[Note from PP, April 8, 2017: The views expressed in this guest post do not necessarily reflect the views of Pumpkin Person. Out of respect for the author, please try to keep all comments on topic. I understand conversations naturally evolve, but all comments should at least start on-topic. UPDATE April 9, 2017: after consulting with the author, a few minor edits were made]


Source: Wikimedia Commons and http://lingvo.info/en/babylon/language_families
I’m introducing you to this map of language families to show you how complex it is to classify human populations. Of course, language is not really genetic in the sense that we don’t need a specific genotype to speak a specific language. Nevertheless, many language families are closely related to mtDNA and Y chromosome haplogroups and reflect prehistoric migrations.
As you can see from the complexity of language families and population genetics as a whole, there is no such thing as humans branching off a main route. Instead, we should picture a gas, spreading across planet earth, with particles randomly moving back and forth then blending with other currents. As a result, no population can be defined by genetic markers or traits that are both exclusive and universally shared by its members and geographical proximity is the strongest correlate of genetic similarity between two populations. Any cluster, cline or “race” is chosen arbitrary, without a threshold of genetic dissimilarity that justifies separation.
Although language is not purely genetic, this very human ability shows an actual instance of Human BioDiversity that no HBDer ever touched to my knowledge: the genetically-driven inclination to tonal or non-tonal languages. From Wikipedia:
A new allele (version) of ASPM appeared sometime between 14,100 and 500 years ago with a mean estimate of 5,800 years ago. The new allele has a frequency of about 50% in populations of the Middle East and Europe, it is less frequent in East Asia, and has low frequencies among Sub-Saharan African populations.[10] It is also found with an unusually high percentage among the people of Papua New Guinea, with a 59.4% occurrence.[11]
The mean estimated age of the ASPM allele of 5,800 years ago, roughly correlates with the development of written language, spread of agriculture and development of cities.[12] Currently, two alleles of this gene exist: the older (pre-5,800 years ago) and the newer (post-5,800 years ago). About 10% of humans have two copies of the new ASPM allele, while about 50% have two copies of the old allele. The other 40% of humans have one copy of each. Of those with an instance of the new allele, 50% of them are an identical copy.[13] The allele affects genotype over a large (62 kbp) region, a so called selective sweep which signals a rapid spread of a mutation (such as the new ASPM) through the population; this indicates that the mutation is somehow advantageous to the individual.[11][14]
Testing the IQ of those with and without new ASPM allele has shown no difference in average IQ, providing no evidence to support the notion that the gene increases intelligence.[14][15][16] However statistical analysis has shown that the older forms of the gene are found more heavily in populations that speak tonal languages like Chinese or many Sub-Saharan African languages.[17]
So we have this genetic tendency for tonal languages that varies across populations, but once again, it’s not race. We don’t need a specific genotype to learn a tonal or a non-tonal language, it just happens that a high frequency of an allele in a population will lead to keeping or losing tone in a language. Moreover, many language families are multiracial and most races are divided in many language families, some of them being racially overlapping.
Looking back to the loss of tonal language and the emergence of writing and agriculture and then civilization, I had a realization: tonal languages are extremely difficult to write because they have too many homophones, see that famous Chinese story below:
“石室詩士施氏,嗜獅,誓食十獅。施氏時時適市視獅。十時,適十獅適市。是時,適施氏適市。氏視是十獅,恃矢勢,使是十獅逝世。氏拾是十獅屍,適石室。石室濕,氏使侍拭石室。石室拭,氏始試食是十獅。食時,始識是十獅,實十石獅屍。試釋是事。”
Spoken:
“Shí Shì Shī Shì Shī Shì, Shì Shī, Shì Shí Shí Shī.Shì Shí Shí Shì Shì Shì Shī. Shí Shí, Shì Shí Shī Shì Shì. Shì Shí, Shì Shī Shì Shì Shì. Shì Shì Shì Shí Shī, Shì Shǐ Shì, Shǐ Shì Shí Shī Shì Shì. Shì Shí Shì Shí Shī Shī, Shì Shí Shì. Shí Shì Shī, Shì Shǐ Shì Shì Shí Shì. Shí Shì Shì, Shì Shǐ Shì Shí Shì Shí Shī. Shí Shí, Shǐ Shí Shì Shí Shī, Shí Shí Shí Shī Shī. Shì Shì Shì Shì.”
In English
“There was a poet named Mr.Shi who lives in a stone den. He liked to eat lions, and vowed to eat ten lions. Therefore Mr. Shi would usually visit the market to look for lions. At 10 o’clock exactly ten lions just arrived at the market. At that very moment, Mr.Shi shot a few arrows from his bow and killed those ten lions. Mr. Shi then brought the ten dead lions back to his stone den. Because the den might be too wet to store the lions. So he ordered his servant to clean and dry the den. After the den was cleaned, Mr.Shi started to try to eat those ten lions. However, only until he was eating the lions he found out that those ten dead lions were actually ten stone lions. Would you try to explain what was happening?”
Reading this, you understand why the Chinese scripts are so complex and non-phonetic, you also understand why the Chinese are not too fond of romanizations like the Pinyin script. You also understand why It took so long and such a huge population to develop this script that is still evolving and why the populations under Chinese influence developed phonetic scripts when they spoke non-tonal languages like Korean and Japanese.
The Chinese script has probably handicapped China’s technological development since it is highly inconvenient in printing, similarly to Arabic or South Asian languages. Sub-Saharan Africa is also an area of tonal languages and it’s only ancient indigenous writing system, the Nsibidi, looks like early Chinese scripts. Non-tonal speakers in Africa quickly adopted and modified West-Asian scripts however, Muslim West Africans developed Ajamis from Arabic and Ethiopians created the Ge’ez from ancient South-Arabic scripts.
Due to the difficulties associated with writing tonal languages, it makes sense that losing them was an advantage in developing writing systems, the mothers of all subsequent technological and cultural innovations.
Anyway, back to our world map of language families, the intent of this piece was to show that whatever the variable we consider (language being the closest to mental traits that could impact a population’s intelligence, namely verbal IQ) it is impossible to strictly divide mankind into races in the way we divide dogs and cats in breeds.
Last but not least: I hope this very factual post with clearly announced speculations will sound like a lesson of HBD to some people.
the point is…
1. don’t fuck with italians!
2. don’t fuck with japs!
jimmy’s and peepee’s hero is…




my hero is…
and…
not to mention…
Not my hero at all. I hate thugs, but I love the fact that John Gotti had a high IQ (for a criminal) for reasons I explained here:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2015/04/29/smart-people-get-to-the-top-naturally/
people ranked by thug-ish-ness:
65. oprah
153. al capone
sad!
who is #1?
it’s obvious!
captain kangaroo
he beat out shari lewis and stalin by a hair’s breadth.
so fucking sad!
just plain sad!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggiMnDEbjbc
“Smart people get to the top naturally”
What’s unnatural about “crime” ? Thinking of outsmarting the system and take by force what you’re not given by society is a smart reaction. Especially when you think that intelligence is the ability to adapt and turn things to your advantage.
Don’t tell me about prison because prison is part of the job. Thugs know that the advantages of brought by their activities (respect, material things, statute…) are worth the time they spend in jail.
What’s unnatural about “crime” ?
Nothing. That was the point of the article. Smart people even get ahead in fields like the mafia that don’t require the artificial credentials that mainstream society esteems.
Thinking of outsmarting the system and take by force what you’re not given by society is a smart reaction. Especially when you think that intelligence is the ability to adapt and turn things to your advantage.
It’s to your advantage if you don’t feel guilty or worried about it. Moral/paranoid people have a harder situation to adapt to, and thus require even more IQ to get rich and powerful.
I’m not saying all crimes or criminals are immoral, but many are.
Hum, ok, but you know, there are many legal businesses of questionable morality. Look at Jimmy’s gambling, or me the lawyer, or the making of an Iphone… You’re playing with very subjective notions.
I’m not trying to single out criminals, my larger point is that ceteris paribus, it takes less IQ to get rich and powerful (legally or criminally) if one is sociopathic.
But you said you hate thugs. Do you hate lawyers, bankers, real estate brokers, industrialists, fast food owners… Actually, I wonder if there exists one morally irreproachable business. Maybe janitors are OK.
I thought you were a lawyer? You’re saying you’re just as immoral as a mobster?
I’m a lawyer and I know it requires a lot of dishonest wordplay, which is immoral. It’s not as immoral as stealing, killing, drug dealing or anything illegal but it is still morally questionable. A janitor doing his job right doesn’t have the concerns of thinking he is writing a contract in order to fool another person.
And I’m just a business lawyer, imagine how it feels to win a trial for a child molester…
To be honest, I don’t have that many moral concerns when I know I write a contract that unjustly favors my clients. It’s always companies taking advantage of other companies, and by extension rich people taking advantage of other rich people. And I know business legislation is what saves business competition from turning into gang warfare.
I’d be bothered if I had responsibility in a company’s failure that would cause employees to be laid off or destroying a deserving self made man’s efforts of a whole life. But nothing like that happens, in France at least.
plenty of morally irreproachable jobs.
producing or distributing things people need.
if one is engaged in producing or distributing things people merely want it may be moral or immoral. it depends.
but advertising should be heavily regulated. it isn’t.
one simple regulation would be to require every business to list the fraction of the price of its whatever is attributable to selling costs. there’d be riots.
What are your thoughts on monopolies Mug of Pee? That’s one subject LOTB is quite good on, though I think he takes it too far when he says stuff like Katie Perry has a monopoly on being Katie Perry or whatever example he used.
harvard admissions are much more competitive than they were when the study you gave no citation for was made than they are today.
at the time of the study the mean harvard sat was likely only the 99th percentile. so if for the population as a whole that’s the 99.5th percentile the WAIS and SAT scores estimated correlation is .72.
but as i say. the SAT scores of the students weren’t known. there is no reason to suppose they were a random sample. the correlation with the FSIQ may have been higher (or lower). and SLDR predicts that the correlation for the entire population is significantly greater than it is for the brightest.
so the harvard data is, as usual, totally consistent with a .8+ correlation between SAT and WAIS FSIQ.
when my dad applied harvard took 20%. when the study was done it may have been 10%. today it’s 5%.
i agree with jimmy and disagree with mensa. my assumption that 99th percentile on the SAT is 99.5th percentile for the population as a whole may be generous. SAT takers are a select population, but how exactly they are select is unknown. mensa has to use assumptions. far too generous assumptions imo.
harvard admissions are much more competitive than they were when the study you gave no citation for was made than they are today.
You’re so stupid Mug of Pee. Even by 1960 the SAT scores of Harvard students were at least +3 SD from the national mean (see page 712 of The Bell Curve by Herrnstein and Murray). If it got more competitive since then, then the students in the 2003 study I cited were even more selected than I implied. And yet they still scored “only” +1.44 SD on the abbreviated Wechsler after deducting points for old norms. Assuming these students were cognitively representative of Harvard and of all American young adults who did (or could have) scored +3 SD on the SAT, a bivariate normal distribution, and no ceiling bumping or SLODR, this implies a 0.48 correlation between the SAT and the abbreviated WAIS in the general U.S. population (1.44/3 = 0.48)
but as i say. the SAT scores of the students weren’t known. there is no reason to suppose they were a random sample. the correlation with the FSIQ may have been higher (or lower).
There’s also no reason to assume they were dumber than the average Harvard student. They were recruited from signup sheets placed around campus, and high IQ students are more likely to volunteer for an IQ study. Furthermore, I replicated my results in a study at Dartmouth in which the SAT scores were known and virtually the entire WAIS was given.
and SLDR predicts that the correlation for the entire population is significantly greater than it is for the brightest.
