Wikipedia has a fabulous tree showing how human populations are all related on the Y chromosome. Trees based on just the Y chromosome might give better results than trees based on the entire genome because the latter is confounded by interbreeding between lineages. By contrast the Y chromosome is only passed on the male line and since men did not interbreed with each other, we get a clean separation of branches.
In addition, mutations on the Y chromosome tend to be neutral, so it serves as a more reliable molecular clock.
Moving from left to right, you get an interesting transition from Negroid to Caucasoid to Mongoloid phenotypes.
I suspect the Caucasoid race evolved in India. The first modern humans to leave Africa were almost certainly morphologically Negroid and were drawn to India because it resembled the African climate they were adapted to.
Then among the indigenous Indians, there was likely a split between the proto-Island Indians (ancestors of Andaman Islanders) who remained Negroid, and mainland Indians (who started evolving Caucasoid hair and beards),
Some of the proto-Caucaoids stayed India where they remain as relic isolated tribes, others headed to Australia where they are known as Australian aboriginals, while others headed Northwest where they evolved into proto-Arabs and eventually whites,
Pumpkin Person 
because while whites as a whole did not have the most severe environment…
there is no “whites as a whole”.
the descendants of the ice age peoples with the harshest environment are all 100% european.
it’s just that “beautiful italian women” polluted them.
except some native americans. but there are only a few million of them. the eskimos arrived late. the plains indians had a very harsh environment assuming they didn’t migrate north after the LGM.
and plains indians are one of the world’s largest peoples. tall and robust, like northern europeans who have a lot of WGH and ANE ancestry.
mongolianpedia claims blond hair originated with ANEs, but blue eyes originated in WHGs and CHGs. fair skin also originated with CHGs according to wikipedia.
So why are Eskimos and Plains Indians below 100 IQ? Or rather, why do Eskimos have higher IQs than Plains Indians?
Imagine expecting consistency from “HBD” hypotheses (just-so stories).
Skimos are more northern mongoloids than plain indians. Also, skimos were less predated because their geographical isolation… or niet
you can see jimmy dore has NOT taken care of himself.
he’s said he’s an alcoholic and is on three blood pressure medications.
What i like about jimmy is that he doesnt really care about identity politics. I agree with people like jimmy on 90% of things otherwise.
How explain blonde and red haired Kalashi people??
The nord’s just came back to India, after have been migrating to Europe from India.
when?
Thinking mouse made this up
I may have misunderstood Santos question. I thought it was an rhetorical question aimed to counter pp’s assertions regarding India being the origin point of Caucasians. And so I explained to him how corded ware (Aryans. Aryans were actually a cultural group of several ethnicities and races that had cultural similarities. RR doesn’t get this) peoples could have gone to India by laying an extra layer of explanation. I didn’t intend to say that Nordics evolved in India, but came back to their ancestors land (if pp’s assertions are correct, which I don’t think, though there’s lots of South Asian admixture in populations that are close to Europe, the middle East).
Name,
“When?”
Roughly 1800 bce
The philosopher,
Please answer the question regarding musicians. What makes a good musician????
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalash_people#Genetic_origins
Pumpkin, how hard would a 120 IQ kid have to work in regular classes, as compared to honors and AP classes?
Sigh….
Wtf? Why all of these off-topic/nonsensical questions?
Wrote the PP answers to avoid repeat questions
Regular classes are easy, but it depends on your school. At my school, our regular classes were made to prepare us for honors, AP, and or IB. My 9th grade english class was just as rigorous as my 11th grade IB one.
Regular classes are pretty easy in my school- you just have to read shit over to memorize them- English doesn’t require much work at all to get a B to a B+, same with Math. Regular science classes are also supposedly very easy. The Honors classes are different though, my work ethic (not doing homework, nor paying attention, cramming 1-2 days before the quiz or test- only having a baseline level of knowledge during this period) usually lends me a C average in Math and Science. Philosophy wasn’t difficult, I didn’t do homework till last minute near the end, started not paying attention near the end, just reviewed the material a day before, and made a B. History class was a breeze, and since I enjoy it, I worked hard. I also enjoyed my philosophy class.
Indiasoid
Vision is an integral part of intelligence.
Mine is not that good, in fact, its quite poor.
