In his controversial book Race, Evolution and Behavior, J.P. Rushton cites neoconservative Bernard Lewis, arguably the most influential person of the early 21st century, when describing black-Arab historical relations:
Lewis (1990) examined Arabic relations to blacks with whom the Muslims had dealt as slave traders for over 1,000 years. Although the Koran stated there were no superior or inferior races, and therefore no bar to interracial marriage, in practice this pious doctrine was disregarded. Arabs did not want their daughters to marry even hybridized blacks. The Ethiopians were the most respected, the “Zanj” (Bantu and other Negroid tribes from East and West Africa south of the Sahara) the least respected, with Nubians occupying an intermediate position.
It makes sense that East/Horn Africans would be the most respected because they are the most Caucasoid looking, as well as very gracile. Because of race mixing, about 40% of Ethiopian ancestry comes not from black Africa, but from West Asia, but I have to wonder, what came first: the Caucasoid admixture or the Caucasoid appearance which caused Caucasoids to respect them enough to mix?
This group of Ethiopian boys, despite having black skin and Negroid hair, are extremely Caucasoid in their facial skeletal traits:
Is this because they have 40% Caucasoid ancestry from the Middle East, or is it possible these boys are pure black, and incipient Caucasoid traits are actually indigenous to East Africa? Could unmixed Ethiopians be the “missing link” as proto-Negroids evolved into proto-Caucasoids?
If these boys are mixed, why is their skin so dark? Normally hybrids are not 100% Negroid in skin colour and 100% Caucasoid in facial traits, they’re in between Caucasoids and Negroids on both traits.
An alternative theory is that they are mixed and that they are descended from hybrids, but the hybrids were then selected for skin as dark as other Africans’ to survive the sub-Saharan sun.
I think it’s absolutely fascinating that the World’s first black decabillionaire, Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Ali Al–Amoudi, was not technically black at all, but a Semitic looking man with an Ethiopian mother and Arab father.
In addition the first black to become the most powerful person on Earth, was the son of an East African father and white mother.
It seems even in modern times, blacks from East Africa achieve the most wealth, power and status, especially if they’re hybridized.
My best freind in college was a somalian. (Therefore im not race-ist, the famous cuckold line).
Youre right though. There are differences between east and west africans i never really thought about.
Nogerians stand out as the most ‘kuffar-ish’ of africa.
East africans tend to have more religious affiliation.
huh
http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-mota-mistake.html
“Is this because they have 40% Caucasoid ancestry from the Middle East, or is it possible these boys are pure black, and incipient Caucasoid traits are actually indigenous to East Africa? Could unmixed Ethiopians be the “missing link” as proto-Negroids evolved into proto-Caucasoids?”
We already had this discussion, not up top debate on which are significant;y mixed.
“If these boys are mixed, why is their skin so dark? Normally hybrids are not 100% Negroid in skin colour and 100% Caucasoid in facial traits, they’re in between Caucasoids and Negroids on both traits.”
Congrats, use substitute SSA plus ancient Levantine Plus thousands of years of potential natural selection in a hot climate versus recent European and Sub saharan Mulattoes.
Try using more intuition if you aren’t even going to put more effort into your research, as no population geneticist would STOP at a group’s nationality to be detailed on their genetics.
“An alternative theory is that they are mixed and that they are descended from hybrids, but the hybrids were then selected for skin as dark as other Africans’ to survive the sub-Saharan sun.”
That’s the more likely theory.
As for East Africa Ruling in Modern times, eh. Ethiopia and Somalia don’t come off as that superior to their western counterparts.
If I were to use African Outliers, then Somalian refugees and Nigerian Immigrants would suggest a different story.
Also, and actual list of the richest blacks of 2016 and 2017.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mfonobongnsehe/2016/03/01/the-black-billionaires-2016/5/#5ec6792c133b
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mfonobongnsehe/2017/03/20/the-black-billionaires-2017/#34a291094d6d
Nigerians again sho over representation, more meaningful than one person of high rank.
Also, Obama’s “East African Heritage” is of Nilotic origins rather than Horner like the point you are making.
I’ve already covered this in the other thread.
Yeah, I admit all my evidence was anecdotal, not based on any firm statistics.
HBD predicts East Africans (or at least Horn Africans) should do better than West Africans but there’s no strong (modern evidence)that’s the case. Maybe HBD is wrong (at least in this case) or maybe the horrific East African droughts explain their failure to dominate.
While children most likely starve more than in Nigeria, that’s doesn;t really explain why their immigrants in business and other professions aren’t as prominent as Nigeria or while despite having better precolonial infrastructure why have a lower development index then not only Nigeria but many other Black African nations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
In Terms of aid, they even receive more along with Somalia than Nigeria.
http://hornaffairs.com/2014/11/29/list-top-aid-recipients-in-africa-per-capita/
Plus you would expect “smarter” nations to be able to use aid more efficiently as well even if it could explain things.
We already had this discussion, not up top debate on which are significant;y mixed.
