John Carpenter’s original 1978 Halloween (not to be confused with Rob Zombie’s underrated Halloween reboots) was arguably the best horror film ever made (even though it could have been better). It’s about Michael Myers, a six-year-old boy who stabs his babysitting older sister to death on Halloween night, spends 15 years in a mental hospital, then escapes and returns to his hometown to slaughter more babysitters on Halloween night, the only survivor being virgin Laurie Strode, played by Jamie Lee Curtis.
In Halloween II we learn that Laurie is actually Michael Myers’s (yes you use ‘s after a name that ends in s, contra my beloved grade 10 English teacher) long lost sister, but Halloween (2018) is ignoring Halloween II and all the other sequels, so in this film, she’s not Myers’s sister, she’s just the one surviving babysitter from his original massacre.
Carpenter never liked the sister plot-twist (even though he wrote it) because giving Myers a motive ruins his mystery. But the motive itself was so mysterious that to me it added to his mystery, causing me to diagnose Myers with autism. But my autism diagnosis does not necessarily apply to Halloween (2018) since the sister motive is gone.
Another way this film rewrites Halloween history is that at the end of the original film, Myers is shot six times then vanishes. In Halloween II we learn he just got up and walked away and is apparently un-killable. But with Halloween (2018) replacing Halloween II, he’s no longer supernaturally invisible; instead he vanished because he was taken into police custody after being shot.
So in Halloween (2018) Myers has been in a mental hospital since 1978! What kind of life has Myers had? Confined to a mental hospital from age six to age 21 (never speaking a word to anyone), escaping for one day of killing, and then spending the next FOURTY YEARS in confinement (presumably also never speaking to anyone). In total, Myers has been institutionalized for FIFTEY FIVE years! I wonder how many tax dollars have been spent on this man who’s done nothing but kill people.
In all that time under psychiatric care, you’d think someone would give him an IQ test like the WAIS. But he doesn’t speak so you can’t give him any of the verbal subtests, and a 61-year-old man who’s been hospitalized since age six has very little opportunity to learn general knowledge. Did he even watch TV?
They could give him the performance subtests but Myers moves so slowly that he would never assemble the blocks within the time limit, even if he figured out the solution. They could give him one of the power subtests like Matrix reasoning, where all he needs to do is point at the correct answer, but unschooled people are perhaps not motivated to engage with such abstract tests.
Even though the average IQ of people with no formal schooling at all is very low, in the past I estimated Carpenter’s Myers to have a respectable IQ of 92 since his sister was the brilliant Laurie Strode. But since Laurie is not his sister in Halloween (2018) I need a new estimate for this version.
Pumpkin Person 
You should measure his head.
pumpkin is able to simulate a lot of information in his head.
geniuses a lot more
but if bill gates is 16 yo – that could be me – only less iq
development stops at some point – people are stuck at one stage or another
and it is in part personality type where we perceive people – self-comparison
Philosopher as INTJ seen by PP as “The Joker”.
Animekitty as INFP seen by Phil as “naive” (phil being into conspiracies because INTJ)
phil is as INTJ always looking for the “hidden” motive behind everything
Animekitty experiences the emotion of and has the intuitive sense of people
because of having “INTJ” personality phil think people that look for hidden motive are incompetent at understanding people because as his personality the way he sees things the motive = reason behind action = deliberate intent. This works differently for “INFP” – INFP sense of emotion is at the core of being which makes it unexplainable because the way it “knows” is not by a “reason” but by feeling. Introverted Feeling knows the valence or tone of people “The way people resonate” – Introverted Intuition looks into the future: “what is going to happen” – “what will this person do next || why?”. INFP accumulates all feelings they experienced and forms a total wholist internalized sense of people. They do not predict what they will do next, they see the resonance of persons from the inside as to how they and the other feels. Phil as INTJ thinks autism is not being able to predict what others will do and why they do it. Autism is actually not being able to feel what others are feeling to know how to interact with them. Phils second function is Extraverted Thinking. Thinkers have a hard time understanding feeling. Maybe?
