From about 1917 to 2006, large representative samples of American black adults have scored about one standard deviation below American white adults on the type of verbal and performance IQ tests first created for screening WWI recruits, and later borrowed by David Wechsler to use in his wildly popular scales; considered the gold standard in the field.
Although the black-white test score gap has shrunk somewhat on more scholastic tests where it used to be absurdly high, the longevity and consistency of the gap on the most conventional and respected of official IQ tests has led some to conclude that it is mostly or entirely genetic.
The single most powerful piece of supporting evidence for the genetic hypothesis is the Minnesota Transracial adoption study in which white, black and mixed-race kids were raised from early childhood in white upper-class homes. Although the adopted white and black kids scored well above the national white and black means (corrected for outdated norms) of about 102 and 86 respectively (U.S. norms) in childhood (though not at 17), large racial IQ gaps were found among the adopted kids at both ages.
However the study had a problem, as explained by its authors Scarr and Weinberg (1976):
It is essential to note, however, that the groups also differed significantly (p < .05) in their placement histories and natural mother’s education. Children with two black parents were significantly older at adoption, had been in the adoptive home a shorter time, and had experienced a greater number of preadoption placements. The natural parents of the black/black group also averaged a year less of education than those of the black/white group, which suggests an average difference between the groups in intellectual ability. There were also significant differences between the adoptive families of black/black and black/white children in father’s education and mother’s IQ.[1]
Because the children with two black biological parents were adopted later than the children with only one black biological parent, it’s best to exclude them from our analysis and focus only the IQ gap between the adopted kids with two white biological parents and those with one black and one white biological parent. Not only were both these groups adopted early into white upper-class homes, but since both had white biological mothers, both enjoyed the benefits of a white prenatal environment. What the study found was that by age seven, the fully white kids average IQ 111.5 and the half-black kids averaged 105.4, a difference of 6.1 points (see chart above).
This difference may sound small, but keep in mind that we are not comparing full-blooded blacks to full-blooded whites, we are comparing half-African Americans to full-blooded whites. Also keep in mind that because everyone is being raised in the same social class, and social class independently explains such a large percent of the IQ variance at age seven, the entire IQ scale becomes compressed, so instead of the white standard deviation being about 14.5 (U.S. norms), it is only 11.3 in these adopted white kids. Thus a 6.1 point gap should be thought of as a 0.54 SD gap since 6.1/11.3 = 0.54.
So if kids with one black parent score 0.54 SD below white kids when both are raised in upper class homes and both have white prenatal environments, that 0.54 SD gap is arguably 100% genetic. And if having one black parent causes a 0.54 SD genetic drop in IQ, then having two black parents should cause a 1.08 SD genetic drop in IQ (note that the national black-white IQ gap in adults has been about 1 SD since WWI).
Failure to replicate
Now before HBDers get too excited, one should remember that the Minnesota transracial adoption study has never been replicated and that three other similar studies failed to find much of any black < white IQ gap, with some even showing the opposite pattern.
Tizard (1974) compared black, white and mixed-race kids raised in English residential nurseries and found that the only significant IQ difference favored the non-white kids. A problem with this study is that the children were extremely young (below age 5) and racial differences in maturation rates favor black kids. A bigger problem with this study is that the parents of the black kids appeared to be immigrants (African or West Indian) and immigrants are often hyper-selected for IQ (see Indian Americans).
A second study by Eyferth (1961) found that the biological illegitimate children of white German women had a mean IQ of 97.2 if the biological father was a white soldier and 96.5 if the biological father was a black soldier (a trivial difference). Both the white and mixed kids were raised by their biological white mothers. One problem with this study is that the biological fathers of both races would have been screened to have similar IQs because at the time, only the highest scoring 97% of whites and highest scoring 70% of blacks passed the Army General Classification Test and were allowed to be U.S. soldiers. In addition, 20% to 25% of the “black fathers” were not African-American or even black Africans, but rather French North Africans (dark caucasoids as we define them here).
A third study by Moore (1986) included a section where he looked at sub-samples of children adopted by white parents. He found that nine adopted kids with two black biological parents averaged 2 IQ points higher than 14 adopted kids with only one biological black parent. A 2 point IQ gap sounds small, but as I mentioned above, the IQ scale is compressed in kids when everyone is raised in the same social class (which might have been the case in this study), so a 2 point gap becomes 0.18 of the compressed white SD.
The results of this study suggest that half-white kids are 0.18 SD genetically duller than black kids, which predicts that fully white kids are 0.36 SD genetically duller than black kids. One problem with this study is that the black kids would have had black prenatal environments while many, or all, of the half-white kids would have had white prenatal environments, but given the low birth weight of black babies, if anything this suggests the genetic IQ gap favoring blacks is even larger than 0.36 SD!
Conclusion
We have two quality studies: The Minnesota Transracial adoption study (when black kids are excluded because of confounds) and Moore (1986). The first study implies U.S. black genes reduce IQ by 1.04 SD in kids (-1.04 SD), while the second implies U.S. black genes increase IQ by 0.36 SD in kids (+0.36 SD). But the first analysis was based on comparing 55 mixed kids to 16 white kids (total n = 71), while the second analysis was based on comparing nine black kids with 14 mixed kids (total n = 23). The total n of both studies combined is 94, so the first study provided 76% of the total sample while the second study provided 24%, thus the best I can do is just weigh these two conflicting results by sample size:
Effect of black genes on childhood IQ = 0.76(-1.04 SD) + 0.24(+0.36 SD)
Effect of black genes on childhood IQ = -0.79 SD + 0.09
Effect of black genes on childhood IQ = -0.7 SD
What this suggests is that on a scale where the white genetic IQ is set at 100 with an SD of 15, the U.S. black genetic IQ is 90, at least in childhood (in adulthood it may be around 85 since some IQ genes might not exert influence until post-puberty). This is consistent with the fact that despite half a century of affirmative action, the average black IQ (when expressed with reference to white norms) remains below 90 in both children and adults (see charts below).
On the other hand, my estimate is based on only two studies with a combined sample of only 71 adopted kids and we can only assume (based on education when known) that the IQs of their biological parents are roughly racially representative. And although the black-white IQ gap in adults has apparently changed not at all since WWI, the environmental gap might not have changed that much either. Despite decades of affirmative action, the median wealth for white families in 2013 was around $141,900, compared to Hispanics at about $13,700 and blacks at about $11,000 so even in the age of a black President, environmental factors can’t be ruled out.
Appendix
Black white IQ gap in the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children in the nationally representative samples used to norm each edition:
white iq (u.s. norms) | black iq (u.s. norms) | white iq (white norms) | black iq (white norms) | black-white iq gap (u.s. norms) | black-white iq gap (white norms) | |
wisc-r (1972) | 102.3 (sd = 14.08) | 86.4 (sd = 12.63) | 100 (sd = 15) | 83 (sd = 13.46) | 15.9 | 17 |
wisc-iii (1989) | 103.5 (sd = 13.86) | 88.6 (sd = 12.83) | 100 (sd = 15) | 84 (sd = 13.89) | 14.9 | 16 |
wisc-iv (2002) | 103.2 (sd = 14.52) | 91.7 (sd = 15.73) | 100 (sd = 15) | 88 (sd = 16.25) | 11.5 | 12 |
wisc-v (2013) | 103.5 (sd = 14.6) | 91.9 (sd = 13.3) | 100 (sd = 15) | 88 (sd = 13.66) | 11.6 | 12 |
Black white IQ gap in the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale in the nationally representative samples used to norm each edition:
white iq (u.s. norms) | black iq (u.s. norms) | white iq (white norms) | black iq (white norms) | black-white iq gap (u.s. norms) | black-white iqgap (white norms) | |
wais-r (1978) | 101.4 (sd = 14.65) | 86.8 (sd = 13.14) | 100 (sd = 15) | 85 (sd = 13.45) | 14.6 | 15 |
wais-iii (1995) | 102.6 (sd = 14.81) | 89.1 (sd = 13.31) | 100 (sd = 15) | 86 (sd = 13.48) | 13.5 | 14 |
wais-iv (2006) | 103.4 (sd = 14) | 87.7 (sd = 14.4) | 100 (sd = 15) | 83 (sd = 15.43) | 15.7 | 17 |
Sources for charts:
WISC-R, WISC-III, and WISC-IV U.S. norms, from pg 27 (Table A1) of Black Americans Reduce the Racial IQ Gap: Evidence from Standardization Samples by William T. Dickens & James R. Flynn
WAIS-IV U.S. norms from pg 190 of WAIS-IV, WMS-IV, and ACS: Advanced Clinical Interpretation edited by James A. Holdnack, Lisa Drozdick, Lawrence G. Weiss, Grant L. Iverson
WISC-V U.S. norms from page 157, table 5.3 of WISC-V Assessment and Interpretation: Scientist-Practitioner Perspectives By Lawrence G. Weiss, Donald H. Saklofske, James A. Holdnack, Aurelio Prifitera
chocolate babies? said:
again the philosturbator is half right.
aesthetics don’t lie.
that is, people who are intellectually attractive tend to be physically attractive…but it’s only a tendency…
people tend to be matched for:
1. social class and class background
2. intelligence level
3. physical attractiveness
the old rich man marrying the young beautiful woman does happen…and it’s publicized so it appears common…but it’s not…it’s the exception that proves the rule…and usually the young woman isn’t that pretty…and she’s in it for the money…not because she loves him.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
”people who are intellectually attractive tend to be physically attractive”
My guess is that intellectually-leaning men tend to be more attractive than intellectually-leaning women because highest levels of abstractions, namely verbal ones, tend to mean tendency to sexual inversions degree. So intellectually-leaning man, a academic philosopher, a poet, a high-culture artist, etc seems, tend to have relative mixed-gender phenotype both in physiological and psychological traits. Intellectually-leaning women on other hand will have more testosterone, if the most of behavioral extremes tend to be ”masculine”.
Don’t expect their gigantic icelandic men will be intellectually-leaning, 😉
Of course, there are Langan exceptions… what i said, exceptions.
or not.
Deal with it! said:
Actually, I just checked. I’m 112 lbs. Philosturbator thinks that’s fat.
chocolate babies? said:
Deal with it! said:
I was a fat kid. Then I lost a lot of weight in grade 7 and been skinny ever since.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
chocolate babies? said:
yes the young alain delon’s attractiveness is probably more for gay men than women, but not in the above case.
his looks are interesting to me, because he’s both very ordinary looking and very good looking, or pretty, at the same time.
only two pop songs have been written about male sex symbols afaik. both were barbie men. dean and delon.
The Philosopher said:
Well, I’ve only now just read some of the comments above.
MYSTERIOUS MARSHA
Do I think Marsha has a 170 odd IQ and used that to work as a proz? Contrary to the blue pilled among us, it’s conceivable – if she is a high end proz for guys on the Street. Many Hollywood actresses function in a more socially acceptable manner like this in fact. Very conceivable in fact, because most finance wives are de facto prozzies in a sense too. But she mentioned she’s been with Magic Negro clients…so unless they’re big ticket athletes,embassy officials or rappers it may be unlikely she’s a so called ‘high end call girl’….or perhaps that may have been an earlier part of her illustrious (or now rapidly age related depreciating career).
DON CUCKOLD
Don Cuckold can’t categorise, doesn’t know about regressions, thinks rac-ism is an automatic intellectual disqualifier, and thinks Deal With It has an IQ score of 140+ in relation to his comparisons of her to Robert, when she obviously lied about her LSAT. He’s an annoying sexually deprived white knight that’s out of his depth.
ROBERT. T. MUGAMMA
Now Robert is interesting and he can follow what I’m saying and offers good derivations and corollaries here and then. Yes psych, anthro, philosophy are sabotaged to make them safe for the kiddies. Do I know a technique for when to follow gut calls….YES! Good Question. I hadn’t thought of that! Answer to come someday. But he falls down on his chronometric IQ in the sense his SAT and actuary background/training is almost impossible to be a bad hand to play with in life barring even worse schiz than mine. He also can’t distinguish between a personality disorder and full on psychosis, denies IQ/Genetic links based on a lack of an IQ weighing scales invention and has low social intelligence in relation to women’s desires. But I believe, while some find his commentary wild and lush, he’s one of the most truthful/less emotionally driven in his opinions, as he sees it.
AFROSEMANTICS
I’ve come to a conclusion on Afro. He is dull. Gypsy is a classic modern philosophy undergrad. And Afro is a classic legal studies undergrad. It shows. He hides behind his doggy training but there’s no shine. He’s a pretty dull guy not in the intellectual sense, but in a more a general sense. AA hire all the way.
The Philosopher said:
Moderate this comment Pumpkin. As in delete it please. You and I will share this secret. Hahaha.
This mud slinging is tawdry and bringing people’s worst characteristics to the fore.
Afrosapiens said:
“AA hire all the way.”
Lol, my country doesn’t even have affirmative action.
and for your information, I graduated from HEC Paris.
The Philosopher said:
……So you don’t think a rich white french couple adopting a magic negro from Haiti isn’t affirmative action?
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Afrosapiens said:
Lol right back. No, affirmative action or class privilege is if I didn’t deserve what I have achieved, if I hadn’t been able to build on the advantages life incidentally brought to me. And my sisters are doing just as fine as me.
Don Ciccio said:
try again autistic fucktard.
If Afrosapiens succeeded in life financially, and say, can support his parents in later years, their investment paid off very well (which is one of the motivations to having children).
It was more logical of a decision than adopting trailer trash from USA.
In what way was his adoption a “failure” to them?
It achieved all the desired results.
The Philosopher said:
No Afro.
Your parents didn’t adopt a South Asian child. They didn’t adopt a Central American child. They didn’t adopt a white French orphan.
They adopted a magic negro from Haiti, because it is the will of Zion.
I mean no disrespect, but you have been an affirmative action specimen, almost from birth. There is nothing you would have achieved were it not for being a black. And this is the case for a great number of blacks in the various professional and academic environments I’ve seen.
Including your current position.
Including your college admission.
You have been granted access to these institutions mainly for administrators and bureaucrats to prove they are not ‘rac-ist’, and so you go straight into their marketing brochures.
But so long as ‘rac-ism’ maintains its pavlovian tremor on their weak low testosterone minds, your magical powers will decline.
