What follow’s is a guest post written by Ganzir, only lightly edited by Pumpkin Person:
You are invited to participate in Ganzir’s research by taking a survey. You will read a description of a disease’s symptoms, then rank each of 12 different descriptions of personality traits according to how much they resemble those symptoms. This quiz has no right or wrong answers. You shouldn’t see a score or a pass/fail message, but if you do, it’s an artifact, not part of the survey. Your answers will be manually transcribed into my statistical records. If you intend to take this survey, do not read the comments on this post before you do.
Once I have enough responses, I will post an analysis of the results on my blog at ganzir.info. I will release my first report on it once I have 25 responses or at the end of March, whichever comes first: Link to the survey
William Owlson said:
Schizophrenia is excessive neuroticism. easy to tell.
ALL great scientists have been believers of one kind or another. ALL. said:
does richard dawkins have any idea how utterly cringe he is. he literally sounds like an actor playing a demon.
maybe if he didn’t utterly suck as a scientist he wouldn’t be trying to start a religion.
atheism is, without exception, the religion of stupid people who think dey is like smart n sheeeit.
This is why the empirical results on the correlation between atheism and high functioning autism are important…
…some people were angry that I seemed to suggest that atheists were antisocial weirdos. Well, there is some data to back that up…
https://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_autism
William Owlson said:
you missed the point. but also as regards to the topic of atheism yeah a lot of believers are scientifically-renowned but the way it emerges is a non-factor. literally does not matter if someone believes in God the existence of God’s existence would be and is independent of our beliefs (if (H)e exists).
for example i dont believe in God. I may be an optimist but i think it would do more harm than good to have a superior entity exist or have eternal life. i can find you various reasonings for my beliefs such as God displacing the actions of mankind as his etc. that would burden the individual more than it would help.
anyways thats missing your point! the point is that regular people believe in God well known people in God but thats for a reason! theres probably a death anxiety or something happening here. Religion is the biggest coping mechanism for many people so this would make sense that people believe in God for one reason or another and there is no specific trend happening of science proving God exists.
that's how good the sex is! said:
i apologize.
$150,000 CAD is my base fee.
there’s an extra $50,000 CAD for midgets.
and an extra $10,000 CAD for squaws.
so that’s an extra $60,000 CAD for squa(w)t-ches.
sad.
William Owlson said:
If you postin’ on the internet, it can’t be that real
Walk with me, I’ma show you what these niggas really is
Just listen, say a nigga got bodies, but who the hell they killed? (Hell they killed?)
And they really tired of seeing they homies’ mommas sheddin’ tears (Sheddin’ tears)
Tuxedos, all slacks, them niggas used to that (Used to that)
Hearse, all black, them niggas used to that (Used to that)
They get off first, we send ’em back, and make your dawg carry
They claim they’re killers, in their hearts, they know they’re pallbearers
Pallbearers (They is), pallbearers (It’s what they is)
We gon’ make them niggas used to bein’ pallbearers (Yeah)
Pallbearers (Yeah), pallbearers (Yeah, yeah)
Gon’ drop your brother, put him in a hearse, you bitches pallbearers
William Owlson said:
Schizophrenia is neuroticism where all your paranoias start to take over your mind starts to focus in on these paranoias without distinguishment and with excessive compulsion.
OCD is as linked to schizophrenia in my observation as it is to autism probably why some people can have both.
Name said:
PP, When I was reading about who is the smartest ethnicity on another site, I found this:
“” Broadly speaking, the Celto-Germanic ethnicity group of northwestern europe, which is composed by Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Northern Italy, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Great Britain and Ireland. It also includes most of the white population of United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
This race is responsible for the most of scientific accomplishment in world history, especially for the last 500 years, and managed to produce the most advanced civilization ever.
On a more specific way, i would say that Scottish people are historically the most accomplished, according to the book of Human Accomplishment of Charles Murray, which covers the period of 800 B.C. to 1950. Scotland have 54 of the most important scientists for a population of 5 million, compared to the Jews who have 89 scientists for a population of 16 million and England who have 215 scientists for a population of 38 million.
Scottish — 10.8 per million
English — 5.7 per million
Jewish — 5.6 per million””
What is your opinion on this pp?
Neandercel said:
What is the principal characteristic of neurotypical thinking? Avoidance of truth in matters not directly related to one’s own practical endeavors.
