I couldn’t sleep so I listened to a great lecture on youtube by British historian Ian Morris. He wrote a book a called Why the West Rules–For Now which sounds really good, even though, like Jared Diamond, he explains World history from a non-HBD perspective. But I think it’s good for HBDers to learn about non-HBD theories because HBD has anomalies that can only be resolved from more holistic views.
Example: HBDers argue whites, especially Nordics, are smarter than dark Caucasoids, but how then can we explain the fact that civilization started in the Middle East, not Europe?
Well, Morris argues that geography explains everything, but the meaning of geography is constantly changing, so at the dawn of civilization, the Middle East was in one of the “lucky latitudes”. Morris writes:
Humans may all be much the same, wherever we find them, but the places we find them in are not all the same. Geography is unfair. Human societies have all followed the same sequences of cultural development, but geography has dictated that they have not done so at the same speed. … If we look back nearly 12,000 years to the end of the last spasm of the Ice Age, what we see is that climate, topography, and ecology conspired in these Lucky Latitudes between China and the Mediterranean (and a similar band stretching from Peru to Mexico in the New World) to allow the evolution of unusually large numbers of plants and animals that could be domesticated, vastly increasing humans’ food supply. Because people (wherever we find them) are all much the same, it was in these Lucky Latitudes that humans first domesticated plants and animals. Fuelled by these resources, it was also in the Lucky Latitudes that people went on over the next 10,000 years to create the world’s first cities, states and empires. People in Australia, Siberia, and sub-Saharan Africa stuck with hunting and gathering not because they were lazier, stupider, or better attuned to nature than people in the Lucky Latitudes. Geography had simply endowed their homelands with fewer resources, and domestication therefore took longer. (p. 35)
The Lucky Latitude hypothesis was criticized by historian Michael Hart who argued that sub-Saharan Africa was actually luckier than Mesoamerica, but I do think the Middle East was lucky in the sense that it’s in the middle of where peoples from different regions could trade.
A second anomaly is the dominance of Whites over the last 500 years or so, even though HBD claims East Asians are smarter. I’ve argued it’s because East Asians are too evolved for their own good, and such advanced social organization weeds the mentally unstable creative types out of the gene pool because their non-conformity is disruptive.
However Morris gives his geographic explanation. Admitting that East Asians were the first to have the guns and navigational ability to conquer any country on Earth, it seemed unimaginable that whites could ever catch up technologically. But Morris argues that the East Asian technologies worked to White advantage, because Whites were geographically much better equipped to exploit them, given their ocean proximity to the Americas.
So what started out as Europe’s geographic disadvantage (being isolated from the terrestrial trade routes that the Middle East enjoyed), suddenly became a geographic advantage, thanks to Chinese sea navigation technology. The Atlantic ocean went from being a barrier to a trade superhighway, allowing whites to sell goods to Africa and buy slaves, sell slaves to the Americas, and buy more goods to take back to Europe and sell to Africa, and this feedback loop continued for centuries, creating what he calls the first true market economies.
If Morris is right, no wonder libertarians worship markets, given all they have done for the West.
The need to navigate faster, led to modern science and calculus and Western domination for centuries, Morris claims.
Morris ends the lecture much like J.P. Rushton ended his infamous AAAS lecture back in 1989: By making two important predictions about the course of World history. 1) Like Rushton he predicts East Asians will once again rule the World, but unlike Rushton he gives (somewhat facetiously) a specific year: 2103. And 2), he shockingly predicts there will be over FOUR TIMES as much progress in just the next 100 years as has occurred from the ice age until now. Sounds like a future that would exceed our wildest sci-fi fantasies.
What a great time to be born!
You can watch the full lecture below, or if you don’t have time, the last 20 minutes is the most relevant part:
Machines I once said will have IQ’s of 170 and above.
The “planet” Pluto will be in Aquarius in 2024.
In a negative aspect, Pluto rules death, murders and the cleansing of a group of people (usually deemed undesirable), using new technologies with sweeping efficiency as a form of rebellion under the sign of Aquarius, which will last till 2048. During the French Revolution, the guillotine was invented under this planetary transit.
So PP predicts a dystopian race/tribal conflict on a global scale in the near future, where only the most intelligent of Caucasoids, Mongoloids and the darker groups will engage in an interracial conflict stemming from a competition for resources. Caucasoids have been dominating the world for the last 500 years, leading to resentment of the other races, and the Mongoloids are the most capable of inflicting harm towards them as a backlash.
Will East Asians invent these new technologies leading to a sweeping annihilation of the other groups, because some HBDers predict that Mongoloids will dominate the world once again?
I predict the world will become united under Communism. China is still very much Communist, Putin is a KGB agent, and the west is well on its way to becoming Communist. Soon all races will be eliminated and the average human will resemble myself.
Well, to me, the best way to assume who really rules the world is about space capabilities, so if Russia is not the West, then among Space powers, the United States and European Union indeed are, but so China and Japan. However is true that United States alone have accomplished more in space than the other powers. Japan needs the capacity of manned space missions, China can do that since 2003 and both need to go to the Moon before United States do it again.
