Interesting video below of Rushton taking questions from his fans. What strikes me is how eloquent and upper class he was, especially when answering the question about Indian Americans:
The Indians that we notice over here are almost higher scorers than white people. They earn more money. They dominate in physics departments, engineering departments of universities, over-represented in information technology, they do extremely well; entrepreneurial and so on.
Rushton’s ability to just rattle off four examples of Indians intelligence (income, academic acumen, technological talent, and business success) while throwing in fancy adjectives like “entrepreneurial”, all with flawless elocution, shows verbal skills on a level that Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Feynman never came close to achieving.
I noticed too in the conversations I’d have with him, while he would sometimes misunderstand my questions, his answers were always extremely articulate and commonsensical. For example when asked about Oprah’s super sized brain, he replied:
There are always going to be those who are way off in the top 1%, and indeed one would have to be to succeed in a field as competitive as television talk shows
When asked about regression predicting IQ from income:
Billionaires are going to be more intelligent than millionaires who are going to be more intelligent than the middle class, who are going to be more intelligent than welfare recipients. That’s the way the model works.
He was also the best writer of all the prominent HBDers, writing:
Archaic forms of the three main races seem to differ in antiquity.
What a beautiful sentence. Rushton understood the rhythm of language.
Rushton was in a tough position, being a very non-autistic man with a hugely autistic following, and you could see the frustration in the dismissive way he answered some of the questioners in the below video. When one man went on a monologue about accepting high IQ people of all races, Rushton rudely dismissed him with “Okay thanks for the thought”.
It’s almost as if Rushton was angry that non-racist open borders people were among his fans.
He dismisses another questioner with the dumb cliché “It’s hard to make predictions, especially about the future”
Pumpkin Person 
“There are always going to be those who are way off in the top 1%, and indeed one would have to be to succeed in a field as competitive as television talk shows”
If he really said this sentence, I subtract 20 points from any IQ he might have.
I assume he meant top 1% of black IQ since I was asking about Oprah. In other words, IQ 120+. I doubt you’d find any hugely iconic U.S. TV talk show host of the 20th century who would score below that level.
Theres nothing technical about shooting the breeze with someone puppy. Are you out of your mind? Over here most of the talkshow hosts are comedians, flamboyant gay men or models. You do need charisma – which is very unique and a highly valued trait in humans but not IQ.
Hosting a talk show requires a lot more than just IQ, but having a high IQ would be an advantage because people want a host who is interesting, funny, commonsensical, concise and articulate, so to completely dominate the field, probably requires above average intellect in addition to other talents and personal qualities.
Yeah, 120 is a bare minimum for making one’s way up the media ladder and as a modern extrapolation: the social media ladder.
I agree with Pumpkin. I don’t share his unhealthy obsession with Oprah But i do believe Philo is severely underestimating how intelligent successful talk show hosts are.
I mean absolutely no disrespect or arrogance about anyone or anything when I say this: People with an IQ of about 120 are DUMB. They lack the general cognitive ability to fluently deal with novel abstract concepts. I know this based on my own experiences with groups that must have averaged around IQ 120.
People below that threshold are only that much dumber by virtue of being unable to process complex abstractions at all.
It’s not until the low 130s that people become capable of really understanding abstractions or holding insightful discussions about them, and even then they tend to get tripped up.
Graham Norton’s show is good, but he’s dumber than Oprah. Global news coverage about a Graham Norton interview? Unlikely. In his Hillary Clinton interview he used cue cards! I’ve never seen Oprah holding cue cards.
Howard Stern had his staff take an IQ test, the supposed top 2 scored 121 and 122. But the supposed 3rd place guy scored 118 FSIQ but 135+ on VCI. And I say supposed, because the one guy that looks like a nerd/geek scored 130. The true number 1.
Ganzir is hilarious.
The statement that 120 is needed to climb up the media hierarchy is not mutually exclusive to the statement that 120 is lower than 130 or 140 or 170 or 200.
Actually, you know, I’m sure pumpkin knows about this, but the Asian Indian population is not really continuous in IQ. There’s certain high caste groups, such as the Brahmans, as well as the upper caste members of other caste groups like the craftsmen, or vishaiya. The Brahman or actually thought to be the remnant of the Aryan invaders, related to the Norse who conquered India and in antiquity. The cast system was established put themselves at the top. They tend to be lighter skin than other Indians if you notice.