Personality Typology is a way of explaining things, takes time to understand.
Yesterday I was having burning, twisting and grinding sensation in my head.
(psychosomatic pain)?
“what the hell” – Phil
() – mistake bracket
phil think people that (do not) look for hidden motive are incompetent
What is the correlation between spatial and mathematical IQ and between mathematical and verbal IQ ? I find fascinating how different parts of intelligent are related to each other. From what I can observe math types are more inclined toward activities that’s require spatial intelligence like video games, engineering, nerd stuff overall than verbal intelligence. People working in IT are also not very good with words.
Verbal correlates about 0.67 with both math & spatial IQ iirc. Not sure about the correlation between spatial & math.
The intersting thing about math is both Jews & East Asians seem good at it, even though Jews lack pure spatial ability & East Asians lack verbal ability.
What is this “quant” intelligence that Philosopher is always refering to ? Math IQ ?
What is the IQ profile of people working in math and IT ?
Why are math and spatial IQ lumped together as performance IQ in IQ tests ?
I find all this very fascinating, I want to understand what different types of intelligence really are, if some types are a mix of other types, etc.
quant is math. performance IQ is just a term for tests that require you to do something (i.e. PERFORM an action such as assemble blocks, arrange pictures, solve a jig-saw puzzle) as opposed to verbal IQ tests which require you to say something (define a word, repeat numbers etc). Performance IQ tests were designed to be fair to people with very little schooling so they typically avoided math content.
Then why arithmetic is classified as performance in the WAIS ?
Don’t you know that arithmetic is classified as performance in the WAIS ?
it was classified as verbal:
The nature of intelligence, differences in intelligence and behavior and IQ correlates are the most fascinating subject you write about on your blog. I’m not really fond of IQ estimations of US celebrities.
The only subtest that directly mesure math abilities is arithmetic and it’s classified in the working memory index of the WAIS.
Originally the wechsler was divided into two subscales ( verbal & performance) & arithmetic was considered verbal.
But then they replaced verbal with “verbal compehension & working memory” & arithmetic is considered working memory.
Similarly, the performance subscale has been replaced with new more precise subscales.
Is there cases of people with both high spatial and verbal abilities who suck at math ?
Maybe people with very good skills on painting or drawing but not on math. Math is intermediary between verbal and non-verbal, in my opinion.
I’m sure there are many
So what is math IQ ? A mix between verbal and spatial ? A whole different category ? A mix of verbal and working memory with some spatial ?
you would have to include some real math tests (not arithmetic) in the WAIS battery and then do a factor analysis and let the computer decide whether it was a separate category or a hybrid of other categories. I treat it as a separate category from the ones you mentioned, but it might fit into the “fluid” index on the WISC-V, which consists of matrix reasoning and figure weights.
What would be a real math test ?
something involving algebra or geometry.
Wouldn’t geometry necessitate spatial reasoning abilities ?
Geometry would probably correlate with spatial while algebra would probably correlate more with verbal, but what all math probably has in common is logical ability, measured by tests like matrix reasoning & figure weights. These form their own index on the WISC-V.
I’m guessing though. I’ve never seen a study correlating math with wechsler subtests
Geometry IS spatial skills, isn’t**
Is there cases of people with high math IQ and low spatial and verbal ?
I’m sure there are, but I’ve never heard of any.
there are two aspects of MIQ which are generally unrelated.
1. the ability to visualize.
2. the ability to hold harry reems of info in your head at one time.
jews excel at the latter, do average or poorly at the former.
a third aspect is more purely verbal.
3. the ability to abstract and to think in abstractions.
That’s a fascinating subject.
Is math more g-loaded than verbal ?
1 is spatial, 2 is working memory and 3 verbal ? If verbal basically is abstract thinking then it would explain why it’s so g-loaded.
From this définition math IQ is not one abilities but a mix of 3
the unique variation in color of europeans has been explained in three ways (contra flushton and densen):
1. adaptation to cold.
