When I was a young child (I’m now in my 30s), I was VERY conservative, which is odd because I grew up in a liberal household. Usually the children are more liberal than the parents but in my home it was just the opposite, and it created a lot of conflict from a young age.
Because the Ontario media was so obsessed with J.P. Rushton I ended up believing in HBD, but because my family was so liberal, I was very uncomfortable about HBD views, and I wanted to know that there were at least some blacks who didn’t fit the racialist stereotypes.
But sadly, everywhere I looked, the oppressive racialist stereotypes were being fulfilled. From my distorted immature perspective, a lot of black celebrities seemed to fulfill the stereotype that blacks were good at music, dance and sports, rather than more substantive pursuits. Even witty black celebrities like Bill Cosby and Eddie Murphy fulfilled the stereotype of blacks just being clowns there to amuse whites. And gangsta rap was the embodiment of the most violent and sexual of black stereotypes.
And then I started watching Oprah and for the first time in my life, here was a black person who just exuded intelligence and dignity. And while she could be incredibly entertaining, much of the time she discussed serious issues in an articulate way. Despite being fat, she was so dignified in how she carried herself, crossing one obese panty hosed leg over the other with lady-like precision; putting her finger on her chin pensively as she listened to her guests. Despite her chronic overeating, when it came to hair and makeup, she was meticulous. “Word in the ghetto is Oprah got the best hair,” joked Eddie Murphy.
November 1988 Ms. magazine observed:
in a society where fat is taboo, she made it in a medium that worships thin and celebrates a bland, white-bread prettiness of body and personality…But Winfrey made fat sexy, elegant — damned near gorgeous – with her drop-dead wardrobe, easy body language, and cheerful sensuality.

But while my feminine side was admiring Oprah, my masculine side had joined the cadets and this made me extremely homophobic because in the cadets at the time (I’m sure it’s different today), it was taboo for a guy to even touch another guy in any way (not even tapping him on the shoulder) and they were constantly calling one another “fags” and “queers”, and wanting to fit in, I subconsciously internalized this homophobia and became very hostile towards gays.
One afternoon while watching Oprah, the audience was full of male body builders as well as women with very short hair died white. Another show about gays I thought with a sigh.
And Oprah was no longer the fat best friend America had fallen in love with, but a svelte, more militant Oprah.

There was a nerdy conservative intellectual who was very much opposed to gay marriage, arguing that we can’t let gays marry because the definition of marriage is a man and a woman, so if it would be like, the definition of water is H2O, so if we start calling vinegar water, that changes the definition.
“Are you implying that heterosexual is to water and gay is to vinegar?” asked Oprah.
“No of course not,” he huffed condescendingly “that’s just an analogy”.
But the climax of the show was when some redneck woman wearing a cowboy hat stood up in the audience and said “gays are constantly flaunting their gayness and I’m tired of it!”
There was a quiet smattering of applause from the few anti-gay people in the studio audience that day.
And then, in one of the most powerful moments in TV history, Oprah walked right up to her and said “you know what I’m tired of? HETEROSEXUAL MALES RAPING AND SODOMIZING YOUNG GIRLS. THAT’S WHAT I’M TIRED OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
By the time Oprah had finished her sentence, almost the entire audience of gay body builders and bleach white haired lesbians were standing up screaming and applauding hysterically. It was total pandemonium, and one of the most electric things I had ever seen.
Part of the reason the reaction was so enthusiastic was that Oprah seldom gave political opinions in those days, so to hear the World’s most influential woman give one that was so succinct, loud, powerful and graphic, and on behalf of an oppressed minority other than her own, just brought the house down. In that moment, my homophobia was cured.
Later in the show, a black woman stood up and said “I just want to say homosexuality is wrong because God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve”
Emboldened by the pro-gay audience, Oprah cut her off dismissively: “Okay I hear what you’re saying, but I have to move on.”
Unfortunately the nerdy homophobic conservative was not happy with the direction the show had taken and wanted to knock Oprah off her high horse, and sensed his opportunity:
“Oprah who among us, who have been raised by a mother and a father, woud trade that for being raised by two men?”
“But isn’t a child better off there than in a home where there’s abuse?” Oprah replied.
“Oprah, you can’t compare a worst case scenario. Isn’t a child better off there than in a burning building? You could come up with a hundred scenarios. Oprah don’t be absurd!”
Rather than trying to defend an awkward argument, Oprah had the cognitive adaptability to shift gears completely, by saying “I wasn’t trying to absurd, sir”
The tone in her voice made it clear that he had crossed the line, and the nerd walked it back by saying “well, that’s just the way it seemed to me”
Big brained Oprah then cleverly used her power which he did not have, by cutting to commercial break. Intelligence is the cognitive ability to adapt any situation you’re in to your advantage, but part of adapting to a situation is having the lateral quick thinking and executive brain functioning to change the situation into a more favorable one, rather than perseverating on the one you’re in.
A man’s best friend is his mother.
I think they should make a black version of Psycho staring Tyler Perry and Madea as his mother.
Oprah made many disingenuous arguments I’m afraid. Quite aside from doing a CNN on the conservative.
Rather a child raised by two gay men than abused….or enslaved, or made to join the circus….stupid argument.
I’m open to the idea gays can be good parents but the small evidence I’ve seen is that kids raised by gays or lesbians suffer. http://www.charismanews.com/us/48331-kids-of-gay-parents-more-likely-to-suffer-mental-problems-study-shows
Why?
Common sense – it’s unnatural, biologically speaking. The biology and hormones in sxual dymporphia exist for a reason. Otherwise there would be no sexes. Quite aside from the fact that in non-feminine societies, gays are executed or shunned for deeper systemic sorting reasons buy by the Algorithm i.e. everywhere but the West and Southeast Asia.
But Zion’s reality bending means alchemy is alive and well.
I think if there are no worthwhile foster parents available, the kids should be considered to be raised by gays after strict vetting. But you know the kind of child like nature of gays is just a disaster waiting to happen to many of these kids. They’ll be treated like pets or novelty items.
I’m sure kids have had gay fathers in the closet in history. But not open gay parents. Open to been suaded on this.
Dude…. Is this a troll post? This had to be one of the funniest things I’ve server seen in my life.
I’m going to comment in full later, please publish it in the interest of intellectual honesty.
I’ve been publishing all your comments lately.
I’m not sure Pumpkin is all there Race to be honest.
“Michael Jackson was the dancing monkey, and was constantly grabbing his jumbo jungle junk.”
Rushton, Lynn, Gottfredson, Jensen et al: “Don’t use group averages to infer individual IQs.”
“HURRR MJ’S JUMBO JUNGLE JUNK!”
…literally makes no sense.
“Bill Cosby”
….the rapes don’t matter?
“And gangsta rap was the embodiment of the most violent and sexual of black stereotypes.”
Wonder why…
“And then I started watching Oprah and for the first time in my life, here was a black person who just exuded intelligence and dignity.”
To be determined.
“Despite being fat, she was so dignified in how she carried herself, crossing one obese panty hosed leg over the other with lady-like precision;”
People should be confident no matter their somatype. However, she’s been losing the same twenty pounds over and over and over . . .
“Despite her chronic overeating, when it came to hair and makeup, she was meticulous. “Word in the ghetto is Oprah got the best hair,” joked Eddie Murphy.”
In other words: “Care about your outward appearance; your insides do not matter since you cannot see them!” See, peepee, I care about my outward appearance BECAUSE IT HAS A DIRECT EFFECT on my inward appearance and functioning. But I’m small-brained with a 66 IQ, how do I do it?!
And Oprah’s hair is not her own.Speaking of, I may donate some of my locks so someone can have the joy of having nice hair. Hopefully, Oprah doesn’t buy it; she’d look ridiculous. =^)
You should also redo your ‘IQ estimate’ of Oprah in light of this research by Kanazawa:
The negative association between intelligence and BMI or obesity appears so strong that it exists even in some extreme clinical populations with a limited range of BMI. For example, researchers find that, among 141 adolescents (ages 14–17) with
severe obesity (BMI > 40 or BMI > 35 with serious comorbid conditions), BMI is significantly negatively correlated with full-scale intelligence, measured by the Wechsler Abbreviated Scale of Intelligence (r ¼ 0.250, P ¼ 0.005) and its vocabulary subtest (r ¼ 0.245, P ¼ 0.006), though not its matrix reasoning subtest (r ¼ 0.126, ns) [8].
Click to access COEDO2014.pdf
“And Oprah was no longer the fat best friend America had fallen in love with, but a svelte, more militant Oprah.”
You’re showing the ‘progression’ (hey!! progress!!!) of her yo-yo dieting. If she tried a true LCHF diet she’d be in a much better place now…
Oprah is a shill for Big Food. I hate Big Food with a passion. Oprah is a part of the Big Food machine. Oprah is a liar and a thief. USE THE WW DIET AND BECOME THIN!!! PLEASE!
Also see:
^^^ black men with more African ancestry are less likely to be obese; black men have lower rates of obesity than black women. Hmmm…..
There’s way more to HBD than IQ differences. Give this a read, the best review I’ve come across on the subject.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1392.full
I guess the ‘biggest-brained black and biggest brain woman’ couldn’t ‘cognitively adapt herself’ to an evolutionarily novel environment and say ‘no’ to novel and processed foodstuffs. Great ‘ability to adapt, to turn what ever situation you’re in to your advantage. Oprah’s situation is having a genome adapted for a different diet, and being exposed to an environment with novel food items and other things not ancestral to us. THIS IS WHY FIRST-WORLD COUNTRIES ARE SO FAT.
Homo sapiens? Gourmet sapiens is more likely. Diet drives evolution.
Our current environments cause evolutionary mismatches.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19656837
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17152319
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4031802/
Oprah has the best trainers and chefs in the world. You think she cooks for herself? You clearly have no idea what it’s like for the average person. Oprah is so pampered it’s not even funny; other people think for her and cook her food. Sure that makes sure you can focus on other things, but Oprah has an army of the best people in the world to have her lose weight.
Oprah is a lying shill. If she were ‘so smart’ then she’d be able to use her ‘big brain’ to ‘cognitively adapt her situation to her advantage’ and figure out the dieting does not work (<<< that's a logical argument).
Click to access MannTomiyamaAmPsy2007.pdf
Table 1 shows 9 studies in which there were self-reported weights in comparison to a lab weighing. Table 1 also shows that the studies that had the highest percent n in follow-ups had the lower mean weight loss. This obviously suggests that study participants who don’t show a difference in weight don’t show up to follow-ups.
"HETEROSEXUAL MALES RAPING AND SODOMIZING YOUNG GIRLS. THAT’S WHAT I’M TIRED OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”"
Oprah is a fucking moron.
Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia), or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia). [3,6,10,29] The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%). [5,7,10,19,29,30] This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children. [19] Individuals attracted to females usually prefer children between the ages of 8 and 10 years. [3,5,31] Individuals attracted to males usually prefer slightly older boys between the ages of 10 and 13 years. [3,5]
Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts. [15] Bisexual offenders have on average abused 27.3 children and committed more than 120 acts. [15] A study by Abel et al [32] of 377 nonincarcerated, non-incest-related pedophiles, whose legal situations had been resolved and who were surveyed using an anonymous self-report questionnaire, found that heterosexual pedophiles on average reported abusing 19.8 children and committing 23.2 acts, whereas homosexual pedophiles had abused 150.2 children and committed 281.7 acts. These studies confirm law enforcement reports about the serial nature of the crime, the large number of children abused by each pedophile, and the underreporting of assaults. [1] Studies that used self-reports and polygraphs show that pedophiles currently in treatment underreport their current interest in children and past behaviors. [33,34]
http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)61074-4/fulltext
Sure thing, Oprah.
And also see:
28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners
79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers
Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500
1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000
There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity
https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
Sure thing, Oprah.
“By the time Oprah had finished her sentence, almost the entire audience of gay body builders and bleach white haired lesbians were standing up screaming and applauding hysterically. It was total pandemonium, and one of the most electric things I had ever seen.”
They are clearly biased and know nothing of the research. Do you want to see electric? Watch John Cena vs. The Rock at Wrestlemania, their first match. That is electric.
“In that moment, my homophobia was cured.”
Fucking lol. If that ‘cured’ your homophobia, then if you were an intellectually honest man (the jury is still out on that) then you would change your view here.
““But isn’t a child better off there than in a home where there’s abuse?” Oprah replied.”
Why doesn’t Oprah use her ‘big brain’ and research this herself?
This: ““Oprah, you can’t compare a worst case scenario. Isn’t a child better off there than in a burning building? You could come up with a hundred scenarios. Oprah don’t be absurd!”” is a solid retort.
This:
“Rather than trying to defend an awkward argument, Oprah had the cognitive adaptability to shift gears completely, by saying “I wasn’t trying to absurd, sir””
Is literal fucking bullshit.
“The tone in her voice made it clear that he had crossed the line, and the nerd walked it back by saying “well, that’s just the way it seemed to me””
He’s right, though. Why can’t Oprah use her ‘big brain’ to see that she made a fallacious statement?
“Intelligence is the cognitive ability to adapt any situation you’re in to your advantage, but part of adapting to a situation is having the lateral quick thinking and executive brain functioning to change the situation into a more favorable one, rather than perseverating on the one you’re in.”
She did nothing of the sort. She handwaved things away and said literal bullshit. Quick thinking? I guess you can see she used her ‘big brain’ to deflect arguments and handwave things away, but nah. She just speaks about things from emotion without thinking about them logically.
I seriously hope this was a troll post. This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read, and I read a lot.
[vulgarity redacted by PP, feb 17, 2017] are you an intellectually honest man? Since Oprah’s comments on homosexuality (which aren’t based in reality) “cured your homophobia”, did the source I showed change your view on that? Why does Oprah talk out of her ass using her emotions?
It’d be greatly appreciated if you researched some of the thoughts that pop up in your head as you’re writing (as well as provide references to scientific articles). Because I’m kinda embarrassed for you when I read some of the shit you write, which clearly comes off the top of your head with no research into it.
RR, if you want me to respond to your arguments, i strongly advise you to watch your tone when addressing me.
How is asking if you’re intellectually honest a vulgar statement?
That’s now what I was referring to, and from now on, you’re to address me as sir, understood?
I don’t give in to ultimatums. But you’re showing signs of aggression now, good job. For the sake of you answering I will do it, for now.
Sir, are you an intellectually honest man? Did the link I provided change your view on homosexuality since Oprah said something she had no idea about, which had you change your view on it?
Sir, are you an intellectually honest man?
Absolutely
Did the link I provided change your view on homosexuality since Oprah said something she had no idea about, which had you change your view on it?
I will respond later today or this weekend.
I didn’t disagree with most of your facts but i look at it from a different perspective.
Oh excuse me.
Well, pumpkinperson, are you an intellectually honest man? What are your thoughts on the link I provided on homosexual child molesting?
That better?
Try again.
“Oprah is a lying shill. If she were ‘so smart’ then she’d be able to use her ‘big brain’ to ‘cognitively adapt her situation to her advantage’ and figure out the dieting does not work ”
Then what does work for weight loss?
“Is literal fucking bullshit.”
Oh I agree, she’s a lot like bill maher. Neither are logical or intelligent beings, just manipulative. Bill wont actually argue against those he disagrees with he just uses ad hominems and makes the audience laugh. And of course their stupidity leads them into thinking he “won” the debate.
Interestingly, Bill maher seems to be quite fond of generalizations and discrimination when it suits his anti-religious agendas.
Oprah is no different. Instead of not saying the fallacious comment to begin with or at least having a decent rebuttal the best she can do is manipulate her less intelligent crowd. Gays, dykes, overweight black and white women. Her audience is incredibly low IQ. Her head is impressive but her blackness, her overweight body, and the fact that she’s a female will keep her from ever realizing any kind of true potential at least from an intellectual perspective.
“That’s now what I was referring to, and from now on, you’re to address me as sir, understood?”
LMAO the tough act doesn’t suit you pumpkin. Seriously though this is unhealthy. It’s one thing to admire Oprah but why do you go out of your way to defend her obviously ludicrous statements? I’m definitely one of the more tolerant folks here when it comes to homosexuality, but her reasoning could’ve been much better and much more convincing.
If I told you that there was absolutely no scientific basis for homophobia or any kind of anti-homo mentality, and I was able to prove this as well, then why in the hell would you disagree? It has nothing to do with my social ability or Oprahs, just the stupidity of the individuals you are trying to convince. 90% of scientists would applaud my aforementioned statement while nearly all trump supporters would be disgusted. So do I suddenly lack social intelligence or theory of mind because I didn’t regurgitate a world salad sub par enough for all the white trailer trash to understand? Of course not! It’s their own fault in the end.
“I will respond later today or this weekend.”
No rush. Take your time; it’s a lot to take in.
“I didn’t disagree with most of your facts but i look at it from a different perspective.”
I’d love to see your differing perspective and conclusions on my sources.
“Then what does work for weight loss?”
Intermittent fasting with a low-carb, high-fat, moderate protein diet.
IF is how we evolved eating.
Gary Taubes, Dr. Jason Fung, Dr Eades and Dr. Eenfeldt are all the leading names in the LCHF movement.
I recommend googling them if you want more information. It’s where I’ve learned A TON of my information on obesity from.
“Oh I agree, she’s a lot like bill maher. Neither are logical or intelligent beings, just manipulative. Bill wont actually argue against those he disagrees with he just uses ad hominems and makes the audience laugh. And of course their stupidity leads them into thinking he “won” the debate.”
They want low IQ proles who don’t question things and who want to be told how to think. They don’t know what logical fallacies are so that’s why they think they ‘won’. Because their dumbasss audience—like them—think from emotion and not logic.
“Interestingly, Bill maher seems to be quite fond of generalizations and discrimination when it suits his anti-religious agendas.”
Well, at risk of an ad hominem attack, Bill Maher is a Jew, that’s why.
“Oprah is no different. Instead of not saying the fallacious comment to begin with or at least having a decent rebuttal the best she can do is manipulate her less intelligent crowd. Gays, dykes, overweight black and white women. Her audience is incredibly low IQ. Her head is impressive but her blackness, her overweight body, and the fact that she’s a female will keep her from ever realizing any kind of true potential at least from an intellectual perspective.”
I agree. Huge biases abound. It’s like when Jared Taylor destroyed Queen Latiah:
lol. i can’t believe this episode made the cut. He made her look so stupid.
Both bill maher & Oprah are brilliant. Doesn’t mean they’re always right.
“Intermittent fasting with a low-carb, high-fat, moderate protein diet.”
Is it bad if I currently have a high protein, high carb, low fat diet.
“They want low IQ proles who don’t question things and who want to be told how to think. They don’t know what logical fallacies are so that’s why they think they ‘won’. Because their dumbasss audience—like them—think from emotion and not logic.”
Couldn’t of said it better myself.
“Well, at risk of an ad hominem attack, Bill Maher is a Jew, that’s why.”
Lol why would I insult you over that? Are you suggesting his anti islamic rhetoric is due to him being jewish(phenotypically) instead of him being athiest?
“On the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Maher says he is “more on the side of the Israelis” and doesn’t consider both sides equally guilty. He acknowledges that “Palestinians do have gripes,” and he has been critical of U.S. financial aid to Israel, saying “they don’t need our money, they can handle it themselves.” Maher also notes that most Israelis would prefer a two-state solution and oppose the hard-line stance of their Israeli government, which he describes as having been taken over by their version of the Tea Party. However, Maher has defended Israel’s military actions against Palestinian militants amid criticism over civilian deaths and disproportionate casualty count between Israelis and Palestinians. He argues that Israel is still showing restraint, and he finds it ironic that the same people who were incredulous over how the Jews in World War II were led “to their slaughter”, can’t understand why they are defending themselves now”
“I agree. Huge biases abound. It’s like when Jared Taylor destroyed Queen Latiah”
He has a funny voice but he’s well spoken and I agree with him. Not to say i don’t see latiah’s point. If data exists showing that blacks are more likely to commit crime then it’ll start to become a self fulfilling prophecy. Because of that data cops, will instinctually go after blacks more, reinforcing the stereotype while plenty of criminal whites will get away.
“lol. i can’t believe this episode made the cut. He made her look so stupid.”
Right? You could totally sense the saltiness in her responses.
“Both bill maher & Oprah are brilliant. Doesn’t mean they’re always right.”
You’re right it’s unfair for me to say they are stupid. But they are NOT logical. Or at least they don’t argue like it.
PP
“Both bill maher & Oprah are brilliant. Doesn’t mean they’re always right.”
If they were so brilliant, they wouldn’t use logical fallacies and appeal to emotion and stupidity.
Melo
“Is it bad if I currently have a high protein, high carb, low fat diet.”
If you lift it’s fine.
“Lol why would I insult you over that? Are you suggesting his anti islamic rhetoric is due to him being jewish(phenotypically) instead of him being athiest?”
Yup.
The Jews would get decimated if they didn’t have our money and help. This is a fact.
“He has a funny voice but he’s well spoken and I agree with him. Not to say i don’t see latiah’s point. If data exists showing that blacks are more likely to commit crime then it’ll start to become a self fulfilling prophecy. Because of that data cops, will instinctually go after blacks more, reinforcing the stereotype while plenty of criminal whites will get away.”
Arrest rates match up almost perfectly with NCVS data (08, suspisciously when Obama came into office, that’s when they stopped putting the race of the offender in the FBI crime data… hmm….).
“Right? You could totally sense the saltiness in her responses.”
She’s another moron. Another moron is Wendy Williams. That just shows the state of America today.
“You’re right it’s unfair for me to say they are stupid. But they are NOT logical. Or at least they don’t argue like it.”
If they were intelligent, they they would be able to use non-fallacious arguments. They jardly use non-fallacious arguments Therefore, it doesn’t look like they’re too intelligent.
“The Jews would get decimated if they didn’t have our money and help. This is a fact.”
By the palestinians? Well if Lynn is right then israel has about ten points on palestinians so I’m sure that’s why israel tends to kick their ass. Not to say foreign aid is an appropriate investment right now.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614001093
Bill maher was raised by his catholic family, I guess EGI is a powerful thing. I assumed he disliked Islamic religion because of all the terrorism shit going on. He was already an atheist, events like 9/11 just put icing on the cake for him.
“If they were intelligent, they they would be able to use non-fallacious arguments. They jardly use non-fallacious arguments Therefore, it doesn’t look like they’re too intelligent.”
It doesn’t necessarily imply they are less intelligent just less “righteous” and more manipulative.
” By the palestinians? Well if Lynn is right then israel has about ten points on palestinians so I’m sure that’s why israel tends to kick their ass”
When one side has American jets/helicopters/missiles/Satellites and the other guys dont even have planes, of course the jews win.
The jews sent America to fight Iraq because they couldn’t and they want America to fight Iran because they cant.