Suppose your co-worker tells you that his child is struggling in school. If this is all you know, the most probable explanation is that the child is stupid. If you meet someone online who can’t get laid, the most likely explanation of his predicament is that he’s ugly.
Neurotypicals will pony up the most improbable or contrived explanations. In the first case, some rare learning disability or psychiatric condition, or some nonsense about the school being underfunded. In the latter case, they’ll vomit up some retardation about the man lacking ‘social skills’ (a euphemism for not being autistic) or needing a haircut.
Why are neurotypicals so pathetically weak-minded?
William Owlson said:
if theres so much hate for NTs in the autist community why do so many autists wish to be NT in the first place?
this is just jealousy. its like saying society is doomed because of elites etc. when you know it would be worse if people at the bottom ran it right now.
its hate on what you cannot comprehend or understand. people with bad social skills will always think of it as being an irrelevant or time-wasting thing when its actually a proxy for good judgment and intelligence in and of itself.
Neandercel said:
There’s no such thing as, “having social skills” – it’s an obvious euphemism for not being an ugly sperg.
Do I envy neurotypicals? No, but I do resent having to settle for garbage-tier jobs while good-looking halfwits skip through life with a smile and a wink.
William Owlson said:
wouldnt anything in this world be an application of skills youve learned/acquired and thus make the person who holds the power more credible in dictating what matters and what doesnt in evaluating people?
all Boomers women and minorities might be socialist and they pretend theyre not but thats just the way things have to be for them to overcome their personal desires.
The Philosopher said:
Well the neurotypical response in the second case is true. The guy lacks social skills. It could be autism [redacted by pp, 2022-03-04] or it could be another condition.
Its because they don’t want to hurt your feelings. Its called social intelligence.
The Philosopher said:
WTF he posted from the point of view of an autistic person, he already admits hes autistic!
pumpkinperson said:
He posted from the POV of a non-neuro-typical, not an autistic per se.
Neandercel said:
“Well the neurotypical response in the second case is true.”
No it isn’t. Ugliness is the obvious culprit in at least 80% of all cases of involuntary celibacy.
“Its because they don’t want to hurt your feelings. Its called social intelligence.”
It’s called lying. If treating social interactions as an ongoing poker game is what NTs consider intelligent, then I’d rather not live on this planet anymore.
William Owlson said:
Ganzir when is the update to your research going to be posted I am sure youve already reached 25 surveyors+ already!
Ganzir said:
Several dozen people STARTED the survey, but only 7 submitted answers, and 3 of those did so incorrectly. Perhaps I should revise it to require less reading. In any case, the correlation I designed to the survey to discover was not statistically significant, although a sample size of 4 is too small to be sure.
austin slater said:
Does anyone have advice on treating fatigue that doesn’t involve sleep, stimulants, having low T, or going to the gym?
pumpkinperson said:
1) wake up early, have a coffee while you watch the sun rise.
2) don’t sleep during the day
3) healthy diet/fasting
4) go for walks
5) stop going on the internet, 4 hours before bed time (unless you use it to listen to a podcast that helps you can fall asleep to)
6) stop watching TV 90 minutes before bedtime
7) stop eating 4 hours before bed time
8) don’t go to the gym (you’ll get covid); buy dumbbells instead
9) Surround yourself by dim lighting and relaxing music/podcat 90 minutes before bedtime, then when it’s bedtime turn lights off completely but you can keep the music or podcast on if it’s the kind you can fall asleep to.
10) If you wake up to go to washroom or to get a drink, have night lights in the hallway, kitchen, washroom so you only get exposed to minimum light.
11) be super nice to everyone, including strangers on social media. Any conflict will only cause stress or anger & thus keep you awake at night
Ganzir said:
“stop eating 4 hours before bed time”
why?
William Owlson said:
most intellectual piece of art. some people say I look a subcontinental version of this guy.
Austin Slater said:
A lot of that is because neurotypicals generally aren’t interested in HBD blogs, the manosphere, etc.
A high IQ neurotypical entrepreneur probably has extremely nuanced opinions about branding and marketing strategies for his new iOS app, and would feel the same way you do if one of us proposed our own marketing idea.
Steve Sailer described their attitude in his Ezra Klein article: “if it benefits me financially, it must be true.”
Austin Slater said:
I think most race realism denial boils down to lack of exposure. Mainstream information channels are constantly stuffed with shameless propaganda in the other direction that people like us can easily see through, but unless you’ve randomly stumbled on one of PP’s articles, doing so is a lot harder.
