their birth certificates was wrong. Seventeen percent of the men said they were non-heterosexual, and 9 percent were non-cis.”
Imagine this EXPLOSION…
Waiting Jew Maher talking about how jews are overrepresent in power places in western world… If not “controlled oposition”
Oh the problem of the world is the woke left
Said the Jew.
Nobody is really brainwashing most of these people. They are just seeing more freedom to experiment themselves or even seeing themselves in a different way to traditional one. And women nature tend to be relatively more sexually ambiguous just look how common is female porn stars performing lesbian scenes in heterossexual movies??
Anyway there is not great advantage publicly claiming being part of a sexual minority even in most countries. Generally a brainwashing is related with advantageous reasons to believe in something.
Again i dont exclude that some of these people are deeply wrong and usually the transgender who desire to make the “transition”, but Oftentimes a phenomenon like that has more nuances than just “it’s a massified brainwashing!!”
Is he already showing behavioral tendencies or still a blank slate???
war between individual persons is not okay. if you really hate someone you can only go to the extreme of wanting that person to die.
if you think that hating someone without wishing the worst on them is okay then clearly you are living in denial and have let disillusionment of reality overtake you!
believe in something more than just your ego if you want to attain spiritual excellence!
The Philosopher said:
LOL the baby has more T than RR.
you are not funny. your sense of humor is drier than the fucking Sahara.
RR implicitly believes in total free will but specially for his ideologically colleagues. He thinks he is above any bias but its doesnt exist even thought rationality is a bias… of an anti bias and it doesnt invalidate rationality as an exceptionally good tool to think. He believes total free will is equallly distributed to every humans withouth severe mental deficience because mind is metaphysical…
i hate you latin americans who think smarter because they know a few right things to say.
Loaded had a concussion after the crime hate he was victim. Before he sounded only dumb and not also disoriented.
i dont blame you one bit for thinking that haha.
The simon baron-cohen test is a poor test.
I did the test and it is highly specific to questions that don’t have any real-life type encounters.
systematizing vs empathizing is real but Simon is too Autistist and too British to make a proper test.
Statistically, it is also a poor test, the questions are not valid.
Temple Grandin says two systemizations exists:
Math spatial algebra, Parietal lobe
Things objects, Temporal lobe.
Then there is the Right DLPC – art imagination working memory.
The Left DLPC is the laungauge modual.
Real neuroscience of gender:
I agree. I don’t understood any of my results of Baron-Cohen test. I’m actually horrible in systemizing and good on empathizing but i when you systemize your empathizing just like i do???
understanding emotional relations.
understanding object relations.
“Real neuroscience of gender:”
It’s important to be careful about what you infer from data like this. There are average differences in connectome between men and women, but you can’t look at any particular brain and know what gender it belongs to.
For example, men and women have different heights, but you wouldn’t be able to tell who is a male and who is female by simply measuring a random group of people.
“men and women have different heights”
if this is your best analogy you probably should look at the genitals instead.
True. But when brain type and its individual “owner” are analysed and depending the brain type there is a variable likelihood to have a match. This randomness is dependent and limited.
everything is so limited. there really arent many things that transcend a certain level of understanding. intelligence beyond a certain point is useless.
most individuals will try too hard to differentiate themselves in as many ways possible but its not going to occur fluidly. the thing that is more powerful than the understanding of the world is the internal aspects of who we are. emotions are stronger than everything.
The Philosopher said:
Garbage. Please stop shitting all over the comments section. We already have RR and anime.
women don't know what they want. you have to tell them. sad. said:
^^^shitting all over the comments personality^^^
The Philosopher said:
I was wondering why the comment section was so clear and then I realised we had 2 weeks without Loadeds garbage stinking up the comment section. Jesus christ his comments are so bad and weird.
One the major problem of Rushton works was using and comparing populations in different stages of demographic transition and civilizational organization like hunter gatherers and or their direct descendents recently migrated to urban places in Africa or Asia to “citizens” with generations living in urban places. In early 1900, europeans had 4-5 kids per couple, started their adult lives during mid to late teenage years and had higher infant mortality. Seems the big difference between human populations is their capacities to adapt to different contexts. While europeans and east asians has been capable to control their fertility rates (in some cases with the direct help of government like in China or US like in Japan post 2WW) delaying it to maximize their economic security (but also being forced to reduce way below minimal replacement of 2,01), blacks have, disporportionally speaking, struggle to readjust to a different socioeconomic environment demands. It doesn’t mean all them are not being capable of course. Probably having many people with avg IQ below 80 contribute to their difficulty to adjust to a demanding controlled or low fertility environment.
santacool = peepee = sad said:
advice to all the commenters here including the owner of this blog: stop being shameless.
if you are a person of value dont fuddle around with reality it will destroy you.
most of you have mental illnesses there are a few level-headed people but remain integral to some greater moral trend to make the world a better place.
rr's babymomma said:
RR is being cuckholding lol
austin slater said:
It all depends on how you define alt-right. If you define it only as a belief in racial differences, you’ll end up with a lot of libertarian/an-cap spergs.
