I was very pleased to see Trump and Obama strike a conciliatory tone this afternoon, with Trump calling Obama a good man, and saying he looks forward to seeking his council many, many times in the future.
Trump WORSHIPS Oprah so we know, deep down he’s a good person, and he will not want to undermine Oprah’s legacy, by destroying all the accomplishments of the man she was so instrumental in electing, but more importantly, Trump wants to unite the country, and what better way to do that, than by showing the first black President some respect.
Sadly, a lot of people were disgusted by thought of an Ivy League black man arrogantly strutting around the white house for 8 years, so perhaps Trump felt compelled to put Obama in his place by questioning his citizenship and admission to Ivy League schools, but now that Obama has been humbled, and Trump’s huge ego has been fed, he can admire Obama for his historic accomplishments.
However one of Obama’s goals was putting distance between America and the policy’s of Israel’s Likud party.
Not that Obama’s anti-Semitic. He loves the Jewish people, and so many of them love him and worked to elect him, but at the same time, Obama wanted to send a message to the World, especially the anti-Israel segment of the Arab world, that the U.S. is not Netanyahu’s puppet.
However Netanyahu hated Obama for this, and wants to convince Americans that Israel and the U.S. are two sides of the same coin, so he’s wasted no time in reaching out to Trump, calling him a friend, and Trump is being pressured to side completely with Israel against the Palestinians.
Meanwhile Trump’s beautiful and articulate daughter Ivanka is caught in the middle. On the one hand, her husband Jared Kushner is Jewish and like ambitious men of any race, he probably wants a powerful position in the Trump cabinet, and her children are half-Jewish so siding with Israel is in their ethnic genetic interests.
On the other hand, she loves her dad more than life itself, and doesn’t want him to be seen as a puppet the way George W. Bush was.
But, although Trump can be ignorant about some topics, he strikes me as far too shrewd to not understand Jewish politics, especially after spending decades in New York real-estate. He is loved by both pro-Israel extremists and anti-Semitic white nationalists and has pandered to both on more than one occasion.
Pumpkin Person 
Obama looks perturbed in that pic, while Trump appears to be pulling him inward. Notice Trump has the upper-hand.
Hahaha…I was noticing the body language too when I saw that picture. They both look uncomfortable.
I really enjoyed this body language analysis of their meeting:
http://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2016/11/nonverbal-communication-analysis-no_10.html
”I was very pleased to see Trump and Obama strike a conciliatory tone this afternoon, with Trump calling Obama a good man, and saying he looks forward to seeking his council many, many times in the future.”
Sometimes i asked to myself
why i follow this blog** why*
”Trump WORSHIPS Oprah so we know, deep down he’s a good person”
I don’t know him personally, yep. And he don’t appear to be a ”good person”, a good person with billions of $$ in the bank, if this creature exist, ”traditionally” make good things…
to do good things = = = good person.
If the Devil worships Op’rah…
so…
he will be a good metaphorical entity…
”and he will not want to undermine Oprah’s legacy”
Oprah legacy:
”by destroying all the accomplishments of the man she was so instrumental in electing, but more importantly, Trump wants to unite the country, and what better way to do that, then by showing the first black President some respect.”
aha.
”Sadly, a lot of people were disgusted by thought of an Ivy League black man arrogantly strutting around the white house for 8 years”
arrogantly …. ”Ivy League” black man.
Difficult not be ”politically incorrect” with you.
”he can admire Obama for his historic accomplishments.”
What Obama did*
”Not that Obama’s anti-Semitic. He loves the Jewish people, and so many of them love him and worked to elect him, but at the same time, Obama wanted to send a message to the World, especially the anti-Israel segment of the Arab world, that the U.S. is not Netanyahu’s puppet.”
You must invest a journalist carrer in Salon or any other nutspaper…
what do you think* hum*
”On the other hand, she loves her dad more than life itself”
Dramatic gossip, you are saying that Treblinka Trump have a incestuous relationship with their president-father**
”and doesn’t want him to be seen as a puppet the way George W. Bush was.”
