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Henry Lee Lucas, Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, IQ, mental retardation, Otis Toole, serial killers
pumpkin person rating: 8/10
In the spirit of Halloween, I re-watched this movie a couple weekends ago. Neither Netflix, the Movie network, nor pay per view have enough selection for me, so I added Amazon Prime to boot and this film was prominently displayed in their horror section.
It’s a disturbing, well organized film based on real life serial killers Henry Lee Lucas and Otis Toole.
Psychiatrists reportedly found Toole to be be schizophrenic, psychopathic, and mentally retarded with IQ scores ranging from 54 (Trainable [moderate] Retardation) to 75 (Borderline Retardation). It’s hard to assign a single number, but assuming the lowest and highest score were from tests that correlate around 0.7, a composite IQ of 61 is implied (Educable [mild] Retardation).
Actually it’s likely his IQs was even lower because in those days people didn’t know about the Flynn effect inflating the scores of people tested using old norms.
Toole’s low IQ seems to be part of a larger pattern of neurological impairment. He was also epileptic and sexually aroused by fire and from his mug shot it seems he had asymmetrical features, suggesting genetic mutations or developmental insults..

Toole’s art therapist Dr. Joel Norris described Toole as “the lower end of the gene pool”. The genetic garbage of society. Indeed in the film his body is literally stuffed into a garbage bag.
Of course HBD deniers could argue his problems were cultural, not biological. Raised by a mother who dressed him up as a girl, a sister and male neighbor who raped him, and a grave robbing granny, the illiterate Toole drops out of school to become a prostitute and part-time transvestite. Toole’s horrific backstory is not shown in the film.
Toole would become close friends with Henry Lee Lucas, whose mother also made him wear a dress as a kid. With a much higher IQ of 87, Lucas is widely believed to have been the leader of their murder spree.
While the film never mentions IQ it does imply Lucas is the smarter of the two, warning Toole not to kill people he’s been seen with.
Although Lucas towers over Toole intellectually, both men are morons compared to a quick-witted overweight TV salesman who belittles them with biting sarcasm. Luckily the sarcasm flies above their heads, but when the high IQ salesman pushes his luck, he proves too clever by half.
What is “HBD” and what is a “HBD denier”?
Why are you constantly asking people to define every term they use? It’s really tedious.
People should define the terms they use, especially in a discussion.
I want to know your definition of HBD and HBD denial. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
I want [what is volition ?] to know [what is cognition ?] your definition [what is a definition ? Isn’t it a tautology ? ] of HBD and HBD denial [what is a negation ?] I don’t see [what is an epistemic asymmetry ?] anything [what is a constructionist logic ?] wrong [what is an axiology ?] with that [what is an ontology ?]
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LOL!
Cute.
More arrogance from Bruno.
and from personal experience:
i’d always lead the race up to 50m and then the long legged guys would pound me into the track.
my coaches were so ‘tarded they suggested i run the 400m because i was tall and therefore had long legs…couldn’t they see my midget legs?
my hs even had indoor track as a sport, but i was too ‘tarded to skip track and just do indoor track.
muslims suffer cognitive decline because they DON’T drink.
[redacted by pp, oct 31, 2019]
hence they marry their cousins and produce retards.
google scholar has lots of articles under “alcohol demenita risk”. a j shaped curve just like heart disease. but how much is too much depends on a lot of things, like gender, age, body size, how you drink, etc.
Autism is caused by overly increased neural density.
Schizophrenia is caused by overly decreased neural density.
As the brain develops the frontal lobes decrease then increase neural density. That is why Autism happens early. It begins too thick early on. Schizophrenia happens in the early ’20s because that is when a decrease in neural tissue happens but is supposed to increase normally.
Autistic brains feel clogged because signals cannot get in or out.
Schizo brains have false positives and negatives because the signals have to travel in thin connections. Thin connections cause hallucinations.
When I was in the hospital on March 25, to May 25. Two months I had hallucinations. One of them was the eye of zoron lord of the rings. This happened because of a lack of inhibition. I was looking over my back constantly. I had regressed my mentality to a pure instinct mode. I was uninhibited. Super creative. The music and tv were speaking to me.
They say that hallucinations may be caused by increased dopamine levels. This could cause signals to act as if they are on overly thin connectivity. Overly active Perception is emotionally controlled in my case. Autistic people are overly logical or emotionally immature. They act much younger than they are. Or rigidly debatable.
I get my feelings easily hurt. I have bad anxiety. I act like I’m 16 years old. I have a sluggish cognitive tempo. I’m not overly logical. I’m sensitive. I get stuck because of anxiety. I am slow because of it. No ideas pop up.
I think that neither schizo nor autistic traits are dominant in me.
The tests I took say I have low self-worth, I fear ostracization and failer.
My brain is disorganized.
I have emotional problems.
I have Schizoaffective disorder.
It is not something that can be classified as autistic.
I have strange ideas like a schizo.
Lots of Schizos on the street are inventers, I met one once.
There is a meme that the voices come from the government reading schizos minds.
Have you seen The House Jack built by Lars von trier? You should do the IQ of the main character. Fair warning the movie is pretty fucking disturbing.
There is a hateful critic from genius Richard Brody (New Yorker). In fact, the movie is an extraordinary piece of art. So deep. So wonderful. It’s really about human nature and creation.
The main character IQ is impossible to guesstimate because he is magnified by his relationship with Verge wich is a symbol of omniscience.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/review-lars-von-triers-empty-repugnant-provocations-in-the-house-that-jack-built
See the thing is, Lars von trier fucking hates you and wants you to suffer