I really enjoyed this podcast where geneticist David Reich is interviewed by Rob Reid, though I felt Reid didn’t challenge Reich enough. They discuss what we have learned about prehistory from the study of ancient DNA including the genetic ancestry of Europeans and Indo-Europeans as well as our relationship with other other homo populations like Neanderthals.
Pumpkin Person 
The following are my DNA results using Eurogenes on gedmatch, a great site you can upload your DNA to for free:
North_Atlantic 2.02
Baltic 6.96
West_Med 0.09
West_Asian 26.36
East_Med 10.43
Red_Sea –
South_Asian 49.78
East_Asian –
Siberian 1.75
Amerindian 1.68
Oceanian 0.93
Northeast_African –
Sub-Saharan –
Look at how fucking diverse that is. I’m literally a percent Papuan, have some North Atlantic in me, and pretty much everything except Asian and any African. I could be one of the most ethnically diverse peoples alive, I dunno. Crazy, man, crazy.
black women are also hideous on the inside.
The most vile & vulgar person on the internet calling other people hideous on the inside. LOL
I think Asians have the shittiest personalities, but that’s just me. Anyway, I have no African nor Asian ancestry, to reiterate my point that regardless, I’d still be the most genetically diverse person to have no ancestry from either of those regions.
[redacted by pp, dec 24, 2018]
Very good Idea. That’s my result :
North_Atlantic 38.66
Baltic 11.75
West_Med 27.19
West_Asian 4.93
East_Med 13.21
Red_Sea 2.46
South_Asian 0.34
East_Asian –
Siberian 0.54
Amerindian –
Oceanian –
Northeast_African –
Sub-Saharan 0.92
I am not astonished about the black thing – even if I have more of a celtic look – since I discovered that my mtdna is a mutation of L2a1c found in south Spain and Malta and is sub-saharian. It’s probably black people who came there with phenician or tartesian in – 2500 BC
Second kit :
North_Atlantic 38.88
Baltic 13.02
West_Med 27.87
West_Asian 4.44
East_Med 11.54
Red_Sea 2.33
South_Asian 0.19
East_Asian –
Siberian 0.37
Amerindian –
Oceanian –
Northeast_African –
Sub-Saharan 1.35
Wow, nice. Seems like you have a lot of diversity as well in your ethnic make-up. Very cool stuff. Thanks, Bruno, for posting that, it was real neat.
I would recommend spending some time to learn about different traits as well. GenomeLink is an awesome site I used to find out more about my genetic traits, from personality to cognitive abilities to physical ones. For example, I have faster recovery after exercise, have intermediate pulmonary function, and have low endurance ability. They analyze the sequencing of your SNPs, then show how you express certain traits. Very, very cool stuff.
I am mtDNA haplogroup H, Bruno. I think it’s the most prevalent group in Europe, and relays the fact that I had a maternal ancestor that was Finnish. My Y haplogroup, as stated, is G, probably getting it from the Caucasus, which then migrated to Turkey, which then migrated to India.
Amusing you’re H, very European, and I am L2 wich is 100% sub Sahara African
I have significant ancestry from the Caucuses, Anatolia region (specifically Turkey), West Asian ancestry (mainly Pashtun and other varieties of people living in Pakistan, North India, and Iran, such as the Kalash), and then South Indian ancestry.
That would mean I descend possibly from the Chechen or other Georgian peoples, the Pashtun who are known for being the most militant people in their region and possibly one of the last tribes of Israel, and then some Greek ancestry, probably from Greek soldiers who mixed with the populations of the Indus Valley during the conquests of Alexander.
And just to piss Pill off, I have 1.9% Ashkenazim in me according to FamilyTreeDNA and MyHeritage.
And on top of that, I have as much as 7% Scandinavian blood according to FamilyTree and MyHeritage.
There’s also great sites like GenomeLink and GenePlaza which show your genetic outputs for different traits. Very cool stuff. I am a huge geek when it comes to learning more about my genome so I’ve explored this stuff in great detail.
Oh, and I’m also Y Haplogroup G.
I still hate white people, tho hahahaha.
What an idiot.
My stance on how the ‘system works’ is simple. It serves Master. The only question is who is Master. There is no question in my mind the system is cultivated to serve his desires and needs. This is not a flock of seagulls forming a formation organically.
In Russia and China its more obvious that kleptocratic control is wielded around Xi and Putins circle (although I’ve heard there was a group that selected Putin for high office initially who he may or may not continue to serve post Yeltsin).