A lot of reasonably smart neurotypicals would probably walk away closet HBD believers if they read through Sailers archives for a couple weeks, but none of them do so because they lack incentive/interest.
William Owlson said:
i hate people who say that because IQ is a determinant of cultural intelligence it is invalid.
first of all intelligence is the ability to learn new things quickly and apply that knowledge. if you cannot do that then obviously your IQ score will be low because IQ is measuring applications of new material.
so its kind of a logical contradiction to say that you ONLY scored poorly on an IQ test because your ability to learn new material quickly and apply it is low and it should be taken out of the measurement of your intelligence!
also intelligence requires you to learn ALL new things not just things you want to know about. obviously you can be very bright by repeating the same things over and over that are relevant to what youre doing but it takes another form of intelligence…genius in my belief…to acquire new skills and apply it.
so there it is….we know that IQ is mainly a test of acquired knowledge and application of acquired knowledge thus it must be heralded with some validity. of course its not objective if you come from an unfortunate situation where youre not in the loop but thats why you must do a battery of tests to show that your understanding is complete and not just fixed onto one portion of knowledge and not a total measurement of things.
The Philosopher said:
Even puppy doesn’t read Steve Sailer so how do you expect the average guy to? I remember the first time I encountered sailers blog my first reaction was that he was a massive racist and then I read through the blog more and I realised he was a genius but not many people have the patience or curiosity. I was doing it because I was researching for my blog.
pumpkinperson said:
I’ve read his blog many times.
RaceRealist said:
Sailer is a [redacted by pp, 2022-03-24] know-nothing, though.
“first of all intelligence is the ability to learn new things quickly and apply that knowledge”
If this is the case, how is this “measured” by IQ tests since one needs to be familiar with the item content?
“so there it is….we know that IQ is mainly a test of acquired knowledge and application of acquired knowledge thus it must be heralded with some validity”
This seems to answer my question… So IQ tests are knowledge tests and “intelligence” is therefore acquired knowledge – which I argue is class-specific. See my article Knowledge, Culture, Logic and IQ.
The Philosopher said:
Read – as in past tense. You told me a few weeks ago you hadn’t read his blog in months. Maybe because you get offended at how he talks about black women.
pumpkinperson said:
Steve’s tough, but objective. He said Oprah’s the most socially skilled person he has ever personally witnessed so he doesn’t let race or gender cloud his judgement.
turgenev founded nihilism. said:
sailer never says anything. all he does is repost ridiculous articles no one except him reads.
IQ is not only class specific it’s also part of italy specific. sad.
William Owlson said:
the main thing is the difference in time it takes for someone to acquire skills and knowledge on an IQ test. for certain class brackets of course its going to be a lot longer and thus give an unfair advantage over people who only have time to acquire the knowledge DURING the time it takes to a test.
if i were designing an IQ test i would mitigate that problem by having someone perform the test who has prerequisite knowledge by limiting the time they have to solve/compute a problem whereas disadvantaged people would have longer times to solve problems.
this would make it fair-(er) because some people are allowed their whole lives to learn new material while some people are only allowed to acquire knowledge as they take the test. to make it objective you would need to ration out the time differences.
of course this type of IQ test is impractical to make at the current moment but would be something to keep in mind in how to make a test fair-(er).
also applications of acquired knowledge might be a better form of a test anyways. think about how different classes have different amounts of knowledge. we want to test how quickly one can acquire new knowledge so that would be an IQ test of itself and then having a test where people learn to applicate knowledge would be sufficient.
for example I would want people to apply knowledge using knowledge they are already aware of. this is a way of finding COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE.
anyways this is the best response i can conjure for now. let me know if you want to delve further RR.
straight out of rawls said:
special message for rr:
obviously IQ tests are retarded. only retarded people don’t know that. and no one cares about them except americans.
BUT! how do you select people for spots which are oversubscribed? and how do you do it objectively?
if there are 10 applicants for one spot, how do you choose the one? and how do you choose that one in an objective, consistent way? and a way that is consistent across all such selections?
a test of some kind is the only means.
and all such tests will be correlated with so-called IQ tests, though maybe not by much.
stop focusing on “disparate impact” and “racism” and focus on class. the tests aren’t the problem. the problem is class.
listen to adolph reed. read marx. it won’t turn you gay.
america lovers and other satanists [redacted by pp, 2022-03-24] have forgotten what jeffersonian democracy is all about. they think the 99% are on this planet to serve the 1%.
