Most elite Americans publicly deny HBD. Some people think this is because HBD is pseudoscience, and elites are smart enough to realize that. Other people, like Lion of the Blogosphere, think it’s because even smart people are irrational, and just believe whatever their peers believe. Others, like commenter “Mug of Pee” think only the most brainwashed people are selected to become elites (though Mug of Pee agrees with their HBD denial, he thinks elites are brainwashed in other areas).
In my opinion, the truth is much simpler: elites deny HBD because they are LYING.
In the past I mentioned the below video (go to the 57 minute mark), where Charles Murray claims the fiercest critics of his book The Bell Curve were privately fans, and we the public would be stunned to learn who the fans are (apparently some of the biggest liberals in academia).
This shows there’s a large population of elites who will not only publicly deny HBD despite secretly believing it, but go out of their way to attack HBDers.
Now you might say Murray is an HBDer, why should we believe him when he says “liberal” academics secretly believe in HBD?
But his claim is corroborated by eminent HBD denier Jared Diamond (47:52 mark in below video) who says when he secretly asks members of the elite (a cabinet minister, a high tech leader, many university professors), they shamefully confess to being HBDers.
It’s not just white elites and it’s not just HBD they lie about. Many were shocked that politically correct establishment darling Joy Reid secretly had some controversial views when it comes to Israel.
So contra Mug of Pee, elites are not selected based on what they actually believe; rather most humans are liars, and high IQ people know which lies will get them ahead (though the super-duper high IQ may refuse to lie because of more developed morals).
The Pope is not necessarily Catholic.
Pumpkin Person 
More than that puppy. The morality police i.e. jews mostly believe it even though they invented a morality that says believing in it is the most profound evil.
Jared diamonds theory is correct. It explains why humans that left africa evolved further/domesticated more. What diamond is saying is disingenious. His explanation os for time periods thousands of years long to the point of it being an irrelevant but still correct observation.
Why is swanky unbanned? Swanky ‘s comments are literally copy and pastes from cnn. Such an idiot. That white men need to pay for slavery comment is the dumbest fucking comment ive ever read on any website. So bad. Why is he unbanned?
Swank can’t be unbanned because he wasn’t banned in the first place.
I would guess jews like stephen jay gould actually know more aboit hbd than any of the bloggers like hbd chick or steve sailer. I bet he could tell you what happens when you triple africas population
Hbd isnt a pseudoscuence. Current science is pseudoscience. Basically a gigantic coverup contra whites to make them more placid hosts for our chosen ones like swanky. Seanky will now male 14 comments about why hbd is a pseudoscience because rabbi tim wise said so.
We’ve already discussed Jews. Your constant obsession with them is boring & disrespectful to my Jewish readers (many of whom believe in HBD). Mug of Pee is actually a far more vicious critic of HBD than Swank.
No wr havent discussed jews. You never even mention then in any of your posts even though its the most important detail in 90% of the topics you write about.
I’ve mentioned jews lots of times. My last post i even discussed the super taboo kevin macdonald. But I’m not reductionist enough to think jews and only jews explain everything like you are.
I am not sure here.
I interact with engineers (masters degree in our country), upper ranks in terms of achievement and intelligence.
STEM graduates are more intelligent and I would say more rational than average folks. Yet, in private conversations substantial minority are deniers and liberals. For people more oriented to humanities it’s much worse.
In the West most elites holding political power are humanities graduates. Some of the elites are hard liars but in my opinion majority are simply true believers.
Yeah, I think I can attest to this. I don’t think people come across others who are intellectually disabled to the point where it leaves a lasting impression on them. For this very reason, I think there is very little support of HBD topics. I think the best argument would be why doesn’t the typical layman accept HBD if he has no consequences to do so. You would think that regular folk would believe in something so “obvious” as HBD, but they don’t. So there’s an argument for both sides.
