Alex Jones is being sued for $150 million for his claims that the Sandy Hook shooting never happened and that the parents are a bunch of actors.
It will be interesting to see how much money the jury awards the parents for all the pain and suffering Jones has caused these victims of a tragedy, and how much Jones is ultimately forced to pay. He claims to have a negative net worth, but court documents show that at his peak, he earned 9 figures a year selling crap to his low IQ audience.
Pumpkin Person 
I remember seeing a clip of him talking to Joe Rogan a few years ago, saying that his stance was soft and that I doesn’t deny the shooting anymore. Has his stance changed since then?
rr has never mentioned having sex with a black man.
that sounds pretty racist and homophobic.
typical southern italian!
for Pumpkin IQ means everything. he synonymizes self worth with IQ scores.
that is why he thinks i am not a credible character because he thinks because i have mediocre IQ scores must mean that i am not as credible as he is.
well im sorry to break it to you Pumpkin but i think i have a better grasp of reality than you in a lot of ways!
PP,
I think I speak for the majority of your readers when I say that we appreciate your psychometric estimates. I have compiled a short list of figures who I think would make interesting subjects for such estimates. I hope I’m not being too bold in offering unsolicited suggestions.
U.G. Krishnamurti
Osho/Rajneesh
Rudolf Steiner
Bobby Fischer
Marion Tinsley
Stu Ungar
Napoleon
Goethe
Caesar
Ayn Rand
Aristotle
Siddhatha Gotama (largely legendary, but the Dhammapada is probably authentic)
Nietzsche
Schopenhauer
King Solomon (almost certainly legendary, but whatever)
I think I speak for the majority of your readers when I say that we appreciate your psychometric estimates.
That’s very kind of you. Thank you.
all on that list are mentally retarded compared to aquinas.
everyone in this world is retarded when compared to the man himself the real deal the chosen one LOADED.
bow in HIS Presence when you see him because that will save your soul!
what if jesus looked WEIRD too?
like that guy from the turin shrowd and he was really tall…for his time and place?
then one could believe…
26And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
the nose gives it away. sherlock homes was right.
that’s a point about the shrowd…
if jesus really looked like THAT…
no wonder pipo said…
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Jesus probably looked a bit like me tbh.
why is sidhartha gautama legendary? because he was born around 500 b.c which is too ancient to admit he is real?
If I were him, I’d double down on the “Sandy Hook was a hoax” line. Deny it. Call the victims and their families liars. Accuse them all of being crisis actors. Keep doing it no matter what. He needs to be consistent to appeal to his conspiracy-nut audience.
Alex is a Jewish actor paid to blackwash certain topics.
Hes not jewish. But I believe his wife was.
Jones is what certain frog-posting no-goodniks refer to as a ‘shabbos goy’. He isn’t himself a tiny hat man (although his children are eligible for Israeli citizenship).
Jones is careful to avoid stepping on the wrong toes. Bobby Fischer was the real deal.
If they bankrupt poor Alex Jones, how will Mugabe get his news?
do you recommend Drummer magazine?
https://stormer-daily.rw/old-mans-war-world-war-jones-old-man-jones-sandy-hoax-crisis-actor-payback-mission/
Andrew Anglin just called Sandy Hook a hoax. It just doesn’t get through to conservatives that the gun laws in America are horrible. I bet Mugabe also thinks Sandy Hook was a hoax.
this is all because of the 2d amendment pill-tard.
at least john paul stevens was honest and not tarded.
What part of gun laws in america are horrible do you disagree with? Its objectively the case. Yes, that includes maybe getting rid of the 2nd altogether, but the 2nd is clearly about readiness for a British invasion. Anyone without autism knows the founders would have been against citizens walking around with bazookas and flame throwers.
anyone without autism would know you have no idea what you’re talking about.
why would the 13 colonies distrust everything british and suddenly trust their new central govt.?
read scalia’s opinion in heller and apologize for your retardation and gayness peepee.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html
btw, scalia’s opinion was wrong, but as i’ve said 1 bajilion times (because you have no memory peepee)
the actually correct opinion was and is socially unacceptable.
“why would the 13 colonies distrust everything british and suddenly trust their new central govt.?”
Because it says “as part of a well regulated militia”. Its obvious the founders didn’t mean a militia to police their own government you fucking moron. They meant for a militia to respond to an external threat because the US didn’t have a standing army.
Scalia’s opinion is autism and weaselling. He says prefactory clauses don’t limit operative clauses and gives no evidence or reasoning for making that statement. If Scalia really believed in the 2nd amendment being immune to technological change, why can’t citizens buy chemical weapons or bazookas? Scalia knows it would be a total mess if people actually could bear arms.