In the West, its a lot more nebulous. But the book ‘The Devils Chessboard’ describes the real system. Not the one in your textbook or tv. It describes historically how a kleptocratic gentile elite (the so called ‘400’ or so richest families), many descended from the robber barons, once ran the country leading up to the assassination of JFK by CIA director Allen Dulles. Unfortunately the book ends right before the (coup?) against Nixon. This is not to say there wasnt division and disagreement. As you are fond of noticing, JFK’s dad was a part of that elite. The documentary you linked to last year supports the view. As the guy said, the CIA was a ‘social club’ for the elite. This is where the elite send their children.
The way the government is said to work that is presented to the public is completely false. This elite controls the secret police, media, most politicians through bribery/blackmail and the US millitary. Even Trump would not be in office, if he did not have some sponsors in the elite. Otherwise he would have been shot.
My theory is that this elite still exists to some form and shape but has since been superceded by a jewish cabal which now controls the institutions and levers of control (i.e. the CIA secret police, NSA spying, and 6 wicked sisters of American media). I think many have intermarried or come to accept the jewish cabal and some are not as paranoid as they should be about how organised and planned it is.
The only thing Im confused about is:
1. Just how much the divide really is between the people that run Israel and the ones that run the US.
2. Why was Nixon removed.
3. Specifically how the elites bring a new member into the fold. As you saw with Bezos getting the Washington Post, he probably was introduced to some members of the elite and told what they expect the paper to do and how his other business could be helped if he plays ball.
My best guess is that the elite are many of the same people that run the CFR. Or at least that the CFR is a good sample of the elite.
The CIA does what this elite says. Not what the president says.
My theory is that even if the system really was republican and elections really did matter initially, it would not be long before feudalism set in, by either taking control in key institutions like the courts.media, secret police or more formally by telling the politicans what to do. This is because feudalism is the default state of civilised man. In reality there are no other systems outside feudalism. Even communism as was practised under Stalin and Mao was feudalism. The dream of Paine, Jefferson et al died with them.
The way the “feudal lords” maintain their power determines the econmic system. Atleast thats how i interpret Marx.
“Even communism as was practised under Stalin and Mao was feudalism.”
“Even communism as was practised under Stalin and Mao was feudalism.”
No! It became faudalism, atleast in russia
Actually there is one feature of the western system that is very unique today but not historically and that is that its elite is to some degree ‘foreign’. I.e. it does not share the same genetics or kinship as the people it rules and is actively trying to replace them. This was also the case for periods of the 20th and 21st centuries in Russia as mentioned by Kevin McDonald.
This is similar to the Mongols ruling China under the Yuan.
Of course it does. Ashkenazi jews have a lot more european ancestry than middle-eastern. This is why i said this before too. I think you not getting the fact that they are whites is leading to comments like this.
They are white. They have blond-hair and blue eyes, some of them with skin even whiter than of other whites. Some of them even have red hair. You dont find this in middle eastern people at all.
I think they’re about an equal mix of white and Middle Eastern:
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/europes-ashkenazi-jews-are-50-54-middle-eastern/
Ive always found it funny that WN like to bash on Jews when they are genetically very similar. Its like an Turk bashing people from kuwait or bosnia.
Puppy person belives that many psychological traits are mendelian, so he thinks that jews were bred to become like they are.
There are two factors that predict ethnic conflict:
1) genetic similarity (more similar, less conflict)
2) geographic distance (less proximity, less conflict)
Since these two predictors are negatively correlated, being low on #2 can negate being high on #1.
Think of sibling rivalry.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/23/robert-mueller-year-of-successes-2018-donald-trump
You think this guy is really investigating Russian interference?
His role is to remind Trump not to do anything to hasty. He is a lapdog.
and while “great french engineer” is an oxymoron, “great french mathematician” and “great french scientist” is NOT.
The elites are pretty tribal. I.e. the chinese elites don’t want foreignors. The russian elites dont want them. Etc etc. I.e. Smart people, the real elites are generally tribal.
The only ‘elites’ in the world that want to be overrun by barbarians are not the actual elites.
The roman elites, didn’t want huns to live in Rome.
unruhe also said he expects macron will be forced out.
i agree.
he’s very young for a head of state and his wife isn’t just older, but a lot older.
she’s a beard.
he’s a wimp.
My dad isn’t just a retard. Hes also a coward, really uncool and likes to lie. If his IQ was 20 or 30 points higher he would be bordering on typical jewish behaviours. Hes basically the complete opposite to what I think a man should be.
If my verbal IQ was about 10 to 20 points higher, I’d be an eminent genius. Just for your consideration, Puppy Person.
