Black national merit finalist GondwanaMan suggested I blog about Alex Jones’s IQ.
I don’t know enough about him to give a truly educated guess, but he strikes me as a huge bullshiter.
Nonetheless I don’t think he’s lying about having a 140 IQ.
Hosting a talk show looks easy but it’s actually one of the most cognitively demanding jobs out there, given its competitive, verbal and improvisational nature.
The self-proclaimed SAT scores (a proxy for IQ) of several talk show hosts have been reported:
Howard Stern stated on his show that he scored less than a 1000 in the early 70s, equating to an IQ of 117 (116 white norms). Based on the fact that height, income, and Jewish ancestry are all positively correlated with IQ, I suspect the SAT underestimated his ability.
Meredith Vieira claims she scored in the 1300s in the early 70s, equating to an IQ of about 144 (143 white norms)
Megyn Kelly told Stern she scored in the 85th percentile. This would normally equate to an IQ of 115, but since only an elite third of teens took the SAT, it’s more like 125 (123 white norms)
So on a scale where all white Americans have a mean IQ of 100 with a standard deviation (SD) of 15, people who reach the most elite levels of broadcast media average IQ 127 and an SD of 14: An IQ distribution even more impressive than the Ivy League’s!
This may sound like a contradiction since Ivy League students average much higher SAT scores than talk shows hosts, but because the former are selected by SATs, they regress precipitously to the mean when given a random cognitive test.
Roughly one in six successful talk show hosts should have IQs of 140+ so Jones’s claim is not outlandish. Given that he attended a community college, I doubt his SAT scores equated to an IQ of 140 but it’s plausible he scored that high on an official IQ test, given that the typical high school when Jones was growing up had at least one student with scores that high in their file. Scores much above 140 almost never appear in school files because they’re rare and because many tests don’t measure much beyond the top 0.5%.
Corroborating Jones’s 140 IQ claim is his apparently impressive and rapid recall, as displayed on the Joe Rogan show:
Also note how much tighter the headphones fit on Jones’s cranium compared to Rogan and his sidekick, suggesting a large cranial capacity.
In addition Jones claims he can speed read and disbelieved in Santa at only age 2.5, and while this is hard to believe, he can at least bullshit his way through a math discussion.
Of course many people think Jones is a wacko, especially after he suggested that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was hoax, causing the grieving parents of the dead kids to demand his recent interview with Megyn Kelly never air, but Jones may have outsmarted the IQ 123 Kelly by anticipating a hit piece and secretly taping it to prevent selective editing.
Many people don’t understand how an IQ 140 could possibly believe some of the incredible conspiracy theories Jones pushes (i.e. the government raising human-pig hybrids), but talk show hosts often feign beliefs that broaden their audience.
Intelligence is just the mind’s problem solving computer and is only as good as the problems it’s used to solve. Jones may use his IQ to validate what he already believes instead of seeking the truth.
Jones may also have borderline schizophrenia. I have long argued that since schizophrenia is arguably in many ways the opposite of autism (social blindness), those with mild schizo traits are especially good at attracting a cult following, which explains the psychotic beliefs of the World’s great religions.
illuminaticatblog said:
Pumpkin,
Since processing speed is a measure of visual problems could the reason my Processing Speed is 86 be the low functioning of my ventral stream. The right dorsal stream is where figure weights happen and I scored 130 on that. I do not know why my working memory is 95. The Stroop test says my anterior cingulate cortex is 135.
The ventral stream is used to draw things.
Ventral is the “what”
Dorsal is the “where”
Dorsal is why I got 125 on block design.
I can only draw stick figures.
Since I got 769 in reading.
This could be explained by my verbal IQ being 132.
I am not sure how important working memory is to the SAT?
If the brain is a computer, the brain has many sections.
Each section does a different job.
illuminaticatblog said:
(702 in reading)
illuminaticatblog said:
I just read that dorsal and ventral coupling determines to processor speed. Processing speed is the ability to locate and recognize objects. I scored 86 on PS. That means my eye saccades are not as rapid as most people. It takes me longer than most people to locate and recognize objects. I do poorly when I try to play real-time strategy games. I avoid doing fast activities because I cannot keep track of everything.
Jimmy said:
he has lost so many fans because he went full on zio
i actually had a dream around 2009 where AJ was being blackmailed to say stuff and right after that we started seeing him go full zio .
you would be surprised by how many of my dreams come true
anyway the man is a traitor worse than any i have ever seen
he has 100% knowledge of who runs our countries and yet he still pushes the same zio propaganda
there is no way that Meghan kelly would have gone on his show in 2006 when he was at his peak.
AJ is now mainstream which tells you all you need to know
His little buddy Paul Joseph Watson is 1,000 times worse though
RaceRealist said:
I loved Jones a few years ago. I’d listen to his show every day. I know how to separated Zio talking points from reality so I’m fine there. He has a lot of good guests on and his reporters are top notch.
He got screwed in his divorce settlement if I recall correctly. Just like Hulk Hogan….. Brother.
RR is s italian. sad! said:
it doesn’t tell one anything hymie.
obviously hymie’s long time abuse of amphetamine has made him paranoid.
The Philosopher said:
Jones is a paranoid schiz personality type. I can tell because we share many similar personality traits. The easiest way to tell is narrowed brow and eyes and the volcanic rage.
The problem for him (and me) is he is also high IQ. I’ve watched some of his interviews, and the hosts can’t beat his logical parrys even when they think his positions are ‘demonstratably stupid/crazy’ at the outset – but can’t prove it once speaking to him. He is very gifted in the parlance.
Even Cenk Ugher said Jones was a high IQ guy and they hate each other.
I suspect Jones has a similar problem to my own. 50% maybe of what I know is a distortion or cartoonish, but the other 50% is scarily true. For example, Jones was right 15 years ago about 9-11, the fake Iraq War, the mind control mass media and the anthrax crap from the Danes. He is also correct about Russia…Although Jones, rarely implies the elephant in the room preferring to talk about ‘big government’ and nefarious black helicopter people and such abstractions.
The other stuff about FEMA concentration camps, purposely effeminised drinking water, chemtrails and false flag mass shootings is reaching a bit.
Being schiz he has an advantage because he can see connections very easily and is more than willing to entertain even the darkest rumours. The blackness under the eyes (even with makeup for the show presumably), is a classic trait.
The classic example.
The Philosopher said:
He is ‘very gifted’ in the parlance#.
I think the chances of Jones tlaking about the ‘legacy of colonialism’ or #Oscarssowhite is about zero.
RR is s italian. sad! said:
that one is permitted the most absurd conspiracy theories but not permitted to speak of denmark is proof of the power of denmark.
Jimmy said:
everything you said about AJ was true
He went form saying that the iraq war was an inside job to saying that it was Saudi Arabia .
He went from saying that we live in a police state to worshiping the police
He went from saying the truth about the Israeli attack on the USS liberty to saying that israel doesn’t do anything
His show is now 100% zio talking points
i’m so glad that he is now getting screwed by his yid wife
poetic justice
The Philosopher said:
Haha. Yeah. I find it hard to believe you could be like aj and not see the elephant in the room .
The saker wrote a good article last month on the same topic. You essentually cannot discuss politics at national or global level without mentioing the jews.
Jimmy said:
sorry i meant to say
” He went form saying that the 9/11 was an inside job to saying that it was Saudi Arabia “
RR is s italian. sad! said:
even the reichstag fire and the assassination of kirov weren’t inside jobs.
because an event has political significance does not mean that those who benefited from it did it.
RR is s italian. sad! said:
jones is like oliver stone. he’s made bank by being paranoid, and he’s not pretending.
i very much doubt he’d score above 120 on any IQ test.
pacas said:
i remember like in one episode of the Alex Jones show when he was driving,a cop who pulled him over said to Alex “You talk fast for a Texan.” lol. his verbal skills were honed in his past career as a comedian named Bill Hicks.
GondwanaMan said:
Pacas, stop trolling
Jason (a) michael said:
Is Jones. Jew. Given that he’s so veryjew friendly and his mannerisms all just. Makes it seem like he’s a Jew. Ihis Jewess wife.had left. Him
The Philosopher said:
I would guess Jones is a heavy drinker by the way. It would make sense.
The most interesting thing about jones is that he keeps bashing Hitler when his physiognomy, ideas and neurotype would suggest he would not be 1 million miles off Hitler’s views on how the world works.
I have never heard Jones talking about HBD. I would suggest not only he completely accepts it, but knew about it 20 years ago or possibly since his college years. I would bet he has heard of lynn and rushton possibly before Pumpkin did.
Jimmy said:
you’d be surprised to know that he is pretty politically correct when it comes to race.
He obviously knows whats up based on off comments he’s made about birth rates.
I remember him saying ” mexicans are the future of Texas” in a positive way
His ability to effectively feign anti-racism is why i believe he has an IQ in the 130’s
When i was at Berkeley i did the same thing and it was so successful that the liberals would cry to me about injustices against people of color
There is absolutely no downside to being seen as a liberal in either an academic or corporate setting
The Philosopher said:
Agreed.
The Philosopher said:
If a man is willing to entertain 90% of ideas and follows up and investigates 50% of them, will he know more than an aspy who entertains 20% if dieas and investigats 100% of them?
HYPERREALITY MON FRERE.
meLo said:
“If a man is willing to entertain 90% of ideas and follows up and investigates 50% of them, will he know more than an aspy who entertains 20% if dieas and investigats 100% of them?”
Entertain is not the proper word, for the point you are trying to make
By aspy Im sure you’re trying to include scientists, who are supposed to entertain 100% of their ideas and investigate 100% of them.