If Obama was white and had the same CV and background, he would not even have been elected a Senator.
Zion’s Illusion is fading.https://adoption.com/why-the-decline-in-international-adoptions
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Afrosapiens said:
Your parents didn’t adopt a South Asian child. They didn’t adopt a “Central American child. They didn’t adopt a white French orphan.
They adopted a magic negro from Haiti, because it is the will of Zion.”
Pure nonsense, my parents adopted Haïtian children because they had volunteered in Haïti so they had a special link with the country. But it could have been otherwise. See, for your information, one minister of our current government (Jean-Vincent Placé) was adopted from Korea.
“Including your college admission.”
I never had to specify my race to get admitted, except in the final interview. Once admitted, I’ve always been above average. So fuck you, just fuck you and do just as well as me.
Don Ciccio said:
Achieving something due to affirmative action is better than achieving nothing at all….Like you…
As you have, and would have, with or without affirmative action.
The Philosopher said:
Your race was the determinant factor in the final round for college.
For every magic negro affirmed in vaudevillian virtue, a poor white/asian suffers for the rest of his/her life.
Further, there are over 20-30 similarly impoverished non black countries your parents could have volunteered in.
But the Blank Slate maintains that blacks are the most magical of all minority Pokemon because they are the most extreme variety of human experience in terms of social acceptability.
Zion promotes Magic Negro the most, because the withering truth is that asians, south asians and latinos are generally more accepted by all races.
Ergo, we can infer your parents were particularly nice people.
Which is an attribute closely linked to gullibility.
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Don Ciccio said:
I get it.
Philosobator fancies himself “one of the White/Asians living in misery the rest of their lives”
Afrosapiens said:
First of all, my parents, as French speakers went to a French speaking country. Are they equally poor non-black French speaking countries that are as poor as Haïti ?
“Your race was the determinant factor in the final round for college.”
Oh, if something could have favored me I rather think it’s my surname.
chocolate babies? said:
Among the 9,500 students sitting the concours after 2 years of preparatory classes, HEC has an admission rate of 4% and a yield of 99.7%.
afro must’ve gone for graduate school as HEC has no law school or legal studies, so he may never have passed the concours.
Afrosapiens said:
http://www.hec.fr/Grande-Ecole-MS-MSc/Programmes-diplomants/Doubles-diplomes-en-admission-directe/Master-in-Management-Business-Law-Double-diplome-avec-Paris-1/Le-programme/(from)/eng-GB
Afrosapiens said:
HEC has law programs, no law school, it’s not a US college.
chocolate babies? said:
have you done the CAPA?
Afrosapiens said:
Thought you were talking about the study aboard program, you call CAPA what I call EDA (Ecole des Avocats). Yes, I passed the CAPA.
chocolate babies? said:
did you attend a grande ecole for undergrad?
Afrosapiens said:
No, HEC Paris only offers Master’s degree programs, I went to a preparatory class before, that equals an undergrad level but gives no qualification, it’s just to get ready for the Grandes Ecoles concours. And I haven’t done the CAPA either.
chocolate babies? said:
interesting.
i thought the website said you needed an ug degree in legal studies and needed to pass four oral exams to get into the hec masters.
are you saying you got in just with the concours? no ug degree? is that the norm?
if you passed the concours, that means you do have a very high IQ.
wikipedia says:
To become a French lawyer, an “avocat” (male) or “avocate” (female), one must:
obtain an undergraduate degree (three years for a “licence”) and complete a first year of Masters of Laws (diplôme de maîtrise en droit), so a total of 4 years of study at university
take the exam to enter one of the CRFPA (Centres Régional de Formation à la Profession d’Avocat) where one completes an eighteen-month course and obtains an award of the requisite Certificat d’aptitude à la profession d’avocat (CAPA).
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French “juristes” (in-house counsels) do not need to hold the Certificat d’aptitude à la profession d’avocat (CAPA).
Afrosapiens said:
No, the HEC master makes the undergraduate degree unnecessary because the program is extremely complete and complex and the preparatory classes are at an olympian level intellectually speaking, it’s two years of basically studying from sun up to sun down. The people who go through Prepa HEC without passing the concours are often able to skip two years of undergrad college courses. After I got my Master’s degree at HEC in association with Paris 1 – Sorbonne, I went to EDA (Ecole d’Avocats), the new name for CRFPA for two years while doing an internship in a law firm to get the CAPA.
chocolate babies? said:
btw, that nigerian fund…is it available on an exchange?
Afrosapiens said:
No, it’s over the counter investment. There is not yet an African NASDAQ lol.
chocolate babies? said:
but there are africa funds available on american and european exchanges.
at least one focuses on nigeria exclusively, NGE.
Afrosapiens said:
This one funds well established businesses, the one I invested in (LeadPath Nigeria) provides seed capital to tech startups, it’s too risky to be traded on an exchange. I don’t mind the risk, I decided to do it as an alternative to donations.
Don Ciccio said:
Link to where I said “racism was an intellectual disqualifier”.
I’m not wrong on regressions, I’ve proven it.
You’re just showing your low IQ per the usual.
Don Ciccio said:
I should not have used the term “regression” because it’s working in the opposite direction.
The numbers were correct but may have been wrongly applied. I guess I’m autistic.
Don Ciccio said:
Other than the two characterizations I just rebutted above, you might be on to something.
I do have “Sexual frustrations”.
Feminism- whatever. I’m not “cucked” with regards to that.
Race- Yes I’m pretty cucked. You got me.
Well done.
Don Ciccio said:
“out of depth”….partially correct.
I learned statistics from this blog.
I don’t read philosophy.
Was bad at biology in school.
I come mainly to troll.
Don Ciccio said:
You’re a tool, yet you think you can not be a tool be by being “edgy”.
Welcome to the aut-Right.
RaceRealist said:
“aut-right”
I’ve used this term as well. Hilarious.
chocolate babies? said:
He also can’t distinguish between a personality disorder and full on psychosis, denies IQ/Genetic links based on a lack of an IQ weighing scales invention and has low social intelligence in relation to women’s desires.
you also can’t read apparently.
i do NOT and never have denied them. nor do i deny that when money’s on the line i would lean HBD. what i’ve denied is that the so called evidence is dispositive. it’s NOT.
women’s desires? jesus christ!…women aren’t one thing…neither are men. i speak only from experience not theory. unlike you. but in general men and women want women and men who aren’t too far from the norm…except in the case of IQ i guess. women prefer tall men, but not giants. men prefer women with boobs, but not dolly parton. women prefer men who don’t act like women…
but according to guys like you what every woman wants is a 7′ tall lantern jawed ripped hitman.
obviously zuckerburg is un-attractive…despite his wealth…and, obviously, one of the reasons why women are attracted to rich men is because rich men tend to have other qualities. for more see Dr Zhivago.
chocolate babies? said:
Do I know a technique for when to follow gut calls….YES! Good Question. I hadn’t thought of that!
it’s more than that. one’s confidence level must be quantified. efficient diversification is impossible to do with your gut.
the idea is you’d have confidence in many things, some more than others and combine them efficiently.
no matter how confident one is betting the farm is foolish. eventually you’ll be wrong and ruined.
The way to build superior long-term returns is through preservation of capital and home runs…When you have tremendous conviction on a trade, you have to go for the jugular. It takes courage to be a pig.
Gypsyman said:
“Gypsy is a classic modern philosophy undergrad.”
Oh come on baby, don’t be like that. I know I smacked you around once but I can change!
Stella! STELLA!!! STE-LUH!!!!!!
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
People here never created a creativity ranking, or any other… it’s just IQ and co.
Deal with it! said:
Peepee do a post on PISA results. Canadians scored very high!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/canada-s-15-year-old-students-among-best-global-performers-in-science-math-1.3883341
The Philosopher said:
In general though, the quality of debate has increased from previous threads. Bizarrely whilst also devolving/evolving into an ad hominem contest.
As I said on the last thread, ad hominem is a viable truth finding technique – in general***- . Gypsy doesn’t like it when I don’t use hedgy language asterisks on my ‘heuristics’.
But….
There’s no cvs, no test scores, no pictures, no references, no published work and no money on the line. So there’s a very strong chance many people here are lying about one thing or another.
Gypsyman said:
>Gypsy doesn’t like it when I don’t use hedgy language asterisks
C’mon, in general is enough of a qualification.
In fact I don’t even need any qualification, I gather that it’s not the same in every case and we happen to agree that ad hominem is a pretty good heuristic for truth.
And there’s nothing wrong with heuristics as part of a mixed strategy.
Don’t be a little bitch now.
RaceRealist said:
“we happen to agree that ad hominem is a pretty good heuristic for truth.”
Disagree. The content matters more.
Gypsyman said:
If I insult you and you react a certain way I can ascertain your motives, reliability, and willingness to provide accurate unbiased information.
if you insult me, I can potentially ascertain your motives, reliability, and willingness to provide accurate unbiased information.
It’s a strong heuristic excepting the cases where your biases and reality just so happen to line up, which is why a mixed method is appropriate. A broken clock is right twice a day.
RaceRealist said:
But stupid insults have nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Motives font matter. The data matters. The content matters. The truth matters. Yelling ad hominem doesn’t change the fact that things need to be rebutted.
Gypsyman said:
>But stupid insults have nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Motives font matter. The data matters.
Your liability to present accurate data depends on your ability to recognize it, which requires knowledge and intellect, which can be exposed to a certain extent by probing with insults, and your particular set of confirmation biases which can also be exposed in the same way.
If I find out about your particular biases and they run against the best heuristics I have for truth, I can almost guarantee that you’re presenting shit data in the first place and I can predict that you will most likely present shit data in the future.
RaceRealist said:
“If I find out about your particular biases and they run against the best heuristics I have for truth”
Is this not subjective?
Just because one presents shit data one time doesn’t mean they’ll present shit data a second time. Each argument should be deconstructed, not shouting ad hominem. That’s my opinion though.
Gypsyman said:
>Just because one presents shit data one time doesn’t mean they’ll present shit data a second time.
If their motivations for posting the data remain the same, they’ll present data in line with their biases. Whether or not this data is accurate is depedent on whether reality lines up with their biases. Generally speaking biases are based on certain emotive reasons and are not justified by reality.
>Each argument should be deconstructed
I hate to tell you this, but you’re on a blog talking to a stranger on the internet under no obligation to show you what they can already predict with 90%+ confidence.
RaceRealist said:
“If their motivations for posting the data remain the same, they’ll present data in line with their biases. Whether or not this data is accurate is depedent on whether reality lines up with their biases. Generally speaking biases are based on certain emotive reasons and are not justified by reality.”
Everyone is biased. Everyone has biases. Of course biases are based on emotion, but they may also be based on factual data.
“I hate to tell you this, but you’re on a blog talking to a stranger on the internet under no obligation to show you what they can already predict with 90%+ confidence.”
I know. When I say argument, I mean in a simple format with the premises and the conclusion. That’s the simplest way to deconstruct an argument. Take what someone writes, put it into the format and either show if the conclusion or premises are false.
The Philosopher said:
Gypsy is correct for the reasons above, with the sole caveat that you can only do ad hominem if you in fact have information about your opponent that is pertinent and true.
A number of commenters are passing judgements and diatribes based on no information or simply have nowhere near the level of deductive logic to parse an accurate appraisal of the person behind the screen.
Deal with it! said:
PISA Canada results by province
JS said:
Is it a surprise to you that French Canada is more visual pleasing than a place like Toronto? Maybe mathematical ability has something do to with.
But then British Columbia is populated with many East Asians, and the skyline of Vancouver looks very boring, maybe even cold in an aesthetic sense.
JS said:
And given the fact that the French Speaking province scored above the Canadian mean in every category has a lot to show forth, when you add other measures like lower gini coefficient and less hours worked.
The Anglo Prole Sphere is a disgrace and its mode of existence is outdated in the 21st century. America takes the cake as being the most outdated of western nations in every human endeavor.
RaceRealist said:
Afrosapiens you may enjoy this.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25516026
Afrosapiens said:
Indeed, that’s interesting. It shows that gene expression, population genetics and environmental factors form an even more complex network of associations and causalities than what we can all expect. To be honest I can’t make an opinion on whatever from the link you posted, I just think it’s a manifestation of how complex the whole thing is.
Don Ciccio said:
HBDers don’t get Trump
they don’t get Brexit
They don’t get Marine Le Pen.
HBDers think it is a “vindication” of their worldview.
Maybe purely in regards to race it is.
But in terms of the REAL/original purposes of HBD (social Darwinism for the working class as a whole around the turn of the century)- it’s a joke. NAMs weren’t relevant around the turn of the century. It wasn’t about race. It was about “if you’re poor, you’re stupid”.
Yet Trump is intervening in the free market (oh noes, he must be hurting all the smart people!)
Brexit was the same, Marine Le Pen is the same.
RaceRealist said:
“HBDers don’t get Trump”
I do.
“they don’t get Brexit”
What’s to get? I don’t even think it’ll occur anyway. Something will come up to prevent it.
“They don’t get Marine Le Pen.”
>women
>leaders
Trump didn’t intervene anywhere yet. And what do you know, he’s reneging on everything that got him elected. Hmmm.
I don’t care about France or the UK. I care about America.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
“HBDers don’t get Trump”
hem**
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
”It wasn’t about race. It was about “if you’re poor, you’re stupid”.”
Seems, reasonably right.
Back to the victorian social model, cosi cosi.
So many hbd researchers, bloggers et all are not white, or
– they are marriage with ”non-whites”,
– they are jewish (well…),
– they are creepto-jews (well…),
– they are fairly ”progressive” IN WRONG WAY (for example, criticize ”anti-semitism” and not to be too much concerned about environmental issues).
Don Ciccio said:
In the world of philo…..
‘Edginess’= Intelligence…..
I would assume he frequented 4chan in his teenage years.
Don Ciccio said:
PHILOSOPHER
simply put…was a high IQ nerdy kid who failed to live up to expectations; he was beat out the magic negroes.
He has managed to learn some game with women and now thinks he’s hot shit criticizing “autists”….
but that was just a phase (see how he’s stopped taking about it).
Deal with it! said:
I bet his “game” only works on low IQ women with loose morals.
I wouldn’t touch that with a 10 foot pole.
The Philosopher said:
For a ‘man’ that openly admits to being a race cuck and openly admits to being ‘partially’ out of his depth, the concreteness of your judgements about me are remarkable.