Do you are Paparazzi Pumpkin*
Notice the difference between Kushner and Chelsea Clinton’s Jewish husband:
The guy is a gamma.
Kushner is a delta/beta i.e stand up guy.
That tells you a lot about the two respective families. Only Hilary would countenance a weasel like that going anywhere near her kin. Trump would have flattened him and seen through his semantic smokescreen in 2 minutes.
And lo, he seems to be using his marriage as a racket to get clinton foundation donors as well for his insider trading prop shop:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/chelsea-clinton-foundation-marc-husband-230859
Classic insincere, gamma face. I would put money on him having done fraud and insider trades at some point.
Gamma Definition with examples:
https://krauserpua.com/2012/12/08/thy-name-is-gamma/
Martin Shkreli is probably the best ever modern example of the gamma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli
Gammas are basically dorky guys who think they’re alpha with a conniving bent. Not just many Jews who are found in this stratum, many South Asian guys fall into this category, hence the analogy of Indians being the New Jews.
There are rarely any Jewish dudes who are alphas. Not even many betas, but a lot of gammas, basically a repulsive mutation of A&O.
Certain Jews reach the delta level, basically a beta with a disagreeable side, as most Jews are always adversarial with people around them. Not many Jews are real betas and rightly so, as they were evolved to be parasitic.
There are no Sigmas among Jews, this category mostly belongs to White dudes, perhaps a small handful of East Asian guys.
There are Jewish omegas, perhaps they are the most affable. High IQ omegas tend to be harmless.
I genuinely can’t understand why you have a fascination with Oprah. Did I miss the memo? Is it satirical?
If one has a genuine scientific interest in HBD (as opposed to those who just use HBD for political reasons) then Oprah is an incredibly interesting case study, because at various points in history, she was both the World’s richest black and arguably the World’s biggest brained black, AND she was arguably both the World’s most influential woman AND the World’s biggest brained woman. For someone like me, who is so obsessed with the correlations between IQ and Darwinian traits like money, power, brain size and race, the stars could not have lined up more perfectly. Also, I think I have certain autistic traits that cause me to crave SYMMETRY, and thus a narrative that lines up nice and neatly, and she was the one person in whom the extremes of various correlates matched beautifully.
Also, when I was a kid (I’m now in my 30s) Oprah was the first really famous black working in a field that required conventional intelligence. She talked for a living, while other famous blacks at the same time were just filling the stereotype of the dancing monkey (Michael Jackson) or playing sports or cracking jokes. Not to diminish the intelligence these other fields require, but Oprah exuded a certain dignity that blacks needed.
Lastly, Oprah having achieved so much success despite so many strikes against her (born poor, illegitimate, dark skinned black, female, abused, fat, not conventionally beautiful) really symbolized adaptive behavior in a concrete way and her huge head symbolized intelligence in a concrete way.
Are you sure she’s got a big head? It looks like a lot of hair to me.
that required conventional intelligence
I haven’t read your archives, but are you all in on the idea that there are different kinds of intelligence?
I haven’t read your archives, but are you all in on the idea that there are different kinds of intelligence?
I believe there are different parts of intelligence, not different kinds.
Ok, I’ve read the memo now.
You should watch the Color Purple. It was mostly dull, but Oprah’s scene toward the end where she leads a rebellion of the women against Glover’s abusive patriarch was stirring.
I think you’re thinking of Whoopi Goldberg who was also very good in The Color Purple. Oprah played the part of the sassy Miss Sophia:
When they were making Oprah’s costume, Oprah kept warning them she had a big ol head, but they insisted they had the biggest wigs imaginable. In the end two wigs had to be sewn together to fit Oprah’s colossal cranium.
Oprah colossal cranium…
Oh my.
I feel sorry for Obama. Trump is probably the most polar opposite politician you could get from Obama.
In fact, I hope most of Obama’s legislation stays, but the illegal amnesty exec orders need to be set on fire. And the trade deals should have acid thrown on them.
You never answered whether you think Obama is HBD aware.