The other man is just a prole.
pumpkinperson said:
Scientists don’t entertain HBD
RaceRealist said:
You’re aware that HBD is more than racial and ethnic differences right? Even then there are a good amount of scientists who are into HBD (your narrow definition).
pumpkinperson said:
RR in practice HBD primarily refers to racial/ethnic behavioral genetics. But you define it literally because you’re an idiot.
meLo said:
“Scientists don’t entertain HBD”
Yes they do. HBD is not accepted for multiple reasons
1) Besides mild correlates like myopia there have been no genes found that cause intellectual gaps between races.
2) Race is factually not a genetic concept within humans. It is morphological though, but even this is disputed in some cases.
3. There is no proper evolutionary explanation for the perceived discrepancies, assuming they’re not incredibly recent adaptations to begin with.
Literally everything you do on this blog is based off of assumptions not actually objective evidence. I thought you were already aware of this?
pumpkinperson said:
1) Besides mild correlates like myopia there have been no genes found that cause intellectual gaps between races.
Before skin colour genes were discovered scientists still believed racial skin colour differences were genetic so this is not good excuse. Same with hair texture, lip thickness, nose width & countless other racial phenotypes
2) Race is factually not a genetic concept within humans. It is morphological though, but even this is disputed in some cases.
I’m sure lots of taxonomic classifications that have traditionally been defined by morphology don’t perfectly match to genes but it hardly matters because humans differ phenotypically by geographic ancestry whether you want to call it race or not
3. There is no proper evolutionary explanation for the perceived discrepancies, assuming they’re not incredibly recent adaptations to begin with.
You could say the same about almost any racial-ethnic phenotype
RaceRealist said:
There are 6 genes that code for skin color. 12 if you count inter ethnic variation. Whites have higher rates of slc24a5 which codes for light skin. And the correlation between myopia and IQ is a weak .14 according to a 2015 meta-analysis.
RaceRealist said:
Melo are you not aware of David Piffer’s recent work?
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/genetics-of-racial-differences-in-intelligence-updated/
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-dna-of-genius-n2/
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/comments-on-piffer-from-prof-posthuma/
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/piffer-replies-to-prof-posthuma/
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/a-piffer-pause/
He also showed up in the comment section to clear some things up. Though I await to see if other researchers replicate this.
RaceRealist said:
By the way Melo, I’m reading Darwin’s Unfinished Symphony: How Culture Made the Human Mind and Kevin Laland talks about how our big brains—and our intelligence—were made from a feedback loop of social learning which caused bigger brain size and that bigger-brained species are better able to socially learn than other smaller-brained species. I’ll give more of my thoughts after I read the chapter on the evolution of intelligence.
What he talks about is very similar to Skoyles’ and Sagan’s argument about ‘symbols’ and ‘mindware’ driving the evolution of our brains and intelligence. They both have similar theories on the evolution of the mind and brain, it’s interesting to see how much overlap there is between the two books.
meLo said:
Pumpkin,
“Same with hair texture, lip thickness, nose width & countless other racial phenotypes”
All much more easier to define and recognize than intelligence.
“differ phenotypically by geographic ancestry whether you want to call it race or not”
Right, well genetic classification tends to have authority over regional morphological variations.
“You could say the same about almost any racial-ethnic phenotype”
How?
RR
“Melo are you not aware of David Piffer’s recent work?”
No I wasn’t thanks for the links. I remember reading something similar way back, measuring “educational attainment genes”
https://openpsych.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=271
Of course this isn’t that definitive, the genes that express one phenotype in a particular ethnic group may not be the same in another.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4096801/
Did you hear that the date of our species is 100,000 years older now? It’s starting to revive the theory that neanderthals were copying our tools.
https://phys.org/news/2017-06-moroccan-fossil-rearranges-homo-sapiens.html
https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v546/n7657/full/nature22336.html
https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v546/n7657/full/nature22335.html
RaceRealist said:
“No I wasn’t thanks for the links. I remember reading something similar way back, measuring “educational attainment genes””
I’m highly skeptical of any studies that claim ‘genes for’ X have been found because, in reality, that’s not the case. It’s great for click-bait though.
“Of course this isn’t that definitive, the genes that express one phenotype in a particular ethnic group may not be the same in another.”
Thanks for the link. I haven’t jumped to conclusions on this, mainly because I want to see a few replications from different researchers (even better if they were non-hereditarians) before any conclusions are jumped to. I know of a similar paper stating that most genetic associations with intelligence are false positives.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3498585/
I’ve been reading a few books on intelligence—new books just released—and I’ll be damned if they don’t make a good case against hereditarianism.
And of course that genes that code for intelligence shouldn’t necessarily code for intelligence in other races but my co-blogger Scott Jameson told me that even though Piffer’s model is based on 9 alleles that the odds that the first 9 alleles tested ever observed were all coincidentally skewed by race are 0,0004 percent. I still await replication from other researchers.
“Did you hear that the date of our species is 100,000 years older now? It’s starting to revive the theory that neanderthals were copying our tools.”
Of course. The social learning/copying aspect of the drive of intelligence is interesting and I’m interested what my thoughts will be at the end of the book.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it were pushed back another 100ky making our species 400k years old. That’s what evidence out of the Levant states with erectus evolving a smaller body size to hunt smaller, quicker game after the extinction of the elephant 400 kya that led to the emergence of a new species.
Maybe this is a proto-Homo sapiens?
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0028689
Love the caloric and macro breakdown of erectus’ diet.
meLo said:
“quicker game after the extinction of the elephant 400 kya”
What? There are still elephants around lol
RaceRealist said:
“What? There are still elephants around lol”
The disappearance of elephants from the Levant some 400 kyr ago coincides with the appearance of a new and innovative local cultural complex – the Levantine Acheulo-Yabrudian and, as is evident from teeth recently found in the Acheulo-Yabrudian 400-200 kyr site of Qesem Cave, the replacement of H. erectus by a new hominin.
Sorry, the disappearance of elephants from the Levant** was a pressure. This also lends credence to the endurance running hypothesis.
The Philosopher said:
Stalin either developed paranoia or was he innately a para-schiz type?
Hard to say until I read a biography. There’s nothing that suggests to me in his wiki entry that is innately paranoid. Hitler does have some things – the accusatory brow, artistic background and straight talking personality – which Stalin did not have.
I suspect Stalin became paranoid in response to his climb up the Bolshevik greasy pol with high IQ psychopaths surrounding him and was not innately para shiz. In such circumstances it is best to shoot first, ask questions later. Stalin is a very interesting person worth studying because what he did is definitely a considerable acheivement knowing what we know about the traits of the various races of man.
One thing that seperates Hitler from Stalin was that Stalin was a run of the mill criminal mastermind. But Hitler had a religious devotion to his ‘mission’ and abstained from sex in order to keep his ‘purity’. His language is extremely idealist and romantic. Stalin was much more calculating and a habitual liar. Some believe Stalin’s real name Dju-gahsvilli indicates jewish heritage. (Dju=jew). Stalin didn’t believe in communism at all.
They are nowhere near the same personality. Hitler killed to ‘cleanse’ in favour of an abstraction. Stalin killed because people were ‘in the way’ – this later was to include the jews he rose to prominence with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besarion_Jughashvili
Very interesting relationship with his father Stalin had. I could be completely worng about stalin as there are some other anecdotes I have read that show Stalin was not a lizard like calculating Lex Luthor type.
The Philosopher said:
Of course the one man worth understanding to understand the 20th century is of course.
Allen Welsh Dulles.
American history cannot be understood without reading that book.
Xanadan said:
Why do you assume people have to be exceptionally bright to be a talk show host? Is it because Oprah is a talk show host?
Look at Muhammed Ali, never short of a quote but very far from a genius on IQ terms.
That said, to instantly assimilate, in conversation mathematical or scientific or mental/philosophical concepts is more difficult – so people who can do that are probably high IQ.
pumpkinperson said:
I don’t think talk show hosts have to be exceptionally bright, I just think IQ helps more than in most occupations, so on average they’re very smart.
Afrosapiens 🇫🇷🇪🇺 said:
To PP,
I’ve been busy this week and I’ll be away this week-end so RR and I’s guest post will only be ready on Monday or Thursday.
pumpkinperson said:
Okay, that’s fine
Jason (a) michael said:
Alex Jones is a knownbullshitter. He used to be good some. Years back but even then I’d watch it just for the man’s good vocabulary and most of.his ideas and theories. Appear insanely. Erroneous. Now he’s gotten to mainstream and it’s even worse. It was great to see when David Duke annihilating Jones a. Few months back during a show.Though not a fan of the faggot David Duke, it was more than appeasing to. Kick alexjones’ smarmy ass.
RaceRealist said:
It’s going to be a solid article. These guys aren’t ready…
The Philosopher said:
Its going to be a n advert.
RaceRealist said:
It’s going to be a demolition of Rushton’s misuse of r/K theory and when all is said and done you’ll have no retort other than “look at the names of the people who are cited!”, as if that has a place I’m. A serious discussion. Rushton was wrong with his interpretation ofnr/K selection as well as his main citation for the “r/K continuum”. Maybe you’ll understand after Afro and I demolish Rushton’s theory for good, so bad that PP will never bring it up again because he won’t have a good retort.
The Philosopher said:
Ok so let me destroy it in advance.
If rushton named it orange abd melon theory and his model had same predictive and explanatory power would you be still so hung up on how oranges and lemons on labelling as opposed to the logic?
RaceRealist said:
The “logic” used would still be wrong. It’d still be in the vein of the r/K model which is not applicable to human races. He also reversed r and K selection. What’s so hard to understand about that?
pumpkinperson said:
RR you’re not making any sense
RaceRealist said:
If he had not used the term rK and instead used a different name with the same underlying principles, it’d still be wrong. That does make sense. His model is based off of an ecological model that’s not even in use anymore and had been falsified for a lot of different species. The fact that it doesn’t apply to humans and if it did it would. Be reversed is the nail in the coffin for his application of r/K to humans.
pumpkinperson said:
His model is based off of an ecological model that’s not even in use anymore and had been falsified for a lot of different species.