You are an idiot if you think the jews are capable of surviving without the U.S
We bailed out the jews in 2 wars.
Nixon saved them.
Pat buchanan was there and said so .
The day we cut the money , weapons and support is the day that problem will end very quickly.
The jews are nothing more than glorified gypsies.
“Bill maher was raised by his catholic family ”
So he says…..
He was a crypto-Jew until he was exposed by sites.
He then came out and admitted being a jew.
Same thing for Sam Harris who is the most jewish looking guy on the circuit.
the entire atheist movement is made up of jews and crypto-jews.
I went on one of their sites and posted quotes from the Talmud and i was banned on the spot.
You can not criticize the most vicious religion on the planet.
In other words: “Care about your outward appearance; your insides do not matter since you cannot see them!” See, peepee, I care about my outward appearance BECAUSE IT HAS A DIRECT EFFECT on my inward appearance and functioning.
Good for you, but you shouldn’t be so judgemental towards overweight people, especially when you’re supposedly in the business of helping them.
But I’m small-brained with a 66 IQ, how do I do it?!
By being an ectomorph who was born with a fast metabolism and having no emotional issues because you were never sexually abused (as far as I know).
And Oprah’s hair is not her own.
Actually it is:
You should also redo your ‘IQ estimate’ of Oprah in light of this research by Kanazawa:
The negative association between intelligence and BMI or obesity appears so strong that it exists even in some extreme clinical populations with a limited range of BMI. For example, researchers find that, among 141 adolescents (ages 14–17) with
severe obesity (BMI > 40 or BMI > 35 with serious comorbid conditions), BMI is significantly negatively correlated with full-scale intelligence, measured by the Wechsler Abbreviated Scale of Intelligence (r ¼ 0.250, P ¼ 0.005) and its vocabulary subtest (r ¼ 0.245, P ¼ 0.006), though not its matrix reasoning subtest (r ¼ 0.126, ns) [8].
As Mug of Pee likes to say, you’re confusing statistical significance with practical significance. The negative correlation between IQ and BMI is small, and Oprah’s seldom been exceptionally obese for a woman her age and race and is sometimes thin.
Besides, some of the greatest minds were fat. When Einstein was born, his grandmother couldn’t get over what a fat baby he was. john von Neumann was plump. Steve Wozniak, the genius behind Apple computers is fat as fuck. The list goes on and on.
Oprah is a shill for Big Food. I hate Big Food with a passion. Oprah is a part of the Big Food machine. Oprah is a liar and a thief. USE THE WW DIET AND BECOME THIN!!! PLEASE!
Actually research shows Weight Watchers does a lot of good:
two studies from the Medical Research Council, led by one of Britain’s leading nutrition scientists, say that Weight Watchers really does work, and is a cheap and effective way for the NHS to tackle Britain’s huge obesity problem.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/jul/12/weight-watchers-works-say-scientists
I guess the ‘biggest-brained black and biggest brain woman’ couldn’t ‘cognitively adapt herself’ to an evolutionarily novel environment and say ‘no’ to novel and processed foodstuffs. Great ‘ability to adapt, to turn what ever situation you’re in to your advantage. Oprah’s situation is having a genome adapted for a different diet, and being exposed to an environment with novel food items and other things not ancestral to us. THIS IS WHY FIRST-WORLD COUNTRIES ARE SO FAT.
You’re confusing intelligence with self-discipline. Oprah has the COGNITIVE ability to adapt but lacks the EMOTIONAL self-control, but the fact that she became so rich and influential despite lacking self-discipline and an ideal body makes her accomplishments even MORE impressive, not less.
Oprah has the best trainers and chefs in the world. You think she cooks for herself? You clearly have no idea what it’s like for the average person. Oprah is so pampered it’s not even funny; other people think for her and cook her food. Sure that makes sure you can focus on other things, but Oprah has an army of the best people in the world to have her lose weight.
But she also has the emotional scars of childhood sexual abuse that don’t burden most folks.
Oprah is a lying shill. If she were ‘so smart’ then she’d be able to use her ‘big brain’ to ‘cognitively adapt her situation to her advantage’ and figure out the dieting does not work (<<< that's a logical argument).
Of course, dieting works IF you stick with the diet, and Weight Watcher’s point system gives folks the flexibility to do so. It’s actually your advice of not eating carbs that doesn’t work, because it’s not sustainable long-term in a society where we’re constantly being tempted by fast food advertising and gluttonous friends and family.
“HETEROSEXUAL MALES RAPING AND SODOMIZING YOUNG GIRLS. THAT’S WHAT I’M TIRED OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!””
Oprah is a fucking moron.
Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia), or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia). [3,6,10,29] The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%). [5,7,10,19,29,30] This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children. [19] Individuals attracted to females usually prefer children between the ages of 8 and 10 years. [3,5,31] Individuals attracted to males usually prefer slightly older boys between the ages of 10 and 13 years. [3,5]
That means nothing. The vast majority of sexual abuse victims are female which means that heterosexual males are by far the biggest sexual danger to society, just as Oprah implied, even if they’re less dangerous per capita:
http://www.theadvocacycenter.org/adv_abuse.html
And the gay men who are molesting boys are probably not the OPENLY gay men Oprah was defending, but the closeted sexually repressed ones. By creating a culture where gay men could be more open about their sexuality, Oprah made it less likely that they would prey on boys because they’d be free to find healthy ADULT relationships. Sounds pretty intelligent to me.
She did nothing of the sort. She handwaved things away and said literal bullshit. Quick thinking? I guess you can see she used her ‘big brain’ to deflect arguments and handwave things away, but nah. She just speaks about things from emotion without thinking about them logically.
Her argument wasn’t fallacious at all. She was simply saying that there are scenarios where a child is better off being raised by gays, so a blanket ban on gay adoption is not smart public policy. Since her comment was not taken in the spirit it was intended, she did the smart thing by shifting gears.
“By the palestinians? Well if Lynn is right then israel has about ten points on palestinians so I’m sure that’s why israel tends to kick their ass. Not to say foreign aid is an appropriate investment right now.”
… I’m moving away from using IQ as an explainer for everything (it’s intellectually lazy. Without the US, Israel would get pincered and they would get decimated. What can have a 9 point advantage in IQ (American Jews are smarter by the way) do when your completely surrounded on all sides? Samson Option? You’re dying too if you do that, so what’s the damn point?
“Bill maher was raised by his catholic family, I guess EGI is a powerful thing. I assumed he disliked Islamic religion because of all the terrorism shit going on. He was already an atheist, events like 9/11 just put icing on the cake for him.”
………….>believing the official 911 story
“It doesn’t necessarily imply they are less intelligent just less “righteous” and more manipulative.”
It does to me. An intelligent being recognizes when they make non-arguments. “OH YEA!!??!??!? WELL YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING BECAUSE YOU’RE A VIRGIN!!” Imagine that being said in a debate. Would you say that that is an intelligent being?
“Good for you, but you shouldn’t be so judgemental towards overweight people, especially when you’re supposedly in the business of helping them.”
Sorry that you took my comment that way, because that’s not what I meant at all.
You said she cares about her outward appearance. She clearly doesn’t. She’s been yo-yoing for years. She cares about her hair and the like, but not her body—the main thing people see first. My outward appearance has a direct effect on how my insides function. I get blood tests and DXA scans every three months to make sure I am fine. If Oprah cared so much about her appearance then she’d do what she could to lose weight (I do believe that it is possible to be healthy at any size however).
“By being an ectomorph who was born with a fast metabolism and having no emotional issues because you were never sexually abused (as far as I know).”
Top kek.
I was not sexually abused. I have no emotional issues. Just a huge deck stacked against me.
PP, I was born into a pretty poor family. I went to a shit high school. But everyone in my family is driven and has made something of themselves. So my success is explained by my somatype and fast metabolism? Not my widerange of knowledge in my field—how does IQ 66 RR do it!
“Actually it is:”
Has it always been?
“As Mug of Pee likes to say, you’re confusing statistical significance with practical significance. The negative correlation between IQ and BMI is small, and Oprah’s seldom been exceptionally obese for a woman her age and race and is sometimes thin.”
….if the negative correlation between IQ and BMI is small (-.25) then the positive correlation between IQ and income should be hardly any better at .33!!
Are you saying that because she’s, let’s say, ‘midway’ between superobese and obese?
“Besides, some of the greatest minds were fat. When Einstein was born, his grandmother couldn’t get over what a fat baby he was. john von Neumann was plump. Steve Wozniak, the genius behind Apple computers is fat as fuck. The list goes on and on.”
You know only science sways me; not anecdotes.
“Actually research shows Weight Watchers does a lot of good:”
>muh ww
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/why-is-america-turning-away-from-weight-watchers-because-its-hard-work
Lost money, even with the ‘biggest brained black’ on the board of advisors. And, excuse my French, what the FUCK does Oprah know about dieting? Aside from the Jab to Dr. Atkins (RIP to a great man), this article is OK. America doesn’t want WW.
Check out the ‘recipe of the day’ from ww, from Dr. Eenfeldt:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/weight-watchers-must-be-joking
Main ingredient: chocolate cupcake mix! Keep eaten ‘dem carbs der!!
Weight watchers focuses on weight, not health.
https://www.drfuhrman.com/learn/library/articles/46/weight-watchers-focuses-on-weight-not-health
Recall the links I’ve shown stating that it’s perfectly possible to be fat and healthy.
But Oprah LOVES bread. She’s never been on a true low-carb diet.
Oprah literally tried ONE ‘low-carb’ diet. She called the authors of the book she read and asked if she could still eat macaroni and cheese. …. they said yes. …..
…….
IDIOTS. That is NOT a low carb diet.
https://proteinpower.com/drmike/2008/12/09/oprahs-plight/
Why doesn’t Oprah have the ability to delay her gratification? You may then say emotional trauma, but you don’t know that.
Weight Watchers s GARBAGE and I can’t wait until they die. They don’t want results for people, they want money first and formost. Oprah affiliating herself with this garbage company shows her true colors.
“You’re confusing intelligence with self-discipline. Oprah has the COGNITIVE ability to adapt but lacks the EMOTIONAL self-control, but the fact that she became so rich and influential despite lacking self-discipline and an ideal body makes her accomplishments even MORE impressive, not less.”
????? Dude, people with higher IQs can forgo food items longer than people with lower IQs. >lacks self-control
People like to see emotional things on a major cable network. I don’t see what’s impressive about that.
“But she also has the emotional scars of childhood sexual abuse that don’t burden most folks.”
I was talking about how she could lose weight. People do her thinking for her. This is a fact. You think she cooks her meals? lol
“Of course, dieting works IF you stick with the diet, and Weight Watcher’s point system gives folks the flexibility to do so. It’s actually your advice of not eating carbs that doesn’t work, because it’s not sustainable long-term in a society where we’re constantly being tempted by fast food advertising and gluttonous friends and family.”
HOLYYYYY SHIT
1) WW point system is GARBAGE and people do not understand it. What the fuck can some idiotic and abstract point system do for how the body actually processes macronutritents?
Read this paper man.
Click to access MannTomiyamaAmPsy2007.pdf
Dieting DOES. NOT. WORK.
Watch this video.
Read this book.
How wrong can you be? I wonder why Oprah didn’t have Dr. Aamodt’s book on her stupid little book club. Can’t show a different narrative—the truth!!
I do my part and point people to this book whenever I see them in the diet section of BnN. Read the book PP. Read the paper. Watch the video. If you had even a small understanding of how the human body worked then you’d get that DIETING DOESN’T WORK.
Stick to HBD dude.
“That means nothing. The vast majority of sexual abuse victims are female which means that heterosexual males are by far the biggest sexual danger to society, just as Oprah implied, even if they’re less dangerous per capita:”
>handwaved away data
nice
“And the gay men who are molesting boys are probably not the OPENLY gay men Oprah was defending.”
So we have to make distinctions: “No, no. SHE was talking about OPENLY gay men, NOT THE ONES IN THE CLOSET!”
wut?
“By creating a culture where gay men could be more open about their sexuality, Oprah made it less likely that they would prey on boys because they’d be free to find healthy ADULT relationships. Sounds pretty intelligent to me.”
….Yet they still prey on little boys. This was not a response to the data from Mayoclinic.
“Her argument wasn’t fallacious at all. She was simply saying that there are scenarios where a child is better off being raised by gays, so a blanket ban on gay adoption is not smart public policy. Since her comment was not taken in the spirit it was intended, she did the smart thing by shifting gears.”
Changing the conversation and what is being spoken about because you literally got taken to school is hilarious.
“I wasn’t trying to sound absurd” well that was absurd.
Gays should not be able to adopt children.
When compared with outcomes for children raised by an “intact biological family” (with a married, biological mother and father), the children of homosexuals did worse (or, in the case of their own sexual orientation, were more likely to deviate from the societal norm) on 77 out of 80 outcome measures.
http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
Ouchhh…..
You said she cares about her outward appearance. She clearly doesn’t.
No i didn’t RR, i said she made fat dignified & attractive because her hair, makeup & wardrobe were first class. She’s on TV & she has people to do this for her.
She’s been yo-yoing for years. She cares about her hair and the like, but not her body—the main thing people see first.
She was adaptable enough to succeed despite being fat & even use her fat to her advantage by bonding with millions of people in the same struggle
PP, I was born into a pretty poor family. I went to a shit high school. But everyone in my family is driven and has made something of themselves. So my success is explained by my somatype and fast metabolism? Not my widerange of knowledge in my field—how does IQ 66 RR do it!
You and Oprah were both born poor & attended crappy schools but you were blessed with a fit body & a male gender. Despite this, Oprah became the World’s most worshipped & influential billionaire while you merely became a low status trainer earning five figures a year.
Oprah can adapt.
Has it always been?
Most of the time.
….if the negative correlation between IQ and BMI is small (-.25) then the positive correlation between IQ and income should be hardly any better at .33!!
1) the correlation between LIFETIME income (when you exclude housewives) is closer to 0.5
2) your BMI is only a bit lower than Oprah’s if we control for age & race. Yet Oprah’s financial success is TEN THOUSAND times greater than yours, & her impact on the culture is unparalleled.
Lost money, even with the ‘biggest brained black’ on the board of advisors.
It lost money because the product is so good it generated tons of competition from other companies pushing the same concept; eating into their market share.
Weight watchers focuses on weight, not health.
Losing weight automatically makes you healthier if you’re extremely obese because your heart doesn’t need to work as hard. It’s also not realistic to deprive fat people of comfort food when many have been emotionally dependent on it their whole lives.
You simply don’t understand the psychology of food addiction.
Why doesn’t Oprah have the ability to delay her gratification?
Because she gets incredible pleasure from food.
Weight Watchers s GARBAGE and I can’t wait until they die.
I just cited two scientific studies proving weight watchers works. Are you too intellectually dishonest to concede you’re wrong?
Dude, people with higher IQs can forgo food items longer than people with lower IQs. >lacks self-control
It’s not that simple RR. Intelligence is the cognitive ability to advance your goals, but fat people have conflicting goals that are often impossible to adapt to no matter how smart they are: they want to eat comfort food all the time but they also want to be thin. That’s an unsolvable problem regardless of IQ. You simply can’t do both & delaying gratification just makes you miserable
People like to see emotional things on a major cable network. I don’t see what’s impressive about that.
People also like to be in shape & yet you make only 5 figures a year. It’s impressive that Oprah made billions in her field & you can’t even make a single million in yours,
I was talking about how she could lose weight. People do her thinking for her. This is a fact. You think she cooks her meals? lol
People would cook for you too if you were successful enough to afford a cook
WW point system is GARBAGE and people do not understand it. What the fuck can some idiotic and abstract point system do for how the body actually processes macronutritents?
You’re missing the point RR. It’s just a simple way of counting calories & getting people to eat more veggies since they’re zero points.
Dieting DOES. NOT. WORK.
I just cited two scientific studies showing weight watchers works
Watch this video.
Read this book.
All you do is bombard people with more links than anyone has time to look at, instead of responding to the fact that two studies prove weight watchers works
So we have to make distinctions: “No, no. SHE was talking about OPENLY gay men, NOT THE ONES IN THE CLOSET!”
She was responding to the complaint that gays are too open about their gayness. Oprah’s point was why are we so upset about gays flaunting their gayness when the much bigger problem is straight men raping girls.
Yet they still prey on little boys. This was not a response to the data from Mayoclinic.
There are far more girls raped by straight men than boys raped by gay men
Changing the conversation and what is being spoken about because you literally got taken to school is hilarious.
Oprah got him to walk back his claim that she was being absurd which was a smarter strategy than getting into a long drawn out debate about a controversial topic.
Gays should not be able to adopt children.
That’s stupid RR. There are plenty of great gay parents & many kids desperate for a home.
When compared with outcomes for children raised by an “intact biological family” (with a married, biological mother and father), the children of homosexuals did worse (or, in the case of their own sexual orientation, were more likely to deviate from the societal norm) on 77 out of 80 outcome measures.
Those are average differences. They don’t apply in every case .
By the way, Jared Taylor said that whites are more likely to be serial killers. He’s wrong. Blacks are.
“The day we cut the money , weapons and support is the day that problem will end very quickly.
The jews are nothing more than glorified gypsies.”
Yes, as an actual country they can demolish Palestinians. With or without our help.
“I’m moving away from using IQ as an explainer for everything (it’s intellectually lazy.”
That’s ridiculous, very rarely is any factor the single causation of an event. Especially within social science and biology. IQ is the most accurate measure of intelligence thus far besides actual comparisons of brain matter. Intelligence happens to be a broad application, so it would make sense to suggest it as determining factor in regards to tasks like war that require long term planning and prediction.
“What can have a 9 point advantage in IQ (American Jews are smarter by the way) do when your completely surrounded on all sides? Samson Option? You’re dying too if you do that, so what’s the damn point?”
Well apparently smart enough to coerce support from the most powerful country on the planet and then literally steal land, while decimating the original inhabitants. With equal technology, the jews still win assuming they aren’t bombarded with hordes of sand people.
““OH YEA!!??!??!? WELL YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING BECAUSE YOU’RE A VIRGIN!!” Imagine that being said in a debate. Would you say that that is an intelligent being?”
But they don’t actually say that. They just hand wave arguments and change the subject. They aren’t stupid dude, they’re just saving face.
“Yes, as an actual country they can demolish Palestinians. With or without our help.”
Without our help they’d get swarmed by the Arabs. They need us.
“That’s ridiculous, very rarely is any factor the single causation of an event.”
Of course. But IQ isn’t a cause; the world is more complex than that.
“IQ is the most accurate measure of intelligence thus far besides actual comparisons of brain matter.”
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0025532
“Intelligence happens to be a broad application, so it would make sense to suggest it as determining factor in regards to tasks like war that require long term planning and prediction.”
So do you think you can boil down all of human history to ‘This society had a higher IQ than that society, therefore that’s why this society beat that society’?
“Well apparently smart enough to coerce support from the most powerful country on the planet and then literally steal land, while decimating the original inhabitants. With equal technology, the jews still win assuming they aren’t bombarded with hordes of sand people.”
They would be bombarded with hoardes of sand people. Equal technology? Have you any idea what we do for them?
They get 3 billion dollars a year from us:
http://ifamericaknew.org/stat/usaid.html
They’re getting 38 billion over ten years from us.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-israel-statement-idUSKCN11K2CI
We give them tons of weapons too. They’d get destroyed without our help.
“But they don’t actually say that. They just hand wave arguments and change the subject. They aren’t stupid dude, they’re just saving face.”
Oprah’s comparison was fallacious.
“By the way, Jared Taylor said that whites are more likely to be serial killers. He’s wrong. Blacks are.”
I’m skeptical. The definition of serial killer implies that more blacks will be in jail for the crime and be labeled as such but the psychopathy, and ruthlessness we usually associate with famous serial killers is all white. A black gang member who kills multiple people over time will be considered a serial killer despite not having mental issues besides stupidity itself.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4141717?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
“To address this issue, a meta-analysis of differences between these groups’ scores on the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R;Hare, 1991) was performed, using 21 studies (N = 8,890) of correctional, substance abuse, and psychiatric samples. Blacks exceeded Whites by an average of less than 1 point on the PCL-R total score.”
“Gays should not be able to adopt children.
When compared with outcomes for children raised by an “intact biological family” (with a married, biological mother and father), the children of homosexuals did worse (or, in the case of their own sexual orientation, were more likely to deviate from the societal norm) on 77 out of 80 outcome measures.”
http://www.livescience.com/17913-advantages-gay-parents.html
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-14-635
“Of course. But IQ isn’t a cause; the world is more complex than that.”
No offense, but you’re giving me the impression that you do not know what IQ is or at least, do not have a good concept of it. The complexity of the world is precisely why measurements of IQ exist. It’s a correlation to intellectual efficiency just as CBF is. Blood flow to the brain is something I and other users have mentioned before, so I don’t know how it invalidates my points.
“So do you think you can boil down all of human history to ‘This society had a higher IQ than that society, therefore that’s why this society beat that society’?”
When it comes to war, I think it is reasonable to assume intelligence is a valuable asset. What is so crazy about that?
“Equal technology? Have you any idea what we do for them?”
You misread my comment. I didn’t say they had equal technology, they don’t. If they did, they would still crush Palestinians specifically, not the entire sector of Islamic-antisemitic ideology and extremism.
Israel needs us because they are basically surrounded with enemies.
“Oprah’s comparison was fallacious.”
Yes and so was yours. Though yours was less severe and understandably not detected .as easily.
“Israel needs us because they are basically surrounded with enemies. ”
and why is that our problem?
if you were in Africa and you saw a pack of lions hunt down an Elephant, would you jump in and shoot the lions ?
As for your point about the Palestinians you are clearly ignorant of real world realities.
if we couldn’t defeat the Iraqi insurgents and had to pay off the locals to control their sons, then how could the cowardly jews defeated a Palestinian insurgency?!
if We couldn’t defeat Afghan insurgents in 15 years then how the hell could the jews defeat a Palestinian insurgency ?!
No nation, in modern history, has ever defeated insurgents waging asymmetrical warfare.
If the U.S couldn’t do it with a military budget of over $1 trillion then how the hell could the jews?
Clearly you drank the kool aide when it comes to the jews. You have been brainwashed by the jewish media into thinking that they are superhumans who are capable of doing what even the U.S/Russia couldn’t do.
The middle east is none of our damn businesses. We need to walk away and let nature take its coarse.
“I’m skeptical. The definition of serial killer implies that more blacks will be in jail for the crime and be labeled as such but the psychopathy, and ruthlessness we usually associate with famous serial killers is all white. A black gang member who kills multiple people over time will be considered a serial killer despite not having mental issues besides stupidity itself.”
lol
The FBI’s current definition is two murders and no reference to motive and timeframe.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shadow-boxing/201304/defining-serial-killer-so-much-confusion
Are we using official definitions here? I’ll check for that pdf later.