World models rely on it to a high degree.
Working memory and spatial reasoning subsequently.
Most of all processing speed.
I think too much, which clogs things up.
I overuse my inward processes.
The more you see the bigger thoughts you can have.
You need a clear mind and a relaxed still center.
Calmness
The black in your diagram is michael essien. He was a really good midfielder for chelsea but he got injured a lot later in his career.
Ian Smith,
India beat Australia yesterday in a cricket world cup match.
I’m subcontinental. My skull looks very European. Here’s a pic if you don’t believe me: https://imgur.com/tj8SjzE
That’s from when I was 17. Not bad, huh?
Thats becuase of your soft tissue. You have round but elongated eyes, like most europeans, but with the tropical influence of larger eyelids and eyesockets. your nose looks like a fuze of european and south asian. eyebrows look south asian but have an upwards tilt which is more european than south asians, whom tend to have no tilt at all.
His skull itself is caucasoid, not soft tissue only.
So is the skull of most horn Africans. And most central Asians. Also many Latinos and mullatoes.
But drawing an firm line on race is useless anyways. The lines should be drawn for utility.
What is the utility of race?
King meLo,
“What is the utility of race?”
I think you have the social intelligence to understand when people like to evoke it. Its to contextualize things, and its relative. So there are many ways it can have utility.
Create diversity
On general, races are different paths of adaptations. Just like the utility of sexual over assexual reproduction
Exactly, its utility is prescriptive. It’s no surprise that racists propagate the concept of race the most.
Interesting analysis. Thanks, Thinking Mouse! I’ve shown a substantial amount of people, mainly girls, that photo (only on the Internet lol) and they always think I’m very handsome/cute and charming-looking. I don’t get that reaction irl though (maybe because I don’t look like that anymore?) I look a lot more robust and intimidating now, face-wise, but my size holds me back from taking advantage of it whatsoever.
You are above avarage, but depending on the culture the woman is raised in and what you define as sucess with women, the utility varies greatly becuase you are “only” above avarage. You have a symmetric face, with goodlooking eyes (some people are very afraid of tropic influences, while others not, so this will depend on the culture they are raised in), no visible submental fat, strong maxiliary potrution, somewhat high cheekbones.
You look like you could be in a tv show, and thats pretty important since media does a lot of influence on aesthetics for many people. I could see you get much sucess in india, especially the southern regions, if you are interested.
I suspect most women would rate you 6,5-7,5/10, but individuals can go higher.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5421a3f7e4b0256ed586b188/t/5434327ae4b08dcd08ce626d/1412706939332/
How tall are you? You and I have a very similar facial structure though my jawline is arguably more masculine.
Only 5 feet, 5 inches meLo. And thanks, Thinking Mouse. Never had success with women, at least not on a sexual level. I have really good Game as told to me by other guys. I’m approachable and charismatic as well. I guess height plays a significant role in determining attraction or maybe girls just have such a strong negative stereotype of Indian men, even in America. I have a preference for white and Latina girls, but Asian girls seem to show the most interest in me, though I’m not sure to what extent that attraction is there.
5’5 is really short for a guy in america. U shud wear large heeled shoes or lifts in your shoes.
I’d hang it up for good if I were that short.
I’m not really too self-conscious about my height. I’ve stood next to people who were 5’10”, 6′ and I don’t feel like there is a considerate difference. I will take your advice on wearing certain shoes, Pill. My frame isn’t too bad, so I guess it compensates in the tiniest bit, but height is very, very important for respect, that’s for sure. Competency is almost certainly defined by height.
You could lift weights & become one of those HUGE short guys.
I am (66.6) inches tall.
134 pounds
I’ll do that, but I’m not very good at muscle-building honestly. I’m in terrible shape now, but once I make some money, I’ll have some surgeries done and stuff to substantially reduce the amount of fat that I have now. Once I do that, weightlifting will become an option I can once again exploit.
In that pic, I was about 130 lbs. I’ve gained more than 60 lbs. since then, not even joking, mainly because of medication (I don’t wanna get too much into it but I was hospitalized quite a few times) such as olanzapine, which cause excess hunger and rapid weight gain. I’m at 20% body fat rn, so a lot of it is muscle, my lower body looks really good, but my upper body is complete trash other than my broad shoulders tbh.