Western meritocracy is sometimes said to be one of the cause of the success of the West.
It’s actually quite similar to JayMan’s explanation and it would explain why Slavs weren’t as successful.
But now this individualism appear to be a weakness for western people. Some very tribal groups are playing on it, JayMan never talks about this.
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europeans have been ahead of china people for 2,500 years.
take the corpus of classical literature and compare it to the corpus of chinese literature of the same period. the former is much bigger and much more sophisticated.
take architecture and public works. greece and rome are far superior.
take the fine art of sculpture. china people sucked at it.
the guns and fireworks of the chinese were useless as military weapons. the chinese can only make toys. even when the europeans adopted the use of gunpowder is was close to useless for a long time.
recall that before rome conquered the mediterranean and nw euope, greece conquered the middle east and went all the way to the indus. the mongols did a lot of conquering but their empire fell apart in a few generations. mongolian is not a china people language like mandarin. its closer to turkish.
it used to be believed that mongoloids were mongoloids. that is, it used to be believed that china people were a lower level of of human evolution and that downs syndrome was atavistic. and when i say “believed” what i mean is “known”. all one need do is look at them. aesthetics don’t lie.
The Chinese actually did make weapons from gun powder.
The hand cannon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_cannon
and it was useless.
The Mongols were nomads from the Steppes, and it’s likely they looked different from the Chinese. A wild variant of the Mongoloid seems plausible. PP divides the Mongoloid race in 2 phases, the recent version which is domesticated and suited for farming and the earlier one which was nomadic and aggressive. Today’s Mongols probably do not look like their forefathers, because they mixed with the Chinese.
The Disney Cartoon “Mulan” portrayed the Huns who could be the early Mongoloids.
AFAIK the huns are direct ancestors to the mongols. They even have the same burial customs and millitary tactics.
the worlds first empire was the akkadian empire of mesopotamia or the achemenid empire of persia. Not europeans. Roman empire too copied some achemenid empire’s administrative methods to administer its empire. Greeks went upto the indus yes but mongols conquered some part of eastern europe. They would have conquered western europe too but their empire was already over stretched at that time. And the mongols were mongoloid even though their language might be partly turkic. Actually i doubt this too. I dont think it is turkic. And turkic too is not pure caucasoid or european it is a mix of mongoloid and caucasoid languages. And the mongol empire was the largest until the british empire in the 20 th century which crossed it in size only for a brief period. And then the british empire fell apart quickly after that too. I dont think mongols are inferior in anyway. Or chinese or anybody.
Architecture i agree greeks win, as the achemenid empire employed greek architects for some of its finest buildings.
chinese americans scored lower on IQ tests according to flynn.
the 106 of japan is 100% explainable by its insane education system where students sleep in cram schools like sardines. if they were superior they’d score a lot higher than 106.
chris langan disagrees with peepee.
I also wonder but then why East Asians have the shortest reaction times ?
you’re confusing reaction times with penises.
the rise of civilization in mesopotamia is 100% due to climate change and geography.
during the ice age the middle east supported vast herds of large animals. then it dried out and the only means of subsistence was agriculture using irrigation from the tigris and euphrates and nile.
jericho is the oldest or near the oldest known city. it’s extremely dry. annual rainfall is about 8 in. but it has springs and it’s near the jordan river. this is as it has been for 11,000 years.
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one thing which seems small but which is yuge is that the chinese language lends itself to logograms, and thus the chinese could invent move-able type but not benefit from it. korean and japanese are unrelated to chinese, so they have no excuse. the japanese have adopted chinese characters. they call them “kanji”. they have a syllabary but not an alphabet. why not just use the syllabary? why the kanji? japanese has the world’s most complicated (stupid) writing system according to Guinness. hangul was invented in the 15th c, whereas the alphabet was invented in what is today lebanon 2,500 years earlier.
the alphabet was a yuge invention, but much much less likely to be made by chinese speakers as chinese is monosyllabic, uninflected/analytic, and tonal.
korean and japanese are unrelated to chinese, so they have no excuse.
The thing I don’t understand with Chris Langan is why he didn’t try to build credibility instead of jumping into CTMU. I understand that doing a JD or a PhD when you’re old is boring and cumbersome. i) But for example, he could – by registring to a distant course college – prepare for the Putnam competition. There have been only 4 perfect scores. Getting one who add a lot of credibility to his work while at the same time give him immediate access to a phd at Harvard. ii) Or, he could try to write a very focus article on economy matters. If it is good enough, it will be very quickly be ranked.
