In his book The g Factor (pg 169), Arthur Jensen wrote:
The broad heritability of IQ is about 0.40 to 0.50 when measured in children, about 0.60 to 0.70 in adolescents and young adults, and approaches 0.80 in later maturity.
Rushton & Jensen write:
…the default hypothesis, is that genetic and cultural factors carry the exact
same weight in causing the mean Black–White difference in IQ as they do in
causing individual differences in IQ, about 80% genetic–20% environmental by
adulthood.
Elsewhere they write:
Jensen (1998) demonstrated that Black-White IQ differences typically increase with age (because genetic influences become stronger over the life span). He used Shuey’s (1966) compendium to document that the average
Black-White difference was 0.70 standard deviations in early childhood, 1.00 standard deviations in middle childhood, and 1.20 standard deviations in early adulthood…
…Until the results of several such studies allow reassessment of the situation, the best estimate of Black-White convergence over the past 100 years is between 0 and 3.44 IQ points—a maximum effect size of 0.23—well within the predictions of our estimated heritability of .80 for the Black-White g difference in the United
States.
Rushton & Jensen seem to be saying that because IQ is only 20% environmental (among U.S. whites), the 15 to 18 IQ point black-white U.S. IQ gap could at most, only be expected to close by 20% (3 to 3.6 points), thus reducing the gap to only 12 to 14.4 points .
One problem with this theory is that 80% means the proportion of IQ variance explained by genes so you need to take the square root to get the regression line predicting genetic IQ from phenotypic IQ which means differences would actually be 90% genetic, allowing only a 10% decline in the black-white IQ gap, assuming you believe a) heritability is 80%, and b) the default hypothesis is true.
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Pumpkin Person 
Perhaps everyone would get less confused about this kind of stuff if we by default used r(correlation) instead of r2(variance explained) unless there was a specific reason to use r2?
By the way Pumpkin, there was a dutch twin study showing IQ heritability of .85 at age 12 but only .62 at age 16. I’m guessing that’s a fluke compared to other studies?
Click to access bouchard.04.curdir.pdf
Probably. Even Flynn (who was Jensen’s biggest critic) agreed that heritability increased with age & peaked at around 0.80 in middle age.
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1. taliban wins because the afghan security forces were just mercenaries, soldiering for a paycheck.
2. taliban wins because afghanistan is a fake country…a hole in the map of empires that became a country…
what would unite such a country?
american steve: fight for afghanistan my brothers in globohomogayplexistan!
afghani mugabe: wtf is afghanistan?
islam is the only conceivable source of unity in a country like afghanistan.
it’s amazing how no one gets this…or no one in or through the media at least.
what holds a country together is what divides them from its Nabors.
my “white trash” relatives don’t exist.
all my blood relatives have high IQs…i mean for real, not a cereal box test…but they’re also total losers.
You are so insecure about having never scored high on an ACTUAL IQ test. And yes your family includes white trash; regardless of how high their their IQs might be.
i can unnuhastan how no one gets it outside oregon and parts of washington.
nature can be so unbelievably fucking beautiful you think, “maybe diogenes was right.”
are all cattle mutilations just wolves?
yesterday my irish setter turned over a wolf dog and it lay there pee-ing on itself.
weird i know.
the dog looked exactly like a wolf but the person said she was only 25% wolf.
Oprah recently sold her gorgeous Orca Island home for a cool $5 million profit:
Example of previously mentioned confusion: the square of the 20% that’s explained by the environment is 45%, so then 45% of the gap can be explained by environment using the same logic?
Depends what you mean by explaining the 15 point gap. If the question is, what would be the gap if black & white environments were equal? About 13.5 points according to default hypothesis
But if the question is, what would be the expected gap if Black and white genes are equal? About 6.75 points
So the genetic gap is equal to 13.5 IQ points, the environmental gap is equal to 6.75 IQ points, and yet the combined gap is only 15 points? I’m having a hard time understanding that.
The default hypothesis predicts the average black American has a genetic IQ 13.5 points below the white mean & an environmental IQ 6.75 points below the white mean. But because there’s a zero correlation between genes & chance environment (by definition)the SD of the composite IQ (phenotype) is very close to the total of 13.5 & 6.75 & that SD gets rescaled as 15 because that’s defined as the IQ SD
But Jensen wasn’t talking about some imaginary “genetic IQ” or “environmental IQ”, he was talking about IQ.
IQ is just the composite of genetic & environmental IQ & Jensen believed the average u.s. black was the genetic & environmental equivalent of an 85 IQ white
So assuming that, how big would racial IQ gap be if you eliminated all u.s. environmental differences? 13.5 points
If you eliminated racial differences in environment but kept individual environmental differences? About 10 points
Assuming default hypothesis
once again you see that peepee redacts:
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but does not redact
WHITE TRASH.
this is why there were gas chambers.