Afros parents didn’t adopt him to make money you fucking idiot. Hahaha.
Don Ciccio said:
Yet you still take my remarks seriously; are you nervous about them?
Why do people adopt children?
Explain….
Don Ciccio said:
Philosopher thinks tribalism is a normative human behavior at all levels, all the time.
Although tribalism can be a general guiding force, his rigid views on the subject betrays his underlying autism.
On the plantations in the South, slave masters banged female Black slaves, in lieu of their White wives.
The plantation owner women developed “maternal” relations with young slave children.
http://docsouth.unc.edu/neh/douglass/douglass.html
I suppose Douglass was Zion controlled Magic Negro…
this sort of thing went on from 1850s- onward, you know.
The Philosopher said:
Actually autism is linked to less amygdala activation and propensity to violence to those of out groups.
In fact autism means less aggression, social awareness and violence full stop.
Impregnating and having sexual relations with those of other races can be a domination and tribally aggressive act. Particularly in your mooted instance. It is the female with bastard child whose family and tribe must then raise the genetic specimen of another tribe that is the ultimate form of humiliation.
Often invaders, marauders and barbarians would make sure to rape the women of the conquered tribe throughout history.
That is why Zion is so eager to promote Magic Negro most of all to white women.
Afro’s parents can tell you more about cuckoldry if you want more detail.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
”propensity to violence to those of out groups”
heem*
Don Ciccio said:
Is that the root of your contempt for autists?
anyhow you’re getting caught up in semantics and missing the point.
Don Ciccio said:
Duh……
how do you think the modern day “Latrino” came to be 😉
chocolate babies? said:
game can’t be faked.
it’s the killer instinct.
you have it or you don’t.
Don Ciccio said:
Affirmative action may be bad if dumb Asians/Whites like philosopher can get to (plausibly) bitch and moan about how their failures are because of Blacks.
chocolate babies? said:
what are failures?
RaceRealist said:
PP what do you think of this article.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-brain-size-doesnt-correlate-with-intelligence-180947627/
pumpkinperson said:
PP what do you think of this article.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-brain-size-doesnt-correlate-with-intelligence-180947627/
It’s garbage, like most of the stuff you read. She just cherry picks a few anecdotes here and there to make random points but has no coherent thesis. What do you expect from a woman who studies dogs for a living?
RaceRealist said:
I never said I agreed with it. I was just asking what you thought about it. I don’t know about you, but I read things I don’t agree with all the time.
Afrosapiens said:
PP can’t read anything that’s not from a Pioneer Fund approved author. That would be heresy.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
”What do you expect from a woman who studies dogs for a living?”
One thing necessarily don’t implies in other thing.
Yes, i agree about most part of your comment, less this gratuitous prejudice.
Tenn said:
You will find this fascinating. https://my.vanderbilt.edu/smpy/files/2013/02/DoingPsychScience2006.pdf
pumpkinperson said:
You will find this fascinating. https://my.vanderbilt.edu/smpy/files/2013/02/DoingPsychScience2006.pdf
Yes, looks like it has a lot of great data. Thanks for the link Tenn!
Gypsyman said:
While we’re throwing around studies, here’s a study about academic performance in the UK and intelligence tests.
http://www.bmj.com/content/327/7407/139
Look around this thing and see if you can spot an IQ-A-level result correlation.
Afrosapiens said:
Just from wikipedia:
“In the course of evolution of the Homininae, the human brain has grown in volume from about 600 cm3 in Homo habilis to about 1500 cm3 in Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. Subsequently, there has been a shrinking over the past 28,000 years. The male brain has decreased from 1,500 cm3 to 1,350 cm3 while the female brain has shrunk by the same relative proportion.[47] For comparison, Homo erectus, a relative of humans, had a brain size of 1,100 cm3. However, the little Homo floresiensis, with a brain size of 380 cm3, a third of that of their proposed ancestor H. erectus, used fire, hunted, and made stone tools at least as sophisticated as those of H. erectus.[48] In spite of significant changes in social capacity, there has been very little change in brain size from Neanderthals to the present day.[49] The notion “As large as you need and as small as you can” has been used to summarize the opposite evolutionary constraints on human brain size.[50][51] Changes in the size of the human brain during evolution have been reflected in changes in the ASPM and microcephalin genes.[52]”
pumpkinperson said:
“In the course of evolution of the Homininae, the human brain has grown in volume from about 600 cm3 in Homo habilis to about 1500 cm3 in Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. Subsequently, there has been a shrinking over the past 28,000 years. The male brain has decreased from 1,500 cm3 to 1,350 cm3 while the female brain has shrunk by the same relative proportion
This is nonsense. The brain shrinking started only about 10,000 years ago, not 28,000 years ago, in those areas where we don’t have huge gaps in the fossil record. It was likely caused by the environmental insults of agriculture (malnutrition, disease), not evolution.
Second, much, if not all the brain size lost from malnutrition/disease was recovered as living standards in the 20th century improved.
Afrosapiens said:
If there is something good about wikipedia, it is that they bother to share their sources, in this case:
http://discovermagazine.com/2010/sep/25-modern-humans-smart-why-brain-shrinking
pumpkinperson said:
The source is a pop-science article not a peer reviewed journal. I already cited video of the actual professor Discovery interviewed for their article, and his data shows brain size shrinking from 10,000 years ago in his the most complete data set.
RaceRealist said:
From John Hawks:
The available skeletal samples show a reduction in endocranial volume or vault dimensions in Europe, southern Africa, China, and Australia during the Holocene. This reduction cannot be explained as an allometric consequence of reductions of body mass or stature in these populations. The large population numbers in these Holocene populations, particularly in post-agricultural Europe and China, rule out genetic drift as an explanation for smaller endocranial volume. This is likely to be true of African and Australian populations also, although the demographic information is less secure. Therefore, smaller endocranial volume was correlated with higher fitness during the recent evolution of these populations. Several hypotheses may explain the reduction of brain size in Holocene populations, and further work will be necessary to uncover the developmental and functional consequences of smaller brains.
http://johnhawks.net/research/hawks-2011-brain-size-selection-holocene/
He even specifically says “What about the brain reduction during the last 10,000 years?
pumpkinperson said:
He even specifically says “What about the brain reduction during the last 10,000 years?
OMG you can’t even read. He’s comparing the brain size INCREASE over 4 million years to the recent decrease starting 10,000 years ago. He’s saying the former can’t be explained by body size; what about the latter?
What the fuck is wrong with you Race Realist?
Seriously, stop reading and hit the gym. You’ll get way more bang for your buck.
Afrosapiens said:
Ask a biologist PP:
http://www.askabiologist.org.uk/answers/viewtopic.php?id=13857
pumpkinperson said:
Ask a biologist PP:
I don’t have to ask anyone, I looked at the actual data.
Gypsyman said:
Pumpy, Pumplestiltskin, Steak Pump, Tire Pump, Pumpalumba, it’d be cool if you looked into the study I showed you rather than retreading on brainsize.
Obviously if a brain is more complex whilst also being smaller, it’s going to be more computationally powerful than a less complex larger brain, but if that brain is larger and more complex it’s going to be more computationally powerful unless the size of said brain somehow inhibits the speed of the development of connections from one part to the other.
Why waste time clarifying that when we can get into the new and exciting work of sorting out the relationship between UK academic performance and IQ, as Afro has pointed out it’s unusual. Maybe we should analyse it in order to explain the unusual counter-intuitve results.
pumpkinperson said:
Pumpy, Pumplestiltskin, Steak Pump, Tire Pump, Pumpalumba, it’d be cool if you looked into the study I showed you rather than retreading on brainsize.
I’ll look into it
RaceRealist said:
“OMG you can’t even read. He’s comparing the brain size INCREASE over 4 million years to the recent decrease starting 10,000 years ago. He’s saying the former can’t be explained by body size; what about the latter?”
Sure about that? Care to point it out to me? I just read it three times.
“What the fuck is wrong with you Race Realist?”
Tired. Working late. Maybe I missed that.
“Seriously, stop reading and hit the gym. You’ll get way more bang for your buck.”
I’ll continue reading. Do you go to the gym?
chocolate babies? said:
yet another example of how very very different cultures can be…even cultures from propinquitous places.
and an example of how i would react when marsha took her panties off.
this is NOT fake, and the foodstuff concerned has not gone “off”.
chocolate babies? said:
Surströmming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming#German_eviction
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
If i will talk face to face with this guy don’t forget your umbrella, to the well being of your eyes, 😉
amen!!
chocolate babies? said:
and regarding dick size and why this is something the white HBDers resist…
they’re afraid.
they’re afraid that women want blackzilla.
they don’t…some of them do…but they’re a small/tiny minority.
not anymore than they want shaq fucktards.
not what women want:
there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.
when it comes to penis length…
more than 7″ simply doesn’t fit. girth matters.
watch more porn!
it’s better to be looked over than overlooked.
too much of a good thing can be wonderful.
Deal with it! said:
True but some guys like philosturbator are too small. That’s definitely unattractive!
The Philosopher said:
ON THE PROPENSITY OF THE ‘GUT’
Perhaps we can think of the gut as a particular form of NARR function rather than COG usage.
For example, knowing nothing else one person may watch 100 football matches and another the same 100 matches, have the same methodological tools, statistics of the matches, understanding of teams/rules and so on but have different interpretations of what happened and why. In fact at similar IQ levels this is mostly the case. There is often more disagreement than agreement.
While you’ll notice more plausibility for a higher IQ person’s narration to a lower IQ person’s analysis….equally intelligent observers will often disagree.
This is narrative, not cognitive.
In this sense, using COG function risk management techniques by trying to ‘objectify’ the hunch might not work, because you’re essentially quantifying things that are even more hazy than what a statistician would be looking at. And building a math model of the phenomenon would relate to the phenomenon only. It would take a long while or in many cases be impractical to collect data on how much Emerson and Vieira stultify play and led to a lack of goals which were never scored.
The risk management technique for bad narration is something I read a while ago.
Essentially:
1. Get a diary and write down the gut call.
2. Write down your reasons for it
3. Come back later and circle those reasons that sound like cognitive biases (there’s plenty of lists out there) and reflect.
4. Act on the call (yes/no) + rationale considering those biases
5. Track the outcome in t+1
6 Track the outcome t+2
Rinse and repeat. Over time you’ll weed out the more errant biases or issues with your narration.
If you want to quantify it, one is essentially running the risk of becoming an ant crawler which defeats the point of having the advantage of gut calls in the first instance.
Which is the source of alpha outside of the Rentech type mass induction crawler techniques.
Its a complicated topic. I’m not sure if this response is of any use until I try it myself. But I’m told it helps manifold.
Deal with it! said:
Guys stop being losers and get off the couch. Go get laid, get a girlfriend, get a job, become an extrovert, maybe help the poor, etc. Change your perspective. You guys have low self esteem because you’re losers. Sorry.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
Deal,
you’re the least intelligent people here, sorry.
Maybe a minimal IQ required to go to the university.
Afrosapiens said:
“Maybe a minimal IQ required to go to the university.”
What you haven’t done yourself.
Santo, you know you are a waste of space and oxygen. You won’t find any social usefulness in this world, you’re a burden to your family, you won’t even be even to procreate (fortunately). So my question to you is quite simple: why don’t you just kill yourself ?
Deal with it! said:
Pumpkin Person is a parallel upside down universe where the dumb think themselves smart and their cognitive betters dumb.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
well, you are infecting a french retarded woman with your primitive semen. France is becoming more and more a NEGROID brazil.
Well,
so many geniuses are misunderstood as
burden to their family
don’t procreate
and many them kill themselves
all the time this APE is just shooting in your color-shit head.
When France become too dangerous BECAUSE APE’s and their REAL family we will see what the time this ”stability” will continue in the mediocre life of this APE-TRASH.
You deserve to be killed APE, hunt as a savage animal you are.
Now, It’s missing this MACACO name-called the Iluminatcat.
Let’s wait…
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
”Pumpkin Person is a parallel upside down universe where the dumb think themselves smart and their cognitive betters dumb.”
That’s why you’re here *
RaceRealist said:
Afrosapiens has made Santoculto blind with rage.
Afrosapiens said:
Yes, his mama must be wondering what’s causing such anger to her hopeless condom accident.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
The only one ”triumph” this verms have about me is my precious english…
some two cuck must be throw away in the trash this demoniacal APE.
i’m quasi-ideal son,
i’m so agreeable, conscious and ”good”, 😉
”Afrosapiens has made Santoculto blind with rage.”
and RR88 is absolutely HOPELESS, your brain is shockingly contradictory AND i catch a CUCK/coward VIBE from him here..
i imagine all this fake online friends (look absurd, but yesss) debating…
RR88 Lowering his head to his macaco-alpha,
everyone pretend to pay attention to the mainstreamed nonsense by Deal, and future problems between BUGabby and APE.
Just delicious to imagine this bizarre scene.
APE is forgeting ”he” was abandoned,
how defective must be their genes**
Parents who abandoned their kids tend to be
poorer
less educated
less intelligent
less conscious
more prone to commit crimes
well, all their monkey-pattern show how inferior and useless IT is.
subhumans…
completely hallucinating garbage…
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
blind**
hihihihihihihi
RR88 is ”cofee with milk”
Leave you posting what he want ok*
Supposedly i’m foaming with hate…
Afrosapiens said:
“i’m quasi-ideal son”
If you were my son, you’d be out of my house by now. I hate lazy asses.
RaceRealist said:
“RR88 is ”cofee with milk””
I drink black coffee.
Afrosapiens said:
“APE is forgeting ”he” was abandoned,
how defective must be their genes**
Parents who abandoned their kids tend to be
poorer
less educated
less intelligent
less conscious
more prone to commit crimes
well, all their monkey-pattern show how inferior and useless IT is.
subhumans…”
Yet I’m superior to you in everything human.
Don Ciccio said:
“Pumpkin Person is a parallel upside down universe where the dumb think themselves smart and their cognitive betters dumb.”