“What part of gun laws in america are horrible do you disagree with?”
Hey Pill, have you ever lived in a primarily non-white city in America? Would you consider doing so if you were legally unable to defend yourself against would-be robbers, rapists, and murderers?
We can reform/revise the current firearms laws AFTER we do something about the hordes of raping, looting degenerates (many of them white) that plague this country.
“We can reform/revise the current firearms laws AFTER we do something about the hordes of raping, looting degenerates (many of them white) that plague this country.”
No, if we took the guns away from the blacks 80% of the problem would be solved. The problem with America is black people running amok with guns basically.
You can’t solve the crime problem simply by arming everyone. That would make it worse. It wouldn’t stop crime. There might even be an arms race where criminals simply vie for dominance with people armed with handguns by getting more advanced weaponry.
If you believe in the 2nd amendment for cultural reasons, then the first best solution is actually what America has been doing up until George Floyd…mass incarceration of blacks. But it papered over the fact that the gun laws are dumb.
Pill, I don’t think we really disagree. I wrongly assumed that you had a different solution in mind.
the pill personality isn’t any less autistic than peepee. autists can’t act neurotypical. sad.
because low IQ i have to explain that jones’s bankruptcy will have no effect on his broadcasting unless money isn’t the point of the lawsuit…but you’d have to be non-autistic to know this.
but you’d have to be non-autistic to know this.
Then how would you know it?
If hes bankrupt and these companies are sole trader type entities, it might put a stop to it.
But yeah theres nothing stopping Jones getting a microphone and a camera and talking in public for free. He just won’t have any incentive to do it.
from a cursory analysis it’s obvious to all non-autists that the alex jones trial is illegal lawfair, the judge is incompetent, and the plaintiff’s att is a retarded faggot.
Brilliant analysis. You should write for the Harvard Law Review.
Why do you love Alex Jones so much? What does he actually do for you? I bet you were one of those losers that bought penis growth pills and vitality pills and other stupid shit from his website.
LOL why is this banned? I tought you would have liked me bashing Mugabe’s love of Alex Jones.
unbanned.
Pumpkin in my understanding lacks values etc. yes he is open minded but at what cost? he doesnt seem to find anything meaningful out of life except the materialism and the superficial aspect of our reality.
Pumpkins spiritual intelligence would be very low.
I read the comment section of this article puppy made on Alex Jones 5 years ago. This was when the blog was in its prime. Then puppy decided to ban or attempt to ban half the people you see in the article’s comment section (including me).
Puppy thinks Lion nuking his own blog is the model to follow. ‘Great’ minds think alike. Notice the way Puppy worships Lion and constantly quotes him…
Don’t worship him but a lot of people respect him; that’s why I quote him. Also my opinion of him went way up because pandemic.
Lion isn’t particularly smart or insightful. I have no idea why he gained prominence. I only went to his website because you kept mentioning him and yeah he does say some correct things but mainly I went there to troll them.
id say im a better or more observant commenter than anyone who has commented here. i made my influence on this blog and the blog has progressed forward in its capacity to actually make accurate assessments on situations.
overall despite commenters not being as knowledgeable as in the past the commenters now can reflect on things better and make correct analyses of situations instead of speculations that were incorrect like before.
I think Lion is a very clever old conservative Jewish middle class man. I really enjoyed his blog.
He has depressive and self destructive inclinations as many clever Jews (wierdlly). Some Jews worship what they have (all people around them are the best) but some despise their environment. It’s a pitty Lion is a bit like that …
Despite his being a Derbyshire conservative, I was glad to follow him until he self destroyed. As I don’t have Twitter I couldn’t follow him there .
I like you Philo (despite your insults) and I don’t think your dumb at all but Lion is much more clever than you are (sorry to break it to you).
There is at least 1 sd gap among you in verbal reasoning and more than 2 sd in numerical IQ. I don’t know about spatial, I think Lion is quite lower in this area but so are you .
I must add that, like Pumpkin, Lion has always been very kind with my commenting,
And also like Pumpkin, he is very resourceful and finding interesting stuff to post about. I first discovered Lion and he made me discover Pumpkin,
I also liked Ramsey but I stopped commenting when he asked me for money, if he had said please help me because I am very poor, it would have been ok. But I felt my comments were a gift to him and not a right for me to earn (that’s very présomptuous I know but when you get French Grandes Écoles, you get a little entitled Brahmin mindset or worse ….)
99 people out of 100 would immediately (and correctly) conclude Im more intelligent than you after a 5 minute conversation and the sad thing is you might have the higher IQ…which maybe adds to your point of IQ tests being misleading.