If you add social conservatism and anti-semitism (2 extremely non-autistic beliefs) to your definition, very few autistic people would remain.
The alt-right, as defined the latter way, probably has one of the lowest concentrations of autistic people out of all the major political movements. I’d imagine there are very few autistic communists as well.
steve shoe is why pipo hate chinapipo. he's a walking stereotype. said:
especially as this yuge promotion of autism is so recent and what is called the “alt-right” is just what used to be called “mainstream american politics”.
steve shoe is so autistic he attributes the rise in diagnoses of autism to older fathers.
One of the causes is probably what he meant.
whales have bigger brains than chinapipo too. but they don't even have minds according to rr. said:
do the gedankinexperiment.
cut off a dutchman’s head and stick it to a chinaman’s body.
the chinaman will look like a freak because the head is way too big for his body.
which is why the encephalization quotient was invented.
but because low IQ and dishonest... said:
peepee will continue to cite a study from the US military wherein neither whites nor chinapipo are representative. wypipo in the military are dumb. chinapipo americans are selected.
Were Asians in the 1980s army selected or were they the descendants of the lowest of the low who came over an indentured laborers. And how do you know white Americans aren’t selected from the best of Europe? Crossing the ocean before the airplane, defeating the Natives and starting a whole new country likely all selected for IQ.
Most of the cognitive elite do not need to emigrate, only in very adverse situations.
“Were Asians in the 1980s army selected or were they the descendants of the lowest of the low who came over an indentured laborers.”
This isn’t even true, and even then, Chinese laborers were a selected population too. Japanese immigrants before the 60s emigrated wkth at least an 8th grade education which was on par with whites of the time period and verified by numerous other authors.
“Most of the cognitive elite do not need to emigrate, only in very adverse situations.”
Bold claim—do you have the data to back this assertion? Because I know of numerous papers that directly contradict your claim.
I don’t have any data but Lynn has some thoughts:
The Chinese and
Japanese who emigrated to the United States in the second half of the nineteenth century were
largely peasants who came to do unskilled work on the construction of the railways and other
building work. This would probably not seem an attractive option for the more intelligent who
would generally have been doing sufficiently well in their own countries. Once these early
migrants had settled in the United States their children would have shown some regression
upwards towards the East Asian mean of 105.
page 89 of the uploaded book (not the pdf page)
Click to access lynn-race-differences-in-intelligence.pdf
Yes. The correct is: most socioeconomic ‘elite’, often above avg in cognitive capacities, is less likely to emigrate and often do it specially in very adverse situations.
Most of europeans who immigrated to Americas from XIX to mid XX century were not the wealthiest and wealth is positively correlated with cognitive capacities. But among specific groups like jews, this tendency has been reverse by specific reasons.
PP, thanks. I had forgotten to check Lynn. I reject the “regress upwards” part of course. But I wouldn’t call it “regressing upward” (doesn’t make sense). I’ll quote this in my article. It’s coming along nicely. Also a few months back I was searching Google books for some old stuff on test scores and saw some high scores for Chinese and Japanese in the 30s. I’ll cite some of them later and will cite in my article.
A lot of Italians today are descendants of South Italian immigrants and I’m pretty sure they have some of the highest incomes in the country. You didn’t give any data though. Check Lee and Zhou 2015 and their assorted papers and then check Tran et al 2018 on hyper-selectivity to see data on some immigrant populations’ educational attainment then compared to their native country.
Ok. Seems you have a problem to interpret easily constructed sentences. Again and more direct, do you believe majority of europeans who immigrated to Americas were wealthier or the wealthiest?? That’s it.
It’s not about wealth—it’s about the selectivity of the population. Of course most of them were negatively selected. Do you even know about the testing conditions at Ellis Island? Read Mismeasure of Man and Howard Andrew Knox: Pioneer of Intelligence Testing at Ellis Island. Remember that you said:
“Most of the cognitive elite do not need to emigrate, only in very adverse situations”
And you did NOT specify a time period. Most immigrants today are positively not negatively selected and this is true for many immigrant populations. Refer to the references I cited above.