>gay parents
>parent-reported measures
hahaha
“No offense, but you’re giving me the impression that you do not know what IQ is or at least, do not have a good concept of it. The complexity of the world is precisely why measurements of IQ exist. It’s a correlation to intellectual efficiency just as CBF is. Blood flow to the brain is something I and other users have mentioned before, so I don’t know how it invalidates my points.”
lol OK
My point is to say that IQ is an explainer for everything is lazy. As I said, I’m moving away from pen and paper tests. And any IQs over 150 are bullshit.
To say that IQ itself is a cause for why people win most or all wars is a lazy thing to do, wouldn’t you say?
“When it comes to war, I think it is reasonable to assume intelligence is a valuable asset. What is so crazy about that?”
Would you say that for all of human history? I wouldn’t. Again, it’s lazy. “A was higher IQ than B, that’s why A won. B was too stoopeed.” I’m not saying it’s not a valuable asset but it seems like a copout to say that it explains a lot or everything.
“You misread my comment. I didn’t say they had equal technology, they don’t. If they did, they would still crush Palestinians specifically, not the entire sector of Islamic-antisemitic ideology and extremism.”
Who knows. I think they’d have the tables turned on them. And Hamas is Mossad anyway. Do you know a lot of what goes on over there?
The point is the Jews would get decimated without our help and aid. I’m not just talking about Palestine. They’d get swarmed and decimated. They NEED US.
“Yes and so was yours. Though yours was less severe and understandably not detected .as easily.”
My virgin statement? I know it was and I wasn’t saying it to anything, it was an example.
“and why is that our problem?”
It’s not. Why do you think it is?
“As for your point about the Palestinians you are clearly ignorant of real world realities.
if we couldn’t defeat the Iraqi insurgents and had to pay off the locals to control their sons, then how could the cowardly jews defeated a Palestinian insurgency?!”
That seems contradictory. Jews can’t defeat palestinians because their technology would be subpar without the help of the US, but the US has the proper technology yet can’t get the job done themselves? How is the US helping jews, if the US can’t even help themselves.
“No nation, in modern history, has ever defeated insurgents waging asymmetrical warfare.
If the U.S couldn’t do it with a military budget of over $1 trillion then how the hell could the jews?”
Most of america’s wars have not been overseas. America’s military is also useless against the kind of guerilla warfare terrorists practice.
“You have been brainwashed by the jewish media into thinking that they are superhumans who are capable of doing what even the U.S/Russia couldn’t do.”
Jews do not advertise themselves as superhuman in fact, jews are a common object of humiliating humor, in a lot of liberal media.
“The FBI’s current definition is two murders and no reference to motive and timeframe.”
That just reinforces my point. It doesn’t take mental health or anything into actual consideration and simply asserts that blacks have higher psychopathy off of face value- information.
The study I posted showed that blacks literally have not even 1 point over than whites on the PCL score, despite the fact that blacks commit a higher proportion of violent crimes like murder. In fact the worst white crimes will tend to be white collar ones, which require high levels of social manipulation and psychopathy. Blacks commit petty crimes like thievery and even when they murder the intent, and mentality behind it is usually not as reasoned, or “evil” as somebody like jeffrey dahmers would be. You can’t argue that most notorious serial killers were not intelligent.
Something you need to realize is that logic and balance does not always equal intelligence. You and I are more or less in this for attainment of knowledge and understanding the world around us the best way we can. Others may not view the world like this, but it has little to do with intelligence and more with their priorities and values. Hypothetically i could have the potential to be an actor, a talk show host, or a lawyer but if I don’t have an interest in any of those things and find those tasks to be boring, or pointless for me then I am not going to pursue them.
http://technical.ly/delaware/2015/03/27/litecure-ceo-brian-pryor-scientists-make-best-ceos/
“>gay parents
>parent-reported measures
hahaha”
Alright Oprah, don’t start hand waving my assertions. I just gave you a lot of data especially the first live science link in my previous post.
Click to access family_board.pdf
http://www.livescience.com/6073-children-raised-lesbians-fine-studies-show.html
http://www.livescience.com/2534-sex-couples-common-wild.html
Plenty of links and references to scientific studies. Have fun.
“To say that IQ itself is a cause for why people win most or all wars is a lazy thing to do, wouldn’t you say?”
Not at all actually. You may have worded your question wrong I think you meant to say:
“To say that IQ itself is a MAJOR cause for why people win wars is a lazy thing to do, wouldn’t you say?”
Saying IQ is at least one driver of history is a factual statement, saying it is the biggest cause in all cases is not.
IQ doesn’t explain most of history or how most countries came to power, but when two countries are pitted against each other IQ is probably a factor.
You might like this link. It explains european dominance without the need of IQ or Jared diamond’s geographical determination.
Click to access conquest1nocode1.pdf
Tell me if that link doesn’t work.
“Do you know a lot of what goes on over there?”
Not really, then again i don’t care lol. I just know that:
1. jews hate palestines
2. palestines hate jews
3. We back jews
4. Jews have a higher IQ than palestines.
5. Israel kicks palestine’s ass.
“My virgin statement? I know it was and I wasn’t saying it to anything, it was an example.”
No, I mean how you used it. I know you were comparing it to Oprah’s argument but that comparison was fallacious itself, because what you said was nowhere near as nuanced or sneaky as what she did. It was just abrasive and not a good example of what she did.
You are hilarious.
“No i didn’t RR, i said she made fat dignified & attractive because her hair, makeup & wardrobe were first class. She’s on TV & she has people to do this for her.”
OK you got me there. And now you’re getting it. She has people do this for her—like most things in her lift.
“She was adaptable enough to succeed despite being fat & even use her fat to her advantage by bonding with millions of people in the same struggle”
This is bullshit. If she were able to ‘use her cognitive ability to adapt’ to an obesogenic environment then she would be able to stay thing as well as stay away from evolutionary novel food items.
“You and Oprah were both born poor & attended crappy schools but you were blessed with a fit body & a male gender. Despite this, Oprah became the World’s most worshipped & influential billionaire while you merely became a low status trainer earning five figures a year.”
I love how you’re reducing my success to my fit body and gender. How many other males with fit bodies aren’t in the position that I’m in now? I’m happy with my life now and I’m only getting more successful. I don’t care about Oprah ‘being worshipped’, I care about helping people lose weight—something that Oprah’s shitty WW campaign won’t do.
“1) the correlation between LIFETIME income (when you exclude housewives) is closer to 0.5”
Still need to explain 75 percent of the variance. Got a source for that?
“2) your BMI is only a bit lower than Oprah’s if we control for age & race. Yet Oprah’s financial success is TEN THOUSAND times greater than yours, & her impact on the culture is unparalleled.”
Good for her. I don’t really care. And prove your assertion. My BMI is 21.5 (I don’t care about BMI as a measurement though).
“It lost money because the product is so good it generated tons of competition from other companies pushing the same concept; eating into their market share.”
Citation needed.
This is bullshit and you know it.
“Losing weight automatically makes you healthier if you’re extremely obese because your heart doesn’t need to work as hard. It’s also not realistic to deprive fat people of comfort food when many have been emotionally dependent on it their whole lives.”
Do you know what successful weight loss is defined as? Ten percent weight loss and maintaining that weight loss for one year. See Wing and Hill (2005). A ten percent loss will have one be healthier. Any more than that is extremely hard to lose (see links in previous comment).
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/222S.long
“You simply don’t understand the psychology of food addiction.”
Fucking lol. PP, how many people with anorexia, bulimia or an overeating disorder have you worked with in your life? Who the hell are you telling this to? You love talking out of your ass.
If you want to understand the psychology of food addiction, read this book.
You’re talking out of your ass about a field you know nothing about. You’re talking about a field that I just so happen to have literal experience in. You’re talking about things that I’ve literally experienced with the people I’ve worked with in my life.
“Because she gets incredible pleasure from food.”
Can’t delay her gratification?
“I just cited two scientific studies proving weight watchers works. Are you too intellectually dishonest to concede you’re wrong?”
haha. nice one. You won’t get me to concede that. You literally have no understanding of human physiology.
Calories in/out implies that during extended caloric restriction no matter the type of kcal (fat, CHO, protein, alcohol, except when alcohol is ingested your body puts fat storage on hold until all alcohol is metabolized from the body. You can see how wiith chronic drinkers as they are obese a lot of the time, with there being a strong link between alcoholism and obesity as there are numerous pathways related with each other that lead to excessive eating as well as dependence on alcohol and other drugs) ingested, as long as caloric restriction is continued that weight (fat) loss will be achieved. CICO adherents say that “a calorie is a calorie”, but what’s funny with that statement is that is violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Naturally, to CICO adherents since “a calorie is a calorie”, kcal would be restricted from fat since it’s the most calorie dense macro (alcohol coming in second at 7 kcal per gram). By doing this, CHO will be increased, as is recommended by all of the ‘experts’. “Increase CHO, fat leads to CD!!!” This isn’t true, that’s another reason for cutting fat, the supposed ‘increased risk of heart disease”. However, when this occurs, insulin is spiked and when insulin is spiked the body doesn’t use the fat stores for energy it uses the glucose from the carbs.
Putting this all together, let’s say someone’s TDEE is 2000 kcal per day (for a 14k kcal per week average) and they reduce it to 1200 kcal and go on a LFHC diet like is commonly recommended. Insulin remains high and therefore fat cannot be tapped into. This is due to the CICO mantra (which violates the 2nd LoT) “a calorie is a calorie” that leads people to believe that all calories are ‘equal’ in terms of hormonal responses in the body. Let’s take a piece of bread and a teaspoon of olive oil. When you eat the piece of bread, insulin is spiked in response to the glucose from the carbohydrate. When you drink the olive oil, it’s immediately absorbed by the liver eliciting no insulin spike. Clearly, with a long term LFHC diet, this will consistently occur and the body will be continuously using CHO for energy and not the fat stores as insulin is continuously spiked in the body. Insulin either tells the body to store fat or not burn it for energy. Eventually, over time, this leads to insulin resistance (however, insulin resistance may precede obesity and diabetes) and more metabolic problems amongst a myriad of other variables.
As kcal is reduced to 1200 per day, the body is forced to match its metabolism to what your intaking as it can’t get energy from anywhere else since “a calorie is a calorie”. This happens during any calorie restricted diet and is why diets are doomed to fail. This same thing happened with The Biggest Loser contestants. Notice how The First Law of Thermodynamics isn’t broken? It’s irrelevant.
See how the mantra “a calorie is a calorie” violates the Second law of thermodynamics and fails because the CICO model doesn’t take insulin into the equation, which is a causal factor with obesity?
Get out of here with your unresearched bullshit. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
“You simply can’t do both & delaying gratification just makes you miserable”
Now you’re getting it. Dieting makes people miserable.
Still, that’s a strike against her due to less blood flow to her brain.
“People also like to be in shape & yet you make only 5 figures a year. It’s impressive that Oprah made billions in her field & you can’t even make a single million in yours,”
You needn’t worry about my earning potential, I just landed a solid position in a great company. So don’t worry about me.
“People would cook for you too if you were successful enough to afford a cook”
No. I enjoy cooking my own meals. You don’t understand my lifestyle PP.
“You’re missing the point RR. It’s just a simple way of counting calories & getting people to eat more veggies since they’re zero points.”
Calorie counting assumes that a kcal is a kcal. A kcal is NOT A KCAL.
Saying that ‘a calorie is a calorie’ violates the second law of thermodynamics.
https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2891-3-9
Do you violate the second law of thermodynamics?
“I just cited two scientific studies showing weight watchers works”
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about. Read my explanation above. Read the study by Mann et al. You don’t know a thing about human physiology. You’re wrong.
“All you do is bombard people with more links than anyone has time to look at, instead of responding to the fact that two studies prove weight watchers works”
Because you’re literally spewing bullshit. How the hell do you think that you showing me two linkes to studies showing me that ‘WW works’ will have me think that dieting works? You didn’t read the study I linked you. Dieting doesn’t work.
Since it seems you like news articles and not journal articles, read this.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA-Researchers-7832
You literally know nothing about this research so don’t think two measly shill links ‘proving’ that WWs works will sway me. I know about how the human body works and I know that thermodynamics doesn’t apply to biological systems.
“She was responding to the complaint that gays are too open about their gayness. Oprah’s point was why are we so upset about gays flaunting their gayness when the much bigger problem is straight men raping girls.”
Gays rape more than straight people.
“There are far more girls raped by straight men than boys raped by gay men”
Source?
“Those are average differences. They don’t apply in every case .”
They shouldn’t have children on principle. What’s next?! Let’s legalize pedophilia right! We need to be progressive!!
Please.
The slippery slope is not a fallacy; it’s real and it’s happening.
RR, stop filibustering and admit that you’re wrong.
The research is clear: the sky is blue, the grass is green & weight watchers works.
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.popsugar.com/fitness/Does-Weight-Watchers-Work-42935967/amp?client=safari
And they agree with you that a calorie is not a calorie so they consider several other factors when alloting points:
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.popsugar.com/fitness/Does-Weight-Watchers-Work-42935967/amp?client=safari
I am sorry that you have wasted your life.
“That just reinforces my point. It doesn’t take mental health or anything into actual consideration and simply asserts that blacks have higher psychopathy off of face value- information.”
I use the official definition. Are you saying we should only say one is a serial killer if there is only a mental deficiency?
“Something you need to realize is that logic and balance does not always equal intelligence.”
Logical reasoning comes from the PFC
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2738354/
The seat of the g factor is the PFC.
Click to access Newman_Sternberg-chapt-2005-intelligence.pdf
Click to access 00b7d51bc7dc0e7168000000.pdf
“Alright Oprah, don’t start hand waving my assertions. I just gave you a lot of data especially the first live science link in my previous post.”
Why should I take parent-reported data? “Yes, he’s fine!!!” Meanwhile, he’s really not.
That’s not handwaving.
>same-sex couples common in the wild
Naturalistic fallacy.
Are grades the only life outcomes worth measuring?
“Saying IQ is at least one driver of history is a factual statement, saying it is the biggest cause in all cases is not.”
I agree with that. I know some people (ahem) would say that IQ is the main driver.
Thanks for the link. I’ll get through it when I have time. I don’t think IQ has as large of an effect as you may think in regards to war.
Read this.
Click to access KanazawaPaper.pdf
Like Jimmy said, we should keep our noses out of the Jews’ business.
“No, I mean how you used it. I know you were comparing it to Oprah’s argument but that comparison was fallacious itself, because what you said was nowhere near as nuanced or sneaky as what she did. It was just abrasive and not a good example of what she did.”
Meh. Whatever.
“RR, stop filibustering and admit that you’re wrong.”
I am not wrong. I have an actual understanding of human physiology—you don’t.
“This is how SmartPoints work, in budgeting terms (and according to the site): in terms of value, calories “set the baseline” for how much the food is “worth,” while protein makes the food cheaper (fewer points, meaning it’s healthier and you can have more), and saturated fat and sugar make that food more expensive.”
If you don’t exercise while dieting and eat a high protein diet, the excess protein turns to fat:
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/how-much-protein-is-excessive/
“”The daily SmartPoints target is based on age, gender, height, and weight to help them determine how much they need to eat each day to lose weight at a safe rate — about one to two pounds per week,””
Can you tell me what a ‘safe rate’ is pp?
“Another reason it works is because you’re not cutting out food groups — Foster noted this as one of the key reasons Weight Watchers is so effective. Who could forget Oprah’s love for bread and her overzealous, unbridled joy when she told commercial audiences nationwide that she can eat bread on Weight Watchers? “Members can personalize the program to meet their needs, and everything is on the menu — no food is off limits,” said Foster.”
The types of people that use WWs need to learn discipline. Allowing things on diet days that are not diet foods will lead to a non-compliance. Setting aside one day a week to eat (sensibly) what you’d like is better for the average, non-gym going person. That’s what leads to success. The other option—the WW option—leads to non-compliance. But what the hell do I know?
And you don’t know anything about insulin’s effects on the body PP.
Insulin inhibits the breakdown of fat in the adipose tissue by inhibiting the lipase that hydrolyzes (the chemical breakdown of a compound due to a reaction with water) the fat out of the cell. Since insulin facilitates the entry of glucose into the cell, when this occurs, the glucose is synthesized into glycerol. Along with the fatty acids in the liver, they both are synthesized into triglycerides in the liver. Due to these mechanisms, insulin is directly involved with the shuttling of more fat into the adipocyte. Since insulin has this effect on fat metabolism in the body, it has a fat-sparing effect. Insulin drives most cells to prefer carbohydrates for energy. Putting it all together, insulin indirectly stimulates the accumulation of fat into the adipose tissue.
Mmmmm keep eating that bread Oprah!
Wow, anecdotes—it works for some people. How long do they keep the weight off? How much weight do they lose?
You don’t know a thing about physiology. You don’t know a thing about the bodyweight set-point. Why do you think Oprah yo-yos all the time? Because of the bodyweight set-point.
There is a specific bodyweight set point which the body attempts to maintain at all times through homeostasis. For 99 percent of people, dieting does not work. You don’t understand body fat regulation. You just assume “eat less+move more=lost weight”. Nope. The human body is a lot more complicated than that. See my previous comment to you.
Does the first law of thermodynamics apply to biological systems, pp?
“I am sorry that you have wasted your life.”
….What? Don’t fucking tell me that I’ve wasted my life. You literally don’t know a thing about the research I’m showing you, nor do you understand it. So don’t think that just by providing me two links means that I’m going to say that dieting works—you literally don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Yes i don’t know anything about nutrition & apparently neither do the platoon of scientists who have endorsed weight watchers.
But RR is an expert because he’s been able to maintain that ectomoroh physique he was born with. What an accomplishment.
“RR, stop filibustering”
lol.
“I use the official definition. Are you saying we should only say one is a serial killer if there is only a mental deficiency?”
All I’m saying is that white criminals and maybe whites in general are more psychopathic than blacks. A gangbanger who shoots more than 1 person is usually not who you think of when someone says the term “serial killer” but yes going by the literal definition blacks, are more likely to be serial killers.
“Are grades the only life outcomes worth measuring?”
“Logical reasoning comes from the PFC”
I know, You’re mistaking the ability to use logic with actually having logical thoughts. Not everyone has taken a logic class or studied philosophy like you and I. The average person does not think like that.
“Why should I take parent-reported data? “Yes, he’s fine!!!” Meanwhile, he’s really not.
That’s not handwaving.
>same-sex couples common in the wild
Naturalistic fallacy.
Are grades the only life outcomes worth measuring?”
But that wasn’t the only study. The live science mentioned plenty of scientific studies that were more than just self reports, I could post even more. You’re cherrypicking which ones to rebuttal. It’s not a fallacy because I am not claiming it is morally acceptable or socially desirable. I am just stating it is not unnatural. Kids with better grades will probably have better outcomes in success than ones who do not. If Homosexuals and lesbians are just as capable at raising intellectually functional adults then there is no logical reason to even give a flying fuck. If children of gay parents are more likely to be depressed or whatever then it’s probably due to bullying and discrimination.
“lol.”
Yes, lol. PP’s handwaving and appeals to authority when he has no idea what he’s talking about are hilarious.
“All I’m saying is that white criminals and maybe whites in general are more psychopathic than blacks. A gangbanger who shoots more than 1 person is usually not who you think of when someone says the term “serial killer” but yes going by the literal definition blacks, are more likely to be serial killers.”
….because people believe (wrongly) that white men are more likely to be serial killers. It’s the same with child molesting; blacks are more likely to be molestors.
“I know, You’re mistaking the ability to use logic with actually having logical thoughts. Not everyone has taken a logic class or studied philosophy like you and I. The average person does not think like that.”
The average person should think like that.
The Regenerus study I linked showed that on most large outcomes they were opposite of other normally raised children.
“If children of gay parents are more likely to be depressed or whatever then it’s probably due to bullying and discrimination.”
I will change my view on this with a robust study. I will admit that it’s scientific—but for my own morals I would still lobby against it.
Yes, lol. PP’s handwaving and appeals to authority when he has no idea what he’s talking about are hilarious.
Hate to break it you RR but we’re LOLing at you, not with you, big guy.
As for appeals to authority, that’s called citing sources. Something you used to be obsessed with until the research proved you wrong
Dude, show me how the research proved me wrong. Do me a favor and read that paper my Mann et al on dieting and get back to me. Because you literally have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m well read on this literature. You clearly are not.
You literally are clueless about this field and yet are still attempting to argue against me. That is the definition of hilarious.
Dude, show me how the research proved me wrong.
Here it is again:
When it comes to weight loss, people may be better off following the commercial diet program Weight Watchers, rather than relying on guidance from their primary care doctors.
According to a new study published in the journal Lancet, overweight and obese adults who used Weight Watchers for a year lost twice as much weight as people who got weight-loss advice from their doctors.
For the study, researchers randomly assigned 772 overweight or obese participants from Germany, Australia and Britain to either a Weight Watchers program or a plan guided by a primary care doctor. The Weight Watchers group got a free 12-month membership and access to weekly meetings; the primary care group was asked to attend monthly weight-loss sessions with their doctor at the office.
Overall, about 87% of participants were women and the average age of the entire study group was 47. At the start of the study, the volunteers’ average body mass index (BMI) was 31; overweight is defined as having a BMI of 25 or higher, and obesity is defined as having a BMI 30 or higher.
By the end of the year, the Weight Watchers group had lost an average 11.1 lbs., more than twice the 5 lbs. lost on average by those in the primary care group. The Weight Watchers members also managed to lower their fasting insulin and their cholesterol levels more than the doctor-guided dieters.
Of course, there are a few caveats: for one thing, the people who followed the Weight Watchers program didn’t have to pay for their memberships. The diet plan can cost members nearly $500 a year in the U.S., which puts it out of reach for many. Also, the study was funded by Weight Watchers, but that’s not so unusual — all major commercial diet plans fund their own studies. And, finally, about 40% of the study’s participants dropped out before the year was up.
Still, the results were pretty impressive: people in the Weight Watchers group were three times more likely to lose at least 10% of their initial body weight, compared with the primary care group. If you count only those who stuck it out for the yearlong study, people doing Weight Watchers lost 14.6 lbs., compared with 7.2 lbs. for those following their doctors’ advice.
Let me know when you want me to take you to school again pp. Your answers were horrible. You didn’t address anything. You’re clueless when it comes to dieting. Admit it pp. This isn’t IQ tests. This is about the human body. My forte. Somewhere you are clueless. Your retorts to my human biology knowledge sucked, try again.
Let me know when you want me to take you to school again pp.
I certainly don’t want to be taken to your school. No learning went on there.
Your answers were horrible. You didn’t address anything. You’re clueless when it comes to dieting. Admit it pp. This isn’t IQ tests. This is about the human body. My forte. Somewhere you are clueless. Your retorts to my human biology knowledge sucked, try again.