Youre basically Rain Man with some basic social processing so that you don’t rely on others to dress you and feed you. Youre missing huge chunks of the human mind like imagination, creativity, social reasoning, instinct etc. I really don’t get what you get from reading these blogs.
On a comprehensive IQ test, Bruno would score higher on acquired knowledge, math and perhaps lateral thinking but Pill would score higher on social cognition and ideational fluency. Both are intelligent but in very different ways.
Yes Bruno has his blind spots but he’s so gifted in other areas that these are dismissed by many people as charming quirks.
If you think Lion is a particularly intelligent guy you must not read widely or be able to read. I remember you saying youre a fan of analytical philosophy which is basically autism on steroids and befits your status as the most severe case of autism in this comment section.
How can you tell if I’m 2 SD below Lion in math when youve seen neither of us do math. Are you fucking stupid? Are you angry that I accused you of being a Macron voter or something?
Lion doesn’t even have the basic intellectual integrity to say the jews rule the US. Ron Unz is a thereotical physicist with the integrity to say the US is ruled by jews. Lion is some sort of back office computer programmer who is basically a loser. His whole schtick is just keep calling everything prole. You two are complete idiots if you think hes smart.
“On a comprehensive IQ test, Bruno would score higher on acquired knowledge, math and perhaps lateral thinking”
I would beat him on general knowledge. Autists don’t actually read widely. They remember most of the things they read, sure, but they aren’t actually interested in things that aren’t technical. I seriously doubt Bruno knows anything about sport or celeb gossip.
I think you’d do very well on general knowledge, but Bruno was able to solve many of the verbal analogies on the Mega Test which I assume require a lot of verbal knowledge (among other things).
Analytical philosophy isn’t philosophy. I don’t think Brunos mind is actually able to grasp that and I’m not insulting him here Puppy. I don’t think Bruno actually knows what philosophy is. His instinct would be to consult the dictionary to tell me what philosophy is. Bruno reminds me a lot of Google’s latest AI. I think I’ve mentioned this before. I saw one of Bruno’s comments to a non-technical question and it reminded a lot of how an AI would answer a question. Theres no understanding, just pattern recognition going on in Bruno’s brain.
Verbal analogies wouldn’t test general knowledge. It basically tests vocabulary. I’m sure Bruno’s autistic brain has about 9 million words in about 14 different languages in there. But if you asked Bruno to write a book, even a non-fiction one, it would be terrible.
Philo, people say I write very well (in French) and that I strike imagination, sometimes emails have been assimilated to drone strikes or nuclear bombs depending on the intended outcome.
That’s bizarre because I don’t hide not having an imagination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savant_syndrome
Read this article Bruno. You’ll understand yourself a bit better.
And as for my evaluation of your relative intelligence compared to Lions, it’s a way to answer a commenters question without throwing figures at you.
There is absolutely no hâte and your comments on Macron vote are benign. Elites are supposed to vote Macron here so absolutely no offense taken.
I told you I, globally, like you.
No that’s rain man. Not me. I love entertaining myself with different subjects. I am most thought after in trivial pursuit games in very choosy company (my wife is an anesthetic physician and associate professor at university at 31 yo … )
I wouldn’t mind but that’s not me at all. Captain Data is more me.
“And as for my evaluation of your relative intelligence compared to Lions, it’s a way to answer a commenters question without throwing figures at you.”
What the fuck are you talking about. Nobody asked you for an assessment of my intelligence relative to Lions. Also Puppy, notice the line “without throwing figures at you”…another passive aggressive feminine jab at my intelligence.
You came forward with this evaluation of your own volition. You obviously wanted to insult me. Stop being a passive aggressive weasel and making up false reasons why you wanted to say something.
You then made clearly stupid statements that my spatial intelligence is lower than Lions when its impossible to make a judgement like that from internet comments unless you had us both specially tested.
Youre not completely socially retarded Bruno. Our Creator didn’t totally rob you of humanity. I know you don’t like me despite saying you do. Passive aggression and sarcasm (a feminine trait) is a pretty french thing I must say.
[redacted by pp, 2022-08-04]
pill, you’ve made many insulting comments about many people yourself, so let’s not get triggered when given a taste of your medicine.
Bruno has been running this stealth guerilla warfare campaign against me for years. I should have confronted him years ago.
I remember he made a comment that I should go into finance as a salesperson rather than a technical person a few years ago but I ignored it because he has autism and I didn’t care about his opinion.
I’ve since come to realise that with Bruno theres actually something more going on with him. He’s actually extremely arrogant and smug about his idiot-savant rain man intellectual abilities. Haha he thinks hes hot shit.