I corrected what i stated previously. My question is very simple…
“A lot of Italians today are descendants of South Italian immigrants and I’m pretty sure they have some of the highest incomes in the country”
Correct. And today, it’s the people with degrees who are emigrating, and this positive selection is shaping immigration. Most immigration today is positive, not negative.
What you mean with positive or negative??
Today many educated young italians are emmigrating. It’s bad for the country not good.
xi has a bigger face and they're about the same height. said:
xi is WAY smarter than biden in IQ test terms i expect. he’s been selected for his IQ by the chinese system in part. biden has been selected for his psychopathy.
but the irish are known for their large heads. and their stupidity. conan o’brien has said so many times.
this map shows the irish have bigger heads than the english. that’s not cricket!
Rosie is Irish and she has a freaking HUGE head (24.5″) second only to Oprah (25.25″) and interestingly enough, she’s the only person Oprah considered REAL competition in all her years on daytime. At her peak she came very close to overtaking Oprah in the ratings, but luckily she’s so low in psychopathy that her popularity began to decline.
She’s one of very few people who beat Trump at his own game:
He was so shell-shocked that a fat bull-dyke on a lady’s talk show had got the better of him that he spent weeks calling her a fat pig.
Although college dropp-out Rosie (despite her huge brain) is usually intimidated by people who went to elite schools, she makes an exception for Trump who she considers genetically inferior:
Before the great potato famine crisis and subsequent massive emigration thanks for the queeen, irish population was quite big for an european standards. Without all this shit Ireland would be signficantly more populated than it is even today.
I don’t know if comparing Ireland, especially when it was basically a British colony, with current North Korea is exaggerated. In truth, the Irish, on avg, don’t seem so different in behavior to the Scottish, Welsh and English (just with native whites), in my opinion. The biggest difference is that, historically, they has been dominated by Catholic Church and British Empire. Ireland now rightfully is called The Celtic Tiger not just because it entry to EU or reverse immigration but also because it reached its max genotypical IQ.
The Philosopher said:
Look I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The Irish are one of the most r selected white populations so I seriously dont think having bigger heads is a reflection of superior intellect. We aren’t noted for our scientists or philosophers up until very recent times. Most of our intellectuals were Anglo-Irish colonisers (Wilde, Burke etc). There is a certain amount of inbreeding historically among the Irish and a kind of cartoon demonstration of Irish reproductive trends are the Irish travellers. But over the past 20 or 30 years we have caught up in terms of better breeding and better education so I expect we will eventually match the British.
That is correct. The larger skull size is a corollary of a greater percentage of robust atavistic Brunn phenotypes in the Irish population. Ganzir is an extreme example of that phenotype. A greater proportion of cromagnid genetics entails greater overall robustness which includes larger skulls. The same can be observed in pacific islander populations.
neanderthal brain size adjusted for their body size is significantly SMALLER than that of AMHs. see the wiki on brain size. said:
yes. not only height, but overall robustness is strongly correlated with brain size. this is the explanation for why neanderthals had such big brains despite their short stature relative to AMHs.
morton’s measurements were CORRECT. BUT the claim of superiority for a race by its mean cranial capacity is RETARDED.
1. yuge overlap in cranial capacity. so it has no use in identifying race from skulls…unlike so many other features of the skull…especially the facial skeleton.
2. within the race there will be subpopulations with very different mean cranial capacities, siberians vs south chinese for example. or west irish vs albanians.
BUT one old paper noted that allen’s rule accounts for more of the increase in brain size with winter temperatures than does bergmann’s rule. in other words, heads become rounder more than bodies and thus brains become bigger. likely this is because of the arctic people’s small stature and gracility relative to northern europeans and polynesians.
Irish have bigger heads but they drink more which depresses IQ.
Also english have a tradition where until a woman’s body fills up with blood they dont give birth (meaning very rarely an anemic woman gave birth since middle ages. I dont know what is the situation now). This in my opinion caused idi*ts from being born in the english population less likely, i think.
Also we need to look at the rates of cousin marriage in ireland compared to england historically.
Plus english ate apples especially in the mornings maybe that also helped in their ‘connectome’ or ‘cortical thickness’. Kinda of a weird theory this one.
Plus english cultural wisdom (english proverbs, sayings) are the best in the world in my opinion. Maybe following these..helped english avoid making more mistakes than others which could have led to them being more successful.
Trying ireland stuck into middle ages vibes for centuries while UK suffering a lot of selective processes like industrial revolution during the same period.
high = > 0.7 said:
so xi is a fucking GIANT in china-stan.
given the high correlation between height and cranial capacity…
other chinamen have smaller heads than biden.