How was it falsified?
The fact that it doesn’t apply to humans
Why not?
and if it did it would. Be reversed
You have yet to demonstrate this.
RaceRealist said:
Don’t worry my friend. All will be revealed soon enough. Have some patience. I don’t want to ruin the surprise!
pumpkinperson said:
Well until you and Afro reveal your debunking, stop claiming Rushton’s been debunked.
Mental Phenomena said:
rr perhaps you will talk about sexual selection and intelligence. you used to hint at a further discussion of such. i do think black women or more intelligent than black men and among the race with the opposite sexual characteristics white men are more intelligent than white women. there is no doubt about the latter. the situation here is quite complicated but it appears to me that black men are more homogeneous than black women and from what i have seen are interested quite exclusively in sports, rap music, and drugs. i’m not sure very much about black women but they fill honors classes at an astonishingly greater rate than black men.
Mental Phenomena said:
also rr what is your explanation for why women do not prefer asian men? i have read that asian men were preferred second after white men. i have also read that asian men are much less preferred than such.
The Philosopher said:
When is jason going to blog in response to race realists charged language?
JS said:
Some of Jones’ conspiracy theories are credible, while others are outrageous.
Jones comes across as an above average IQ individual. I’m not sure about 140. Drop ten points and it’s more like it.
illuminaticatblog said:
chemtrails are real, I see them in the sky often.
the material in chemtrails comes from coal plants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_ash
Floride in the water supply comes from steal plants
RaceRealist said:
Chem trails are bullshit.
Fluoride in the water supply doesn’t decrease IQ as is commonly believed.
http://www.snopes.com/water-fluoridation-reduces-iq/
illuminaticatblog said:
“Chem trails are bullshit.”
I see them in the sky all the time.
so you’re the one full of shit.
I believe my own eyes rather than your drivel.
RaceRealist said:
… No I’m not. They aren’t Chem trails and those studies purporting to find that they’re dangerous to us have been retracted—2 times!
illuminaticatblog said:
So this pattern is nothing but Ice crystals?
illuminaticatblog said:
Jimmy said:
animekitty believes in chemtrails but thinks that joos are innocent babies.
what a mentally disabled kid
The Philosopher said:
Well the conspiracty is that tgeyre purposely spread. Not their existence maybe.
The Philosopher said:
Has aj covered the epstein paedo ring?
Thats the sort of thing he should be cvering.
Jimmy said:
He refused to continue covering pizzagate
that is one of the biggest red flags that he is controlled opposition
RaceRealist said:
Pizzagate is the definition of autism and finding something you’re looking for. Have you ever seen the video that was passed around of the likely girl saying “help me” (apparently), and people saying that it was coming from the basement of the building? How is anyone going to hear something supposedly coming from a basement in a building on the outside?
Pizzagate is literal autism and fitting puzzle pieces where they don’t fit. Internet sleuthing is idiotic.
RR is s italian. sad! said:
no RR.
putin ordered the 1999 apartment bombings. there is no other way to explain ryazan.
similarly there is no other way to explain some of podesta’s emails and his brother’s art work and association with abramovic except that both of them have something to hide. what that is idk. but it is. there’s absolutely no doubt except for autists like yourself. especially given the norway thing and edward heath.
epstein is an extremely fishy character. the most likely explanation is that he’s a professional blackmailer.
RR is s italian. sad! said:
and if you look to wikipedia for an account of events with contemporary political relevance you can guarantee it has been edited for the benefit of the powerful.
pacas said:
Pizzagate is the 2nd time in recent memory that “Alex Jones” backed down when sh*t got too real. remember like, a few years ago Alex apologized shortly after making a video like exposing the fact that Michelle Obama is transgender. when Joan Rivers was murdered for revealing Michelle’s true identity as a man, Alex p*ssied out and retracted his statements. (i’ve seen evidence that Joan Rivers actualy faked her death,but that’s another story). it’s possible that Alex was like threatened for covering Pizzagate. David Icke,and other rich and famous conspiracy theorists refuse to address Pizzagate directly. They’ve even propped up fake conspiracists like David “Seaman” (obvious fake name and Freudian innuendo) to distract people from the truth.
The Philosopher said:
What the houses view on aliens?
I think most of it is made up. But i suspect there may be some thing there.
Apparentnyl stealth tech was backward engineered from the roswell craft. But i suspect roswell was merely a high tech weapons test facility.
The best evidence ive seen is john podesta who as chief of staff asked clinton to sign an exec order releasing et sighti g by the millitary and it was denied to clinton!!
The Philosopher said:
Logically there must be alien intelligent lifeforms. The milky way is not even the oldest part of the (known) universe.
If so those lifeforms must have the tech to tell we exist even at human/earth logarithmic evolution entropy.
RaceRealist said:
I side with Stephen Hawking who says that if any intelligent lifeforms did exist that they probably destroyed themselves. And if any do exist I also agree with him that we wouldn’t want to meet them. Think when the Spanish landed in the Americas except on a galactic scale.
The Philosopher said:
Agreed. Entropy involves destruction of unviable life entities. That involves violence in our social reality.
The contracitory theory is if aliens were ant like or hiveminded.
RR is s italian. sad! said:
RR is the same guy who listed neil degrasse tyson and some pro-wrestler as among the world’s most influential people.
he’s a pseudo-intellectual. the little brains he may have would have been better used in cosa nostra, his people’s sole accomplishment.
RaceRealist said:
Tell me how Tyson isn’t influential? Hulk Hogan isn’t influential? Maybe I should have amended Hogan for The Rock but the point still stands.
pumpkinperson said:
Tell me how Tyson isn’t influential?
What major effect has he had on society? Did he cure a disease? Elect a President? Advance a political movement? Invent a new technology? Start a new genre of music?
RaceRealist said:
Influencing kids to get into science isn’t influence? Why such a narrow view of what is influential? Id say that getting kids interested in astronomy and science is pretty influential. Maybe I’m wrong? Who knows.
Define influential PP.
pumpkinperson said:
Define influential PP.
The more different the world would have been had you never been born, the more influential you are.
RaceRealist said:
OK. I still think Tyson is pretty influential. I don’t even care about the poll, I did it just cuz.
RR is s italian. sad! said:
there is no “logically” when the origin of life on earth is still an almost total mystery.
i’ll believe in aliens when i see one. until such time i’m a skeptic.
The Philosopher said:
Is it one – theres a biologist that shares my understanding of it who wrote a book a few months back The Vital Question – Nick Lane.
The Philosopher said:
I think schizos entertain alien life way more than aspies.
And aspies entertain sex dolls ai way more. Funny.
RuralRuski said:
Russian television, “ talking heads”, live broadcasting, names and size of the sample are unknown, Wonderlic Personnel Test, IQ (real distributional score, no WAIS estimate) . mean 118, range 100-154
RuralRuski said:
Strange data, ..
RuralRuski said:
Found the article . No. All the guys involved, including technical support, editors ect Mean 118, range 96-149. Sounds better )
RR is s italian. sad! said:
that aj is rich and famous does not mean he’s faking it.
that he has changed his tune in order to become even more rich and famous does not mean he’s faking it.
it means the conscious mind is always faking it in order to justify the rule of the unconscious mind.
do some introspection and observe other people more closely.
human behavior simply cannot be explained at the level of consciousness. the conscious mind is great at justifying the decisions taken by the unconscious mind. most people are a total mystery to themselves.
RR is s italian. sad! said:
for example, afro is totally unaware that he is a homosexual.
peepee won't post this said:
what’s even sadder about RR is that he doesn’t exist. he’s a peepee puppet.
RaceRealist said:
Yea. PP can feign not knowing what I know until he posts as me. Then everything I know materializes in his brain.
pumpkinperson said:
Poor RR
RuralRuski said:
Haha, I am RR too, And I do exist. Or may be not, who knows…)
GondwanaMan said:
What the hell, stop playing. RaceRealist and Pumpkin write nothing alike, don’t have similar beliefs, think nothing alike, etc.
Stop saying people are Pumpkin sockpuppets or you may make JS go paranoid-beserk again and leave.
Name redacted by pp, June 16, 2017 said:
btw. usually i’m talking out of my ass. but my ass is wise. very wise.
according to wikipedia: of the 30 richest people in russia, 7 are danish or part danish.
in the early years of putin’s reign 7 would have been 27. 90% of the oligarchs were danish. this according to a report by a dane on the NewsHour on amy chua’s World on Fire, published 2002, a book which a white non-dane could never have published. amy chua is married to a dane.
the richest person in russia is danish, but i’d never heard of him. here’s the list. hymie may want to amend it.
“x” means danish. the danes who remain have been on the list of russia’s richest for a long time. all of the new people are non-danish.
1 Leonid Mikhelson x
2 Alexey Mordashov
3 Vladimir Lisin
4 Gennady Timchenko
5 Alisher Usmanov
6 Vagit Alekperov
7 Mikhail Fridman x
8 Vladimir Potanin
9 Andrey Melnichenko
10 Viktor Vekselberg x
11 German Khan x
12 Roman Abramovich x
13 Mikhail Prokhorov
14 Viktor Rashnikov
15 Dmitry Rybolovlev
16 Alexei Kuzmichev
17 Andrei Skoch
18 Sergey Galitsky
19 Iskander Makhmudov
20 Leonid Fedun
21 Mikhail Gutseriyev
22 Suleyman Kerimov
23 Oleg Deripaska
24 Pyotr Aven x
25 Alexander Abramov
26 Andrey Guryev
27 Sergei Popov
28 Andrei Kozitsyn
29 Dmitry Kamenshchik
30 Yuri Milner x
Name redacted by pp, June 16, 2017 said:
furthermore the old oligarchs have zero political power. whereas under yeltsin they were the government.