My personal experience is that when I decided to do something related to a “mental activity” here in France, the ratio among the advange I extracted and the prestige that came with it on the amount of work was really huge. Trump’s huge. The same for publishng technical papers in important peer-reviewed journals. Doing some things with ones abilities is really easy and satisfactory. I knew someone who was very good at coding and liked it. But he was in a very low-skill programming job with a firm called Sopra. I animated him to prepare some competition for quick programming. It worked quite well for him. With that, he succeeded to land a job in a Internet service provider (Freesbee, going from 30K to 60K euros a year) and then he was recruited by Murex (a firm with a financial product, at 90K), and then enter Société Générale trading desk (180K a year). All that in 30 months. 6 times more money. Not more work. And an interesting job. Now is working in Frankfurt. The guy had an IQ around 145 and was an introvert.
So the excuses people give – Grady Towers like – are not convincing at all. It’s like people who say the see into the future and can’t figure out the lottery ticket. Their claim become highly doubtful.
I agree. If you are smart there is no reason why you shouldn’t be making money or doing well. However some people have other issues. For example, did it occur to you that his IQ is related to him being an introvert?
IQ = personality
Philo, I must admit I didn’t consider the reasons for his IQ to be quite high and specially not if some « negative » or « asocial » traits may have being a positive contributing factor. For me, it’s as incongruous as asking myself why a person fall in certain point in the ugly to beautiful spectrum. Besides, I am too weird to be bothered or even intrigued by someone who is only an « introvert » . I am sure you would have find him boring . I did but we played chamber music together in the same group (he played the cello).
IQ has many subcomponents.
An IQ profile.
People notice I pause a lot.
This is a good story.
Some conservatives say stupid minorities are the biggest drain on society.
Maybe true, but I also think super-genius (+145 IQ) asocial nerds who don’t put their brain power to use are also drains. I know, it sucks putting up with work-related politics and personalities. So stressful and stupid…
OTH, at least almost no one in the +145 range is on welfare.
There’s plenty of opportunities in this world if you have a high IQ, even if you have no social skills. And plenty of opportunities to be identified.
also according to wikipedia:
1. the japanese developed their syllabary 600 years before hanjul.
2. the phoenician alphabet was derived from egyptian hieroglyphics, a rebus system.
iirc the indian alphabets are also ultimately derived from the phoenician alphabet. so here the greatest invention derives ultimately from egypt, a climate change made civilization. look at a population density map of egypt and you’ll see. it’s all a matter of geography.

egypt has a population of almost 96m. almost all of them live within 50 miles of the nile.
the mayan writing system is not an alphabet. it’s like japanese. logograms + syllabary.
the small headed japanese developed their syllabary 600 years before hangul.

It’s quite interesting to note that some Japanese have a Southern European phenotype. Some also look like Nordics. Some look like negritos from South East Asia. They have wide range of physiognomy.
“aesthetics don’t lie” doesn’t mean that good people are good looking people or that good looking people are good people.
it means a person’s physical appearance (even with some disfiguring disease or accident) communicates an enormous amount about who he is. it tells those who can see what he is like “as a person”. the voice is part of the physical appearance.
keats was very short and died at 25 from tb. he said…
Beauty is truth, truth beauty, —that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
When my hair grows there is a two week period when I look extremely handsome. After that, I need a haircut because I do not look good with long hair. Better off with short hair.
Girls say I look like fat Steve Urkel.
Therefore I am fat Steve Urkel.
Girls say I look like fat Steve Urkel.
You’re so secure and comfortable in you’re own skin!
O WOW THANKS!
Diamond and this guy are right in the same way you guys are right about the central limit theorem. In the longest run, geography predicts what will happen, but in the here and now, people evolve in these geographies for specific psychologies, traits and athletic abilities.
Its more complicated than geography. But geography is a starting point.
Pumpkin if you can’t sleep this is because you feel guilty about what you did to jimmy.
I like Jimmy a lot, but he’s too hard to domesticate. If you want to talk with him you can always drop by at RR’s great blog.
no one cares peepee.
actions speak LOUDER than words.
this map shows that polynesians have bigger heads than japs, the same as macanese and hongkongers.
how does flushton explain that peepee?
polynesians are the world’s most robust people. their heads aren’t big relative to their bodies.
Rushton was unsure of where Polynesians fell in the three race model, so he did one analysis where they were considered Mongoloids and another where they were considered Caucasoids and found in both cases, Mongoloids > Caucasoids. Rushton was all about the big picture. He didn’t care about anomalies as long as they averaged out at the macro-race level.
peepee is way too sensitive to any anti-islam sentiment not to be a muslim herself.
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Fenoopy, if you believe Jews are pitting whites and Muslims against each other, you should support the alt-right in opposing the Muslim immigration to the West.
I do oppose Muslim immigration to the West, it’s very bad for me given I’m a skilled/high-class immigrant. These waves of peasants and criminals are very bad for public opinion. If they don’t want to adapt to the western way of life, they should stay at home, it’s really that simple.
I’m also very aware that it isn’t their fault, they don’t know better. The ruling class of the western world certainly do know better.
These waves of peasants and criminals are very bad for public opinion.