Puppy morality has nothing to do with IQ from everything I can see.
“morality” has nothing to do with IQ.
morality has…is IQ.
it was a frenchman who said:
he never said that.
he might as well have. It comes from a 1906 biography by Evelyn Beatrice Hall, in which it was intended to represent a summary of his thinking on free speech issues.
https://www.football-italia.net/132446/balotelli-racism-documentary
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The name of the anti racism documentary is ‘I AM NOT A MONKEY” HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
IF YOU WANT AN EXAMPLE OF A PEOPLE WHO’VE BEEN LOSING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS…
MAYBE IT’S TIME THEY WIN!
FOR THE DUMB…THOSE “PEOPLE” ARE THE CELTS…
THE DARK GREEN IN THE MAP IS WHERE CELTIC LANGUAGES ARE STILL SPOKEN.
BUT MAYBE THE CELTS DIDN’T LOSE. MAYBE IT’S JUST THAT THEIR LANGUAGES WERE MORE DIFFICULT TO LEARN.
ANYWAY…I FORGOT ANOTHER THING WHICH SUGGESTS FRANCE ISN’T 100% GAY.
european men can be pretty boys and hunks at the same time. black men can only be hunks. yellow men can’t be either.
madonna even made a song about it.
THIS ONE PICTURE EXPRESSES MY OPINIONS REGARDING HBD AS WELL AS ANY SINGLE PICTURE MAY.
because the true theory of sexual attraction is…
difference + beauty = non-perverted attraction
If no one’s caught on yet, I’m Puppy Person aka the Philosopher. AHAHAHAHAHA! SAD!
all jews can do is EXPLOIT the system.
they can’t MAKE the system.
so…
…they’re able to point out flaws in any system (via exploitation).
God’s chosen people…
…so chosen…
…because they are God’s chosen critics…
the sticky brown pool of distilled alt-right filth is…
the group is more than the sum of its individual members.
the individualist ideology is FALSE.
P = G + E is FALSE.
the alt-right is not right. it’s just more right than anyone else…by A LOT.
but “great philosophers” = french need not apply.
it’s just jerries since 1750.
kant
hegel
nietzsche
marx
heidgger
the first man who made me squirt was james dean. not james dean. not james deen. but jimmy dean. dude has the best sausage.
King meLo ,
Is there an negative correlation between brain size and neuron density? Is it strong?
“Is there an negative correlation between brain size and neuron density”
Yes, Check this out:
https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11252638
Would you say that the correlation between the total amount of neurons and iq is higher than the correlation between brain volume and iq?
I only skimmed the article so forgive me if I’m confusing the issue, but perhaps it’s analogous brain size/body size ratio. The bigger the brain, the smaller the brain size/body size ratio for the simple reason that the biggest bodies are far bigger than the biggest brains. Analogously, the biggest brains might be far bigger than the biggest number of neurons, thus causing a reduction in the neuron number/brain size ratio (density) as you move up the brain size ladder.
In general scientists have learned to avoid ratios, so instead of asking, does joe have a high x/y ratio, they instead ask, is joe’s x higher that expected, given joe’s y.
Pumpkin,
“Analogously, the biggest brains might be far bigger than the biggest number of neurons, thus causing a reduction in the neuron number/brain size ratio (density) as you move up the brain size ladder.”
Well it won’t let me copy anything from the article for whatever reason, but I believe the reasoning for this is because of the wire-optimization hypothesis. Basically, only an optimal amount of wiring is needed to retain necessary connections So wiring increases at a slower rate than other cellular genesis because it can be redundant(though I also believe it can provide advantages like circuit redundancy). It’s a massively over simplified version of what they’re trying to say. I’d suggest reading section 3, Fig 1ab, and 2ab to get a better idea.
There’s a paragraph at he bottom that discusses how brain mass scales against body mass with an exponent of 3/4
Also, I believe Instead of adding more wring(increasing density), encephalization instead tends to enlarge neurons which also means more glial cells are produced to compensate.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4685590/
Thinking mouse
“Would you say that the correlation between the total amount of neurons and iq is higher than the correlation between brain volume and iq?”
I’m not sure. I think that would depend on the relationship between non-neuronal brain cells and intelligence. Brain composition is a far more accurate indicator of intelligence than pure brain size, but it can be useful if included with other information.
King meLo ,
“Brain composition is a far more accurate indicator of intelligence than pure brain size”
???
What part of that statement confuses you?