Well regardless of whether it’s caused SLODR or just a generally mediocre correlation, the tentative conclusion is the same: The SAT is not that good at identifying highly intelligent people. Though more research is needed.
government has a duty to force commoditization, because…
1. businesses hate competition. they try to avoid it whenever possible.
2. consumers never have as much information as producers. rip-offs only go in one direction.
3. the advantages of a market economy are limited when competition is limited and when information is asymmetric.
just another contradiction of unregulated capitalism which must be resolved in order to maximize economic efficiency. GOP-tards confuse what business wants with what’s good for the economy. sometimes what business wants is bad for the economy.
commoditization – differentiation which has no use value is discouraged, a minimum standard is required, and its price must be listed.
plus there’s the question of ceiling bumping.
peepee’s raven’s SAT scatter plot has a ceiling of 134.
what’s the ceiling on the abbreviated WAIS?
peepee is correct that the average of y values divided by the average of x values approaches the correlation coefficient as the number of data points increases, but frey and detterman are right that the correlation will be attenuated for restricted data.
peepee doesn’t actually have the f&d data. she guessed. but it may be the data is contradictory. which is another way of saying that at the high end a bivariate normal distribution is a bad model. the RPM vs SAT data was restricted in two ways. SAT takers are select, the RPM’s ceiling was 134. how exactly the SAT takers are select makes a huge difference in how the restriction of range is accounted for.
but in general looking just at the high end is going to underestimate the full population correlation. that is, even when restriction of range is accounted for. this is SLDR.
what’s the ceiling on the abbreviated WAIS?
The Vocab and Blocks used in the abbreviated WAIS-R both have a ceiling of 145 so the combined score has a ceiling of 152 iirc, but because the norms were a quarter century old, the ceiling is reduced to about 146. Of course it could be that Harvard has a lot of Jewish, female and black students who underperform on blocks relative to their g, and at high levels, Blocks becomes too dependent on motor speed to be a good measure of intelligence imo. This may have weakened the study.
peepee doesn’t actually have the f&d data. she guessed. but it may be the data is contradictory. which is another way of saying that at the high end a bivariate normal distribution is a bad model. the RPM vs SAT data was restricted in two ways. SAT takers are select, the RPM’s ceiling was 134. how exactly the SAT takers are select makes a huge difference in how the restriction of range is accounted for.
The ceiling bumping on the Raven was not a significant factor because I looked at the MEDIAN Raven score of high SAT people, not the mean, which would have been lowered by those who could have scored higher had the test been harder.
but in general looking just at the high end is going to underestimate the full population correlation. that is, even when restriction of range is accounted for. this is SLDR.
Range restriction is not relevant to my regression slope analysis because I assumed the high SAT part of the sample was cognitively representative of all Americans who did (or could have) scored high on the SAT, and thus the degree to which they regress to the general population mean reflects the regression slope if ALL AMERICAN YOUNG ADULTS took the SAT, not just the sample in the study. I’m very concerned that you don’t have the cognitive ability to grasp this subtle point.
seriously!
if you ever learn anything…
learn this!
it’s NOT a joke!
why do you think they conquered the “known world”?
seriously!
these guys are the real shit!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_functions
I hate thugs.
i know you’re a lipstick lesbian peepee.
but why do you hate penises?
you should watch more gay porn!
my beautiful perfect penis awaits peepee.
all you need to do is sit on it.
enjoy it.
superior and inferior.
sad!
scientists have told us that the poodle’s cerebral cavity is more capacious than in other dogs…and that the frontal sinuses are fully developed…etc.
would be so FUCKING awesome if france did IT…
AGAIN!
http://md1.libe.com/photo/1011475-meeting-jean-luc-melenchon-a-marseille.jpg?modified_at=1491763823&width=960
THEN…
the frogs would prove themselves the betters of the lobsters.
rather than their butt boys.
peepee is a scared little nigger girl.
sad!
do it france!
prove that you’re the center of civilization…not just a bunch of fags like afro.
do it!
you’ve done it before.
do it again!
http://md1.libe.com/photo/1011475-meeting-jean-luc-melenchon-a-marseille.jpg?modified_at=1491763823&width=960
giving an emloyee 500k to “play with” is extremely un-impressive. for the prop desks of i-banks and hedge funds like citadel this is nothing.
but making lots at such places is both easy and impossible.
that is, some will make a lot. some will lose everything…
by chance.
and the i-bank and hedge funds like citadel will provide three things:
1. leverage. cheap leverage.
2. information. to the second.
3. almost zero “friction”…no transaction costs.
they know they have these edges. that’s why they play them. but any who do well year after year after year…
if they aren’t billionaires, they’re LYING.
because the best QUIT and attract money like honey…so to say.
they do it again even if just for one more year…
billions!
100m would be impressive.
i’m being drunk and faggy.
this should work.
This guy is the shit, I mean really. The GOAT. He’s a Bernie Sanders made in France. 💯
i’ve read the Guide to the Perplexed, and…
you don’t need to be a catholic.
i’m not. not really.
thomas aquinas is at least a contender.
who are the other contenders?
aristotle? plato? they had the advantage of living in the one non shit hole on the planet.
idk.
of people who have an historical record….
thomas aquinas is the smartest human being who has ever lived.
it’s not even close.
look into it.
you’ll see.
this is the DUDE peepee and all her high-Q retards should worship…
the highest IQ EVER…
Aquinas is a turgid read. However, he makes some very good points is clearly distinguishable from the scholastic ‘philosophers’ of his age.
I notice pre Guetenberg writers have a tendency for excessive repetition. My hunch is that prior to books, repetition of points in the class or the priory as it were, was a handy way of remembering things.
Aquinas thus writes as he would to his students at the seminary.
I’ve made the observation before that religion was necessary to give intellectuals as chance to specialise without having to fight or engage in cuthroat politics. So its an exquisite irony that preaching nonsense for the most part, is needed to make advances in non-nonsense.
Notice the creation of universities, schools and scholarship has a deeply religious overtone in all cultures and civilisations – even the East Asian ones.
Notice the way Denmark made a sleight of hand by associating the dark ages with Christianity as opposed to the Vandals, Goths, Mongols, Huns and Vikings as well……
trump is sure to lose…no chance…
then…
the cubs win the world series.
wtf does that have to do with the election?
the answer is…
more than nothing.
wtf do you mean?
nothing. i mean nothing.
except…
france…
1789-1799.
or france is just a little girl. a little girl who wants to crawl back into her mother’s womb.
sad!
let’s do it france!
let’s do it!
of all countries…
france has a chance to prove it’s not just a bunch of black faggots.
will it?
there’s also always monk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4X5folutT8
sad!
Pumpkin, i’ve thrown it just after i took the pic and btw i guess the pb lies with my old 2011 iphone. Business case interview are really “g” loaded because you ask a person to solve a real problem your team had and you can see the person thinking process. Questions could be like how would you organize two big firms merging in terms of IT ? Then you see the person thinking process and you can work out logic in details.
If you ask what are all possibilities of merging : the person has to find you could go from A to B (and conversely) or to C wich could be either entirely new or a compound of A and B. Even if this person don’t know anything about IT, it’s pure logic.
Then for example, if you ask this person how you go there, she has to identifie, that there is 2 possibilities : merging in 1 shot or progressively. You’ll ask her what are the pros and cos. She has to find that criteria are speed/cost and risk. And you ask her how they correlate : there are inversely correlated. The 1 shot fusion being quicker to do and less expensive but much more risky.
And on and on. They are so many business subjects that entails logical thinking that this form of test allow you to rank up to the 1/100 among the best graduates people. Generally, Mckinsey is happy with people in the top 15% level wich is not accessible to people who are under 130 (they are some recruitment of CEO or Influent people kids, but they don’t pass the manager level, that is to say 5 years at the firm, and they are extremely rare – nepotism is less than 2% of recruitment).
a
And then, some interviews are not related to business and can be pure logical puzzel or, something you like to do guesstimates : for exampe, you could ask someone how many people die each day in the USA ? or how many bikes they are in New York ? And then link the question to a business problem, for example to adivze the mayor of NY in creating a system for sharing bike in NY (size, cost, architecture etc. )
You see the kind of stuff.
what a hoser.
After midnight on Thursday, 25 September, Bonham fell asleep; someone took him to bed and placed him on his side. Benji LeFevre, Led Zeppelin’s tour manager, and John Paul Jones found him unresponsive the next afternoon.[15] Bonham was later pronounced dead at 32 years old.
The inquest on 27 October 1980 showed that in 24 hours, Bonham had consumed around 40 shots (1–1.4 litres) of 40% ABV vodka, after which he vomited and choked. The finding was accidental death.[15] An autopsy found no other drugs in Bonham’s body.[16] Bonham’s remains were cremated and his ashes interred on 12 October 1980, at Rushock parish church, Worcestershire.
greatest drummer ever? no!
loony moon had a posh accent. odd!
jimmy’s tiny penis.
sad!
Jimmy is not a foreignor. His syntax is definitely American as is his affectations. You can meet people with this personality type in any Mayfair nightclub.
What I would say is that Jimmy is a very unique individual in the sense that there is definitely a schiz type thinking to him even though his job usually requires structured lego set logic.
That’s why he was able to interperet the pattern problem as a math problem I imagine by thinking outside the box. Although, the specifics of that algebraic theory allude me.
I would guess Jimmy may have played a musical instrument to an adequate standard, or at least tried to.
Or was a good drawer or doodler in school growing up.
One of the interesting things about psychiatry is that it is not a tick box exercise that can be standardised. One must observe the depth of the condition and its progression, race/culture, co-morbity of other physical and mental conditions and personality of the subject and then designing a recovery plan.
Its not something that can be easily systemised beyond heuristics.
And recoveries take willpower. A good psychiatrist should become a coach when the patient evades the ides of psychosis or depression.
A good psychiatrist must be socially intelligent. I just don’t understand how a person who cannot tell sarcasm or understand women could practice psychaitry. It is faintly ridiculous even.
My own experiences would indicate most psychiatrists are not ‘singing from the same hymn sheet’. Many have strong doubts about the DSM IV.
For example homosexuality was a mental illness.
A good definition is of mentall illness is a conditon whereby the subject suffers more than average pain/discomfort or is rendered unable to perform social obligations and duties.
Homsexuality is interesting because it only breaches the latter and not the former.
On a macro level, homosexuality is indeed a menal illness. Like 3rd wave feminism. Or open borders.
On a micro level it is not. Notice the way in physics and economics they similarily cannot conjoin the micro with the macro. This is because entropy makes agglomerations more affected by general phenomena.
In the same way, one can only solve some medical, engineering or economic issues at the macro level and some only at a micro level.
I believe some financial advisors are actually doing good work. The problem is the macro level of incentives. Commissions kill altriusm. The best investment is to pay off debt almost always.
The hard barrier is ‘fitness’. Does having a multiple personality render you unable to survive. Surprisingly not. In fact manic depression or OCD is worse for survivability.
The mind under intense stress endures pyschosis as a way of not of ‘cracking’ but diffusing pressure on the ego. This is a key insight no psychiatrist may have made. That is why psychotics become catatonic, schizoaffective, ‘mad’. It is the mind relieving pressure rather than make a stand against reality.
The trick is to soften the minds perception of the pressure and of course, remove the pressure. The former is the aim of medications. The latter involves social intelligence.
Some of these conditions are genetic – e.g. alcholism.
I’ve also come across the remarkable aspect that an addiction can generate enough dopamine to thrust off impending neurosis. If you told schizophrenics to stop smoking, doing drugs or ***king….I would bet my right hand psychosis rates would shoot up.
I am schizoaffective.
I am very lonely and can’t solve my problems.