Article I – Human Beings are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions can be founded only on the common good.
the 1% should only be the 1% because their being the 1% serves the interests of the 99%.
making everyone exactly equal is stupid.
making sure that what inequality there is is best for those at the bottom is smart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position
The Philosopher said:
I basically ignore RR’s meanderings at this point. Everything is fucking racist to that guy. He’s like a Steve Sailer parody account.
William Owlson said:
youre blue-pilled Pill.
austin slater said:
So many problems could be solved if good paying jobs hired based on how well you do on a job specific exam, rather than where you went to school and the quality of your resume.
You shouldn’t have to shell out $250K on higher education and spend 100+ hours a week wasting your time in classes, clubs, internships, etc. just to land a top-tier IB, consulting, or engineering job.
Yes, successfully managing all of those things is indicative of strong performance in these kinds of jobs. But so is a top score on a carefully designed exam. No one’s future should be contingent on their ability to manufacture college applications in high school.
austin slater said:
I was fortunate enough to have people in my life pushing me from a super early age to do all of those things, so I’m in a decent spot now. I’m definitely wouldn’t have been motivated enough on my own.
But apart from my career, I honestly gained nothing out of all of that apart from the ability to work 20 hours at a time on things that I hate doing.
The current system selects for extroversion and pushiness just as much as it does for genuine talent.
William Owlson said:
excellently put. it is a shame so much is asked of the youth to perform not just well but with persistence and excess dedication that it becomes soul-destroying.
glad someone has the guts to call it how it is.
100% white zimbabwe said:
of course “the 1% should only be the 1% because their being the 1% serves the interests of the 99%.” and rawls is based on the idea that citizens of the same country care about their fellow citizens, aka “solidarity”.
and so the 1% will say, “fuck off government! taxation is theft!”
which is why socialism is stupid but national socialism is smart.
The Philosopher said:
If it was up to puppy the whole supreme court would be black women.
pumpkinperson said:
Imagine how low your social IQ must be to mistake the #1 solo HBD blogger for a woke social justice warrior.
The Philosopher said:
You are a social justice warrior. You follow Oprah. You read the NYT and you watch CNN. You’ve admitted all these things and you ban people for being ‘racist’.
pumpkinperson said:
And you read the Guardian. My Oprah interest is research related.
The Philosopher said:
Puppy would make Oprah president and her vice president would be Kamala Harris, the worst vice president in US history lol.
pumpkinperson said:
No I’d make Oprah president & Dr. Phil vice president.
name redacted by pp, 2022-03-25 said:
1. dr phil’s moustache should be president. rr should be vice president and oprah should be a maid in the white house.
2. [redacted by pp, 2022-03-25]
Neandercel said:
This is the best comment anyone has ever made on PP’s blog.
William Owlson said:
imagine having such terrible judgment to think Mug could ever make even a DECENT comment. wow.
he is scum.
Neandercel said:
Imagine being a sanctimonious liberal douche. Sad!
William Owlson said:
fuck you idiot. go [redacted by pp, 2022-03-26] again you lost sheep autist.
pumpkinperson said:
Moderating any further insults between the two of you
Neandercel said:
Whoa there Bill, you sound pretty angry. Is the missus not puttin’ out?
The Philosopher said:
I believe the comment section is now 70% autistic. Heckuva job Puppy!
William Owlson said:
i thought thats what you were trying to achieve with all the bullshit thrown around.
Neandercel said:
Why would anyone other than autistics, psych majors, or ‘Nazis’ read HBD blogs? They come with the territory.
The Philosopher said:
I haven’t showered in 3 weeks. The grease in my hair has now blended in with the dandruff on my scalp to form a sticky sort of paste. Anyone want to see photos?
pumpkinperson said:
Yes we do
Neandercel said:
But I’m the social retard?
selenium sulfide said:
i’ve had horrible dandruff before. especially in the winter. all i had to do was change to a dandruff shampoo and no problem. it’s actually caused by a fungus. i had assumed my scalp was just dry.
The Philosopher said:
I’ve spent nearly 200 hours on Assassins Creed Valhalla. The new expansion is great.
The Philosopher said:
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Oh my god this guy is actually married to Ketanji Jackson. Hes a white man!!!! LOL. What the fuck is he thinking? Imagine how desperate this guy must be with women. Even worse than Neandercel.