Yes I think Obama is HBD aware.
That’s intriguing.
If I had to guess I would say he is aware but rationalises it with some Narrative Function trick. Much like Oprah must.
To admit the things you’ve fought for most your life are somewhat null and void is incredibly painful to the ego. I have to do something similar with a piece of knowledge I know. All of us do in various ways in fact if you are to believe Freud.
His ramblings about criminal justice are some of his most cretinous comments in light of our mutual suspicion he must be intelligent enough to suspect HBD. If he trots out the ‘black young men X times more likely to be arrested’ stat again or BLM guff, I’m going to send him this:
Do you see it?
It is Kinshasa, not Detroit.
1950s Detroit
The Kinshasa Problem is Western Civilisation’s greatest problem although I admire Obama and of course, you’ve convinced me on Oprah.
His ramblings about criminal justice are some of his most cretinous comments in light of our mutual suspicion he must be intelligent enough to suspect HBD.
I don’t think it takes much intelligence to suspect HBD. It’s so obvious, that it probably takes more intelligence to deny it. And more intelligent people go to university where they’re taught to unlearn so much of what seems like common sense, and when you combine that with the greater empathy of high IQ people, it’s no surprise so many are HBD deniers.
But Obama strikes me as not only being highly intelligent, but Spock-like objective too, and it’s the latter that gives him probable HBD awareness.
Ha, I agree with your statements on Obama. He’s not just smart, but kinda of nerdy. I think that allows him see to the Truth He Dare Not Speak.
Obama is unlike any black guy I’ve ever known. He seems more like a high caste Indian American than like an African American. I could picture him chatting about HBD with Razib Khan
“I could picture him chatting about HBD with Razib Kahn”
Lol no.
Obama is a high IQ introvert. That makes him very different from most black people. Even high IQ blacks tend to be extroverts.
Steve Hsu did meet with Obama once, and Dr. Hsu found him to be fairly intelligent (at least of his questions).
uhhhh…weird wording. You know what I mean…
Dr. Hsu looks and sounds autistic. He’s probably a savant at LEGO but sucks at driving. How are East Asians so bad at driving if they have a high spatial IQ?
Dr. Hsu looks and sounds autistic. He’s probably a savant at LEGO but sucks at driving.
Tone it down please. He could be reading. Constructive criticism is encouraged, but this is not the tone we need.
How are East Asians so bad at driving if they have a high spatial IQ?
Because driving is incredibly dangerous and East Asians are very low on risk taking and high on anxiety.
“At least in 1994, he wasn’t:”
Very clever, end the discussion by introduction of facts and stuff.
e asians are NOT bad at driving.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-there-a-stereotype-that-Asians-are-bad-drivers
” the greater empathy of high IQ people”
Is this settled fact? Do the lines overlay exactly?
peepee continues to prove she’s a sociopath.
adapt is exactly what trump NEVER did, throughout the entire election.
adapt is exactly what hillary DID, throughout the entire campaign.
morality is not an expedient peepee-path. it’s independent of circumstances. right and wrong do not depend on which way the wind blows.
valuing adaptation is the definition of amoral.
i’ve met a million of ’em.
they should all be shot.
if trump doesn’t follow through with his alt-right agenda…he’s dead…literally…count on it.
Define morality.
define beauty.
and define “HBD aware”?
given that HBD is 99% lies, one who is “aware” of it would be aware of this.
it’s odd how cockring claims that so few are aware of psychometrics and behavior genetics, and if only more were aware of their findings…
they’re aware. they’re aware that both of them are pseudosciences and that psychologists in general have low IQs. densen and flushton are great examples.
thank you santa claus
they’re aware. they’re aware that both of them are pseudosciences
Actually you consider psychometrics, at least as practiced by the college board, to be a useful science. In fact you have condemned colleges for not relying exclusively on test scores and once even stated that every smart person you’ve known had very high test scores, and stated that you were anti-HBD, not anti-testing.
and that psychologists in general have low IQs. densen and flushton are great examples.