RuralRuski said:
True. I think, Lisin is ” danish” too
some russians look danish. said:
i just checked to see if “dane” occurs in their wiki.
i agree lisin looks danish, but he's not said:
that is control-f “dane”. according to wikipedia lisin is an orthodox christian, but he could be a convert of course.
Jimmy said:
” 2 Alexey Mordashov”
He has a son called Ilya which is an extremely common jewish first name.
99% of people from eastern Europe called Ilya are jewish
I have worked with 3 people called Ilya and all of them were jews from Russia
The only Ilya i’ve met who wasnt full jewish was a high school classmate of mine who was half Iranian and half jewish. His mom was an Uzbeki Jew from the Soviet union and his dad was a communist Iranian .
I felt so sorry for that guy because the area i’m from was/is overwhelmingly white and he would be so desperate for us to avoid seeing his father because he had a light yellow completion.
I remember his mother, who had white skin, drop him off for soccer practice and he would go out of his way to introduce us to his mother.
Sometimes his mother couldn’t pick him up and so his dad did and whenever that happened he would avoid him and pretend like he didnt know him
one day his dad walked up to the pitch and shouted ” Ilya ! its getting late ! get in the car ”
the guys face went completely red ( Ilya had white skin from his mom) .
I went up to him and said ” you’re dads calling you ” and he frantically replied ” he’s not my dad ! do i look like him ! i’m white ! how can i have a non-white dad !” LOL
the poor guy spent the next 15 minutes shouting at his son while Ilya just acted like he didn’t know him.
That experience was a major turning point in my life.
That experience gave me a glimpse into what kind of psychological problems can occur when you allow miscegenation.
back then i wasn’t a ” racist” so i remember seeing ilya on thursday and telling him that he shouldn’t be ashamed of his dad and that he should show his dad more respect.
If the Jimmy back then was like the Jimmy of 2017 then i would have still told him to respect his dad but i would have also said that i fully understand why he wants to distance himself from his non-white side and that such a feeling was healthy and sign of good survival instincts .
i’ll take a look at the rest of that list later on today
I wouldn’t be surprised if 90% are chosen people
never trust wikipedia
it’s completely kosher
for years i have tired to edit the pages on the Chabad-Lubavitch but they keep deleting them.
They let you edit it and get a feeling of victory then they delete it after a while.
they do that again and again to break your will
Hitler was right
ian smith said:
miscegenation? between a jew and an persian?
you’re retarded jimmy. and inconsistent.
1. farsi is an indo-european language.
2. the iranian oil minister isn’t the only iranian with blue eyes. https://files.foreignaffairs.com/styles/large-alt/s3/images/articles/2016/03/13/vatanka_hitthegas_oilminister.jpg?itok=fLRw9NMk
3. a jew from uzbekistan is less white than an iranian.
look at mordashov’s picture. looks very NOT jewish.
a list of ilyas. are they 99% jewish?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya#Real_people
if you knew anything at all you would notice that 5 of the 7 have yiddish surnames, and abramovic has the “abram-“. “mordashov” is not yiddish.
ian smith said:
actually, if “aven” is yiddish then it’s 6 out of 7 + abramovic.
one thing about the jews, rarely do they do try to hide.
ian smith said:
the only jewish bolshevik with a name ending in “-v” was sverdlov.
ian smith said:
actually “abramavic” is a jewish surname except when it’s a serbian surname according to wikipedia.
RuralRuski said:
You may by right about ppl coming ( !) to your place, but if you came to mine, you would probably see that Ilya is more or less regular Russian name. I have Ilya among my close relatives . I am 100% russian , ethnically ( if such thing only exist) .
The Philosopher said:
Many oligarchs are in exile and their money is in Switzerland though or with Rothschild.
(Hence the hatred for Putin).
[Putin is also a psychopath by the way. Similar to Schwarzmann. He is mistaken for aspergers. But he has a good sense of humour and charm from listening to him. ]
The more I look at Yeltsin’s regime, the more I see it as cover for a jew fraud fest. Remember – the economic ‘advisors’ sent in to ‘reform’ the economy where Jeff Sachs and our good friend Larry Summers. And rothschild also orchestrated a privatisation scheme in the UK in the late 80s under Thatcher.
RuralRuski said:
there are many candidates for that. . If Lisin is not your type, guys, try Deripaska. Good hunting)
spanish inquisition much? said:
tyson and his brother mike tyson are entertainers, like oprah.
entertainers make no difference.
their fame is not commensurate with their influence.
spanish inquisition much? said:
unless they become president like reagan and trump.
pumpkinperson said:
Or elect a president like Oprah
the wisdom of arnold said:
trump did have success as a genuine businessman up to the completion of trump tower. since then he’s just been a professional self-promoter/entertainer. his business is the name “trump”. absurd, but reality. his candidacy was also intended as promotion. he was surprised he won. now the trump name is more valuable than ever.
pumpkinperson said:
Even though trump’s father was on the forbes 400, i agree trump deserves some credit as a businessman because most children of the forbes 400 never make the list themselves
The most impressive thing about trump is that he’s adapted to 3 different fields: real estate, TV & politics
But i fear age has not been kind to his fluid IQ. He survives on crystallized wisdom
name redacted by PP, June 16, 2017 said:
they regress precipitously to the mean when given a random cognitive test.
lie made up by and repeated ad nauseum by peepee. her only evidence for it contradicts the abstract of the investigators whose evidence it was.
pathetic.
pumpkinperson said:
Don’t shoot the messenger Mug of Pee. I’ve found 3 studies where students with SAT scores around +3 SD from the general U.S. population, scored around +1.5 SD on official IQ tests. That’s just an empirical fact that none of the authors of the studies would deny. Interpret it however you like.
the messanger is lying. said:
you’ve found no studies peepee-tard. but you do keep lying.
the probability someone who scored 140 on one IQ test would score below 125 on another is 22% given the conditions i’ve listed.
pumpkinperson said:
the probability someone who scored 140 on one IQ test would score below 125 on another is 22% given the conditions i’ve listed.
And yet the empirically observed frequency is much higher, which is why I question some of the conditions you listed, namely a high correlation between the SAT and official IQ tests in the general U.S. population. In the Frey & Detterman study, the observed correlation between the SAT and Raven among elite college students was 0.48, but after correcting for range restriction, the correlation was increased to 0.72. However that doesn’t necessarily mean there’s 0.72 correlation between the SAT and Raven in the general U.S. population. What it means is that if all American young adults had the same academic background as elite college students, THEN the correlation would be 0.72 in the general population.
pumpkinperson said:
even if the did regress “precipitously”, the reason has nothing to do with selection. it has to do with SLDR.
It has to do with selection in the sense that if colleges used the Raven to select students instead of the SAT, then their Raven scores would have been around +3 SD and their SATs would have been +1.5, so whatever test is used to select them ends up giving them inflated results, relative to other tests.
SLDR may simply enhance the phenomenon.
blacked gay brazilian edition starring afro and santo said:
but the level of inflation is no greater than predicted by the correlation of the two tests for the population as a whole without SLDR. it’s just bigger in points, because the first score is bigger.
and the raven’s in that f&d study had a low ceiling and the raven’s is known to have a correlation with other IQ tests much smaller than .8.
pumpkinperson said:
Ceiling bumping might have been an issue. I tried to test for that by observing whether the median Raven score of high SAT people was higher than the mean and it wasn’t, but even the median could have been deflated by ceiling bumping effects.
pumpkinperson said:
but the level of inflation is no greater than predicted by the correlation of the two tests for the population as a whole without SLDR. it’s just bigger in points, because the first score is bigger.
In the Frey and Detterman study, they estimated the general population correlation to be 0.72, which means that the average Raven IQ of people who are 46 IQ points above the mean on the SAT should be 46(0.72) = 33 IQ points above the U.S. mean on the Raven. Instead they were only 21 points higher. This suggests that either F&D overestimated the general population correlation, or SLODR or that I’ve incorrectly estimated the IQ equivalents.
I found similar results in a study of Harvard students taking an abbreviated version of the WAIS-R and Dartmouth students taking the WAIS, however in the latter study my conversion of the SAT to IQ might have been too generous because there’s limited information about the SAT distribution in the 70s.
blacked gay brazilian edition starring afro and santo said:
if harvard students are chosen at random from those with IQs greater than or equal to x, such that they average a score of 140, then one would expect the average score on another test to be about 132.5.
pumpkinperson said:
if harvard students are chosen at random from those with IQs greater than or equal to x, such that they average a score of 140, then one would expect the average score on another test to be about 132.5.
If there’s a 0.81 correlation between the two tests in the general population.
some russians look danish. said:
just .80 and only if there’s no SLDR.
no peepee this calculation is actually quite involved. you don’t know how to do it.
but it is interesting that 132 is the expected score for those who score exactly 140.
the truncated normal distribution with a mean of 140 would be truncated at 134.92.
pumpkinperson said:
Maybe we’re misunderstanding each other.
All I’m saying is that if Harvard students are cognitively representative of all Americans capable of scoring 40 IQ points above the U.S. mean on the SAT, yet score 32 points above the mean on official IQ tests, then that implies a correlation of 32/40 = 0.8. That’s not an involved calculation, it’s simple linear regression.
The problem for you is Harvard students actually score higher than that on the SAT and lower than that on official IQ tests (for whatever reason)
half tiger, half gorilla, and half horse penis said:
but i specified that 140 was the average not the exact score of every harvard student. the scores have a distribution with 140 as its mean.
if that distribution were a truncated normal distribution, then the truncation point would be 134.92.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_normal_distribution
now the question is if the correlation is 0.80, then what is the mathematical expectation of harvard students’ scores on test #2?
the answer is about 132.5.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_normal_distribution
i didn’t do the integral i just generated 1,000 random points from the truncated normal distribution and 1,000 random scores on test #2 given the score on test #1 and the correlation of tests #1 and #2.
pumpkinperson said:
but i specified that 140 was the average not the exact score of every harvard student. the scores have a distribution with 140 as its mean.