2. the peacock’s tail — sexual selection.
3. inherited from neanderthals.
1.Then why are the eskimos so homogenous? You could say outbreedin with china people but the eskimos tend to have very isolated social groups.
2.Sexuall selection would mean fixation. I havent heard of any disadvantages of blue eyes so if that were true then i would postilate atleast non-africans to have light coloured eyes. But you could always argue that civilization came to early for it to reach global fixation, historical sciences are annoying like that.
3. Dont the chinamen and arabs have neandethal blood as well? i still belive its this as whites look like neanderthals (not to sound insulting) and that whites probably faced less outbreeding than the non-euro neanderthal hybrids. This might be awnsered at looking at what neandertal base pairs people actually have, as people have completely different neandertal base pairs individually and maybe group wise.
actually non-dark brown eyes have been suggested to be an adaptation to high latitude and dim light not cold.
blue eyed people do in fact have very low rates of night blindness.
That’s basically what Lynn said about european climates being less sunny than East Asia.
fascinating is the exact same adaptation is found in cats (nocturnal) and northern dog breeds.
lion’s have very very light brown eyes. so do most wolves.
this proves europeans superior to china people by flushton’s own standards.
sad!
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8956430bd21e20d5d0e36915608845279a96034e/c=0-72-5009-2902/local/-/media/2017/10/11/Wilmington/Wilmington/636433542858010736-101117-morgan-hurd-wb99771.jpg-.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop
East asian or black*
flushton’s theory is easily refuted if…
mammals in general, not just humans, who inhabit colder or higher latitude environments have lighter eyes.
if this is true, it means that china people have not been in manchuria, mongolia, hokaido, korea, etc. as long as europeans have been in europe…
unless europeans have much more neanderthal admixture and this admixture accounts for their apparent superior adaptation to cold.
As far as I am aware, East Asians have more neanderthal DNA due to back migrations.
the earth is still in an ice age, contra silly people but…
the nazi theory is that before the neolithic revolution when the earth was in an ice age in the common sense, europe was a harsh, harsh, horrible place and its natives adapted.
as the earth warmed and the gulf stream came back western europe became the most benign environment. that is, low endemic disease burden + rarely too hot or cold.
it let loose a population forged in hell.
and so it conquered the world.
Is there evidence of europeans actually living on the icy areas of europe? i thought an subset of them migrated to central and western europe during the summer to fish. Even then id assume outbreeding would kill most of the change.
compare the yuge variation on color among europeans with the mongolians and siberians.
mongolia is and was a tiny country yet it terrorized all of asia for centuries and the mongolian empire is the largest empire in terms of area excepting the colonial empires.
and yet…
hakuho and asashoryu are just hypertrophied versions of the china people type. that is, mongolians haven’t been in the cold long enough to adapt in any way other than sheer size.
Always right … and always will be…
Obsessed by muscles…
Only Oprah is more…
Arnold is clearly not human.
“”that is, mongolians haven’t been in the cold long enough to adapt in any way other than sheer size.””
They also have rounder skulls, more fat in the skin.
Why do Northeast Asians have more fat and larger heads than Europeans if they are less adapted to cold ?
They are not. They are more adopted to cold. Those are examples of long term cold-adoptation to cold Siberian winds.
peepee and flushton are right when they say siberia, manchuria, mongolia, and central asia are such horrible environments that the population stayed small and thus could not evolve as quickly.
no one hates any one like they hate their own family.
I love so much white and any other race i want everyone evolve, i mean, TRULY evolve and not ”i defend my ego as if i defend ‘white race’ [european and sorrounds subraces”.
If it’s for the better of white race and any other, to its survive and evolution, specially the moral ones, so i accept all mistakes it have commited.
I’m actually very superstitious. I have a personal belief that when movies are put together, they take a part of someone’s soul as collateral and give them good or bad outcomes in life based on how they fare in the movie or television show. Any type of media, really.
Btw. All media is technically social media because it requires people to socialize in order to create a medium.