Personally, I’m a firm believer in genetics. some populations are predisposed to certain genetics than others. it mostly comes from sexual selection, which can be altered in a matter of generations. so to think that the cornerstone beliefs of HBD are held in stone is retarded.
Yet, in private conversations substantial minority are deniers and liberals.
Substantial minority? So the majority were not HBD deniers in private?
For people more oriented to humanities it’s much worse.
In the West most elites holding political power are humanities graduates.
A lot of politicians have law backgrounds, where there’s more critical thinking, especially among the tiny subset who are smart enough to get political power.
Yes, majority. But do not forget that those are STEM graduates. This is not true for the rest.
Yes, law schools should cultivate critical thinking, or did in the past (except period of communism). But at least in my CE/EE perspective few politicians have law degree* and even less from top universities. Most obtained degrees in areas like political science other humanities and economy. I would not suspect politicians of possession of crystal critical thinking.
* In our region there is an obsession with university titles. And few universities awarded/sold titles to politicians – law and other humanities.
Note: The obsession goes so far that in formal conversation (or by those without degree) you are “titled” mr. whoever. This obsession is absent in Anglo-Saxon world.
You think that respected scientists lie?
Yep.
I hate white people cuz theyre so entitled. I cant think of another race as entitled as whites. They dont work hard for anything they have and expect everything. Does that sound fair to you?
What the hell piece of thrash is this? Loaded is onviously a certain commenter who should be BANNED but posts under this new loaded moniker as a fig leaf for his hack views.
Dude, I’m not Afro. read half my comments and if you had any intelligence at all, you’d be keen to pick up the fact that I’m clearly a) an American, b) under the age of 25, c) not black, etc. You should be banned for having such a low IQ that you can’t even pick up on basic cues like the ones that I’ve given.
Muh social IQ. where’s your social IQ now, you degenerate clown!?
I empathize with you because you’re schizo and I lean towards schizo too. But I’m starting to think you’re not schizo, you’re autistic as fuck.
Loaded and Afro are obviously two completely different people. The fact that you think they’re the same shows extremely low social IQ.
LOADED and Afro do share some fun traits though. Specifically the traits that annoys mr intellectual philatio. All LOADED needs to do is defend Israel and anti arab politics along with some photos of male models that are #onfleek 🙂
Schizophrenics usually have low Social IQs. None of this stupidity should be surprising.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2215001314000262?via%3Dihub
Ah, see meLo, I agree with that article that schizophrenics have much lower social cognition and theory of Mind than people without it. However, I would say that if you controlled for IQ, for background (because people who fall victim to schizophrenia tend to be of a lower income generally), and realized that schizophrenia is disease that rapidly deteriorates one’s connection with the world, then you could say that their social cognition is still pretty decent with all the setbacks they face.
Theory of Mind is obviously going to take a major hit because there is a lot of stimuli coming in that blocks people from actually assessing what’s real and what’s not. But social cognition is what I said it is, that being held for background and intelligence quotient of the individuals, we’d find that they probably do just fine. At least that would be my hunch. I don’t know if they’d do better than the average person, but someone with schizophrenic tendencies certainly does, so maybe like psychopathy, having a few traits will benefit you and having the full-blown diagnosis will set you back.
Also, I would like to know anyone’s thoughts on what they think of schizophrenia being characterized as the opposite of narcissism, or at least at the end of the narcissistic spectrum. I’d have to say that schizos themselves are less narcissistic in general but the disease can easily share comorbidity with narcissism, such as delusions of grandeur, etc. Just want peoples’ thoughts on the disease because I’ve struggled a lot with tendencies to revert to this state of mind due to my cannabis use.
Also, there is no doubt in my mind that digit ratio plays a huge part in schizophrenia. Generally, not always, but generally, a high digit ratio implicates better social skills, greater callousness, and schizophrenic tendencies/full-blown schizophrenia. Digit ratio is like a pet project of mine that I want to search answers for because it is so ground-breaking, intriguing, and insightful into a person’s life.