It’s not analogous dumb-dumb. One refers to the whole race and one refers to just a subset. If anything white trash is a pro-white term because it implies the default white is higher class.
that’s NOT what chris rock says LIAR!
and it’s totally COOL to HATE on poor people…as long as they’re WHITE?
peepee’s IQ keeps getting lower.
and it’s totally COOL to HATE on poor people
Because HBD denying morons like you believe the myth that low SES whites are better off than high SES blacks & have spent years harassing & smearing everyone who disagreed with Gould. Hahaha what a useful idiot white trash.
I laugh at you. Shoe laughs at you too.
“It’s not analogous dumb-dumb. One refers to the whole race and one refers to just a subset. If anything white trash is a pro-white term because it implies the default white is higher class.”
Which also makes it racist against non-whites lel
I prefer trailer trash. It’s a purely classist slur. Some people think it’s specifically for whites, but they’re wrong, any race can be trailer trash although you’d have a hard time finding Asian or Jewish trailer trash
Broad heritability? Is that different from regular heritability?
It’s different from narrow heritability
Hmm so if I understand correctly. Narrow heritability is caused by individual genes, broad heritability by that as well as combinations of genes?
Gene interactions would be hard to study without an impossibly large sample size and mega-supercomputer just because there are so many possible combinations. But singling out individual gene effects in a population is well within modern computational genomics, I believe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_blocking
I should be much higher than 112. But I am slow. It is the problem of putting it all together. I’m stuck. I don’t know how to get out of it.
my family seems fine. I’m the only one.
schizoaffective is the explanation.
catatonic psychosis
but more so is that it is difficult to hold many thoughts at once. you cannot put all the pieces together if you can’t hold them.
my mind turns too mud and I can’t think but sometimes I am fine.
doing things by myself is hard.
I have a pen and paper but my mind is blank. nothing comes out.
0.8 is gay and retarded like densen and flushton.
the twins of twin studies have a much smaller variance of enviroment than the general population.
In the Bouchard study the rearing fathers ranged from 0 to 20 years of education which is pretty variable home environments.
Flynn independently confirmed 0.8 using non-twin data
Is the gap’s heritability lower for certain indices/subtests than for others?
Intuitively, you’d expect group differences in performance on something like Vocabulary to have more to do with culture/environment than differences on, say, Digit Span.
But maybe that’s totally off base, I dunno.
when my mom was in england and she was asked about her ancestry. why. idk.
“my grandfather ws a shipwright and merchant captain.”
“middle clahss. middle clahss.” said the english bitch.
my most recent alien ancestor arrived in the last 19th from liverpool. i mean 1880+ i think.
but then the only person i’ve met who actually lived in a trailer park was an italian american woman from sf with a masters in math from berkeley. and she was rich…but had to wait to wait for her inheritance.
I lived in trailers my whole life until I was an adult.
the problem with living in a trailer if you’re single is having to live in a trailer park. but an airstream trailer in the middle of nowhere might not be so bad. it’s just a “tiny house”. in Northern Exposure the resident disc jockey and intellectual, chris stevens, lives alone in a trailer.
as lion observed, “the worst part about being poor [sc. in america] is having to live next to poor people.”
not all trailer parks are trash.
my family lived in a walled park with paved streets and lots.
a play park with grass was part of the park with a service area.
our trailer was a doublewide
our park was next to a trashy park but it wasn’t a planned park.
My mom has a friend that lives in an old folks trailer park and it is very nice.
Puppy did you father come from a third world country?
My dad and your mom have similar ancestry
white?
Anime is a very handsome man.
That chart from the dutch showing which countries immigrants are a net benefit to the natives was a really good study that Sailer showed. I can’t believe something like that hasn’t been done before. But I doubt even that can be rigorous enough to compile the costs of crime or the shared costs of building more schools/infrastructure to accomodate immigrants. Of course on the plus side, immigrants setting up businesses and making intellectual contributions to their countries is hard to do a cost benefit analysis on either. We also have the notorious issue of people who intermarry with the natives and make babies like Puppy.
We also have the notorious issue of people who intermarry with the natives and make babies like Puppy.
And babies like pill.
New tax plan: Annual income should be capped at $10,000,000, i.e., any income beyond that is either taxed at 100% or close to it. This isn’t an arbitrary number. It’s the Value of a Statistical Life, which engineers use to calculate how much spending is justified on making construction projects safer.
Nobody can make more than a human life is worth, even in some abstract sense
no dude. too UN-subtle.
better is a wealth tax on non real property and a reduction on real property taxes…which every home owner has to pay even if their home is a trailer.
unlike theories of everything, where marxism is close but wrong, taxes are easy…
1. tax income from labor LESS than income from property.
2. make taxes very very progressive. meaning rates increase steeply with income.
this way high income people like doctors don’t feel like they’re being (and are) screwed.
while at the same time the capitalist GOSPLAN function isn’t gassed and ashed.
it’s like whenever i see a very technical company with an MBA CEO i think…[redacted by pp, aug 23, 2021]…
like the CEO of ServiceNow is just a bean counting psychopath. the same with Intel’s old CEO Paul Otellini.
these people bitch about “skills” shortages, but they have LITERALLY no skills themselves.
i mean imagine yourself in the shoes of someone (an american) who made more than 10m a year.
if it were me i’d think, “yeah. i have no use for this redonkulous amount of money…i’ve got a house with a yuge yard and a swimming pool and a private jet…
BUT…
i resent having to pay so much to the government…because i think it’s just gonna shit on my money, throw it away.