The Neuron and it’s dendrites are the lowest computational units of the brain. Thus, if IQ does measure any sort of efficiency in thinking, it should have a high correlation to Neuronal activity. Organization and structure of brain cells varies even within species. So even if we knew that Glial cells were just as important(driving the correlation with total amount of Neurons), brain cell composition would still be a better indicator of IQ
i was just having a conversation with my parents about why they didn’t believe in evolution, and they posed a question asking why monkeys, our supposed ancestors, are still not evolving. If anyone has any good arguments against the claim that evolution is not an actual process because we don’t see animals continually evolving, I’d love to hear it. I’m sure you’ve all talked about it in other posts or a quick Google search would come up with information, but I’d rather hear your thoughts on why the mechanism of evolution has ceased.
My argument was that when a split in a species happens, there is a deterioration in the ability to mate with your previous ancestors. I believe it’s due to allopatric speciation, where a species “becomes isolated” (quick Google search gave me that term) and then cannot reproduce with the initial population. So evolution comes about very gradually and will only act under selective pressures that allow a population to evolve, and then that population that did evolved undergoes allopatric speciation. But why are there no selective pressures for animals to evolve today? Is anyone familiar with any examples of why organisms aside from maybe bacteria are staying stagnant, evolutionarily speaking?
Just explain that extant monkeys are our cousins and that extinct monkeys are our common ancestors. Because extant monkeys remained in the ancestral environment (trees), they evolved much less humans who left the trees for new environments. New environments requires new bodies and new brains.
Ah, great analysis, thanks Pumpkin. If anyone asks why I believe in evolution, I will use that argument.
Yeah, both of my parents are or were in STEM related fields, yet fail to acknowledge evolution. So it goes to show you that people even in science will have deluded worldviews depending on their upbringing or brainwashing or whatever. There is no consensus even amongst scientists on what is proven and what is just theory. But I commend you on making a strong argument in favor of evolution.
I have just listened to this excellent interview. Everything being the same that in the book, but you see more Reich subjectivity. Here some thoughts I had while listening Reich, unrelated to questions of the content of the technical content of the book, but more to his general stance about the field :
1) Reich said the blogger are often able to spot patterns in ancient dna data that (Harvard) Researchers don’t, and they bring a very positive contribution to the science. That’s a very nice acknowledgment that the bloggers community shoud emphasize.
2) He said those Bloggers are often right-wing (he didn’t said alt-right) because they sea the scientist are often reluctant to speak about differences among group they see.
He believes those technical bloggers would be far more likely to abandon their right wing views – contrary to uninformed polemist bloggers – if the scientific community would be more willing to discuss those problems. –> thats pure self-delusion or up-front lie from Reich because its an internal contradiction. His position would work with beotian, not with informed people by definition, that operate on the same ground than scientist.
This is his posture : let’s face the facts and we dont know what we will see, but it wont confirm prejudices. See German/Aryan from the XIX (in this subject not discussed here, he is very ambigous and certainly lying).
3) I see, as a jewish person maybe, he is fascinated by endogamous groups. And I’ve been very interested myself by the vaisha from Uttara-pradesh, who are traders and financiers like the jewish, that I believed have developped an even higher IQ than jewish people in Verbal and numerical (If Jewish were 125V/115N/95S), those indian would be around 10 points higher. So the details he gave about a mutation, of MTHFR type I am not sure, that make some anaesthetic chemicals deadly. And he showed how jewish orthodox, that practice arrange weddings, were able to make the mutation disappear from the group. It really looks like he loves HBD and his tribe and likewise tribes.
This news makes an interesting link between ashkenazim and Uttar Pradesh elites. Here Nehru-Gandhi family :
https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-member-of-indias-nehru-dynasty-dies-at-108/amp/
Uttar Pradesh is where my maternal grandparents and my paternal grandmother come from. Don’t know too much about the place other than its location being in Northern India and that the Uttar Pradesh Brahmins being the most successful group of Brahmins in India. I would have to agree, they are a very intellectually successful group of people. I don’t know if they compare to the Askhenazim populations because they are so populous, but in terms of raw intellectual achievement, they are probably right up there.
Some dravidian Brahmin from Chennai (former traders who were sanskritized) seems to be even higher in average. Those are the two most exceptional groups among the 5000 endogamous groups in India ….
Yeah, as I said, Im limited in my knowledge of India and ihe many people that live there, but Tamils are also an extradorinary group of people. Southern Indians tend to outperform northern Indians in general. Overall, very high caliber people in terms of intellectual pursuits.
Bruno,
sanskrit has derived a lot from dravidian languages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravidian_languages#Dravidian_influence_on_Sanskrit