I try not to be board all the time.
The vitamin store nearby is closing.
I got a discount.
Magnesium
B-complex
Trace minerals
Omega-3
$65
Pumpkin Person,
I was looking at protein and fat consumption and found something odd about India:
Fat consumption is 28 g a day vs Germany’s 87 g a day and Belgium’s 95 g a day.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/05/where-people-around-the-world-eat-the-most-sugar-and-fat/?utm_term=.d085fe6da3ef
German protein consumption is also about 100 g per day vs India’s 55 g per day.
Is this possibly why India’s IQ is so low?
However, it is also known that Hong Kong protein and fat consumption are very low …. maybe there isn’t a correlation between these parameters and more to do with individual vitamins and amino acids and the type of food being digested. Most protein rich foods are from meat in China whereas Indians get their protein from rice and grains, which are very poorly digested.
“Is this possibly why India’s IQ is so low?”
[jealousy redacted by PP, April 11, 2017]
Yes it is. Protein, b vitamins, iron, etc are all important vitamins and minerals for brain growth and if one is deficient in them then they will have lower intelligence, stunted growth, etc. This all, of course, is most important in the prenatal stages. But vitamin and mineral deficiencies are related to increased aggression as well as lower intelligence.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905637/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041117005027.htm
“However, it is also known that Hong Kong protein and fat consumption are very low”
Citation needed.
“Most protein rich foods are from meat in China whereas Indians get their protein from rice and grains, which are very poorly digested.”
Rice isn’t a complete protein.
Rice is missing lysine, which means it’s not a complete protein. You need to combine rice with a lysine-rich food, such as seeds, beans, eggs, and meat.
East Asians also eat a lot of meat, mainly seafood. Further, East Asians eat less sugar, consume less total glucose and consume a ratio of n3 to n6 lower than we do (our levels of n6 are 26 times higher than average, our hunter gatherer ancestors had closer to a 1 to 1 ratio. Furthermore, the glucose they do consume doesn’t have deleterious effects because of their n6 to n3 ratio. They also have lower rates of diabesity since they have an abundance of type 1 muscle fibers compared to type 2 which is related to diabesity.
A buddy and I hypothesize that seafood consumption may explain the East Asian/European IQ gap, but that’s too long to get in to here and it will be covered extensively in multiple parts of my blog.
Look to the declining diet quality in America, and you’ll see a cause for a lot of our woes.
One more thing:
Fat and protein consumption are related because high-protein food—for the most part—has high amounts of fat.
PP, how is saying that you don’t know anything about nutrition “jealousy”? I’ve schooled you on nutrition too many times to count.
Please show me where this ‘jealousy’ is, I’m curious.
PP, how is saying that you don’t know anything about nutrition “jealousy”? I’ve schooled you on nutrition too many times to count.
I admit you know more about nutrition that I do, but you haven’t really proved me wrong about anything yet. However if your NFL analysis is honestly and competently done, and shows that whites are stronger than blacks, I’ll concede that I was probably wrong about that.
Please show me where this ‘jealousy’ is, I’m curious.
To quote the Swiss woman who refused to show Oprah her purse, “I vont vant to vurt your veelings”
“but you haven’t really proved me wrong about anything yet”
Yes I did. I ran down the line of physiology, morphology, somatype and muscle fiber typing to make my point. I’ve substantially proven my case—physiologically.
Type IIa fibers possess more aerobic potential than IIx, therefore, power lifters have a higher proportion of IIa fibers compared to IIx fibers. It should also be noted that powerlifters have the same amount of type I fibers as the general population (Fry et al, 2003a), so knowing this fact, since blacks have a lower proportion of type I muscle fibers as noted in Caeser and Hunter (2015), this explains why there are very few black power lifters: they have the opposite type II fiber type while having less type I fiber.
Furthermore, Olympic lifters also use a higher percentage of type IIa fibers (Fry et al, 2003b). This also explains the lower amount of blacks in weight lifting as well. Fiber types don’t explain everything, but at elite levels, they do mean a lot and looking at the racial variation explains racial differences in elite sporting competition.
“However if your NFL analysis is honestly and competently done, and shows that whites are stronger than blacks, I’ll concede that I was probably wrong about that.”
The formulas I know to estimate 1RM only go are good up to 12 reps. These guys are repping 40+ reps at 225. It’s all endurance—not strength.
http://www.weightrainer.net/training/coefficients.html
I’m going to play around with some numbers and do a few tests on myself and some people I know to see if estimating 1RM with higher reps is possible.
If you have any ideas on how to circumvent this, please let me know.
“To quote the Swiss woman who refused to show Oprah her purse, “I vont vant to vurt your veelings””
I have thick skin. I can take ‘hurt feelings’ (you say this as if I’m a liberal and let words on a computer screen hurt me).
Please, tell me how you really feel.
Type IIa fibers possess more aerobic potential than IIx, therefore, power lifters have a higher proportion of IIa fibers compared to IIx fibers. It should also be noted that powerlifters have the same amount of type I fibers as the general population (Fry et al, 2003a), so knowing this fact, since blacks have a lower proportion of type I muscle fibers as noted in Caeser and Hunter (2015), this explains why there are very few black power lifters: they have the opposite type II fiber type while having less type I fiber.
Furthermore, Olympic lifters also use a higher percentage of type IIa fibers (Fry et al, 2003b). This also explains the lower amount of blacks in weight lifting as well. Fiber types don’t explain everything, but at elite levels, they do mean a lot and looking at the racial variation explains racial differences in elite sporting competition.
RR you don’t understand the difference between circumstantial evidence & proof.
The fact that whites rank higher on a physical correlate of strength is suggestive but not conclusive
It would be like me saying brain size is related to IQ; arctic people have the biggest brains, thus arctic people have the highest IQs. That would only be proof if the correlation were perfect
And you continue to minimize the testosterone advantage YOUNG black men have over young white men by citing a meta-analysis that lumps all ages together. Yes the meta-analysis controls for age, but that’s different from looking specifically at young men. The Ross study implies there might be an age X race interaction such that the gap is much larger in young men
“may explain the East Asian/European IQ gap ”
There is no doubt that east asians have a decent intelligence level but the numbers that many people give are laughable.
I have seen a Lynn paper that claims that Taiwan has a mean IQ of 113 !
Ive seen another Lynn paper that gives Hong Kong an IQ of 116 !
Lynn is clearly senile
No one believes that his studies are anywhere near representative except a mentally ill HBD cultist.
All of china has nowhere near the 105 IQ that Lynn gives for China . Anyone who believes that figure lacks basic common sense.
Whenever western psychologist travel they always go to places that their guides are willing to take them. Its extremely rare for anyone to go to rural areas or even less developed parts of cities.
They only go to the nice parts of China because that’s where their guides are willing to take them and we all know how nationalistic the Chinese are .
Its even worse for a country like India because no one but the most adventurous would ever go to the real India. If they did they would see people that are similar to the aboriginals of Australia.
A truly representative sample for China would show an IQ closer to 90.
For India it would be closer to 75 .
Obviously their genetic intelligence level is much higher than that. RR has mentioned the nutritional problems that they all have.
Shanghai may be 105 like london but there is no way in hell that the average for china is 105.
IQ studies are only reliable when they are done in small western nations like Belgium or The Netherlands.
And i haven’t even mentioned the IQ test prepping that happens in China, Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong , south korea , taiwan and even the US (jews)
“There is no doubt that east asians have a decent intelligence level but the numbers that many people give are laughable.”
103-5.
“I have seen a Lynn paper that claims that Taiwan has a mean IQ of 113 !”
Source? Lynn and Vanhanen say 104.
“Ive seen another Lynn paper that gives Hong Kong an IQ of 116 !”
Which is retarded because, correct me if I’m wrong, they’re genetically similar to the rest of China. China is something like 93 percent Han.
Lynn and Vanhanen say 107.
Click to access Intelligence%20and%20the%20Wealth%20and%20Poverty%20of%20Nations.pdf
“No one believes that his studies are anywhere near representative except a mentally ill HBD cultist.”
I agree with you. Young children, small n. Robust.
All of your claims need evidence.
Jimmy and Pumpkin,
That Racerealist person is extremely anti-black racist White supremacist person who will come up with every neonazi sources to demean blacks. I wouldn’t be surprised if this white-power chest thumping clown idolizes Richard Spencer, David Duke, Andrew Anglin. Look at the premise of his all his comments
1. Black people are inherently bad
2. Black people are low iQ and Irredeemable
3. Black run cities are hellhole
4. All claims of blacks are false
5. Black athletes are overrated
6. White people are stronger than black people
7. Black people are incapable of fending of themselves
8. Sneer at black people’s looks & come up with BS Science for it
9. Sneaks in racism through his articles made up of false pretense
and many more that are detrimental & demeaning about blacks. You get it. He starts off every argument with any of these preconceived notions and just hijacks the topic to anti-black fiat. Not one of the mongrels article showcased blacks in Positive light and he has me discussing science with him.
Taiwan
“Lynn and Vanhanen say 104. ”
Cant find the 113 one but here is a Lynn study showing 109.5 IQ for Taiwan
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-biosocial-science/article/intelligence-in-taiwan-progressive-matrices-means-and-sex-differences-in-means-and-variances-for-6-to-17yearolds/9A5685A42A5FDE2F87719246C1FEADF8
Hong Kong
“Lynn and Vanhanen say 107. ”
Lynn says 116
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2808473
Many people have no idea how ruthless it is in that part of the world. Parents would knife you just to get their kid into the right school.
HBD cultists don’t know that because they don’t travel and have no idea what the world looks like.
if there is an entire industry in the UK to prep middle class children for the 11+ IQ test for Grammar School entry then you better believe that asians kids are doing the same.
Asians are much more corrupt that people of european decent and so they have no problem with cheating .
Whites go for prepping while Asians prefer more direct measures.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/college-cheating-iowa/
I cant help but laugh at how gullible the HBD cultists are .
only someone who was severely autistic would ever believe that Hong Kong has a mean IQ of 116.
You couldn’t pay me to live in Hong Kong. It’s one of the most depressing places i have ever been to.
The worst country in western europe is a thousand times more livable than Hong Kong will ever be.
100% agree with Jason. I’ve pointing out Race Realist is the most outrageous racist possibly in the history of blogging. Wouldn’t be surprised if he is a member of the KKK.
I agree with Jimmy on many things but on this HBD east asian IQ issue he is patently wrong.
Also Asians are more corrupt, sure, but not that much more corrupt. The idea of SAT cheating is fairly weak sauce within the context of abiding by formal social hoop jumping by thinking academics is the solution to their life.
A jew would bribe or blackmail the acceptance officer for example.
This is linked to aspergers i.e. if you follow Rule X, you get outcome Y.
The sheer fact is the Caltech’s engineering or campus in general is asian dominated not because of cheating but because of ability. If they didn’t have ability they would avoid such topics or flunk out.
That being said, the lack of social and verbal intelligence and low testosterone holds them back. At least they’re not gamma males like indians and jews.
“That Racerealist person is extremely anti-black racist White supremacist person who will come up with every neonazi sources to demean black”
Citation needed.
” I wouldn’t be surprised if this white-power chest thumping clown idolizes Richard Spencer, David Duke, Andrew Anglin. ”
They are morons.
Why do you assume? You must not see me criticize white nationalists. That’s cool man, be selective.
” Black people are inherently bad”
Blacks are more likely to be “bad” (whatever that means).
“Black people are low iQ and Irredeemable”
I don’t think it is, but if it is redeemable then provided evidence.
“Black run cities are hellhole”
…. Are they not? Is crime not extremely high in areas that are majority black?
“All claims of blacks are false”
What? If you mean all claims about blacks having a leg up are false, no I don’t believe that.