So donate it to a cause of your choice, problem solved
no. because charities are WAY more wasteful than government.
the only way to give away your money is to give it away yourself.
the income tax required a constitutional amendment.
better is a very steep consumption tax + wealth tax.
I said a cause of your choice, not an external organization of your choice. With that kind of money I figure you can afford to set up your own distribution structure
my hippocampus has been shrunken by EtOH but did i post this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Grant_college_admissions_controversy
according to Nightline iirc, gina had an IQ of 150+, yet she was from a trailer park. LITERALLY!
and i know i repeat myself: this is why affirmative action based on class is opposed by the dems. it would OVERWHELMINGLY benefit white trash.
another exampe how jews make own goals all the time.
58% of american jews are married to gentiles.
yeah. and her dad makes a 90k a year in retirment because union. not liek you my loser dad!
and she’s a mischling. her mom is obviously not jewish.
and then mugabe thinks to himself, “why does this girl keep appearing in your sleep?”
so mugabe found her hs yearbook photo, and…
oh…that’s why…
becaue she’s like the young marlon brando/irish setter of females.
aha!
you are an atnisemtie because spurned by a jewess.
no.
not spurned.
and not jewess.
but it did make me a Cynic. that’s true.
basically this:
https://knowledgeguild.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/mamihlapinatapai/
the man woman thing is a lot older than 10,000 years.
but we have to pretend it’s not.
why are america’s two most “successful” serial killers negro and retard?
why are the world’s most successful serial killers NOT genetically superior people except for yang xinhai…sexy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims
samuel little – negro
gary ridgway – retard
this guy is the coolest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Greco
looks like the pieta.
pumpkin what do u think of the miller analogies test? i just took it and got a prelim score of around 450
Chris hitchens was a really smart guy but how did he get Iraq so wrong. Whats the answer Puppy?
EGI
Hes not jewish [redacted by pp, 2021-08-25]
Its very ‘vestigal’ as he says it himself. I mean most white americans probably have some native american in them by that measure.
he’s wasn’t even a smidgen jewish. just like milo. he made it up and went full neocon because he was being blackmailed.
this is the same dude who claimed rudolf hoess was tortured into writing Commandant of Auschwitz. he was a holocaust denier.
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but VIQ savants are common in blighty. hitch himself said he sucked at science and math but that his father excelled at them.
who the hell would bother blackmailing him?
BBC British accents add at least 1 SD to perceived VIQ.
churchill had zero amerindian ancestry, just like hitch had zero jew ancestry…
despite what they claimed.
most white americans are 100% european.
and it’s a lot more than most.
it’s like 95+%.
Virtually no white Americans are 100% European. Unless your definition of European predates the human species.
wtf are you talking about?
can you stop lying?
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“…all non-Africans inherit 2% of their genomes from Neandertal ancestors”
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/5/1639
wtf does that have to do with anything?
almost all neadnerthals lived in europe.
neanderthal is a valley germany.
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Which is why I said only if your definition of European predates our species
that makes absolutely no sense. you’re LYING again.
virtually no white americans are not 100% european.
explain why this statement is false.
write in shithole and use google translate.
By 100% European in a racial context, most people mean 100% European HUMAN. That doesn’t exist because of the Neanderthal admixture.
According to Sailer, Peter Hitchens thought his brother’s obsession with Judaism was really stupid. But he only claimed like 1/8th or 1/16th, so it honestly wouldn’t shock me if it was true.
I don’t think it took blackmail for Hitchens to go full neocon. He just wanted to be famous and get plastered with celebrities.
Puppys favourite song.
the more interesting thing about hitch is how he died.
he was a self-described alcoholic…
but he laso smoked.
throat cancer is a great example of how 1+1 can equal 100.
1. if you drink like a thirsty fish 3x to 7x the risk.
2. if you smoke like chimney 4x
3. if you fish like a smoking thirsty 1
00x
sammy davis junior (peepee’s hero) died from throat cancer.
he was a negro who converted to judaism.
i mean sammy was a midget and skinny. how did he make a jewish woman sleep with him?
oh…
that’s why!///
[redacted by pp, 2021-08-25] – why does the media love black people?
1) because they want a buffer race to shield the ruling ethnic group from the previously ruling masses a la South Africa’s Coloureds
2) because embracing diversity (racial or sexual) allows them to be liberal & virtuous without opening their pocketbooks
3) screaming discrimination deflects from economic inequality & allows all minorities (racial, ethnic, religious, sexual) to form a single united opposition to the previous ruling class
[redacted by pp, 2021-08-25] why the jews dont promote asians or muslims or latinos then? Puppy the real reason is because blacks are by far the most threatening and poorest fit for modern society. The reasoning is that if they can get whites to like wolves, then they will definitely come to like dogs. [redacted by pp, 2021-08-25]
Well obviously the ruling class wants a buffer class that’s less accepted than they are, otherwise the masses and buffer class will unite against the ruling class. Your answer is just a confused elaboration of my buffer class argument, because they don’t really expect masses will ever accept wolves or dogs. The wolves are propped up to be disposable when the masses get tribal.