I said a few weeks back..Xi is one of the greatest minds. Or something similar. Because becoming a dictator to 1.5 billion people without using bloodshed, war, military takeover and instead using only intellect is a big deal. Granted chinese like other east asians are a ‘minion-like’ race (picked this description up from santo which is very funny and apt and funny i think partly because it is apt)…but still taking over 1.5 billion people is still a very big deal.
Instead of oprah, peeps should write articles upon articles on Xi. He has a big head too like oprah, plus he belongs to an ethnicity about whose intellect peeps likes to write articles about.
when the results came back flushton would have to kill himself. sad. said:
imagine if flushton judged the relative IQs of whites and chinapipo by the whites in chinapipo-stan
just imagine that!
peepee is roght for once... said:
I hate jews but i’m Chomsky fan and ukrainians hater = retarded =
THE TRUTH =
some day peepee will understand after being reincarnated as a cockroach for a trillion years.
Someone is (((ANGRY))) hearing some truths…
Poor ukrainian people, pets and wild animals.
Russia is just a big piece of shit.
wow! even fake brazilians have been braiwashed by the jews into supporting ukraine. said:
someone is (((GAY))).
did you know that “ukrain” is the name of a drug for AIDS?
“Fake brazilians”. He think i’m a bolsonaro supporter. So ignorant. Big and empty IQ… waiting for more childish vulgarities…
i'm not a bigot, unlike peepee... said:
i ADMIT: ne asians DO appear to have large heads for their body size.
BUT the skulls for that map were not contemporary and only had one sample from china, none from korea, a shit ton from siberian peoples…which were EXTRAPOLATED.
i also ADMIT: that despite the yuge body size advantage, the brain size advantage for northern european males is 50 cc or less.
the data i remember was postmortem data on:
1. OLD englishmen in the 1940s.
2. south korean men in their 40s in the 1990s.
obviously these may not be representative either.
“may not be representative”
the reason china is on the level of mexico economically is NOT wypipo's fault! said:
as pill has noted: joe chinaman has a small head. you would know this if you ever took a tour of china-stan. not just the cities.
i have a similar head shape to Joe Biden.
i'll have to post this on rr's blog too. said:
notice peepee supports the BIZARRE and OBVIOUSLY false theory that the ashkenazim of israel are dumber than those of the US due to america’s selective immigration policies relative to israel’s for jews.
canadians need to take US history classes!
NOT A MYTH! fresh off the boat jews scored WAY lower than WASPs…and continued to in some studies up to the 1970.
Jews were given the Binet when they arrived at Ellis island & many on those who failed may have ended up in Israel because America wouldn’t take them
why do you make up lies peepee? because evil? said:
You’re so stupid Mug of Pee. Calling someone an evil liar just because you’re too uneducated to know the history of your own damn country:
“The purpose of our mental measuring scale at Ellis Island is the sorting out of those immigrants who may, because of their mental make-up, become a burden to the State or who may produce offspring that will require care in prisons, asylums, or other institutions.” Anyone who had a “suspected mental defect” or who showed “definite signs of mental disease” were given these tests that we can readily recognize as intelligence tests. Federal law in 1915 required that anyone who failed the tests be turned away.
He’s (partly) right. Goddard tested some 35 Jews with the Binet Simon scale (1908 version) in Spring of 1913. Unaware of later, post-1924 immigration act Jews. I’ll check tomorrow.
The Philosopher said:
Even if the jews that went to america started out being dumb they may have carried the genes to high intellect. Through assorative mating and the usual selection pressures, the jews definitely overtook gentiles in the 20th century.
i feel sorry for him...and for peepee... said:
i agree with rr,
it’s funny how a canadian had to put on a porsthetic cranium to look like a small me…but smaller…
of course i’m talking about max headroom…
mugabe more head room.
my rabbi, patrick byrne, said it was ethical to post this video as my own cranium is so much larger this video won’t cause peepee to be taken to the loony bin for a fortnight like my beloved LOADED.
Racist Indians racistly claim themselves to have smaller brains as a race.
I can’t believe Indians would be so bigoted against Indians that through their own developed cultural lens they would perceive their own brains to be smaller than Europeans and East Asians.
Mugshot thinking is a combination of repressed gayness + severe autism + stalinism/ tankiesm/ pseudo social justice retards + illiterate neonazism…
He believes roosha is denazifying a country governed by a jewish man who is a grandson of a holocaust survivors… meanwhile thousand of white ukrainians (and lots of animals) has been killed by a psychopath and his army of criminals, tchetchens and yakuts.
You can’t be more loser than that.
The Philosopher said:
They got rid of the pro-Russia president who was democtractially elected in a coup in 2014. Thats why Russia originally intervened.