“Black athletes are overrated”
I’ve never claimed this. If so, please provide me the source with me saying this.
“White people are stronger than black people”
Thanks for the laugh! One thing is not like the other. This is one of them. What’s my IQ since I figured out the pattern, PP?
“Black people are incapable of fending of themselves”
Can you go more in depth here? Look at majority black cities like Detroit and Chicago. Would you want to live there?
” Sneer at black people’s looks & come up with BS Science for it”
Some people are attracted to different things. Shocking, I know. I’m not attracted to blondes. I must be a blondist. Source for me coming up with a “BS science reason for it”? If you’re referring to higher testosterone in black women, I no longer believe that. But youd have to substantially read my blog to see how my views have changed in the past year. You haven’t though. I can tell.
“Sneaks in racism through his articles made up of false pretense”
Show me 3 of them. If it’s so rampant, as you claim, showing me three things that back your claim should be easy.
“and many more that are detrimental & demeaning about blacks. You get it. He starts off every argument with any of these preconceived notions and just hijacks the topic to anti-black fiat. Not one of the mongrels article showcased blacks in Positive light and he has me discussing science with him.”
Source? Not one shows blacks positively? Ha. Read my recent sports articles. You’re a joke. You make idiotic assertions and provide no arguments nor evidence.
If my analyses of blacks and whites in regards to strength are incorrect, physiologically speaking, then point out where then show me what the truth is. If not, then shit the fuck up.
Two arguments right there for you.
Your claims against me are annoying, baseless, and each time I press you for evidence for your claims you dissappear until a month later where you pop up and respond to my comments with, yet again, more and more baseless assertions.
Claims need evidence and arguments. If you don’t have these, shut the fuck up.
For the record Race, do you ever feel guilty about the lives your blog has ruined and families you’ve destroyed. Just curious.
Hum, RR, tell me. You readily claim that there are genetically-driven driven differences in health and sports performance. In these domains, you are not bothered to acknowledge that both blacks and whites have their strengths and weaknesses and that as a whole, both are equally lucky and unlucky at the genetic lottery.
Yet, magically, when you speculate about genetic influences on cognition and behavior, it seems that whites have all the most desirable traits and the poor blacks are cursed with every vice. How come ?
PS: Don’t say I’m putting words on your mouth and that you don’t talk in terms of desirable/undesirable, vice/virtue or inferior/superior. It won’t work on me, you can’t hide behind carefully selected words, it’s my job to read the unwritten.
Don’t take offence RR but you need to be honest about your thoughts and motivations to blog.It’s only fair, I asked PP some clarifications on his ideology and he passed the test, although his logic would only make sense in a parallel reality. And everybody is free to question my Christian-democrat opinions and get a sincere and elaborate explanation from me as long as they’re not downright silly like the Philibuster.
So you just said:
“Why do you assume? You must not see me criticize white nationalists. That’s cool man, be selective.”
Yet you say you’re an American nationalist, so my question is: is America a white or a multiracial nation ? And does your nationalism defend all the races that make America ?
“Blacks are more likely to be “bad” (whatever that means).”
We both know what it means. I’m glad to know I’m more likely to be bad than you.
“I don’t think it is, but if it is redeemable then provided evidence.”
Eugenics is not an acceptable way to repair what you believe has to be repaired.
“…. Are they not? Is crime not extremely high in areas that are majority black?”
They’re not, you can find plenty of perfectly livable American suburbs and inner city neighborhoods which are majority black, and if you like exoticism, you can even find your paradise in Africa and the Caribbean. Lots of French retirees go to Senegal or Martinique to spend their last days.
“What? If you mean all claims about blacks having a leg up are false, no I don’t believe that.”
Yet BLM are terrorists, MLK was a fraud and AA is the most scandalous policy of US history.
“I’ve never claimed this. If so, please provide me the source with me saying this.”
You’ve spent a lot of energy demonstrating and trying to convince us that that blacks are weaker than whites although the evidence you selected clearly isn’t as conclusive as you think it is.
“Can you go more in depth here? Look at majority black cities like Detroit and Chicago. Would you want to live there?”
I don’t think Chicago is a majority black city, but I know Kiev and Moscow are majority white cities and I’d rather live in Dakar, Abidjan, Pointe-à-Pitre or Lagos than in either cities.
“Show me 3 of them. If it’s so rampant, as you claim, showing me three things that back your claim should be easy.”
I can:
Bonus:
“Source? Not one shows blacks positively? Ha. Read my recent sports articles. You’re a joke. You make idiotic assertions and provide no arguments nor evidence.”
“Blacks are good at sports”… You take no risk… Btw, do you know that there other races in the world than blacks ? Why do we take too much of your attention ?
“Your claims against me are annoying, baseless, and each time I press you for evidence for your claims you dissappear until a month later where you pop up and respond to my comments with, yet again, more and more baseless assertions.”
His claims are annoying, I agree. But they ain’t baseless, in French we say:
Il n’y a pas de fumée sans feu. (There is no smoke with fire)
A few questions to RR and anyone on here who claims not to be racist.
As we all know, having “a black friend” doesn’t make you tolerant and unbiased. Here is the real test:
-Do you feel comfortable in the middle of a black crowd ?
-Would you mind being the only white person in your street and having only white neighbors ?
-Would you have minded being raised by a black family if your biological parents couldn’t have taken care of you ?
“-Would you mind being the only white person in your street and having only white neighbors ?”
-Would you mind being the only white person in your street and having only black neighbors ?
One last racism test question: would you support a cause that only or mostly benefits black people ? For instance, Haiti hurricane relief, BLM, research funding for sickle cell anemia or famine in Somalia.
Everything i asserted About racerealist is true. You want proof scumbag? Look at the 1000s of racist comments you’ve made in peepees blog here and almost all the articles in your shitty blog. Don’t pretend to hate Duke, MacDonald. And Spencer we all know you worship them and their biased warped views . Any article by pp or afro slightly praising Africans will make you chimp out and you will come up with shit like negroes in negroland and racisother colonial whites dubious pseudo scientific materials. You cannot hide your anti black rhetoric so you try to mask it with your fake opposition to Anglin , Spencer and neo Nazis. Given your virulent anti-Semitism and racism that you espouse in all articles along with your belief that whites created everything under the sun, why do not you just admit you are one of those 1488 altrightist Scumfaggot? Gladly not many people give much importance to the likes of you and other racist scumbags like Matilda whom you idolise
“You want proof scumbag? Look at the 1000s of racist comments you’ve made in peepees blog here and almost all the articles in your shitty blog.”
Scumbag. Why the vitriol? Can you have an adult conversation or is name-calling and baseless assertions the best you have?
Thousands of comments here and my blog is proof, eh? Show. Me. Claims need evidence and arguments.
“Don’t pretend to hate Duke, MacDonald. And Spencer we all know you worship them and their biased warped views”
I need evidence for this assertion. Saying “we all know” is fallacious.
“Any article by pp or afro slightly praising Africans will make you chimp out”
Racist.
“you will come up with shit like negroes in negroland and racisother colonial whites dubious pseudo scientific materials”
Source?
“You cannot hide your anti black rhetoric so you try to mask it with your fake opposition to Anglin , Spencer and neo Nazis”
Do you have evidence for your claims and not baseless assertions? I don’t like them. I don’t ‘worship them’.
“Given your virulent anti-Semitism”
Being critical of Jews is anti-Semitic. Got it.
“and racism that you espouse in all articles along with your belief that whites created everything under the sun”
Where have I claimed this? I have written things opposite to this.
Baseless assertion. Wishful thinking.
” why do not you just admit you are one of those 1488 altrightist Scumfaggot?”
Why admit something that isn’t true?
“Gladly not many people give much importance to the likes of you and other racist scumbags like Matilda whom you idolise”
Where have I said this? I have referenced her, but that doesn’t mean I idolize her.
This is great. You claim I give so much importance to racist scumbags such as Matilda (citation needed), yet don’t say shit to PP about his idolization of Rushton, who has influenced a lot of my views. Why is that?
Take a stab at my above comment if you can. Responding to your baseless claims sans evidence and arguments is tiring.
You’re a joke.
“Being critical of Jews is anti-Semitic. Got it.”
Yes.
How does my girlfriend deserve your criticism ? You can be anti-elitist and criticize how the elite have too much power but why singling out Jews ? And even if you’re anti-elitist instead of antisemitic, why lumping all rich people like we’re all evil ?
If you want to accuse people, say their names (first name and surname, not ethnic epithets), their occupations and tell us what they do exactly.
I understand that you want to be objective when dealing with the topics you’re interested in and that you want to be seen as objective by readers. But if I wanted to come off as a basic racist, I would try to sound just like you.
“How does my girlfriend deserve your criticism ? You can be anti-elitist and criticize how the elite have too much power but why singling out Jews ?
Sephardics don’t have disproportionate power in America. It’s the Ashkenazi.
” but why singling out Jews ? And even if you’re anti-elitist instead of antisemitic, why lumping all rich people like we’re all evil ?”
Jews have disproportionate power in America. I don’t believe rich people are evil. You know me. Free market. However, what you do with power and influence and how it affects the populace means much more.
“If you want to accuse people, say their names (first name and surname, not ethnic epithets), their occupations and tell us what they do exactly.”
George Soros is the main one.
“I understand that you want to be objective when dealing with the topics you’re interested in and that you want to be seen as objective by readers”
Everyone is biased. Anyone is biased. It’s about minimizing your biases. I do all I can to minimize my biases. How am I not objective?
” But if I wanted to come off as a basic racist, I would try to sound just like you.”
Cute. Name-calling doesn’t work here my friend.
PP why is my other comment on testosterone and strength in moderation?
Because i made 2 very straightforward points & instead of understanding them, you just blathered on and on and on about prostate cancer and other irrelevant details & in a very disrespectful way
I mean, saying that I “don’t understand the difference between circumstantial evidence & proof” doesn’t really say anything. Type I fibers fire first when heavy lifting. Whites have more type I fibers. Powerlifters and and Olympic lifters have type II a fibers, not IIx (like blacks). This explains why blacks are hardly represented.
I brought up PCa because that’s why Ross et al looked at testosterone levels.
And I countered your point with an article of mine on brain size as well as running down what these hormones do in the body.
Your claim is that blacks have higher average testosterone (not true, 3 meta analyses back my claim! Richard et al 2014, Rohrmann et al 2007 and the CARDIA study!).
Rushton was wrong. You are wrong.
Your first point sucked because it didn’t address the data. Your response to me in regards to what I wrote citing physiology studies is like what anti-hereditarians say in regards to heritability. They always attack methodology (which Nevin Sesardic has defended extremely well). That’s what you do to me in regards to these studies.
Ive been doing this for years PP. I know the literature. I know what these things do. This is my life.
I mean, saying that I “don’t understand the difference between circumstantial evidence & proof” doesn’t really say anything. Type I fibers fire first when heavy lifting. Whites have more type I fibers. Powerlifters and and Olympic lifters have type II a fibers, not IIx (like blacks). This explains why blacks are hardly represented.
This is such simplistic logic. It’s like saying height is used to play basketball. Blacks have more NBA players than whites. This proves blacks are taller than whites. EXCEPT THEY’RE NOT! I’ve seen better reasoning from ten-year-olds.
I brought up PCa because that’s why Ross et al looked at testosterone levels.
It doesn’t matter why he looked at it. Why do you always get distracted by peripheral points? What matters is he looked at it, and found young black men had way more T than young white men!
And I countered your point with an article of mine on brain size as well as running down what these hormones do in the body.