To paraphrase;
‘Social Darwinism is a good idea when social Darwinists are abused by their cognitive betters’ 🙂
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
I think a zumbi leftoid is a real loser as you seems to be.
watch what this two losers did**
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2304413/Teenager-astounds-scientists-building-DNA-testing-machine-bedroom–did-discover-brother-ginger.html
leftoids need a mental quarantine, i have a
extroverted
with job (Story teacher)
popular brother
and
surprise
he is one of the most dumbest person i already met.
every leftoid trash misinformation he is buying.
He repulsively stupid even their avg 115 IQ as SOME here.
Leftoids tend to have Ilogical and significatively contradictory thinking style, in other words, whatever the ”size” of their cognitive and psychological intelligence, their thinkings tend to born wrong and grow wrong.
no doubt leftoids tend to have some specific type of attention deficit and hyperactivity.
Extremely lazy to understand the world, it’s fatal to the survive.
we are living in the world where seems only there ON THE LEFT or ON THE RIGHT, but not, there are a entire spectrum, even within the extremes, there are a diversity.
Deal with it! said:
Your brother is a genius compared to you.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
RR 2.0,
huahuahuahuahuahuahuahuahua
I don’t know if you notice BUT i think you at least by now say nothing substantial here…
If PP blog is a farm of losers why you already is here
back to the hospice
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
I doubt your IQ is higher than 100
maybe the amerindian ancestry….
Afrosapiens said:
“he is one of the most dumbest person i already met.”
Lol.
Afrosapiens said:
That’s true, this place is for losers, I’m sick as hell right now and I’m having an allergic reaction to one drug I took, I’m in such bad shape that I wound up here. Plus I had to cancel a party in Tel Aviv that I’ve been longing for in weeks. I feel so santoculto.
Deal with it! said:
“I doubt your IQ is higher than 100
maybe the amerindian ancestry….”
says the Brazilian!
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
Ape,
avoid ortodox streets, they know you are not human at all, 😉
”That’s true, this place is for losers”
Iluminaticat is a loser too*
tell me what do you ”think” (lol) about him*
your ”wife” must be raped… hihihihi
cadela, =)
RaceRealist said:
“says the Brazilian!”
Lol
” your ”wife” must be raped… ”
That’s not cool man.
” hihihihi”
?????
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
”says the Brazilian!”
Says the ugly bitch who don’t understand the basic of applied statistics.
poverella!!
i have PITY of this minions here, they are so repulsive and so HOPELESS…
Deal with it! said:
Afrosapiens said:
Imbecile, I said I canceled. And this party is Tel Aviv not Jerusalem you poor moron.
Don’t worry for me, I’ve been to Israel many times and I never met morons of your type there.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
Afrosapiens said:
I haven’t had this kind of conversations since I was 12yo tbh.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
Deal = typical retarded ”sjw”
she born with mental injury, incapable to be factually correct or coerent, in any time,
tadinha
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
Since then your mental age don’t increased
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
So tel aviv is free of negros*
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
”Imbecile, I said I canceled”
APE
i don’t give a fuck
”your” parents adopted a snake.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
most leftoid mentally hopeless think they are the most emotionally mature ones on this planet and QUIÇÁ entire via lactea.
No doubt a true eugenics this type will be serenely discarded, they are hopeless, absolutely.
Deal with it! said:
You’re in a rage because your penis is too small
RaceRealist said:
Santoculto the outbursts you’ve been making over the past few days have been pretty entertaining.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
I’m wasting my precious time with three cockroaches…
No more,
good HEIL
oi*
no, no
GOOD
BYYYEEEE
Goodbye RR88
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
My penis is average and i’m expert to fuck very well in all angles
Your brain ”deal”,
like tha’
magical bean*
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
outburst*
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
I know amerindians and blacks tend to hate one each other, 😉
Afrosapiens said:
“I’m wasting my precious time with three cockroaches”
Ahah ! I understand, you must prepare yourself for a job interview. LOL.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
This APE have a ant ”mind”, if we really can call this negroid head as ”mind”.
it is a wrongled ”person”, extremely wrong in everything it think and most of their ”good actions” are artificial, to say at least.
APE HATE white people
IT believe white, namely white men are loser.
Look how ”he” talks about his white-trophy wife.
He is rubbing in the face of all whites here, who read this blog, that he has a white-trophy wife.
There are black men married to white women who are reasonable people, not this thing.
He has serious mental problems because he is worse than a schizophrenic who has or who develops consciousness about his condition. He has not the slightest idea, he is what we could say of
Pure psychotic
All pure stupid is like that,
They do not make the most abject idea about how foolish they are, and this is a sign of complete dominance of the psychotic state, one has no doubt as to their own stupidity.
Waiting for him to say that it is me who is like this …
Typical of these pseudo-smart pests.
If i’m a absolute unconscious about my own weaknesses i would not be frank about my own estimates of my cognitive intelligence.
to the good listener, half word is enough…
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
Bizarrely speaking this shit have a complete wrong map of reality,
we have a food chain is not**
so, this shit is the lowest of all,
yes RR88, you are partially right about the subjectiveness of evolution, 😉
ALL other species know their particular reality, this shit are only ones who don’t understand the basic of reality they are living.
nake-eye patterns, they are absolutely unable to catch it, the begining of the science is in the recognition of nake-eye patterns, firstly, to start to catch the ”microscopic” patterns.
the divorce from the natural knowledge, the wrong idea humans are all the same and divinely flexible, a complete psychosis.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
nake’d
ui
Afrosapiens said:
eh, your precious time was damn short… So, this interview, how are you feeling it ?
Afrosapiens said:
“Look how ”he” talks about his white-trophy wife.”
You’re jealous ? You wanna be my bitch ? Beware, I’m a huge dude, it may hurt. And you can’t escape once I’m on you. 90kg chocolate muscle here.
RaceRealist said:
What gym routine do you do Afrosapiens?
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
Bugabby must be disappointed with you…
fake friends, real diamonds#
Deal with it! said:
Mugabe is teh REAL DEAL even though I disagree with him on many things… Santo is just a put on – a fake smart person.
I respect Mugabe but not Santo.
Deal with it! said:
I’m in the library and one of my tabs is “small penis” and there are guys behind me. They probably think I want the D.
Afrosapiens said:
Those last months I’ve been more into cardio training than weightlifting per se. I’m not a bodybuilder, I just maintain and slightly embellish what I naturally have.
Deal with it! said:
By Santo’s dim lights, working out is unwise and for dumb people. The smart thing to do is to sit on your ass and eat cheetos. Is that right Santo? Don’t want to be uncharitable to your views.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
”Mugabe is teh REAL DEAL even though I disagree with him on many things… Santo is just a put on – a fake smart person.
I respect Mugabe but not Santo.”
At least i’m a fake smart,
while you’re a real stupid, 😉
BUGabby is the TYPICAL pseudo-intellectual
– no insights
– only philosophical or whatever-the-stuff truisms
– gigantic ego
– IQdiot
– contradictory
– buy many wrong ideas,
– and fan of Heidegger,
He believe he’s a philosopher,
trans-cognitive again
and i’m the only one here who really capture this subtle reality, ’cause i’m very subtle, and i’m showing this reality all the time here…
Half of Bugabby myth here is thanks to their effective self-propaganda.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
I’m a healthy and handsome man and not a bigfoot countryside cheap bitch road side as you, 😉
Afrosapiens said:
Do you guys sometimes imagine Santoculo talking just in front of you ? With all of his compulsive attitudes, miserable English. I’m pretty sure his eyes look frightening too.
Deal with it! said:
You need a human translator honey. Google Translator isn’t adequate.
“bigfoot countryside cheap bitch road side”
makes zero sense! Well I guess the “cheap bitch” part makes sense but the rest…
Afrosapiens said:
Santoculo, can I post some quotes of yours on tumblr ?
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
” the “cheap bitch” part makes sense but the rest…”
the part you identified yourself.
subhumans are extremely stubborn…
only killing them or Internating this populace forever in a hospice…
i choice both
”some” of them are so hopeless…
” tumblr”
Deal liked.
The ”debate” with
a negro ingrato, EVIL, extremely stupid and must deserve be shooted
and a cheap bitch with lower iq,
is
is
fruitfull
but
i have a beautiful and iluminatting life to live,
i will leave the monkey and the bitch debating one each other about who deserve more reparations
the hopeless apefreakans
or
the loser amerindians
Afrosapiens said:
Damn, this guy is 30yo… smh.
Deal with it! said:
You’re hilarious Santo. I’m just passing time. I have no animus against you. You take yourself way too seriously. If you had a “beautiful and iluminatting life”, you wouldn’t be in a rage. I still think it’s because of your small penis.
RaceRealist said:
“Guys stop being losers and get off the couch. Go get laid, get a girlfriend, get a job, become an extrovert, maybe help the poor, etc. Change your perspective. You guys have low self esteem because you’re losers. Sorry.”
^^^^
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
Deal look creep, is a typical boring un-thinker, she’s less smarter than a door, and exagerate in their make up too look WHITER. hihihihihi
”Lol.”
At the moment i start to read your garbage MONKEY, 😉
three hopeless mentally ill people, the most dangerous of all,
they don’t appear to have a defect(s) in their problematic brains
the mask of sanity.
histerical, morally hypocrite, megalomaniacal, borderline to the psychosis, if so many nuts leftoids are already psychotic.
Afrosapiens said:
Hey faggot, did you get your writing skills along with your degree in geography ?
Don Ciccio said:
there are a lot of sick fucks here, as with the vast majority of the HBD sphere, but I wouldn’t describe them as “losers”.
LOTJudah Sphere once said that “this was the most important blog in our modern world” because it discusses the goings-on of the world at level beyond which the mainstream acknowledges. Considering all that we have seen with Brexit, Trump, etc., he may be correct.
However, who drives and contributes that aspect of conservation?
Mainly just Mugabe and JS, not many others.
Philosopher tries but ends up devolving into incoherent rants about “Magic Negroes” and “Zion”……
for a better analogy, the U.S. electorate is the outside world; Mugabe is Bernie Sanders and Philo is Jill Stein’s afrocentrist running mate.
One is taken seriously and one is a joke just riding his coattails.
ruhkukah said:
This is a great blog with some crazy people, I agree.
The Philosopher said:
Tyler Cowen has a ‘think’ piece about why Dems need to move more neoliberal now that they’re smashed.
You people think I’m kidding when I say autists wear jumpers everywhere indoors.
Deal with it! said:
You’re ignoring the elephant in the room. Why is your penis so small?!
The Philosopher said:
I bet this man has never seen pure lust on a girl’s face. He looks a lot like my old Phd Engineering friend.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-16/trump-is-a-sign-that-racism-probably-is-getting-worse
Now, the acid test is how women react to Tyler.
As he’s brainwashed…women’s instinct can correctly diagnose he’s not viable.
Of course 95% of people don’t know he’s brainwashed.
The clue is how women react to him…even women of the same political persuasion. This is the magic of Darwin’s Sort in action. It can ‘smell’ an aberration without cognitive process. In fact, the heuristics for loserdom are so hardwired into women, they could completely agree with him, find him physically robust…and still think he was a loser.
Santo piece und loeb (((Santa Clausewitz))) said:
APES
Don Ciccio said:
Contrasting Mugabe versus the Philosopher:
Mugabe;
IQ-140
Race: South Asian
Sexuality: Bi curious
Age: 43
Mental Health: Stable, but he’s a cynic.
Philosopher:
IQ- 40
Race: Trans-White
Sexuality: Incel
Age: 4+3
Mental Health: Obsessive Compulsive disorder.
The Philosopher said:
The Philosopher said:
The War of the Last Alliance
The Last Alliance of Gentile Men was a great alliance formed in 3430 of the Second Age in response to the threat of conquest by the Dark Lord Zion.
The greatest and most decisive battle took place before Persia, on the plains of Babylon. It was here when the Last Alliance destroyed Zion’s main force of Negro Orcs, Corrupted Western Man, and Saud Haradrim. Although this was a victory, many were lost, including both kings of Germania and Gaul due to their annoyance at following the supreme command of America, the High King of the West, and thus charging prematurely at the enemy. Many Slavic whites were also killed alongside Germanics and Gauls, and so were many other whites, arabs and persians. Germanias army fell in the face of the Blank Slate but Gaul and his army were driven back all the way to the Dead Marshes of Multikulturism where they were slain bitterly under threat of saboteurs and spies. The bodies of these whites stayed preserved in these Marshes for all the ages of time.
After this battle, the Blank Slate was thrown down by the host of asians and whites who followed the free people’s of America and the Orient, and thus the Siege of Israel began, lasting seven years, during which Erdogan, son of Ottoman and lord of Asia Minor, was killed by a nuclear strike from Barad-dûr, the heart of Israel. It is said that the Sultan and his army had made it all the way to the gates of Barad-dûr without the help of the other armies but as soon as the Sultan fell, the army joined the main host and came to the command of the Americans.
The war ended when Zion himself came forth and fought the free people’s of the West in combat, who were then joined by Duke of Muscovy. Although they two both fell, they managed to defeat Zion and bring him down. The brave persians in the same hour, who had bore the brunt of Zion’s forces for untold duration then subsequently cut the One Ring from Zion’s hand, dispersing his evil spirit.
It should be noted that while it is called the Last Alliance of Gentile Men, Tolkien states that all races came to battle that day, even indians, and chinese, and that all were found on either side except for the Alt Right, who fought solely under the banner of the West against the forces of Zion’s necromancy and evil.[1]
JRR Tolkien, 1937
Deal with it! said:
Afrosapiens said:
Philosturbator, have you ever been to Israel ?
pumpkinperson said:
Philosturbator, have you ever been to Israel ?
He’s already stated that he has not.
Afrosapiens said:
Oh sorry, I’m not a fan of his I’ve read very little of him. He’d be glad to know that half of my in-laws are Israeli and that I can become very irritable about antisemitism and anti-zionism.
pumpkinperson said:
Oh sorry, I’m not a fan of his I’ve read very little of him. He’d be glad to know that half of my in-laws are Israeli and that I can become very irritable about antisemitism and anti-zionism.
Some whites and Arabs dislike Jews for the same reason some blacks dislike whites and Arabs and some pygmies/bushmen dislike black agriculturalists. Races with less wealth and power are always going to feel exploited by those higher on the power hierarchy because we don’t live in a pure meritocracy. As an HBD denier, you of all people should understand that.
Afrosapiens said:
I’m in love with a Sephardi Jew with roots in Morocco, what HBD has to say about that ?
pumpkinperson said:
I’m in love with a Sephardi Jew with roots in Morocco, what HBD has to say about that ?