Actually I believe the study did control for economic background and IQ, I would have to check again though because I’ve only taken a quick glance at it.
What the study showed was that schizophrenics knew basic social norms but they still had a deficit in theory of mind. What this implies is that schizophrenic can still culturally learn the proper behavioral responses to certain social situations but that they still cannot actually determine someone’s intentions. Which of course is an ability that HBDers misattribute to them.
Regarding the relation between narcissism and schizophrenia,space I do believe that schizophrenia or the major symptoms we usually associated with schizophrenia I’ll have one mental process in commmon semicolon ego dissolution
Sorry I pressed reply too early on accident.
regarding the relation between narcissism and schizophrenia I do believe that the major symptoms we usually associate with schizophrenia(hallucinations, paranoia) alll have one mental process in common: ego dissolution.
Do you have a source for the digital ratio claims?
My understanding is that schizophrenics over-infer intention while autistics under-infer it. So pehaps as loaded said, a little bit of schizophrenia makes you socially intelligent, but full schizophrenia impairs social IQ.
Analogously, a little bit of autism makes you technologically intelligent, but full autism leads to retardation.
Yes, meLo, the information on schizophrenia and digit ratio are plentiful; looking at one Google search brought me plenty of results. However, only a few corroborate my belief that a higher digit ratio leads to schizophrenia, with most implying that a it is the difference between the left and right hand digit ratios, with more skewed digit ratios in one hand than another, leading to schizophrenia. Here’s one study that corroborates what I was saying:
http://www.academia.edu/867967/Increased_ratio_of_2nd_to_4th_digit_2D_4D_in_schizophrenia
And here’s another that shows how the differences in the digit ratios between each hand links to schizophrenia:
https://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/schizophrenia-and-psychoses/finger-length-may-predict-schizophrenia/article/403887/
“The researchers found that the participants with schizophrenia had asymmetrical ratios on the right and left hands. On their right hands, those with schizophrenia had a higher 2D:4D ratio than controls. On their left hands, they had lower 2D:4D ratios than controls”
the asymmetry part seems interesting. makes sense too, just can’t put my finger on why. I think it’s because they seem to display so much asymmetry in thought pattern, etc that it feels like it makes sense.
Also, ego dissolution was what I was looking for. Yes, that makes perfect sense. From my perspective I would liken psychosis or schizophrenia to an ego death similar to that of a psychedelic trip, where every construct of your mind is falling apart, so ego dissolution makes sense to me.
On the other hand, delusions of grandeur would be a contradiction against that premise, but it could relate to the fact that someone trying to keep their mind intact would want to see themselves as something greater than themselves to cope with the suffering or even to give meaning to their suffering. But any other theories would be great for why delusions of grandeur would exist in someone going through ego dissolution.
The greatest artists lean schizo for a reason. Because they can see what others cannot, they suffer what others don’t, and they feel the compassion and empathy to try to relate these ideas to other people. So like Pumpkin’s agreement with me, I would reiterate how milder forms of schizo can benefit an individual socially and artistically.
” I think it’s because they seem to display so much asymmetry in thought pattern, etc that it feels like it makes sense.”
From what I know digit ratio does not affect thought symmetry but, I could be wrong. Higher levels of testosterone in womb development have been linked to high digit ratio. Blacks have higher levels of free testosterone and have higher chances of being diagnosed with schizophrenia as well as leaning toward schizotypal personalities. Of course, all of these relationships are not perfect. I know of at least one population where the DR and T correlation is nonexistent and if Autism and schizophrenia exist within a spectrum, matching race to some extent(which is still debatable), then any correlation with T will be spurious at best. As RR has spewed ad infinium, Races vary little in T, with blacks maybe having a slight lead.
“I would liken psychosis or schizophrenia to an ego death similar to that of a psychedelic trip, where every construct of your mind is falling apart, so ego dissolution makes sense to me.”