Your brain size article was a joke. The fact that brain size tripled just to improve expertise and not intelligence in general is idiotic. I can’t even describe how stupid it is. First of all, there’s no such thing as expertise, it’s just a combination of general intelligence, specific mental talents, and experience. Second, the biggest difference between the large human brain and the much smaller chimp one is our capacity for language, self-awareness, and social understanding, NOT expertise. Please use your brain before promoting such dumb ideas.
Your claim is that blacks have higher average testosterone (not true, 3 meta analyses back my claim! Richard et al 2014, Rohrmann et al 2007 and the CARDIA study!).
No they don’t RR. Even you were forced to admit, Richard et al showed that when controlling for age, blacks had 2.5 to 4.9 percent more testosterone than whites, on average. Rohrmann also found blacks had more T than whites (5.29 ng/ml vs 5.11 ng/ml). Further, none of these studies test my specific claim that YOUNG black men have substantially more T than young white men.
In the NHANES 2011–2012 sample, among young men with no education beyond high school, mean T of blacks is nearly 100 ng/dL higher than mean T of whites
Neither PP nor anyone espouses racism as much as you racerealist. Anybody talking about rushton and bell curve doesn’t automatically. Become racist. The way they express make all the difference in the world. But look at your comments, you just use scumfucks like Matilda, david Duke to espouse your racism unlike pp or anyone.
“Sephardics don’t have disproportionate power in America. It’s the Ashkenazi.”
Sephardi Jews are a successful group in France too. But let’s pretend my girl is Ashkenazi, or let’s get her out of this conversation and talk about all those Jews that are not even rich nor have positions of power. How do they deserve your criticism ?
Whites have disproportionate power relative to blacks. Among whites, Episcopalians have disproportionate power relative to Evangelists. Yet I never see you denouncing these disparities, you even say you’re against equality of outcome. So why are Jews the only group whose disproportional power bothers you ?
“However, what you do with power and influence and how it affects the populace means much more.”
Oh, if “the Jews” are responsible for making racism unacceptable and limiting the spread of the alternative facts you find more accurate than what the mainstream media, they don’t deserve your criticism, they deserve a collective Nobel Price of Peace.
So tell me, what illegal and immoral things powerful Jews have to be blamed for ? And how are they worse than the schemes of powerful non-Jews.
“George Soros is the main one.”
What’s wrong with Soros ? Who’s harmed because of him ? You know, the US judicial system is what it is, but you can always form an association and engage a legal action against him and his organizations if he does anything illegal.
“Everyone is biased. Anyone is biased. It’s about minimizing your biases. I do all I can to minimize my biases. How am I not objective?”
I think you try your best to be objective, or rather that you are not dishonest when you discuss science topics. But a bit more thesis/antithesis thinking in your comments and papers would help you reach the level of objectivity that would further keep your biases in check.
“Cute. Name-calling doesn’t work here my friend.”
Sorry, my bad, I’m annoyed by your beating around the bush. You know racism is something I can’t stand, especially if we get along otherwise. So you need to be frank and respond to my comments.
Peepee, have you even read that last study you posted ? They sort of conclude the cause is environmental because the testosterone difference is only found in those black guys engaged in the street cred culture relative to other blacks and whites. Approximately a 16% difference between them and the rest. And it shrinks with age.
Afro Say Pee In, I was just interested in their raw data which are consistent with both a genetic OR an environmental interpretation. Maybe people with genetically more T are more prone to join street cultures? But T can definitely be influenced by environment. Its heritability is only about 40% which is about as low as the heritability of muscle fibres (thanks for the link RR) which makes my point that contrary to RR, there is no strong evidence for racially genetic differences in strength favoring whites (or blacks)
Disclaimer for RR, he did answer my questions in private, and according to what he told me he’s 20% racist on my scale.
“which are consistent with both a genetic OR an environmental interpretation”
The honor culture hypothesis way proposed by Richard Nisbett in 1993. It attempts to explain the higher murder rate in the south. He hypothesizes that since the Scotch-Irish were herders, they needed this “honor culture” to defend their property and their families. However, this doesn’t hold up when comparing southern whites with Northern whites.
Although we analyze similar data and address the same conceptual issues, we find no support for the Nisbett-Reaves hypothesis. Overall, white male homicides in rural counties in the South do not vary as predicted by Nisbett’s theory. Moreover, for some estimates of white male homicide rates, when county homicides are adjusted for differences in white poverty, the patterns are directly opposite to the Nisbett-Reaves predictions.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/200904/is-southern-violence-due-culture-honor
But that doesn’t mean that this holds for black Americans.
But let’s assume it’s true for blacks. This could partly explain why they commit more amounts of crime. Their street culture. I am a huge critic of sociology, but this is a good study. It shows that environmental factors have a large impact on testosterone levels, which I’ve been arguing for months.
“Maybe people with genetically more T are more prone to join street cultures?”
Environmental factors increase testosterone. There is a whole bunch of research on this. I showed you that Mazur said that the time of the testing was not recorded. That’s a huge factor.
” which is about as low as the heritability of muscle fibres ”
You can’t really change your fiber type. Blacks need to do more anaerobic exercise and they can have fibers similar to type I but not fully.
” which makes my point that contrary to RR, there is no strong evidence for racially genetic differences in strength”
No it doesn’t. Refer back to the quote from Entine on training and elite athletes.
The honor culture hypothesis way proposed by Richard Nisbett in 1993. It attempts to explain the higher murder rate in the south. He hypothesizes that since the Scotch-Irish were herders, they needed this “honor culture” to defend their property and their families. However, this doesn’t hold up when comparing southern whites with Northern whites.
Get to the point RR!
Although we analyze similar data and address the same conceptual issues, we find no support for the Nisbett-Reaves hypothesis. Overall, white male homicides in rural counties in the South do not vary as predicted by Nisbett’s theory. Moreover, for some estimates of white male homicide rates, when county homicides are adjusted for differences in white poverty, the patterns are directly opposite to the Nisbett-Reaves predictions.
I’m taking a nap. Can someone wake me up when RR gets to the point.
But let’s assume it’s true for blacks. This could partly explain why they commit more amounts of crime. Their street culture. I am a huge critic of sociology, but this is a good study. It shows that environmental factors have a large impact on testosterone levels, which I’ve been arguing for months.
So you should have just said this and not made me read through all the other stuff. Time is money RR!
Environmental factors increase testosterone. There is a whole bunch of research on this. I showed you that Mazur said that the time of the testing was not recorded. That’s a huge factor.
Environmental factors affect muscle fibres too, otherwise it wouldn’t be 55% environmental, according to the link you provided me.
You can’t really change your fiber type. Blacks need to do more anaerobic exercise and they can have fibers similar to type I but not fully.
Immutable != genetic.
No it doesn’t. Refer back to the quote from Entine on training and elite athletes.
That quote was irrelevant RR.
“Get to the point RR!”
“I’m taking a nap. Can someone wake me up when RR gets to the point.”
“So you should have just said this and not made me read through all the other stuff. Time is money RR!”
Care to set some comment guidelines?
“Environmental factors affect muscle fibres too, otherwise it wouldn’t be 55% environmental, according to the link you provided me.”
It was 40 percent environment, 15 percent due to sampling error.
Physical activity can improve fitness it cannot alter a person’s biological endowment (Entine, 2000: 253).
“Immutable != genetic”
You are born with your fiber typing. The literature on changing your typing is very very spotty. It doesn’t convince me.
“That quote was irrelevant RR.”
It showed the importance of muscle fiber typing in regards to elite athletic performance. You can do all the training you want but all things being equal, the one with better biological endowment will win (muscle fiber is one variable, I’ve been through the other variables extensively).
Human muscle fibers are largely fixed, but can be changed to a point with specific types of training. For instance, people with type I fibers have less of a chance of acquiring diabetes and have an easier time losing weight than people with type II fibers. This held for lean blacks and lean whites (type I fibers), obese blacks and obese whites (type II fibers), obese blacks and lean whites (type II and I fibers respectively) and obese whites and lean blacks (type II and I fibers respectively).
Care to set some comment guidelines?
My only guideline is get to the point. Don’t get distracted. Now I’m thinking your ADD diagnosis was correct.
It was 40 percent environment, 15 percent due to sampling error.
Okay 40%. That’s still huge. Taking the square root of 0.4 tells us there’s a potent 0.63 correlation between muscle fibres and environmental variables.
You are born with your fiber typing. The literature on changing your typing is very very spotty. It doesn’t convince me.
How do you know we’re born with it? Are there studies showing infant muscle fibres correlate perfectly with adult muscle fibres? And even if we are born with it, that still doesn’t prove it’s genetic. People with bad prenatal environments are born with small brains, and that’s largely immutable, but still not genetic. So you’re supporting your thesis (genetic difference) with an unproven statement (born with it) which itself doesn’t prove to your thesis.
You’re talking to one of the biggest celebrities in the history of HBD and you’re coming across like some kid trying to play basketball with Michael Jordan. You’re not on your little blog anymore, you’re in the big leagues now. 300,000 very smart people are reading. You need to step up your game:
“My only guideline is get to the point. Don’t get distracted. Now I’m thinking your ADD diagnosis was correct.”
Noted. Maybe it is, but everyone gets distracted.
“Okay 40%. That’s still huge. Taking the square root of 0.4 tells us there’s a potent 0.63 correlation between muscle fibres and environmental variables.”
Right. And genetic factors explain 67 percent of the variation.
“How do you know we’re born with it? Are there studies showing infant muscle fibres correlate perfectly with adult muscle fibres?”
I don’t think it’s ethical to do muscle biopsies on newborns.
” And even if we are born with it, that still doesn’t prove it’s genetic. ”
Even if we are largely born with our level of intelligence, that still doesn’t prove that it’s genetic.
Same thing.
The onus is then on you to prove environmental factors that contribute to muscle fiber typing—I mean extensively. I’ll cite some research this afternoon on the spotiness of these studies.
“People with bad prenatal environments are born with small brains, and that’s largely immutable, but still not genetic”
Correct. But are there environmental factors that dictate muscle fiber acquisition? Obviously there are, but over the course of hundreds/thousands of years. You need to prove that environmental factors can change fiber typing.
” So you’re supporting your thesis (genetic difference) with an unproven statement (born with it) which itself doesn’t prove to your thesis.”
http://www.unm.edu/%7Elkravitz/Article%20folder/genetics.html
I will quote the relevant part:
Medical geneticists have clearly shown that all muscular properties are subject to inherited influences. Muscle fiber numbers are presumably determined by the second trimester of fetal development (McArdle, Katch, & Katch, 1991) . The genetic contributions to muscle tissue fiber composition and size are significant.
…
However, as will be discussed in the sections to follow, the proportion of slow and fast twitch muscle fiber types is genetically determined and can not be influenced by training (Costill, Fink, & Pollack, 1976; Gollnick, et al., 1972; Pette & Staron, 1990).
Most muscle biopsies that “show a change” are biased towards small little tears in the fibers extracted.
“You’re talking to one of the biggest celebrities in the history of HBD and you’re coming across like some kid trying to play basketball with Michael Jordan. You’re not on your little blog anymore, you’re in the big leagues now. 300,000 people are reading. You need to step up your game:”
I need to step my game up? I won’t address address this. I’m turning over a new leaf in my attitude in regards to my comments. Please show me the same consideration. Thank you.
You need to step your game up here, my friend.
“Okay 40%. That’s still huge. Taking the square root of 0.4 tells us there’s a potent 0.63 correlation between muscle fibres and environmental variables.”
Right. And genetic factors explain 67 percent of the variation.
Not exactly. You don’t take the square root of heritability to get the genetic variance because heritability is the genetic variance and by definition it’s a squared variable. However the square root of heritability tells you the correlation with genetics which is indeed 0.67.