Neandercel said:
Black chicks and fat women dig me, but I’d rather pay to have sex with women who don’t repulse me.
The only thing sadder than an ugly man is an ugly woman.
presidential press conference said:
dr phil: why are you asking me? please address all your questions to the ‘tache…
dr phil’s ‘tache: i apologize for the dust. oprah! get in here!
rr: that question is racisss!
a glitch in the matrix of the empire of lies said:
i’ve noticed self-identified paki LOADED hates gypsies.
the empire of lies claims that the nazis targeted gypsies for liquidation. why does this not make sense?
1. the empire of lies also claims the nazis killed only 25% of europe’s gypsies. so they were really bad at killing gypsies.
2. himmler was against it. he regarded the gypsies as aryans.
3. the whole aryan thing comes from historical lingusitics. “aryan” is a sanskrit word. and to this day the gypsy languages are classified as “indo-aryan”.
4. no one loves hitler more than indians.
humans know...they know! said:
there is…
1. the good,
2. the beautiful,
and…
3. the true.
and failed scientists like dawkins and neil d tsyon have autistically latched onto one aspect of #3…
that is, the truth of natural science.
pumpkinperson said:
Oprah says “God is a FEELING experience not a believing experience.”
Ganzir said:
Low IQ thought process
Vegan DHA said:
Oprah’s mostly right on that. But the feelings create beliefs and most people are really careless when concluding what those feelings mean. People are really careless with their reasoning on general, though.
Neandercel said:
Inane gibberish. Who’d she get that line from, Eckhart Tolle?
Anyone who believes that diseased midget is anything other than a mid-tier conman should be sterilized.
"natsci" is a british epithet for people like dawkins. said:
notice the intentional similarity “natisci” vs “nazi”.
natural science is great.
but so is allah.
natsci has nothing to say about the good and the beautiful…
NOTHING!
dawkins has been married and separated three times…sad.
mugabe: let’s play chess.
dawkins: i don’t undertsand.
mugabe: you’ve never heard of chess?
dawkins: i’ve heard of it but it’s not checkers and therefore it’s child abuse.
mugabe: sad.
dawkins and jayman... said:
as adolescents, autists, both have claimed that there is no free will because logic…
chomsky (an actually smart person) says, “yes! it makes no sense. but we all experience it. how can this be?…because humans are too stupid to understand it.”
i remember when i was an atheist and thought everyone else was retarded.
i was 9 years old!
sad!
pumpkinperson said:
What does it even mean to say we have free will?
Oprah brilliantly asked God “why did you make us humans with choice? If you know what’s best for us, why not just do that?”
Ganzir said:
Because he didn’t. God doesn’t exist. Believing in God is a sign of low IQ.
Vegan DHA said:
One simple answer would be (assuming that we’re talking about the Christian, or Abrahamic God) that we can’t earn Heaven without having free will. If we go to New Age territory, the spectrum of possible answers is quite broad, including one that cancel the question’s presuppositions.
chomsky ridicules jayman and dawkins as dumb people. said:
illuminaticatblog said:
Freewill is breaking and integrating symmetries.
Neandercel said:
Would you mind expanding on that?
Btw, I don’t think you’ve ever insulted anyone on PP’s blog. You might be the only kind-hearted commenter here.
William Owlson said:
im the only one who can understand Anime around here. i know what he means when he means what he says. 🙂
Neandercel said:
He seems like an absolute sweetheart
illuminaticatblog said:
To make genuine choices you need a free option.
if left or right the symmetry of going in a direction needs to function as a choice.
stupid people are the worst. said:
it’s funny how wikipedia describes schrodinger as an atheist.
have they ever read him?
try this and then STFU and move to paraguay.
and people like chomsky and fermi who are described by the little babies as “agnostic”.
no. they believe. they just don’t believe in any one religion. and all its bullshit.
William Owlson said:
youre a crude ugly man Mug. I dont think I will be paying for your services after all….
with folks like marion and voltaire and Dieudonné the french aren't that bad. said:
btw, “atheists” in the west EX-cludes people like jains and buddhists who are sometimes categorized as “atheists”.
as j l marion said, “the christian is the only true atheist.”
pumpkinperson said:
Atheists HATE Oprah because every time she talks to one, she tries to convince they believe in God but just don’t know it.
Dawkins (and many others) were pissed when Oprah replaced David Attenborough as the narrator of LIFE.