Very difficult to believe a Kremlin puppet was democratically elected in satelites countries like Ukraine. They didnt take Crimea because of ukrainian elections. It was an excuse to take it from them for economically and nationalistic (evil) reasons. Anyway even if a coup happen in a country at priori nobody has the right to invade it. Only if the coup was by wrong reasons a foreign intervention could be possible morally speaking. What US do especially in Latin America, Russia do the Dame with its neighborhood of former soviet republics and both are wrong.
The Philosopher said:
Well there were allegations of CIA involvment in the 2014 coup. Obviously the situation then facing the Kremlin was that Ukraine was going to join NATO and that would have been unacceptable. So in 2014 they invaded. Imagine if a pro Russian government was installed in Mexico…yeah the US would definitely do something.
Most of latin american leftist political parties are anti US and pro Russia. Brasil seems suffered a coup recently in 2016 and with some interference of the CIA. But nothing this justify a retarded war like that, putin is just another empowered rationally retarded Psycho.
The Philosopher said:
Unmod this. CIA carried out assassinations of latin american leaders regularly in the 20th century.
That’s correct but one thing to justify other.
(?) abnormalities = autism (?)
alt-right vs woke SJW
detailed specific open ambiguous
individualist opinions – collectivist shared belief
pill is a British sociopath.
autism spec and schizo spec
The Philosopher said:
You have very severe autism. You even write like a chatbot.
schizoid sociopaths cannot model what empathy is truly like.
they are autistic to real empathy.
pill if you were not British no one would confuse your schizophrenia for autism but you are so it is hard to know for sure. no one would confuse an American schizo for an autist.
you and my brother are both on the same spectrum, ESTJ for him, ISTJ for you. Blind to abstractions. Concrete cognition. Black and white.
putin is evil, but... said:
the FACTS are on russia’s side.
this is just a proxy war and america is being EVIL.
BEST solution is let ukraine LOSE. but america will fight to the last ukrainian because…gay rights? what? it’s EVIL!
if Russia wins in Ukraine they will invade Poland.
and if they invade Poland they will fight nato and lose.
and when the Russians lose to nato in Poland Russia will use nukes.
Ukraine is a buffer to the nuclear option, not gay rights.
Proof Animekitty isn’t socially retarded.
Also, proof that Philo and Mugabe are gullible morons.
The Philosopher said:
Nope. Hes socially retarded.
The only reason this high IQ “genius” is in the side of EVIL is because he is clearly a self repressed gay. You must be a complete retard, Qanon level, to give too much relevance to or being against ” ‘gay’ rights” while the most problematic questions are demographic crisis, en masse immigration and pseudo anti racist indoctrination. It’s not because 5% of population is now free to fuck whoever they want that West is decaying. It’s not even the apparent lack of religiousness or magical thinking indoctrination but the obvious fact whites have an extremely lower fertility rates and have been brainwashed or blackmailed to accept uncontrolled multiculturalism and pseudo anti racism. Just someone with severe autism to lack cognitive flexibility to revaluate his beliefs and opinions about after a thoughtful presentation like mine. It’s frankly pathetic and ridiculous a grown men with beard spending innacceptable time with LGBT issues in that retarded way. Only a stupid thing like religion to explain it. Alt right and radical right are no different in autism level as SJW. One the major factor to make someone more autistic in thinking style is the binnarism or cognitive rigidity.
While white nationalism keep strongly dominated by religious retardedness and narratives based mostly on hate and over generalizations of selected groups, it will keep being an easily marginalized political force.
The only acceptable defeat for ukrainians is leaving the already “annexed” territories to evil rooshia, by now. But it is a divide and conquer. If the whitey would like to create a global racial solidarity from Lisbon to Vladivostok this possibility or hope was again cancelled by a psychotrash and far right with two an IQ of two digits.
Chomsky loves putin, roosha and even north korea he probably call “the people’s korea”. You are not in the side of putin because supposedly the facts are in the side of roosha but because you are evil like him, loser but evil.
Several times you commented here with pride how evil whitepeepo can be…
stop it. hahah. you are stupid.
Nobody cares about your presence here. You’re polluting the cognitivesphere of this blog with your intrinsic intelectual handicapness.
Please, shut up
name redacted by pp, 2023-02-12 said:
what if for some bizarre reason russia had overthrown the government of iraq AND iraq had a significant american population that didn’t want to be part of iraq and the US invaded iraq, but only those areas where americans were 90% of the population and russia and china sent 100 billion to the iraqis to take back the american territory.
this is why persians call the US “the great satan”.