I don’t think it’s ethical to do muscle biopsies on newborns.
All the more reason why your statement isn’t proven.
Even if we are largely born with our level of intelligence, that still doesn’t prove that it’s genetic.
Same thing.
It is the same thing, but the heritability for IQ in adults is a lot higher than 0.45, and while I personally believe in HBD, the case for racially genetic IQ differences has NOT been proven the way you constantly claimed you’ve proven the case for racially genetic strength differences.
The onus is then on you to prove environmental factors that contribute to muscle fiber typing—I mean extensively.
No the onus is on you to prove there’s a racially genetic differences favoring whites. I have consistently stated you hadn’t proven your case, and you’ve consistently gone ballistic every time I expressed even the slightest bit of skepticism.
.
Correct. But are there environmental factors that dictate muscle fiber acquisition? Obviously there are, but over the course of hundreds/thousands of years. You need to prove that environmental factors can change fiber typing.
You just agreed that 40% of the variance is environmental and that the correlation with environment is 0.63. That means that for every 1 standard deviation improvement in environment, muscle fibres improve by 0.63 SD, on average. Now we don’t know what these environmental effects are. They could be anything from exposure to vitamin D (on which blacks are at a disadvantage in America) to diet, sleep, prenatal conditions etc.
Medical geneticists have clearly shown that all muscular properties are subject to inherited influences. Muscle fiber numbers are presumably determined by the second trimester of fetal development (McArdle, Katch, & Katch, 1991) . The genetic contributions to muscle tissue fiber composition and size are significant.
But the environmental contribution is significant too, as evidenced by the 0.63 correlation with environment.
…
However, as will be discussed in the sections to follow, the proportion of slow and fast twitch muscle fiber types is genetically determined and can not be influenced by training
But only 45% of the variance is genetically determined according to your own link and even if it can’t be influenced by training, that doesn’t prove it can’t be influenced by other environmental variables. Maybe prenatal health before the second trimester is what’s pivotal.
The best I could find with a cursory pubmed search is from age 6 to adulthood there is no change in fiber typing.
It was concluded that the fiber type distribution pattern and ultrastructure of skeletal muscle in six-year-old children was not different from normal adult tissue.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7392899
” So tell me, what illegal and immoral things powerful Jews have to be blamed for ? And how are they worse than the schemes of powerful non-Jews. ”
He has got to be the dumbest gorilla on the planet.
What is the point of living when you are that stupid ?
What jews have done after coming to power
1. The war on Iraq which gave us ISIS , >$3 trillion in debt and countless deaths
2. The destabilization of Syria which gave us millions of refugees
3. The immigration act of 1965 which has effectively turned America into a non-white country and created all the racial tensions we have today.
4. The Promotion of Pornography which has destroyed millions of youth
5. The gay agenda
6. Feminism
7. Gangsta Rap
8. Miscegenation
9. hundreds of billions in foreign aid to Israel
10. Communism and the millions of christian deaths that came with it
that’s only 10 of the 1,000 i could mention
90% of our problems would not exist today if there were no jews in the western world.
Afro’s sephardic chick has him on leash
she’s telling him to slavishly defend jews or she wont let him stroke her hook nose.
RR has a point when he mentions that your chick is sephardic and not ashkenazi
Sephardics are irrelevant and completely useless and that’s why isreal tried to kill them all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworm_affair_(Israel)
remember that anything you read on there is watered down as they control wiki
Ive read numbers as high as 100,000 Jews from Morocco alone
jimmy’s gayness is sad!
he makes his money as a thief, yet he’s proud of it!
sad!
what is his native language?
still waiting!
I always felt the best way to tell if someone was racist was the following:
Are you willing to let your daughter (hypothetically) have a black child?
“Not exactly. You don’t take the square root of heritability to get the genetic variance because heritability is the genetic variance and by definition it’s a squared variable. However the square root of heritability tells you the correlation with genetics which is indeed 0.67.”
Thanks for the correction. I knew something sounded off.
“All the more reason why your statement isn’t proven.”
I seem to be incorrect.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/685892
“It is the same thing, but the heritability for IQ in adults is a lot higher than 0.45, and while I personally believe in HBD, the case for racially genetic IQ differences has NOT been proven the way you constantly claimed you’ve proven the case for racially genetic strength differences.”
Prenatal environment effects inteligence just as it does muscle fibers. Low birth weight babies, for instance, have decreased type IIa fibers. I have proven it. See below.
“No the onus is on you to prove there’s a racially genetic differences favoring whites. I have consistently stated you hadn’t proven your case, and you’ve consistently gone ballistic every time I expressed even the slightest bit of skepticism.”
I have proven it. Whites have more type I fibers than blacks. Powerlifters/Olympic lifters have more type I fibers compared to controls. You have a laser focus on muscle fiber, but have said nothing to the somatypic differences that also matter.
“You just agreed that 40% of the variance is environmental and that the correlation with environment is 0.63. That means that for every 1 standard deviation improvement in environment, muscle fibres improve by 0.63 SD, on average. Now we don’t know what these environmental effects are. They could be anything from exposure to vitamin D (on which blacks are at a disadvantage in America) to diet, sleep, prenatal conditions etc.”
So there is atrophy in type II fibers in low birth weight babes, but it’s largely determined by genetics and the combination and formation of new cells.
People who lack vitamin D have type II fiber atrophy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2901845/
It’s determined by the 2nd trimester.
https://books.google.com/books?id=rg7OBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=muscle+fiber+second+trimester&source=bl&ots=ySzpRGEHC1&sig=rYy5MmWjigSQAzJ91Untv-TuuJM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivvNSi4KbTAhWs6oMKHcdyDzMQ6AEINzAD#v=onepage&q=muscle%20fiber%20second%20trimester&f=false
(Explanation below)
Muscle fiber type dictates weight loss/diabetes acquisition.
http://www.drsharma.ca/does-muscle-fibre-type-determine-dietary-weight-loss
^^^ One of the world’s foremost obesity researchers.
I’m not aware of actual diet affecting muscle fiber typing though.
Not aware of sleep either.
“But the environmental contribution is significant too, as evidenced by the 0.63 correlation with environment.”
“But only 45% of the variance is genetically determined according to your own link and even if it can’t be influenced by training, that doesn’t prove it can’t be influenced by other environmental variables. Maybe prenatal health before the second trimester is what’s pivotal.”
Muscle fibers are formed during development by the combination of immature cells called myoblasts which then turn into long multinucleated cells. The distinction of these cells occurs before birth.
Low birth weight babies at age 19 have decreased type IIa fibers.
It’s largely inherited. And not even the only thing I base my argument on. Somatype (whites are more endo, with different limb lengths/proportions, more body fat), type I fibers, grip strength, and looking at elite competitions prove my case.
http://cdn3.chartsbin.com/chartimages/l_1155_363051fe6b40278981d337d95fab6812
It probably matters, but something as complex as cognition won’t be explained by single factor theories.
Right here scumbag. All your comments are pseudoscience and racist. You agree with other racist pricks like SAlger just to demean black woman’s level of attractiveness. Everytime some says beauty is in the eye of beholder, you seem to bring up junk science and illusions and throw blanket statements like every race hates black women. Every races like mongoloid, caucasoid, etc are attractive except black because of your hatred and prejudice and you still crib “white genocide” displaying this much virulent racism
(Note: Testosterone differences between the races are negligible, not high enough to account for differences in prostate cancer mortality. Black males have 2.5 to 4.9 times higher testosterone than white males (see Richard et al, 2014) and my article on the cause for the difference in prostate cancer mortality. The difference in testosterone between the races is not too high, as is commonly believed. Old studies with small ns get cited, when bigger, more robust analyses show the opposite, with a smaller difference. A difference that cannot be attributed to racial differences in prostate cancer.)
Good job buddy. You haven’t read a lot of my writing because if you did you’d see my views have changed.
yesterday it was “george lucas”.
sad!
France’s presidential election candidates as primary school class delegates:
Mort de rire, excellent !
They look french
Which one looks French ? And why French and not Belgian, Italian or Luxembourgian ?
As we all know real french people look african.
African like Berber , Yoruba or Afrikaner ?
Poor Pewdiepie had to be taken out by Denmark as white male pop culture figures are not allowed to be popular.
pewdipie gets the J-problem and they dont know what to do with him.
A good lad. He’ll be stronger for it after seeing the enemies methods.
yes. swedes hate danes.
Interesting to speculate what Di Caprio, Nicholson, Hanks etc think of the #GimmedemOscarsYo phenomenon.
I remember David Bowie said very little about his politics in life.
That’s usually a sign that they hold socially conservative views. Di Caprio is quite intelligent with the environmental aspect. You’ll notice most trust fund babies like prince Charles, Al Gore and so on pick this cause celebre as it is liberal without being bad to their interests.
I too support environmental regulation. Not enough to make a speech about it in public though.
Some other ‘neutral’ causes include children’s rights, anti human trafficking, animal cruelty and so on.
#Gimmedatwelfare #Gimmeyourfarmland #Gimmeaccesstoveeman #Gimme Gimme Gimme #Danish Illusion cannot hold.
The root of all evil in this world is Denmark. How long before the Slavs, Arabs and Gentiles don’t unite against the common foe.
In the Mid East its well known that Denmark controls the West I think. They are not very logical, but if you talk to them they’re instinct is right – there’s a cabal of some sort. But the detail is a bit wild or fruity.
I’m fairly certain Putin knows Denmark is behind the anti Trump peace offering and Syria and so on.
Its so obvious that Denmark is a pit of all evil. Socially, economically and millitarily. If we can knock out the MSM and put our minds into countering academic brainwashing people like Afro and Melo will return to their former status of zoology papers.
yes. the danelaw was half of england in the 9th c, now it’s 100%.
sad!
Race still hasn’t disavowed the KKK, ergo…he is a member of the KKK.
#Danishmedialogic
The new guy on the team has a 110IQ. Its a bit awkward how much he tries to cover it. I don’t think people particularly care if hes a dummy, but hes also a SJW and wants to do a PHD in sociology.
Perhaps to talk about intersectionality between UFOs and institutional racism. My conspiracy theories have more logic in them, than his academic materials.
But academia grades on kissing (((someones))) ring, not logic. The only logic allowed is looking at alarm clocks and wondering how they work.
i srsly tried to apply to a Sociology PhD program this year,but like the professor is a toatal Virgo and wouldn’t let me in. he was like being a hater just because i got a negative 0 on the math section of the GRE. Virgo’s can be such joykills. and passive aggressive. Virgo’s do this thing where they like rub their face with their middle finger,and like it’s sooo obvious they are flipping you off but they like try to make it look like they’er not. but it’s true,if i was like in the Masons or a h*mos*xual and willing to exchanged s*xual favors i would’ve been excepted in the pgoram.
afro is twice peepee’s age yet he still follows the individualist ideology. it follows from afro’s “reasoning” that whites should still rule latin america and southern africa, the overseas chinese should rule south east asia, the indians should rule east africa, etc. and this has no effect on popular sovereignty. afro wouldn’t mind if 100% of the forbes 400 was jews.
sad!
grow a penis already you self-hating black racist!
There is a comment from a girl, wharton MBA graduate, at McKinsey : She says that most recruit are 125 – 150 with average IQ of 136. And in higher ranks, the range diminishes with the same average. (like Nasa astronauts IQ).
She explains that the 800 Wharton having an average GMAT of 730 (fifth percentile), wich is accepted by Mensa as 130 IQ proof, half of the class (400), apply to McKinsey and all those who land on offer go. I’ve found of the internet McKinsey accept 45-50 people from Wharton each year. There, the recruitment will be 80% on problem solving skills, that’s IQ, because most students have the business knowledge and correct socialization. That means they select 1 in 6 on IQ on a base of 132 IQ people. That’s why the average must be around 140-141 IQ. It’s a bit higher than 136, but it’s logic that they could have a disadvantage compared to more diverse background people (McKinsey love public service, physician, phd recruitment, and not having a 100% MBA workforce).