Wrong. Its not a buffer argument. Blacks aren’t shields. They’re sensitivity training. If whites put up with blacks they will put up with anything.
That’s retarded. If anything whites have become LESS tolerant after 8 years of a black president. They just stormed congress. My theory is vastly superior.
LOL what planet are you living on. Barrack Hussein Obama got elected president in the United States [redacted by pp, 2021-08-25]. You even said yourself that whites were way more racist to blacks in the past than nowadays.
Black faces in high places directs the anger of tribal whites against blacks instead of Jews. The same can be said about women, gays and immigrants in high places. Trump rode that anger to the White House. In the 1950s, all the conspiracy theories were about powerful Jews. Today they’re about about the Obamas, Hillary, Pelosi, openly gay Anderson Cooper etc
[redacted by pp, 2021-08-25] thinks no one would lie about having a big head or being jewish.
sad.
No normie non-HBD U.S. woman born after WWII would lie about having a huge head. Dumbest conspiracy theory ever.
So after 5 years here I find out that Puppy hasn’t read any of my comments or learned anything. Now I know why Steve Sailer has zero effect on your thinking…its because you are stone cold dumb.
Once you are Jew, you don’t care if it’s new.
So you admit to being a jew.
sigh
I bet puppy is thinking about adopting an afghani refugee. This is the type of intellect were dealing with here.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/aug/21/jonathan-franzen-considered-adopting-iraqi-orphan-young-people
peepee is obviously a low IQ jewish woman. her sockpuppet “hal” was a jewish lesbian.
Lynn compares this result with an analysis of vocabulary scores using national survey data broken down by categories including Jewish and non-Jewish white. This he translates into a verbal ability score (not full-scale IQ) of 107.5 for American Jews, compared to 100.0 for gentiles (pg. 204). Other estimates come in higher or lower. MacDonald (1994, 190)–whose three volume series is dedicated to demonstrating a Jewish evolutionary strategy of promoting their own reproductive success at the expense of gentiles-comes in at the top, with a general IQ around 117 and a verbal IQ around 125. Hughes (1928, 90), cited in NHAI, made a large study of London school children under the supervision of Cyril Burt. He found Jews scoring about 10 points higher than gentiles, regardless of economic well-being. But Hughes also refers to previous studies of Jewish immigrants to the U.S.: “four of them find that Jews are not more intelligent than the non-Jewish American population, and four of them find that they are.” Patai and Wing (1975, 146-149) review studies, most of which give Jews higher IQ, but a few of which do not. That same year, Dershowitz and Frankel (1975, 127) compiled other findings. The average verbal IQ (WISC) from two studies of American Jews was 8.4 point higher than Italian-Americans, 7.5 points higher than Irish-Americans, and 3.1 points lower than WASP-Americans. For performance IQ, Jews came out lower all around, 2.7, 2.6, and 9.2 points below, respectively. For full scale IQ, Jews beat Italians and Irish both by 3.2 points, and lost to WASPs by 6.8 points. Another study by the authors of 185 Israeli Jewish children found a much lower score than for the Americans, with an average IQ of96.13. Taking all the information together, it is fair to say that most, though not all, studies give Ashkenazi descendants a higher IQ than non-Jewish whites. How much? Take your pick. 22
NHAI also focuses on the high end of the curve, how many very, very gifted there are among Ashkenazim (Cochran et al. 2006, 661). In this they follow Patai (1977, 321-342) and others who tallied the disproportionate number of Jews winning Nobel Prizes. Cochran et al. add world chess champions, and winners of ACM Turing awards. This clear over-representation is cited frequently in print and internet discussions ofNHAI, as clear demonstration ofthe power of Jewish genes. But these impressive totals provide no evidence in favor of the NHAI hypothesis. They would only support that conj ecture if it were shown that a disproportionate number of those winners were heterozygote carriers of one of the supposed IQ-booster genes, as compared to the normal distribution of these alleles among the Ashkenazi. If 113 of the Ashkenazi have one ofthese alleles, then most of the winners should be from that 113. That would suggest the exceptionally gifted among Ashkenazim are so smart because they have the alleles. But if the winners did not have such an over-representation, ifthey were pretty much like the Ashkenazi in general, then the fact of so many excellent minds would tum into decisive falsification of the NHAI thesis. The alleles would not be related to these indicators of especially high intelligence. No one can say which way the evidence would tum, but the hypothesis itself certainly does not constitute evidence.9 Commentators on Jewish IQ regularly note the unusual pattern oftheir measured abilities (Backman 1972; Dershowitz and Frankel 1975; Levinson 1977; Patai 1977,292-294). “They have high verbal and mathematical scores, while their visuo-spatial abilities are somewhat lower, by about one haIfa standard deviation, then the European average” (Cochran et al. 2006, 661). NHAI emphasizes this, quoting Hans Eysenck (1995), longtime champion of inherited class and racial differences in intelligence. Eysenck makes clear that this large a discrepancy