“the rules based international order” = whatever the US says it is.
where are the nukes in your analogy?
you cannot have an analogy like this without the nukes involved.
Santocool (((greatest mugabe's achievement = score high in IQ tests...))) said:
Only US is bad.
So roosha is good because it against U$.
And North Korea
“I’m always in the side of people and living beings, in the side of those in pain and suffering”.
The only argument tankies can ever make is some form of whataboutism.
“The U.S Government did bad things in the past to other countries, so it’s okay if China commits genocide and Russia attempts to invade their neighbors> They deserve to have influence in their regions too”
No, they fucking don’t. I’d rather have the US rule the world than China or Russia. In fact, once Russia inevitably collapses, we should carve out areas of it’s territory and hand it out like free candy.
One of the main reasons a US run by Christian nationalism would be so horrific for the rest of the world is that we would become isolated. Cementing China’s rise to power and Russia’s goal of conquest.
Disgusting seeing people claiming to be in favor of social justice and cynically despising what is happening in countries just because they are anti-US. Oftentimes i trying to know if it is characteristically bizarro ideological indoctrination or just a plain and Simple lack of moral integrity. Tankies are insane. I know two gay men who are Soviet Union fans and now pro Russia. Even if they are not gays, make absolutely no rational sense defending countries like North Korea and Rússia and claiming to be a progressivist or against Injustices like mysoginy.
The Philosopher said:
I’ve used this exact same example but with Mexico to convince people that Russia may be justified in intervening.
This elderly rr even call iranians ‘persians’. Maybe when he was younger even Otoman Empire existed so why.
Ukraine has been a literal puppet of Kremlin interests. The country still has a pop above 40 million people (if i”m nota wrong), a very rich territory and high for an european standard. It has everything to be way better than has been and inevitably being part of EU helps a lot eastern european countries. Rosshia is a big retarded third world nation especially in diplomatic terms. It’s very advantageous for Ukraine ally to NATO and EU even knowing US is one of biggest bitches in the world. I’m looking for an Ukrainian perspective.
Santocool ( and psychopathy doesnt make people more rational. Actually is the opoosite) said:
By an Ukrainian perspective there is no logical reason to keep within russian influence because there is no real advantages to be a Kremlin vassal. Russia invaded Ukraine because it always treated this country as a territory and not as a solvereign nation.
Russia and the Curse of Geography
Want to understand why Putin does what he does? Look at a map.
By Tim Marshall
Putin rat is a Psycho. He lies, manipulates and order to oppress or kill people since his first of government.
Retarded autistic marxists tend to avoid psychological explainations to political events favoring “materialistic” or “purely geopolitical” ones but both dont exist alone and psychological reasons tend to be more fundamental to explain individual and also collective behaviors.
The Philosopher said:
LOL marxists are the least autistic political group.
Most of putin achievements are lies. 30 40% of russian people live in poverty, russia keep among the top 10 in abortions and divorces, russian army is a joke, and i bet the relative improvement of fertility rates has been driven to ethnic minorities, especially muslins like tchetchens.
Marxists are probably the most feminine and mentally ill group. But generally all extreme/alt/far political beliefs are probably related to some sort of mental abnormality.
Just because america is bad doesn’t automatically make russia good in every way…. on the basis of that, does it?
RR is likely used to arguing with blacks and browns who are too low IQ (stupid) to challenge him and already agree with his social justice warrior views anyway. Sad.
Is it “social justice warrior” to say that Rushton was refuted to hell and back for decades and he didn’t have a good retort to any of them? Ever seen his debate with Joseph Graves?
The Philosopher said:
You are a social justice warrior. Just accept it and stop calling yourself Race Realist.
There’s nothing wrong with social justice and no disconnect between being for social justice and believing that race is real.
The Philosopher said:
You don’t believe its real. Stop saying that. You believe the word exists and thats about it.
You believe on race as a mean to an end ( social construct) and not as an end in itself. It’s already very delusional believing something clearly physical is just a social construct. Typical for an ideological indoctrination, despising evident or obvious factors just because your ideology saying it is not real.
(RR: what is “ideology”??)
What do you think the claim “Race is a social construct of a biological reality” means?
Who cares? My point is you think race means nothing except nonphysical features (which for some magical dualistic reason determine nothing about their behavior or characteristics).
“I admit that we can’t know everything.”
No, I showed you numerous times how the mind and physical correspond, and how there is nothing that is “purely physical” and that all physical measurements are actually relative, and that everything subjective is actually objective for its own frame of reference, but you just turn the blinders on and cite some fat ugly black affirmative action hire.
My two arguments show there is a mind-independent world.
I meant to say “except unimportant physical features”
“My two arguments show there is a mind-independent world.”