Just because they didn’t know or care about reaction norms does not prove they weren’t very bright. So far we don’t know how much reaction norms will undermine behavioral genetics, and even if Jensen and Rushton are proven wrong, no human has been right about everything.
Although I did hear an audio interview of Jensen’s, and I must admit I was disappointed in how prole he sounded. On the other hand, Rushton came across as very sophisticated in person.
a more subtle mind sees the following also:
1. behavior genetics and psychometrics are for the most part the bailiwick of psychology professors. in the US the exception is ETS, GMAC, LSAC, etc. the wechsler and other soi-disant IQ tests are scams.
2. why are there any professors of psychology? who pays their salaries and why? the answer is there are departments of psychology, because there are students. why are there students? because most college students are too dumb to earn degrees in useful subjects, but a college degree of some kind has become a prerequisite to getting a halfway decent job in the US, which has basically no apprenticeships or vocational tracking.
SO THE WHOLE FIELD OF PSYCHOLOGY ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE THE SOCIETY IS FUCKED UP.
Psychology is a pseudoscience. Especially abnormal psychology. Too many variables. IQ is the most consistent thing in psychology, the thing liberals hate the most.
Jeffery, are you the one formerly known as Trumpocalypse? Is PP really a woman? Are all the commenters men? It seems the fans of this blog butt heads with the creator a lot, is that because of the moral relativism you mentioned?
The extreme male brain theory of autism http://www.cell.com/trends/cognitive-sciences/abstract/S1364-6613(02)01904-6
“The key mental domains in which sex differences have traditionally been studied are verbal and spatial abilities. In this article I suggest that two neglected dimensions for understanding human sex differences are ‘empathising’ and ‘systemising’. The male brain is a defined psychometrically as those individuals in whom systemising is significantly better than empathising, and the female brain is defined as the opposite cognitive profile. Using these definitions, autism can be considered as an extreme of the normal male profile. There is increasing psychological evidence for the extreme male brain theory of autism.”
Men tend to have blanket-policies regarding truth while women tend to be relative to the situation.
I never considered adaptation being a compromise of principles, but it appears you could have a point regarding Trump. He will have to adapt (aka compromise his promises/principles). I see what you mean by the definition of amoral, though I’m not sure adaptation is fully defined by compromising principles.
I got called a Marxist for being a moral relativist. Any regular commenter here knows how ridiculous that is.
I’ll answer your question about obesity later.
valuing adaptation is the definition of amoral.
Adaptation is independent of morality.
It just means you’re behaving in ways that advances your goals.
They can be good goals or bad goals.
And some goals are more difficult than others, thus requiring more adaptability.
“Adaptation is independent of morality.”
If you don’t keep your promises, is that an advantageous adaptation?
If we assume that cooperation is more evolutionarily advantageous, then it would seem like the answer is ‘no’.
Taking advantage of someone is punishable by law in some instances and as a society, we generally don’t see that as an advantageous behavior… though it may benefit the individual for a time if he doesn’t get caught.
So, maybe we can define morality as what benefits the group, as in, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Blanket-empathy regardless of variables.
Keep your promises, regardless of circumstances.
Share and don’t steal from your neighbor, regardless of circumstances.
and so on
But then we have the holodomor:
Survival was a moral as well as a physical struggle. A woman doctor wrote to a friend in June 1933 that she had not yet become a cannibal, but was “not sure that I shall not be one by the time my letter reaches you.” The good people died first. Those who refused to steal or to prostitute themselves died. Those who gave food to others died. Those who refused to eat corpses died. Those who refused to kill their fellow man died. Parents who resisted cannibalism died before their children did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
So, the most moral are the first to die. This is true in any group. The intelligent are runoff by the crass. What remains are the most deplorable (innuendo intended).
Those who adapted to theft, prostitution, cannibalism, were they the most intelligent?
If I had a group of animals in which one mysteriously decided to give its food to another animal, I would want to breed that one. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t you conclude that is the smartest one? In the holodomor, the smart ones died and the dumb, amoral ones lived. In this case, ability to survive is not correlated to intelligence. It would seem that intelligence needs to be coddled… nurtured.