I know you meant the average of a distribution but I assume those above and below the mean cancel each other out, and so it should work out the same as if every Harvard student had the mean score.
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Jimmy said:
The case of the hapas is tragic .
Growing up in Cali i have known so many hapas and the way their asian moms treat them is just disgusting.
Everything on that pic is 100% correct based on my experience.
To be fair to asian chicks i would say that the inferiority-complex they have is mostly seen in those who are fresh off the boat.
At Berkeley i got to know a lot of of asian-american chicks who respect themselves and dont worship me for being a tall blue eyed white man
Those chicks are usually the more liberal types. With the conservative asians its exactly like the chick on that pic
oh and when i say asians i am specifically referring to the chinese who are the most pathetic breed of asians.
when it comes to the respect i have for them i would put the chinese just one level above africans.
JS might have never stepped foot in Asia but every single observation he has made is spot on .
The one thing i would disagree with him on is that he has a very high opinion of the japanese who have the exact same inferiority complex
I dont know why but i just cant respect people who don’t respect themselves
I have more respect for a black nationalist than i would ever have for an asian
In an ideal world the hapas would not exist because we would have anti-miscegenation laws that would have prevented such undesirables from begin born.
i’m all for blaming feminists for the situation but you can only take that so far
we need to put some blame on the disgusting beta-male whites who hunt for a Waifu
Every time i see a white-asian couple i see a pathetic creature of a man who looks either extremely fragile or disgustingly obese.
I remember being in a gym in Frisco and hearing some guys talking about the asian chicks they went out with. One of them said ” The asians let you do what ever you want with them on the first night !. They’ll even do anal on the first night !. You meet them in person for the first time, then spend 1 hour eating with them, then you take her home and do anal ! ”
naturally i thought the guy was talking BS until i went on a number of dates with asians and saw how easy they were.
I never pulled the trigger on an asian who was too easy. I’ve done it with very liberal asian-american chicks who waited until like the 5th date.
whats even more disgusting is how so many of those beta-males are white nationalists.
The most racist people i have ever met in my life are hapas
I knew a hapa called Chris who was half-white nationalist and half Chinese freshie.
We went to a sushi place and the guy serving the sushi was a black kid maybe still in high school.
when chris saw the black kid his face went red and then said ” what the hell is a nigger doing here !? ” ” this is not a fried chicken and grits place ! ”
I thought he was just saying that to make us laugh but as the kid came over to take orders chris said ” Do you think its acceptable for a black to be around asian food ? ” I was stunned into silence.
ian smith said:
peepee is a happa. you’re hurting her feelings.
JS said:
East Asianese bring no value or agenda to Western Civilization. Perhaps with a few Japanese who make exquisite sushi or install bookstores that stock anime and literature from their native country.
Hispanics and blacks are in America, due in part as colonial subjects of European imperialism. East Asianese do not have this legacy. They aren’t conquerors and they make boring elites, so they have no business to be in the New World.
If I was a immigration officer, I would try to halt all immigration from East and South Asia. A Levantine and to a certain extent a North African from the Maghreb, is more valuable than a dozen Chinese or South Asian H1Bs who come to America and offer nothing in return, except deflate wages and live a parasitic lifestyle.
JS said:
It’s quite interesting how I was speaking to a French Canadian who thinks their Anglophone neighbors envy them. One of the remarks he made in a funny sarcastic way, was that kebab owners draw more business than Chinese takeaways. Simply, the French Speaking province has more interesting immigrants while British Columbia and Ontario attract cultural-less Chinese nationals who do nothing but deflate wages for native White Canadians and inflate the real estate market.
The Philosopher said:
I think berbers are probably as bad as blacks and jews. Berbers tend to be in between.
They invented the term ‘swarthy’ to characterise them.
Berbers=from barbary=’barbarians’. Literally the term comes from north africa.
Mental and Other Phenomena said:
i do not have much experience with east asians but there was one guy who I was forced to assimilate with and our social interactions slowly through the years went from talking here and there to apathy to insults and segregating himself from me to completely disregarding me and not responding when I said something to him. and they do that stupid thing where they do not even glance at you or look at you all when they do not like you.
ian smith said:
“swarthy” is related to the german word “schwartz”. “they” did not invent “swarthy” to describe berbers. just like arnold “schwartzen-egger” is not a berber. his name means “black plowman”.
ian smith said:
it is odd.
white crossed with black or amerindian is not weird looking.
but maybe this is just because these crosses are so common in the americas.
and any mixture of caucasoids is not weird looking, pace hymie.
but white crossed with chinese or eskimo is usually weird looking.
what do i mean by “weird”?
and it’s just usually. not always. sometimes such people are good looking. like JFK jr. he got the best traits from his parents.
that is, if europeans had colonized ne asia then the happa might not look “weird”.
ian smith said:
keanu reeves is a hapa.
ian smith said:
actually the white amerindian cross is weird looking if the result has injun eyes. or rather canadian injun eyes. native americans south of canada have round eyes.
how is it “deal with it” is only 1/8th injun yet she has canadian injun eyes?
doesn’t add up.
there are half white half native crosses in the US who are impossible to distinguish from white.
JS said:
From a HBD standpoint and a historical viewpoint, East Asianese do not belong in Western Civilization. Furthermore, they have nothing to offer in a cultural sense. In the French Speaking province of Canada, the Chinese are just restaurant owners and martial arts instructors. The same principle applies for Middle Easterners, Latinos, and the French speaking blacks who live there. They fill a small niche or role and that is it. Unlike the Anglo Prole Sphere, these groups compete and demand undeserving privileges with Whites, which leads us to the dysfunction that we now see in English speaking domains. Pumpkin may wonder why do I like his home country, but not where he comes from. Simple, I dislike Anglo Proles and their East Asian followers.
ian smith said:
the HBD-sphere should have at least one spain supremacist.
that’s JS. the not 100% white puerto rican.
but JS isn’t only a spanish over indigenes weirdo.
he’s a spanish over other europeans weirdo.
he thinks thinks the spanish armada should have sunk the anglo-prole fleet.
by “weirdo” i mean “very unusual” not “weird”.
get over it.
spain’s days of world domination are over.
actually…
spain would be resurrected as the world’s richest and most powerful country if…
latin america ever amounted to anything.
i say this as a stockholder on CABK and GAS.
as hymie has said…
the spanish are the equals of other western europeans despite their short stature and swarthiness.
but they AREN’T the herrenvolk.
like JS believes.
JS said:
Mr. Anglo Prole, Ian Smith from the British Isles — of course I’m an outlier. Spaniards don’t occupy the HBD sphere, and they shouldn’t for a number reasons which you can figure out. Hint — Spain isn’t a cesspool like England or the United States, and interestingly it’s has less reactionary politics than Italy or Greece.
If you read my previous comments from a long time ago, Spaniards are not common in Anglo Prole domains, especially in America. The more widespread the group, the prolier that group in the English speaking nation. So groups like the Irish, Italians and Ashkenazim Jews are very prolish in America, simply because lower class people are usually the ones who immigrate to America and any Anglo nation for that matter. Just like the Japanese are not as prolish as the Chinese, because America has a lot more Chinos than Japonese. The prole behavior comes from associating with your co-ethnics who are usually of the lower classes which Lion has stated many times, that “social class” behaviors come from association. Anglo Prole society is very much built on immigrants, and most of them come from the lower classes. By now, you know my comments always indicate Anglo Sphere Nations are garbage compared to Western European Nations. It’s the immigrants and also the Anglo culture in itself. So it’s a double-toxic prole combination for you.
As for my Puerto Rican/Iberian background, I came to the mainland as an early teenager, because my parents were looking for opportunities aboard, since Puerto Rico was devastated by Hurricane Hugo, which was a very powerful storm that wiped out the Eastern part of the Island, especially among the agricultural sectors, where my parents worked in, but not as menial day laborers.
Spain already has claimed fame for settling in the New World and exploiting it for resources to achieve extraordinary wealth. It’s ultimate failure is now America’s failure. Much of the New World was or has become a failure. Spain did it first by ignoring HBD. Anglo Proles are now only learning, so who’s more superior? At least, Spain laid a caste for the different races/mixed groups from low to high, while America has always been deceptive with “all men are created equal”.
And my comments about Québec is correct. Read other forum comments and I’m in line with those commenters. It’s the only healthy place in North America.
You don’t like strivers, well, strivers are found in Anglophone Canada and of course, America, but not in Québec. One group of people known for their striving that avoid Québec are East Asianese, especially the Chinese.
GondwanaMan said:
For some reason I didn’t realize JS was Puerto Rican. Ah well…
The one thing about JS that fascinates me is his almost single-minded obsession with one topic (more single-minded than the Philosopher). And for JS, that’s the evil of the Anglo-Prole-Sphere. So evil and despicable it is…
Truthteller said:
A Levantine and to a certain extent a North African from the Maghreb, is more valuable than a dozen Chinese or South Asian H1Bs who come to America and offer nothing in return, except deflate wages and live a parasitic lifestyle.
You should visit France, here it’s not the chinese immigrants who live on welfare, harass women on the street & the public transports, have the highest criminality rate, and commit terrorist attacks.
JS said:
The Chinese have nothing significant to contribute to Western Civilization, other than their cuisine, New Year’s parade, and maybe Kung Fu.
Still, they are not interesting to most White people, except to those with low, base fetish tendencies like White men who like petite Chinese women. Furthermore, it seems like Chinese are clueless of themselves as a people, and whatever they do has a superficial quality to it.
Levantine Arabs, the highest caste of the Arabs/Muslim groups, blend well with White people, and White people find their culture interesting. There is a genuine cultural and intellectual fascination coming from this attraction.
Why do the Chinese need to immigrate to the West? They were not even colonial subjects of the Europeans.
Truthteller said:
I’m not fascinated by Chinese, as you are stupidly implying.