So all partners from McKinsey must be 130-145 people. This guess is conform with my impression when i had the chance to meet lots of them 15 years ago.
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-median-IQ-of-a-McKinsey-Bain-BCG-hire-in-either-the-UK-US
You have a very naive way of looking at things
The GMAT is not an IQ test. Look at practice questions and see for yourself.
Not a single standardized test in the US is an IQ test.
You have seen the WAIS IQ score of Anime kitty and you know that he got an SAT score that was in the 99.8th percentile.
If someone with a WAIS IQ of 113 can look like he has an IQ of 143 then you know that the SAT is not an IQ test.
You live in France so you don’t understand the US academic culture. If you did then you would know that many students prep for years .
That sounds very strange to a european because in europe you get textbooks and memorize the material and then get tested on that material with what we would call achievement tests.
The SAT is meant to measure innate ability while the GPA is there to measure work ethic.
l
” GMAT of 730 (fifth percentile), which is accepted by Mensa ”
Mensa is a business.
What business would reject MBAs and their heavy wallets ?
” my impression when i had the chance to meet lots of them 15 years ago.”
You also thought that Bill o’reilly was a genius
If someone with a WAIS IQ of 113 can look like he has an IQ of 143 then you know that the SAT is not an IQ test.
no “you” don’t.
this proves jimmy’s claims to be a quant trader is a lie. he’s never taken a course in mathematical statistics.
sad!
1. anime kitty and jimmy are fictional persons.
2. there is zero psychometric evidence that any entrance exam has less validity than any soi-disant IQ test. there’s lots of evidence entrance exams have more.
3. SLDR in adults and chillens has evidence.
4. even supposing that there is no SLDR the probability of a 113 on one IQ test and 143 on another is not very small, especially if they weren’t administered simultaneously (in the same year) and the fictional person has “issues” that he didn’t have or vice versa.
if the correlation between the SAT and WAIS were .7, what fraction of the time would a 143 score 113 or less on one or the other?
answer: about 1 in every 18 test takers. not that rare at all.
thus i repeat:
1. jimmy’s native language is not english.
2. jimmy has lied about his occupation.
OR
jimmy is peepee.
OR
really fucking incompetents do algo trading for jpm.
whichever it is…
sad!
2. there is zero psychometric evidence that any entrance exam has less validity than any soi-disant IQ test.
Yes there is you genetically inferior sack of shit. I showed you three populations that were selected from the general population to be +3 SD on the SAT yet were barely +1.5 SD on IQ tests. The reason you’re too dumb to understand the implications is because neither you or your inferior father has ever scored high on an ACTUAL IQ test so you’re forced to cling to measures of book learning.
And stop calling them soi-disant IQ tests you pretentious fuck. They’re simply called IQ tests. College admission exams are called achievement tests. We don’t need a whole new vocabulary just to accommodate your insecurities.
Take the Wechsler. Score high. THEN you will have my respect. Until then I’ll assume you’re too dumb for psychometrics.
Lastly, if the BGI study had used actual IQ tests instead of college exams, they WOULD have found IQ genes!
What is the difference between FSIQ and (g)?
Would (g) affect SAT scores more than FSIQ?
Would my “issues” be the reason I have low processing speed?
I almost fainted when I took the wais 4 in 2015.
If I had drunk a red bull I might have done better.
I sometimes have really low energy and can sleep for days at a time.
I was going to take Strattera but my insurance would not pay for it.
How does ADD affect IQ?
And how does psychosis affect IQ?
Also, I am not PP and I am not a fictional person. (I find this kind of funny)
Here Anime kitty
http://m.additudemag.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.additudemag.com%2Fq%2526a%2Fask_the_add_medical_expert%2F7266.html&utm_referrer=#2918
PP since you’re telling Mugabe to take the Weschler, what did you score on the test?
I scored in the mid 130s after subtracting points for old norms.
You would score 85.
How do you know what I would score?
I can’t tell precisely but based on your poor reading comprehension, bad judgement & inability to get to the point, one can tell you’re below 100, but not too far below because you’re very successful & know more about physiology than I.
So 85-100.
“based on your poor reading comprehension”
Not at all! Reading is my strong point. Though I do admit when I misinterpret things. Shit happens.
Please provide some examples.
“bad judgement”
?
“inability to get to the point”
The things I talk about are complicated. Physiology is a complicated science.
“but not too far below because you’re very successful & know more about physiology than I.”
Because I literally read papers on this every day. It’s part of my life. I need to to become a better trainer.
“So 85-100.”
Ha. When I get the chance I’m going to look into the WAIS and will send you photos of my results. I strongly doubt your contention, but you may be right or wrong, maybe you’re far off the mark!
But you know of my school history buddy, that also plays a factor in what I know (especially math, but I’m learning).
PP is silly.
I’d say RR is at least 115 and no ADD like me.
I can tell that RR has good Working memory and Processing Speed.
AK, I was diagnosed with both ADD and ADHD. I think it’s way over diagnosed. Most people who get diagnosed with it don’t have it. Looking out the window during class? Must have ADD and ADHD. Don’t do the work because you find it boring? Must have ADD and ADHD. Then they give you drugs like Strattera and Ritalin etc and it turns you into an emotionless robot. Those drugs are, largely, manufactured and distributed to people who mostly don’t need them. It’s mostly Big Pharma trash.
Here’s an example of one thing I remeber at the psychologist.
She asked me to draw a house with a family. And when I drew the stick figures, I drew them without faces. Therefore I must have been depressed.
How stupid does that sound?
How old were you when you drew this? I took the same personality test at age 12, right before I was given the Wechsler. My pictures showed signs of depression, anxiety, and unexpressed anger. And no it’s not stupid RR. You’re very closed minded, which indicates low g.
I was 7 when I took it.
Yes it is stupid. No I am not close minded. I change my views constantly and always read things I don’t agree with to assess and strengthen my arguments and viewpoints. I’ve never seen you say you were wrong.
You wouldn’t have to constantly change your views if you thought them through in the first place. Calling a test you know nothing about stupid, is stupid. Smart people know when to keep their mouth shut.
Intelligent people change their views more. Eighty percent of psychology tests can’t be replicated. Explain what not drawing faces on people has to do with being depressed. Maybe this little test figured out something I didn’t know, but I wasn’t depressed. I just had drugs pushed on me.
Intelligent people change their views more. Eighty percent of psychology tests can’t be replicated.
I think you mean psychology studies, not tests. Every test can be replicated RR, it’s called a Xerox machine.
Explain what not drawing faces on people has to do with being depressed.
Mentally ill people like yourself, show signs of mental illness in their drawings.
Steinberg gets very angry when anyone talks about his beloved SAT because those results are all that he has to support his sense of entitlement .
I scored in the 99.9th percentile on my first try without prepping and yet i am willing to admit that the SAT is not an IQ test . Why? because i don’t need a small piece of paper to make me feel better about myself.
I am not a fan of official IQ tests but you cant find a $5 billion dollar industry that gives you ” tips ,tricks and strategies” to solve those questions
There are 89 colleges that have a 75th percentile that’s in the 1400s+ . How the hell is that even possible if a 1400 is a 137 IQ?
If a 1400 is an IQ of 137 and 1.7 million took the SAT and we accept the claim that the mean IQ of the takers is 105 ( i think its lower) then there should be a little less than 28k freshmen with a 1400 or higher.
roughly 70% of them would be taken by Ivy/stanford/MIT so how the hell can the other 79 colleges have that many?
your inability to spot anomalies is why you could never do what i do.
you are the first person i have ever encountered that has both autistic and schizophrenic traits. Thats probably why you’re such a failure.
imagine having a yid surname and an SAT in the high 1500s and still needing your mom to help you get a job.
does momy still change your diapers ?
I showed you three populations that were selected from the general population to be +3 SD on the SAT yet were barely +1.5 SD on IQ tests. The reason you’re too dumb to understand the implications
but there are no implications, and you never showed what you think you showed.
misdreavus and i are right. you have a very low IQ.
Not as low as you and Misdreavus, neither of whom have ever reported scores on actual IQ tests. As Pincher Martin, Jimmy, and the colleges that rejected you have explained, you’re simply not that smart.
but there are no implications, and you never showed what you think you showed.
And what pray tell was my argument? Explain it back to me so I can see if you understood. Prove to me that Pincher, Jimmy, and college admission officers are wrong and that you have the basic cognitive ability to pass a psych 101 class.
peepee is the only person on her blog who is mentally ill.
peepee is the only person on her blog who is mentally retarded.
peepee is the only person on her blog who is pretentious.
peepee is the only person on her blog who is doesn’t know it.
frey and detterman are wrong.
the bgi people are wrong.
psychometrics professors who call the SAT, etc. IQ tests all the time are wrong.
misdreavus is wrong.
i’m wrong.
peepee has a very low IQ.
sad!
LMAO
Is that the best you got? Insults.
Please tell me your address. I wont post it or you can email me. I know several americans who would LOVE to administer the Wechsler to you, for FREE.
If you’re not comfortable with them coming to your home, you can meet them somewhere.
$1000 test for free Mug of Pee!
I know several americans…
LMAO!
just like you speak 9 languages and have read all the world’s holy books?
i love this big black beautiful benevolent billionaire.
sad!
what psychometrician goes to people’s houses?
none.
what psychometrician goes to people’s houses?
They would go for you Mug of Pee. You’re a clinical psychologist’s dream. David Wechsler himself would return from the grave just to test you. He’d be like a kid in a candy store trying to diagnose all your pathologies.
That’s why people major in psychology. So they can study freaks like you! You’re actually one of the most fascinating cases in the history of clinical psychology. Someone could write a whole PhD thesis about it.
Jimmy :
1) “” my impression when i had the chance to meet lots of them 15 years ago.”You also thought that Bill o’reilly was a genius” –> 1 point 🙂
2) But, don’t forget that my point was not saying that Mensa is right in believing that someone with a 730 GMAT has an minimum IQ of 130. I was saying that 400 people admitted to Wharton with an average GMAT of 730 must have an average IQ of 130. Giving the fact they have been selected at 1 in 20 among bachelor with good grades and extremely ambitious, it doesn’t seem a crazy statement. I’ve read that the average Harvard bachelor had a 125 IQ. 5 points above don’t seem excessive because very few bachelor guy, even from Harvard, can make it in Harvard, Wharton or Stanford MBA.
PP
This article just came out (I thought of you because most of the research was done in your country, Canada):
“A pair of studies from the University of Toronto suggest that babies can develop racial biases as young as six to nine months, before they can walk or develop a vocabulary.”
https://sputniknews.com/art_living/201704131052623512-baby-racism-six-months-study/
Conclusion of the article:
Lee claims that the best way to avoid racial bias in children is to expose them to other races from an early age. “If parents want to prevent racial biases from emerging, the best thing to do is expose their kids to TV programs, books, and friends from different races. And the important message is they have to know them by name… it’s extremely important to know them as individuals.”
More evidence for EGI
afro should try to turn peepee. it’ll be hard.
sad!
sad!

i’m pretty sure the above is peepee.
one other possibility is that peepee is a girl who has a bizarre fetish for black women.
i heard a black woman go on about her fetish for filipino men. so such bizarre things do exist apparently.
“Smart people know when to keep their mouth shut.”
This is true PP. Unfortunately, the racist diseased vermin doesn’t understand and will keep believing his racist assertions and blathering.
