I recently got an email from a very big brained (literally) PhD student who wanted to know his IQ. Based on your education, estimated brain size, and ethnic background, I estimated you would score 119 on an IQ test (or the equivalent on a college admission test).
However I didn’t need to estimate because you had already told me what your scores were. You “took the SAT twice in 2006 and scored 680V/660Q the first time and a 720V/630Q the second time.”
In the early 2000s, I estimate IQ = 23.835 + 0.081(SAT score), so these were the equivalent of scoring IQ132 and 133 respectively (U.S. norms).
You also say “I took the IQtest.dk, which is essentially a Raven’s progressive matrices test, in high school and got a 124.” The problem is I don’t know if IQtest.dk has valid norms.
You also state:
I’ve taken the GRE a few times and my score in 2010 was 630V/650Q. I took a practice test years later and scored 163V/155Q. After studying for a couple of months, I took the GRE two more times and was able to get a 170V/152Q/4A the first time and a 169V/161Q/4.5A the second.
So your combined (V + Q) scores on the new GRE (318 to 330) seem to equate to an IQ of 134 to 145! This is considerably higher than your IQ as derived from the SAT even though both tests measure similar skills (reading & math). I wonder if most people score higher on the GRE than the SAT because university is inflating their scores beyond their true ability.
You also state:
I took the online Wonderlic when I was in my early 20s and got a 31 on it. I took it again last year and got a 30.
This fits with my suggestion that thirty-somethings deserve a 1 point age bonus on the Wonderlic. A score of 31 = IQ 118 (remarkably close to what I estimated from your education and brain size, but now I’m just data mining)
You also write:
I’ve also recently taken the Open-psychometrics IQ test and scored a 137 Verbal/134 Spatial/121 Memory with a calculated 127 Full-scale IQ. The designers claim the norming is based on scores from proctored IQ tests and admissions test scores of users. I also took Antjuan Finch’s SAT/IQ test and I scored a 30/30 on the verbal section and, I believe, a 26/30 on the Quantitative.
I don’t recall Antjuan having a quantitative test (maybe you mean his non-verbal test).
Conclusion:
Assuming full disclosure, your test scores range from 118 (wonderlic) to about 140 (the mid-point of your GREs). Assuming these two tests correlate about 0.8 if the general U.S. population took both, this suggests a composite IQ of 131. This is 11 points higher than expected for a black American PhD with an assumed 1534 cc brain size.
But then your background is far more elite than the average black American’s. You write:
My parents are black African immigrants. My dad doesn’t have a formal college education but learned about computers on his own/on the job as they were becoming more important for business infrastructure and joined the IT revolution at the ground floor. When he retired, he was a director of IT at a cybersecurity company.
My mother has a community college degree in nursing but decided to focus on being a stay-at-home mother rather than having a job. When my brother and I were old enough to watch ourselves, she began to take on new jobs which she excelled at. Her jobs have included being a computer lab instructor for my school (not computer science, just teaching proper operation and security for them), a small business owner (though the 2008 financial crisis hit us hard), and an interior designer/event planner. She also manages our family’s finances. You’ll probably get a kick out of this: people have actually talked about getting a very Oprah-esque vibe from her.
This reader and his parents sound very nice.
And an HBD aware black psychology professor would be a good asset for society.
I hope he gets a tenure track job after completion.
LOL of course he will get tenure. He could get a job at Goldman Sachs as an i-banker if he wanted.
With Gond who has a 173 LSAT, and a high SAT, who is very articulate, and has a commercial job being independant and the doing the Florida state JD, we see that it’s not that easy. No too 14 school wanted him.
The number of black tenure doesn’t change since long.
So it’s not that easy for black people despite positive discrimination. It seems african have more chances than afro-American but it could be a quality difference .
Yeah I should be a millionaire by now….
ted k and curtis yarvin make all the same complaints as mugabe.
but ted k blames impersonal technology, and yarvin doesn’t know whom to blame.
so add technology to powerful hostile minorities (the jews or the rich) as a third explanation for the unexplainable.
read ted k’s essay: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-system-s-neatest-trick
and watch yarvin’s interview with tucker carlson.
new word mugabe heard from yarvin which mugabe has said is the correct position so many times.
luke-warmist: one who believes that anthropogenic global warming is real but it’s not that big a deal and there’s plenty of time to stop it from becoming a big deal.
I wonder where you can take an adequate wonderlic test? Are there any online?
Pumpkinperson, thanks for writing this up. I sometimes wonder if I should just take a formal IQ test and be done with it. Other times, I realize that it’s less important than whatever I choose to do with it.
Also, I did mean the non-verbal section.
Even formal IQ tests will just give you an approximate result. You’d probably have to take 3 different formal IQ tests to measure IQ with the same accuracy that a doctor measures your height
Fair enough.
You really don’t need to do that….honestly most people have a rough idea of their intelligence level already. And knowing your exact score does nothing to improve your life one way or the other 😂😂😂
I totally agree. And I think that in general, persons are alway a bit disappointed by the number (wich is not g but an approximation of it brw).
And it’s not wise to let a number shadow ones expectations.
And contrary to elite programs (like HYP or some French Grandes ecoles like X or ENA or ENS Ulm), if you get a high kick and never gets down, others will mock you and won’t give away anything to you. A VH IQ score by itself has a zero marketing value.
yarvin says that the best case scenario for the US is a dictator. he says if nothing changes in 100 years the US will be like venezuela is today.