You should simply ask any white Frenchman if he would rather lived in a chinese or a muslim neighborhood. The answer is obvious.
Chinese may not be interesting but at least you can ignore them, which is not the case of some other minorities who constantly need to remind you their presence.
Philly 'Lawdog' S said:
One thing I give JS is that although is hammering the same note on the piano, its very well reasoned and sonorous note and completely different way of seeing the world via a socio-cultural lens. I don’t see things like that myself in terms of culture relating to class. I see it more as relating to race, and specifically the race of man that controls the public conversation via its control of academia/media.
JS forgets america was petit bourgeois up until the mid 80s in terms of culture. Not so different than Western Europe. It wasn’t trailer park trash until a bit later. The consolidation of the media by Bill Clinton in his Telecoms Act under Zion is a significant Idiocracy factor. And the looting of Western countries by their plutocrats another from the 80s onwards.
But JS seems to imply it would have happened anyway without Jews, and I tend to see the logic in that.
JS said:
You refuse to accept my viewpoint simply because you are Chinese or one of those alt-right proles who’s never met anyone outside their one horse town.
Again, Chinese migrants have nothing to contribute to Western Civilization and thus have no bragging rights to live among Whites. Furthermore, they were never colonial subjects of European Imperialism, where immigration status is granted to them as a form of “reparation” asylum.
JS said:
Anglophone Canada has been turning into a multicult mess, sort of a mini-America and Jews are not responsible for this problem. Simply, Anglo Proles are poor administrators of their own domains.
Anglo Prole Canada is where you find a mini-mart China of high IQ individuals from East Asia, the most dominant racial minority in Canuckistan, with the exception of French Speaking Québec. Canadian language laws require everything in English and French, yet the Anglo Proles can’t even make their Chinese subjects speak in either language. Québec on the other hand, you find allophones. People who speak more than 2 languages. There are more Hispanics in Québec than there are Chinese in Alabama.
Truthteller said:
You refuse to accept my viewpoint simply because you are Chinese or one of those alt-right proles who’s never met anyone outside their one horse town.
What a dumb Puerto Rican.
I’m French you moron. I probably know more about the North Africans you love so much than anyone on this blog. I grew up in southeastern France, which is invaded by them.
Again, Chinese migrants have nothing to contribute to Western Civilization and thus have no bragging rights to live among Whites.
Do you have reading trouble ? Nobody here said Chinese have to come to the West, their presence is simply nowhere near as upleasant as that of N.Africans (which is not only disagreeble, but more and more often, lethal).
JS said:
It turns out that the French don’t just ignore the Chinese, they want them out.
Both native Gauls and their French speaking colonial subjects hate them, and have committed violence against them.
Truthteller said:
you may make JS go paranoid-beserk again and leave.
Didn’t know this guy was mentally hill, now it make sense.
Jimmy said:
JS, don’t waste your time
Truthteller/Lyrion/Cocorico is a jew
He has used another alias which i have forgotten
its hard keeping track of all these crypto-jews
JS said:
Truthteller is a false flag-Parisian Zionist who likes the Red Chinese.
Both native French Parisians and their colonial black n brown subjects have been adamant about the unwanted Chinese presence.
Truthteller said:
To Jimmy,
Wonder if you are a muslim yourself, trying to pass for a nordic.
Typical muslim victimhood argument: if you don’t want low IQ agressive berbers in your country, you are playing for the jews, if you don’t blame Israël for every terrorist attacks, you are a crypto jew, and so on…
JS,
North Africans are causing more trouble in France than Chinese, that’s my point. Ideally, if we could get rid of both it would be great.
Jimmy said:
more diversionary tactics from the crypto-jew who keeps changing his handle
i’ll call you Avram from now on .
” Wonder if you are a muslim yourself, trying to pass for a nordic. ”
The only way to find out is too meet in person
so when do you want to meet ?
Truthteller said:
so when do you want to meet ?
Stop showing off, you are ridiculous.
Jimmy said:
” Stop showing off, you are ridiculous.”
showing off ? LOL
So me being seen in public is showing off ?
i’ll take that as a complement
so when are we going to meet ?
we need to test your little theory .
You don’t want to meet because you and i both know that when i meet you i’ll see a little hook nosed jew
Truthteller said:
This discussion is really getting embarassing.
If you truely want to meet me let’s simply share your mail adress, why all this flaunting ?
Jimmy said:
my mail address ? what ?
would you like my credit card details too ?
what a clown
jimmy is jewish. sad! said:
jimmy’s native language is not english.
[redacted by PP, June 22, 2017]
sad!
and there are no white people from yemen. whereas there are white people from iran, pakistan, and afghanistan.
Jimmy said:
” jimmy is jewish. sad! ”
Thats rich coming from the guy who
1. Has admitted to having a jewish surname
2. Has admitted to having a nose job
3. Has admitted to having fantasies about jewish chicks which clearly indicates some
genetic relatedness.
4. posts obscene sexual images of black junk. only Jews have that kind of obsession
5. Has admitted to the fact that his skin turns extremely dark brown when out in the sun. That is a major indicator of sepahrdic ancestry. Some mongrels in Europe have that problem too but its mostly an indicator of sephardic ancestry.
i keep telling you to sit down with your dad and demand the truth.
the more you delay it the less time you’ll have to get over the emotional breakdown
just do it
“and there are no white people from yemen ”
They are a minority but i’ve met many of them.
If i can get permission from my friend i’ll post some pics.
” white people from iran, pakistan, and afghanistan. ”
of course there are some white people in an area of 235 million + people.
Steinberg is still crying about my rejection of the term indo-european.
going back to my previous discussions with you, i have always said that western civilization is a european civilization.
When i think of my people i think of the English, the Dutch, the Germans, the Italians, the Spanish, the Flemish etc
There hasn’t been a single second of my life where i thought that the kurdish or the indians are my people
The term indo-european has no legitimacy but you keep crying about it for some strange reason.
even linguistically it has no meaning
watch a clip from an indian tv program and then watch a clip form an english tv program.
Its a completely different language family.
Most people are ignorant of the fact that the term “indo-european” was created by the british as a way of pacifying the Indians during their colonial rule of India
they would tell the indians that they were not being ruled by foreigners because they were all “indo-european ”
Steinberg is so stupid that he has fallen for 19th century British propaganda
no wonder he doesn’t believe that jews work together to achieve goals.
The media told him that was crazy so Steinberg calls it crazy.
If we had less steinbergs and more mel gibsons then the west would be over 99% white by now.
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Truthteller said:
[response redacted by PP, June 23, 2017]
The Philosopher said:
That infographic was made by a black woman I’d say, or a harpy feminist. The left hand side has barely concealed rage at being pumped and dumped by cads.
I can read minds. Thats my super-power.
Mental Phenomena said:
It seems to me that it was written by someone very woke. Unfortunately I do not know really in my opinion at least.
Mental Phenomena said:
philosophers have a central bias for reading minds if you know what i mean and they do other things. if there are differences in intelligence between people perhaps it is because some people do not hold the central thing of knowledge in a special place in their thinking or verbal analysis if you know what i mean.
The Philosopher said:
When I look at those statements, I know a jew brainwashed someone along the way. So I don’t blame the blue haired nose ring low IQ harpy that wrote that. I blame the jew puppetmaster.
dealwithit said:
Mugabe!
Recommend me something to watch
some russians look danish. said:
how about a movie of my junk.
dealwithit said:
no thanks
redd foxx's junk yard said:
the same result if the distribution is normal and centered at 140. so maybe the exact answer is 132.00.
E(test #2| test #1 = x) = rho*x. E(test #2) = E(E(rho*X)) = rho*E(E(X)) = rho*E(X).
so if that’s right they’re the same.
sanford and son and afro said:
i forgot EY(EX(X|Y=y)) = E(X).
sanford and son and afro said:
i forgot EY(EX(X|Y=y)) = E(X)..
ian smith said:
trying to do html subscript. didn’t work.
The Philosopher said:
Nothing wears a woman down than waiting around for a peak masculine man only to be pumped and dumped.
Contrary to the jewish feminists, women do want to submit and be affectionate and clean the house. But only for a leader or masculine man. If not, they act out or make angry political statement like that above that require some men to discipline them. AND THEY LIKE BEING DISCIPLINED.
My blonde hottie manager asked me to delete a slide in the presentation. I told her to delete it herself. And then pretended I didn’t say that and said I would suggest deleting it. Hahahaha. Then she agreed and I saved myself from being fired again.
The Philosopher said:
She has to believe in her mind I didn’t say that. That’s the key. The person that wrote that info graphic is definitely a woman who needs to have long conversations with me.
Bruno from Paris said:
Hunter college board members that selecting ony for hig IQ, they got succesful people but no people who would be leaders. I wonder if scholastic test are better to select for motivated people that IQ tests. if it wasn’t the case, University could impose IQ tests, and then select on other factors for motivation, like grades GPA, extra-currilar activities and interview (whic is very good to sport energy, interpersonal skills etc). There is the possibilty IQ tests are considered “prole”, but scholastic tests were also prole, before there were imposed upon everybody.
I quite believe the correlation to be in the 0.5_ -0.6_ area, because speaking to high 3sd SAT/GMAT/LSAT, they sound like low 2sd IQ. I really wonder why mensa think a top 5% GMAT is a top 2% IQ test. Maybe they want MBAs because they have so many lost people …
It would have been great if the founders of Mensa had designed a 3sd entry level instead of 2sd, and made a test costing a 3 000 pounds, free for Oxbridge students under 21, and with the money collected, create a beautiful and hype social club in London, wich would have been a place of influence and mutual help. An elite social club with private thearter, spa, restaurants etc. The same could have been done in New York.