They sure are, and I suspect that’s the point of all that Muslim immigration. Steve Sailer calls it the “Invade the World! Invite the World!” strategy. The neocons trick whoever’s President of the U.S. to invade a middle eastern country (Iraq, Lybia, now they’re working on Iran); the country becomes destabilized creating a wave of angry Muslims who are then directed to white countries as quickly possible. When the whites see their beautiful countries being invaded by waves of angry violent sexually frustrated Muslims, it’s much easier to sell more wars against MENA countries, which in turn creates more waves of refugees etc. The neocons are sneaky and brilliant. I hope Trump’s smart enough to know what they’re up to, but at the very least he knows Muslim immigration isn’t good and I suspect that’s why the neocons hate him so much, despite his pro-Israel views.
And I think a similar game is being played with blacks and whites. Part of the reason the media is so quick to talk about racism is they want whites and blacks to be at each other’s throat.
It’s funny that I see women with hijabs sipping on wine and cocktails in the French Speaking part of Canada, but this I do not find in Anglophone areas. You’ll find that in Roman-based countries immigrants are encourage to “when in Rome to do what the Romans do”, while the English nations just want to put people in categories and create a dissonant multicult society. Maybe it’s the Anglophone elites who really want this. It’s profitable to divide and conquer.
“Steve Sailer calls it the “Invade the World! Invite the World!” strategy.”z
Yes, the migrants waves are definitely not in the interests of Muslims. It’s a lot easier to find the Lyrion’s to send to fight in Iran when his country is being invaded by low IQ criminals and welfare parasites.
what is the jews’ motivation for making islam the enemy other than diverting attention from the bad behavior of israel?
Arabs hate Israel so I guess the motive is to keep them as powerless as possible.
the iraq wars, the war in afghanistan had nothing to do with bush disliking muslim immigrants to europe or the US fucktard.
peepee is schizo.
But to sell the war to the public and to Bush and Cheney, the neocons needed 9/11 and other cases of Muslims behaving badly, and the more angry Muslims you send to the West, the more of that you get.
“the iraq wars, the war in afghanistan had nothing to do with bush disliking muslim immigrants to europe or the US fucktard.”
9/11 is the first casus belli against the Muslim world.
The reason neocons have so much power in America is because american people are dumb and naive.
The Italians might be poorer (but thats probably not true for the average italian vs american), but I doubt neocons would make much progress in getting the italian political status quo to replace their people. Although Renzi was a good effort.
the hijackers were NOT immigrants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks#Hijackers
Whether they were technically immigrants or not is not the point. They were foreigners in America and the more angry Muslims you bring in to Western countries, whether through immigration, student VISAs, etc, the more of that you’re gona get and the easier it gets to sell neocon wars.
“It’s a lot easier to find the Lyrion’s to send to fight in Iran when his country is being invaded by low IQ criminals and welfare parasites.”
I’m opposed to any western intervention in the middle east and 100% for parasites like you being deported back to algeria.
“I’m opposed to any western intervention in the middle east and 100% for parasites like you being deported back to algeria.”
Oh baby, don’t be so rough with me!
^^WOW.
Btw people that are pro war are often antiracists, at least in france, they don’t realize how different are middle east people from westerners. They think what they need and want is democracy and rights for homosexuals.
They think by supporting war they will liberate oppressed people from “tyrans”. This is very far from people like me taking in account psychological differences among ethnic groups.
But yeah, you can continue to call me “rabbi lyrion” if it please you.
You misunderstand, I don’t mean to call you a Jew. I mean to say you hate people people from the Middle East or North Africa, or even mixed-race people such as myself.
I don’t hate someone based on his race and I generally don’t hate people I just notice psychopathic traits to be more developed in these populations and I talk about it because I know these well.
Herr Pumpkin will not tolerate any dissent. Hail Der Fuhrer.
Dick Durbin saying blacks are offended by the term ‘chain migration’ because of slavery was hilarious.
Gman, are you offended by this term?
Dick Durbin and pumpkin must be long lost relations.
If Dick said ‘legacy of colonialism’, I wouldnt stop laughing.
Yes, I’m offended, and Im tearing my room apart. Im LOSING IT.
Meanwhile in Pelosi land: https://youtu.be/Y3F1t3JO1sI
Pelosi is a weirdo.
I think the people that commented on Michael Savages video are more in line with reality than the people under Maddows video. Honestly. And savage is considered a very low brow conservative talkshow.
Listening to Michael Savage as a freshman in high school is what first got me interested in politics.
Ron Paul got me interested in politics.
I was into Ron Paul for a while, too (not anymore).
I have to say the Democrat party is probably more odious than the republican party at this point. I never thought Id say that. At least the repubs have got some populist policies. The dems have absolutely nothing. I think Schumer introduced something called the ‘fair deal’ recently where they proposed a minimum wage hike in 2023.
I just don’t see why the dems exist anymore. They literally represent jews only now. Why would anyone sane vote for them?
they’ve been a fraud since 1966 according to lion’s most recent post. recall it was LBJ who escalated the war in vietnam.