It’s the Ashkenazi Jews that those on the alt-right criticize, because they’re the ones with power. Any “race” with power gets blamed by those who lack power.
Afrosapiens said:
Uh ? Whites lack power ?
Here in France, Ashkenazim and Sephardim are one, so what they say about Jews, they say it about my lover and I take it very personally.
Willie said:
Philosopher claims sex is “self actualisation”…
not the things that go along with sex, romance, etc. but *sex itself*.
Afro is right not to read him.
Philosopher’s IQ is 40 AT MOST.
Afrosapiens said:
“Philosopher’s IQ is 40 AT MOST.”
Yes, with mental illness in addition.
The Philosopher said:
I jest with my story above. But I think geopolitics will evolve in a similar fashion to what Tolkien metaphorically wrote….
Sauron used orcs (blacks) and Harradrim Saudis as well.
The LOTR is a barely disguised work of Human Biodiversity.
Willie said:
except no one has read your story.
No one at all.
The Philosopher said:
Thanks Dildos.
Your 105 IQ is destined for great things.
ruhkukah said:
what the heIl? Is this something to do with Randy McOprah?
The Philosopher said:
Click to access The_Protocols_of_the_Learned_Elders_of_Zion.pdf
The Protocols on Jewish Intelligence….Note, verbal intelligence.
“Per Me reges regnant”. (“It is through me that Kings
reign.”) And it was said by the prophets that we were chosen by
God Himself to rule over the whole earth. God has endowed us with
genius that we may be equal to our task. Were genius in the
opposite camp it would still struggle against us, but even so a
newcomer is no match for the old-established settler; the
struggle would be merciless between us, such a fight as the world
has never yet seen. Aye, and the genius on their side would have
arrived too late. All the wheels of the machinery of all States
go by the force of the engine, which is in our hands, and that
engine of the machinery of States is Gold. The science of
political economy invented by our learned elders has for long
past been giving royal prestige to capital.
In this difference in capacity for thought between the goyim
and ourselves may be clearly discerned the seal of our position
on the Chosen People and of our higher quality of humanness, in
contra-distinction to the brute mind of the goyim. Their eyes are
open, but see nothing before them and do not invent (unless,
perhaps, material things). From this it is plain that nature
herself has destined us to guide and rule the world.
…..
The Philosopher said:
The Protocols on the removal of the WASP elite
The aristocracy of the goyim as a political force, is dead –
– we need not take it into account; but as landed proprietors
they can still be harmful to us from the fact that they are selfsufficing
in the resources upon which they live. It is essential
therefore for us at whatever cost to deprive them of their land.
This object will be best attained by increasing the burdens upon
landed property — in loading lands with debt. These measures
will check land-holding and keep it in a state of humble and
unconditional submission.
….
To secure this we must have everybody vote without
distinction of classes and qualifications, in order to establish
an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated
propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of
self-importance, we shall destroy among the goyim the importance
of the family and its educational value and remove the
possibility of individual minds splitting off,
….
In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall
arrange elections in favour of such presidents as have in their
past some dark, undiscovered stain, some “Panama” or other —
then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of
our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire
of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the
privileges, advantages and honour connected with the office of
president.
The Philosopher said:
The Protocols on General Political Philosophy
Freedom is the right to do that which the law allows. This
interpretation of the word will at the proper time be of service
to us, because all freedom will thus be in our hands, since the
laws will abolish or create only that which is desirable for us
according to the aforesaid programme.
Is there any one of us who does
not know that these phantom blessings are the direct roads to
foolish imaginings which give birth to anarchical relations of
men among themselves and towards authority, because progress, or
rather the idea of progress, has introduced the conception of
every kind of emancipation, but has failed to establish its
limits. . . All the so-called liberals are anarchists, if not in
fact, at any rate in thought. Every one of them is hunting after
phantoms of freedom, and falling exclusively into license, that
is, into the anarchy of protest for the sake of protest
The Philosopher said:
Predicting the usage of the Social Justice Warrior Useful Idiot
for have
we not with complete success turned the brainless heads of the
goyim with progress, till there it not among the goyim one mind
able to perceive that under this work lies a departure from truth
in all cases where it is not a question of material inventions,
for truth is one, and in it there is no place for progress.
Progress, like a fallacious idea, serves to obscure truth so that
none may know it except us, the Chosen of God, its guardians.
When we come into our kingdom our orators will expound great
problems which have turned humanity upside down in order to bring
it at the end under our beneficent rule.
While preaching liberalism to the goyim
we at the same time keep our own people and our agents in a state
of unquestioning submission.
The Philosopher said:
Note the Protocols were written in 1903
Are the Protocols a forgery? I’m agnostic.
In any case, they are a very high level political philosophy work, and deserved to be studied by philosophy and politics students in their own right, even as a work of satire/fiction.
The point about the Whiggean presumption of progress, which can be easily used to manipulate people in a certain direction, when most societies social engineering is very stable historically, is very intriguing.
The Philosopher said:
I estimate the author of the Protocols to have an extremely high level of verbal intelligence. Taking into account the much poorer standard of nutrition and information availability of 1903.
It is a remarkable piece of work that I’d always been led to believe was a crude forgery by the ((((media))), until I sat down and read it just now.
The Philosopher said:
Note the various sexplaining the Jews have to write in advance of the actual text as well as the fact the top 20 results on Google don’t actually provide the main points or text of the Protocols but reason why its forged and evil…..
Hahahaha, almost like a parody of whats actually in the protocols text:
All our newspapers will be of all possible complexions —
aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical — for
so long, of course, as the constitution exists. . . Like the
Indian idol Vishnu they will have a hundred hands, and every one
of them will have a finger on any one of the public opinions as
required. When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in
the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power
of judgment and easily yields to suggestion.
Willie said:
Serious question PP;
Why have you allowed your blog to be an outlet for the psychotic ramblings of two semi-employed men (ahem)?
I assume you did not foresee this?
Afrosapiens said:
I asked the same question yesterday and I could get no answer.
Deal with it! said:
I’ve learned some stuff from Mugabe. You can too if you’re open minded. He has some interesting things to say on a vast array of topics IMO.
pumpkinperson said:
Willie wasn’t taking about Mug of Pee. he likes Mug of Pee.
Deal with it! said:
He obviously meant Philosturbator and Mugabe. They’re the only “psychotics” here.
pumpkinperson said:
No, I’m very good at reading people. He meant santo & philo
JS said:
PP: It’s very impressive that there are more than 700 comments here, and they are mostly written by one person. It’s quite a feat for a post that is only a week old!
pumpkinperson said:
Willie, I don’t know that anyone here is psychotic, but if they are, they’ll discredit themselves. As Oprah loves to say “what you focus on expands”. By constantly showering the people you dislike with attention, you’re causing their influence to grow. You should simply ignore the comments you don’t like and reward the comments you like with your attention. And if you’re creative, you can discredit ideas you don’t like while talking to people you do.
Afrosapiens said:
But PP, you can’t ignore that those guys are not normal. If you go to any website without racist/sexist or whatever kind of hateful ideology, you never meet guys like that.
pumpkinperson said:
But PP, you can’t ignore that those guys are not normal. If you go to any website without racist/sexist or whatever kind of hateful ideology, you never meet guys like that.
There’s nothing intrinsically hateful about HBD, BUT because humans are social animals and HBD is enormously taboo, many people who are drawn to HBD have something wrong with them because it’s psychologically abnormal to question group-think. We evolved to think like members of our tribe, so people who question the tribe, often have something wrong with the social brain (i.e. autism, schizophrenia)
The Philosopher said:
Afrosophists degree in African American studies really made him stand out for all the other candidates for adoption.
chocolate babies? said:
the voodoo priest proves that france is even more FUBAR than the US.
he’s yet another example of the real function of political correctness: its function is to exclude those who haven’t learned it or refuse to follow it. it’s just another form of classism.
that a haitian orphan should say such things is an abomination.
he’ll be very disappointed in april.
very!
chocolate babies? said:
http://s.tf1.fr/mmdia/i/69/2/2017-marine-le-pen-en-tete-sondage-11351692iivzl_1713.jpg?v=1
pumpkinperson said:
Tip: if you want photos to show, I’ve found it helps to delete anything after jpg in the url
chocolate babies? said:
ladies and gentlemen of the jury…
Afrosapiens said:
“We evolved to think like members of our tribe, so people who question the tribe, often have something wrong with the social brain (i.e. autism, schizophrenia)”
So you are aware that you have created a cyber psychiatric hospital ?
Your polls are nice but Alain Juppé and François Hollande are not running for presidency anymore. And Le Pen will anyway be beaten at the second round, François Fillon is going to be the next president.
Afrosapiens said:
“There’s nothing intrinsically hateful about HBD”
It is appealing to racists, and most often, it’s made attractive to them on purpose.
Anthropology, human biology, population genetics and many other topics that HBD mentions are discussed all over the web and in the scientific community without attracting all the racists of this planet.
chocolate babies? said:
you really believe france will be germany’s rent boy forever?
François Fillon? where i have heard that name before? ah yes…i remember. he used to be called Philippe Pétain.
maybe for a little while longer…but only a little while.
the eurozone’s disintegration is a fait accompli.
one needn’t be a “marxist” to know that the only thing which might save it is redistribution from the rich countries to the poor, germans paying taxes for unemployed spaniards, etc.
but this isn’t gonna happen. the deutschbags are delusional. they think the PIIGS are “lazy” spendthrifts.
the reality is that the germans work less than any other people on the planet, about 29h per week.
chocolate babies? said:
but then again according to varoufakis iirc…
the un-democratic nature of the EU is by design. it’s the carolingian empire all over again…except the french think they can steal it from the germans…they’ve got all the best bureaucrats.
not gonna happen frenchies.
Afrosapiens said:
“you really believe france will be germany’s rent boy forever?”
France is not Germany’s subordinate. It’s Germany’s consort. France is the only country that has virtually no obligation to follow the EU goals and recommendations. France has this statute thanks to its military, the most powerful in Europe (excluding Russia), her diplomatic influence and the expectation that she will become Europe’s number one economy and most populated country in the next 20 years.
“François Fillon? where i have heard that name before? ah yes…i remember. he used to be called Philippe Pétain.”
I never said I was happy that Fillon will become the next president, it’s just the most reasonable forecast, and by a large margin compared to Hillary vs Trump.
“the un-democratic nature of the EU is by design.”
Who’s to blame ? Who opposed the fact that the EU gets a constitution back in 2005 ?
chocolate babies? said:
France is not Germany’s subordinate. It’s Germany’s consort.
said the trophy wife.
…will become Europe’s number one economy and most populated country in the next 20 years.
populated by whom? the exact same people sarkozy called “racaille”. you really are in a bubble aren’t you? and who knows how fast the ethnically french are declining when collecting statistics on race is forbidden?
france excludes its minorities more than any other country in the oecd.
strongest economy? is this like gerard depardieu is sexiest man in all of france? of oecd countries the % of gdp from manufacturing is least in france. germany’s trade surplus is 9% of its gdp.
and y’all need to wear deodorant. the metro smells like a wrestling mat.
The Philosopher said:
The EU is a Bolshevik enterprise as foretold by the Protocols over 100 years ago.
If you read the Protocols and Lord Sydenham’s letter to the Spectator below, you can see the same basic collectivised apparatus is remarkably similar to the USSR Politburo.
The fact that most of the power of the EU is concentrated within its Commission, Courts and Central Bank is as Robert says, by design.
But Robert doesn’t know that design was sketched out at least 100 years ago in “painful detail” according to Sydenham.
Afrosapiens said:
“populated by whom? the exact same people sarkozy called “racaille”. you really are in a bubble aren’t you? and who knows how fast the ethnically french are declining when collecting statistics on race is forbidden?”
Yes, have you seen how French voters have been grateful to Sarkozy ever since ? French people are not anymore wanting do be duped by populism, even Marine Le Pen has succumbed to political correctness.
France is gonna be populated by French citizens. By the way, Germany has let 1 million refugees in in one year, so I don’t think the Germans are going to be more German than the French are French in the long run.
“france excludes its minorities more than any other country in the oecd.”
Hillarious !
“strongest economy? is this like gerard depardieu is sexiest man in all of france? of oecd countries the % of gdp from manufacturing is least in france. germany’s trade surplus is 9% of its gdp.”
Well, we have an expanding consumer market, various sectors of excellence, labor costs are not expected to rise much compared to Germany. Our GDP per capita is $37,000 theirs is $41,000 so we are able to catch up easily with our better demography.
chocolate babies? said:
bubble popping time:
1. france is 5 to 10% muslim.
2. 70% of french prisoners are muslims.
hmmm sounds just like blacks in the US…
except worse.
chocolate babies? said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/why-do-american-muslims-fare-better-their-french-counterparts-2189449
the unemployment rate for all immigrants was at 17.3 percent, almost double the nonimmigrant rate of 9.7 percent. A Stanford study concluded that a Christian citizen in France is two-and-a-half times more likely than a Muslim citizen with the same qualifications to get called for a job interview.
In the suburbs of Paris, where millions of first- and second-generation Arab and African immigrants live, unemployment is over 50 percent.
oh and why those hundreds of people killed in france lately by muslim terrorists?
how much blood must be shed to pop the bubble of people like you?
Afrosapiens said:
”
1. france is 5 to 10% muslim.
2. 70% of french prisoners are muslims.
hmmm sounds just like blacks in the US…
except worse.”
But our incarceration rate is 103/100,000 compared to 700 something in the US. So at worst, Muslim incarceration rate is at the level of the US average and nowhere near African American levels.
Afrosapiens said:
“oh and why those hundreds of people killed in france lately by muslim terrorists?”
Don’t you know that ISIS has declared war on France ?
“how much blood must be shed to pop the bubble of people like you?”
Lol. The French mind doesn’t have the inclination for paranoia that the American mind has. We don’t dramatize things here, we don’t have people going with guns to a restaurant over some internet gossips.
chocolate babies? said:
clearly it’s gonna be a lot more blood.
Afrosapiens said:
There is no Fox News here, we’re not seeing apocalypse each time we turn the TV on.
chocolate babies? said:
you’re repellent.