Bruno from Paris said:
One thing which is certain, he oversmarted MEgyn Kelly by reporting his private conversation with her, and publishing it in his own site before the interview. He made plain obvious that she was a hard selling promotional lyer. That’s clever for someone like him being able to look good compared to NBC and Kelly. Good job ! Trump wished to have taped Comey (if he hasn’t). This one would have 🙂
The Philosopher said:
Lion is a bit of a loser.
And so am I at this current time. So I’ve been playing a lot of chrysis/chrysis 2 trying to distract myself from thinking. Best FPS I’ve ever played.
ian smith said:
video games for people past the age of 12 are for losers.
ian smith said:
especially video games post mario kart.
ideally a video game is like a sport. hand eye coordination, reaction time, with only a little bit of thought required.
ian smith said:
if i wanted to think playing a game i’d play chess or bridge or poker not some gay video game.
GondwanaMan said:
It’s amazing strategy games like Civilization and Age of Empires haven’t replaced chess as thinking man’s games. They’re kinda like chess but….better!
Jimmy said:
you just don’t have the complex reaction time needed for high level gaming.
my hardcore gaming days ended a while back but they were great days
if i had a kid and i had a choice between him watching TV or playing video games it wouldn’t even be close
ian smith said:
i agree for most tv and a small minority of video games.
my talent was racing games. i was genuinely talented. maybe i still am.
RaceRealist said:
Civilization is an amazing game. I still play V and didn’t get VI based on the reviews. I love nuking countries and then stem rolling them with the Wermacht at the end of the game after I nuke them. I use a Hitler mod to have him as a leader. There are tons of mods for Civ V, I probably wont stop playing until VIII comes out.
Mental and Other Phenomena said:
all video games require predictive insight and and there are other factors. the best games of course are those that are relevant and i think they are more effective for attaining knowledge than life experiences and reading books in many cases. i play a game concerning napoleonic warfare and i would not have learned so much about it from the limitations of reading a book about it.
music of all kinds should be illegal. said:
all video games require predictive insight and and…
are you a cat person puppet or what?
if only cat people had been gassed…
such a better world.
my dead airedale killed two cats.
i know.
i buried them.
cats?
what the fuck is wrong with cat people?
meLo said:
Civilization was awesome, but I had a thing for age of empires too. Love Rpg’s and fps
Mental and Other Phenomena said:
to a degree i understand you.
illuminaticatblog said:
you have a nice dogy
will "ian smith" turn into a jack-o-lantern? that is the question. said:
it is funny how history repeats itself.
1. stalin was not anti-danish but his purges were effectively anti-danish because the old bolsheviks were so danish. he killed old bolsheviks without discrimination.
2. putin too is probably not anti-danish but his purge of the old oligarchs was effectively anti-danish because they were 90% danish.
will "ian smith" turn into a jack-o-lantern? that is the question. said:
i assume pill is right. a lot of the old oligarchs have left russia and are still rich. but i expect they are a lot less rich than they were.
khodorkovsky is now worth “only” $500m according to wikipedia. and he was only half danish.
ian smith said:
professor shoe is at again. [ redacted by PP, June 17, 2017]
this time he’s playing the “consensus” card. the same card warmists play.
0. Intelligence is (at least crudely) measurable intelligence means lots of things. it’s not one thing. but if one insists that it be one thing, then, as i’ve always said, the average of a large battery is the best “operationalization”.
1. Intelligence is highly heritable (much of the variance is determined by DNA) again the most vague language treated as if it were precise by professor shoe. it is “highly heritable” within the local and restricted environments of most published studies. not all. turkheimer found zero correlation for twins raised in dire poverty. AND what does he mean by “determined”? does he mean “caused”? he himself doesn’t know.
2. Intelligence is highly polygenic (controlled by many genetic variants, each of small effect)
3. Intelligence is going to be deciphered at the molecular level, in the near future, by genomic studies with very large sample size…and secretariat’s belmont will be bested.
professor shoe’s “thing” is intelligence/IQ. he’s no exception to the rule…the rule:
he would have done better to say “IQ” rather than “the measurement of IQ”.
ian smith said:
but on #2.
this has produced the most controversy…among the comments that professor shoe allows.
but i don’t see it as much of a problem.
many genes of small effect might be likened to the estimation of NAVs for REITs.
an individual property (gene) cannot be valued with much accuracy.
but a portfolio of properties can be.
why?
because the errors in estimation cancel.
that is, “many genes of small effect” really means “the exact effect of a given gene is irrelevant…there is no ‘exact effect’…but the effect of many genes is fairly exact.”
The Philosopher said:
The ability to use analogic like robert above is a very high ability trait.
I use the word ability rather than intelligence.
Name redacted by PP, June 17, 2017 said:
i assume hitch never actually said that.
i got it from santo.
but it’s still awesome.
Carl Churchill said:
“It now looks as if the majority of the genetic variance in IQ is the product of mutational load, and the same may be true for many psychological traits. To the extent this is the case, a lot of human psychological variation must be non-adaptive.”
pumpkinperson said:
How could most of the variation be mutation load? That implies we all evolved to be geniuses and anyone who’s not is a mutant.
On the other hand maybe that makes sense
Afrosapiens 🇫🇷🇪🇺 said:
Good news for me:
Human genomes carry hundreds of mutations that are predicted to be deleterious in some environments, potentially affecting the health or fitness of an individual. We characterize the distribution of deleterious mutations among diverse human populations, modeled under different selection coefficients and dominance parameters. Using a new dataset of diverse human genomes from seven different populations, we use spatially explicit simulations to reveal that classes of deleterious alleles have very different patterns across populations, reflecting the interaction between genetic drift and purifying selection. We show that there is a strong signal of purifying selection at conserved genomic positions within African populations, but most predicted deleterious mutations have evolved as if they were neutral during the expansion out of Africa.
The Out-of-Africa (OOA) dispersal ∼50,000 y ago is characterized by a series of founder events as modern humans expanded into multiple continents. Population genetics theory predicts an increase of mutational load in populations undergoing serial founder effects during range expansions. To test this hypothesis, we have sequenced full genomes and high-coverage exomes from seven geographically divergent human populations from Namibia, Congo, Algeria, Pakistan, Cambodia, Siberia, and Mexico. We find that individual genomes vary modestly in the overall number of predicted deleterious alleles. We show via spatially explicit simulations that the observed distribution of deleterious allele frequencies is consistent with the OOA dispersal, particularly under a model where deleterious mutations are recessive. We conclude that there is a strong signal of purifying selection at conserved genomic positions within Africa, but that many predicted deleterious mutations have evolved as if they were neutral during the expansion out of Africa. Under a model where selection is inversely related to dominance, we show that OOA populations are likely to have a higher mutation load due to increased allele frequencies of nearly neutral variants that are recessive or partially recessive.
http://www.pnas.org/content/113/4/E440.abstract
We’re the genetically fittest race, deal with it you lame mutants.
ian smith said:
as hymie has alluded to…
the japanese, koreans, taiwanese, hong kong -ese, and singaporeans DO score higher on some IQ tests than most european nationalities. maybe all. i don’t remember.
but…
the asians (ne, se, and s) in the US and canada are NOT a random sample of asians. they are the “motherfuckers” from asia.
of course this wasn’t always true.
the asians who settled hawaii or built the trans-continental railroad were poor people in their native countries. that’s why they moved.
if one were really intent on proving east asian supremacy HAWAII is a YUGE counter-example. isn’t it?
the truth is more likely that ne asians as a whole and on average are superior intellectually in some ways and inferior in others such that, on balance, they’re equal to western europeans in a purely intellectually sense.
the extreme high end of VIQ seems to be a monopoly of europeans. this statement i base on literature ancient and contemporary. but, of course, i read this literature in translation.
professor shoe conspicuously ignores the question of why western europe developed faster than ne asia.
The Philosopher said:
Master despises viq. Loves aspergers.
Now the interesting one is scoal intelligence. Seeing sarcasm, flattery etc. That nothing to do with viq. The highest levels of that are not necessarily psychopaths. You can see an opening without abusing it. Sth blacks and jews cant help to violent results.
If you cabt measure it does it exist?. Wittgenstein/russel say that is true. Which is to say a ‘rational’ sentence. Except it isnt true. And micro rational. Macro rationality requires agnosticism. There is no blacl swans until there is. But that is not quite rational either…..
Thats a very difficult epistemology issue above.
pumpkinperson said:
Master despises viq. Loves aspergers.
You realize a major difference between aspergers & classical high functioning autism is that the former often have relatively high verbal IQ & rich fantasy life to the point that aspergers was sometimes described as a Jewish disorder
Of course aspergers is no longer officially recognized as a disorder
The Philosopher said:
Pergies is the condition of a distinct lack of imagination. What the hell are you talking about?
Ask bruno.
pumpkinperson said:
Autistics lack imagination but aspergers is a divergent variant of autism where imagination & verbal IQ can be quite high, although they tend to use language in eccentric ways & struggle with metaphors, sarcasm & exaggeration
JS said:
Western Europe developed faster than bambooville, simply because slants come from low trust societies and their hyper-materialism/greed consume any rationalism for civic engagement or civic duty. Or perhaps their lower levels of creativity/testosterone is the cause and effect.
It’s quite scary that there is a high IQ region in the world which eclipses Anglo Prole greed and inequality and that’s slantytown.
Japan is the only Asian nation that Westernized. The Japanese are the least materialistic of the slants, despite being great purveyors of high end goods. All others are just petty kingdoms of wealth and consumption, worse than those governed by the grease kings of Arabia or the globalists of the Anglo Prole Sphere.
ian smith said:
the european/ashkenazi VIQ vs the ne asian PIQ…
this is hard to “get”.
to “get” it you have to combine professor shoe’s and pill’s worldview. neither is sufficient by itself.
that is…
1. professor shoe is right that VIQ is basically useless. and that high VIQ people exploit.
2. pill is right that those with high VIQ do in fact understand things that those with lower VIQ don’t and can’t.
whatever…
high VIQ is NOT just bullshit. sometimes it is.
but usually it’s NOT.
