Here’s some data from the WAIS-IV IQ tests about U.S. ethnic differences in IQ
Contrary to popular stereotypes, Asian Americans are not lopsided intellects who only outscore whites in mathematical or spatial ability, but actually outscore them in every index, including verbal. Of course Asian Americans are not a representative sample of all Asians.
And contrary to the stereotype that whites are the most cognitively variable ethnic group, their full-scale IQs in this data-set actually show the smallest standard deviation of any U.S. ethnic group, though this could be be because Asian Americans are not a single race.
The scores above use U.S. norms, meaning 100 and 15 are scaled to be the mean and standard deviation for all Americans. If we instead use white norms, (i.e. set the white mean and SD at 100 and 15 respectively), we find that African Americans have a full-scale IQ of 83 (SD = 15.4), Hispanics score 87 (SD = 15.5), and Asian Americans average 103 (SD = 16.6).
give the source and the age [redacted by pp, july 29, 2018]
Contrary to popular stereotypes then the data’s wrong or it includes too many south asians. at the high end of VIQ there are basically zero ne asians.
this is obvious even to people who have no experience with them just by looking at their literature.
16 to age 90; standardization sample for the WAIS-IV
and that sample has much fewer than 2,000 people for each race. where’re the Ns?
this post is retarded.
Puppy literally posted not so long ago that he thought it was possible native americans were descended from Sasquatches and that the reason black men preferred non black women was the ‘legacy of colonialism’. [redacted by pp, july 29, 2018]
The Sasquatch theory was facetious, as anyone with a social IQ above 100 would know. As for the legacy of colonialism; it exists, though I never implied it was the primary explanation.
No you werent being facetious at all. You are lying about that.
Pill i don’t even believe in Sasquatch let alone believe they mated with native americans. It was just a cool “what if” scenario for a blog post, not an idea i would have bet money on. You’re not as good at reading people as you think. You’re tone deaf.
Still gurgling.
a fair conclusion from the data is that like jews asians are overrepresented at elite universities in the US (and the equivalent in canada) for reasons other than their ability. as everyone knows asians are obedient, pushy strivers. thus my claims are confirmed again. but peepee will keep lying about the american elite being the smartest. they’re dumber than that of any developed country except canada. this follows by peepee’s own logic simply from affirmative action and magic negroes like obama. but peepee will keep lying because satan vagina.
Its a pity they don’t distinguish at the ethnic level. It would be interesting to have the major white USA ethnic groups : wasp, German, scandinavian, Italian and Ashkenazim. And among asian : Filipinos, East Asian (distinguishing Chinese, Han diaspora, Japanese and Korean), Indian Brahmin and upper casts (I would be interested in Bahnya) Latinos : white Iberian, mestizo (white Indian) , mulâtre (white black) and Zambos (back Indian). And some say African migrants have very high average IQ, would be interesting to see how children regress to the mean (also I d like to know more about the Nigerian Igbo IQ)
Puppy what is north korean IQ?
I don’t think better performance on these tests has to do with education. Yes, those who are dumb enough to the go to the Ivies are going to be self-selected for being obedient strivers as much as for scoring well on tests, but that’s not most Asians. In fact, I don’t find many East Asians to be all that obedient or even that agreeable. Go to Chinatown anywhere, and it’s mayhem–everyone seems to be doing what they want when they want, selling contraband and what not. I have heard their restaurants are constant headaches for the department of health. If they were obedient, they’d at least follow basic laws. China’s own history bears this out: Sure, it has a long and glorious history, but it was also a very violent one, filled with uprisings and civil war. China was split up into scores of kingdoms time and time again. The great Ming dynasty was started by an uneducated peasant who kicked out the Mongols. They sure don’t seem all that obedient to me, but more like actual rebels.
The key is that poor, uneducated, even illiterate East Asians tend to do better than other groups, including the majority, whether in Southeast Asian, Latin America…or the USA, where even in the 19th century they were known for their resourcefulness and enterprise. When Americans first started drilling for oil, they hired Chinese, as they had been deep drilling for centuries (for salt and natural gas). Chinese businesses were so successful that they often attracted the ire of locals, as recounted by none other than Mark Twain. Sure, a lot of this could be chalked up to hard work, but not all of it: all immigrants worked hard, and that’s probably true nowadays as well.
In other words, the Chinese (and perhaps other East Asians) have a long history of adapting quite well, sometimes even thriving, as uneducated minorities in often hostile environments. Sure, they don’t always do that much better, but it’s always in the same direction–a modest elevation, just like the tests that PP cited. Speaking of tests, they also do a bit better on tests of reaction time–so-called elementary cognitive tasks, which arguably have nothing to do with personality or education, but are thought to reflect the physical underpinnings of cognition. Point is, when you put these disparate things together–cultural adaptation, economic status, scores on physical tests–they seem to corroborate each other, reflecting a very small but replicable advantage.
and where do those indexes come from?
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On the recent editions of the WAIS, verbal IQ has been replaced by verbal comprehension index and working memory index and performance IQ has been replaced by perceptual organization index and processing speed index.
Pumpkin, what if you have a High WM, High PSI, but a slightly above average (116), VCI, and an average PRI, but still have an IQ in the 120s? Would you still be able to tackle difficult shit?
how recent is this data and can i get a citation?
just over a decade old. It’s from the WAIS-IV standardization sample.