It sure was Mug of Pee. And “progressive” icon bill moyers helped, which got him a spot on my Living 100 list.
What do you think the IQ of the average liberal is? Read the comments below this video.
I just don’t see any evidence that liberals are smarter than conservatives the more I live.
I don’t think I’ve ever met a white ultra-liberal with an IQ above 125. Especially not a male one. They usually lean libertarian or centrist-Democrat. Sometimes College Republican types.
I would argue SJWs are the dumbest group. Even more than any inbred bible thumper the new yorker magazine could do lampooning of.
Chomsky has much more than 125 and a huge creativity ability. In linguistics theory, he is a master . Like Gärdenfors or Davidson for semantics. And Stalnaker for syntax .
“I don’t think I’ve ever met a white ultra-liberal with an IQ above 125. Especially not a male one. They usually lean libertarian or centrist-Democrat. Sometimes College Republican types.”
How would you know?
Actually, I believe socially-conservative yet welfare-dependent whites in Appalachia, the South and the Far West are the stupidest (speculative). But SJWs aren’t that smart either.
yet they score higher than rich blacks. class based affirmative action would benefit poor whites the most. this is why dems oppose it.
Perhaps…
they’re dupes and dupes are dumb. “cultural marxism” is the opposite of marxism. identity replaces class consciousness. the sins of racism, homophobia, mysogyny, etc. replace the sin of classism and exploitation. the enemy isn’t capitalists. the enemy is poor white people. it worked until the donald exposed it for all to see. unless they’re blind like peepee.
so the news is a bunch of gross jews making unwanted advances or raping their employees. the news isn’t that employers have so much power they can get away with it.
the most left wing person on msm is tucker carlson.
Maddow knows shes lying. I can see it in her eyes.
Its sad how turn of the century liberalism became so corrupt and morally repugnant. Most liberals I knew/know are high empathy people, not sleazy clowns.
I see neurosis in her eyes actually. In the same way I saw it in Deals eyes in her photo.
I have the same impression. She looks crazy to me . Very conflicted and unstable. There is a hiatus among O’Reilly styled presentation and her face ….
it’s the money. they’re corrupt.
maddow is the reason for misogyny.
This guy Adam Schiff strikes me as a psychopath.
“Schiff voted in favor of the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[7] In February 2015, discussing how or whether to tailor Bush-era plans from 2001 and 2002 to fight ISIS, Schiff was asked if he regretted voting to invade. He said, “Absolutely. Unfortunately, our intelligence was dead wrong on that, on Saddam at that time. [The vote] set in motion a cascading series of events which have [had] disastrous consequences.”[8][9]”
This guy is too intelligent not to know the Iraq info was fraudulent. Maybe he voted for the war for the same reason he wants bad relations with russia. i.e. hes jewish.
100% psychopath.
It’s because his smile doesn’t reach his dead-fish eyes. Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a psychopath.
he’s a psychopath because he’s lying. the whole russia gate thing is a fraud. maher has become insufferable.
You might be right. But I can read Machiavellianism in the eyes.
Kevin Spacey had it, the calculating intent to do wrong, or at least to search for opportunities to exploit and get away with.
Adam seems dopier, like he’s trying to convince everyone of everything and it doesn’t matter what for, like he’s possessed, maybe it’s simply a politically expedient behaviour.
Searching eyes, searching eyes, look for searching eyes.
It strikes me that his method of talking is very manicured, very few non-fluency features, no mumbling or stuttering and very articulate so as to give the appearance of intelligence, but also monotonous, with very little facial animation especially around the eyes.
Someone more socially aware would give emotional feedback in the form of facial expressions to rhetorical effect, so as to coax affirmative agreement from their discussion partner. A well placed smile puts people at ease. Although he shows a great deal of comfort in what he’s saying with his smile, it reminds me of uncorrected duper’s delight, like he’s openly pleased that he’s speaking unchallenged. He doesn’t have the gleam of condescension I see in most intelligent psychopaths, it could just be a reflection of a stunted social ability though.
I find him condescending. And thats even when hes talking to Bill Maher, who he knows is not a dummy.
OT but it sometimes strikes me as weird when I can see something is obviously fraudulent and other people can’t. For example, my dad watched this PBS documentary on Syria and said its sad how the US let the Syrian people down.
I have explained to him 40 times, why Syria is even a news conversation and no matter how many times I prove the media is lying he keeps thinking they tell the truth the next occasion.
Its like hes a goldfish or something.
But I don’t think hes alone. I think I wildly overestimate peoples memory. I don’t think memory is necessarily related to IQ, but its always struck me how bad peoples memories are for information.
Most scholarly exams are not IQ tests, they are memory tests.
And most people have bad memory.
If I mention the anthrax scare after 9-11, people say ‘whats that?’. I rarely meet people that can talk about history in any depth beyond very broad outlines.
I bet most people can’t tell whether ancient greece or eygpt came first.
I don’t watch television.