Blah blah blah. Nothing but idiotic and baseless attacks. You can’t say anything to me on anything I talk about, you can only spew baseless garbage. Every single comment of yours here has been spewing baseless accusations, not reading my blog fully and just pure idiocy.
What’s his IQ PP?
I don’t know him well enough to judge. And sorry for not approving some of your comments RR, but they’re so incredibly long, so incredibly disrespectful and so incredibly unfocused, that I can’t even read them, let alone reply to them. I respect your expertise on this topic, but rather than trying to show-off all you know, you need to respond DIRECTLY and SUCCINCTLY to the points others people make and in a non-insulting way, otherwise no one will want to talk to you and your expertise will go to waste.
I apologize for how my comments come off. It’s just I’d like people to read into things that I’m knowledgeable about so a good discussion can commence.
I don’t think my comments re unfocused. This topic is very complex with a whole bunch of confounds. I just thought I’d give a break down of the study. I’ll do so on my blog.
Thank you for the compliment. I will take your criticism into thought. I’ll try to be more respectful but when people, such as Jason, make unfounded accusations against me, it ticks me off.
And I apologize if any of my comments came off as disrespectful toward you or anyone here. I’ll watch that in the future.
This topic is very complex with a whole bunch of confounds.
But part of your job as a writer is to make complex topics simple and digestible to a laymen. That doesn’t mean you have to dumb it down, but it does mean you have to get straight to the point, which means don’t waste time proving that T doesn’t explain prostate cancer, if that’s not your primary argument. When you copy and paste large bits of scholarly text, my brain just tunes out, especially if the quotes deal with peripheral subjects.
Apology accepted.
remember RR…
inevitably peepee will diagnose all of her genuine commenters as mentally ill AND retarded.
while you, pill, and i are the only one’s who appear to be possibly legit.
If the SAT were an IQ test like you so stupidly say, then RR would be psychometrically retarded which he obviously isn’t
He bombed the SAT because he attended an unusually crappy school which proves again why the SAT is only an IQ proxy, not an IQ test itself
Can I just say Jason is the greatest commenter this thread has ever had.
I scored in the 99.9th percentile on my first try without prepping
but you didn’t jimmy. sad!
everyone here knows jimmy is lying. peepee never responds to jimmy. conclusion: jimmy is peepee. sad!
Actually I am planning to respond to him today (about his comment about the number of 1400 SAT scores) but as usual got busy with RR
whatever peepee-tard.
i love oprah so much i can’t stand it.
still waiting on an adult IQ test score for you.
it can even be a joke, cereal box, soi-disant IQ test, like the WAIS.
funny how peepee has these people lined up to give me the WAIS at the very weird location of my own residence yet peepee has failed to take the WAIS herself.
sad!
the population which sits the SAT is select, but…
how exactly it is select isn’t known afaik.
so the percentiles (entire population IQs) for certain SAT scores might be higher or lower.
i agree with jimmy that mensa’s conversion is probably on the high side. but there are soooo many stupid people that smart people simply never come in contact with.
Asia Carrera is in mensa for God’s sake based on her SAT scores.
also, other high IQ societies accept a variety of entrance exams. and none of them are bid-ness-es. are they? is mensa a bid-ness? maybe. mensans are retarded losers. that’s fo’ sho. just like all high-Q society members.
sad!
just plain sad!
no one with an IQ > 100 has a ‘tache. not anymore anyway.
i agree with jimmy that mensa’s conversion is probably on the high side. but there are soooo many stupid people that smart people simply never come in contact with
If anything Mensa’s cutoff is too high if their goal is to welcome everyone who could score higher than 98% of americans
The problem is top 2% on the SAT is not 2% of g. That’s true even of the wechsler, but it’s a lot more true of the SAT
g loading is a load in your pants.
i saw it once. where? i don’t remember.
get all the soi-disant IQ tests and all the general entrance exams together.
calculate g for the lot.
determine g-loading for each.
the entrance exams are best.
g as factor depends on the battery.
i think peepee (aka jimmy) is angry because she doesn’t have a john holmes down there.
he know…
he know…
g loading is a load in your pants.
i saw it once. where? i don’t remember.
It might be 0.8 in academically homogenous samples but it’s nowhere near 0.8 if the WAIS and ACT were given to a nationally representative sample of American 17-year-olds. There’s too much inequality in U.S. schools; you’d get better results in Canada
Or maybe the ACT is more g loaded than the SAT.
You seem to think correlations are automatically higher in the general population than in select populations.
That’s a misunderstanding of range restriction
no. not automatically. OBVIOUSLY.
but in the case of the ACT references YES.
the achievement test (if it’s very general) and the IQ test distinction is what is (or was) often called…
“a distinction without a difference”.
that is, the distinction is purely verbal. the things are the same.
No Mug of Pee the distinction is not purely verbal, but it is relative. What is an IQ test in one population is an achievement test in another. In the general U.S. population the SAT functions as an achievement test, but among people people who have taken AP class (including math) all through high school, it’s functionally an IQ test.
it’s like the distinction between “affirmative action” and “quotas”.
there’s a purely verbal difference, but in reality they’re the same thing…at least in the US.
Actually pp you shouldn’t respond or even allow comments that are insulting you even if you do you must give it with the same venom. There are many mental midgets here who publish nothing but racist drivels consisting dubious theories, quack quack science, illusions all with liberal dosage of prejudice. When you scratch the surface it is evident that they only post to stir things up. The idea is to paint blacks as subhuman, Other NAMS as inferior.species, Jews as devil’s incarnates and white genocide and all other standard neonazi altright bullshit. You will have to dig through mountains of BS to reach out that little nugget. Is it really worth the time? Needless to say you must be knowing about the racist cretins which fall in that category
“There are many mental midgets here who publish nothing but racist drivels consisting dubious theories, quack quack science, illusions all with liberal dosage of prejudice”
Many wild claims. No evidence. I wonder why.
“When you scratch the surface it is evident that they only post to stir things up”
Evidence?
” The idea is to paint blacks as subhuman”
“Other NAMS as inferior.species”
“Jews as devil’s incarnates and white genocide and all other standard neonazi altright bullshit”
Nope.
“You will have to dig through mountains of BS to reach out that little nugget. Is it really worth the time? Needless to say you must be knowing about the racist cretins which fall in that category”
More emotional claims, no logical thought, arguments or evidence. Hmm…
here’s my address on zillow:
https://www.zillow.com/blog/did-she-or-didnt-she-was-oprah-shopping-for-a-mega-mansion-in-nj-30873/oprah-home/
just plain sad!
all that money cain’t wash the black off.
oprah is big pimpin’.
just like that horrible jew garry winnick.
more money than croesus + lower class = lower class.
just plain sad!
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/03/the-problem-with-the-gre/471633/
maybe peepee is right.
non-white, female, proles score lower on the GRE than they do on the WAIS.
something tells me…they don’t!
second comma wasn’t oxford.
it was drunk-ford.
no matter how hard you try peepee, you can never have my penis. my beautiful white penis. if i were a porn star my name would be “golden rod”.
and it kills you.
unless you have it inside you. i can make you like men peepee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDzZLgI-uko
100% agree with Jason. I’d just like to take this opportunity to thank Jason for taking a much needed courageous stand against bigotry and racism on this forum, where hate is actively encouraged by the cowardice of the host.
We all know who the problem people are. Top of the list is Race Racist and the associated commenters who endorse and praise his comments – Afrosapiens, Melo, Gondwana and of course the loathsome ‘magic negro shabbos goy’.
I think the time has come for Pumpkin to take a stand himself against their bile and evil and ban them to send a message that intolerance will not be condoned here.
Further, it may be time to lift moderation completely on a select few commenters who have managed to ably demonstrate an open mind to diversity despite the venom of the above group – myself, Jimmy, Robert, Carl Churchill, Santo and JS.
peepee claims a degree in psychology yet she doesn’t understand what “validity” means in the psychometric sense.
sad!
she claims the SAT isn’t an IQ test and harvard students aren’t that smart yet she claims college admissions committees select based on IQ.
it’s just so fucking sad!
pathetic!
she claims the SAT isn’t an IQ test and harvard students aren’t that smart yet she claims college admissions committees select based on IQ.
I didn’t say that. They reject onviously dumb people like you, but other than that select based on SAT/grades/leadership
so they’re good at rejecting dumb people.
but as long as you’re not dumb they’re bad at selecting smart-er from the merely smart?
got it!
In your case the dumbness is so glaringly obvious that how could they miss it?
the ACT an WAIS correlate at least at .8.
i’ve already given the studies.
peepee just ignores.
frey and detterman show that the SAT is an IQ test.
peepee just ignores.
sad!
i love oprah so much i can’t stand it!
the ACT an WAIS correlate at least at .8
Among who? Before or after inappropriate applications of range restriction correction
before any application of range restriction.
if peepee feels she’s too familiar with the WAIS she can sit another IQ test.
all those who would line up to give me the WAIS for free can give other IQ tests too.
they can give them to peepee.
but peepee refuses to take them.
sad!
I’ve already taken the wechsler before i was familiar with it. It’s you who has not reported results for a single IQ test. Not one.
You’re offered a $1000 free testing and you’re too scared
what do i expect would happen?
i expect i would score very high. 99th percentile.
but then peepee would say…
“these aren’t as high as your GRE, SAT, GMAT, ACT, etc.”
this is to be expected.
given my previous IQ test scores my expected score would be high, but not as high.
even supposing i scored 150 on the WAIS, peepee would claim this invalidated my previous IQ tests.
sad!
i will sit the WAIS for free when you let me fuck you in your vagina peepee.
that’s my only condition.
that might not be possible given your 300lbs.
sad!
given my previous IQ test scores my expected score would be high, but not as high.
Yes, but the point is the degree of regression is much greater when you go from achievement tests to IQ tests than when you move from one IQ test to another. Typically high SAT people regress an astonishing 50% to the U.S. mean when they take the Wechsler, suggesting a 0.5 correlation. Of course the SAT’s g loading is not necessarily as low as its correlation with the WAIS since not even the WAIS is a perfect measure of g.
even supposing i scored 150 on the WAIS, peepee would claim this invalidated my previous IQ tests.
No, a composite score based on both your WAIS scores and your SATs would be more g loaded than the WAIS alone, if it was weighted properly.
more troof for slant hbd cultists:
the US could conquer n korea in a week with total casualties < 500. and very unlike iraq there's be zero "insurgency".
the n koreans can't deliver nukes by rocket. not yet.
it's easy.
just as bush i (the good bush) was a hero for the first iraq war, trump would be a hero for the n korea war.
just before the first iraq war, soi-disant experts claimed huge casualties for americans.
they didn't appreciate the power of aerial bombardment. especially its power to destroy morale.
the big threat from n korea is its conventional bombardment of seoul.
the US could take that out in the middle of the night in a trice.
kim jong un wouldn't know what hit him.
the lagniappe is that thenceforth and forever koreans will suck american cock, just like the japs. and the chicoms are humiliated.
Reminds of how democrats were cheering when Obama killed Ghaddafi
you Trumpets are so pathetic
Whenever a democrat is in the white house the left support the wars and whenever a republican is in the white house the republicans support the wars.
Anyone who is so easily manipulated by the system has an extremely low genetic intelligence level.
so sad
is it swedish?
something tells me it’s not an indo-eurpean language.
unless maybe it’s s asian.
“Reminds of how democrats were cheering when Obama killed Ghaddafi
you Trumpets are so pathetic”
This. Jimmy has some great ideas. We are pretty similar in our though process. Now Afghanistan? Hmm. Watch. Iran is next. I’ve been calling this for years.
Trump is nothing but a warhawk. Called it years ago. Got called a shill. Well, looks like I was RIGHT.