Maybe in France hes hot shit where 56% of the population voted for Macron…
The man literally can’t tell what people’s facial expressions are and he writes like a crude AI chatbot but somehow thinks hes superior to me. I’m sorry Bruno but its the opposite. I’m more intelligent than you, broadly speaking.
I can’t recite Pi to 14,000 digits but 99% of people would realise I’m a far more rounded intellect.
Let me be very clear. In the 5 years we’ve been here Bruno has said nothing intelligent outside of math questions. He contributed nothing. Hes pretty arrogant so he’ll now probably say its because hes at a different level to everyone or something smug like that. The truth is hes a useful idiot selected by the French government to keep people like Macron in power.
Bruno answered my question in a clever indirect way. Bruno does like you. It is obvious. He finds your repetitive nature endearing. Among pumpkin person’s regular commentariat(by that I mean the illuminaticat 14 from this blog post https://pumpkinperson.com/2021/06/27/guest-post-by-illuminaticatblog-2/ sans Marsha because I havent read enough of her comments) he has the highest quality comments on average and is almost certainly the most intelligent. Ganzir may think that teffec is more intelligent than Bruno but the difference in quality and evinced intellect between Brunos top 5% best comments and teffec’s top 5% best comments is gargantuan. You are nowhere near Ganzirs intellectual level, let alone Teffecs let alone Brunos let alone mine. Bruno and especially I might as well be from a different superior species compared to you.
I admit that Bruno is smarter than I am. Not gonna be a wordcel like Mehdi Hasan, who accused Elon Musk of being “not very bright” because Musk has a type of intelligence not evinced by how he talks.
Who do you think is smarter? Musk or Gates?
Gates
Philo,
I like you. I haven’t been waging any war against you even if I have made midly some joke about you sometimes, mostly when solving IQ questions. I recognize your contribution is more substantive than mine. And I hope I stay objectively modest while appearing subjectively extremely arrogant. I have two pass : first the one you said, being French, second having read Ayn Rand theories against people asking for humility (cannibals for her !).
As for who asked me the question :
?~}`said:July 29, 2022 at 9:28 pm (see last sentence)
I remember all the conjecture on the philosophers IQ. Illuminaticat’s 140 estimate is old. In a more recent 2022 post he has implied that the philosopher is in the 125-140 range. I think that is correct. Pumpkin person has said that his full scale IQ is 125 with a huge discrepancy between his verbal and performance IQ. Jimmy said that he would be above 135 with supplements. Ganzir said that he is one standard deviation below Ganzir id est 135. I want to see Brunos estimate of the philosopher’s IQ.
There are many estimates yet the philosopher is determined to hide his intelligence test scores.
I want to repeat that I like you and there is no war.
Bruno, can I email you a very important question that Teffec suggested I use.
“You are nowhere near Ganzirs intellectual level, let alone Teffecs let alone Brunos let alone mine. Bruno and especially I might as well be from a different superior species compared to you.”
Youre retarded. And its not my opinion. You have so little understanding of what intelligence is, you can’t see most people would think Bruno and you and Ganzir would present as retards to the public.
Bruno’s own wife said he was Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory. Which means she has zero sexual attraction to him other than his physical stature. Ganzir didn’t know marriage involved sex. You have the social level of a 7 year old boy and get frustrated when people laugh at your weirdness and lack of real life accomplishment.
You think autism is actually intelligence….haha whatever.
Notice the way, non-autistic commenters here use it as a pejorative then. 90% of people use it as a pejorative. Its just not seen as being intelligent in a meaningful way. I’m sorry. You were probably bullied in school and clung to your deformed brain’s IQ score as some sort of proof that you didn’t deserve to be bullied.
You Bruno and Ganzir literally have huge chunks of the human mind missing. You get that right?
….The only person on that list you named that isn’t autistic is Teffec. Teffec is a smart cookie. And Its actually the opposite..Teffec presents way more intelligent than Bruno. Bruno can’t even write properly. He would barely pass a Turing Test.
Dealing with arrogant autists like this guy and Bruno is actually kind of adorable. They think they’re hot shit hahaha. I can recite Pi to 14000 digits but I can’t tell whether someone is happy or sad.
HAHAHAHAHA.
“Bruno and especially I might as well be from a different superior species compared to you.”
False. Nature decides. Not a stupid autist like you. On the socio-sexual hierarchy I am, or I suppose, was very attractive to women. I seriously doubt women find you attractive.
There are many black men that are more superior to you if you want to talk about evolution.
Bruno is superior to you by dint of his height, not the fact that hes an AI chatbot.
But youre not intelligent enough in the true sense to understand this.
I mean, you probably haven’t really noticed IQ scores don’t measure all types of intelligence. Just the analytical ones. But you are desperate to rescue your ego from being at the bottom of the social hierarchy youll cling to anything.