Dawkins mention “I turned it on & suddenly it was being narrated by Oprah Winfrey” except he pronounced it “Opera Winfrey” & the audience laughed. In fairness, Attenborough’s voice was a much better fit for that series, but the derisive way Dawkin’s said “Opera Winfrey” had many seeing red.
Ganzir said:
So Oprah isn’t smart enough to realize God doesn’t exist. Gee, sounds like her massive cranium might just be a thick skull.
pumpkinperson said:
So you know for a fact that God doesn’t exist?
Ganzir said:
Correct
pumpkinperson said:
Oprah’s smart enough to be spiritual, not religious, and even the spirituality might be an act. Chris Langan believes in God. Is his massive cranium just thick skull?
Ganzir said:
Whatever Chris Langan is blithering about when he says ‘God’ isn’t what most people are thinking of when they say God. If Oprah’s beliefs discord with mainstream definitions of God, I’ll grant that she might not be totally deluded, but there will still be no logic to her beliefs and no recognition that what she calls God is an altered state of consciousness.
Vegan DHA said:
Oprah’s spiritual beliefs and her whole approach is a bit too superficial for me, though I, too started like that, with The Secret and then God. I evolved though. Oprah seems to still be in spiritual infancy.
Personally, I find problematic most of the arguments by theists and anti-theists (or spiritual people and anti-spiritual people), but I do believe there’s *something* and no argument or data have convinced me against that belief.
pumpkinperson said:
I would say evangelical Christians are in spiritual infancy. Oprah, with her embrace of books like A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle , The Seat of the Soul by Gary Zukav and A Return to Love by Marianne Williamson, is probably in spiritual adolescence at least, though it’s hard to know which books she genuinely likes and which are just marketing.
Vegan DHA said:
I haven’t read the Soul book but I find it funny that the most “liked” review of it on Goodreads starts this way: “This book is new-agey and written for an Oprah audience with no background in philosophy, religion (east or west), or science.”
I love Williamson but think Tolle is a tool.
atheism is less common among physicists than among biologists because higher IQ. said:
the question of “does God exist?” is a category mistake in its natsci sense (the only sense any statement can have according to the intellectual imperialism of morons like dawkins) and thus “God exists” and “God does not exist” are meaningless statements, a category mistake because…
1. the meaning of “God” is not at all clear and never can be for mere humans.
2. whatever “God” means God is not a thing among other things. it does not belong to what heidegger termed the ontic category of the innerweltlich.
3. if all one means by “i’m an atheist” is “all religions are stupid” then that’s cool.
4. if one thinks God is the same sort of thing as a flying spaghetti monster, then he’s just a vulgar moron whether he’s dawkins or a creationist snake handler or a mormon.
Neandercel said:
“Oprah’s smart enough to be spiritual, not religious, and even the spirituality might be an act.”
Perhaps she’s not smart enough to be religious. I’ve never met a self-described ‘spiritual’ person who wasn’t a stoner, hippie, or borderline-retard – but I have known some extremely intelligent Christians – including a young Earth creationist.
pumpkinperson said:
Education level is a rough proxy for IQ and spiritual (but not religious) people are far more likely to be college educated than religious (but not spiritual) people. The latter are far more likely to be high school dropouts.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/06/more-americans-now-say-theyre-spiritual-but-not-religious/
Neandercel said:
PP, I’m familiar with this finding, but I’m also familiar with ‘spiritual’ types since I’ve moved in Guenonian, Evolian, and Anthroposophical circles.
I’ve never met a ‘spiritual’ (or occult/esoteric/Traditionalist(tm)/theosophical) individual who wasn’t a lunatic, idiot, or degenerate (I’m something of all three, myself).
Oprah promoted Eckhart Tolle. That guy is a transparent fraud among transparent frauds. Unless she did so for purely cynical reasons, this is direct evidence against your hypothesis that she’s brilliant.
pumpkinperson said:
Well according to one of Oprah’s former producers, Oprah only pretends to be spiritual & doesn’t believe what she says, so it probably was largely for cynical reasons, but even if she does believe it, how is it as dumb talking the Bible literally? The World is only 6000 years old? Talking snakes? Creationism? Do you believe Jesus was the son of God and the only path to Heaven, or was Jesus the biggest fraud of all?
Neandercel said:
“Do you believe Jesus was the son of God and the only path to Heaven, or was Jesus the biggest fraud of all?”