Nope, only a human mind independent world only. And it depends on the definition of mind because you have not shown how intentionality only arises with human minds.
that is true but HBDers only have other HBDers to interact with because of how stupid our society is.
most people are scientifically illiterate thus giving people a complete failure to understand a higher intellectual source of analysis on the subject.
btw ive always believed in HBD from the age of three or four onwards i am telling all of you that i am legitimately an intellectual god i dont fuss around when it comes to my values and beliefs. at all. fucking ever.
RR used to say he didn’t find black women attractive.
The Philosopher said:
Then he kept failing with women and his urges got so bad he had to resort to dumpster diving.
Haha you’re hilarious. You have no idea what’re you’re talking about.
HBD makes perfect sense to anyone who doesnt live under a rock. ive known HBD was real for the longest time when i post rap videos or whatever its just out of amusement at dumbasses doing dumb things tbh.
those who view this blog might not understand since most of you dumbfucks dont understand that either actually.
release the chechens! said:
LOADED is the smartest of all the personalities.
after russia wins the war in ukraine it will invade brazil.
The Philosopher said:
I hope youre being sarcastic Mugabe otherwise I have to downgrade you.
The Philosopher said:
Sarcastic about Loaded I mean.
Santocool ( mugabe loves "strong" men) said:
Lula is a brodar of your alphae maacho…
Russia barrely invaded Ukraine with that gargabe tanks and drunk trailer white and ethnic minority solddiers lol
rank the commenters on this blog:
The Philosopher said:
Does anybody else find Loaded’s comments totally incoherent? Its kind of like hes schizo but then I remember that hes also an idiot so I don’t know what is causing his comments to be stinking hot horseshit.
the Irish feel inferior that they didnt invent a language as profound as English tbh.
honestly Pill in an ideal world you would be a slave of mine. since i come from pedigree and you wipe asses for a living i want you to be able to do things for me that are actually productive.
in other words keep hating.
The Philosopher said:
Even your insults are totally incoherent. You are all over the map buddy.
thats because you cant think abstractly you lack any form of creativity smartass.
The Philosopher said:
So according to puppy and his theories about intelligence we should be seeing eskimos as the top people in the forbes list.
By my count there are zero.
The Philosopher said:
Explain why there are no eskimos on top of the forbes list puppy.
romeo & juliet vs....? said:
another OBJECTIVE measure of people’s SUPERIORITY is…
how many suicides by men are because a woman wouldn’t love him?
this was the subject of Kokoro…
this even happens…there was some male porn star who killed himself because female porn star said…uhhhm no!
Mug you must join a) Illuminati b) Alcoholics Anonymous c) the Ku Klux Klan
STILL LOOKING! said:
contrary to popular opinion…
even if they could do it, most men would get sick of porn after a few “roles”.
contra james brown…it’s not a man’s world either…we’re all still living in ancient greece and rome with a christian icing.
The Philosopher said:
Black men would literally fuck elderly women if that was all they could get. Their appetites are enormous due to T levels so I expect the black porno stars are loving it.
the semite + european is generally very attractive...to me. said:
i don’t ever wanna drink again…i just need a friend…
i could be your “friend” amy.
amy winehouse was attractive in an extremely SEMITIC way…to me…
but her features would never be…she could never be a model…
the semite + european is generally very attractive…to me.
or the med + n european.
I saw some photos of her before fame and drug addiction. She looked beautiful in a semitic way, face and body. Jennifer Gray (or Grey?) before rhino plasty also looked very attractive. Many semitic jewish or non jewish women look smart and charming. But Linda Cardelin, Sarah Young (porn actress) and Frances Fisher younger (withouth plastic deformity surgery), first alpine, second semitic and third med subracial phenotypes are among my favorite.
The Philosopher said:
When I said our breeding has improved in Ireland I meant its become more k selected. I have a theory that R selection and K selection varies according to economic surplus in the environment and you could probably do a good history of Ireland through the lens of economic surplus and its effect on breeding strategies.
Strictly speaking, r selected isn’t inferior to K selection. Honestly, I think the house favours R selection from what I can tell. But if you are talking about very long time horizons K selected populations dominate R selected barbarians due to technology which in my opinion, the evolutionary algorithm struggles to incorporate into who it chooses to get laid. Even in Ireland the settled more k selected people dominate the more R selected travellers but one on one I would always bet on the traveller to dominate some villager.
The Philosopher said:
A woman is always going to choose a barbarian to fuck over a farmer. Rushton never went near that in his book. In fact I think Rushton implies farmers are sexier LOL. The only people that talk about it are those guys in the manosphere like Rollo Tomassi and Nick Krauser. Its a pretty depressing fact. A guy with big height and muscles and an aggressive personality will clean up. You don’t need to know much more to get laid.