Psychopathy is a handicap… a part of the brain that didn’t form. Sociopathy is environmentally induced lack of empathy, which is no less a handicap.
Just because you survive doesn’t necessarily mean you’re smart, even if said handicap gives you an edge.
The earth had been surprisingly calm throughout our evolutionary period and that relative comfort gave us the luxury needed to develop intelligence. We have intelligence because we didn’t have to adapt that much. The earth could have been much harsher on us and we likely would not be discussing this today if that were the case.
Sociopathy is just like emotional psychopathy. Sociopaths have higher levels of emotivity + lack of affective empathy, my opinion.
The problem is always the binnaric duality.
Or people are too good or too bad.
We are extremist by nature.
But i think if unusual selective processes may solve part of this BIG and universal problem.
Because people tend to marry with similar with them they tend to increase the intensity of this more-exclusive behavioral traits. This situation created selective atomizations where too much kind people marry one each other, or any other groups, and this factor will increasing the intensity of this traits, making ”every” generation ,if the selective pressure is strong, more and more kind, or bad, or whatever. all of them will walk to the dead ends. A dead ends is not only the path of extinction but also the path of evolutive hiatus, lack of self-improvement.
Morals ain’t quantifiable PP.
Nor intelligence…
partially quantifiable*
yes
perfectly quantifiable**
maybe, but it will be very difficult to do.
A set of ideational and actions define anti-personality spectrum
so
morality IS [partially] ”quantifiable”.
“If we assume that cooperation is more evolutionarily advantageous, then it would seem like the answer is ‘no’.”
Ability to utilize cooperation, not “cooperation” itself. Deceit and double-cross come with the package. It is just a matter of knowing when and how to use them to achieve your goals.
“Morals ain’t quantifiable PP.”
Morals are articulated justifications for our behavior.
“Morals are articulated justifications for our behavior.”
Exactly this. Dare I say… Post hoc judgements to justify actions we have already made and thoughts we currently have…?
Take the dictionary or wikipedia and stop to define for yourselves what morality is…
the fundamental question is
”how nasty with me or with other people who don’t deserve it, you can be***”
this is the golden rule for the good behavior.
Whatever you believe THIS is moral or not, it is undoubtely rationally and/or behaviorally correct, just like 2+2=4.
I hope none here will try to refute it, i hope.
morality as well racism is a word with a bigger meanings for different contexts, unfortunately, the disgrace of human-kind
why**
because almost of the abstract words are like that,
morality itself no have moral value in their concept.
Is the context that will give to the morality-word their applications and meanings.
morality is bigger, a broader AND vague concept as well the intensity of pressure is higher in little places than in bigger places… or communities.
abstractions are just like pieces of rock, a desintegrative nature.
The duty of the rational thinker is join this pieces to create a integrative understanding, emulating the physical and sensitively direct understanding of the material/tangible world.
“Morals are articulated justifications for our behavior.”
Exactly this. Dare I say… Post hoc judgements to justify actions we have already made and thoughts we currently have…?
Not to mention that we “cheat” in our self interest even when we say we are applying our moral code.
Obama disdains Israel secretly.
Its pretty obvious both his father being a muslim and growing up in Indonesia in a muslim society that he empathises a lot with the muslim community.
I suspect Trump is not a big fan of Zion either. If you look at how his long time butler thinks, his alt right companions and his stated opposition to neocon foreign policy (as a republican!!), its pretty obvious he’s anti-Zion.
He has to be careful and tow the line, even in private. They’ll have spies and of course republican subjects to monitor (and betray) Trump.
Until the media’s back is broken and the alt right takes over culture, he needs to play safe.
Trump built a multi-billion industry in a zero sum sector involving direct opposition to Manhattan Jews (probably the highest IQ people in the world). That is probably one of the single greatest business achievements of all time.
I’m not sure about the anti-zion thing. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/trump-wants-former-goldman-partner-and-soros-employee-serve-treasury-secretary
I believe it was Brother Nathaniel who said Trump has plenty of Jews on board. Unless it’s a ruse… Keep your enemies close, kinda thing.