@Bruno
Pp’s IQ is around 135.
I am 6 foot 4, philosopher. You are a 5 foot 10 manlet that wears high heels in order to appear taller. I know that you attended some subaltern, lumpenproletarian ghetto school where the other children beat you up every day. I attended an elite private school where intellectual accomplishment was respected and no one every insulted any aspect of my personality. Schizophrenia is very often the corollary of extreme physical and psychological abuse at home and at school.
https://stormer-daily.rw/sesame-street-theme-park-sued-for-25-million-because-mascot-ignored-black-kids/
Haha! I never actually thought of blacks like this before. The author basically says if jews stopped riling up blacks and cajoling them to hate whitey, blacks don’t actually care about anything. I never thought of that before. He says it because blacks are just perpetually happy all the time because of the way their brains are. Hes probably right. You don’t see any black marxists, environmentalists, femnists, or on the other side, gun-nuts, conspiracy theorists or nationalists.
Blacks don’t have ideologies. Incredible. What an insight.
Blacks are huge conspiracy theorists
Simply not true. I’d say 99% of Alex Jones audience is non-black.
But blacks have their own conspiracy theorists who believe stuff like AIDS was created by the government to genocide them and that society is set up to make blacks fail. Professor Black Truth is an example of a black conspiracy theorist:
“But blacks have their own conspiracy theorists who believe stuff like AIDS was created by the government to genocide them . . .”
But virtually all of the initial HIV infections were in male homosexuals, and HIV is still largely confined to that population in the developed world. This reads like an admission on their part that homosexuality is rampant among black men.
I think this accounts for the black obsession with projecting a masculine image. The truly, naturally masculine don’t have to tell anyone that they’re Real Men ™.
I’ve lived in the South my entire life, so I’ve been surrounded by blacks since I was a kid. I’ve only known two black conspiracy theorists, and one of the two was a paranoid schizophrenic.
PP, where do you draw the line between conspiracy theorizing and generalized suspicion? Was Foucault a conspiracy theorist for asserting that medicine/the medical profession functions as an instrument of state power? I’m not trying to start an argument, just curious.
defamation of public figures requires much stronger evidence. the plaintiffs had become such.
jones was found guilty for supposedly failing to comply with discovery. he says he did.
his lawyer “accidentally (on purpose)” gives info to plaintiffs’ atts and then refuses to ask for it back when asked by same.
defamation requires either making injurious statements one knows to be false or to have shown “reckless disregard” for the truth of falsity of such statements. given that the sandyhook thing was a news story covered by all outlets there is no “reckless disregard” case that can be made. jones and any other commentator has the right to question official narratives of public events. this is an interest of democracy. they do not have the right to call private un-famous citizens chimos. it’s the same with europe’s absurd holocaust denial laws. by the jones precedent jews (holocaust survivors) could sue holocaust deniers for defamation. totally idiotic.
the only way jones could legitimately be found liable is if it were shown by a preponderance of the evidence that he knew what he was saying was false. and this is basically impossible to prove.
btw, alito is not solid on the 1st. he was the sole dissenting opinion in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snyder_v._Phelps.
of course pill, as a mossad agent, will say jews are especially civilized. but the opposite is the case. they don’t care about the spirit of the law. israel is way more corrupt than the US, let alone denmark. at best jews have a “shame culture” not a “guilt culture”. in reality they don’t have a culture. they are the destroyers of culture. theirs is an “anti-culture”.
Attacking a strawman version of me as usual. I never said jews were civilised. Was this a jury trial? Was he tried for defamation? I’ve not been following the trial that closely. If it was defamation then Jones has a good defence that he really did believe what he was saying. All he had to do was ask a psychiatrist to testify that Jones has mental health issues and it would have worked. He’s plainly mentally unstable and a borderline paranoid schizo.
yes. there was never a trial. he was found liable for (supposedly) refusing to cooperate with discovery…aka he (supposedly) refused to release some of his own documents.
jones and his atts are BANNED from making 1st amendment claims or any other claims that he is not liable.
the jury is solely tasked with determining how much he should pay.
…for the truth or falsity of such statements…
as with the vegas shooting, when the event can’t be explained, when the motive of the supposed perp is a total mystery, then…
one should be suspicious. being suspicious isn’t the same as disbelieving.
post-modernism = suspicion of all grand narratives, aka ideologies.
alex-jones-ism = suspicion of all official narratives, aka all narratives which serve political purposes…in the case of sandy hook gun control.
the tragedy for these parents was that their chirren were killed. NOT that alex jones defamed them. this is obvious to non-autists. it’s lawfare.
what parent says: “my child is dead…how can i make money out of it?”
answer: a shitty parent.
the alex jones lawsuit is like child life insurance…satanic.
