The TAVIS has now been taken at least 358 times (excluding people who clicked on the link but didn’t submit, or who submitted their answers without attempting any questions, or who answered only one question (a hard one) because they were likely trying to confirm if a guess was right).
Below are the 358 scores that are likely legit (though it’s possible the highest scores are from people involved in the above mentioned monkey business).
2,3,4,4,5,5,5,5,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,9,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,10,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,11,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,13,14,14,14,14,14,14,14,14,14,14,14,14,15,15,15,15,15,15,15,16,16,16,16,16,17,17,17,17,18,18,18,18,19
Since the first norming, the mean and SD have both increased slightly (they’re now 9.98 and 2.62 respectively) and the distribution has become more bell shaped:
There are more people with extreme scores than a perfectly normal distribution would predict, especially at the high end. It’s unclear why this is but several possibilities come to mind:
- The test items did not increase in difficulty in a sufficiently linear way.
- A bias in the sampling
- Some of the people tested are not part of the biologically normal population
- Monkey business
To normalize the distribution, each raw score was converted into a percentile rank which in turn was converted to the expected IQ on a perfectly normal curve. But because research suggests my average reader is two standard deviations smarter than the average American, 30 IQ points were then added.
These norms look plausible at the high end but seem too generous at the very low end. Future normings will use equipercentile equating with self-reported SATs, ACTs and Wechsler IQs to see if that gives different results.
Pumpkin Person 
Pepe can you Rasch score the items and/or send me the raw item x person data so I can Rasch them for you?
I’ll see what I can do
and you might actually enjoy it…you never know… — jordan peterson (probably from Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland by chrostopher browning.
mugabe: why does an apple fall from its tree?
dawkins: because gravity.
mugabe: why gravity?
dawkins: error. error. because gravity.
mugabe: so you are like gary leon ridgway?
dawkins: who’s that?
mugabe: he was a prolific american serial killer who when asked, “why? why did you kill all these young women?” all he said was, “because that.”
so-called brute facts contradict the principle of sufficient reason and therefore cannot exist.
currently watching “the Greatest Story Ever Told.” if Mug really wants to ignite his beliefs in God again I would recommend watching that first.
the word “God” is formally an ordinary noun, and so retards like dawkins treat its use as they treat the use of NPs like “flying spaghetti mosnter”.
in reality “God” is an example of “deixis”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deixis
example: humanity is outside a castle. a high castle. it can see its walls. it can’t see inside.
“God” is a way of saying “what’s inside castle”, “what’s over there”.
Allah is what the best hindus call Brahman what heidegger called Sein.
good for you LOADED, but…
i totally admit that christianity is the most absurd, ridiculous, unbelievable major religion.
the early christian tertullian (who has yet to be canonized) claimed this was actually proof that it must be true…
no one could have made it up.
natural science seeks to make all phenomena deducible from basic laws. and natscis like dawkins insist that all phenomena are generated in this way, by following laws. this is the mathematicization, euclid-ization of all phenomena.
The Münchhausen trilemma is that there are only three ways of completing a proof:
The circular argument, in which the proof of some proposition presupposes the truth of that very proposition
The regressive argument, in which each proof requires a further proof, ad infinitum
The dogmatic argument, which rests on accepted precepts which are merely asserted rather than defended
The trilemma, then, is the decision among the three equally unsatisfying options.
The dogmatic argument, which rests on accepted precepts which are merely asserted rather than defended is in fact what mathematicians do. all mathematical theories per se follow from axioms which need only be consistent. they are not true or false in the phenomenal sense. thus non-euclidean geometry for example.
so what are the axioms of the universe and why are they not arbitrary and who or what breathed fire into them? why is there something rather than nothing? why is the something that we experience not something else?
natsci has no answer to these questions. just like it has no explanation for consciousness. and it never will have, because it is by definition impossible for natsci to have such.
Should send it to Chris Langan. He has social media.
putin is not an ugly man OR a pretty man in the face…even though he looks more and more chinese…
he’s an afalete. a judo black belt.
but he’s short…like really short…
why is it…
ugly women know they’re ugly.
ugly men don’t.
?
sad.
the black supremacists say:
see!
wypipo hate hate wypipo too!
indeed!
russians have never been fully accorded wypipo status.
…
i hate wypipo too.
I retook it! I took it again at work and scored an 18. It was a joke please remove one. Tee hee.
Some people could be retaking.