“I’ve stood next to people who were 5’10”, 6′ and I don’t feel like there is a considerate difference”
Trust me, there is.
“I am (66.6) inches tall.
134 pounds”
You need to eat more.
Oh, I forgot to mention, I’m a pescatarian by choice, meaning I eat seafood. I haven’t seriously eaten meat in about 13 years, since I was 10. That’s probably why growth is stunted, why I’m overweight, etc. I eat too many carbs, tbh.
Well there is a difference between being charismatic and having “game”. My father is 1 inch taller than you but uglier and yet he could talk his way into any women’s pants. How do you usually approach women?
Of course Asian girls show a large interest in you. You’re short and so are they.
Loaded, you are a better man than me. I’m 5’9″ and the difference with 5’11” and 6′ is considerable enough for me to feel self-conscious.
Billy height is a social construction. Basically a figment of our imagination. We need to transcend this. ALL men are born equal. Blacks probably the most equal of all.
Many thanks
Miss Marples
I have both charisma and game, if I’m being genuine with myself. I don’t really approach women unless I’m with a friend or something and we have a plan of action. If I approach a woman by myself, it’ll be an instant raw sexual attraction, usually because I give off that aura, but they’ll be instantly threatened by it. I don’t really do it intentionally either, just talking to a female gives me this lustful feeling, physically and mentally, and they’ll usually be attracted, intrigued, but scared. I intrigue a lot of them, but can never seal the deal. I have a decent voice too. I guess it’s because I only approach and care about older women (30-45). They’re very hot imo.
And Billy, frame matters a lot tbh, per Pumpkin and everyone else on this blog. Self-consciousness may arise from a feeling of threat, but if you can dominate them physically and mentally, there’s no reason to feel self-conscious. I used to be very skinny, and yeah height makes a tremendous difference, but if you give people a reason to respect you, they’ll never threaten you with their height.
“and they’ll usually be attracted, intrigued, but scared. I intrigue a lot of them, but can never seal the deal. I have a decent voice too. I guess it’s because I only approach and care about older women (30-45). They’re very hot imo.”
Hmmm. Are you 100% positive that you aren’t giving off a rapey vibe? Though I kind of get it, older women are sometimes more self conscious because of their age and will opt not to pursue a love interest solely based on the idea of rejection. I prefer Milfs too.
Sometimes it’s just a matter of making someone comfortable with you. I never really had a problem with escalating situations, but i play hard to get.
I used to give off a rapey vibe, but not anymore (maybe when I was 16-20). I think it’s because I’m more asexual now and don’t really want to invest the emotions a woman might want from me. At this point, I just want validation, but women don’t seem too keen on giving that unless I validate them first.
I forgot to mention, I’m also very dark triad. Friends of mine and a few strangers have commented that I am a sociopath, have psychopathic tendencies, an am extreme narcissist, and I personally believe I’m highly Machiavellian. Anyways, that’s why girls probably get a little freaked out because I seem to assert those traits into unfamiliar situations.
does the cockring theory imply that ashkenazi jews should have higher rates of hd than europeans?
if there is a + correlation between GAG length and IQ up to the disease threshold the answer is YES.
jews do suffer from hd. but i can’t find the rate online.
The people of the Great Plains have been found to be the tallest people in the world during the late 19th century, based on 21st century analysis of data (originally) collected by Franz Boas for the World Columbian Exposition.
…within a broadly distributed taxonomic clade, populations and species of larger size are found in colder environments.
but it takes 10s of thousands of years.
so the current arctic peoples aren’t yuge, even though they are wide, because…
haven’t been in the arctic long enough.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haf%C3%BE%C3%B3r_J%C3%BAl%C3%ADus_Bj%C3%B6rnsson
Then why were neanderthals short and stocky?
A prediction is that Gaucher, Tay-Sachs, and Niemann-Pick heterozygotes will have higher tested IQ than control groups, probably on the order of 5 points.
It would be interesing to hear Race Realist´s opinion on the edgy internet book “erectus among us”.
Do you know about it RR? Have you read it RR?
“Just so stories”
yeah, he;s pretty “one note”
Just-so stories are ad hoc hypotheses.