The problem with the US is something average Europeans always observe when meeting Americans – Americans are dumb. Its a stereotype we have here and its absolutely true. And this is the whites im talking about we meet.
I think a low IQ or ignorant populace is just as bad as a subservient or violent one.
Fenoopy made a good indirect point the other day when he said elites have to be scared of their people to do good for them.
Ironically Americans are required to take a bunch of general education credits once they get to college to “expand” their breadth of knowledge but that’s total bullshit. The average European college grad I’ve met knew 3 or 4 languages and could have an intelligent conversation on global politics/economics. The average American college grad cant do any of those things, even though they spent an extra year or two in college.
American colleges are scams.
That’s true, but it also has to do with the lower average intellectual ability of Americans who are let into college.
As said by IQ tests?
We have come to the conclusion that America is just a business, a big box store type with a mind numbing number of mindless workers.
When were Walmart employees ever intellectual, or Amazon types for that matter, and they sell books?
American intellectuals for this reason always tend to be foreignors or jewish or frauds.
There is no equivalent in America to someone like Hitchens. Canada has a ton more intellectuals like Peterson, Rushton, MacDonald….who all happen to be psych professors.
OT, why are psych professors in Canada the number 1 alt right intellectuals? Its bizarre.
My first choice for college was psychology but unfortunately didn’t get the criteria.
I like America. I can achieve high status as a foreigner whereas in some other European countries I would always be a 2nd class citizen. Not by law, but like an unspoken rule.
Pumpkin did psych in canada. Have you noticed anything unique about it up there? I think its well beyond chance that you have so many people with very non mainstream ideas. Must be exciting to be studying psych there. I bet Peterson, Rushton et al talk about HBD things in their lectures to undergrads.
Yes, I forgot our own pumpkin has many of these views and studied psych. I actually think psych can be studied scientifically as long as you aren’t brainwashed a looking for the result that says whites are race-ist.
That’s an assumption too far, Philly. Pumpkin has had a very non-standard life, coupled with an early fascination with intelligence testing after having been through one himself, it’s not hard to see why he developed a private interest in these phenomena.
It’s much more likely that his interests incited his studies, rather than his studies having incited his interests.
Honestly if I was thinking of an alt right intellectual hotbed it wouldnt be canada. Probably more like australia or Italy.
canada is the world’s most cucked country. it has a higher foreign born % of its population than the US. i wonder what it is when americans are subtracted. trudeau is cuck-in-chief.
Canada’s still 78% white/indigenous. And there are a lot of migrants from the U.S.; liberals who left cause of trump
wikipedia: The Great Seal was first used publicly in 1782.
annuit coeptis : signals enterprise
novus ordo seclorum : new order of the ages
The understanding of control through feedback systems has been known a long time. Signals regulate, reinforce or deteriorate systems. Internal feedback is the organizing principle of Intelligence.
in the 80s people thought japan was going to take over the world, and it didn’t.
this is probably the most accurate measure of living standards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income#Gallup_gross_median_household_income
japan is below south korea somehow. this despite japan’s being a fairly developed country in the 30s. japan’s GDP is lower than it was in 1995. why shouldn’t the same thing happen to chiner and korea? of course japan and south korea have few natural resources and are more densely populated than europe. only holland is more densely populated than japan. none are more than s korea.
more likely is chiner develops and plateaus and the US decline due to the falling quality of its people. western europe will decline too unless it stops immigration and reduces its immigrants’ tfr. australia, nz, and canada may have higher quality immigrants than europe or the US, but they’re small in population. eastern europe will continue to suck.
I expect the chinese to at least match taiwan. I cant see why they wouldnt match the japs and koreans eventually .
I predict israel will max out at italian living standards.
Notice the way the scandanavian countries are highest in all these liatinga despite much less natural resources and no colonial history compared to us france uk etc. If economists were doing their job they would study those countries to find the elixir of wealth and not trading posts like hong kong and singapore.
The marxists are right abd wrong. Colonialism was a transfer of capital but not to the people , rather a small elite as they said. But it doesnt mean ex colonial countries are permenantly in the lurch vis a vis their old masters. On some other measures for example ive seen ireland come out ahead of the uk for example. And as you say korea is now ahead of japan.
Genetic engineering of intelligence is clearly on the horizon. There are several thousand genes that control “g”, although some seem more important than others. All are theoretically capable of being altered. In the West we are making practically no advances in this area. In China private companies and the government are working to enhance exceptional “g” on a biological level. The social structure of China makes such research much more possible than in the West. They are not far from direct gene splicing. The West, perhaps due to its liberal democratic traditions, its behavioristic history in the social sciences, and its fears of crude eugenics, refuses to look at serious research to enhance general intelligence. We are likely going to be swamped with smarter competitors who understand us much too well.
Algeria is still a puppet-state of France. The original national liberation front leaders were all assassinated. The country is used like a gas/oil tank and the people are given just enough to stop them revolting.