In all seriousness, I think it’s a bimodal test in the sense that the first eight or so questions are gimmes for anyone with a pulse, and then jump to Promethean or even trans promethean difficulty. There is not a smooth grading of smarter people between the ultra high and high levels. Somebody with 14 to 16 is probably ultra high IQ, but the lower scores are all over the place. That raises the question of what’s the point of the lower end questions.
There were a few (several may be more apt) questions between those two difficulty tiers, IIRC.
Yeah, like maybe two at the most. Even those were harder than your difficult sat items, I would think.
almost everyone is in it for themselves. always trying to gain the upper-hand. people jockeying and levying for power. its a sick world.
yes i may be a martyr but i am not a megalomaniacal one. i stick to my guns and i play them well and to go out of your way to say something like that shows great impairment in overall morality. sickening.
for example retards like dawkins make fun of people for saying “therefore God” or “because God”.
but what they’re really saying is what ridgway said…
“because that.”
so you see that dawkins is a theist. and atheism isn’t a thing. it’s just a category mistake like, “the square root of my dog is pi.” true or false? answer: neither. the statement is meaningless.
RT is still streaming on odysee.
one doc they had was about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731.
to this day japan has not been “converged” or de-nazi-fied. the japanese are still nazis.
not neo-nazis. old school nazis.
and yet on jews like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Rogoff will say, “japan needs more immigration because economy.”
In actual fact, the economy would get worse with more immigration. All the gains would go to the 1% and the japanese aren’t very fond of redistribution at all either.
1. in jesus’s own time judaism was a proselytizing religion. or so says the NT. maybe the only one. in that region. the med.
2. and this religion was rabbinic judaism. the dudes called “pharisees” in the NT were the OG rabbis.
3. one reason why jews don’t seek converts and why they are cold to would be converts is not just down to racism. it’s because…under christianity and later under islam such was a crime formally.
4. but jews haven’t changed. have they?
judaism would be a much more respectable religion if it sought and was open to converts.
what percentage of the norming sample has English as first language?
(Also, what is the average of the non-native speakers, if you dont mind telling)
I just slept 36 hours (thanks to medication) and i feel terrible. Have tried the usual things to gee myself up.
Notice the way anime answers questions in very technical language. Classic sign of advanced autism. I should be anime’s psychiatrist. Not the loser he has now taking his money.
While anime can be very oblivious to how weird he seems, some would argue you’re a better fit for the classic autism profile of impaired social functioning + obsessive behavior.
IMPAIRED SOCIAL FUNCTIONING: can’t hold a job, politically incorrect opinions, only showers once a month, continues parody posting long after Lion told you it wasn’t funny
OBSESSIVE REPETIVE BEHAVIOR: talks endlessly about Jews (90% gets moderated), talks endlessly about autism, obsesses endlessly about gay sex (gets moderated)
On the other hand, your use of humour and the social and imaginative nature of your obsessions is not consistent with the stereotypical autistic but then Paul Coojman said aspergoids are imaginative & sadistic (which you also are), but then Coojman also doubted aspergers was on the autism spectrum
Objectively you meet the two major autism criteria (impaired social function & obsessive repetitive behavior) but subjectively you don’t display the stereotypical autistic personality.
My guess is you have autism + psychopathy. The psychopathic traits allow you to think conspiratorially and identify the vulnerable (other autistics) and allows for a superficial charm & humour that masks your autism long enough to get hired, but once on the job, your autism gets revealed and you consistently get fired.
I should be your psychiatrist, not that loser you have now taking your money.
Puppy you dont believe I have autism. Admit it.
you seriously might. not showering for weeks shows some major social impairment.
You realise before running water in the 20th century the vast majority of humans nevered really washed right?
Social IQ is your ability to adapt to the social environment you’re actually in at the time that you’re in it.
Puppy is also massively autistic. He actually typed out all the scores of 350 odd people in the blog post LOL. So sad.
LOL! I copied & pasted them you dumbass!
Foo Fighters drummer is dead. He was a good drummer.
Basically the more open a country is to redistribution the better chance it has of being a 1st world country. The obvious exception is America but if you account for american and european living standards correctly, you will see americans are poorer than western europeans.
Neoliberal economists love gloating about how america is richer than the welfare states of europe and as usual they’re fucking wrong.
If I worked for Goldman Sachs would I be a hypocrite? The answer is no puppy.
The interesting economic situation in China is another example. If China continues basically pursuing apartheid economically against its rural inhabitants it won’t become a first world country. It will be continually reliant on american demand. Hopefully China’s leaders really do believe in communism to some extent and build out a safety net for the peasents. China could become even wealthier than Japan if its open to helping its peasents.