The Philosopher said:
Hi Willie,
Censorship is what caused many people to not know about HBD all their lives.
It also is the reason why we have open borders and the Donald Trump presidency.
Censorship is for intellectually feeble people like you that learn their news from the back of the Corn Flakes boxes while wearing oxygen masks.
Issss bad. Did you know Zionist Jews control 90%+ of the mainstream media, most universities and all of the Hollywood studios?
We have enough censorship from them.
Can’t we all…jus….y’know….speak freely?
chocolate babies? said:
semi? 35 is enough for me. 40 is pushy. size queen will be doing 80 in no time. by the time she’s 30 she’ll be hideous, divorced, with a mulatto baby…so sad…and she’ll never accumulate much…she’ll spend her salary on shoes and handbags.
like mandingo-phile, willie is a youngin, an arrant classist and racist but from west virginia and less than white who constantly accuses other people of his own character flaws.
the jews control his mind, and he doesn’t know it. he is meant not to know it.
Deal with it! said:
Money is meant to be spent. Otherwise it’s just paper.
Afrosapiens said:
“the jews control his mind”
Can’t you leave the Jews alone one minute ?
Willie said:
Classist?
I used to be.
Racist?
Not really. I think African-American culture has got some major issues but I don’t hold it against all Blacks or even all African-Americans.
Less than White?
If you don’t count 96% White, then yes.
Deal with it! said:
My response to Mugabe.
resting bitch face
Willie said:
MUGABE
A few thoughts on your Trump 2016, Bernie 2020 ideology;
Looking at West Virginia, we can see that poor Whites, isolated in their own culture and 95%-99% White communities STILL do not vote democrat. No paranoia about “non-Whites taking welfare”.
They still vote republican.
Why could this be?
1. Culture that emphasizes individualism and not even taking money for yourself.
2. Demonrats will do stuff to coal to take our jobs
3. Dems are fags
etc.
see how many of these don’t have to do with race/nationalism.
chocolate babies? said:
and eastern ky is even worse.
how’d they used to vote?
it used to be that the poor whites of appalachia and the south were all democrats even though the dems since william jennings bryan have been “the party of the little man”. my grandfather was a segregationist and democrat who used just that phrase. the only reason why the dems need the homo vote and the homo money is they’ve lost the whites.
this poor whites being dems goes all the way up to the civil rights bill of 1964, after which it abruptly ended.
here’s the eisenhower/stevenson electoral map:
notice the blue in e ky and wv.
kennedy nixon:
it seems inarguable. it’s all about race.
Willie said:
MUGABE
including BUT NOT LIMITED TO race.
It’s about other social changes too.
Dagoes, Homos, furfags, wimmins, WHOMEVER getting rights post 1960.
Social Change IN GENERAL.
race is just one of those factors.
Willie said:
whomever *is* getting rights post-1960
Deal with it! said:
Let me guess… your conclusion is that civil rights are bad and that segregation should be brought back. Lol! You sympathize with the white trash but very rarely with the poor and downtrodden blacks. Do you really think you are not racist?
The Philosopher said:
Honestly, Deal With It!
Are you trolling?
If you are I change my view that you have the lowest IQ on the thread, and put you above me.
chocolate babies? said:
social progress is a distraction from the only issue that matters. politics is class struggle.
in the 1950s the US was:
1. less unequal,
2. more mobile.
it’s easy…unless the jews control your mind.
tune in to NPR, MSNBC, FOX. read Time or Newsweek or the NYTs. it’s all the same rot. it’s distraction. and if you’re not on board with the distraction you’re “deplorable”.
what did peter thiel say?
When I was a kid, the great debate was about how to defeat the Soviet Union. And we won. Now we are told that the great debate is about who gets to use which bathroom. This is a distraction from our real problems. Who cares?…fake culture wars only distract us from our economic decline, and nobody in this race is being honest about it except Donald Trump.
supposing does nothing about these, but fixes immigration. then he’s defeated by a berniebot. it’s the best possible outcome.
Willie said:
Racism is an abstraction/concept.
It does not exist empirically.
You chimp out over a concept/idea that you don’t like.
It’s really quite amusing.
The Philosopher said:
The following letter appeared in the “Spectator”
of August 27th, 1921.
Sir,
When the PROTOCOLS first appeared in English it was
pointed out that they embodied a forgery perpetrated by the
Tsar’s police with the idea of promoting pogroms. It now appears
that they are adapted from a “pamphlet” of 1865 attacking the
Second Empire.” This is most interesting, but it explains nothing.
As you point out, Mrs. Webster has shown the PROTOCOLS to be
full of plagiarism which she effectively explained by the use of
parallel columns, and before her most able book appeared Mr.
Lucien Wolfe had traced other similarities. As the PROTOCOLS were
obviously a compilation this was to be expected, and further
resemblances may be discovered. The importance of the most sinister
compilation that has ever appeared resides in the subject
matter. The PROTOCOLS explain in almost laborious detail the
objects of BOLSHEVISM and the methods of carrying it into effect.
These methods were in operation in 1901 when Nilus said that he
received the documents, but BOLSHEVISM was then MARXIAN COMMUNISM,
and the time had not come for applying it by military
force. Nothing that was written in 1865 can have any bearing upon
the deadly accuracy of the forecasts in the PROTOCOL, most of
which have since been fulfilled to the letter. Moreover, the
principles they enunciate corresponds closely with the recorded
statements of JEWISH authorities. If you read the American edition,
with its valuable annexes, you will understand this, and
the confirmatory quotations there given can be multiplied. Even
the “JEWISH WORLD DESPOTISM,” which you described as a “piece of
malignant lunacy,” is not obscurely hinted at. Take this one
quotation from JEWISH STATE, by Theodore Herzl:
“Where we sink we become revolutionary proletariat, the
subordinate officers of the revolutionary party: when we
rise, there rises also our terrible power of the purse.”
Compare this ominous statement with those of the PROTOCOLS, of
which it is plainly an echo.
I note with thankfulness that you say that the discovery of
the French pamphlet “does not clear up the whole mystery.” Indeed
it does not, and if you will carefully read Mr. Ford’s amazing
disclosure you will wish for more light. The main point is, of
course, the source from which Nilus obtained the PROTOCOLS. The
Russians who knew Nilus and his writings cannot all have been
exterminated by the BOLSHEVIKS. His book, in which the PROTOCOLS
only form one chapter, has not been translated though it would
give some idea of the man. He was, I have been told by a Russian
lady, absolutely incapable either of writing any portion of the
PROTOCOLS or of being a party to fraud.
What is the most striking characteristic of the PROTOCOLS?
The answer is knowledge of a rare kind, embracing the widest
field. The solution of the “MYSTERY,” if it is one, is to be
found by ascertaining where this uncanny knowledge on which
prophecies now literally fulfilled are based, can be shown to
reside.
I am, Sir, &c.,
SYDENHAM
Deal with it! said:
You’re a lunatic dude. Like I just feel bad for you. No hate, just pity on your lunacy and small penis.
chocolate babies? said:
you’re too young to understand darling squaw.
mssr philosopher is the second best commenter this blog has ever had.
you should be thankful he deigns share his illumination with us.
Deal with it! said:
But honey he insulted me! You are such a bad bf!
chocolate babies? said:
chocolate babies? said:
extremely interesting. you might have highlighted:
Nothing that was written in 1865 can have any bearing upon
the deadly accuracy of the forecasts in the PROTOCOL, most of
which have since been fulfilled to the letter. Moreover, the
principles they enunciate corresponds closely with the recorded
statements of JEWISH authorities. If you read the American edition,
with its valuable annexes, you will understand this, and
the confirmatory quotations there given can be multiplied.
i’d like to read that “american edition”. is “mr. ford”, henry ford?
the problem with “prophecies now literally fulfilled” is the meaning of “literal”? people will tend to see fulfilment of vague prophecy, astrology, nostradamus etc.
Willie said:
LePen has issues, but there is some benefit to her election; mainly on the international scene.
She’s pro-Russian, she (and the rest of Europe going the way of France) could stem the backlash if Trump becomes another Dubya and is conned by Bibi into scrapping the Iran deal. Russia is of course an Iranian ally.
If Putin has no investment in a long term solution in Syria (keeps Assad a puppet, weakens Western Europe with ‘trojan horses’), and Trump begins to distrust Putin, it could easily open the path for Neocons like his own son-in-law to trick him into going full neocon.
The Philosopher said:
And closing the border and preventing the slow painful Dead Marshes of Multikultism death to grubbers like Afrosemantics and other assorted 3rd world marauders.
They ain’t called ‘independence’ movements for nothing.
Poort Gert Wilders today.
‘Independence’ from whom you may ask?
Hahahahahahaha
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Willie said:
now you’re sounding like Mugabe with the “independence” line.
chocolate babies? said:
the philosopher’s “zion” may be charitably paraphrased as, “un-democratic supranational/globalist organizations”.
The Philosopher said:
Afrosemantics doesn’t know anything about economics it seems.
Fallacy of composition
Just because you have the highest population, doesn’t mean labour productivity p.c or capital substitution elasticity can’t happen wrt labour as GDP grows.
With clannish low empathy third world North Africans and high testosterone marauding blacks having higher repro rates than whites, I actually expect further stagnation.
If you look at the USA PISA score, if you shipped all the 3rd worlders back to the 3rd world, America would in essence be like any other European country in terms of median real income p.hour worked, gun crime and intellectual ability.
Afrosapiens said:
“Just because you have the highest population, doesn’t mean labour productivity p.c or capital substitution elasticity can’t happen wrt labour as GDP grows.”
In France’s situation and relative to Germany, higher and especially younger population means:
-lower labor costs
-increased consumption
-Increased VAT income
Whereas Germany is heading toward a Japanese scenario in which growth has been almost null for 20 years now, and GDP per capita has shrunk to $32,000.
chocolate babies? said:
if those are the criteria then france should have no borders. let’s be neighbors. hope you don’t mind the smell.
-lower labor costs
this is the contradiction at the heart of capitalism regurgitated by a haitian orphan. what has the world come to?
GDP growth is what matters not higher living standards?
since 1970 in the US real wages haven’t budged. the only reason household income is up is that women are working.
GDP per capita is meaningless when neoliberals own the government.
Afrosapiens said:
“this is the contradiction at the heart of capitalism regurgitated by a haitian orphan. what has the world come to?
GDP growth is what matters not higher living standards?”
I personally oppose lowering taxes and destroying the welfare state, and I’m the one who pays the most taxes here, more in year than what santoculto will ever make in his life.
So if we want to keep and even expand our welfare state and public services, we have to keep the same tax burden. Only lower wages relative to similar countries can keep us competitive.
And that’s a more egalitarian policy than removing taxes and letting wages grow even more unequal.
chocolate babies? said:
so lower wages allow french business to “stay competitive”. translation if wages grow prices will have to be raised to maintain a satisfactory level of profit and high wages for executives. but then the profit and high comp will be taxed away to support the people whose wages don’t pay them enough to live.
seems like six and one half dozen to me.
the only difference is that businesses which require low wages to exist won’t exist. unlike the uk there’s little tolerance for garbage jobs in germany. when garbage jobs are included in unemployment the real state of the economy is seen.
Afrosapiens said:
“translation if wages grow prices will have to be raised to maintain a satisfactory level of profit and high wages for executives.”
Wage inflation is harmful to the economy, especially in a country where a larger share of the population is old and lives on their savings.
“the people whose wages don’t pay them enough to live.”
The minimum wage in France is decent, in addition, there are universal welfare benefits and public housing is extensive.
“unlike the uk there’s little tolerance for garbage jobs in germany.”
Are you serious ? Their service sector wages are ridiculous. And they’ve got their state-imposed €1/h job if they stay unemployed to long.
chocolate babies? said:
Wage inflation is harmful to the economy…
the jews control your mind too. very sad.
Are you serious?
i’m just quoting a british economist.
the same thing has happened in the uk as has happened in the US apparently:
It’s true that since 2007, job growth has come from a large range of fairly low-wage sectors. The food and drinking services industry, which includes most bars and restaurants, has grown by 17% — while average weekly pay in this industry is only $339 a week. Home-health care services — mostly home-health aides — has grown by an astonishing 48%, but the average weekly pay is only $548…It’s also true that many of the shrinking industries have been middle wage. Specialty trade contractors — which includes many construction workers — has seen employment fall by more than 10%. Those jobs paid more than $1,000 a week. Other middle-wage jobs losing employment include many manufacturing industries…Overall, the data also show that more people work minimum wage or involuntarily part time than prior to the recession…So were all the jobs we created since the recession bad? Well, yes and no. It’s true that many low-wage industries have been growing, many middle-wage industries have shrunk, and more people work part time or for minimum wage than did a decade ago.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/05/11/just-how-good-or-bad-are-all-the-jobs-added-to-the-economy-since-the-recession/
so what’s really going on? lion and i know.
1. “the economy” is a political construct…this is obvious to all who haven’t been brainwashed. that is, treating production, distribution, wages, employment as if they were a thing, a natural phenomenon, outside human control is a political act.
2. this thing called “the economy” finds an equilibrium. when 20% of the workforce does everything, the redundant will still find work, but it won’t be work. the effect of automation and outsourcing is that this redundant % is now 80%.
full employment at stupid pointless very low paying jobs is touted as a success by the reigning ideology, and…
if only the minimum wage were high enough that it really did result in mass unemployment all this would be revealed.
Afrosapiens said:
“Are you serious?”
Yes, In France minimum wage is decent and supplemented by universal benefits. Almost no one here works two or three jobs to make a decent living. Wages don’t need to increase more, inflation would decrease our currency’s value, increase the price of our imports, increase the interest rates on our debt. Even if it brings exports competitiveness that’s unsustainable in the long run.
chocolate babies? said:
Wages don’t need to increase more…
ok. then you’ll never catch up to germany.
chocolate babies? said:
this is an example of how when it comes to money one should believe in HBD to an extent.
it was a few years ago that the majority of newborns became non-white. some of these are asian…a tiny part. in fact all races have tfrs < 2 except hispanics and theirs is close to 2. demography is destiny ala latin america and s africa. the fruit pickers, boxwallas, and coolies aren't going to save the US economy.
they say down under: two wongs don’t make a white. but i’ll take two wongs over two latin americans.
that is, the US will suffer the same stagnation as europe and japan even though its population is still growing. the trump rally so far is in the 97th percentile of rallies since 1985. not gonna last. the bond apocalypse is never gonna happen.