on different scores is unique: “there is no other group that shows anything like this size difference.” NHAI folds this into its theory: “Verbal and mathematical talent helped medieval businessmen succeed, while spatio-visual abilities were irrelevant” (Cochran et al. 2006, 671). It fits, but not without very inconvenient baggage. This lopsided specialization goes against the idea which Cochran et al. (2006, 662) otherwise endorse and build upon: that there exists one, biologically based g, or “general intelligence.” “g is what diverse cognitive abilities have in common” (plomin 2003: 183). And even iftheir posited logic of selection sounds plausible, the biology of it all becomes much more complicated. The posited neuronal stimulation would boost only some capabilities, and simultaneously retard others. The complications do not end there. Dershowitz and Frankel (1975,133), discussing Israelis of Ashkenazi origin, argue that specific cultural values and practices could explain this internal pattern of subtest scores. Burg and Belmont (1990), working with Israeli Jews off our different geographical origins, encountered the Ashkenazi pattern, but also found Jews of the three other 9 I note again here the NHAI-author reviewer’s point–that there are probably many other entirely unknown Ashkenazi IQ genes besides those associated with inherited conditions. For that reason, he disagrees that the comparison suggested here would be any kind of a test of the NHAI thesis. He adds that he now sees that this point about other possible IQ genes should have been made explicit in NHAI itself. Again, I am responding to the published article. 23
nationalities each had their own distinctive pattern of mental abilities. 10 After discussing these and still other difficulties, Lynn (2004, 205) concludes “At present it is doubtful whether any conclusion can be reached about the intelligence of American Jews except that their verbal intelligence … is about 107.5.” Because performance scores regularly are lower, full scale IQ would be well below that.11 To go back to the question that ended the last section, how much IQ elevation is there to explain, the answer is-not as much as NHAl or some others claim. Yet if we take a 5 to 10 point advantage over gentiles as a reasonable estimate, that 10 David and Lynn (2006) review ten studies from Israel that compare the IQs of Jews of Ashkenazi ancestry with Jews from the Middle or Near East, or North Africa, to test NHAl’s hypothesis that only the Ashkenazi situation led to selection for higher intelligence. The median difference of these studies give the Ashkenazi an advantage of 14.6 points. This is presented as confirmation ofNHAI. Eight of those ten studies are unavailable to me, either unpublished reports or published in Hebrew. The two I could obtain have more debatable results. Lieblich (et al. 1972) administered a Hebrew version ofthe WISC IQ test to Israeli born children of European or Middle EasternlNorth African background. The Europeans had an average IQ of 106.0, and the “Orientals” combined of92.8, for a 13.2 point difference. Comparing the two after sorting into categories of high or low socioeconomic status reduced that gap to just under 10 points difference. That supports NHAI. But this study also attempted to compare IQs for the second generation ofIsraeli born children, those whose parents were born in Israel. “It was found that mean LQ. for Oriental-Israeli children was 101.3, and that of Western-Israeli children was 109.6. Two points should be made: 1) First generation Oriental children had mean LQ. of about 92, and Western children of about 106. The increase ofLQ. level for the second generation Oriental children is ahnost 10 LQ. points, and for the Western children about 4 LQ. points. This may be interpreted as an indication of environmental impact on intelligence levels” (pg. 167). That goes against NHAl. Gross (1978) administered the same test to small samples of kindergarten children of Ashkenazi and North African-ancestry Jews in one middle class community. The Ashkenazi score was 121.56, the North African 111.26. As the author notes, this is a major increase compared to Lieblich et al. For the North African sample, it is almost 20 points higher, and 11 points above the high SES subgroup. StilI, a 10 point gap between the two ancestries persists. Gross concludes that environment is more than just SES status. Understanding IQ performance will require “looking for different emphases within the two subcultures, divergent motivational systems, aspirations, cognitive styles, or learning commitments” (pg. 810). What closer examination of the other eight studies would show, I cannot guess. These two studies can be interpreted in different ways. NHAI finds support in the significant and persisting IQ differences between the two groups. Against NHAl, these studies indicate a major role of environmental influences, with no telling how far those could go. J J In a more recent review covering that same material, Lynn and Longley (2006, 542) present 110.4 as the median IQ reported in four publications on American Jews. Settling on the median discards the reservations previously expressed by Lynn. Surveying several British studies, they calculate 110 as the rounded median IQ British Jews. 24
is still significant. That shift in the curve can account for the over-representation of Jews at the very high end of intellectnal accomplishment. The more important question is, is this difference genetic, due to biology rather than culture? 7.