If putin wanted to solve russia’s problem with NATO pushing against his borders, he should basically call Robert Rubin, not Joe Biden. What the fuck is Joe Biden going to say? The jews were very pissed off with Putin for seizing control from the oligarchs after they looted russia in the 90s.
just like pre stalin bolshevism and european communism was before it.
whether it’s G or E doesn’t matter. there is a jewish will to dominate. it’s real.
peepee supports affirmative action for negresses and other UNDER-represented minorities but she opposes limiting the OVER-representation of certain minorities, because…peepee is a mossad agent who hates wypipo.
Mug of Pee is a Mossad agent who hates chypipo.
you can see here it depends on how median income is calculated whether scandis make more than americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income
but here you can see les etats unis merdeux is way down the list for median wealth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult#By_country
if considered for european americans only it wouldn’t be much higher.
for example, the US incarceration rate for whites is higher than that of any european country.
A lot of scandanavian people’s wealth is ‘off balance sheet’ in the form of guarantees and the welfare state. Americans are much poorer than Scandinavians.
you mean how social security in america is nothing compared to europe’s pensions?
true.
but those figures are supposed to include some govt benefits iiuc.
what phil doesn’t get is america vs western europe is apples and oranges.
that is, one reason why americans distrust their govt is because in america govt is the “employer of last resort” and thus it sucks because it’s staffed by retards and wine mom lesbians.
very not like europe and japan where govt employment is esteemed by its best students.
and apples and oranges because the US is not a nation state. it’s just a state. an economic zone. americans don’t care about other americans…at all!
so let’s quit the abstract talk about redistribution vs none!
iceland is a small homogeneous rich country with almost 100% union membership.
if it’s not icelandic it’s crap!
seriously?
no!
it has been my personal experience that chinapeople are boring. and retarded.
would you rather have dinner with a dirt poor s indian who looks like the pm of the solomon islands or with a rural chinese?
asnwer: the melanesian looking dravidian for sure.
indians can think.
chinapeople can’t.
this is 4,000 years of history peepee!
what is the classical chinese corpus in comparison to the sanskrit corpus?
answer: it’s shit!
https://d2t3awir4hhcxt.cloudfront.net/images/news/7ff262b1-296c-4ab9-81f9-a85a8448ebc3_big.pjpg
yesss!
i’m sorry to break it to peepee and to myself but those land whale wypipo/white trash you see…
if you actually talked to them you’d find…
they’re a lot smarter than chinapeople in some ways.
the above is much more profound than even peterson knows.
the nazi phenomenon is part of european history, the history of europeans.
the nazis weren’t space aliens.
they were us.
who’s us?
NATO.
the west.
not peepee sadly.
even though she is 0.25% german.
dr phil’s moustache: what’s happening? i’m under attack.
tom selleck’s moustache: thasss right bitch! my hypersonic missiles have made you look thin and un-juicy…from now on i’m the president.
mugabe: but you can’t even survive outside of dr phil’s or tom selleck’s face…
dr phil’s and tom selleck’s moustaches together: put that guy in with the january 6th people!
i remember when i was a little girl seeing my dad put iodine on his scalp, in his hair because dandruff.
how bizarre?
i also remember he had to change clothes if he had any stain however small from eating.
it’s totally GROSS and DISGUSTING.
but client-facing lawyering requires…
you don’t have to be good looking, but…
you have to be…
IMMACULATE.
in retrospect i feel sorry for my dad.
i remember when i was a little girl our house caught on fire…
lesbians are LARPing!
jeanne d’arc is THE great woman of history.
and she was burned at the stake for being bat shit crazy!
sad.
i mean, before peepee figured out she was a lesbian.
Well thats what Jada Pinkett Smith demanded all those years ago. Oscars for blacks and her husband gets one. The academy should press charges against her for extortion. Shameful and the lowest point in the oscars history. So bad.
So weve had affirmative action for president, the supreme court, Harvard and now the Oscars. Jesus Christ, if you are black and have an IQ over 100, the world is your oyster baby!
Only in the last couple decades or so has there been any black privilege worth mentioning and it’s largely to makeup for all that time when the world was your oyster if you were white and not retarded. However, as Lion has noted, it’s only because people deny HBD that millions are convinced we live in a society so racist, tons of affirmative action is needed.