The Philosopher said:
Perhaps the most insidious element of open borders, even with the Wongs and the Wights, is the breakdown in social cohesion and noblesse oblige.
Neoliberalism at the micro level and macro level cannot exist if we are all the same team.
The aristocracy of rentiers and capitalists is infinitely more empathetic to the common man, when he is of the same race, religion, nationality and in cases like Carnegie, Ford and so on…the same social class.
chocolate babies? said:
this is all exactly right. globalism and the eu are code for loss of national and therefore popular sovereignty.
chomsky has noted that a loss of solidarity has been encouraged by the neo-liberal elite.
heterogeneity and popular sovereignty are inherently in conflict. this may have been more obvious prior to the dems adopting indentity politics. it’s more than a distraction. it actually channels anger and hatred toward poor whites.
afro is a wight but not a white…according to santa claus. first saw that word in Marlowe’s The Jew of Malta.
The Philosopher said:
Note how Sydenham draws the correct link between Zionism and Bolshevism.
Note how Hitler also drew this link.
chocolate babies? said:
and note how stalin severed the link…and it stayed severed all the way up to the end in 1991 iirc.
kamenev, zinoviev, trotsky, yagoda, etc.
was stalin a jew hater? surprisingly no. it was just that jews were so over-represented among old bolshies.
the most powerful jew in soviet history was an illiterate shoemaker…kaganovich.
The Philosopher said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism
Beria assassinated Stalin when Stalin decided to come up with his own final solution in Siberia for the Jews.
chocolate babies? said:
beria was a geogian not a jew, and beria himself was executed soon after dzhugashvili’s death..
and the jewish autonomous oblast was a reality to an extent.
Mikey blayze said:
Hey I’m back guys my kids 2 months away. Nice to see everyone is still killing each other.
Deal with it! said:
Ok I’ll stop acting like a dumb bimbo now… I’m not an idiot I swear.
Deal with it! said:
However, I have a bimbo mode which when I turn on sort of takes on a life of its own… I will turn it off. Lemme find the switch.
chocolate babies? said:
the truly despicable classism of some black people we all know.
1. i drive a range rover, and i pay more in taxes than santo will make in his entire life…wage inflation is bad for economies…
2. Simple: what it means to be a middle-aged White person without a college degree has changed over the years, since more people go to college.
In other words, these are the genetic dregs that are dying off. —Jayman.
of all people they deserve the appellation “nigger”.
chocolate babies? said:
meanwhile…
so what has really happened? why was executive comp so much less?
the real reason is NOT an economic one. it’s a cultural one. the old culture still prevails in japan. BusinessWeek reports that the disclosures reveal that the average compensation of a Japanese CEO is less than one-sixth that of their American counterpart and 16 times more than the average Japanese worker.
why has the culture changed? it it just drift? perhaps the ruling elite are a different kind of people. a greedy, amoral kind of people.
Afrosapiens said:
“the truly despicable classism of some black people we all know.”
How am I classist ? I just told you that increasing tax income was preferable to increasing wage income because it enables more equal redistribution through welfare and public services. True classism is when you want both taxes and wages to decrease.
Charity has been an important part of my life since I was a child. I respect the poor, I respect the poor that respect the other poor instead of blaming them for their own poverty.
The Philosopher said:
If Kinshasa had more numbers or were a majority, whites would literally be pillaged and robbed openly and de facto legally. This talented tenth nice guy stuff isn’t fooling anyone that’s aware of Mugabe…the real Mugabe, or Jamaica, or Chicago.
Afrosapiens said:
“whites would literally be pillaged and robbed openly and de facto legally.”
No, they would be exterminated, Haïtian style.
The Philosopher said:
Exactly, that’s why you can see I’m not a big fan of open borders Afro. Glad you’re coming around. I mean, whose going to bother to adopt and cuckold then? You know. Who?
JS said:
Much of what we think of charity in America is what Lion’s blog call value transference — the siphoning of charity funds to benefit the dolers and piecemeal scraps for the ones to be doled.
Presidents of major American Charitable Organizations operate like the CEOs of Corporate America.
JS said:
While of all Western Civ is suffering of a form of malaise from abundance, wealth and pluralism, the Anglo Prole Sphere is the most degenerate and ignorant — lest unable to assimilate and adapt to the various elements that it intentionally inherited…hence the dysfunction that one finds in our politics. Left-Right politics vacillate back and forth, not knowing of its ideologue.
So the French are the most intellectual, as stated by Santo and I agree — French Canadians, despite being a lower breed of Gallic culture operate in the same fashion.
Maybe PP can analyze the IQ of these French Canadian school children in the movie. They seem to have a higher IQ that one finds in an American school setting.
This movie is about an Algerian immigrant who speaks Parisian French, where he teaches a group of French Canadian children in Québec, after their teacher committed suicide. They seem to misunderstand his proper French, because they only understand Québec French. This film was highly regarded as very creative and dramatic by our stupid American liberals. There is a mentioning of Islamic mysticism in the movie, something a Hollywood film would never include, except portraying Muslims as dumb terrorists.
Afrosapiens said:
“Presidents of major American Charitable Organizations operate like the CEOs of Corporate America.”
Charities, like companies, have to be economically viable.
JS said:
Anglophone speakers in French Canada are perceived like Jews. They are hated and persecuted, and Québec wants to stamp them out where they move to Greater Israel known as the Anglo Prole Sphere.
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/young-anglophones-feel-theyre-being-pushed-out
Is this a coincidence? Obnoxious-whiny Anglo riff-raff are synonymous with Jews.
JS said:
And some of the comments are correct on this blog about American Islamophobes who view Muslims at a race angle instead of religion: Most of the Muslim immigrants in the non-Anglo Western world do not come from lower caste, dark brown regions that one finds in the UK and the USA. Levantines and Turks, and to a certain extent North Africans are not synonymous with South Asians and Gulf Arabs.
chocolate babies? said:
fine. you were just mad at santa for calling you an ape.
but jayman’s comments are horrible…coming from him.
Afrosapiens said:
“fine. you were just mad at santa for calling you an ape.
but jayman’s comments are horrible…coming from him.”
Mad is a bit exaggerated but I wanted him to know where his place is, and it worked, he’s now gone for a little while.
I don’t get why you mention jayman.
chocolate babies? said:
I just told you that increasing tax income was preferable to increasing wage income because it enables more equal redistribution through welfare and public services.
so you weren’t talking about the french GDP per capita growing to match germany’s, just the french GDP growing to match germany’s?
i misunderstood.
because if french gdp per capita is growing and the whole while median wages are kept flat…all that extra income is going to the 1%…but this is ok if taxes rise at the same time. i agree…except why should “wage inflation” of the 1% not have a bad effect? because they don’t spend their “wages”? except they do, in a sense, if their higher wages are taxed away. if taxes and govt spending rise why should this not have the same effect as a more general wage inflation?
for example, as krugman has noted, many cassandras claimed that qe would cause hyper-inflation despite the example of japan. why doesn’t it? because qe goes into the pockets of the rich. fiscal expansion of the sort you suggest is more likely to cause inflation though again it has not in japan.
and the 1% will claim it is inequitable. the great focus on wages and jobs in the US is all the result of the assumption that there is already enough redistribution. my understanding is that prior to redistribution france and germany are just as unequal as the US, perhaps slightly more.
chocolate babies? said:
no. no. no.
executive comp at non-profits is also totally out of control.
university presidents do not need to make > $1m per year to assure the viability of their uni.
Afrosapiens said:
“no. no. no.
executive comp at non-profits is also totally out of control.
university presidents do not need to make > $1m per year to assure the viability of their uni.”
I didn’t know about the situation of the US, there is no such trend in France.
chocolate babies? said:
Mad is a bit exaggerated but I wanted him to know where his place is…
i take that back. you really are a horrible person.
Afrosapiens said:
“i take that back. you really are a horrible person.”
Alright, that’s fine.
Afrosapiens said:
“so you weren’t talking about the french GDP per capita growing to match germany’s, just the french GDP growing to match germany’s?”
Yes, I said, and most people think the same, that France and Germany’s GDP per capita are close enough for France to surpass Germany in GDP by the sole fact of their differential in demographic dynamism.
“except why should “wage inflation” of the 1% not have a bad effect? because they don’t spend their “wages”? except they do, in a sense, if their higher wages are taxed away. if taxes and govt spending rise why should this not have the same effect as a more general wage inflation?”
The income of the rich is saved or invested in the economy rather than spent on consumption, it has limited impact on inflation. In the French situation, a rise in government revenue will be first used to address the issue of debt and budget balance. Then, if there is increased redistribution, it will be directed to the poor, allowing their total income to catch up with price increase whereas limited growth in middle class income will have the effect of lowering global inflationary pressure.
“fiscal expansion of the sort you suggest is more likely to cause inflation though again it has not in japan.”
I’m not exactly talking about increasing taxes but rather keeping the same tax burden relative to GDP while decreasing the labor share of income so that the state can keep on spending on welfare and public services, business have better profitability and employment is made easier by competitive labor costs.
“and the 1% will claim it is inequitable. the great focus on wages and jobs in the US is all the result of the assumption that there is already enough redistribution. my understanding is that prior to redistribution france and germany are just as unequal as the US, perhaps slightly more.”
France was dirt poor before we got our welfare state in its modern form
Poverty went from 36% in 1960 to 10% in 1991, compared with 21% to 12% in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state#Effects_of_welfare_on_poverty
There surely isn’t enough redistribution in the US, and that won’t change because Americans don’t want social justice if it also means racial justice.
ruhkukah said:
I don’t understand how Jayman is wrong here. I believe he made that statement on Lion of the Blogosphere. He was just pointing out that whites w/o college nowadays are different than whites w/o college education 50 years ago. First and foremost, they’re a lot stupider (consider how easy it is to get a BA in America nowadays).
Deal with it! said:
I know I won’t get through to Mugabe’s thick skull but “squaw” is a racist term. It’s not cute.
chocolate babies? said:
i agree.
squaws are seldom cute.
Afrosapiens said:
Five major mental illnesses — depression, bipolar disorder, ADHD, schizophrenia and autism — are traceable to the same inherited genetic variations, according to the largest genome-wide study of its kind. These variations account for 17-28 percent of mental illness risk.
http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/08/19/5-major-mental-illnesses-traced-to-same-genetic-variations/58642.html
chocolate babies? said:
no. it doesn’t mean what you think it means.
The overlap in heritability that could be attributed to common genetic variation was about 15 percent between schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, about 10 percent between bipolar disorder and depression, about 9 percent between schizophrenia and depression, and about 3 percent between schizophrenia and autism.
unless you thought it meant that mental illness is hardly genetic at all.
the 17-18% is all the overlapping regions added together.
Afrosapiens said:
No I pointed to the common gene hypothesis. Because PP believes that autism and schizophrenia emerged from opposite selection pressures. Which is nearly impossible if they are caused by the same genetic variation.
pumpkinperson said:
No I pointed to the common gene hypothesis. Because PP believes that autism and schizophrenia emerged from opposite selection pressures. Which is nearly impossible if they are caused by the same genetic variation.,
No I believe autism and schizophrenia are opposites on one dimension (r vs K; coolness vs nerdiness) while being at the same extreme on another dimension (executive function) so your finding is consistent with my nuanced hypothesis.
Afrosapiens said:
But autism and schizophrenia only exist at the level of executive function.
The Philosopher said:
Jimmy makes such a good point. Bill Clinton achieved things that 90s Republicans couldn’t have achieved in their wildest dreams with the prez:
NAFTA
Glass Steagall Repeal
Media Deregulation
Welfare Reform
Defense of Marriage Act
Its amazing!
Maybe the Republican cucks should have run Clinton!
The Philosopher said:
Bill Clinton destroyed the middle class and democrat party turning it into the Republican party sans abortion/gay rights/pro-giraffe lives matter movement.
chocolate babies? said:
money is made to be spent otherwise it’s just paper…
what peepee hasn’t considered is that leisure is a consumable.
that is, one may regard savings as spending on leisure…to be consumed in the future.
as lazy white trash i value nothing more than leisure…not even booze…maybe not.
pumpkinperson said:
It’s not me. It’s just trolling you.
Deal with it! said:
Peepee has no peepee
chocolate babies? said:
if what peepee meant was what jdr meant…i agree.
I know of nothing more despicable and pathetic than a man who devotes all the hours of the waking day to the making of money for money’s sake.
chocolate babies? said:
the difference is that when one saves he can’t be sure what he’s buying…investment returns are a random variable.
Afrosapiens said:
This post needs to hit the 1000 comments bar.
chocolate babies? said:
it just needs to hit the bar…
wherein my word salad becomes a waldorf salad.
You’re the top!
You’re a Waldorf salad.
You’re the top!
You’re a Berlin ballad.
The Philosopher said:
Notice the human inclination for symmetry. I have it myself I must hasten to add.
chocolate babies? said:
symmetry was the basis of my statement that smart people tend to be better looking. it may be bad science, but i have read that IQ is positively correlated with facial symmetry which itself has been found to be one aspect of attractiveness.
of course most smart people are ugly…but only because most people are ugly.
chocolate babies? said:
so iiuc:
1. afro is a haitian orphan adopted by a rich and upper class french family. he is not one of those haitian mulattos like dumas pere but 100% black african.
2. he passed the concours and therefore has a very high IQ.
if this is all true one can see why his own experience is disconfirmation of HBD. it’s only one data point, but it’s the most important data point for him.
it also makes the anecdotal point that prenatal environment is NOT important and that the social class of one’s parents and not the genes of one’s parents is important.
but maybe afro is just another dumas or pushkin…a high IQ mulatto, quadroon, octoroon, whatever. could be.
pumpkinperson said:
1. afro is a haitian orphan adopted by a rich and upper class french family. he is not one of those haitian mulattos like dumas pere but 100% black african.
Not just virtually 100% black African, but 100% slave African, and from one of the poorest slums in a region populated by 100% slave Africans, so every demographic of his origin points to low IQ genes, and yet he passed the concours? How difficult is the concours?
Afrosapiens said:
I’m not a mulatto, I’m black you can’t tell whether I’m African or Caribbean. I was 9 months old when I was abandoned, and 16 months old when adopted.