I was reading about Ramanujan, the famous mathematician, and I noted that he was a Brahman. I thought maybe there something to this. It turns out that almost all of your famous intellects from India, such as a chess champion vishwanathan anand, most of the Nobel laureate and famous novelists from India come from the Brahman class. Most of the American software industry was created by Brahman genius. They are regarded as the Jews of India. 60% of University admissions in India are brahman. They are very high IQ sub cast. So you see most of the Indians in America or actually from this uniquely gifted sub cast. The cast formerly actually indicated a racial distinction. Cast actually means color in Sanskrit.
I remember in the Gregory Cochran paper about the high intelligence and genetic diseases of Ashkenazi Jews, he mentioned something about a merchant caste in India which also had endemic genetic diseases which don’t occur in nearby populations.
Correct, the Parsis
They’re not the same thing as Brahmans though, are they? Even if there might be overlap
Yes Rushton seems to be assuming India is all just one bell curve and Indian Americans are the smartest 1% of a low IQ bell curve, but India might be several bell curves (much like America) and Indian Americans are fairly average members of the smartest bell curve (e.g. the Jews of India).
Brahmins dont look like descendants of Nord people at all . Go to india and see for yourself.
Also brahmins succeed soi much because they put so much importance to education compared to other castes. Even compared to other castes. You rarely find them in business. Instead you find them a lit in the academic sector and professional ( salaried, job) field.
Also brahmins eat a lot if ghee compared to other castes. Ghee is rich in DHA. It increases IQ.
At 3.50 Rushton contradicts your regression to the mean theory when he says more low IQ people in India tend to have low IQ kids dragging down the average. Poor Puppy.
HAHAHAHAHA
Justice was served today. We can go ahead and cross that off the list of “things Mugabe was wrong about”
On top of that even more evidence for Russiagate has come forward. Poor Philo is shambles right now.
Man I’ve just been straight shitting on the local schizos lately
Funny, I was just going to say your theory about russia paying bounties on US soldiers hit the wall recently.
I never endorsed that though.
No you endorse the sane sounding bit that trump was a manchurian candidate put forward by putin.
What? Do you even know what Russiagate is you fucking moron?
Stop reading fake news
Puppy head hurts all the time. He tried to set up a high IQ blog to attract only autistic commenters and it didn’t work. Poor Puppy.
Rushton wasn’t a very high-integrity guy in neither a personal nor professional capacity. He was an effete charlatan who sired multiple love children (including a mulatto through cuckoldry) by way of r-strategy and selectively disregarded data that contradicted his Differential K theory:
I was always suspicious of his sincerity. I agree with some of his takes, though.
What do you think he was insincere about?
I don’t know just his diction and delivery I found kind of sus sometimes. There are HBD people who are objective and merely want to understand reality, but the vibe I got from him was that he really delighted in innate intergroup difference. He to me is what anti-HBD people think of HBD folk, i.e., that we claim to be “just presenting the facts” when some of us are motivated by prejudice and wishful thinking. Not an expert on reading people, but that’s what I took away from some of his presentations.
I agree with your assessment.
“There are HBD people who are objective”
Hahaha name three of them.
I mean shit, I at least try.
Majority of hbds want to impose right right idiocies by pseudo scientifical approach.
Most of what they think and conclude is factually correct not necessarily accurate. The big problem is their real intentions, the moral question. Science is not just what you know but how you apply it. And Science without philosophy is exactly like a mad genius stereotype.
If the avg hbds arent ideologically influenced they would accept many of marxist insights about the social, economic and cultural world. But not… neoliberalism is bullshit. Capitalism too. Social democracy look, until now, the less worst way to reproduce a miminally decent society. Communism is a very exagerated alternative based on the wrong Idea that a complex or hierarchically structured society can mimic a simple egaltarian hunter gatherer community. Equity is possible within a hierarchical society.
If hbds are really concerned with social justice they would consider one of the biggest problems of humanity, the pervasive domination of highly astute sociopaths in the top of these societies. While these weeds are not at least contained the world will continue like am asylum pretending to be rational/reasonable. But the most proeminent hbds are being paid and supported exactly by these bad guys..