From what limited studies have been done, Schizophrenia is the only psychological disorder where Psybicilin and LSD do not have beneficial medical effects. Maybe ketamine too, I’d have dig up the study. Ill post it if you’re interested, but the methodology in these papers is too deficient to make meaningful conclusions. Simply because research with psychedelics like this is too new.
“someone trying to keep their mind intact would want to see themselves as something greater than themselves to cope with the suffering or even to give meaning to their suffering.”
This is possible. I imagine having severe schizophrenia is akin to tripping 24/7 so theoretically there should be a mental mechanism for coping with this to some degree.
Yeah, free levels of T might vary little, but I think DHT and androgen receptors vary sufficiently by race, causing major differences in the behaviors and physicalities of different races. Also, I posit that blacks are more predisposed to schizophrenia because they’re dopamine is higher than normal, so are other neurotransmitters, but I’m just speculating.
Also, yeah, I’d like to see that study about psychedelics and ketamine not being effective for schizophrenia. That seems interesting.
“so are other neurotransmitters, but I’m just speculating.”
Yeah, one of the issues with Schizophrenia is how complex of a disease it is.
“Also, yeah, I’d like to see that study about psychedelics and ketamine not being effective for schizophrenia. That seems interesting.”
Unfortunately I couldn’t find the original study but here is something similar: http://www.ncurproceedings.org/ojs/index.php/NCUR2017/article/viewFile/2243/1179
Ah, thanks, meLo, you’re the man!
Most elites believe differently from what they profess. For example, take the Chinese communist party where it seems like Mao was the only true believer and everyone after him was a closet capitalist. Putin and the oligarch Khordorovsky were Communist party members.
Lying successfully takes more iq because it requires more mental resources.
I think a good liar doesnt need to have mental resources, just the trust of the people he or she is trying to manipulate. A great liar needs that and the power to cover up his lies.
I hate when people talk about elites. Elites this, elites that. Elites are not cooperating with one another and trying to consolidate power. Maybe white elites are, bit other elites are very individualistoc. There is no room for trying to create a perfect system where they will dominate. Elites fall in and out of power all the time.
First of all, elites are dependent on a system where they are vulnerable to technological advances. There is no elite who is self sustainimg enough to withstand technological progress. They take a gamble and hope it works in their favor. We forget elites are also human and thus are emotionally governed entities/creatures. Only the most psychopathic individuals can succeed and build power by not having emotions dictate their actions, and those psychopathic enough will not cooperate without personal gain and a reward greater than those involved in that scheme, because they wanna be WINNERS. There is no time to coordinate everything perfectly so they can win. In the end, they are GENETIC winners and INDIVIDUAL losers for trying to build and contain a system in which they will outright gather enough resources to succeed in what they want to see success in.
Loaded, in philosopher’s demented mind there are no white elites let alone black elites: 100% of elites are Jewish. The so-called white elites are just autistic people brainwashed by bob rubin & the so-called black elites are just ghetto thugs that bob rubin picked up off the street.
I mean, I sympathize with that but he obviously needs to get a reality check if he doesn’t think there are psychopathic white elites preying on people. The whites were in power for so long that they forgot how to rule effectively and that’s why they lost the stronghold. He may be right, Jews are taking power and effectively using it to consolidate it amongst themselves, but what he doesn’t understand is that not everything is planned. Technology changes so rapidly that people cannot stay in power for that long without monopolizing it. and what about the Chinese!? I mean, I guess I can see Chinese elites wanting the Jews to internally destroy America and Europe, but why would the Jews literally pave the way for the Chinese to take over? the whole thing is too complicated to even try to sort out, so it just angers me when someone with such a low IQ like the Philosopher even tries.
Pupptly literallly bworships a magic negro then turns around and wags his finger at me for being delusional. Sadface.
I’m not black, you dumbfuck.
If you can guess what ethnic group I belong to, I’ll stop commenting on this blog. you have to be very specific though.