I realize Ethiopians as a whole are mixed (40% West Asian according to some estimates), but I don’t know if that means the boys in the photo are 40% West Asian. The 40% could just be a population average with a lot of variability around the mean.
Precisely, the link in my comment addresses such.
So do you agree the boys in the photo might have less than 5% West Asian ancestry since the 40% is just an average and doesn’t apply to every individual? I haven’t read your link.
First, why less than 5%?
Second, No, that’s not what I mean. In regards of estimating their admixture, like I addressed in my first comment, I need to know the source to learn their ethnic group and then learn their admixture.
I can tell you right off the back however that they likely aren’t pure Nilotic given both their narrow faces and features at such young ages as well as having a reddish/browm tone rather than a black/greyish tone like Nilotic.
They could pass face & skin wise as Afar for instance who are 46% West Asian based on my link.
No, horn Africans come with different color skin, if you check there family you will see a light skin
This guest is very good.
Globalists velieve all western coubtries exist as dumping grounds for the world.
Except israel
Funny that.
“Lewis (1990) examined Arabic relations to blacks with whom the Muslims had dealt as slave traders for over 1,000 years. Although the Koran stated there were no superior or inferior races, and therefore no bar to interracial marriage, in practice this pious doctrine was disregarded.”
Jordan Peterson: Why Feminists Love Islam and Hate the West
Eritrea a north-east of ethiopia and which is even closer to the arab border has more caucasoid features in their people’s faces.
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=eritrean+boys&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM8bKc1tnVAhWIQI8KHZLrCiQQsAQIJA&biw=1517&bih=735s evel closer to the arab border.
What about the Persians? Iranians produce a lot of engineers and scholars. Where do we their IS rank amongst the MENAS ?
”This group of Ethiopian boys, despite having black skin and Negroid hair, are extremely Caucasoid in their facial skeletal traits”
Extremely is a wrong expression at least for this photo.
I think they ”were more respectable” because … behavioral differences.
Do you still don’t understand that appearance is mostly secondary**
”Could unmixed Ethiopians be the “missing link” as proto-Negroids evolved into proto-Caucasoids?”
Probably not, Unmixed ethiopians** All ethiopians are product of this mixture isn’t* So we can argue if San people is the ”missing link” between proto-east asians and proto-subsaharian negrids…
”If these boys are mixed, why is their skin so dark?”
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because miscigenation increase the variation and in this case, specifically, founder effect*
Generally mixed OR less-decanted old populations varies less in appearance than recent mixed race people’s, namely in murrican incontinent. It’s the common destiny of recently mixed groups, that their mixed-features will becoming more stable throughout time.
”Normally hybrids are not 100% Negroid in skin colour and 100% Caucasoid in facial traits, they’re in between Caucasoids and Negroids on both traits.”
Normally in recent mixed-race people.
Ethiopians just like indians are mixed BUT this admixture was older than for example caribbean groups.
”An alternative theory is that they are mixed and that they are descended from hybrids, but the hybrids were then selected for skin as dark as other Africans’ to survive the sub-Saharan sun.”
Ethiopian mountains are too hot*
Do you arealdy know how variable is the skin reflectance of ethiopians* And of course separating more isolated than those who have mixed. Interestingly many mix between ethiopians and euros tend to look more-caucasian than common mix between subsaharians and euros. Similar pattern seems to be common among mix aboriginals and euros.
”It seems even in modern times, blacks from East Africa achieve the most wealth, power and status, especially if they’re hybridized.”
Oprah**
No,if you have a friend that is East African or horn African check there family because all of them ain’t light skin, they have brown and light skin, the hair you guys are saying is negriod is actually defined curls.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/4907019/1/
someone called me yesterday and axed me to paticipate in a survey for $10. was that you peepee?
is your firm market research or political polling?
No, I don’t have your number and have no desire to call you. If I were to call someone it would be another celebrity because that’s someone I could actually relate to.
you should ask noam chomsky for an interview.
You’d be better at interviewing him than me. Perhaps write a list of questions and I could revise them and then email them to him.
hahaha
Bilal who was one of the first companion the prophet, and the first muezzin of the history, was this type of caucasoid looking Black not the truly inferior [redacted by pp, aug 16, 2017] from west/central africa.
Blacks thinks they can get our north african sisters because we are all brother in Islam ! AND BILAL WAS BLACK ! North African whores who falled for the je***h propaganda of race mixing and multiculturalism and forgot where they came from always used this idiotic argument that BILAL WAS BLACK to justify that they suck miles of senegalese/malian/congolese dick every week end when they are out showing off smoking hookah or moving their big butts on satanic rap music in clubs.
But actually before we arrived and civilised them (subsaharan africans), they were making their house with their shit (no kidding!)
We have nothing to do with these people and people from the horn of Africa also are very different from west africans and highly despise them.
I don’t like black people but my best friend is Ethiopian. Very clever person.
East africans are seen as degenerate in europe. We dont really distinguish between west and east.