I recovered from my recent catatonic state. It happens quite often to me. But I still have problems thinking/being creative. I still have thought blocking. It is just that it blocks less than before. I am not losing anything anymore but I can’t make new things. Before I would almost make something new but lose it right away.
The ability to think new things hold and manipulate them has levels to it.
Scientists have models of cognition that have practically solved intelligence.
I know that some part of my apparatus throwing off the rest.
If this one thing could be fixed everything would be perfect.
I wonder what would have happened to anime under Hitler. He probably would have been ‘put down’…..
As would you
Those are very different circumstances.
It all depends on finding purpose in one’s life.
What do I do considering emotional trauma?
Would I have emotional trauma?
Would I have an exitential purpose?
aktion t4 was abused i’m sure. but the original intent was not to kill garden variety crazy people. Hitler gave as examples the mentally ill who he said could only be “bedded on sawdust or sand” because they “perpetually dirtied themselves” and “put their own excrement into their mouths”.
it would’ve been people like this:
i doubt all the doctors involved would’ve approved killing people with mere schizophrenia. it took the approval of three doctors. but maybe they did and germans are just that evil. there were a lot of sterilizations before the war, so the killing would’ve been for economic reasons not for eugenics reasons.
in 1939 there were 88m people in germany, aktion t4’s toll was at most 300,000 and this includes austria and poland. about 1 in every 300 people if just germany. schizophrenia alone is much more common than 1 in 300.
According to the wiki on the programme, common schizophrenia was plausible grounds to be put down. But if the schiz could be medicated and put under abatement, the doctor could sign off the patient from the programme. Drugs have improved a lot since the 1930s even if understanding why schiz happens hasn’t improved much.
in germany proper there were only 70k killed. that’s less than 1 in 1,000. scz affects 1% i thought. these were people so disabled they would’ve starved to death if not taken care of. there are plenty of mercy deaths in the US and low countries and denmark every year. it’s a matter of degree. why treat humans worse than dogs? if you could fight or do manual labor there’s no way you’d be killed. i’m not condoning it. i’m just saying it wasn’t as unimaginable at it may appear. by 1942 50% of german doctors were members of the nazi party, which was never more than 8% of the population.
You believe mostly environmental, not partly only.
According to lion you misunderstood the Bermuda data.
Afro relevant because you believe all elite universities outside North America select for genius IQ & you credit his adoptive environment for him qualifying
yes. if afro actually attended a grand ecole and passed his exams without a pro black curve then he has a high IQ…
BY DEFINITION.
DUH!
and my understanding is that although canada and germany and australia have some elite universities in one sense, none of them are “elite” in the sense that they mediate elite status. in canada no one gives a shit where you went to school…unless you went to school abroad, for example.
1) He does have a high IQ but not as high as you think because his university tested knowledge acquired in privileged high schools which is less g loaded than the SAT
2) being adopted by elites was arguably the product, not the cause, of his high IQ. Iirc correctly, Afro got some publicity which led to his adoption
and the nazi ideology was that germans especially, but aryans in general, were under threat of annihilation themselves. which is crazy. but that’s what they believed. the killing wasn’t done with malice or even with unfeeling.
again. the nazi period is still a mystery in some ways, just like the stalin period. maybe they always will be, especially with the lies about both.
but the nazis responsible were hanged or killed themselves. molotov and kaganovich lived to almost 100.
doctor asperger was a nazi and referred some of his patients to aktion t4.
YES!
the whatever fench exam is LESS g loaded than the SAT and the GMAT and the LSAT and the ACT and the…
it doesn’t matter…
it’s so elite.
and maybe you have to take multiple tests…
in which case they’re just as g loaded.
the grande ecoles are like the harvard of france…except unlike harvard admission is totally OBJECTIVE.
https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/02/les-grandes-ecoles.html
https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2006/04/vive-les-grandes-ecoles.html
https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2010/10/les-grandes-ecoles-chinois.html
the POINT is NOT that exams actually pick out the best.
the POINT is ALL other means of SELECTION are WAY worse.
Let’s say the average Grande ecole student has a more elite education than 98% of France (+2 SD) and the exam correlates 0.7 with nominal IQ tests in an unrestricted sample. This predicts the average Grande ecole student is 0.7 * +2 SD = +1.4 SD = IQ 121
if whatever test correlates with peepee’s favorite cereal box jew test, the wechsler, at 0.7, then it’s an IQ test in its own right BY DEFINITION.
why can’t peepee unnuhstan this?
Why can’t Mug of Pee understand that the test people are selected on will by definition tend to overestimate their IQ, relative to all other IQ tests
The Yamnaya culture is identified with the late Proto-Indo-Europeans, and the Pontic-Caspian steppe is the strongest candidate for the Urheimat (original homeland) of the Proto-Indo-European language.