Iberian
Try again, Thinking Mouse. I’ll give you 3 tries and if you can’t get it, I’ll just post the percentage results of my actual DNA data that implicates my ethnicity.
Good guess, though I’m not European. Also, my peoples aren’t really known for intellectual pursuits in any way, but in HBD terms, we’re still about 10 IQ points better off than the African genetic potential.
Northern Indian.
Yes, my ancestry is Northern Indian though most of my relatives live in Pakistan. I am a Muslim by birth, but no longer practice that wretched religion. What about yourself?
One of those Pumpkin posts that makes me go (I know I’ve used this before):
https://goo.gl/images/sWs9LM
Damn i wanted the gif to show.
If anyone is interested in meeting the world’s most genetically diverse person who doesn’t have any black or Asian ancestry, verified by multiple DNA sites from HarappaWorld to Ancestry to FamilyTreeDNA to MyHeritage, I’d be happy to post my results from all those sites to satisfy Philo’s stupid notions that I’m secretly Afro.
re-write this article and remove all of the beliefs you have MIS-attributed to me.
ONLY sociopaths like [redacted by pp, dec 22, 2018] and peepee are liars. the only people at the top who aren’t true believers are sociopaths.
and by true believers i’m NOT referring to true belief that HBD is false.
i’ll say what i’ve said 100 times ON THIS BLOG.
the purpose of anti-HBD affirmations by white gentile elites is to distinguish themselves from poor whites. it’s vitue/class signalling.
jewish elites have the added motivation of weakening the position of their only competitors for world domination.
SO WHAT WHITE GENTILE ELITES BELIEVE MOST ABOUT HBD IS THAT THEIR SUCCESS AND INTELLIGENCE IS INNATE. THE RACE STUFF THEY SIMPLY DON;T CARE ABOUT, BECAUSE IT DOESN’T AFFECT THEM. THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW ANY BLACK PEOPLE.
The point is if elites lie so brazenly about their HBD beliefs to get ahead, what makes you think they believe the other crap they push?
REPEAT WHAT I’VE POSTED HERE BEFORE…TEXACO SENIOR EXECUTIVES WERE RECORDED RIDICULING THEIR BLACK UNDERLINGS. THEN PAUL NEWMAN WAS HIRED TO VOICE THEIR PR CAMPAIGN.
I’M BOB DOLE AND PEEPEE IS DAN RATHER.
“STOP LYING ABOUT MY RECORD!”
[redacted by pp, dec 22, 2018]
i mean peepee is BUSH 1.
ANOTHER THING I’VE SAID HERE ON THIS BLOG. BIG COMPANIES ONLY CLAIM TO PRACTICE AA IN ORDER TO AVOID LAW SUITS.
BUT PEOPLE CAN BE RACISTS AND ANTI-RACIST AT THE SAME TIME, PRECISELY BECAUSE “RACISM” HAS CEASED TO MEAN ANYTHING.
THE ELITE WHO ARE RACISTS IN THE ORIGINAL SENSE ARE NIL.
NO ONE CAN BELIEVE IN NAZI RACIAL “THEORIES” OR THAT RACE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DETERMINANT OF PERSONALITY.
BUT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE CAN BELIEVE THAT INDIVIDUALS AND RACES ARE NOT IDENTICAL FOR SANGUINAL REASONS.
The point is elites pretend to believe Gould when they really believe Jensen. This debunks your claim that “the Pope is Catholic” and elites are selected based on what they actually believe. Instead they very skillfully select what they pretend to believe to become elites and are constantly adapting their social mask to the changing environment. You hear elites on TV talking about Russia, or capitalism or American exceptionalism and assume they were selected for “autism”, when in reality they may be more skeptical than you are, but are too ambitious/evil/intelligent to admit it.
PumpkinPerson
Question 1.
Is there any study on people adopted to elite environments? We could compare them with normal adopties. I guess you would have talked about then already.
Question 2.