LOL! You sound a like 10-year-old.
No learning went on beyond didn’t read any of the links I provided. You didn’t read what I wrote to you about calories and dieting. You literally are clueless when it comes to human physiology. I can teach you a lot about this but you’re too stubborn.
Yes, I sound like a ten year old. So if I sound like a ten year old then it should be easy for you to give some nice retorts to all of my comments that you didn’t reply to.
You don’t know a thing about human biology and nutrition. You and Robert Lindsay are clueless on obesity. Read the two articles I wrote last night if you want a real clue, pp. Because you’re literally clueless here.
You don’t know a thing about human biology and nutrition.
I don’t need to know anything. I’m debating you.
Here pp. Get a command of this literature like I have. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re literally clueless here and are only opposing me here because Oprah endorsed a garbage system. But I know about dieting and how the human body works and reacts to low kcal dieting. Something you do not know about.
Do me a favor and read some of those links o provided you on dieting and get a clue about what I’m talking about. I know you didn’t read them because you replied immediately. How about trying to be a bit more intellectually honest here pp. Because you are not. I know you didn’t read that short 8 page paper on dieting. You say I bombard you with links, but you literally have no idea what you’re talking about here which is why you need to read those links. You want to learn more? Well dieting doesn’t work and I gave you the right resources to get started. If you want to stay ignorant to the truth just because Oprah endorsed some garbage system, that’s on you. But you’re only showing your intellectual dishonesty by believing that.
This is my literal field pp. You cannot holt a candle to me here.
“Yes, lol. PP’s handwaving and appeals to authority when he has no idea what he’s talking about are hilarious.”
“Hate to break it you RR but we’re LOLing at you, not with you, big guy.”
Oh how I love it when my bitches fight over me lmao. Seriously though I wasn’t agreeing with anyone I just thought pumpkins filibuster joke was humorous. I don’t even know what you guys are arguing about. Something to do with weight watchers?
” It’s the same with child molesting; blacks are more likely to be molestors.”
That’s not true either though.
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/70-of-convicted-child-molesters-are-white-75-of-victims-are-girls/26215183/
http://childprotection.lifetips.com//cat/63573/sex-offender-statistics/index.html
Click to access SOO.PDF
Proportionately blacks molest more but something that should be noted is that there is a difference in the required mentality for molesting women 14-17 than than there is for girls under 13. I would speculate that blacks commit more of the former while whites commit the latter. I was 18 banging out freshmen, and blacks are very promiscuous.
Also What about the fact that there is entire child sex slave industry in asia? Especially places like japan where child porn is basically legal. Not to mention all the white business man who fly over to such countries specifically to have sex with underage children.
Does it not bother you that blacks are proportionately arrested more despite not having any psychological properties below whites? Are blacks just too stupid to not get caught? OR is there a huge racial discrimination against blacks?
“The Regenerus study I linked showed that on most large outcomes they were opposite of other normally raised children.”
If you’re talking about the first study you posted then no. All it said was the lesbian and gay families tend to financially worse off and that the children have a higher chance of mental issues that could lead to criminal behavior. But as I said Discrimination probably has a huge affect on homo sexual children and their parents. Being homo is honestly worse than being black in america. You and I both know for a fact how Homophobic kids are especially in rural towns. Where I lived there was a gay kid who was held down and penetrated with an iron bar for just simply being gay. No lube, nothing. The way gays are treated in america is ridiulous
“but for my own morals I would still lobby against it.”
What’s immoral about it? Are you a Christian too? God damnit.
“When it comes to weight loss, people may be better off following the commercial diet program Weight Watchers, rather than relying on guidance from their primary care doctors”
Hahaha. Buddy, don’t you know that all diets “work” for about a year or two then the weight comes back on? You didn’t. I’d love to see a nice followup in 5 years. I know what the outcome would be.
Forty percent dropped out. Good job!
“Still, the results were pretty impressive: people in the Weight Watchers group were three times more likely to lose at least 10% of their initial body weight, compared with the primary care group. If you count only those who stuck it out for the yearlong study, people doing Weight Watchers lost 14.6 lbs., compared with 7.2 lbs. for those following their doctors’ advice.”
Ten percent of bodyweight lost is why is termed success weight loss according to Wing and Hill 2001, a guideline set by them. It used to be 20 percent, then ten percent, then 5 and not ten percent weight loss and maintaining that for one year is successful weight loss. That’s how hard dieting is due to physiology, but you wouldn’t know that because you didn’t read any of the links I provided.
” If you count only those who stuck it out for the yearlong study, people doing Weight Watchers lost 14.6 lbs., compared with 7.2 lbs. for those following their doctors’ advice.”
What’s that, five to ten percent weight loss? That’s normal for diet studies. Now we need to wait for follow ups. I’ll spoil it for you: it will be horrible and it’ll be just like all the other diet studies.
Leibel finds that metabolic suppression persists in dieters who have kept weight off for one to six years, so he scoffs at claims that the successful weight loss story disproves his ideas. “If you talk to people who’ve done it – not the studies, but people who actually manage to lose weight and keep it off – they’ll tell you what I’m telling you,” he says: that the only way to achieve this goal was to allow themselves to be hungry all the time while increasing their physical activity substantially. Indeed, his point is supported by data on the eating and exercise habits of people listed in the National Weight Control Registry, who have lost at least thirty pounds and kept it off for one year. A calorie calculator says that Dennis Asbury should have needed 2,100 calories to maintain his weight at 150 pounds, but instead he found that he needed to eat 400 to 500 calories less than that. Such metabolic suppression is the difference between being within the defended range and being below it. Many people blame others for eating too much or exercising too little, assuming incorrectly that both are under voluntary control, but it’s much harder to justify holding people responsible for diet-induced changes in the way the body burns energy.” (Aamodt, 2016, pg. 68)
Ouchhhh…
Hahaha. Buddy, don’t you know that all diets “work” for about a year or two then the weight comes back on? You didn’t. I’d love to see a nice followup in 5 years. I know what the outcome would be.
If the people stay in weight watchers of 5 years, I suspect the follow up will be even more impressive.
Forty percent dropped out. Good job!
60% stayed in.
Ten percent of bodyweight lost is why is termed success weight loss according to Wing and Hill 2001, a guideline set by them.
Did you read the quote? people in the Weight Watchers group were three times more likely to lose at least 10% of their initial body weight, compared with the primary care group.
Leibel finds that metabolic suppression persists in dieters who have kept weight off for one to six years, so he scoffs at claims that the successful weight loss story disproves his ideas. “If you talk to people who’ve done it – not the studies, but people who actually manage to lose weight and keep it off – they’ll tell you what I’m telling you,” he says: that the only way to achieve this goal was to allow themselves to be hungry all the time while increasing their physical activity substantially.
So he admits he’s basing this on anecdotes, not studies. And if they were really feeling that hungry, they wouldn’t be able to maintain it for 6 years. Is there a way to lose weight without feeling hungry much of the time?
Indeed, his point is supported by data on the eating and exercise habits of people listed in the National Weight Control Registry, who have lost at least thirty pounds and kept it off for one year. A calorie calculator says that Dennis Asbury should have needed 2,100 calories to maintain his weight at 150 pounds, but instead he found that he needed to eat 400 to 500 calories less than that.
Oh poor babies. They could only have three Big Macs a day instead of four. Oh the sacrifice!
“I don’t need to know anything. I’m debating you”
Cute. Now address my comments. I know that I know more about this than you do. I have a command of this literature, you don’t. This isn’t hbd. This isn’t IQ. This is human physiology and metabolism. Something you’re ignorant on.
See pp. You don’t know what adaptive thermogenesis is. This is why dieting is next to impossible.
RESULTS: TEE, NREE, and (to a lesser extent) REE were significantly lower in the Wt(loss-sustained) and Wt(loss-recent) groups than in the Wt(initial) group. Differences from the Wt(initial) group in energy expenditure were qualitatively and quantitatively similar after recent and sustained weight loss.
CONCLUSION: Declines in energy expenditure favoring the regain of lost weight persist well beyond the period of dynamic weight loss.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18842775
CONCLUSION: Weight loss results in adaptive thermogenesis, and there is no indication for a change in adaptive thermogenesis up to 1 y, when weight loss is maintained.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23535105
Get your unscientific ass outta here pp. You’re literally clueless about this. Stick to iq and hbd because you’re ignorant to this research.
One last thing to prove my point.
At the start of the show the average RMR was 2,607 +/-649 kcal per day, falling to 1,996 +/- 358 kcal per day at the end of the 30-week competition. Only one maintained weight loss after the 6 years and l regained weight as well as more fat that they bad previously (shocking, I know). The mean rate dropped to 1,996 +/- 358 per day with the researchers noticing that those who lost the greatest amount of weight had the biggest metabolic slow down. Despite then regaining their weight, their metabolic rate was 1,903 +/- 466 kcal per day.
Based on individual weights, the researchers concluded they were burning around 500 kcal less than would be expected of people that size. The one who lost the most weight, Danny Cahill, was burning 800 less kcal than a man his size who has never been obese.
This is not the only study showing this. Numerous other studies show that the body matches metabolism to how much one is ingesting. This is what the hawks at WW don’t tell you.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oby.21538/full
You’ll have no reply at all for this. Dieting does not work.
Based on individual weights, the researchers concluded they were burning around 500 kcal less than would be expected of people that size. The one who lost the most weight, Danny Cahill, was burning 800 less kcal than a man his size who has never been obese.
Makes sense to me. People who have to diet to be thin obviously have slower metabolisms (on average) than people who are naturally thin. What’s your point RR?
“What’s your point RR?”
Read my most recent comments on adaptive thermogenesis and dieting. Then read the Aamodt quote. Then use your big brain and put 2 and 2 together.
Actually my hat size is only average RR, so simply tell me your point. Do you even have one?
This is where RR’s 66 IQ becomes obvious. He’s excellent at doing research and citing sources, but you ask him a simple question like “what’s your point?” and suddenly you can hear crickets chirping. “What’s your point?” is a very g loaded question because it requires abstract reasoning and thought organization, and not simple regurgitation.
And as you can see, the adaptive thermogenesis did not go away after even six years!!
Give it up pp. You don’t know what you’re talking about here.
“If the people stay in weight watchers of 5 years, I suspect the follow up will be even more impressive.”
Lol nah. You’d see how wrong our were If you’d have read Mann et al 2007.
“60% stayed in.”
They dropped out because they didn’t lose weight nd probably gained more back. That’s the thing abkht diet studies. It’s very skewed because people who don’t lose weight don’t report for the followup.
“Did you read the quote? people in the Weight Watchers group were three times more likely to lose at least 10% of their initial body weight, compared with the primary care group.”
Yes I did and I know. The percent weight loss and keeping it off for one year is successful. However, if you’d have read the meta analysis of 17 diet studies, you’d see that people lie about their weight and the truth gets found out during lab weighing.
Can you tell me if there was a lab weighing or were the weights self-reported? That’s something we need to know.
“So he admits he’s basing this on anecdotes, not studies.”
Therws a point. And you missed it.
The 9nky way to maintain any weight loss for an extended period of time is to be hungry all the time and constantly exercise. Due to adaptive thermogenesis, they can’t eat what a person their current weight and who’s never been obese could.
That quotation was in response to Wing and Hill’s National Weight Control Registry. They have a registry of over 500 people who be kept weight off. And in the literature, that’s what gets cited as success. However, if you talk to the people who have kept the weight off and not look at just the data, they’ll tell you how miserable it is to keep the weight off. This is due to adaptive thermogenesis. Dieting destroys metabolisms. In a study done on girls from 8th grade to senior year, those who fitted EVEN WHEN THEY WERE THIN git fat by their senior year of high school. That shows the type of metabolic damage that occurs after dieting.
“And if they were really feeling that hungry, they wouldn’t be able to maintain it for 6 years. ”
Those are the” strongest willed people” who do that. Results are dismal for everyone else. Talk to the people and not look at just data, and that’s what they’ll tell you.
“Is there a way to lose weight without feeling hungry much of the time?”
Low carb, high fat, moderate protein. Carbs spike your insulin levels making you hungry sooner. Fat and protein sate you longer. People who are on low carb diets burn more kcal at rest than on the regular high carb diet that’s pushed for weight loss (because people are idiots and think a calorie is a calorie. Saying that I’d fallacious, see the link on the second law of thermodynamics I posted yesterday).
“Oh poor babies. They could only have three Big Macs a day instead of four. Oh the sacrifice!”
Here is where you show your ignorance. That’s not the point here. People need to eat less than someone their current weight that’s never been obese. This is why Mr. Cahill gained all. His weight back and then some. Because your battling your body’s biology.
“Actually my hat size is only average RR, so simply tell me your point. Do you even have one?”
Aw I’d figure someone of your stature would wear a size 20 hat.
People get fat. They want to get thin. Fighting their own biology and metabolism, some people do it. However, when they lose weight their metabolism slows. This is bad. Their metabolism then adapts to their current diet, it adapts to how much kcal is being consumed. Then, let’s say one loses 100 pounds. They’re hungry all the time and constantly exercising. For what? To be miserable?
And here’s the kicker, buddy. You love the brain soooo much. However your brain doesn’t know the difference between being obese and nonobese. So when you begin to lose weight your body panics thinking that there is no food. Then your body releases hormones to make you eat more and blunts your satiety hormones forcing you to eat more.
This is reality. This is what the literature shows. This is why dieting doesn’t work.
Lol nah. You’d see how wrong our were If you’d have read Mann et al 2007.
I don’t doubt that people regain the weight they lost on diets in five years, but I suspect that’s because they get off their diet after hitting their goal weight, not realizing it’s a life long struggle. That’s why the type of support groups and education weight watchers provides is especially useful.
They dropped out because they didn’t lose weight nd probably gained more back. That’s the thing abkht diet studies. It’s very skewed because people who don’t lose weight don’t report for the followup.
Or maybe they weren’t losing weight because they weren’t sticking to the program, or maybe they just got busy with work and family commitments, or maybe they lost so much weight so fast that they felt they no longer needed support. You can dismiss any long-term health study by speculating about the people who drop out, including studies claiming exercise is healthy.
Yes I did and I know. The percent weight loss and keeping it off for one year is successful. However, if you’d have read the meta analysis of 17 diet studies, you’d see that people lie about their weight and the truth gets found out during lab weighing.
I suspect the weight was measured not self-reported
The 9nky way to maintain any weight loss for an extended period of time is to be hungry all the time and constantly exercise. Due to adaptive thermogenesis, they can’t eat what a person their current weight and who’s never been obese could.
Feeling somewhat hungry is not that bad. We evolved to feel hungry or we’d never have been motivated to hunt or grow the food we needed to survive. Cutting carbs as you recommend makes you feel “tired, lightheaded, headachy, and nauseated”, and with few carbs in your system “you may even have trouble concentrating. According to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, the human brain requires the equivalent of 130 grams of carbohydrate a day to function optimally—and that’s a minimum.”
http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/
Dieting destroys metabolisms.
Cutting carbs like you recommend is even worse for your health:
When your body breaks down lean body mass—muscle—for energy, your metabolism slows because muscle tissue burns up a lot of calories. This may be one reason that the weight often comes back after you’ve been shunning carbs for a while.
The effects on your heart are also questionable. Especially if you switch to a high-saturated-fat diet, as people do when they start eating their fill of steak and bacon, your “bad” LDL cholesterol will go up. Levels of homocysteine, an amino acid that increases the risk of heart disease, may also rise if you eat a lot of meat and too few vegetables. And to get rid of the ketones produced when your body burns fat for energy, your kidneys need to work overtime, which raises your risk of kidney stones.
Ironically, low-carb diets may even interfere with insulin sensitivity; a certain amount of carbohydrate in your diet may be needed in order for the pancreas, which produces the insulin that keeps blood sugar in check, to work well.
http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/
In addition, cutting carbs like you recommend causes folks to miss out on nutritious food like fruits and vegetables, beans, low fat dairy food, fiber, vitamins, minerals, and health-protective plant chemicals. Denying people these healthy meals puts them at risk for cancer, heart disease and stroke.
And “once you stop eating bread, fruit, and beans, it’s all too easy to eat too many fatty animal foods. After all, how many foods can you take out of your diet?”
http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/2/
Not only that RR, but the low carb weight loss doesn’t last: Two major studies of low-carb diets, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, looked at obese men and women who stuck with either a low-carb, high-fat diet or a low-fat, high-carb diet. Both diets were low in calories.
In one study, which lasted six months, the low-carb diet seemed to win hands down. The people on it lost nearly 13 pounds (6 kg); the low-fat dieters shed just 4 pounds (2 kg). But the second study lasted six months longer, revealing a truth about low-carb diets: The results don’t last. This study too found that the low-carb dieters lost more weight in the first six months, but in the second half of the year, the weight came roaring back. By the end of a year, there was no significant difference in weight loss between the two groups. This weight “snapback” may be one reason that extremely low-carb diets have fallen out of favor.
http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/2/
So while you’re right that dieting may make you feel hungry and slow your metabolism, the low carb diet you recommend is much worse. This is simply the price you have to pay to lose weight and there’s no way to get around it. But Weight Watchers is superior to low carb diets because you don’t have to deprive yourself the foods you love and the carbs that are essential for health, mood, and mental alertness.
“This is where RR’s 66 IQ becomes obvious. He’s excellent at doing research and citing sources, but you ask him a simple question like “what’s your point?” and suddenly you can hear crickets chirping. “What’s your point?” is a very g loaded question because it requires abstract reasoning and thought organization, and not simple regurgitation.”
You’re a trip. I addressed it. There are a whole slew of comments of mine that your big brain didn’t address because you’re ignorant to this research.
So I told you my reasoning and thought process. Now let’s see if you can respond without appealing to authority. Mr. Big brain.
In the interest of informing the relevant parties reading this discussion, I’ll provide one quote from Mann et al 2007:
In sum, prospective nonrandomized studies do not provide support for the effectiveness of diets in leading to sustained weight loss. In only 1 of these 10 studies did dieting prospectively predict weight loss, and in the majority of studies dieting predicted weight gain.
…
There has been a considerable amount of research comparing individuals’ self-reported weights to their scale measured weight, but most of that work was not conducted with obese individuals or with individuals who were participating in weight loss programs. A meta-analysis of 15 studies comparing individuals’ self-reported weight with their scale measured weight located only two studies of participants in weight loss programs that reported sufficient information to be included in the meta-analysis (Bowman & DeLucia, 1992). Participants in the 15 studies significantly underestimated their weight by approximately 2.1 kg (4.6 lb). More extreme bias (underestimates of 3.7 kg [8.2 lb]) was found when considering just the studies of individuals in weight loss programs, although these conclusions should be considered tentative as there were only two such studies. Nevertheless, it is important for researchers to use scale measured weights as often as possible and to be aware that the use of self-reported weights will bias studies toward making diets look more effective than they are.
Click to access MannTomiyamaAmPsy2007.pdf
Take a look at table 1.
OK so I just read the study you cited; great study. Great methodology. Though some problems: 1) This is only one year. Read Mann et al 2007 to see what’ll happen as the years progress. 2) They self-reported visits to their primary care doctor rather than the researchers getting the data themselves and confirming the number of visits. 3) They didn’t omit people with diabetes from any of the cohorts. That’s a pretty big confound with how weight will fluctuate due to insulin intake. 4) In the discussion they said that weight loss in the LOOK AHEAD study (I’ll go into that below) and the Diabetes Prevention Program had higher mean weight loss. But here’s the funny thing: what they tried to prevent with the weight loss intervention did not occur. They ended the study at 11 years—earlier than expected—because it was futile to continue because heart attacks, stroke, and cardiovascular deaths. Big names in this field were stunned at the result; one said that we “have to have an adult conversation about this, this was a negative result.”
So what they’re trying to prevent with the WWs study won’t work… Hmmm….
Click to access 10.1016%40s0140-6736%2811%2961344-5.pdf
There is the study.
It’s a great study. Solid design. I like it. But what you need to understand is that this is only one year. Studies like this have been done before; the outcome is the same. So much so that it’s beginning to become futile to do so.
All in all, you may look at this study as a success; and clinically speaking it is. But you don’t know anything about this research so you can’t point these things out. You need to look at the preponderance of data and that will show you what will occur at the end.
Read Mann et al 2007. Read The Biggest Loser Study. You’re wrong.
“I don’t doubt that people regain the weight they lost on diets in five years, but I suspect that’s because they get off their diet after hitting their goal weight, not realizing it’s a life long struggle. That’s why the type of support groups and education weight watchers provides is especially useful.”
Not at all. It’s due to biology. Your brain doesn’t know the difference between obese and nonobese. When in an extended caloric deficit for a long amount of time, your body releases the hormones ghrelin, leptin, Neuropeptide Y, cholecystokinin—hunger and satiety hormones. Your body ups production of hunger hormones and blunts production of satiety hormones until you get back to the set weight—what the brain is used to.
Support groups? Get me some long-term data on WW ‘success’.
“Or maybe they weren’t losing weight because they weren’t sticking to the program, or maybe they just got busy with work and family commitments, or maybe they lost so much weight so fast that they felt they no longer needed support. You can dismiss any long-term health study by speculating about the people who drop out, including studies claiming exercise is healthy.”
That’s still a strike against it. Exercise IS healthy, but just because people don’t want to do it doesn’t mean it’s not healthy. There is a genetic basis for exercise too.
I know what to look for while reading these types of studies. This study you linked to has a solid methodology, I love the design. But you need to look at why people dropped out as well. Though they did say in the paper that they chose a large sample because they knew there would be a high drop-out rate.
“I suspect the weight was measured not self-reported”
Never assume. Always check yourself.
The weight was measured at facilities.
“Feeling somewhat hungry is not that bad. We evolved to feel hungry or we’d never have been motivated to hunt or grow the food we needed to survive.”
Correct.
But spending extended time in a caloric deficit has your brain think it’s starving and then what I described above with the hormones occurs.
“Cutting carbs as you recommend makes you feel “tired, lightheaded, headachy, and nauseated””
lol
This occurs while you get adjusted to a new eating schedule.
“and with few carbs in your system “you may even have trouble concentrating.”
Bullshit. I write up reports for my clients in the middle of two day fasts. My concentration while I’m carb-depleted is sky-high.
“According to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, the human brain requires the equivalent of 130 grams of carbohydrate a day to function optimally—and that’s a minimum.””
Look up the term ‘ketosis’. The brain can run on ketones when glycogen stores are depleted.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874681/
“When your body breaks down lean body mass—muscle—for energy, your metabolism slows because muscle tissue burns up a lot of calories. This may be one reason that the weight often comes back after you’ve been shunning carbs for a while.”
Hahaha. Who wrote this?