Many women dont. Women are not a monolytic group and you are analysing them based on your perspective just like many manospheric guys do. It’s true that majority of women need a minimal romantic involvement to have sex. Today we have many women who are familiarized with casual sex but they are not majority. For dickpeople is psychological and anatomically easier to fuck. For someone who is born with an anatomically receptive reproductive and sexual organ, sex tend to be more meaningful and then difficult. Maybe i’m wrong but i’m based on traditional stereotypes about men and women related to sexual behavior. For most men, homo, bi or hetero, sex is one of the top five priorities in life. For most women, it doesnt. Evolutionarily speaking, it is explained just like ” men are on avg obsessed with sex because one of these or our main priority is spread our genes for the max of women we can. Women are on avg less obsessed with sex because they are more like a receptor than a spreader”.
Santo makes sense when he is not being disagreeable much like myself.
only time to be disagreeable is when things dont make sense or you believe things otherwise to be true. or at least that is the case in an ideal world.
The Philosopher said:
Actually Amy Winehouse is a good example of it. She dragged some black security guard into her limo for a one night stand.
Another example is our resident female commenter Marsha who dated a black dude despite being in the Forbes list and having a gigantic IQ.
The house actually favours the barbarian over the farmer but the farmer uses technology to subdue the barbarian which the algorithm cant really handle.
The Philosopher said:
Most blacks are barbarians. I mean to a literally comedic level in how their faces are and their behaviour.
paul newman is the female equivalent. he was half irish. half jewish. brando was 100% NW european but looked roman. said:
by “semitic” i mean the language family…or the levant…not jews per se.
catherine keener is or was very sexy to me. she’s half lebanese.
half italian, half german … Sabina Sciubba
"you love lesbians." --- peepee "maybe. what a tragedy." --- mugabe said:
“it’s interesting” as chomsky would say.
there is a continuum between manliest and most feminine faces and in general…the extremes of both are NOT the most attractive…
mugabe admits he doesn’t like man faces…never gonna do it with santo…so BTFO!
but mugabe does like thin and facial features are strengthened by thinness…strong features…
i don’t want a sex slave. i want a life partner. that sounds incredibly gay. but it’s actually what most men want…more than anything. in this way men are the victim of roman virility bullshit as much as women…or more.
The Philosopher said:
I am not even sure what you would classify jews, gypsies and these other nomadic groups as. The psychopathy is definitely R selected trait but intelligence is a strong K selected one.
High functioning psychopathy is not “r_selected”. I believe there are many high functioning anti social people among middle and upper classes who never were diagnosed or identified. There are so many and especially in power places if psychiatry decided to identify most of them it ended up diagnosing at least 10-20% of population. There is a famous brazilian psychiatrist who estimate % of sociopaths as higher as 30%.
toby young is a classical (actually neo) liberal because he is so "WELL SPOKEN". said:
the BRITISH justification for redonkulous inequality (of opportunity too)…
it ULTIMATELY comes down to the british ruling class’s FREAKISHLY HIGH VIQ…
this has been commented on by continentals so much to no end.
Teffec P. said:
Their VIQ seems higher than it is because of their accents. Sylvester Stallone would sound like Shakespeare if he grew up in a noble British household.
Teffec P. said:
Arguably the two most academically talented people at my elite high school were autistic, and they’re both extremely right-wing. One of them memorized the constitution in middle school and routinely BTFO’d social studies teachers. The other came from a family of academics and has a hyphenated last name, but he somehow got Christ-pilled at Columbia and now writes about abortion being murder.
”One of them memorized the constitution in middle school”
”but he somehow got Christ-pilled at Columbia and now writes about abortion being murder”
most academically talented
Often it’s means obsession and radicalism.
What happened to my most recent comment pp?
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thank you massa. i work for NASA. i will leave yo face plastad. drink up a bottle of Shasta.
I’ve never had a shasta drink, what is it like?
disgusting. try cream soda or something instead. theres a lot of good drinks out there shasta is one of them!
I like Keystone Light with rubbing alcohol mixed in, and I use Fresca and Shasta as a chaser. I learned it from Mugabe.
I recently watched Dutton’s interview of Bishop Richard Williamson. Dutton was embarrassingly out of his depth. It was like watching a bright teenager trying to have a serious conversation with a star academic.
HBD nerds are generally not well-read. They frequently propose psychological and social theories that someone more familiar with history or philosophy would instantly dismiss as either already refuted, or notionally incoherent.