JS said:
I think White Americans have a higher VIQ than other Whites, which can be linked to anti-social behavior. The same principle applies to Ashkenazim. In essence, White Americans act like immature proles, when comparing to Canadians, especially French Canadians, who have a higher SIQ (Spatial IQ), because their output is more aesthetic pleasing than Anglophone Canadians and especially Americans.
Why is Anglo Prole land an ugly sh*hole? Also, Anglo Proles are poor designers of media and art in general. Same with Jews, but worse.
The Philosopher said:
I notice my memory and instant xomputation is fading. I was trying to do a cap gains return in my head talking to someone and the gears were grinding. Hopefully pumpkin is wrong about schiz putting the brain into kamikaze mode a la niethsche.
Nietsche contrary to rumour didnt die of an std but early onset dementia.
I keep mixing up names. My head feels fogged.
The only plus is that the obsessions are fading as well.
You see for humans forgetting is a survival trait . There is litlle value in remembering some things . Or knowing. And so another epistemology problem – is truth meant to be obsured for survival?
Disinterwatuion……
The Philosopher said:
Viq is propositional logic.
Quant is predicate.
You need either for certain tasks. Obv math nerds with no viq say life can be solved with computers (hint – their lives are more losery) and your enlish lit guy will talk bullshit.
But i am convinced very hi viq is needed to see that morality and zions morality are illusions.
pumpkinperson said:
Mug of Pee has high verbal IQ & he’s far more of a moral absolutist than I am. I’m a compassionate person but i don’t have any well developed moral philosophy
The Philosopher said:
Why of course you dont. Thats why you sound ridiculous.
The Philosopher said:
You and deal take the wooden dildo on most ridiculous morality. Atleast afro and melo do it for their bank account. Although melo probably drops the high fiving robanda and singing black baptist music (ahyessuah!!l back in the filipines.
meLo said:
“Although melo probably drops the high fiving robanda and singing black baptist music (ahyessuah!!l back in the filipines.”
…I’m sorry I don’t know what that sentence says.
GondwanaMan said:
LOLWUT???
pill is an autistic chinaman. sad! said:
Viq is propositional logic.
Quant is predicate.
only a chinaman could believe such simplistic rot.
The Philosopher said:
The weird thing is that i see what trump is doing but cant do that stuff myself. Im like an art critic vis van gogh. The association. ‘Leading’ . Sales confirmation bias. Trump never studied this like adams. He just instinctively knows. And we analyse after. Adams called the primary and election very early despite the jew media pretending immigrant bashing was a bote killer.
pumpkinperson said:
If trump were smarter he would give interviews to alternative media like some of the alt-right people on youtube. He did do alex jones but he’s useless
Bypass the MSM & empower the Internet talking heads
The Philosopher said:
Trimp is doing a great job. Right now the potus is daily calling the mass media fake news. If zion loses the mind control rays thats it. They have no standing army beyond sjws like deal.
City Slicker said:
You must not be an American.
Middle America, dominated by White evangelicals, worship Israel and the organized Jewry.
They identify with the Ashkenazis’ policies in Israel against swarthier Arabs per their Ethnic Genetic Interests.
Trump made a huge mistake in selecting Pence. The Neocons have less of a reason not to impeach Trump as one of their drones will succeed him.
pumpkinperson said:
They identify with the Ashkenazis’ policies in Israel against swarthier Arabs per their Ethnic Genetic Interests
That might be partly true but it’s not the whole story. For starters, what evangelicals believe depends a lot on which evangelical preachers are given a platform
JS said:
I think Meriprolish gentiles are just as stupid and delusional as their Ashkenazi counterparts. They often sway between love and hate of their enemies. They are not determinists, just bi-polar nutbags.
The Philosopher said:
Pumpkin said it best: Mammy tell me who to love today.
pill is an autistic chinaman. sad! said:
everything pill has said has led me to believe…
pill is a chinese australian.
The Philosopher said:
Thats an upgrade from mossad anyway.
Mental and Other Phenomena said:
here is some great music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnaF4_LTovk
music of all kinds should be illegal. said:
“great” music?
what ‘re you retarded?
all music sucks.
it should be illegal.
GondwanaMan said:
First video games now music. What’s left, Being and Time and gin 24/7???
illuminaticatblog said:
my VIQ is 132
my PIQ is 121
I have Aphantasia.
Because I have no inner mental life I feel very sad.
I rely on my emotions to keep me sain.
GondwanaMan said:
Not gonna lie, sometimes you sound pathetic.
Bruno from Paris said:
Illuminaticat,
Congrats for being clever. Some girls love winy blond guy …
As for having no internal images access, that doesn’t deprive anyone from having a mental life. Moreover, images are somewhere. Or esle you would’nt be able to recognize anything. You couldn’t read nor type a word. Plus image, emotion and mental life are three concepts with very different scopes. Even people without any internal senses (no image, no sound, not even an inner voice, no … ) can have very rich mental life.
Btw, maybe you’re aphantasia boosted your verbal IQ. When you can’t rely on conscious access of images to think, you have to code all your perceptions in a symbolic language (for example to be able to know the way to a place or the number of window in your house) , and that’s a big booster. That is also a big booster to understand images because you have to undertstand them on the sport. You have to be able to abstractly perform geometrical operations on the image while seeing it (when you close the luggage, you don’t see anything, but you know stuff), and 3D geometry problems that are very difficult for the many, aren’t as much for you. I guess this condition is a 1 SD IQ deviation booster .
Bruno from Paris said:
Francis Galton founded that 1 in 200 public school students had it and it was 1 in 6 among british science society people (and the academics didn’t say they lost the capacity with age or accident. It is easy to know if you have it since ever, by considering if reading a book has ever been associated with your mind creating (animated) images from the word you read. If not, the condition has always been there.
PS : I discovered that Scott Adams acquired dystonia, he wasn’t able to speak to any one any more, even if he was able to read aloud and speak to himself, and a surgical operation restored his ability. So maybe one day, the pb will be fixed.
Bruno from Paris said:
The Philosopher said: Pergies is the condition of a distinct lack of imagination. What the hell are you talking about? Ask bruno.
pumpkinperson said: Autistics lack imagination but aspergers is a divergent variant of autism where imagination & verbal IQ can be quite high, although they tend to use language in eccentric ways & struggle with metaphors, sarcasm & exaggeration
–> You’re both right but in the different acception of imagination as using your mind for “forming images” versus “being creative “.
Amusing that it is Philosopher uses the word in its litteral acception. I think it’s because it’s a bit paradoxical and it attracts Phil attention.
Then, I believe that 25% of Non-imagers are Aspergers, but I don’t know how many Aspergers are Non-imagers. But many tests to identify Aspergers have the difficulty to form mental images and the extra-ordinary to analyse perceived images as a factor. So I believe those two conditions are distant cousin with a still to be discovered “link”.
illuminaticatblog said:
Autistic people generally have little emotion. Social they way you notice an autistic person is if they just stare at you with a blank face. It is not that they cannot understand you if you are frank, it is that they are expressionless and often confused by why people act the way they do. What they are is socially uncreative because they do not know how social relationships work. That means they cannot predict how their behavior will affect other people.
Philosopher has some unrealistic assumptions about people with Aphantasia. I do not need to see in images in my head how social interactions will play out. I can just know the personality of a person and then interact with them naturally. I have no problem understanding people. I am just unable to see in images what will happen if I do interact with someone. Unlike a person who is autistic, I understand what is and is not socially appropriate. I know people well enough that I can know what will happen if I go to someone and socialize with them. Philosopher thinks you need to see in vivid images to what will happen if you socialize with people in a certain way. He is being to concrete is this regard. If you take the word imagination metaphorically and not literally like philosopher does, then I am not autistic because I can imagine how social interactions will play out. I do not need to see what will happen, I just know what will happen, at least as well as anyone else who is average in social skills. So I am not uncreative in that way (socially) as to what philosopher keeps saying about autistic people being uncreative. I can imagine social interactions just fine.
Bruno from Paris said:
IlluminatiCat, your mixing up Asperger and Autism while thinking Philo mixes Aphantasia and Asperger.
Asperger and High functional autism are quite different : I’ve spoken with Aspies in different forum. Even if most asperger stares at people, they are able to interpret other people’s feelings (by looking at the eyes) and have only mild prosopagnosia. It’s only they are not very interested nor able to build long term relationships with people. They have more emotions than feelings. They are not even shy because they are focus on their own interest and able to share it with anybody, even with people who are not interested or bored by what they have to say (and they don’t notice), a bit like savant but being not that ridiculous neither specialized. I would say that Asperger is a very special and weird/exotic form of high functional autism.
Aphantasia is less well know and looks extraordinary to people. Most people with Aphantasia (I would say 75%) don’t have Asperger nor are on any autism spectrum. They are very good at recognizing faces even without internal image. And they are evenly divided among people without almost no internal monologue at all and people with only their internal monologue.
I read that people with Asperger had an average IQ around 115/120. I would say it is even a bit higher with Aphantasiac people. I absolutely don’t know why but interactions with some of them made me thing they were around 120/125, more or less like people in Pumpkin community; It’s only my opinion, and Yes, i remember thinking Bill O’Reilly is clever is not a good clue for my ability to spot clever people 🙂 .
Mike from wichita said:
“Of course many people think Jones is a wacko, especially after he suggested that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was hoax, ”
There is a very good case that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was in fact a hoax. Just consider the reality that the school was not even be used other than as a sort of warehouse.
Aden said:
Would a podcast on YouTube be considered an “elite” media outlet, given how hard it is to make a living on the platform?
Ganzir said:
“In addition Jones claims he can speed read and disbelieved in Santa at only age 2.5”
I refused to believe in Santa as a toddler too, come to think of it
pumpkinperson said:
I guess he’s making up for his lost childhood now.