The weight ‘comes back’ after you’ve been ‘shunning carbs for a while’ because for each gram of CHO you ingest your body sucks in 4 grams of water. Piranha personal trainers use this as an advantage to the ignorant perso “WOW!! Look at your weight loss this past two weeks, good job!” But that stalls soon.
“The effects on your heart are also questionable. Especially if you switch to a high-saturated-fat diet, as people do when they start eating their fill of steak and bacon, your “bad” LDL cholesterol will go up. Levels of homocysteine, an amino acid that increases the risk of heart disease, may also rise if you eat a lot of meat and too few vegetables. And to get rid of the ketones produced when your body burns fat for energy, your kidneys need to work overtime, which raises your risk of kidney stones.”
Saturated fat does not cause heart disease. Re: this meta-analysis.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract
Man, thanks for that laugh!
“Ironically, low-carb diets may even interfere with insulin sensitivity; a certain amount of carbohydrate in your diet may be needed in order for the pancreas, which produces the insulin that keeps blood sugar in check, to work well.”
In overweight women, a diet with less than 10% of calories as carbs improved insulin sensitivity, while a 30% fat, low-fat diet reduced it. In obese, insulin-resistant women, both high-fat and high-protein low-carb diets reduced insulin resistance, while the high-carb diet was not as effective.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-eating-low-carb-cause-insulin-resistance/
Thanks for another laugh.
“In addition, cutting carbs like you recommend causes folks to miss out on nutritious food like fruits”
Processed carbs cause more insulin spikes. Natural carbs have a good amount of fiber, which protects against obesity. Fiber also sates you. I don’t really reccommend people eat fruits.
“beans”
Beans are outstanding. Tons of fiber. Though if you’re a non-gym goer you shouldn’t eat too many as your insulin will spike.
“fiber, vitamins, minerals, and health-protective plant chemicals.”
Natural carbs are fine; processed carbs are not.
“And “once you stop eating bread, fruit, and beans, it’s all too easy to eat too many fatty animal foods. After all, how many foods can you take out of your diet?””
What’s wrong with animal fat? Nothing. The point is to get rid of **processed carbs**.
“but the low carb weight loss doesn’t last”
I know that.
This is where intermittent fasting comes into play but that’s a whole ‘nother ballgame.
“The results don’t last. This study too found that the low-carb dieters lost more weight in the first six months, but in the second half of the year, the weight came roaring back. By the end of a year, there was no significant difference in weight loss between the two groups. This weight “snapback” may be one reason that extremely low-carb diets have fallen out of favor.”
Yup. But it’s not why LCHF has ‘fallen out of favor’ (lol). It’s because dieting does not work.
The point with LCHF diets is that it’s easier to be sated if you eat high fat and mod protein. Fat and protein sate you way more than CHO.
“the low carb diet you recommend is much worse.”
No it is not. People get sated on LCHF diets. Check these two blogs out (run by MDs).
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/
https://www.dietdoctor.com/
“But Weight Watchers is superior to low carb diets because you don’t have to deprive yourself the foods you love and the carbs that are essential for health, mood, and mental alertness.”
No it is not.
This was too easy.
Not at all. It’s due to biology. Your brain doesn’t know the difference between obese and nonobese. When in an extended caloric deficit for a long amount of time, your body releases the hormones ghrelin, leptin, Neuropeptide Y, cholecystokinin—hunger and satiety hormones. Your body ups production of hunger hormones and blunts production of satiety hormones until you get back to the set weight—what the brain is used to.
And the low carb diet you endorse subverts this process how? A major reason low carb diets work is that eating fewer carbs makes you less hungry, causing you to eat fewer calories, so both diets require a caloric deficit, but the difference is, low carb diets are not as sustainable as Weight Watchers:
In a recent Harvard University study of 322 dieters, only 78% of those on low-carb plans stuck with their diet over the long term (up to two years), while nearly 90% of those on a high-carb diet were still going strong after two years.
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html/view-all#low-carb-diets-are-not-sustainable–0
This occurs while you get adjusted to a new eating schedule.
Actually no, it lasts indefinitely which is why people don’t stick to these diets:
A recent study by Australian researchers, published in the Archives of Internal Medicine, followed 106 dieters for a year. Half ate a carb-rich diet. The others followed a low-carb diet.
After a year, the carb eaters felt happier, calmer, and more focused than the carb-deprived group, who reported feeling stressed out. The reason for this? Carbs boost mood-regulating, stress-reducing chemicals in the brain, and high-protein, fatty foods may deplete them, says Grant Brinkworth, PhD, the lead researcher of the study.
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html/view-all#low-carb-diets-make-you-feel-sad-and-stressed-
Bullshit. I write up reports for my clients in the middle of two day fasts. My concentration while I’m carb-depleted is sky-high.
A sample of one person proves nothing.
The weight ‘comes back’ after you’ve been ‘shunning carbs for a while’ because for each gram of CHO you ingest your body sucks in 4 grams of water. Piranha personal trainers use this as an advantage to the ignorant perso “WOW!! Look at your weight loss this past two weeks, good job!” But that stalls soon.
Wrong again RR!
The stress and depression low-carb dieters feel eventually derails their best efforts to stay slim.
That’s because stress produces high levels of hormones, like cortisol, that boost your appetite and lead to bingeing, says obesity expert Elissa Epel, PhD, an associate professor at the University of California, San Francisco Department of Psychiatry
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html/view-all#low-carb-diets-make-you-fatter-not-thinner-
Saturated fat does not cause heart disease. Re: this meta-analysis.
Medical, scientific, heart-health, governmental and intergovernmental, and professional authorities, such as the World Health Organization,[2] the American Dietetic Association,[3] the Dietitians of Canada,[3] the British Dietetic Association,[4] American Heart Association,[5] the British Heart Foundation,[6] the World Heart Federation,[7] the British National Health Service,[8] the United States Food and Drug Administration,[9] and the European Food Safety Authority[10] advise that saturated fat is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, and recommend dietary limits on saturated fats as one means of reducing that risk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat_and_cardiovascular_disease_controversy
I am pleasently surprised that you responded.
“And the low carb diet you endorse subverts this process how?”
REE is higher on low-carb diets than high-carb diets. Fat and protein sate you more, CHO makes you hungrier sooner. Seriously man, learn what insulin does in the body.
“A major reason low carb diets work is that eating fewer carbs makes you less hungry, causing you to eat fewer calories, so both diets require a caloric deficit, but the difference is, low carb diets are not as sustainable as Weight Watchers:”
……I deal with Big Food shills like you all the time PP.
The other two macros are also more sating than CHO. This is what you don’t get. A kcal is NOT a kcal (re: Feinman and Fine, 2004).
WWs pushes things with chocolate cake mix as the main recipe…. lol man…just…. lol
“http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html/view-all#low-carb-diets-are-not-sustainable–0”
…..You know I read the book The Carb Lover’s Diet, right?
“In a recent Harvard University study of 322 dieters, only 78% of those on low-carb plans stuck with their diet over the long term (up to two years), while nearly 90% of those on a high-carb diet were still going strong after two years.”
“A recent study by Australian researchers, published in the Archives of Internal Medicine, followed 106 dieters for a year. Half ate a carb-rich diet. The others followed a low-carb diet.
After a year, the carb eaters felt happier, calmer, and more focused than the carb-deprived group, who reported feeling stressed out. The reason for this? Carbs boost mood-regulating, stress-reducing chemicals in the brain, and high-protein, fatty foods may deplete them, says Grant Brinkworth, PhD, the lead researcher of the study.”
…..I hate websites that don’t cite studies.
So here is the study:
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/1108558
I can’t tell you how hard this made me laugh man. As I said, I read the book you’re citing last year. I found that actual study. I read it. …These people do not know what constitutes low-carb. A quote from the paper:
Participants on the LC diet were prescribed a dietary plan aimed at providing 4% of total energy as carbohydrate, 35% as protein, and 61% as fat (20% saturated fat), with the objective to restrict carbohydrate to less than 20 g/d for the first 8 weeks and with an option to increase to less than 40 g/d for the remainder of the study.
….35 percent of kcal coming from protein IS NOT a LC diet. Twice as many people in the LC group were being treated for depression at the beginning of the study and that, along with the high drop-out rate shows these results should be ‘viewed cautiously’.
And perhaps the biggest pitfall with this study: salt intake was restricted. While you’re on a low-carb diet for a time, your kidney excretes salt. Without a salt supplement/with salt restriction, lethargy and moodiness occurs.
But what do I know, PP, I’m just some trainer/nutritionist.
I assume you can use your big brain to figure out what I’m talking about above and WHY this study was garbage.
This was HILARIOUS PP. Thank you for the laugh!
“A sample of one person proves nothing.”
I must have some weird polymorphism that allows me to concentrate while carb-depleted.
“Wrong again RR!”
No i am not. Because i actually understand this research.
“That’s because stress produces high levels of hormones, like cortisol, that boost your appetite and lead to bingeing, says obesity expert Elissa Epel, PhD, an associate professor at the University of California, San Francisco Department of Psychiatry”
The paper is available for download here:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=Mindfulness+Intervention+for+Stress+Eating+to+Reduce+Cortisol+and+Abdominal+Fat+among+Overweight+and+Obese+Women%3A+An+Exploratory+Randomized+Controlled+Study&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C31&as_sdtp=
It does talk about what that link says, but carbs are not brought up. If his rationalization is the Brinkworth study, see above (I’ll pick it apart more if I feel like it later) because it is ……
…..
WRONG!!!
“Medical, scientific, heart-health, governmental and intergovernmental, and professional authorities, such as the World Health Organization,[2] the American Dietetic Association,[3] the Dietitians of Canada,[3] the British Dietetic Association,[4] American Heart Association,[5] the British Heart Foundation,[6] the World Heart Federation,[7] the British National Health Service,[8] the United States Food and Drug Administration,[9] and the European Food Safety Authority[10] advise that saturated fat is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, and recommend dietary limits on saturated fats as one means of reducing that risk.”
….No it is not.
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/how-did-we-come-to-believe-saturated-fat-and-cholesterol-are-bad-for-us
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/3/229
^^^ How can saturated fat be bad for us if a high sat fat diet lowers LDL (bad) cholesterol, almost as well as a diet that has 20-25 percent less sat fat?
Give it up PP. I clearly have command of this literature. I read that book, it’s garbage.
Stick to HBD, IQ, Oprah and your celeb worship. I guess you can’t use your ‘big brain’ to ‘cognitively adapt’ this ‘situation to your advantage’.
And by the way, I’m a huge fan of mindful eating.
Forgot to respond to:
“‘In a recent Harvard University study of 322 dieters, only 78% of those on low-carb plans stuck with their diet over the long term (up to two years), while nearly 90% of those on a high-carb diet were still going strong after two years.”
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/12/16/dr-david-ludwig-clears-up-carbohydrate-confusion/
Read this from Harvard researcher David Lustig.
I can’t find my book at the moment and, as usual, shitty websites don’t cite sources so I can’t comment on this one at the moment.
However a twelve percent difference? lol.
And again: all diets don’t work; ONLY LCHF WITH INTERMITTENT FASTING DOES!
I understand this research PP, you do not.
Stick to HBD dude.
Wrong again RR:
I would tell you not to quit your day job, but sadly this is your day job.
“there are no large and rigorous studies showing that low-carbohydrate diets offer an advantage, and, in fact, there is not even a consensus on the definition of a low-carbohydrate diet — it can vary from doctor to doctor… multiple studies have found that when it comes to weight loss — the only proven way to help with blood sugar control over the long term — there is no difference among diets that restrict calories, fat or carbohydrates.”
This is literally retarded.
I love Kolata’s work, and her book is even better. But she should have waited a few days to publish this article because this came out a few days later:
Results: No significant differences in the laboratory safety parameters were found between the two study groups. Changes in the urine albumin-to-creatinine ratio in VLCK diet were not significant and were comparable to control group. Creatinine and blood urea nitrogen did not change significantly relative to baseline nor between groups. Weight loss and reduction in waist circumference in the VLCK diet group were significantly larger than in control subjects (both P<0.001). The decline in HbA1c and glycemic control was larger in the VLCK diet group (P<0.05). No serious adverse events were reported and mild AE in the VLCK diet group declined at last follow-up.
Conclusion: The interventional weight loss program based on a VLCK diet is most effective in reducing body weight and improvement of glycemic control than a standard hypocaloric diet with safety and good tolerance for T2DM patients.
http://www.nature.com/nutd/journal/v6/n9/abs/nutd201636a.html?
Stick to your HBD ‘theories’ with no sources dude. You’re ignorant to this research.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/diabetes
Do a bit of reading in this field and get back to me PP. I have command of the literature in the field. I know what to look for in these studies, you do not.
“I would tell you not to quit your day job, but sadly this is your day job.”
Sure thing man. Tell that to the hundreds of people I’ve helped lose weight and gain strength.
Stick to your day job PP (probably a lackluster one, given the fact that you believe you’re a ‘celebrity’ due to anon HBD blogging….. ……. ??).
RR, it’s very tedious debating someone who simply can not read. The study you cited was only 4 months, not a large long-term study. So the statement from The New York Times still stands:
there are no large and rigorous studies showing that low-carbohydrate diets offer an advantage, and, in fact, there is not even a consensus on the definition of a low-carbohydrate diet — it can vary from doctor to doctor… multiple studies have found that when it comes to weight loss — the only proven way to help with blood sugar control over the long term — there is no difference among diets that restrict calories, fat or carbohydrates.
“it’s very tedious debating someone who simply can not read.”
Dude, I’ve read all of Kolata’s articles. I read her book Rethinking Thin. I know everything she’s written about..
“The study you cited was only 4 months”
….. What? Dude, the study was done on diabetics to see the best diet for type 2 diabetics. That’s what was found. It wasn’t just a weight loss study. It was to find the best diet for type 2 diabetics. And they found that a VLCK diet is superior for insulin management and weight loss in type 2 diabetics.
You’d need to know about this field to know that though.
“there are no large and rigorous studies showing that low-carbohydrate diets offer an advantage
1) Insulin causes generalized obesity and localized fat growth.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/insulin-causes-weight-gain-hormonal-obesity-iv/
2) Low carb high fat diets lower insulin the most.
The low fat diet does nothing to reduce insulin levels. So fat stores are blocked from being used for energy. Basal metabolism drops almost 400 calories per day. But on the other extreme, very low carbohydrate diets would be the diet that lowers insulin the most. This allows access to the basement fat ‘freezer’. Now our body has the energy it needs to start revving up its metabolism.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/fix-broken-metabolism/
3) As seen in the cohort of the study I previously cited, their insulin sensitivity was better, they lost weight and inches around the waist.
You are literally clueless to this field pp. Look up Dr. David Lustig’s research.
” there is not even a consensus on the definition of a low-carbohydrate diet — it can vary from doctor to doctor”
Doctors are not nutritionists and most of them get a garbage education on nutrition. Dr. Fung, however, is the world’s most knowledgeable people in the world on this.
Even then, my definition of a low carb diet is 15 percent of kcal from CHO. A very low carb diet is 5 percent of kcal coming from CHO, with 85 percent coming from fat and 10 percent from protein (because excess protein spikes insulin as well even though it doesn’t spike blood glucose. Look up the insulin index).
” multiple studies have found that when it comes to weight loss — the only proven way to help with blood sugar control over the long term — there is no difference among diets that restrict calories, fat or carbohydrates.”
Question for you. Do you think insulin sensitivity would be better on a high fat diet or high carb diet? Which of those diets will get rid of type 2 diabetes mellitus?
Read Jason Fung. Read Kolata’s book. Read Taubes’ books. You’re wrong dude. It’s clear you’re very ignorant to this research.
Stick to Oprah talk please. You’re offending me with your non-knowledge about a field I am in.
RR, cite a large and rigorous study showing that low-carbohydrate diets offer an advantage over regular diets. Put up or shut up.
Challenge accepted. Will reply this afternoon at my laptop.
The thing is, pp, all diets fail in the long run. Re: Mann et al 2007. However, for what I myself am interested in, low carb diets reduce insulin levels. Low carb diets get rid of type 2 diabetes mellitus.
There are no long-term studies on weight loss for any diet because dieting does not work. You’re battling biology. Refer back to my earlier comment on the brain blunting hunger hormones and decreasing satiety hormones to make one eat more and gain the weight back..
Mr. Evolution Observer, you should know about the environmental mismatch we have created for ourselves in first world countries, that is why we’re obese. Returning to a diet that’s more like our ancestors will mitigate diseases of civilization.
And nutrition studies are notorious for having small sample sizes.
I have an advanced understanding of human physiology, biology, anatomy, human movement science and metabolism. I know what I am talking about here.
I advise you to read Fungs blog. Get educated on this subject, then come back to me buddy.
The thing is, pp, all diets fail in the long run.
That’s an exaggeration. A study of Biggest Loser contestants found that although their metabolism slowed and their hunger increased, they maintained about 30% of their dramatic weight loss six years later. The sample size was small, but it is a rare example of a long-term study on an incredibly obese sample.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oby.21538/full
But part of the problem is people get off their diet. They don’t realize how at risk they are for regaining the weight so they stop attending support groups and stop monitoring their food intake, or they deprive themselves so much that they fall off the wagon. That’s why I think it’s good that Weight Watchers allows people to indulge in comfort food if that’s what they crave, but the point system allows them to manage their cravings.
The other problem is people lose weight too fast or without enough exercise and end up losing muscle and look worse, which is very discouraging for them, so no wonder they can’t stay motivated.
Re: Mann et al 2007. However, for what I myself am interested in, low carb diets reduce insulin levels. Low carb diets get rid of type 2 diabetes mellitus.
According to the NY Times article I cited, the only proven way to help blood sugar is weight loss and it doesn’t matter whether the weight is lost from cutting carbs, fat or calories.
I have an advanced understanding of human physiology, biology, anatomy, human movement science and metabolism. I know what I am talking about here.
How do you know your understanding is advanced? It’s a very complex field. Even leading scientists can not agree on it.
I strongly recommend you read this article I wrote last year.
“That’s an exaggeration”
No it is not. Read Mann et al. 2007.
” A study of Biggest Loser contestants found that although their metabolism slowed and their hunger increased, they maintained about 30% of their dramatic weight loss six years later. The sample size was small, but it is a rare example of a long-term study on an incredibly obese sample.”
That is not what they said at all:
After 6 years, 41.0 ± 31.3 kg of the lost weight was regained (P = 0.0002), while RMR was 704 ± 427 kcal/day below baseline (P < 0.0001) and metabolic adaptation was −499 ± 207 kcal/day (P < 0.0001). Weight regain was not significantly correlated with metabolic adaptation at the competition's end (r = −0.1, P = 0.75), but those subjects maintaining greater weight loss at 6 years also experienced greater concurrent metabolic slowing (r = 0.59, P = 0.025).
If I am in error and quoted the wrong part please provide the quotation that backs your claim.
“But part of the problem is people get off their diet. ”
Because of hormones.
Two questions for you: is eating under voluntary control? Are fat stores regulated by the body?
” or they deprive themselves so much that they fall off the wagon. ”
Metabolism slows as kcal intake is lowered. This is the body’s defense mechanism against what it perceives as starvation. Come on man. You’re interested in human evolution so you should know about this.
“That’s why I think it’s good that Weight Watchers allows people to indulge in comfort food if that’s what they crave, but the point system allows them to manage their cravings.”
I’ve sat in on a few WWs meetings. They’re a joke.
I recommend the slow carb diet to people. It allows a cheat day where you can eat anything you’d like. It’s a good way to keep people on their diet knowing they get a reward.
Look up Tim Ferris.
“The other problem is people lose weight too fast”
Incorrect. Speed of weight loss has no beating on how fast weight comes back.
“without enough exercise and end up losing muscle and look worse, which is very discouraging for them, so no wonder they can’t stay motivated.”
Have you any idea of the psychology behind dieting? I strongly recommend you read Traci Mann’s book Secrets from the Eating Lab.
It’s hard to stay motivated because eating decreased kcal for a long time causes that.
“According to the NY Times article I cited, the only proven way to help blood sugar is weight loss and it doesn’t matter whether the weight is lost from cutting carbs, fat or calories.”
According to the world’s foremost expert on intermittent fasting for diabetes control and weight loss, LCHF diets improve insulin sensitivity.
Does insulin sensitivity improve with, say, 60 percent of kcal coming from carbs, or does it improve with 60 percent coming from fat? What spikes insulin? What lowers insulin? Do you agree that insulin causes obesity and weight gain along with localized fat gain?
“How do you know your understanding is advanced? It’s a very complex field. Even leading scientists can not agree on it.”
I need to keep up with CEUs every few months. I get the most recent knowledge on this stuff my friend. Sure there is no large consensus, that doesn’t mean I’m wrong, however.
Leading scientists can’t agree on the cause for racial IQ gaps, yet you think you know why it is. It’s the same with me and this field. I have a great understanding of this. And my explanation makes logical and factual sense.
See Dr. Fungs thoughts in the biggest loser diet.
Let’s start with the first paper about the Biggest Loser. Essentially, he followed 14 Biggest Loser contestants. At the end of the show, they had all lost significant amounts of weight following a Eat Less, Move More approach. Contestants eat about 1000 – 1200 calories per day and exercise like mad people. What the study showed is that basal metabolism drops like a piano out of the Empire State building. It plummets. They are burning about 800 calories less per day than previously. This had been known for a long time. However, it was always hoped that the body would eventually recover and go back to its original metabolic rate. But unfortunately no, the metabolic rate does not recover even 6 years later.
In other words, if you reduce your ‘Calories In’, your ‘Calories Out’ will automatically drop. This makes sense. If your body normally eats 2000 calories per day and burns 2000, then what happens when you only eat 1200 calories? Let’s use the Socratic method and ask a related question. If you normally earn $100,000 per year and spend $100,000, what happens when your income drops to $50,000? Well, you are not stupid and don’t want to end up in debtor’s jail, so your spending drops to $50,000. Well, our body is not stupid either. If we are eating 1200 calories, we automatically adjust by burning 1200 calories. The body does not want to die, and neither do I. Why would we assume the body still burns 2000 calories? It’s just not that stupid.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/biggest-loser-diet-explained/
And see Ms. Kolata’s thoughts:
It has to do with resting metabolism, which determines how many calories a person burns when at rest. When the show began, the contestants, though hugely overweight, had normal metabolisms for their size, meaning they were burning a normal number of calories for people of their weight. When it ended, their metabolisms had slowed radically and their bodies were not burning enough calories to maintain their thinner sizes.
…
Most people who have tried to lose weight know how hard it is to keep the weight off, but many blame themselves when the pounds come back. But what obesity research has consistently shown is that dieters are at the mercy of their own bodies, which muster hormones and an altered metabolic rate to pull them back to their old weights, whether that is hundreds of pounds more or that extra 10 or 15 that many people are trying to keep off.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html
Of course, as Dr. Lustig said, it’s limited by a small sample and no control. However, I have other studies showing the same thing even in people who dieted WHILE they were thin. This is a biological reality pp, something you should take to. Because it is true.