A selection of the best incorrect answers would be interesting to see.
it’s funny how men may think American Gigolo is just a male fantasy and this sort of thing doesn’t exist.
in reality it exists but is much less formal and very small and very secretive.
it’s more like Midnight Cowboy.
with plausible deniability.
meaning dudes are easy and women can lie to themselves and think they aren’t johns.
one yuge difference between men and women is women are as horny as they are good looking generally. so it’s easy for the men to deny they’re whoring.
lots of lonely middle aged but still attractive women with money will pay for a good looking younger man to fuck them.
it’s a minority. but it’s real.
« it’s only because people deny HBD that millions are convinced we live in a society so racist, tons of affirmative action is needed. »
Pumpkin, I agree with the first consequence but not necessarily with the second one. HBD could decide society to make affirmative action permanent if it wants diversity in University and top jobs despite the 1 sd gap. It depends on society value. Same thing for kids with disabilities : one could decide to diminish or to increase means available to them for their education.
There are 2 plausible explanations for the huge socio-economic inequality between blacks and whites:
1) antiblack racism
2) HBD
Since not even conservatives are willing to argue the second explanation, no wonder so many people embrace wokeness.
I got this and I agree.
My point is that even if everyone would embrace HBD, it wouldn’t by itself justify ending affirmative action, because depending on society values, it could even make it a permanent feature instead of an alleged transitory one (as presented by Sandra O Connor in 2003 Scotus decision for AA in University admission, “in 25 years it won’t be necessary”) .
peepee is still supporting black privilege despite the black oscars.
because?
peepee is black and she hates wypipo.
will smith needs to go back to africa.
Mug of Pee hates Chypipo.
If it was up to Puppy all the oscars would be only for blacks (even the technical ones) and the non blacks would have to compete for the razzies.
After about 10 years the razzies would become more prestigious than the black oscars and jada smith would call for the razzies to be made black thus starting the cycle again.
No if it were up to me the most talented people would win every year. Politicizing the Oscars is repugnant to me.
Do you believe in AA for universities and jobs?
I believe in minority outreach but not lowering standards to fill a quota
So if an equally qualified black person and white gentile person go for a job in an investment bank, would you give it to the black person solely on the basis of ‘minority outreach’.
And why does that category even exist in your mind anyway?
Minority outreach just means you have to make an effort to recruit from underrepresented groups. You don’t actually have to hire them. But I would not require it from investment banks unless they took a government bail out.
Why should the government represent the interests of the minority more than the majority? In what way is that more ethical to you?
Because otherwise you have mob rule.
Thank you Puppy for confirming that the jewish line of reasoning dominates your thoughts around what is ethical.
Jews have nothing to do with it. It’s in the constitution. Because you don’t know anything, it’s very easy for you to assume everything is because Jews. If I was a slave to Jews, why would I support Palestinians, oppose U.S. Middle East policy and believe in HBD? You’re a one trick pony. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
You think minorities deserve to be treated better than majorities. Boy I wonder where you got that line of thinking from. Heh Heh.
Maybe from the fact that I am a minority myself you FUCKING IDIOT!
You have terrible ethics.
It would be funny interviewing an east asian or something and asking him what he thinks of whites fetish for black empowerment. Its really weird.
Are sociology academics the dumbest academics or is it just Steve Sailer making me think that by highlighting the dumbest screeds by them?
Combination of both. Sociologists routinely score lower than other disciplines, even lower than psychology, but Sailer also has a vested interest in nitpicking because they also consistently produce research that does not align with his political beliefs.
they are.
so if jews were so much smarter they should be less common among sociology professors more common among physics professors?
but this isn’t the case.
of all the academic departments jews are most over-represented in economics, sociology, and law.
I’m too lazy to research it but it would be good if someone did a study confirming once and for all whether the median household in America has a lower standard of living than a western european one.
A good few rules of thumb:
1. Whether either of the households can get by with just 1 breadwinner
2. Number of cars the house owns
3. Number of hours worked
On the other hand I expect America’s rich to be richer than Europeans but if Piketty is right (and me in a way) then their fortunes are underreported/hidden.
pill is exactly like the substitute parent I had (Leornd). 125-140 IQ people are psychopathic. Leonard was 125 IQ.
The reason is that below 125 success and ruthlessness fail to correlate. You can get what you want but either you have to play dumb which the below 125 IQ person is or you are ruthless but this does not lead to success. To both be smart and be ruthless you neither play dumb nor do you fail.
Leonard was psychopathic like pill. He looked at me funny. I wondered why he did not like me. In the back of my mind, I knew he was not right. He never saw me as equal. Because I was not ruthless. A weakness.
Dany also had those eyes. Dragon eyes. But he never saw me as a weakling. He was 145.