If you werent being ideological and wanted to max out living standards in your country you would
1. Basicaly make all education free.
2. Free healthcare paid by taxation which pools risk at the lowest admin cost
3. Make the civil service completely merit based and have strong anti corruption laws
4. Promote trade unions and collective bargaining
5 Borrow abd spend on infrastructure
6 ban immigraton from low skilled
7 Have progressive taxation
8. Spend as little as possible on defence and rely on diplomacy and not listening to neocons
I actually think tariffs work as well in terms of trade policy. Theres an economist at cambridge from korea that makes an empirical case for tariffs very well. Most international trade is western companies shipping coolie made products back to their domestic market for resale i.e. its not real trade. It more labour cost arbitrage. In that spirit i would put tax or put tariffs on outsourcers if i was a major western nation.
Essentialy what tariffs would de facto do is redistribute wealth from shreholders to workers which would maximise economic wealth as these people apend more.
If you wanted to be crude you could do it with atraight up handouts from the rich, but there are a lot positive externalities to having industry physically located in a country.
VERY interesting, since your educated in the field. I ask, what are the externalities? and why would these externalities be worth more than the slave labour and lack of environmental regulation (increasing foreign productivity) we find in China or other third world countries?
One environmental argument i guess is that the bad environmental externalities (that come with foreign trade) to the world is too large.
One of the things people on the aspy spectrum tend to believe in more is that you can fix problems like ‘poverty’ and bad health etc etc with technical solutions like technology or other programmes. I suppose this is what bill gates thinks. Imo technology could improve another 30-40% as it has in developed countries over the past 30 years and people might actually be even poorer due to the political economy of whats going on. Technology isnt a solution. Neither is ‘education’, especially brainwashing masquerading as education.
At the end of the day what makes people richer is strikes, protests, revolutions and threats of violence.
The industrial revolutio only atarted making average brits richer after the syndicalists, marx, keir hardy and so on agitated for reform 100 years after. Aspergers people completely ignore the reality that all human problems are human made, not inanimate object made.
I truly believe you could have fully automated industry and ai and have a majority of the popilatio n in poverty. The problem is liber retards and neoliberals cant even conceive that. They think the produce would go to the average person through osmosis or something.
Of course you can. The moment the ruling class doesn’t fear the population is the moment a large portion of the population is written off as useless. In many gulf countries, a large portion of the natives are assigned fabricated bureaucracy jobs just to keep them in work. It’s the important the rulers keep their citizens happy. They could care less about the imported Asian workers however, who live like dirt. They aren’t dangerous, they will never revolt. The natives are.
That’s all just theory, there might be other reasons why Europe, MENA and India have high income equality and the rest of the world has far less. The most obvious pattern however is they’re all Caucasoids of some variety.
Scratch that. Thinking about this, it seems to be a cultural thing. There isn’t really a clear pattern to income equality, it’s an interesting topic though so I will read about it.
I’m not sure for example why Japan is so equal but China is not. Or why America is so unequal, given a huge portion of the population is armed with guns.
“The most obvious pattern however is they’re all Caucasoids of some variety.”
Sure, it make sense.
I know problems like bad health can be fixed. Aspie confirmed?
not all human problems are human made. don’t be ridiculous. but in the developed world today there is no excuse for poverty. that’s true. it isn’t a problem of too little production, it’s a problem of distribution, aka a political problem.
If you ask a liber retard ‘how does technology make people richer’ , they literally talk about it like osmosis is happening. Like microsoft office cd roms bleed out money to anyone that comes physically close.
If you ask a neoliberal l whats the solution to any economic problem, the answrr unerringly will always be – make the rich richer. Everything they say has this effect. E.g labour reform, privitisation, deregulation etc.
Most mainstream economics borrows from these two strands of thinking in academia. I remember even studyinng immigratin and my prof saying open borders increases wages. They are either too dumb to be professors or are actualy selected precisely because theyre dumb.
I think its the latter. I think if you are actually smart and not socially retarded you will not be allowed to become a professor in most major western countries. I think this applies to all discipli es outside hard science where the material is too abstract to make Master worry. And when the material does say things like some coolies have lower iqs than the domestic population master forces all the genetics and psych profs to pretend coolies are just as smart as natives. I bet the only way you could meet a socially non retarded non braiwashed proffesor is if you studied metallurgy or something.
too abstract to make Master worry.
or as with anglo-american philosophy the subject becomes meaningless to Master by design, not by the nature of the subject.
any subject which has no conceivable ideological importance will have no pc pressure by definition.
but such subjects will attract ASDs, because normies aren’t much interested in such things.
but there’s no question about it. in american terms the engineering and natsci faculty are more “liberal” than the business and econ faculty, but more “conservative” than any other faculty. that is, so far as they have any politics. ASDs are more likely to be apolitical.
But your hero Trump’s neoliberal economic policies have helped the economy.
have they? you have no evidence.
trump had to give the corrupt GOP its tax cuts so that they would give him immigration.
the US does need tax reform and a lower corporate rate, but trump’s bill was just redistribution up.