Dieting causes metabolic damage. Dieting increases the likelihood of subsequent obesity and BMI gain.
Compared to those who were never on a diet in the previous year, the odds of obesity were 1.9, 2.9, and 3.2 times higher among those who were on a diet once, more than once, and always, respectively. Similarly, the odds of BMI gain versus BMI maintenance and also versus BMI loss were higher among those who dieted than those who did not.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25608460
In addressing the biological plausibility that dieting predisposes the lean (rather than the overweight or obese) to regaining more body fat than what had been lost (i.e. fat overshooting), it integrates the results derived from the re-analysis of body composition data on fat mass and fat-free mass (FFM) losses and recoveries from human studies of experimental energy restriction and refeeding. These suggest that feedback signals from the depletion of both fat mass (i.e. adipostats) and FFM (i.e. proteinstats) contribute to weight regain through the modulation of energy intake and adaptive thermogenesis, and that a faster rate of fat recovery relative to FFM recovery (i.e. preferential catch-up fat) is a central outcome of body composition autoregulation in lean individuals.
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Given the increasing prevalence of dieting in normal-weight female and male among young adults, adolescents and even children who perceive themselves as too fat (due to media, family and societal pressures), together with the high prevalence of dieting for optimizing performance among athletes in weight-sensitive sports, the notion that dieting and weight cycling may be predisposing a substantial proportion of the population to weight gain and obesity deserves greater scientific scrutiny.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25614201
Girls who dieted in 9th grade were three times more likely to be obese by 12th grade than girls who didn’t diet.
Dietary restraint, self-labeled dieting, exercise for weight-control purposes, and appetite suppressant/laxative use predicted an increased risk for obesity onset.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10596518
Give it up man. You’re horribly wrong here.
ROFL !!!!
This post has to be a mother fucking joke !!!
PP, are you serious ?
And what cure are you talking about ? Condemning perversion is the sane reaction that every balanced human being has to have.
Oh my….
This made my evening.
http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/tv/2011/01/18/16928101-wenn-story.html
almost convinced me you aren’t peepee.
The neocons got Flynn.
Trump needs help. Someone eventually has to expose Zion directly. Trump’s 3d chess is too coy considering they can hear his phone calls anyway.
The trouble is, most people have been programmed to find anything vaguely anti-semitic ‘evil’ through the layering of Hollywood and academia. This what happens when you are tolerant, you let intolerant high IQ people walk all over you.
The Chinese won’t make the mistake. Because they’re intolerant. Like most human beings naturally are without brainwashing.
https://youtu.be/HMT4gU0X8eM
http://h.mhcdn.net/store/manga/18553/018.1/compressed/scredits.jpg?token=e36ce1bb862bae4bb35d1d94bdf9a88d&ttl=1487433600
https://youtu.be/YSMR-jx-yyg
Saitama is the shit but Luffy is the GOAT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_2XL1iP6ZY
What !? PP’s been in the military ??
Once you go to the military, you’re a soldier forever, even if you’re not doing military training per se.
The idea that an Oprah show turned a tough soldier into a meek fag lover tells a lot about the standards of the Canadian army.
This is hilarious.
“The idea that an Oprah show turned a tough soldier into a meek fag lover tells a lot about the standards of the Canadian army.”
We also have illegal immigrants from Canada here too. They have to go back and I want a wall built on the northern border too. It won’t happen though (neither will a southern one).
Wow, Pumpkin was a cadet! I wonder was it air force or army?
I was in cadets & then in the army reserve force (artillery).
what medallion goes best with a uniform afro?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNY%3Fstart%3D54
I’d dream to be awarded this one:
Médaille de la Résistance Française.
this is a good one too:

Keep it for yourself since you are peepee.
black masculinity:
When French outrage eventually forced action, a series of kangaroo courts resulted in 153 prosecutions for sex offences and 29 soldiers being hanged for rape, 77 per cent of them were black GIs.
And ?
France formalized its fascination with Jerry Lewis Thursday with a uniquely Gallic gift for his 80th birthday: a medal and induction into the Legion of Honor. Lewis, 80, was made Commander in the Legion of Honor order by French Culture Minister Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres.
i can’t decide which is worse. this or the germans’ veneration of david hasselhoff.
“i can’t decide which is worse. this or the germans’ veneration of david hasselhoff.”
You worshiping Trump is the worst thing that can be imagined.
you should reconsider afro. i agree she doesn’t always take a good picture. but when she does it’s very good. and she’s nearby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyMkG6Kw-_8
she looks and sounds borderline alcoholic .
she also looks like she has some asian in her, so that wont be going anywhere for many generations.
She seems like a likable person but so do most alcoholics .
she looks and sounds borderline alcoholic.
didn’t notice, but i assume she drinks too much.
she also looks like she has some asian in her.
that’s why i thought she might have potential. not just that she’s pretty. i was thinking of tina chow.
also looks like gia, who had no asian in her. tina chow and gia i only know from lists of people who died from AIDS.
Mugabe, I really don’t think your internet crush wants to be a model. But there are still many jobs worth trying, including in the visual arts. She is beautiful but common, without anything special and seeing a few full body pics on her instagram, she doesn’t seem to have required body proportions. Add her age to that and the idea becomes simply ridiculous.
just trying to make deal jealous, but i do have an internet crush.
you had me at “medallion” afro.
I noticed you were obsessed with me and I don’t like breaking people’s heart. But my heart belongs to someone else Mugabe…
Sad!
Jealous of the beer girl? Like whatever. She may be pretty but I’m on another level.
what level is that?
she doesn’t have to pay for sex deal.
the first thing every french soldier learns is how to say “i surrender” in german.
It’s only the far right that you love so much that surrendered to Germany. True patriots were resisting in the Maquis.
no true scotsman, no true frenchman.
A sad poem
Do you hate me?
Is it because I am evil.
Because I use people.
Because I toy with them.
Is that what you think?
If that is so, then why should I change.
I’m not real to you, I am just a fantasy.
A game that you cannot win.
So do you feel anything for me.
Or will you abandon me.
Because I am not real.
I can’t let that happen.
If you think I am evil.
It must be true.
Because that is the only way I’m real to you.
Because I don’t want you to abandon me.
Whatever you’re smoking, I want some.
i know you’re in love with peepee.
don’t be sad. i know you will.
every woman falls in love me eventually. even lesbians.
why? i don’t know.
that’s just been my experience.
The logical counter-argument against the clever conservative person is not easy to put forward but is this one : the same reason people opposed gay relationship was the reason people opposed inter-racial mating : no child would like to be neither white nor black. So it’s in the benefit of the children not to allow inter-racial marriages. But if you asked a child with reach healthy intelligent beautiful parents if he would like to be born in a average family, they would not, and it would be necessary to forbid mating to a huge % of the population. And that’s a reasonable statements that very few people, only HBD people, endorse versus gay relationship recognition, which is still widly opposed.
I don’t feel like posting here anymore. Philosopher and Mugabe are boring.
Sorry, but they’re the best we got!
so you’re admitting that hymie and afro are peepee.
she said for the 100th time.
oh no. don’t leave. your comments are so not boring.
You’ve said this 6 trillion times.
cute guys, penis size, gerard depardieu, threats of not posting anymore, calling people names…this is a top 14 law grad. sad!
Speaking of cute guys, you know who’s not cute?
Mugabe.
Sad!
you have to believe that to protect your ego. sad!
no great civilization has ever tolerated open homosexuality.
no jews no gay agenda.
Your childhood racism was silly.
I don’t hate blacks, hispanics, asians , indians, etc I just want them repatriated.
I believe that if the west had 1950s demographics then the world would be a much happier place.
“When I was a young child (I’m now in my 30s), I was VERY conservative,”
This sentence is stupid per se. In which world do you hear parents say.
“My 5 year old is such a fascist”
“My 3 year old is an unbearable SJW”
“I think my 7 year old leans ecologist”
We only start developing nascent social and political consciousness by late middle school for the most precocious among us. And a large share of grown up adults never become socially and politically aware at all.
OMG i hear comments like that all the time. You’re too young to know how parents privately talk about their kids:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/170642
Lol, one exceptional anecdotal example is proof that the majority of parents have discussions about the ideology of their children under age 10. Sure Peepee, I get it now. I hope my son is gonna be a radical zionist right after he says his first word, which I hope will be “zion”.
Afro, only talk when you can improve the silence
Lol, I guess your next post will talk about giving voting rights to 5 year olds.
when i was in elementary school i was a militant atheist.
then i grew up.
I was a Santa Claus fundamentalist as well as a Disney democrat. I grew up too.
How do you define God? Do you believe in afterlife?
How do you define God? Do you believe in afterlife?
i don’t. it’s obvious.
the people who must define God are those who say “there is no God”.
i’m still an atheist in the sense that the first christians were called atheists. i think organized religion is immoral and stupid.
Most autists are atheists.
Just like most autists think women respond to being worshipped and ‘respected’.
Its the same thiught pattern.
you know you want it.

He was always ugly and had a bad haircut.
Sad!
obsessed with sex.^^^
the ONLY thing you post on is male beauty or lack of it.
how many times a day do you masturbate? 10?
you’re an idiot. i’m trying to insult Trump because I hate him. You know he’s really insecure right?
so 10?
nice photoshop
speaking of racism and homophobia, has anyone noticed how many gays there are in the so called alt-right?
I think that because so many leading gays are jews they have adopted jewish tactics.
I have seen gays who are leading leftists, conservatives, white supremacists,pro-immigration activists etc
They have a finger in every pot
And has anyone noticed how they only show good looking gays in movies/tv?
i remember reading about a study that showed that most lesbians are fat, but you wouldn’t think that judging by the media .
i thought milo was the only one. spencer and johnson sound gay, but are they?
Milo, Spencer, Johnson , Jack Donovan , millennial woes, Ryan Falk etc .
That jack donovan one is an absolute degenerate. He talks about doing men like they are women, and how how he has a sugar daddy who is funding his lifestyle.
I am starting to think that the alt in alt-right stands for alternative life style.
Greg Johnson is gay. Spencer may as well be gay since he ran away and fixed his hair instead of attacking someone that attacked him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rh1dhur4aI
lol
>complain about white birthrates
>be gay and have no children.
And no pp, EGIs aren’t good enough since whites will be replaced by 2042.
that video lol what a faggot .
Their beloved Trumpstein has the power to shut down immigration but he wont do it.
He is using the courts as an excuse not to do it .
Trumpstein went from ” I’ll ban all muslims ” to ” i’ll ban a few countries ” and
from ” i’ll deport 25 million illegals ” to ” i’m looking for the criminals ”
Get ready for minority status.
will we get affirmative action ?
LMAO
#PussyAssFaggot
RR has the excuse of being a guido from new jersey.
what’s fashion-week-afro’s excuse?
he’s black.
it explains everything. side chicks, metro/homo-sexuality, medallion, love of (c)rap music.
sad!
hymie is gayer than spencer’s hair.
hymie’s theory is he should have run after the guy and hit him back on camera…
thus he would be arrested along with his assaulter and he’d lose what little seriousness he has.
My hatred for the brainwashed sjw just went up 2 or 3 notches.
Remember chrrun we are not all like richard spencer.
Some of us are capable of doing things far worse than talking or memes.
Whiny
” hymie is gayer than spencer’s hair.
hymie’s theory is he should have run after the guy and hit him back on camera…
thus he would be arrested along with his assaulter and he’d lose what little seriousness he has ”
Whiny doesn’t understand American culture.
How do you think Trump got elected ? how do you think Trump won over 51% of White women?
Americans, especially white-Americans, respect people who act like men.
If he disciplined that communist, the video would have gone viral and he would have won millions of mainstream republican supporters.
If Bob, from Jacksonville, watches that , he would view Spency as nothing but a pussy.
And there is no way that he would have been arrested for throwing the second punch. What an idiot .
Whiny seems like a 5’3 metro-sexual living in Seattle .
He spends his nights on his balcony looking at the sky in despair.
on the nights that he is most frustrated he looks up , huffs a big sigh and says
“When am i going to get my Darcy? i’m done waiting lord ! I’m done waiting !”
Mugabe, I’ll take advice from your ascetic dogma when I want to become a lonely alcoholic. For the time being, there is nothing in my life that I would trade for something in yours, not even your liquor.
“hymie’s theory is he should have run after the guy and hit him back on camera…”
Are you serious? He looked like such a bitch not doing anything. He lost what little seriousness he had after he said “Heil Trump”. He’s a clown.
i’m trying to play catch with afro, but he thinks i’m throwing the ball at him.
…he’s black…
what i mean is afro is in reality a shy, introverted, intellectual young man who has been sold “black masculinity”. unless he gets over his identity issues, they’ll ruin him.
and i mean that if a white frenchman told us everything afro has, the odds he’d be gay would be 100%.
it may be different for blacks.
i AM darcy hymie. i’ve already got him.
And there is no way that he would have been arrested for throwing the second punch. What an idiot.
yes. you are an idiot. insight despite autism. encouraging.
self-defense is always legal. revenge…never.
and the powers that be would use any opportunity to prosecute spencer.
the guy who hit him ran away instantly, before spencer even knew what was happening.
to hit back he would have had to run after the guy, likely never catch him. by the time he knew what’d happened the guy was a block away.
“to hit back he would have had to run after the guy, likely never catch him. by the time he knew what’d happened the guy was a block away.”
It’s a whole lot better than running in the opposite direction and fixing your hair like a little bitch.
Jimmy.
What are you on about?
If there is no alt right. As there wasnt really last year nobody would be talking about immigration
Wveryone would be welcoming our new thrid world welfare protectates.
What are you on about sometimes…
If some a re gay who cares. In the grand scheme of things cloaing the border and destroying the racket is more important. I even welcome jews to the cause.
Im not looking for 100% purity. I dont drive a car like an old woman.
This jews are using the alt right to control nationalist thing is the dumbest motherfuckin conspiracy ive ever heard. Or the trump is secretly a zionist.
IF YOU WERE SECRETLY A ZIONIST PATSY youd run like jeb bush or lunio and never mention population replacement.
Phill
“If there is no alt right. As there wasnt really last year nobody would be talking about immigration
Wveryone would be welcoming our new thrid world welfare protectates. ”
Immigration has been the number one issue for the last 6-8 years
.
If you follow the disgusting opportunist called Anne Coulter you would’ve seen her progression from judeo-con to judeo-nationalist .
I remember listening to shabott goy Bill O’Reilly’s ,now defunct, radio show in 2008 where he used the phrase ” the browning of america ” to describe mexican illegal immigration.
“If some are gay who cares. In the grand scheme of things closing the border and destroying the racket is more important. ”
tolerating gay supporters is one thing but being led by gays is completely different.
They do not want racial homogeneity. They want cultural homogeneity and their culture is cultural Marxism .
These gays are not pro-White they are anti-Islam.
What they want is libertarianism + anti-Islam.
what muslims do in their countries is none of my damn business. So long as they are out of my country ,why the hell would i care what they do ?
” I even welcome jews to the cause”
Ask yourself the following question : whats in it for jews?
How the hell would a jew benefit from a white country?
are the jews so stupid that they would work to create a demographic situation where they would be the only group that stood out?
there is one jew called David Cole who goes on alt-right podcasts. He has publicly said that he has no problem with immigration.
there is another one who calls himself a ” Cultureist ”
and don’t get me started one the crypto-jews like Mike ” Jews had no role in 9/11″ Enoch aka Peinovich whos wife is a member of B’nai B’rith.
” IF YOU WERE SECRETLY A ZIONIST PATSY youd run like jeb bush or lunio and never mention population replacement.”
The exact opposite
if you wanted to field a puppet you would make him run as a populist leader to win the support of anti-immigration people.
You are a perfect example of such people. Trump has reneged on all of his promises and here you are defending him with passion.
No matter what he does you will always bat for him because in your mind hes your guy.
Its Reagan 2.0
Agreed on the jew homo motivations to check islam. And obv i also believe 9-11 had mossad involvement.
And i dont want gay leaders either as it sends a nessage theat we are a cartoon.
That said ye shall judge the stone by the ripples it makes. Milo has popularized alt right ideas. The ideas are more important than the people. In time these people will fade away. But ideas take much longer.
Honestly if beyonce magic negr queen herslef started saying alt right terms and ideas i wouldnt care. It would lead more to the banner no matter how weird the route. Same as that pewdiepie saga.
Mike is married to an iranian afaik.
You also have the appearence of very high iq people like unz who are wedded to truth deapite where it takes them. I think there are certainly jews that arehigh iq enough to want the truth known. There are bery jigh iq of all races of man that tend to share similar outlooks on epistemology and predation.
Which is to say they enjoy exposition and pedagogy.
At the end of the day retinence of truth is a form of predation which they oppose.
Knowledge is power. Absence of such is de facto slavery. Slavery is an abomination in my eyes.
Your trump manchurian candidate theory is too covuluted. Makes no sense and is rejected by the behaviour of zion itslef to him. Specifically the people trump aurrounds himself with. Its obvious trump was not first or even last choice. The media have completely pilloried him. In case you havent noticed they are the media. Jeb was by far their choice. Trump bashing the iraq war makes no sense. They would bever want to promote anti lebensraum views. Youre getting ahead of yourself. Never thought id have to be the voice of moderation here hahaha.
Your thinking pattern is not like any software developer ive ever met i.e conventional, assuming people are nice fundamentally and just not educated when they do somehing bad etc etc Good to posut these scenarios though jimmy. Socratic exposition and that.
The media have completely pilloried him.
ask yourself : have the attacks made you support him ?
Trump bashing the iraq war makes no sense. They would never want to promote anti lebensraum views
Zion doesn’t care if the iraq war is criticized. what they care about is how the iraq war is criticized.
” the war was for oil ” – Kosher
” the war was for the american empire ” – Kosher
” the war was for the military industrial complex ” -Kosher
” the war was to create new markets for capitalism ” – Kosher
” We shouldn’t be sending our sons to die for democracy ” – kosher
” The war was to make the middle east safer for Israel ” – EVIL
I hope you’re right phil .
I want to be wrong.
Nothing would make me happier than to see Trump fulfill his promises.
But i wont be holding my breath.
“I even welcome jews to the cause”
Mike Enoch is that you?
“Mike is married to an Iranian.”*
No she is Jewish.
Dont worry youre wrong. Youre overthinking it.
The medias effect has beeb overall to dampen support for open borders.
This is the bridge over river kwai problem ive postulated.
No matter what the semantics are or iq of the puppetmaster is. The bridge has to be taken down. And its too noticeable.
In other words the borders are either open or not.
White women are either shoved towards blacks or not.
The semantic and ‘reason’ is irrelevant because the effect of the proposal is so massive and resounding. Zion cannot weasel iron into cloth.
The rise of trump coincides directly with the rise of our views into oublic consciousness. Rejoice! The river kwai is a fact on the ground as our jewish wormtongues are fond of regalling.
in his interview with bill maher tonight,milo was wearing classic skinhead garb (bomber jacket,camo pants,boots),but then he also has on pearls,and is crossing his legs and talking like a flaming h*mo. it has to be a conspiracy.some kind of psyop to make the face of the AltRight a gay,interracial dating,jewish plant. actually,maybe i’m giving him too much credit. he’s probably just a really good,next-level troll.
one look at that guy and you would quickly understand that the Nazis were the good guys.
Haha, I tell ya. Its been a lonely battle here for the last few months at times. Finally the voices of reason are prevailing.
The hatred and intolerance of the vast majority of some of the other commenters here is sickening.
Considered by some to be the first supermodel,[1][2] she was featured on the cover of fashion magazines, including multiple editions of Vogue and Cosmopolitan, and appeared in advertising campaigns for such fashion houses as Armani, Christian Dior, Versace, and Yves Saint Laurent.
she was only 5’7″.
how model standards have changed, or afro is gay. or both. i’m guessing both. i wonder if male models also have to be ugly. afro?

Good looking girl alright.
5’7″ Is definitely too short now, the tallest girls in my generation reach this height in middle school. The industry favors girls around 6′, so a 5’7″ wanna be model would need to have something extremely special.
The beauty of a Fashion model is not supposed to be that of a porn actress or actor. If the model gets the audience hard, it’s fine but a model face is supposed to be special in an artistic sense.
how is your face special in an artistic sense afro?
Get ready for a very homosexual moment. What got me into modelling is:
-perfect facial symmetry
-Strange slanted eyes
-African lips and nose
-manly jaws that hide the cutest smile on earth
-ability to be very expressive with my face
-6’2″, elongated mesomorphic and athletic body with African morphology
-flawless smooth skin (no acne in my teenage)
-not too to dark nor too light complexion
Strange slanted eyes
blasian?
In my opinion, the most iconic model and fashion diva from the past is Françoise Hardy
finally you’ve come out. that took courage.
Wow, how dare you even talk about fashion if you can’t acknowledge that Françoise Hardy is the legend of the 60s and 70s ??
once is enough afro. there’s no going back in.
Wow, how dare you even talk about fashion…
it’s hard to tell you’re a girl.
Sorry dude That girl isn’t really that attractive.
first pic looks like a transsexual.
second pic looks asian.
third pic looks like a mixture of both.
Afro is clearly in the closet.
Françoise Hardy is definitely attractive bud she’d need to be a couple of shades darker, with some more pounds where it matters to turn me on.
Anyway, I wasn’t talking about what makes my dick hard. Just saying that this girl is legend in vintage fashion. If your girlfriend has style, you’ll catch her browsing Françoise Hardy’s lookbooks to find inspiration for her vintage outfits. If you’re dating a stylish girl and she wears 60s inspired clothes, tell her she reminds you of Françoise Hardy, she’ll be flattered and impressed by the reference.
Call me back for more advice in girlology.
That chick is ratchet too. Pornstars>models. At least with makeup on.
afro alone in his parents’ house:
LOL! That happened to me once. I thought I had the house to myself so I started singing Bob Marley at the top of my lungs, not knowing there were people upstairs. I still cringe thinking about it.
That’s because you’re a high class man. Low class Mugabe would drink and watch wrestling or something. High class men adore Bob Marley’s dreadlocks.
no. i do meth when i watch wrestlin’. when i drink i watch hee-haw. i have all the episodes on tape. and i only drink budweiser, the king of beers.
i have the sinking feeling that i’ve made deal cry on numerous occasions.
sad!
More kneejerk hatred against men.
When are you going to say something positive about mel gibson?
There’s nothing positive to say about Mel Gibson. He’s a mentally ill bigot.
the very first People‘s sexiest man alive.
More vicious hatred and unhinged anger towards the most giften filmaker alive today.
Do people ever tell you that youre a bit obsessed? You bring up men in all the comments you make wether as objects of hate or as cheap sex objects.