Poor social judgment is not a sign of autism pp, autism is a neurological disorder. Aspergers is based on poor social judgment. It is what my brother has. Its extreme maleness, logic, obsessed with things rather than people.
pill is deteriorated by schizo symptoms. He is obsessed but not with things. Schizos have poor social judgments for reasons other than Aspies.
schizos base social judgment on hallucinations/delusions. (not logic)
Rember that premise of schizo is being unable to tell what is real or not.
aspies logic does not follow reality entirely either and is just as made up.
Extreme maleness & logic are just popular stereotypes but they’re not the CORE definition of autism .According to the current DSM-5 criteria, only two core features make up an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) diagnosis: (1) persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across multiple contexts; and (2) restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities (Lai et al., 2014)
Pill definitely has the second feature. He also has SERIOUS impairment in social interaction (fired 13 times, doesn’t shower for weeks, super politically incorrect) but ACTIVE social communication skills (humour, sarcasm, rhetorical skills) are above average in my opinion. But his RECEPTIVE social communication skills are impaired. He thinks I support minority rights because I’ve been brainwashed by Jews when any normal person would realize it’s because I’m a minority myself.
Overall I’d say he suffers from mild autism.
Just focusing on Pill’s worldview, he strikes me as more schizophrenic than autistic in his thinking. Schizophrenics must have a deficiency in whatever system of the brain is responsible for the process of suppressing the perception of motives as being behind things, notably when it’s socially and emotionally dangerous to notice them because they’re real. It’s refreshing since it means they effortlessly see through conspiracies. I generally agree with much of his worldview, at a cursory glance at least, but probably for less instinctual reasons.
I do wonder what you get for entertaining his constant verbal abuse though.
pill is clinically diagnosed with schizophrenia. It makes sense in context to ascribe his social deficits to the symptoms of his psychotic breaks. and deterioration.
I lived with an aspie for many years, my brother and being psychotic myself understand that there is a difference between aspies and psychotics that is hard to grasp on being one side or the other.
if there is no schizo aspie difference fine what have such differences in the DSM if they don’t exist???
The biggest sign is the deterioration of the cortex. in schizos.
The cortex is thinker in aspies.
can cortical thickness be determined in pills case?
Pumpkin i cant believe you sympathize with autists that much. maybe you say on paper that you dislike autists but it is inherent in your nature to promote the interests of autists.
it would surprise me if you broke out of this and started treating them like grown adults rather than overgrown kids you need to watch over.
PP, I think you should include PATMA in your next norming since it has a very high correlation with IQ.
yeah so an autist can benefit from a math score. autists are so dumb.
most autists have pretty shit intellectual performances. not worth having one autistic genius for every thousand that can barely speak.
Well, math is highly correlated to both verbal IQ and global IQ due to its abstractness, which is similar to language. Autistic people who can barely speak probably can’t even figure out how to feed themselves.
Hey PP,
Assuming the average reader has an IQ of 130, do we simply add 30 IQ points to each PPIQ level, or would we extrapolate based on rarity?
For instance:
A score of 17 is about 25 times as rare a s a score of 10 (ostensibly IQ 132). Would a score of 17 not then equate to 1/61 * 1/25 = 1/1,525 (148 IQ)?
The results of that method seem way more plausible.
It depends what assumptions you make about the IQ distribution of the test taking population, but once I do my third norming based on score pairing with external tests (which is independent of such assumptions) we’ll know which is correct.
By the first method, someone in the 95th percentile of the Mega Society would have an IQ we’d expect to see only once in like 25 generations. Of course there is major range restriction going on there, but do you think it’s reasonable to assume that your audience has as wide of a distribution as the general population?
In some groups you are closer to just cutting a slice of the bell curve (like police or army recruitment) in other you move the bell (like ethnic group differences in IQ) and in this latter case the differences are much more dramatic because you keep the same as in the general population as you said.
For example I remember Jensen said average IQ of Mensa peopole was around 140. It would be expected to be 135 with your slice method (1/2 * 1/50). And 141 with the latter (1/2 add 11 points). So for Mensa, it looks like the cut-off moves the Bell curve entirely at least not far from its median value.
average IQ of Mensa peopole was around 140
Intuitively I doubt that. Maybe in its early days – but members of these societies who admit people on one (usually the applicant’s highest) score have “true scores” decently below the cutoff. Where does the +11 in the latter formula come from knowing only that the cutoff is 130 and that the theoretical average would be 135?
Pepe, what is the expected I.Q. of someone who completes a Ph.D. in political science?
probably the same as PhDs in general. 120-125