The demographic impact of steppe related populations on South Asia was substantial, as the Mala, a south Indian Dalit population with minimal Ancestral North Indian (ANI) ancestry still have ~ 18% steppe-related Yamnaya ancestry, while the Kalash of Pakistan are inferred to have ~ 50% steppe-related Yamnaya ancestry, one of the highest percentage next to eastern Europeans at 51%.”[71] Lazaridis et al.’s 2016 study estimated (6.5–50.2%) steppe related admixture in South Asians.
sad.
https://www.takimag.com/article/a-matter-of-tone/
Sailer sometimes tries to shoehorn too much content into his articles which makes the narrative lose its purpose. He started out by asking whether the black-white IQ gap could close and then ends up going in depth into 2 heredity studies. Anyways, the 2 studies seem to show black low IQ is genetic which anyone not woke (and therefore by common tongue should be considered smart) already knows.
Mug of Pee thinks it’s largely environment because he was blown away by Afro’s intellect
^^^LIE!^^^
take down your comment IMMEDIATELY LIAR.
You believe that if all Americans were raised in the optimum environment for them, the BW gap would be more than cut in half on the new bell curve.
it’s got nothing to do with afro [redacted by pp, 2021-08-27] there is norm crossing in bermuda which should be a good environment for both.
so you do have the genetic difference reinforcing itself with the shittier environment. the problem with that adoption study was the IQs of the parents weren’t known and the negro chirren were smarter when they younger. the wilson effect isn’t an explanation of this, because the wilson effect itself has no explanation.
The education of the biological parents were typical of their race. The IQs of all the adopted kids were higher in childhood not black ones only. The racial gap was LARGER in childhood than late adolescence
And Sailer is dead wrong on Sirhan Sirhan. Poor Sirhan can’t even remember pulling the trigger on RFK. As we all know from the Devils Chessboard, there was a second shooter put there by Dulles and Sirhan was pumped up on acid.
Played Resident Evil 8 for a few hours. Great stuff. I think the addition of the maps though actually makes it too user friendly. Back in the 90s we had to remember the whole thing in our heads and remember what keys went to whatever door.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/aug/27/boy-12-makes-29000-in-non-fungible-tokens-with-digital-whale-art
Puppy what is the IQ of the person who bought this arab boy’s digital drawings of whales in the form of NFT for £290,000?
Poor pill. Reads the paper everyday trying to make sense of our complex world with his demented schizo mind.
Schizos should be better at dealing with convoluted stuff covering a lot of breadth, autistics go more in depth.
Depression is like dirty water. The contrast is clean crystal clear water. I have had moments of clarity where my mind works perfectly. But past trauma keeps me depressed.
The doctor said she will give me Prozac in a couple of weeks.
aktion t4 must also be seen in a very broad historical context.
it was savage. killing such people was the norm in sparta, and i suppose elsewhere.
and the pro-life folks are right. pro-choice people support infanticide in some cases…like babies born without brains.
basically aktion t4 targeted people whose own families would’ve killed them…out of LOVE.
and this was the case with its very first victim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Kretschmar
believe me pill. you’d have absolutely nothing to fear from nazis…unless…and neither would kitty.
the nazis killed people who in hunter gatherer and early neolithic days would’ve been killed.
or maybe canadians just deny it.
if half of canada’s supreme court graduated from mcgill law school for example.
but canada has the lowest stratification in the developed world and its pm didn’t even graduate. the last us prez w/o a degree was truman.
indeed! just being an antisemite doesn’t make you crazy. but hitler’s antisemitism was crazy/pathological.
but the mystery is how could a crazy person be so charismatic? rather than revolting?
maybe because WW I produced a kind of charismatic crazy?
tell me when you’ve actually figured it out. until then STFU!
Most charismatic people are a little crazy
That’s what make religions so crazy
They’re started by charismatic people
That’s what makes them the opposite of autistic
is facial hair in general Cynical or UN-Cynical?
are some forms of facial hair more Cynical than others?
even though i know nothing about him i hope larry elder becomes gvernor of california.
and then runs as trump’s vp or runs in 2028 at age 77, but black don’t crack.
a black GOP president would kill the corporate, clintonite, DLC, vichy dems forever.
he’d get a lot of black votes.
I voted for him in the recall
what about the masons pill?
there are supposedly still 1m masons in the US. there were 4m in 1960, supposedly. this according to npr which is even less trustworthy than wikipedia. but 1m is still a lot. and it’s hereditary like judaism. and it’s a social network. and masons prefer masons. but so many have left, supposedly, it’s probably gay.
i remember once seeing a masonic bumper sticker and once a barbur with a ring cut my hair. but you can tell how big it used to be because all these buildings that used to be lodges and are now museums or pizza restaurants or whatever.
The masons are basically just a social club is my understanding. There probably was a point in American history where they were more than that around the Founders time but those days are long gone.
One of the downfalls of having rich parents is that you can’t pick a lower status career that interests you.
Growing up, I always really wanted to be a professional umpire. Whenever I watch a baseball game on TV (or in-person) I’m pretty much always more accurate than the actual umpires on the field. I probably get plays that go to replay review right on my first look 85% of the time. And that’s from the shitty TV angle. It’s a weird talent.