“There’s nothing positive to say about Mel Gibson. He’s a mentally ill bigot.”
Mel Gibson told the truth and got driven out of Hollywood.
Thank G-d he’s coming out with a new movie though, on Jesus’ ressurection.
http://www.jpost.com/Christian-News/Mel-Gibson-confirms-new-film-project-on-Jesus-resurrection-466737
If Mel Gibson could do anything more to get in my good graces besides doubling down on the Passion, it would probably mean he would become the equivalent of Jesus to me.
Ahah, unfortunately I have not lived at my parent’s home very long, neither did I had many occasions to be home alone.
Hitler did something very intelligent to beat the jewish media on his rise to power.
He lied.
One thing i see germanics do too much is play straight.
Trump ahould make up lies. Eg. Nyt rang me to threaten me etc etc.
Hitler was very intelligent like that. If you listen to hitlers speeches he exaggerates or lies. Trump needs to do that to defeat the jewish media. He needs to make up plausible lies.
Like them i suppose. Ahahaha.
I wonder how many lurkers there are.
Peepee s monthly traffic is 45odd thousand visitors.
Many of them have an interest in iq.
Possible to think many are influential.
And some are whores.
What was rushton like pumpkin? Have you ibteracted with other noteworthy scholars? Murray? Lynn? Etc
Philosopher, i described my memories of rushton here:
https://brainsize.wordpress.com/tag/j-philippe-rushton/
Thats very interesting you would just pick up the phone like that. I sometimes forget academics would actually welcome a bit of distraction from the tedium.
I rememeber some of my professors were delighted to debate rather than pontoficate.
His response to your victorian iq finding is funny.
Its like when people say that flynn is still in operation today. It primie facie stupid.
This is where the numbers have to be ‘common sense’ checked.
Maybe i should call lynn ahaha.
I’ve actually called Lynn too. Lynn believes the Flynn effect is caused by nutrition, so just as people got taller over the 20th century, they also got smarter.
But rushton felt it was mostly caused by flaws in the tests.
“I’ve actually called Lynn too. Lynn believes the Flynn effect is caused by nutrition, so just as people got taller over the 20th century, they also got smarter.”
It is.
I agree with that.
But then you have to entertain the possibikity that americans now have worse nutrition than the 1980s.
But people are taller than they were in the 1980s
“I rememeber some of my professors were delighted to debate rather than pontoficate”
I hope to have more professors that are willing to debate. It’s fun. Especially when you, a prole compared to them, has them stay silent for a while with a question.
“But then you have to entertain the possibikity that americans now have worse nutrition than the 1980s.”
Philosopher read this.
I believe what causes a lot of our cognitive decline as a country can be explained by n6 being 26 times higher than n3. Our hunter gatherer ancestors had a ratio of n3 to n6 at a 1 to 1 ratio. N6 is correlated with obesity through the generations and with cognitive decline. So yea, we need to start eating well.
Well blacks are taller.
And americans in general are wider.
The latter fact is more revelatory.
“And when I see this video, it makes me smile”
That video was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9cH49pUe-I
Thats what Mel Gibson would do. Rushton is a legend.
I emailed with Murray last year to clarify a few things.
Read it here.
http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/452110-charles-murray-ducked-debate-joseph-graves.html
This guy Egalitarian Jay is like Afro, he goes all over the Internet to debate Rushton followers. It’s hilarious. I do agree with some of what he says now though. But yea Dr. Murray’s response to how he “ducked debate with Joseph Graves” is there. I felt so cool that he corresponded with me. One of my heros. The lead author of the bonobo genome also got back to me as well.
And I use my real name when I send my these emails, not my pseudonym.
I see anatoly karlin from unz review sometimes comments
Not only has he commented here but he put me on his blog roll & once described me as the most entertaining HBD blogger
I’m also on steve sailer’s blog roll & he’s commented here too
Also on LOTB’s blog roll & robert lindsay has posted here & wrote an article on his blog praising me
I also suspect some incredibly influential people have posted here under pseudonyms.
Ive only posted a few times on sailers blog. He doesnt let much go through.
I get the very strong impression sailer has to be very restrained. He often posts evidence of zions conspiracy and doesnt say it as such. Its actually comical because as a journalist bringing clues he has to refrain from conspiracy thinking whilst poibting out very unknown facts. For example the weird fascination with american jews and cossack russian imagery.
I do remember him saying ‘that would explain a lot’ when he found out the economist is owned by rotschild.
But steve is hosted by ron unz at this point so any criticism he has had has been to say onlique things like ‘we should copy israels border policy’ and ‘the american press is more obsessed about israel than i am’. Ie he know. Oh he knows. All roads lead to jerusalem. His 10 year fight against immigration isnt against ‘the establisment’. Anymore than chomskys crusade against manufactured consent is against ‘tge establushment’.
Council on foreign relations. Look them up. Great sample of the ‘establishment’.
Ive only posted a few times on sailers blog. He doesnt let much go through
Compared to LOTB he lets everything go through.
If your comments are too taboo for even steve, that should tell you something
But steve is hosted by ron unz at this point so any criticism he has had has been to say onlique things
Unz wrote an article about harvard discriminating against gentiles, & he hosts kevin macdonald & 9/11 truthers. Not all Jews are ethnocentric.
They visit this site because we do real talk here.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Sailer and others have the exact same view on the jews that me and phil do .
I have been reading Sailers stuff on Vdare since back in 2003 and it seems like the man was born with a dog whistle .
He wont question the jew IQ thing because one of the fundamental pillars of the HBD cult is that jews are the master race.
Sailer is to HBD what Tom Cruise is to Scientology.
A non-threatening face for a powerful tool of jewish supremacy.
Whites haven’t benefited in the slightest from HBD. There are only two groups that have benefited from HBD
1., The jew
They can have a ” scientific” explanation for their control of American institutions like the media, the universities and government departments.
Any time someone mentions tribal-networking they can be condemned as “anti-science”
2. Asians
HBD pacifies the right on the question of mass asian immigration and the tidal wave of anchor babies.
HBD also pacifies the right on asian over-representation in colleges by painting them as superiors and ridiculing anyone who questions the validity of an asian perfect 800 SAT-V when the asian can barely speak english.
Steve is very smart. He knows all about the neocons & Jewish immigration activism etc.
But he’s not an anti-Semite. A lot of his fans are but he also has a lot of Jewish fans, so he’ll criticize Jewish power, but he does so constructively & gently. And unlike many in the alt-right, he’s not obsessed with the issue.
I think you are taking the hbd researchers prima facie. Most people do not want to be accused of racism. Even hbd researchers beloeve it or not. So the asians have to be a kind of fob off.
I dont think any gentile hbd researcher or follower seriously desires to be ruled by jews. In fact the whole operation of discussing and bringing these facts to light is despite jewish academic suppression of talk about racial differences.
There are perhaps some like charles murray and people like chris hitchens that might think like that though.
But not sailer. When i say its obvious hes restraining himself its because its obvious he wants to say it but cant.
So he says it like descartes did. Ie makes up convulted and purposefully rube goldberg arguments almost as a joke.
Sorry wrong term. Not prime facie. Verbatim.
Jimmy do you have data showing that Jewish IQ isn’t that high?
>I also suspect some incredibly influential people have posted here under pseudonyms.
Like who?
” and ridiculing anyone who questions the validity of an asian perfect 800 SAT-V when the asian can barely speak english”
Citation needed.
Peepee, Steve Sailer is hardly an HBD blogger. He writes mostly about politics.
And this blog is an Oprah fan club. Are there any pure hbd blogs?
Is Karlin white? He looks very strange. Is it me or does anyone else think his face looks fake?
Something very fishy about this guy.
Could be a crypto.
Could he be a Chechen like the Tsarnaevs?
fishy or slavic?
the jews claimed spassky’s mother was jewish.
in reality spassky was 100% russian. just like smyslov.
but the jewish face and the sometimes russian face have some common features. some russian gentiles look jewish.
1. weak, short chin
2. thick lips
3. long nose

the ability to recognize jews is like musical ability…apparently. few jews have it…really…so they can honestly pretend they aren’t obvious by appearance. i believe that LotB actually believes that rich jews look like WASPs. even though they OBVIOUSLY don’t!
an authentic WASP in journalism (the only one?) is tucker carlson. he looks it. before he got fat deal would have jumped him.
Putin has distinct mongoloid features from the asians who are native to Russia. Remember that Russia is an empire not a country.
Putin is not pure white.
Putin is probably psychopathic.
hymie is very hung up on his chinese and jewish ancestry.
sad!
word of advice: anonymous gay sex doesn’t help.
Jimmy can you explain what you mean by ‘pure white’?
RR
” Jimmy can you explain what you mean by ‘pure white’? ” </b
1. Caucasoid Y-DNA and Mt-DNA haplogroups
2. No negroid, mongoloid etc admixture.
3. White skin
I don’t think race mixing can entirely explain the caucasoid appearance of many Indians because many are 100% caucasoid in facial features, skull shape, and hair type, yet have completely black skin. Race mixing is usually distributed uniformly across all traits. But many indians look more like pure caucasoids who just evolved black skin (backwards evolution). Many look like white computer geeks painted black & have high IQs
Re: Caucasoids:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/01/stop-using-the-word-caucasian-to-mean-white/
“backwards evolution”
….The fuck does that mean?
Jimmy if you were to say Yamna descendants I would agree. Whites are a new race, 6500 yo.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130423-european-genetic-history-dna-archaeology-science/
http://www.unz.com/gnxp/our-magnificent-bastard-race/
PP Indians share deep Siberian ancestry with Europeans, which is why they have similar structure.
Read the latest pop gen work on Siberians.
Yes, I met many dark-skinned Indians in college who looked like whites in black face.
” I don’t think race mixing can entirely explain the caucasoid appearance of many Indians ”
I have worked and gone to college with countless Indians. The vast majority do not have caucasoid features .
Go on google images and type in ” Indian man ” .
The bollywood stars who do look caucasoid are all mixed race .
Indians are even less caucasoid than the Middle Easterners.
The proof of that is that when an indian mixes with a European the child looks indian but when a middle easterner mixes with a European the child looks completely white.
Avan Jogia => Indian + European
Stef El Shaarawy => Arab + European
ttp://i68.tinypic.com/dfym9u.jpg
Stef El Shaarawy = > Arab + European
an authentic WASP in journalism (the only one?) is tucker carlson. he looks it. before he got fat deal would have jumped him.
wtf dude. you think i’m a nympho?! such a dirty mind.
Sad!
hindi, pashto, etc. are indo-european languages. india was conquered by aryans, white people. they mixed with the local dravidian speakers to varying degrees.
hymie should consider iranians and some afghans to be white. but he doesn’t.
are the basque, finns, or hungarians white? they don’t even speak a white language. what about caucasians, like stalin, beria, and the kardashians. are they white?
in europe i noticed how dark the indigenes were compared to americans, even in blighty. only ringo had blue eyes. american whites are fair as whites go.
think? i know you’re a nympho. i didn’t believe they existed until i saw your comments here. that’s why i assume you’re trans or peepee.
As the blogger ‘Pumpkin Person’ has demonstrated conclusively beyond any doubt sasquatches are known for their very high sex drives and sexual assault capabilities.
Some people even have claimed this ‘furore Sasquatchia’ has lived on in descendants of these mixed unions.
Deal, ‘xhe’ c. 5 months old
To quote Marsha Murphy, experienced psychological professional and certified whore:
“Deal is what we call in the community a ‘truck stop whore’ which would imply an undying need for tawdry and unhygienic rhythmic gyrations in men’s toilets at various times of the day. This is a kind of mating call that has the purpose of notifying men to the ‘trucker whores’ availability for mating enterprise. I myself have been in that situation a few times. It can be a very rewarding experience for all trucker involved”.
n europe i noticed how dark the indigenes were compared to americans, even in blighty. only ringo had blue eyes. american whites are fair as whites go.
I didn’t observe that at all. Most of the Englishmen I observed were very pale, like they didn’t get a lot of sun.
maybe you’re right for ATL. eye and hair color, not just skin color.
america’s white population is predominantly from parts of europe where blue eyes and light hair are most common, especially in the midwest and northwest.
Whiny
” hindi, pashto, etc. are indo-european languages. india was conquered by aryans, white people. they mixed with the local dravidian speakers to varying degrees.
Indo-European was originally a propaganda term used by the British to trick the dumb Indians into accepting British rule.
Smart Indians know this, in fact i remember reading a great article on this by an Indian. I’ll try to find it.
I don’t deny what the linguists say but anyone who has heard these people speaking on campus will laugh at the idea that English and HIndi are similar languages.
The liberals push it because its a way of linking Europeans with lesser beings. Its their way of trying to humble us.
you’re right about whites invading india and mixing with the natives, but the mixing was nowhere near enough to make those mongrels the majority.
“hymie should consider iranians and some afghans to be white. but he doesn’t. ”
A majority of Iranians are brown and the same goes for Afghans
Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936) wrote that during his time Afghanistan was almost completely white.
I remember a German ethnologist from the 19th century describing Iran,Iraq, Arabia and Afghanistan as being almost completely white as well. In fact they classified them as Mediterranean.
As with most problems in that part of the world, it was the British who did it.
The british had a habit of importing millions of indians and blacks to be their cheap labor in the newly conquered lands of the British empire.
When the British empire ended they just abandoned them for the natives to deal with.
The problem with that is that those colonial implants bred like rats.
Today you will find all non-White people in Afghanistan having Y-DNA haplogroups from India, while the fierce Pashtuns are of the R haplogroup the most common haplogroup in Europe.
in Yemen , Oman and Saudi Arabia there is an incredible amount of people with Y-DNA E an L which are both native to Africa.
They also have an incredible amount of assimilated Indians . In fact, the richest indian in the world was born in Yemen.
And people wonder why everyone hates the British.
Even Europeans don’t like the British.
I remember being in a bar in Germany during the 2006 World Cup and hearing Italians and Ukrainians cheering as Portugal scored the winning penalty to knock England out in the Quarter-Finals.
I have never seen anyone cheer the defeat of Germany or Holland or Spain.
There seems to be a universal dislike of the the British character.
are the basque, finns, or hungarians white? they don’t even speak a white language. what about caucasians, like stalin, beria, and the kardashians. are they white?
1. 85% of Basques have R1b Y-DNA so obviously they are white.
as for language you have to remember that the “indo-europeans” were invaders. They were not native to Europe.
The Basque language is native to Europe
2. Fins same as above.
3. Hungary same
4. the people of the Caucasus are a mixed bag. Most are white though.
5. the Kardashians are Armenians and they are a very strange looking people.
They range from Ashkenazi to brown
Their numbers are not large enough for me to care, but i personally wouldn’t want them in my country.
I believe the Kardashians and the Jersey shore were promoted to normalize the mexican invasion.
They wanted to normalize darker phenotypes
Trumpy namedropped singer in his presser in the first 2 mins.
In case you havent worked it out, paul singer is one of the elders of zion.
Trump has to make sure his comms are protected. You cant play 3d chess when the supercomputer is making sure everyone within 2 degrees of relationships to your contacts is vetted.
In the end zion will have to be openly confronted. But not yet.
They should put trumps pressers with jew journalists on ppv.
I remember staying up all night for the debates.
It was like staying up for WWF No Mercy and WWF Survivor Series back in the day. This is fireworks!! Hahahaha. Such good tv.
That hilary debate when he killed her on the clinton rapes i lost my mind on public transport and started yelling like a cock fight punter.
That hilary debate when he killed her on the clinton rapes i lost my mind on public transport and started yelling like a cock fight punter.
lmaoo
Dude, you’re crazy. No wonder you’ve been fired 14 times!
What a character.
if you can take a dick you can take a joke.
What’s your favorite match of all time?
you’re joking, right? neither of you has actually watched professional wrestling.
Yes. I didn’t just watch Elimination Chamber on Sunday.
i can understand watching UFC, etc. prof shoe loves it.
but it’s real.
pro wrestling is fake, vulgar, boring, and gay…not to mention prole.
time to go back to italy.
actually i’m not sure if UFC is real…all of the time…it is real most of the time though.
you see how class riven america is [vulgarity redacted by PP, feb 17, 2017]. RR might as well be from mars.
the one good thing about hockey is…
1. it gets the pro wrestling fans.
2. it’s a real sport.
you see how class riven america is. RR might as well be from mars.
Very true. RR, afro & melo see the world so differently from you, G-man and I.
Speaking to the lower social classes (even when they’re adopted into money) is like trying to learn another language.
“Very true. RR, afro & melo see the world so differently from you, G-man and I.
Speaking to the lower social classes (even when they’re adopted into money) is like trying to learn another language.”
What so you do for work? Where do you come from? How do you see the world? How much money do you make?
How much money do you make?
A lot more than you. But it’s not about money; it’s more about taste, aesthetics, and values.
How much money do you make? “A lot more than you” is not a number. What kind of taste, aesthetics and values do you have? Why are you always so incredibly vague?
“Speaking to the lower social classes (even when they’re adopted into money) is like trying to learn another language.”
Yes, because your love of Oprah and hot chocolate is incredibly high class and sophisticated.
You’re a surveyor. Based on median income you should have an IQ 103. Then again you have like a dozen jobs supposedly.
http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2011/01/average-iq-by-occupation-estimated-from.html
“it’s more about taste, aesthetics, and values.”
Simply basing off the intellectual proprieties of what you have written so far, there is no Identifiable proxy for gauging your value on any of those respective traits. In other words your blatant implications have no bearing other than simple assertion from you and a random sock puppet.
I don’t get the feeling Afrosapiens has low-class genes or behavior. He likes to do the alpha-male, high-T chest-thumping and talk about his appearance, but he still strikes me as too thoughtful to be “low-class”. Maybe the genes he inherited are prole, given his Haitian origins.
Quand le chat n’est pas là, les souris dansent…
See, I’m such a hoodlum that I speak my native French perfectly, my English is more than decent, my Italian’s on fleek, my German’s respectable but it needs improvement (I need to get rid of those Zurich patterns that I have from my sister and her husband). I read Latin and still have notions in classical Greek. As an educated Roman, I have passive understanding of Spanish, Portuguese and Romanian, my knowledge of English and German helps me a lot in Dutch, Afrikaans and some Scandinavian languages. My gal’ is gradually giving me a conversational level in the Moroccan dialect of Arabic as well as some notions in modern Hebrew. On top of that, I can initiate conversations in the languages of most of the many countries I went to, including Haitian Kreyol and some obscure African dialects.
‘Nough bragging, there are many more intellectual things in which I’m impressive but I guess they’re all low class, y’knowhamsayin’.
I like clubbing, gym, sports, cars, racing, visual arts, watches, fashion, beauty, the army, traveling, sex, Ferias in Dax, Nîmes, Bayonne and Pamplona, Oktoberfest in Munich, Mardi Gras in the “Newahleans”, Glastonbury Festival, Rock in Rio, Tomorrowland, Carnivals in the West Indies and now in Venice. I’m happy just playing ball with my hoe in the swimming pool on a sunny afternoon, or running at the beach with my Porsche-addicted crackhead surgeon neighbor, listening to the trashiest rap in our tacky Ralph Lauren outfits. My gal’, my pals and I are basically golden wiggers.
Who cares ? We have fun and no one is a living stereotype of any label. Of course, when people first see me, intelligence is probably the last thing that comes to their mind. But I’m sohigh class that I’m gonna quote Oprah:
“I love being underestimated”
But if you want me to tell you things that I do find low class and tacky, here is the list:
-Oprah
-Jungle jumbo junk
-TV
-Racism
-Antisemitism
-Conspiracy theories and HBD that both reveal staggering ignorance
-Unfit bodies
-Lack of sense of fashion
-Horror movies
-A social science major from a non-elite college
….
The list is too long but see, I don’t care about your status, I care about what you say and there is something about my girlfriend that you said and you need to apologize about (that’s one thing we do in my social class). You said our kids would be disabled and you really hit a nerve because my girl and I are aware that Jews are at risk for a large number of diseases. So I’m asking you to apologize and I’m only gonna judge you based on that.
I’m not apologizing for a fucking thing.
Go fuck yourself.
This is high class peepee.
To quote Mug of Pee, a gentleman is never rude unintentionally
If you wanna give the illusion of high class, avoid quoting Donald Trump’s groupie. And find a girl who will be in awe with your classiness.
this is just sad!
afro!
my darling!
the only reason i make fun of you is that i’m jealous.
the same goes for pill, but he’ll never admit it.
if i knew afro were so sensitive and humorless i’d never have picked on him.
that’s the french for you.
sad!
but he should stop wearing billboards. and he should stop trying to live up to “black masculinity”…a bad joke among the elite…a very bad joke.
I don’t mind your trdayolling Mugabe, I’m one of the last person who’s not yet calling you Mug of Pee, the only time I did so was when I was stoned and drunk and mistook someone else for you.
Don’t mention jealousy, ratchet people like me interpret all criticism as jealousy so you don’t need to tell me.
Thanks for the advice too, but I told you: I’ll be back to you when I want to become a lonely alcoholic. Right now I’m the happiest man on earth, and I’m making my hoodrat the happiest woman on earth, get her singing this song all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKj63uLvj10
jesus christ afro!
focus on your legal career.
stop being “that black guy”!
I’m far more than just “that black guy”, I’m French to begin with.
Beckford was born in Rochester, New York on December 19, 1970 to an Afro-Jamaican father of Panamanian descent, Lloyd Beckford, and a Chinese Jamaican mother, Hillary Dixon Hall.
this is the guy afro thinks he is.
what women really want…
the black guy who looks likes really good looking white guy…

…looks like a…
some things…
last…
a long time!
If women wanted wanted black guys with white facial features, then it seems like Indians (from India) would do better. But from what I can tell, they do terribly (with some exceptions).
If you control for height, Indians probably do well. Hitler was very impressed with them.
well, now that I actually look, that guy has sorta black features. Combine that with the blues eyes and chiseled jaw, that explains his success!
indians do not have white features.
The ones who do are mixed race.
These guys are from the Brahmin Caste.
//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js
If the highest caste has visable non-white features then what about the rest?
” If you control for height, Indians probably do well. ”
average height in the U.S is 5’9 which is 93rd percentile for Indian men.
doesn’t your site support that script?
anyway, here is the pic of the Brahmins
He looks like:
Freddie Ljungberg, former Arsenal player.
Jimmy:
We conclude that Indian castes are most likely to be of proto-Asian origin with West Eurasian admixture resulting in rank-related and sex-specific differences in the genetic affinities of castes to Asians and Europeans.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC311057/
proves the point that if one has the potential all he or she need do is walk into the agency.
you have it or you don’t.
the best mug shot ever?
no!
Hollywood actors are much higher on the totem pole to models.