He basically summoned a mob to make these people’s lives a misery. 1 of the families moved house 9 times because they kept being harassed by the mentally deranged people that listen to Alex aka you. Youre the autist if you think the victims are thinking about ways to get rich following the shooting idiot.
Pill, what do you make of the (in)famous video of Robbie Parker laughing and bullshitting around mere moments before giving a sobbing, tearful statement to CNN?
Half of the parents were on the news within 48 hours of the massacre making robotic, obviously scripted demands for stricter gun control laws.
I’m not saying that the shooting didn’t happen or that Lanza didn’t do it, just that something about the news coverage of the incident REEKED of psyops.
Yeah I saw that Parker video and it made me think a bit. But then it ultimately comes down to whether you think the authorities could pretend 26 people died. There were other students in the school who knew the victims or the rest of the town who would have debunked something massive like this.
Oh no, I agree that it was a real mass shooting and that Lanza was responsible. I’m not really positing a conspiracy here. Maybe the parents were approached and asked to propagandize for gun control legislation.
I wouldn’t have been able to toggle the waterworks on and off like that two days after my cat died. That a neurotypical could do right after his child died is unfathomable. You don’t have to believe that 9/11 was an inside job to see how the military-industrial complex leveraged it for profit.
the sandy hook incident (whatever it was) was reported the same by everyone except alex jones.
and he almost immediately retracted his claims.
jones has no other means of funding his enterprise than selling retarded supplements. the same goes for tucker carlson.
so to hate on him for this is effectively to say that advertisers (capitalists) should determine what the news is.
the retarded pill personality has already discredited itself by posting tyt videos.
ask your psychiatrist to ban it peepee.
and “reckless disregard” is like “reckless driving”.
the harassment that the plaintiffs claim to have suffered was not an obvious consequence of jones’s claims. and therefore his claims were not reckless.
the EVENT made the parents public figures instantly, and then some of them made themselves public figures.
He spread fake news.
He knew it was fake or didn’t care.
As a result the parents suffered enormously for years.
If that’s not libel, what is?
I actually feel sorry for Alex Jones not because he lost the case or that his reputation is shattered but because the man has serious mental health problems and isn’t getting treatment.
I was in a paranoid psychotic type craze for about 2 years and I can only say that theres a lot of suffering involved and the medications made it better.
Alex Jones will be reassured by conservatives and retards like Mugabe that he was right and that hes being persecuted for exposing the ‘Sandy-hoax shooting’ or whatever. The greatest thing another human being could do for Jones is get him some medication otherwise hes liable to keep pissing off people and eventually get involved in a violent encounter.
even if they did…(which you’d have to have autism to believe)
“as a result” doesn’t matter peepee.
it has to be “as a foreseeable result for a ‘reasonable man'”…
is this too hard for your tiny female brain?
It was TOTALLY foreseeable given the size and craziness of his audience. He’s telling millions of gun nuts, “these people are the enemy. They’re so evil they faked the death of their own children to take away your right to defend your family”. He put a target on their backs.
the harassment that the plaintiffs claim to have suffered was not an obvious consequence of jones’s claims
Of course it was. When you tell millions of gun nuts that they are committing a malicious fraud to take away their guns, it’s foreseeable that one of those nuts will go after them.
it has to be forseeable FOR jones peepee.
NOT for YOU!
capiche?
(pill is correct that jones might’ve claimed insanity. but insanity defenses almost always lose…because cray pipo usually aren’t actually THAT cray cray.)
Actually it doesn’t have to be foreseeable at all. As long as there are damages caused by a knowingly or recklessly false statement, you’re liable.
Jones is a retard, but this outcome sucks.
This is going to be the next Charlottesville, another “precedent” for “cracking down on hate” that will be repeated ad nauseum in the Respectable Press for all eternity. Facebook, Twitter, et al. will probably get even shittier.
It also creates an incentive for prospective plaintiffs to attack people for saying things they don’t like.
Yeah its worrying from that point of view. I can imagine someone saying we have a jewish overclass in their podcasts and some jews getting harrassed and then suing the guy that said jews treat us like cattle.
But maybe a different judge or jury would change things.
and then suing the guy that said jews treat us like cattle.
That’s clearly a statement of opinion which is constitutionally protected
I wouldn’t trust a lot of judges, let alone most juries, to make that kind of distinction.
And a liberal judge could easily hallucinate a new premise to justify throwing the book at a racist or anti-semite: “Statements like this that so recklessly attack the moral fabric of our society show a obvious disregard for the truth and their harmful consequences.”