Is the perdictive power of IQ linear? meaning if i theoretically increased the iq of an group, would the probability of them having certain abilies change the same irregardless of their initial iq before the increase. I would guess it depends on the ability/trait discussed. Is there any trait that have this “linear” property?
peepee knows about joy reid because joy reid is a black woman like peepee.
peepee has single handedly convinced me that black people are genetically stupid.
because peepee’s stupid can’t be explained by a shitty or uncongenial environment. it’s too profound. like with down’s syndrome.
this is the 1,000th time i’ve said this on peepee’s blog.
but because peepee is genetically inferior she keeps claiming i dis-believe HBD.
You equivocate on HBD.
On the one hand you tell Lion:
HBD is disproved: http://humanvarieties.org/2013/05/03/hvgiq-bermuda/
not a single HBDer understands norms of reaction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_norm
if they did they would understand why the heritability statistic is close to meaningless.
Then when he critiques your source you walk it back, denying only the “simplistic version of HBD”.
So let’s try to pin you down. If all the independent genomic effects on IQ could be found and expressed as a polygenic score, how large would the U.S. black-white gap in said scores be in SD units?
Since your memory on Mugabes posts is so well organized. Do you know around what time period he commented on InfoProc? i want to read his stuff 🙂
it’s funny. if you had a little money and wanted to make your descendants rich 100 years from now you’d buy hitler’s paintings.
for a low IQ autistic person this is hard to grok…
1. the primary motivation of all pole climbers is status. they can’t distinguish between what they want and what they think. ideas are in fact mere means for them, but they don’t know it, just like they are motivated by status but don’t know it. they’re slaves.
2. the economic system precedes its ideas, its ideological system. that is, the system of ideas is merely self-contradictory jive with purpose the justification of the system.
3. a true believer needn’t be consistent. nor need he be aware of what he believes.
4. the sociopath is merely a semi-self-aware autist. he is aware that the system of ideas is just jive, but he is not aware that he is a slave and status whore.
1. the primary motivation of all pole climbers is status.
Bullshit. Many just care about money and power.
they can’t distinguish between what they want and what they think.
Bullshit. They say what they really think in private and say what they’re supposed to think in public.
ideas are in fact mere means for them, but they don’t know it, just like they are motivated by status but don’t know it. they’re slaves.
They’re slaves to their evolved need for status, wealth and power, and the system merely exploits those needs. A hungry man is a slave for food whether he knows it or not.
4. the sociopath is merely a semi-self-aware autist. he is aware that the system of ideas is just jive, but he is not aware that he is a slave and status whore.
Both the sociopath and the saint are slaves to their desire for “success” and both can be fully aware of it, but the former is also a slave to “guilt”. This gives the sociopath a competitive advantage. He has one less master to serve.
most of the elite (like 96%) adapt without being aware that’s what they’re doing. they’re sheep who don’t see they’re shepherd.
sociopaths value adaptation per se but are unaware of the master on their back driving them to adapt to its ends.
marx might’ve been a little too paranoid.
like pill he assumes that “the system” is designed by those it ranks highest. but pill and marx are right that the elite is very class conscious, or as chomsky says, extremely marxist.
interesting unz came up with my rabies analogy independently…i assume.
Or to apply a far harsher biological metaphor, consider a poor canine infected with the rabies virus. The virus may have no brain and its body-weight is probably less than one-millionth that of the host, but once it has seized control of the central nervous system, the animal, big brain and all, becomes a helpless puppet.
Once friendly Fido runs around foaming at the mouth, barking at the sky, and trying to bite all the other animals it can reach. Its friends and relatives are saddened by its plight but stay well clear, hoping to avoid infection before the inevitable happens, and poor Fido finally collapses dead in a heap.
sociopaths value adaptation per se but are unaware of the master on their back driving them to adapt to its ends.