Obama disdains Israel secretly.
Its pretty obvious both his father being a muslim and growing up in Indonesia in a muslim society that he empathises a lot with the muslim community.
I think that’s a reasonable assumption, though not everyone agrees:
I suspect Trump is not a big fan of Zion either. If you look at how his long time butler thinks, his alt right companions and his stated opposition to neocon foreign policy (as a republican!!), its pretty obvious he’s anti-Zion.
On the other hand his beloved daughter married an Orthodox Jew from a very pro-Israel family & he’s major part of Trump’s inner circle, and is the father of Trump’s grandkids.
Trump built a multi-billion industry in a zero sum sector involving direct opposition to Manhattan Jews (probably the highest IQ people in the world). That is probably one of the single greatest business achievements of all time.
Well what impresses me most about Trump is that in a country where Fitzgerald claimed there are no second acts, Trump’s been adaptable enough to reach the pinnacle of success in three different fields: real-estate, media, and now politics.
Yes he got a lot more help from his father than he’ll ever admit, but so have a lot of people, and they haven’t come close to his level and diversity of success.
At the very least, he has a high Theory of Mind IQ.
what trump is aware of is norms of reaction.
this can be seen in his comment about his brother fred in his Playboy interview.
in this way trump is more subtle than 99% of the HBD blogosphere, including steve shoe, but that’s not saying much.
it always surprises me how norms of reaction is simply beyond the ability of people to understand. charles murray doesn’t understand it, let alone cockring, jayman, or hbd chick, occidental dissent, etc. that steve shoe doesn’t understand it is a little surprising, but not that much. even my liberal parents agree that ne asians tend to be very good students, but very poor thinkers. even flynn has remarked on this. chinese americans perform academically at something like 20 points above what whites with the same IQ would do.
that steve shoe doesn’t understand it is a little surprising, but not that much.
I’ve showed you a youtube clip of him appearing to understand reaction norms. Just because he’s making genomic predictive models based on local environments doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand, but you have to start somewhere. If a genetic equation can predict IQ in early 21st century America, only then does he need to worry about other times and places. Let him to get to stage 1 first before you demand he go to stage 2.
even my liberal parents agree that ne asians tend to be very good students, but very poor thinkers. even flynn has remarked on this. chinese americans perform academically at something like 20 points above what whites with the same IQ would do.
East Asians are to school grades as Ashkenazi Jews are to money. Both groups punch way above their cognitive weight which in both cases is above average.
My theory on East Asians is that they are incapable of alienation for the most part. I think alienation from one’s fellow man on some level is what drives smart people to creative pursuits. Smart East Asians are “normies”. They don’t have the alienation gene. Perhaps, it’s their lower verbal intelligence. They lack subtlety. They are fundamentally pragmatic. Smart East Asians are doers. They take action; they don’t THINK.
”They take action; they don’t THINK.”
Wow, it’s not like that isn’t*
Less.
(you said it and i interpret in literal way, WELL, i interpret just what you wrote, period)
First, i don’t think they on avg have LOWER verbal intelligence. I think certain levels of creativity may enrich verbal intelligence, so called verbal creativity. Japaneses are, on avg or disproportionately speaking, outliers. I think they, continental east asians, have less proportion of unusual psycho-cognitive profiles that combine levels of mental dis-order with higher cognitive or intellectual skills.
Maybe we are talking about PSYCHOLOGICAL INTENSITY levels.
I have impression that many east asians are natural ”atheists” or at least ”untheists”.
Just compare the religious fanaticism in entire western history with, seems, ”soft” magical thinking (stupid superstitions) among them.
Why majority of atheists are [cognitively] smarter but not creative*
Less % of east asians are day-dreamers*
They tend to be less imaginative* introspective*
”They lack subtlety. They are fundamentally pragmatic”
Exactly, just like many atheists and also most of theists.