“How difficult is the concours?”
There has never been more than 5% success rate at the concours.
pumpkinperson said:
There has never been more than 5% success rate at the concours.
And what percent of the general France population takes it, and how are they selected to take it? Do you get a specific score, or is it just pass or fail?
Afrosapiens said:
There are about 10,000 applicants each year, that’s something like 0,5% to 1% of France’s undergrad population. You get a score and get admitted according to your rank order and the number of new entrants set this year.
pumpkinperson said:
Not sure what you mean by undergrad population; what I’m wondering is what percentage of all 25 year old citizens of France have taken it?
Afrosapiens said:
what I’m wondering is what percentage of all 25 year old citizens of France have taken it?
Less than 1%.
pumpkinperson said:
less than 1%
Interesting. Less than 1% take it, and of those 1% only 5% pass it. Assuming all the top talent take it (which is assumed for the SAT in the U.S.), less than one in 2000 French young adults would pass it if all took it. So on the IQ scale, passing it is equivalent to an IQ of about 150, though I don’t know how g loaded this test is.
Afrosapiens said:
“So on the IQ scale, passing it is equivalent to an IQ of about 150, though I don’t know how g loaded this test is.”
I don’t know either, the common exam consists in three tests of analytic reading and two English tests. Then you chose dissertations or text analysis in 4 subjects depending on your speciality. If you pass the first step you go for 4 oral exams, which the first includes some role play, the second is a presentation, the third is an English conversation, the fourth is an Italian/German/Spanish conversation, the fifth is an oral logic test. It’s a very long process as a whole, IQ is less important than confidence, perseverance and stress management.
pumpkinperson said:
Sounds moderately g loaded, but perhaps not as g loaded as the SAT, since knowledge of multiple languages is very coachable. By contrast the SAT focuses on knowledge of English which all native born Americans have been constantly exposed to their whole lives. The fact that you passed shows you were in the top 5% of the very select group of people who take this test, but do you know if you did even better than the top 5%? (i.e. top 4%?)
Afrosapiens said:
My class (2011) admitted 380 students, I don’t know how many applicants there were. I ranked 87th.
pumpkinperson said:
My class (2011) admitted 380 students, I don’t know how many applicants there were. I ranked 87th.
And presumably everyone admitted to your class scored in the top 5% on the concours. So you being 87th out of 380 suggests you were at least in the top 23% of those who pass the Concours, and those who pass the Concours are in the top 5% of those who take the Concours, and those who take the Concours are in the top 1% of France academically. So it sounds like you academically ranked in the top one out of 8,696 of France. If the Concours were to be considered an IQ proxy, your score would be about 155 (France norms); 153 (white norms).
Afrosapiens said:
Thank you but I know what my actual IQ is, or what it was when I skipped a grade in primary school. And I don’t even know how you can determine France’s norms and how they differ from US white norms.
pumpkinperson said:
I’m not saying that is your IQ; only what your academic score equates to on an IQ scale. But unlike Mug of Pee, i don’t consider college admission exams to be IQ tests
According to Lynn, France’s IQ is similar to America’s and only 2 points below the average white americans
Afrosapiens said:
“As is also the case for other top French grandes écoles, HEC’s reputation relies on its highly competitive entrance exam, a concours jointly organized with other French business schools. Among the 9,500 students sitting the concours after 2 years of preparatory classes, HEC has an admission rate of 4% and a yield of 99.7%.[7]
HEC has many notable alumni in business and politics.[8] In 2011, 12 of the 40 largest French publicly traded companies have an alumnus of HEC Paris as CEO (or equivalent).[9] With regards to the number of CEOs of Fortune Global 500 companies, HEC ranks as the 4th higher education institution in the world, and the 1st in Europe.[10]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEC_Paris
Afrosapiens said:
To apply to the concours you need to have completed prep school (Classe préparatoire aux Grandes Ecoles) or have an undergrad degree in Law, business, management, administration and related subjects.
Afrosapiens said:
“it also makes the anecdotal point that prenatal environment is NOT important and that the social class of one’s parents and not the genes of one’s parents is important.”
Yes and no, when we talk about IQ here, we talk about averages but there are extremes in every sample. I’ve been under pressure to go to a top college, when work in prep school was truly harassing I happened to think all of this was pointless. When I got to college I realized that there was something more important than the program itself, that’s the networking you can do there. This is the place where all the local elites of the country gather and that’s a huge boost in life, more than the degree itself, it’s just a master’s degree, not a Phd, you don’t become a rocket scientist there but you make fruitful relationships. Without the networking aspect, I don’t think it’s essential to go to a top college.
The Philosopher said:
http://www.statisticbrain.com/iq-estimates-by-intended-college-major/
Well Pump, there’s your data with averages and SATs.
Create a composite IQ for law/biz/management and extrapolate from there.
The Philosopher said:
I would assume classics would rank very highly as well. Apparently classics students have a higher verbal than even philosophy.
The Philosopher said:
I knew a guy that married a classics student. She was very well spoken but in a horrifying twist, was later found to have schizophrenia…of the more psychotic nature. Terrifying. She concealed it for years and admitted to hearing voices telling her to hurt the guy.
chocolate babies? said:
i looked it up peepee.
apparently the concours allows one to skip the undergrad or rather do it in two years.
so france has these special prep schools for elite graduate schools. the concours would be taken by 19 or 20 y olds iiurc.
In June 2007, 534,300 students passed the “Baccalauréat”, and 40,000 (7.5%)[3] of them were admitted to CPGE. On a given class at one of the prep schools listed above, around 1500 application files will be examined for only 40 places.[4] Students are selected according to their grades in High school and the first part of “Baccalauréat” (equivalent to A-levels in the United Kingdom or Advanced Placement in the United States).
The Philosopher said:
The other possibility is that Afro is an orphan of an upper class talented tenth and rich Haitian family himself and that his parents had some sort of aristo ties with the country, hence the choice to volunteer there.
For example, he also mentions his social circle introduced him to Moroccan elite jews. Another nation with French siring. It’s quite common for old colonial elite ties to endure for many decades.
In fact it’s speculated Michelle Pfeiffer adopted her daughter upon working with a school teacher who had a mulatto baby during research for her movie. Often just mere proximity to a potential adopter of one’s child can cause the biological parent to decide to do put the kid up for adoption – the child could be illegitimate, sired by a father that would cause embarrassment to the mother’s family, and so on.
I’m sure there must be research on causes of adoption by upper class people.
Although it must be noted Haiti is probably ‘bigged up’ by Zion’s media and so a gullible white liberal family may have genuinely adopted a randomer from the slums….but I just doubt an upper class one, too discerning. They don’t pick randomly.
pumpkinperson said:
Although it must be noted Haiti is probably ‘bigged up’ by Zion’s media and so a gullible white liberal family may have genuinely adopted a randomer from the slums
I don’t the word gullible applies here. Adoption is an act of charity, not an investment. Some people adopt kids with physical and mental abilities; they’re not gullible, they’re just very nice.
The Philosopher said:
They are gullible when adopting a disabled child from Haiti and not Bangladesh or Ecuador.
Afrosapiens said:
Lol, I’m not diasbled. Why don’t you adopt non-black kids if you think they’ve been unfair ?
The Philosopher said:
Well looks like Zion has lost in Syria for now. Towards the end there you could tell they were losing when Israel decided to send its own men in. They usually never do the dirty work and let brits and americans fight for Zion.
The Philosopher said:
Or the French!! Hahaha.
I think you could count Zion’s casualties in Iraq,Yemen,Syria, Afghanistan, Libya and Somalia on one hand.
The Philosopher said:
So sad that nobody realises how obvious it is what Zion is doing. Using whites to fight its wars. Hahahaha. 100 years ago if you told people that situation, they would have worked it out immediately.
The trouble was back then they didn’t control the media.
As per the protocols, control of the media and ‘cinema houses’ was a vital part of the plan. Without Illusion, there can be no world domination.
The Philosopher said:
The Protocols even taking aside the world domination step by step plan, is a very interesting work of political philosophy questioning the nature of freedom, progress and the Master/Servant axis. It almost got me thinking it was erroneous to have eliminated aristocracy! Or at least, made it easier for a foreign bunch of bastards to replace our own bunch of bastards!!!!
Hahahaha. They really are smart people the Jews. Always have their eyes on the target and disintegrate lesser minds under the chains of sophistry and badfeelz.
The Philosopher said:
Reasons why France won’t catch up with Germany
1. Too many North Africans, Africans, Roma, and other low IQ, high crime, corrosion inducing people’s killing people’s inclination to have a welfare state.
2. France’s capital inequality is worse than Germany’s. France has more rentiers than Germany. An interesting factoid in Piketty’s book is that Lillian Bettencourt had the same geometric rate of return on her inheritance as Bill Gates did as Microsoft CEO of his fortune over a 20 year period. This also explains why Hollande got blackmailed doing left wing policies. French politics is very dirty and I expect more Fillon cuckold types to be put forth by l’aristocracie.
3. France suffers horribly from much greater spending on Israel’s wars, not just in terms of lost lives, crime and terrorism but diverted spending to contractors who in turn use the money to buy more war friendly politicians.
On the other hand
1. Germany under Merkel and open borders is a Jim Jones cult
2. Germany’s supply side cuckold economics are more institutionalised.
3. Germans don’t have ‘fight’ and will believe anything Zion says. The French are not stupid in that social way.
The economic reasons based on fertility above though are dopey.
chocolate babies? said:
africa’s tfr has made more brains and arms…
but has also made a greater “dependency ratio”.
that is, if you have 5+ kids you can’t save, you can’t invest in capital equipment.
as i’ve said before…
i do expect africa will develop to the level of various caribbean countries eventually, but only after it gets its tfr to replacement.
nigeria’s tfr was 5.7 in 2014 according to the world bank.
so its GDP will increase, no doubt, just as britain’s did in the 19th c.
none of us will live to see the day when nigeria and barbados are equally habitable places.
The Philosopher said:
I could be wrong, but Africa’s population exploded along with fertility (and more importantly child mortality rate declined) around the mid 60s. Since the 1980s, African growth has flatlined and even reversed in many nations, even with the commodity supercycle that lifted Latin America and others.
If Afro is making an argument on raw GDP then I’m wrong, France could supercede it. Particularly if they repeal the 35 hour week. But that’s like saying China is superior to Germany now. Who cares about overall GDP except globalists?
Afrosapiens said:
“If Afro is making an argument on raw GDP then I’m wrong, France could supercede it. Particularly if they repeal the 35 hour week. But that’s like saying China is superior to Germany now. Who cares about overall GDP except globalists?”
We went to this topic because someone said France was Germany’s rentboy in the EU. So I told that person that France was expected to surpass Germany in terms of GDP and population to become Europe’s number one power, not mentioning the military and diplomatic power which is already number one.
Afrosapiens said:
“africa’s tfr has made more brains and arms…”
Africa’s population growth has been led by a drop in mortality rather than a radical change in fertility. I think African must keep on increasing their numbers, the continent is still under-populated and has the ability to feed itself, except for some very dry country in the Sahel and the horn of Africa, the nutritional situation is better than in most of South Asia. A larger population will make a larger consumer market that will in turn attract diversified investment. The issue of Africa’s fertility is in fact an issue of Western far-right neurosis, they’d rather not follow a Chinese-type one child policy.
The Philosopher said:
France is not the no.1 diplomatic power in Europe. That is Germany.
Well Russia actually.
I consider Russia to be far more European than Turkey
Afrosapiens said:
“France is not the no.1 diplomatic power in Europe. That is Germany.”
No, France is in the UNO’s security council as a permanent member, she has large influence in Africa and the Middle East, it has the second largest network of diplomatic missions after the US, French bureaucrats are the most influential in the EU institutions and they are the most influential at the UNO. France is indiscutably Europe’s leading diplomatic power.
“Well Russia actually.”
Lol no, first Russia is an evil country, it has little respectability and prestige on the global scene. Secondly, its economy is far to weak to back its diplomatic pretentions, it’s nothing more than the great northern oil and gas emirate.
“I consider Russia to be far more European than Turkey”
They both don’t see themselves as European, Russians hate Europeans too much to be Europeans and the Turks are too Asiatic to be European.
The Philosopher said:
1. The UN is a joke.
2. Germany vetoed the banking union, Eurobonds, and fiscal loosening against France’s wishes. Germany contributes most to the bailouts and pulls strings accordingly with other countries domestic economic policys. Germany dictates the eurozone economic agenda. Germany is the largest eurozone exporter and creditor.
Well arguably Israel is Europe’s no.1 power via direct control of Britain and its brainwashing of whites and crippling of the German, Dutch, French and UK people’s under speech censorship laws that don’t allow people to say Zion runs everything.
But it’s not European either. In fact, the joke is Jews don’t consider themselves white. Notice how most civil rights leaders who are ‘white’ are jewish.
Voila, les directeurs de La Monde
Hubert Beuve-Méry (1944–1969)
Jacques Fauvet (1969–1981)
Claude Julien (1981–1982)
André Laurens (1982–1985)
André Fontaine (1985–1991)
Jacques Lesourne (1991–1994)
Jean-Marie Colombani (1994–2007)
Éric Fottorino (2007–2010)
Érik Izraelewicz (2011–2012)
Alain Frachon (2012–2013)
Natalie Nougayrède (2013–2014)
Jérôme Fenoglio (2014–….)
Il y a, au moins, trois ou quatre Zionistes ou personnes qui se sont marries avec Zionists.
Je pense, que vous trouverez les autres quotidiens montrent la meme chose.
The Philosopher said:
Again, ask yourself: Why don’t European newspapers point out how Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Libya, Eygpt, Iraq, Afghanistan,Somalia, Sudan, Turkey and Yemen are on the Saud/Zion enemies list.
You can’t have all those fucking countries have something happen to them over 40 years and not think there is a clear plan of attack.
ITS LEBENSRAUM!!
Heil Zioniste! ZION: Le Nouveau Ubermensche
chocolate babies? said:
worse than concern trolling.
why would the jews want to settle beyond the jordan?
they don’t.
The Philosopher said:
They are not settling, they’re pacifying.
Why would anyone start that many wars?
Mucheesegrater: They want more cheese graters.
chocolate babies? said:
the third round…