Sociopaths value adaption to their primitive needs (money, sex, status), because they lack more evolved needs to adapt to (i.e. morality). It has nothing to do with awareness it has to do with feelings. All conscious behavior is about increasing your pleasure/pain ratio. The sociopath feels no pain when he harms others so he’s free to devote all his IQ to seeking pleasure. Thus high IQ sociopaths are the richest and most powerful demographic.
so VERY embarrassing. i meant to say…
most of the elite (like 96%) adapt without being aware that that’s what they’re doing. they’re sheep who don’t see they’re shepherded. (or sheep who don’t see their shepard.)
sociopaths value adaptation per se but are unaware of the master on their back driving them to adapt to
itshis ends.marx might’ve been a little too paranoid.
like pill he assumes that “the system” is designed by those it ranks highest. but pill and marx are right that the elite is very class conscious, or as chomsky says, extremely marxist.
The analysis is what’s embarrassing, not the grammar.
so the alt-right (or at least strike and mike) go beyond unruhe and say…
not only is ethnicity used to prevent the proles from gaining class consciousness, not only is diversity an impediment to the proletarian revolution, but..
1. this is human nature. it’s not imposed by capital.
2. iceland isn’t iceland when it’s half baljeets.
one might ask, “what sort of people are capitalists that they care only about profit?”
this question is an example of the pill-style paranoia.
there is a system which not only promotes its believers, but also ties the hands of those it’s promoted.
for example: every business competes on price, so it has no choice but to seek cheap labor.
so contra marx and those obsessed with jews the problems aren’t us and them. the problems are the system.
the alt-right seeks a society without contradictions and antagonisms, a society without white [redacted by pp, dec 22, 2018] and without n[redacted by pp, dec 22, 2018]…
it seeks the final aufhebung, the squaring of hegel’s circle.
Pumpkin I applaud you on this post well done bravo! into the rabbit hole we go!
People tells themselves individual and stories all the time that allows them to get long term satisfaction (versus happiness) and a sense of belonging to the world (versus nihilism).
When people had their hemisphere cut, they were always inventing stories about all what wouldn’t make sense. That’s not really a lie because it’s reallt deeply associated with our selfand our cortex control of experiences.
Individual and social stories
This new Bruno sounds like someone (Philo ?) imitating me. It’s quite good on the form but a bit weak on the content 😊
I don’t even remember approving those comments. That was almost 2 years ago
peepee keeps jiving and jiving and jiving…
the point is…
oprah is disgusting…
the elite finds oprah disgusting…
but finds thelonious sphere monk a genius…
because he is.
because she is.
The elite find you far more disgusting than they find Oprah, especially the straight female and gay male elite. The low IQ straight male elite might like you though, but they’d make sure you were out of view when their girlfriends or mothers visit.
Puppy oprah is seen by the real elite – rubin, schwarzmann, rubenstein and co – as a dancing ape put there for the entertainment of the goys.
LOL! They can think what they want. She’s more elite than they are as proven by the fact that she elected a president who fucked up their plans in the Middle East
When will you get it that Oprah isn’t an elite. Even Bill Gates is not an elite and hes much richer.
An elite is someone with political power to make people do things that would normally be against their interest.
Thats my definiton.
That definition is way too broad to be meaningful. My definition is anyone who has ever been on this list:
https://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/list/#tab:overall
That forbes list is way more broad a category than my definition. By my definition there are about 4 or 5 people on the US forbes list that can force people to do stuff.
Force which people do to stuff? Even people living in poverty in Africa can force pygmies to be their slaves.
“Even people living in poverty in Africa can force pygmies to be their slaves.”
No they can’t. Not as individuals. Im talking about individual power not group power.
There are billions of people who can force people do what they want (school yard bullies, thugs with guns). Perhaps you mean force U.S. presidents to do what they want. By that definition I agree Oprah’s not an elite but at her peak she was probably closer to being one than virtually any other living black or female at the time.
There is and was definitely other females that had power. E.g. this woman – Carla Hills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_Anderson_Hills
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The irony that a life is worth more today than in the past when considering the population explosion.
Just one thing to consider.