Well biased or incompetent people will always cause problems, but do you want to live in a society where there’s no protection against libel?
It’s also unlikely that racist or antisemitic statements would ever be treated as libel because, at least according to this source, you can’t defame a large group of people.
https://www.minclaw.com/legal-resource-center/what-is-defamation/defamation-groups-members/
I have no problem with our current libel and defamation laws as they’re written.
Jones probably did defame the plaintiffs in the suit, but I don’t think he caused several million dollars worth of damage.
I was more just making a statement about some of the possible effects of the ruling, which i think are mostly pretty bad.
merely making false injurious statements…
!=…does NOT equal..
defamation.
capiche?
because the judge in the jones trial obviously doesn’t capiche. stupid woman.
I would run circles around you on the LSAT:
To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/defamation
the point is that the claim “jesus is God” doesn’t mean what peepee thinks it means…
AND that such a figure as jesus is an inevitable figure.
AND…
what peepee really doesn’t get is…
all of these credal/dogmatic “propositions” are “formal”…
FORMAL!
they are totally open to interpretation.
formalism is a small minority among mathematicians, but the confederate edward nelson was a self-identified christian and formalist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Nelson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formalism_(philosophy_of_mathematics)
You and Charles Murray sure do love yourself some Christianity.
osho is a PROVED satanist.
the reality for math majors who aren’t so autistic as to become professors of mathematics at princteon (the mount everest of math) is…
they’re all right!
platonism, formalism, intuitionism, etc…
this is just because in reality…being good at math doesn’t make you good at philosophy…
genuine philosophy (no true scotsman) is the most pure g…if g exists…
heidegger is ashamed of terry tao.
but so is lao tsu.
In fact, some say and I was told by IQ 170 person general intelligence is the perception of negative space. But I add more. Trees grow into negative space. This is the way to not forget what you are doing. Planning and operationalizing. In all directions. But functionally my tree growth is slow in some areas. For instance drawing. Or just mental quickness. I dropped 10 iq points fullscale. I only come out if I feel that buzz when people are normal. like to read a book or not. If I can resist the ADD.
the various “philosophies of mathematics”…
…platonism, formalism, intuitionism, etc…
they’re all the same!
48hours parents on the news?
how many weeks/months did jones say false flag?
jones made it possible to find the victims by naming / labeling them as actors. but only because of mainstreem news streaming content unassociated with jones.
the ULTIMATE reason why pol pot, stalin, hitler, et al is…
ATHEISM.
FACT!
forgive pipo for he has sinned and autistic
richard simmons sued someone for claiming he was “transitioning”.
the suit was thrown out because “transitioning is totally cool.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/richard-simmons-ordered-pay-130-000-after-transgender-lawsuit-n855936
i agree that rr is a great example of why there need to be concentration camps.
rr must also be banned because self-admitted s italian.
Because I am ADD I can only compare myself by the medium of that impairment to others. at first, I was 113 FSIQ now it’s 103. The Philosopher I predict is 120 because master’s degrees usually have such degrees but because of his schizophrenia, it is down to 115. He is set in arguments 12 point higher than me, the normal IQ deviation.
my processing speed is 34 points below my Verble I talk extremely slowly when details are necessary. It is hard to decide. The philosopher tends to pass information quickly in his system making analyzing possible or at least coming to conclusions.
I am not totally lost in speed. I think faster than analyzing which is a source of creativity. I just have ideas ready to go. I’m not right I am creative. It seems random because it is not apparent how it was put together but when tested makes sense. Mugabe is super creative but relies on instinct all the time linking things, There is no real narrative just synergy.
I bring out what comes from the inside. So does Philosopher. Mugabe sees links.
Pills IQ is not high. I would say 110 verbal and pretty low spatial. first of all he has schizophrenia which deteriorates ones cognitive functioning by quite a bit. secondly he uses circular logic to support his points.
he doesnt speak incredible english or anything and he doesnt have good comprehension of what is written or spoken to him. he might have a 125 social IQ and only that because he understands the basics of socializing and is very blackpilled but doesnt understand the nuances of the situations.
he cant understand how things can be one thing at one point and another entirely different thing in another point. poor cognitive flexibility.
and not only does he not take criticism well he seems to lash out at people with opposing views or derogatory analyses of who he is.
this means that Pill might have had the potential to be much smarter had it not been for schizophrenia but right now he is just about my potential on things which is not great but if he uses his personality ambitions etc. forward to leverage him he can share some insightful things no doubt.
LOL. Whereas the autism clowns are adorable in a kind of bizarre way. The low IQ clown is adorable in a straightforward manner.