I read it years ago. I recall some kooky evo theory in the beginning, but that’s about it. I have the book, I need to trad it again.
Focus in the out of Africa aspect, human origin aspect, the rest like evopsych are things you already have addressed.
Good experiment to test nurture nature influences is taking people from low lands to highlands, like me on La Paz and observe to see if i will become adapted to that low atmospheric pressure environment or if i never will.
Someday I will work with David Rubenstein at Carlyle and LBO this website and sack all its employees.
When i was growing up being a black person was something to almost be pitied or basically something bad. Being a homo was a disgusting perversion. Nobody supported open borders. And nobody complained why there wasnt enough diversity in engineering or business especially wrt women.
Now because of the jews everything is upside down and people ask me why i think morality is an illusion.
Morality based on what year you were born is not morality.
Because of elite diaspora Jews, not because of Jews.
Israeli Jews hate diversity & love Trump.
Again the same shit since 2007…
Illusion is your wisdom, sorry duded
So 400 years ago we burned witches at tye stake and you were considered moral if you foubd a witch or burned her. 100 years later people started thinking that was crazy.
People never burned people as witches 1000 years ago either. It basically was a FAD.
So im reading a book about milton friedman and now im stsrting to agree that friedman was right about the great depression happening because of money supply shrinkage. But its very complicated because this was caused by bank failures. The banks back then were much smaller and more local than today. So bank runs happened for a plethora of reasons some that dont fit into a ‘grand narrative’. Hypotethically if there was deposit protection insurance and the fed provided liquidity the tuns wouldnt have happened. At thos point you have to either believe friedman is right that credit expansion would have forced the economy out of debt deflation or you take a keynesian view that government intervention was needed.
Note deposit insurance and fed support ARE government intervention so monetarists are badically keynesians anyway. The only real intellectual alternative is to let the liquidation continue as hayek argued.
The problem with keynesian approaches is that they are too litlle as a % of gdp to gorce the beedle abd a lot of the effects ‘leak out’ of the economy e.g. importing. If i was an emperor i would basically just hand money to every single household with more going to the poor rather than build bridges or such. Actually on reflection public works are better for the long term so i suppose it dependa on how much social pain you want to inflict. If the populous was say east asian public works would work because they people would just go with whatever you say.
Someone needs to do a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis of the U.S.’s current immigration policy.
Pros: economic growth (almost entirely consumed by the immigrants/wealthy) and the fact that hundreds of thousands of disadvantaged people are given a better life.
Cons: lack of assimilation, making life worse for “native” Americans, and suppressed working class wages. Also, maybe an uptick in crime, but this is disputed.
There’re plenty more on both sides but those are the main sticking points. I’m virtually convinced that the cons would win any honest debate, but if restrictionists actually accounted for the pros they’d probably convince some more people.
Pill can’t think above black and white thinking. It’s mean hx have the lowest level of thought.
i have to say my value system is very like the 1950s actually. Although id prefer if my wife was a housewife i do think women should have careers if they want. But i would be happy enough with jim crow, gays being stuck in the closet and immigrants like loded staying in pakistan where they all belog. I would probably have the same social views of 99% of men back then.
and it’s all the fault of greedy capitalists. the 50s through ’75 were had much less inequality and almost 0 immigration, much higher taxes on capital, and was socially conservative compared to today.
capitalists started pushing “women’s rights” and open borders in order to increase the labor force and thus put a lid on wages. divorce and bastardy followed. they started pushing gay rights, anti-racism, transgendered bathrooms, etc. in order to distract the populace from their stagnant wages.
[redacted by pp, 2019-06-12]
blacks have much lower status today than they had when there was still hope that they would all become oreos. because now no one has that hope anymore, despite what they may say. the black issue in the US is kabooki theater. no one is allowed to say what he really thinks in the MSM.
and there’d been plenty of blacks outside the south for a long time in the 50s and there was no legal segregation outside the south.
Nobody can objecrively argue that life back then was better. I even think life was better for most blacks back then. Since the 1950s the black family has imploded. Sth lik90% of magic negroes are born out of wedlock.
wasnt better#
”Morality is an illusion”
”But homossexuality is wrong”
Morality: what is right […] and wrong
One decade hitting your head in the wall..