Anyway, the below struck a chord with me because running a clinic like that is something I think I’d really enjoy doing. And the guy in charge is surprisingly smart and articulate. He’s probably ~130 IQ. Video is genuinely interesting, too.
Here’s the link I meant to post:
trump’s brother became a pilot. what’re you talking about?
Nothing. I was obscenely drunk after a night of “make it, take it” beer pong.
Sub-0.08 commenting from here on out. I’m not hitchens.
although pilot is actually NOT what trump called it “a bus driver in the sky”.
it’s cool. even if the pay is shit…and the pay is shit at the beginning. it’s way cooler than bus driver.
and merchant marine officer corp is a great job. you only have to work 6 mo per year. but in americastan the only way now is a degree from a merchant marine acadamy.
whereas the nazis and bolshies thought what they did was right and for the majority, the current reigning anglo-saxon ideology is NOT about what’s right. it’s about preserving the wealth and power of much less than 1% of the population in the developed world and much much less than 1% of the population of the whole world.
in this way the nazis and bolshies are not comparable to sexual serial killers, more to mafia killers, but that’s not a perfect comparison either.
whereas deaths from poverty or lack of health care or overwork…
the haute bourgeois killers are perfectly compared to sexual serial killers.
how did they get people to do that stuff?
well…both the SS and the cheka were elite organizations which allowed people from very humble backgrounds to move up…that’s one how…opportunities they would not have had otherwise.
both were extra-legal authorities. they made their own laws. so to say. and the cheka i don’t know, but the ss was like the mafia in that omerta, bushido, was their code.
so recently you have putin, a chekist, saying outside the lubyanka or lefortovo, “once a chekist always a chekist.” in other words, he has absolute loyalty to the organization.
same education as race but IQs of 120 and 115 for adoptive parents?
could be, but irrelevant and gay.
(112 vs 97 age 7) vs (106 vs 89).
15 vs 17
peepee wrong again.
sad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study
Dumbass, read the next chart where they correct for the Flynn effect because old tests were used:
(111.5 vs 91.4 age 7) vs (101.5 vs 83.7 age 17)
20.1 vs 17.8
But even that underestimates the childhood racial gap because adopted whites had an SD well below 15 in childhood so the average adopted black is at much lower percentile of the adopted white distribution in childhood than adulthood..
prove to me that the years of education of the biological parents were typical.
generally only super dumb people give their children away [redacted by pp, 2021-09-03]
In 1975 America, white women and non-white men age 25+ had a median of 12.3 and 11.3 years of schooling respectively (see table 4 of this document). Comparable figures in 1986 were 12.6 and 12.5. So using education as a proxy, there’s no reason to think the mixed kids were selected to have lower IQs than the mean of their parent races. If anything, their biological fathers averaged more education than age 25+ non-white men throughout the full duration of the study and their biological mothers averaged about the same education as age 25+ white women.
Of course it would help to know the exact ages of the parents, rather than just lumping them in with everyone over 25. I can’t find the age of the biological parents of the mixeds specifically, but the bio moms and dads of all the kids who took part in at least part of the study (see table 3 of this paper) averaged 21.6 and 26.3 at the time the kids were born, and thus were about 29 and 33 in 1975 and about 39 and 43 in 1986, thus they were likely near the median age of the 25+ cohort by the end of the study.
https://pumpkinperson.com/2019/01/30/a-closer-look-at-the-minnesota-transracial-adoption-study/comment-page-1/
same education as race but IQs of 120 and 115 for adoptive parents?
IDIOT! The 120 vs 115 refers to ALL the adoptive parents IQ when tested at two different times, not the adoptive parents of whites vs blacks. Their IQs dropped 5 points because they went from taking the abbreviated WAIS to the abbreviated WAIS-R (the latter having newer norms)
I wonder how tough it is to get a job as an air traffic controller. That’s another job I used to think about.
The number of ATCs employed in the U.S. is surprisingly high, but turnover is probably super low. And I’m sure that kind of environment appeals to millions of adrenaline junkies.
But then again, how many smart, competent adrenaline junkies have their sights set on working as an ATC? I assume it’s zero.
So maybe it wouldn’t be that hard.
this guy’s jewish gradparents left his mom $100. they left his mom’s sister $26m. why? because his father was black. the things jews get away with whites can’t because (((media))). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Reffkin
one thing peepee doesn’t mention is the lower scores of “asian or indigenous”.
would like to see which were asian and what sort of asian. i mean. we all know filipinos are ‘tarded.
peepee’s theory has to explain why the white chirren scored above 100 when people who give away dey keeds are dumbasses.
the bermuda data i found on an HBD website.
can you find where lion criticizes it?
the bermuda data may be an example of a much more general phenomenon.
for example, blood pressure and adiposity are heritable, but 99+%/everyone is capable of being thin and having low bp…it’s just that for some it takes a more extreme environment.
bermuda is or was recently the richest territory in the world.
so it’s like pima arizona vs pima mexico or polynesian of today vs polynesian of yesterday.
the ceiling is the same. and there is a ceiling. but for some it takes a more severe environment.