By calling Loaded low IQ you call yourself low IQ, you pathetic trained circus animal. Loaded has scores above 130(SD 15) on the wonderlic test. You have a 125 (SD 15) score on some mandatory mathematical exam. You are afraid of revealing any further information because you know it would extirpate the few shreds of credibility you have left.
If you like Teffec so much why don’t you reveal your score on his test?
You are a pathological liar but pumpkin person might have some way of determining which score is yours.
Pill you fruitcake you never even told me why you think i am low IQ! at least give me some insight for once into the manner instead of dodging the question entirely!
i really think i have a higher IQ than you Pill. not by much and probably not in every category but youre a schiz dude your IQ is bound to be low!
Never call me a liar ever again fuckface.
I have never lied on this blog. Never. I tell the truth. If I think a person has a higher IQ than me then I will say it. But saying a person is more intelligent than me is not the same as having a higher IQ than me. Rain Man has a higher IQ than me. Or you. But he’s not intelligent.
I never said I like Teffec. All I said was that his comments are more evidence of intelligence than Bruno or you or Ganzir. And that he doesn’t have autism.
The math exam is a mandatory exam in my country after 2 years of preparation. As I said, I find math boring so only did 3 weeks of preparation with my country’s Math Olympiad representative. I would have failed otherwise. To be honest I don’t think you could assess my math IQ with the result I got.
Philo, Langan speaks (amusingly) about people in the dangerous zone of 145-155 IQ (where some commenters you have mentioned or Lion are dwelling).
I am glad to tell you you are extremely far away from this dangerous place and you can feel very safe 😂
So do I btw …
you fucking clown stop mocking other people and just respond to my simple questions. you cowardly fruitcake. why do you think i have a low IQ? i am smarter than you Pill. just admit it!
I just love this blog’s comment section. So vivid! And I do think we’re all basically good people.
Bruno, do you mean that you’re way above 155 IQ?
peepee: so you’re saying christians have repeated a bunch of bullshit for 2,000 years and still have no idea what it means?
mugabe: BINGO!
If you don’t believe in consciousness you believe in nothing.
How do we reconcile life after death without it?
Forever will he grant life of the spirit to those with faith.
The consequence is that strict liability for defamation is unconstitutional in the United States; the plaintiff must be able to show that the defendant acted negligently or with an even higher level of mens rea. In many other common law countries, strict liability for defamation is still the rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertz_v._Robert_Welch%2C_Inc.
The core concept of negligence is that people should exercise reasonable care in their actions, by taking account of the potential harm that they might foreseeably cause to other people or property.[3]
My source might have been wrong to exclude foreseeability as a criteria for libel, but one could still make a strong case that it was foreseeable that the parents would be harassed.
PP Dear You are still not taking caffeine pills are you? I posted a study explaining the ills of taking them.
do you consider yourself an indian nationalist? indians are so irrationally jingoistic its just bizarre and not healthy!
not more than pakistanis.
no Indians are way more jingoistic than Pakistanis. are you stupider than i thought you were?
No. Pakistanis are way more jingoistic. Example: Always obsessed with Kashmir. And they allow dictators to take over. Easy for dictators to take over nationalistic people. You are too stupid to realize this.
okay fair enough but that might just be contributory from the fact that india is more divided and diverse and pakistan being a lot less so.
when i went to pakistan oh so many years back like 15 or so i realized that pakistanis were actually quite separated by ethnic lines too like Baloch Sindh Pathan Punjab etc.
If you wanted to boost your place in the socio-sexual hierarchy, the answer isn’t to tell women your IQ score. The answer is to go to the gym. Nature desires human beings to be athletic and physically robust. When I worked out, I was far more attractive to women. I’ve been on medication for years so I have no libido and therefore, no desire to look good anymore.
So far as I can see, it doesn’t really care about IQ, other than social IQ or demonstrative creativity. Blacks are like a cartoonish advert for what nature desires. Many people in the high IQ community would be aghast at that. You might even call them racist!
Its true Puppy. Civilisation selected for IQ. Not the sexual market. Civilisation is a distortion in the sexual market.
Freud said this first in one of his essays. Basically unattractive men used religion to abolish polygamy and force women to select IQ over testosterone.
That’s retarded. If anything polygamy increased IQ because rich powerful men could father dozens of babies.
PP, you wrote this, didn’t you?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362420634_Linguistic_Intelligence_A_Break_Down_of_24-hour_Daily_Activities_for_a_Person_with_High_Levels_of_Linguistic_Intelligence
people around the world bite my style and think i dont notice they got it all wrong. most people on this blog simply dont understand the outside world.
for example if Ganzir didnt have normal parents and was tormented in this world as much as Anime was he would be one of the socially dumbest people on this forum. he is coddled is what im trying to say.