PP, you already know that I’m not a Christian – fundamentalist or otherwise. You would have been better off (from a rhetorical standpoint) asking whether I believe the historical Buddha could really levitate, teleport, and predict the future.
“Well according to one of Oprah’s former producers, Oprah only pretends to be spiritual & doesn’t believe what she says . . .”
Contemptible if true, but point taken.
why does baptist vox day live in italy? said:
the great thing about the roman church is its tolerance…
for difference in opinion.
my price is $150,000 CAD per fuck. said:
now that the squat-ch personality has been working as a t-14 lawyer for a while…
she can afford me.
pumpkinperson said:
You’re not Marsha. You’ll be lucky to get 2 figures
marsha is a gigolo? said:
marsha is a man? who only does women?
whom do you think whores have sex with? said:
marsha pays ME.
why the ukraine war is women's fault said:
putin: i’m the actual richest man in the world. not bezos or king salman. me!
and i gotta duh power.
but girls still don’t like me because i’m a midget.
so i invaded ukraine!
pumpkinperson said:
The best measure of true wealth is not the value of one’s stocks (which are only on paper) but the size of the house in which they live. The number of washrooms they have.
William Owlso said:
Mug youre fat. lose weight. get in shape for next season.
youve already lost this one.
illuminaticatblog said:
I almost have Schizophrenia
The problem is reintigration
if I do not become emotionally stable my mind wonders.
My two amygdalas must synchronize.
or I catastrophize.
The problem is distractions and unintegrated emotions.
I’m unbalanced. I need a release from the noughted tangle.
that is what the amygdala does it noughts up.
without release is simply frustration.
frustration turns inward into madness.
If I start thinking about delusions I will hallucinate.
I am suppressed.
Ganzir said:
Pepe do you think the N-word refers specifically to Congoids or can it also be applied to Capoids?
pumpkinperson said:
It depends on whether you’re using a broad or narrow definition. In the movie Hotel Rwanda a character says the World didn’t save you because you’re Africans; you’re not even N word. So that character was limiting it to American (or at least diaspora) blacks
Ganzir said:
I think there’s an argument to be made that it only applies to Congoids because those are the ones we shipped over here to pick cotton, unless we also enslaved Capoids and I didn’t know. However, the people who use that word usually categorize people into races as an intuitive social construct, so I doubt they’d even be aware of genealogical technicalities like this, much less care about them.
Ganzir said:
Pepe, someone I know whom I consider almost as intelligent as I am informed me that he got these scores on the WAIS-IV: “133 as 34 VCI, 44 PRI, 26 WMI, 29 PSI.” Any insight into what those index scores correspond to and how his profile is tilted?H
This person is a male (inferring that from the ‘he’ pronoun’ is an IQ test on its own), a professional software engineer, about 25 years old, and from Australia. He said he was tested because of suspicion he had ADD. I was actually surprised he scored below 140.
Mind you, he’s rather leftoidal and wouldn’t appreciate that I frequent a blog like this. He showed me his scores because he knows about my interest in IQ, but seems to basically be an IQ-denier. I’m not sure because I don’t bring up the topic with him anymore.
pumpkinperson said:
probably refers to the sum of scaled scores on the subtests composing each index. VCI and PRI will tend to be higher because they’re the sum of 3 subtests each while WMI & PSI are the sum of only 2 each. There’s a table converting the sum of scaled scored to index scores
Ganzir said:
Could you show me the table, please? The reason I posted the scores is that I was hoping you would look them up in the table and tell me what z-scores they correspond to.
pumpkinperson said:
when I find the manual I will. It’s buried under a ton of stuff, but in the mean time you can probably infer from your own scores. The VCI and PCI sum of scaled scores will both have a mean of 30 and the PSI and WMI will both have a mean of 20. Then you can see how many SDs your index scores were from their means of 100 and you’ll know that your index sum of scaled scores were the same Z score and since you know their means are 20 to 30, you can calculate the SDs
Ganzir said:
Gotcha
JimBob McGee said:
The 133 seems to be the sum of scaled scores rather than an IQ. His IQ is 123.
VCI: 107; PRI: 127; WMI: 117: PSI: 124 (UK norms)
Ganzir said:
Interesting, thanks, I didn’t notice
Ganzir said:
I will be posting my report about this survey on my blog tonight. I’m currently revising it, but it will be published tonight come Hell or high water. And there was a severe thunderstorm with a concomitant tornado warning here last night, so the mention of high water may not be metaphorical.