Sure, Tyson Beckford is one of my inspirations but I look more like a mix of Trey Songz and Ne-Yo. But I don’t have Asian ancestry, slated eyes occur in Africans like freckles among the French. And judging from how big I am from everywhere, my Asian ancestors should have been Chinamen on steroids.
i suppose the point of uniquely ugly models is…
these clothes will make you unique.
people want to be different, and there’s no market differentiation, no branding, if everyone’s models look the same.
i think this theory is wrong. the subliminal message fashion ads should have is…
these clothes will make you beautiful.
and thus the best models, the most effective models, are simply the most beautiful/attractive people in face, in body, or both.
i should start my own agency. not slant eyed haitians.
has it ever occurred to hymie that milo is faking his gayness?
even if not he doesn’t have sex with black male prostitutes every weekend like he claims.
That’s an interesting theory. It makes me think: how did he get famous in the first place?
It wasn’t a blog, books or academic work. He just
Appeared.
Why would tv book such an eccentric character to make alt right arguments. Especially a pokemon (gay). Wouldn’t tv book a more stereotypical ‘nazi’ from central casting?
That being said, maybe I’m thinking like Jimmy. Having a homosexual alt right spokesman is convoluted and breaks the Keep It Simple Silly Rule of risk management.
Nobody high IQ in their right mind chucks a freakshow like that at the wall and takes the risk it catches on in unexpected ways.
To Milo’s credit, being a gay man makes his somewhat immune from NAZI! and he’s allowed more time to talk.
He’s not a manchurian candidate. But Robert may be right, a high IQ guy putting on an act.
If so, Robert’s made a very insightful observation.
gay men, however hard they try, always appear weak. like the kid all the bullies picked on.
milo doesn’t.
furthermore his camp appears affected/studied.
you see this on the occasion that he isn’t being just a comedian. he doesn’t sound gay.
he may not even be half jewish.
he’s a celibate straight man who puts on an act for the money.
recall how david bowie pretended to be gay, bi, trans…for the money.
half jewish flaming homosexual alt-right icon.
it can’t be real.
can it?
you live in denial about most things.
as i have said before, you are like the child of a deadbeat dad .
again hymie. i’m not into power bottoms like you and your dad.
before responding you should remember that two wrongs don’t make a right, just ask your parents.
two wongs don’t make a white hymie.
no hymie.
we’re the exact same height and hat size.
but you’re a bean pole and i’m a defensive end.
now i’m 220 lbs of muscle.
it’s genetic. when i consume too many calories the weight goes on in muscle not fat. rare but not unique. there was a bbc documentary on “what if thin people forced themselves to eat too much?” all of them got fatter except for one chinese guy who just got muscly. that chink and i have the same gene apparently.
a lot thinner than those guys dancing around the girl in a pink dress sex obsessed sasquatch posted.
but she’s right in one respect. if my metabolism were normal i’d look like depardieu. instead i look like an off season arnold.
I never said I’m attracted to these men. I just found the song hilarious.
You have a dirty mind.
Sad!
i never said…
sasquatch! comrade!
you needn’t say it to make it known.
…
just like afro needn’t declare “i’m gay!”
yeah.
iiiiiiiii
have dirty mind.
I had the misfortune of having several interactions with Gypsies during my travels in Europe. Truly terrible and annoying people, regardless of a few geniuses like Django Rheinhardt and Grigoraș Dinicu
“when i consume too many calories the weight goes on in muscle not fat.”
Wow, donate your body to science when you die.
Do you know if this is literally true? Did you get a DXA scan before and after to see this?
““what if thin people forced themselves to eat too much?” all of them got fatter except for one chinese guy who just got muscly. that chink and i have the same gene apparently.”
What gene is this?
Here’s some info for you.
There was a study on Vermont prisoners and the effects of overeating on the body’s metabolism. They were fed arounf 5,000 kcal per day, and were monitored to make sure they ate food. Some people weren’t gaining, so they upped the kcal. Eventually, they were eating up to 10,000 kcal a day. Their metabolism increased by 50 percent in order to burn more energy to decrease fat mass! When they went back to their normal diets, they effortlessly lost weight. So, this shows that thin people have a faster metabolism while the obese have a slow one.
Read:
https://books.google.com/books?id=50CUCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=vermont+prison+fung&source=bl&ots=UR47AoR25f&sig=NVPe4ZBrWeF_uOYqn-V-7nx3_yo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW8bj0i5jSAhXH6yYKHVeMC_gQ6AEIMzAE#v=onepage&q=vermont%20prison%20fung&f=false
And Dr. Fung’s blog post on the matter:
So, with a combination of scientific curiosity and loose ethical control (hello – informed consent?), some people were made to eat upwards of 10,000 calories/day. 10,000 calories per day! One man only gained 10 pounds with all that. However, most people did gain upwards of 20% of body weight. What happened to their energy expenditure? Metabolism, or Total Energy Expenditure (TEE) increased by 50%.
What is happening? Well, in response to increased calories, the body is increasing the energy it expends. Imagine that you have a fireplace in which you use 1 piece of wood every day. Now all of a sudden, you are getting 5 pieces of wood per day every day. Don’t you think you would want to start using a bit more wood? Of course. The body is also not that stupid that it would still use the same energy, so it increases TEE and we feel great. More energy. No coldness etc.
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/the-astonishing-overeating-paradox-calories-part-x/
You can’t cure homophobia, you just cant…
or racism…until…

a typo is an opportunity.
NSEH…the name of my modeling agency.
N.o(t) S.lant E.yed H.aitians.
it’s 9:52 in paris and no comments from afro, [vulgarity redacted by PP, feb 17, 2017]. sad!
I was in Venice with my gal’. Some real Kardashianesque Carnival decadence. Many things to confess in church, many selfies that should never have been taken.
except there was no vulgarity. just something [vulgarity redacted by PP, feb 17, 2017] didn’t want known.
sad!
PP, if you ever return to the horror theme on your blog, could you do Jerry Sandusky and some more serial killers?
I’ll try but i have to know about a topic before i can blog about it.
You’re more than welcome to guest blog. You express yourself well and your general knowledge is incredibly high.
“but i have to know about a topic before i can blog about it.”
…..
………………
He’s gots be Mugabe
Jerry wrote a book about his life. That might be good for biographical information. Although if you tried an idea density analysis it probably won’t work because I think he had a ghostwriter.
Curious. Why is Sandusky’s IQ of interest?
I just think he’s fascinating. I heard about his son being arrested recently for sexual assault and he popped into my mind.
and no, I WASNT MOLESTED YOU SICKOS
Hahaha.
Well there appears 2 general principles in design.
1. In an engineering sense, one desires efficiency and/or risk management. Therefore the number of predicates must be as low as possible, and more importantly measurable to both monitor risk, and also iterate a better version if needed.
2. In a fraud sense, one desires opaqueness and lack of record keeping. For example money laundering, tax avoidance or financial engineering (which is really legal engineering).
I think these two principles of design can help one figure out what narrative makes more sense.
When engineering a fraud, you combine the two principles.
In a fraud sense, one desires opaqueness and lack of record keeping.
UCB admissions.
Reading Ferguson’s Empire and his exposition of the evangelical missionaries of the British empire like David Livingstone or the people who abolished slavery, I’m minded to think about the SJW.
The whites have a kind of fanatical obsession with ‘doing the right thing’ as Jayman showed.
Its good in the sense that eventually they can create Scandinavian Fordist economies unlike the East Asian states who really on Western aggregate demand because they can’t stand paying their serfs.
On the other hand, it makes them very vulnerable to base predators like the Jewish refugees they took in some centuries ago. Its certainly something unique to whites. The number of NGOs per capita vs the gulf, east asia or parts of Latin America is pretty astounding.
Afro’s good fortune is an example of the ‘do the right thing’ approach.
Christianity was invented by Jews in the Middle East, but only took off with whites/Meds in Europe. The races choose the religions. If not, Immanuel Kant would have prescribed a rationale for being nice based on ‘reason’.
pill’s best post ever.
read.
re-read.
Scandinavian Fordist economies
what the US would be if homogeneous.
as hymie would say…
there’s still time to change the road you’re on…
somethings
last
a long time.
<You’re more than welcome to guest blog. You express yourself well and your general knowledge is incredibly high
Awww PP, don’t make me blush!😊
Ok, I don’t actually blush…
i don’t recommend accumulating “information” intentionally.
there’s a certain point that’s enough.
few reach it, but…
any more is STUPID.
get to the point that the world is boring.
you’ve arrived.
i don’t recommend accumulating “information” intentionally.
High IQ people accumulate information unintentionally. One characteristic of the truly brilliant is knowing a lot about subjects they have no interest in. Jensen described a professor who had nothing but contempt for spectator sports, yet to his horror, knew far more about baseball than a borderline retardate who was obsessed with it.
For this reason, despite Livingstone’s work in Africa and Africa’s European heritage, I expect Islam will eventually override Christianity in Africa, because it’s more masculine and violent.
And where there is great femininity, one will find the creed of ‘social justice’, Zion’s bastard child. It is women that allow SJWsm to proceed. Where women are empowered, Zion’s tapeworm will reek havoc on the family, society and critically weaken it to predators.
Islam is much more feminine than christianity if you judge it by the holy books. And Christian africans are super macho. The thing that will make muslims influencial in West Africa is their relative poverty making their relative birthrate outpace the christians, TFR in northern nigeria and niger is like 6-8 kids per woman when its like 3-4 in southern (christian) nigeria.
https://blogs.cfainstitute.org/investor/2017/02/16/what-you-believe-is-the-biggest-obstacle-to-global-economic-growth/
CFA charterholders don’t understand how the economy works.
That’s a failure in verbal intelligence, not quant.
You need to have NARR ability – what is a more plausible story.
Not COG – what is happening.
In this particular question, populism will lead to greater growth because it will lead to redistribution, greater take home pay of workers and expel lower IQ immigrant patsies.
The respondents can’t figure out populism is a correction to disequilibria, not an impediment to ‘growth’ or accounting growth from surplus extraction.
I suppose most of them can’t figure out surplus extraction.
peepee still accepts the left right dichotomy.
sad!
…
That’s a failure in verbal intelligence, not quant.
guy!
CFA math IQ is a joke compared to SoA/CAS exams.
a joke!
an example of how…
the “free market” does NOT find the best.
there’s much more demand for the CFA and the CPA…
half jewish girl i’m still in love with referred to the CPA as…
C.an’t P.ass A.ctuarial exams.
God i want her inside me!
Most economics courses in colleges are fairly simple applied math courses.
If economics as an academic professions fails, its because the professors have too low verbal intelligence to think about how an economy works conceptually or theoretically.
Ant people have no meta logic. They like symmetry in squares.
Yeah, the actuarial exams are another level indeed. I happen to think actuaries are the best trained finance professionals in terms of pure training.
Phil
” I happen to think actuaries are the best trained finance professionals in terms of pure training ”
Actuaries are merely pencil pushers who do routine things that you could get a computer to do.
There are a lot of liabilities so they use humans instead.
I have more respect for economics grads at a places like Bain, McKinsey or Boston Consulting.
I have a cousin who works for McKinsey . The starting salary for a business analyst straight out of college is $75,000.
He majored in economics at Harvey Mudd.
phill is right when he says that modern economics is applied math.
but i remember hearing a prof tell me that most social scientists have a major inferiority complex so they try to use math in their papers, even when its completely unnecessary.
If i had to rank majors by the math ability of the students then it would look like this:
1. Physics
2. Math
3. Computer Science
4. Electrical Engineering
5. Economics
That’s what it looked like at my college. Other college would be different.
Well according to this its 1. operations research, 2. physics, 3. math…and 4/5. actuarial sciences/chem engineering (others floating near are sub disciplines of these).
Funnily enough eco, has a higher Quant than comp science according to this.
That’s intended major .
In the U.S you gain admission to colleges based on SAT/ACT and GPA. Once you get in you get to take any classes you want and then see what you like or can handle.
in the rest of the world you apply for a specific subject and can only study that.
CS is sexy because of the PR campaigns of Apple, Google etc so more people have the intention of majoring in it.
Many people think they can handle CS but as soon as algorithms come out , they bail quicker than a jew who sees a discount.
The people who actually graduate in CS are completely different, which is proven by the high demand for CS grads
The free market is the best measure of value.
“The free market is the best measure of value.”
As an eco grad I’m supposed to agree with you. But as a person with common sense, that’s not always true.
” As an eco grad I’m supposed to agree with you. But as a person with common sense, that’s not always true.”
The true value of an asset can only be found in a free market.
I don’t believe we should worship the free market.
I believe in a free market with borders , public healthcare and public banks.
No, markets are institutions which have political/eco actors.
You can have monopolies, oligopolies or cartels. Should people be free to create cartels? Why not? Its freedom of association.
Just like nation states in fact that create boundaries on markets i.e. labour markets.
You can have patents. You can have tort law for malpractice in some jurisdictions and some no which ratchets up/down prices on things. You can have info asymmetry i.e fraud.
The free market is the best mechanism we have. By no means the only way to value something. You should look into accountancy as an example of ways of valuing assets not liquid or notional – i.e derivatives/real estate/leases.
I’m not accusing you of being a libertarian.
Libertarians are engineers that read Rand and think that is economics. Conversely academic economists are engineers that read Rand and think its economics.
You also have a logical error there. If the market was a true value of an asset at any time….i.e strong form efficiency.
There would be no speculation.
Soros would be working in McDonalds giving psychology degrees to Robert with his happy meal.
i imagine that 150 years ago every male american looked like me or a thin tucker carlson…not like hymie…
real americans like me imagine the super race that were our ancestors…
the nazis imagined the same. but their ancestors were more distant.
they were the indo-europeans. not the anglo-americans.
didn’t you say you were irish ?
the Irish are not WASPs.
Scots-Irish were effectively WASPs ( James Buchanan)
Bet you didn’t know that during the 18th and 19th century most British empire immigrants were Irish, not English/Scottish.
People assume the 20th century irish migration caused Americans to have major Irish ancestry but in fact the Irish had been probably the second major ethnicity going back to even before Reconstruction.
yeah but they were all protestant though.
Scots-Irish = Protestants from Ireland
Adams, Munroe, Buchanan, McKinley etc
I knew a guy from the valley with the very irish surname ” Walsh” who called Catholics “Vatican sleeper cells” lol he was a little crazy though.
Maybe they were assimilated irish.
I am not anti-Irish or anti-Catholic.
I find Catholics to be more jew-wise than the protestants i grew up with.
mainline protestants are better than the low class evangelicals.
Unfortunately we have been outbred by those redneck undesirables.
The people who built this country are now a minority.
maher really is half jewish…
milo appears tonight on Real Time…
what would be the response?
are you really gay?
something tells me it would be awkward and un-convincing.
Milo is really gay, OBVIOUSLY.
only to autists.
You and philosopher can at times be just as socially retarded as most autistics, just in the opposite direction. Schizophrenia is largely the opposite of autism, so just as autistics can’t see deception when it’s actually there, you two see deception when it’s not there (imagining that Milo has been faking gayness for years, you imagining Philosopher is a closet Jew faking his anti-Semitism, etc.)
tony hopkins is obviously hitler.
nothing on jewtube. sad!
…
the jews are CONSPICUOUSLY keen to promote the murder of jews by germans. to make it a thing.
CONSPICUOUSLY un-interested in answering why.
why? why did the greeks, the germans, do it?
the explanations proffered are…
a joke.
…
the dog whistle is LOUD.
DEAFENING.
but what can the fuhrer say?
no UCB grads in his cabinet?
the autism is strong…
let’s make it clear motherfuckers…
verdun, the somme, passchendaele…
if forgotten…
will be remembered.
the war?
it’s still here.
it always be.
the stain that can’t be removed.
all the boys i danced with were dead.
some…
things…
last a long time.
some
things
last
forever…
gibson also appeared in Gallipoli…
pill is an australian nationalist.
so he sucks gibson’s cock extra hard.
Don’t take the good lord gibson’s name in vain like that.
how do i know?
lots of saffers pill said.
is pill dutch?
no.
so he’s ANZ.
The amount of mentally ill people in HBD is staggering
im not
Who’s mentally ill.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=muf3XYTXfHk%3Fstart%3D578%26end%3D664
proof enough. trump or trumpstein. it makes no difference. they’ve won. it’s over. wilders, le pen, whoever. this year. next year. whenever. it’s a fait accompli. the alternatives to the alternative right cannot resist.
There’s also the engineer’s argument. That redistribution only works when providing capital/liquidity to those who can create more capital to replenish the common weal.
Giving money to sinkworlders destroys capital.
people like peepee think that advocates of the stockholm school of economics are motivated by envy or “social justice” or “taking care of one another”.
there is a purely economic argument for scandinavian socialism. the economy is a system. everyone depends on everyone else. the rich don’t build their own mansions. they haven’t made their fortunes alone on a desert island.
henry ford understood this.
I doubt many economic lefties are motivated by that logic except maybe folks like warren Buffett.
But it is true. In countries with great economic inequality, not only do the poor die young, but the rich do too.
Oprah is the biggest fraud the media ever pulled. She’s a low rent actress who cried on cue and made like she was one of you. Then 2008 rolled around and when all the gals of Feminism and Gynosupremacy were calling for Xena the Female President Hillary, Oprah went black and said all you girls need to give up the White girl for the blackety black. Her career such as it was died that day.
She bought out a cable channel and has near zero eyeballs now. After all was said and played, true to form all day. All the wimmens were kinda sad, but mudville will always vote for black.
While it’s true that her popularity has dipped a bit in recent years, that had less to do with her electing Obama and more to do with the internet replacing TV as the dominant medium and the fact that people get tired of the same face dominating the culture since the 1980s & want someone younger.
But her talk show remained #1 in the ratings until she ended it in 2011, and now even the cable network Discovery gave her (she didn’t buy it) is reaching millions of viewers and is on 24/7.
http://variety.com/2016/tv/ratings/tv-ratings-oprah-winfreys-greenleaf-premiere-1201801597/
And if all that weren’t impressive enough, she just became a correspondent on 60 minutes which reaches 16 million Americans per episode. Every time people think she’s going to fade away, she always finds a way to adapt and reinvent herself.
Pumpkin dodged the question. If Oprah is a feminist and supporter of women, why did she dump Hildebeest (Michelle Obama’s term, not mine) and latch on to ‘Blackety Mc Magic Negro Blackenstein morally superior Black Man von blackface aa hire’.
Because, just like the OJ trial, the black female jurors demonstrate tribalism.
Which is to say, Pumpkin banning me relentlessly would be fine if I were black bashing whites.
Isn’t that true brainwashed Peepee.
Are you only now realising rac-ism = tribalism for whites – i.e. banned.
Or is that ‘anti-un goodthink- semitic-semantic’?
rac-ism = tribalism for whites
Duh!
Kevin macdonald has made the same point long before you philosofool
Jimmy is right. Many of these so called ‘atheists’ like Hitchens, Maher and Harris hardly say anything about judaism which is the foundation religion to Christianity and Islam.
Its a jew scam to throttle enemy religions.
Religions are ideologies to encourage shared norms of behaviour, not just designations of a priori truth. Jews don’t like homogenous shared norms for the obvious reasons I have talked about at length ad absurdum.
Now Dawkins seems to not be a jew. And I do remember the God Delusion mentioning Judaism a few times as a barbaric religion. So Dawkins, even if I disagree with him, should be respected as a scholar and not a hack.
Its a jew scam
It’s mono theism.
And its rhetoric works.
Christ is Agape and Gnostic logos.
Who is it that Killed all the Gnostics?
The Roman emperor, the pope.
Who is it that dominated other cultures?
Who took over the church when it grew too large?
Rome, that is who.
Who said give to Cesar what is Cesar and God what is Gods?
Who said that the gentiles were equal to Jews?
Jesus.
It was Roman that mutilated agape and used it to rule Christendom.
Christian don’t believe in crucifixion, it was the leaders of Judea that killed them after Jesus was killed.
Saul on the road to Damascus, Why did he kill so many?
Because Jesus was the enemy of the Temple in Jerusalem.
Because Jesus was Gnostic and Luna, the moon.
Mary and Jesus were the same.
Woman was equal to God.
The male deity is always at war with the female deity.
Because the male deity sees femininity as weakness.
But the male deity cannot win,
because both male and female are the same deity.
Christ was a female deity.
So that is the reason it dominated Europe.
Because Agape is not about war.
War can not win, Mars cannot win.
Venus will win.
Luna.
You can’t kill female energy.
No religion can kill female energy.
The reason Rome fell is that is was Ruled by Mars.
The nazis were ruled by Mars.
Everything is paganism is the same in Christianity.
Accept that Christianity is ruled by Venus.
All other paganism is ruled by Mars.
Because Venus paganism always leads to the spread of Christianity in that culture. Because that is how Mars is defeated in that culture. Because The gnostics understand the difference between Mars and Venus. Everything that trys to dominate Venus is destroyed because the scriptures tell the Gnostics which people are of Mars, even the Martian Christians versus the Venus Christians. There is no scam, just Martians trying to dominate Venus.
…to my intense surprise it dawned upon me that without in the least intending to I had written nothing more or less than a success story. For all the persons with whom I have been concerned got what they wanted: Afro Santa Claus; Peepee an assured position backed by a substantial fortune in an active and cultured community; G Man a steady and lucrative job, with an office to go to from nine till six every day; Deal Mugabe; Hymie death; and Mugabe happiness. And however superciliously the highbrows carp, we the public in our heart of hearts all like a success story; so perhaps my ending is not so unsatisfactory after all.
LOLWUT???
Someone get this guy a gig, we got a comedian here!
Oh, that’s from Razor’s Edge… I had to look it up
i should have specified hymie is not exactly suicidal. what he wants is death by horse penis.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/dhs-insider-warns-its-spy-versus-spy
Well there you go. Proof of Zion.
You all thought I was mad. Hahaha. I get passionate about evil people preying on the stupid and nice. I’m the good guy. You were all to brainwashed to see it.
In real life I would tend to have more sympathy for the likes of Anime, Santo and Gondwana than the soft psychopathic race of man.
There are things I know, that are as bad as co-ordinated paedophilia. I suffer so.
Do you have any Jew friends in your personal life?
No, his friends are Pikeys, gypsies and Ukrainian truckers. As usual in the European upper class.
Lol.
The funny thing is you think you’re not brainwashed, your ego is too large to accept you’ve been conned.
Trump has not been able to set up “safe zones” because he refuses Turkey/Russia’s request that the “safe zone” also be a “no fly zone” a la Hillary.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-saudi-idUSKBN15D14L
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_zone_(Syria)
Trump and Putin have a pact to destroy Globalism, with Putin defending the interests of ALL Whites and not just Russians or his wallets.
Evil Zion/Netanyahu attempt to foil this but Trump is a super genius playing Netanyahu.
Are all White Nationalists this autistic?
People really believe this. It’s incredible.
deal’s theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlJGrIyt-X8&feature=player_embedded