Why is Trump your hero given he’s just another Zionist strongman? His daughter is married to a Jew but white supremacists like David Duke still worship him. Goes to show you they aren’t very intelligent.
they are selected for stupidity.
peepee denies this happens.
peepee is wrong.
There are a lot of philosophy professors that dont even know they are lecturing in legal studies and not philosophy they are that dumb. Its kind of embarrassing sitting there and listening to a person talk about semantics for 40 minutes.
the french alternative to anglo-american/analytic-linguistic/oxford philosophy is just as bad but different.
the french made philosophy a dead subject, a subject un-threatening to Master, by making it gibberish.
Imo philosophy students tend to be smartest of the liberal arts/humanities side. This is precisely why master intends to tie these people up into useless punctuation debates in their formative years.
Its designed like that. Trust me.. They know what theyre doing to these kids.
but no “they” is necessary.
do you see what i mean?
the Reality is very subtle and very difficult to think or put into words, so all attempts will sound insane when interpreted literally.
interessting.
I would generally err on the side of intentio n and design. Whereas i can tell robert and most people here err on the side of inertia. That systems produce dumb results because of mistakes or bad design or even collective insanity.
In my opinion if the system is producing the opposite to what you think it should its probably proof that its designed to fail. At least to fail at what you think it should be doing.
The system wheher education, economy, monetary policy, defence policy etc is there for a reason. Its never inertia.
no. that’s not what robert thinks.
robert thinks that a conspiracy theory can accurately describe social reality in terms of its predictions, even though the conspiracy it describes is much more subtle than michael corleone killing all the dons during his son’s baptism.
that is, the language and concepts available for the description have a concrete sense which is false but an abstract sense which is true.
God speaks in the language of men.
there’s a middle way, an aufhebung, between your description and the description you claim i’ve made.
Philo, you’re incline to see intent everywhere. You should date an aspie girl to balance it. You would have interesting conversation. She ll have an endologue. You ll have an ectologue. Both forms would be dolichologue but mostly not cenologues 🙂
Ps : it is compliments
intent needn’t be limited to the individual psyche.
peoples can have intents.
That’s why I said everywhere . I didn’t deny there is intent. If you can see intent, that is the proof that intent may exist outside of your own mind. It is not a proof it exists everytime you see it. That’s why it’s good to know if you’re erring in the too much or too few side … It helps to see intent to see patterns, understand the events and direct your actions. It gives people a sens of meaningfulness or resourcefulness. But it is also a tool that slows your brain and provoke errors and confusion.
But I am not sure if people can slow it down if they are schizo for example. And even more, if they can see the point in doing that …
The paranoid can misinterpret intents.
The unassuming can miss intents.
The autist is blind to intents.
The socially intelligent predict the correct intents.
There is insight into motivations.
It is Intuition.
Instincts are fixed natural responses that do not develop.
Intuition sees the essence of things hidden from apparent sense.
Instincts can only be primal, it can only act but not know Gnosis.
That is why fear has fight flight or freeze.
Intuition knows what will happen next in a movie.
A natural reaction can be emotionally correct but it is not the same as knowing what will happen or why your car is broken. This distinction is vague, but just because mixing them happens. Instincts you are born with, Intuitions are understanding causality. Causal understanding develops over time and inborn traits can become a part of that. Saying to trust your instincts is mixing the inborn traits with your causative understanding of reality which is why Social intelligence is not coming from instinct but causal understanding. If instinct was everything we would have the social intelligence of a dog. Dogs social intelligence is bred into it but it does not know anything about predicting other dogs motives. Dogs act in the moment, emotionally from instinct. Humans do to but our ability to predict is not default to instinct because we can increase our ability to predict. Instincts we have can’t predict but they understand emotions that are survival mechanisms. Intuition does expand the bounds of our survival mechanism because if we can predict more, then those predictions can be sent to the emotion centers.
People would literally rather blame ‘collective psychosis’ or imagine these weird kafkaesque situations than admit their leaders are corrupt and venal.
an example of genuine high functioning autism or whatever. these people were smart enough to earn degrees in CS but the guy looks funny and the girl looks fine but she talks like a robot.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-growing-acceptance-of-autism-in-the-workplace/
But physically, Trudeau looks like an uber jock. I never heard him speak till today. I just imagined hed have a douchebag voice.
of course what might be termed “elite immigration” is a yuge advantage of the US and other english speaking developed countries.
think about it.
indians in the US likely score as high as “asians”, but indians in india don’t. the US gets the brain drain. why? because it’s easier to learn english and to integrate into american society. the chinese and japanese and koreans and germans aren’t competing with the US for indian geniuses. and not for pakis or nigerians either.
english is the simplest of the world’s major languages. this because it is a creole of anglo-saxon and norman french. it used to be claimed all languages were equally complex. it took an un-pc black american to change that. john mcwhorter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_complexity
so immigration is in general bad.
but elite immigration is good.
Why are my comments on trudeau moderated?