Ok everyone is affected by bias, but hereditarianism is the least handwavy camp in the human behavior debate imo.
Hahaha imagine being this delusional. ^^^
i bet she’d be disappointed at how many asians are just as much brain dead zombies as canadians. but eric striker made the great point that the modern west is unique in the world and in history in that what he calls “the sovereign” actively conceals itself and punishes whoever points to it. at least in china you know who the boss of all bosses is. i agree with pill that none of the explanations for various phenomena in recent american history suffice except that there is an “apparatus” behind it all.
is peepee human? she said 99.99…% of intelligence is non-verbal.
fish swim. birds fly. men talk.
My point is if intelligence is the cognitive ability to problem solve, and if 99.999999999% of all problems are non-verbal, then it’s extremely anthropocentric to value verbal IQ.
Fish swim, birds fly, men make tools.
Fish swim, birds fly, men build fish (boats) and birds (airplanes).
Fish swim, birds fly, snakes slither, cats meow and men abstract</i. unless they're Mug of Pee, in which case they just pee in mugs.
a black woman smarter than oprah. and prettier.
no where near as smart as Oprah. Selling out her own people and still nowhere near as rich and influential as Oprah despite growing up in much less racist times. And not pretty either.
“Selling out her own people”
Do you support identity politics for everyone except whites, Pumpkin? Do you accuse woke white people of selling out their own people?
Whites have the luxury of eschewing identity politics because they have power (deservedly since they’re extremely high achieving). Blacks are at the bottom and always have been.
how is she selling out her own people peepee? are you a racist? oh yeah. you are. sad.
She’s not telling the truth. Chauvin was guilty. You don’t put your entire body weight on someone’s neck under any circumstances, let alone after they’re already restrained and out of breath. If she wants to defend a white cop, she should defend Kim Potter. Now that really was an accident.
Second degree murder is generally defined as intentional murder that lacks premeditation, is intended to only cause bodily harm, and demonstrates an extreme indifference to human life.
Proven beyond a reasonable doubt? No.
Third-degree murder in MN: …without intent to effect the death of any person, caus[ing] the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life
Again, not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The transcript of their interaction before the kneeling started seems to show that Chauvin was very concerned about Floyd’s health once he realized he was blitzed out of his skull on stims. Doesn’t that in itself disprove the last clause?
Manslaugher: …by the person’s culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another
I’d be OK nailing him on this one.
“Whites have the luxury of eschewing identity politics because they have power (deservedly since they’re extremely high achieving). Blacks are at the bottom and always have been.”
(deservedly since they’re extremely low achieving).
Do you think identity politics for everyone except whites is working out well for the west? Do you think blaming whites for disproportionate police violence against blacks when it’s not disproportionate to their crime rate is good? BLM has has led to crazy increase in murders. Do you think affirmative action is good when it’s based on the false premise that everyone has the same underlying intellectual potential?
Not to mention immigration policies bringing in low IQ people and making whites a minority. No, whites DON’T have the luxury of eschewing identity politics. Blacks could do without identity politics, BLM actually increases murder of blacks etc.
Candace dick fit in yo mouth, son?
‘When one man went on a monologue about accepting high IQ people of all races, Rushton rudely dismissed him with “Okay thanks for the thought”.’
This is exactly the right response. Only a system-blind low-IQ moron would think that this monologue contradicts Rushton’s position.
Jensen was a good writer, too. I love how he used the old-timey word “persons” instead of “people.”
Jensen probably had a better grasp on the underlying stats than Rushton did, but Rushton was a lot more creative.
Both men probably had similar IQs.
Jensen writes great books but can be so longwinded. When criticizing attempts to raise IQ, he wrote:
In other fields, when bridges do not stand, when aircraft do not fly, when machines do not work, when treatments do not cure, despite all conscientious efforts on the part of many persons to make them do so, one begins to question the basic assumptions, principles, theories, and hypotheses that guide one’s efforts
I’m a hardcore purist when it comes to institutional change, so I have no incentive to admit this, but I genuinely believe that the vast majority of people in the U.S. lack the VIQ to responsibly serve as jurors.
I’d always opt for a bench trial if possible, especially on a complex, hot button issue with a reasonable probability of genuine innocence.
If I knew I were guilty, I’d go with a jury.