What strike me a lot about genius research…
They tend to have at the same time higher levels of mental dis-order (genius, like it or not, is a developmental ‘disorder’) and higher levels of mental order/health.
I’m quite curious to understand why japaneses seems, on avg, disproportionately creative and since the recent time, SEEMS, because their isolationist policy they have gone through creative hiatus.
Maybe the open doors, forced by Americans, and freedom to industrialize itself, what lacks in China as well ancient and rigid social system, may can have created recent eugenic selective pressures in Japan, resulting in the higher levels of creativity (creative ressurgence**) we have today and not exactly the relax in the social rules, a product of this genetic creative wave and not the cause.
in addition to the just world phenomenon there is another cognitive bias or cognitive limit for 99% of the population.
they mistake various institutions and ways of doing things in their particular society at a given point in time with natural phenomena.
this may be a bias which people “learn” as they grow up and are socialized. that is, these things may not be taken for granted by children as they are by adults.
so as david suzuki and soros have said, modern man is for the most part a herd without a shepherd. man has domesticated himself.
so how can the problem of norms of reaction be resolved? i have spoken of this before, but another way is if genomic prediction works irrespective of time and place. the genomes and life histories of lots of dead people are readily available. but the HBDers are a long long time away from genomic prediction which explains more than a tiny % of the variance, and what they have now has only been applied to very restricted populations.
at this point it’s clear there is no single IQ gene or even a single small set of IQ genes. so it’s either there aren’t any IQ genes at all or there are “many genes of small effect”, where many means a significant fraction of the entire genome. if it’s the latter the HBDers are basically NEVER going to be able to EXPLAIN why some are + and others -, it’s just way too complicated.
furthermore, HBD does NOT support conservative economic and welfare policies. it’s the EXACT opposite. all it does is support eugenics and an end to affirmative action based on race.
furthermore, HBD does NOT support conservative economic and welfare policies. it’s the EXACT opposite. all it does is support eugenics and an end to affirmative action based on race.
I think even assuming HBD is true, we’d still need affirmative action but the quota should then be based on the percentage of competent Americans who belong to each group, not the percentage of all Americans who belong to each group. Affirmative action is especially needed because of EGI, and it should apply to ALL racial/ethnic groups, including white gentiles.
…the quota should then be based on the percentage of competent Americans who belong to each group…
that’s the exact opposite of affirmative action in the US peepee, and SCOTUS has ruled that quotas are unconstitutional.
the beneficiaries of your version of AA would be white gentiles and some e asians. all other groups would do worse.
the more important form of preference should be preference for the poor over the rich when the two are otherwise equal on whatever the measures are. and this really is necessary, because the US is a very classist society, the exact opposite of what it claims. the main stream media’s incorrect characterization of trump’s base put this in neon lights.
I know it’s not how AA is currently practiced & most minorities would indeed be worse off in complex occupations, but they’d still be better off than they’d be with no affirmative action at all
I agree with class based AA also
“on the percentage of competent Americans”
Higher IQ individuals out-compete lower IQ individuals across all occupations, other conditions held equal. If you take a mixed bag of Americans and dump them out into our complex society, and hold the environment stable, the Ashkenazi and East Asians are going to shake out at the top, whites in the middle with Mestizos and Blacks bringing up the rear in proportion to their respective IQ bell curves.
Are we missing the correct % of Mestizos in the physics field? Are we going to implement a quota for Jews and limit them to 2-3% of finance, media, academia, etc.
“I think even assuming HBD is true, we’d still need affirmative action but the quota should then be based on the percentage of competent Americans who belong to each group, not the percentage of all Americans who belong to each group. Affirmative action is especially needed because of EGI, and it should apply to ALL racial/ethnic groups, including white gentiles.”
Does this look OK to you? This is a result of affirmative action. It should be abolished. Immediately.
Can we get an extended discussion of AA?
Do you intend to respond to RR’s AA chart on Med School AA?
Do you intend to respond to my question RE: limitation quotas for certain groups?
Are we in agreement as to what “competent Americans” mean?
Whatever it is, shouldn’t we consider that some will be “more competent?
AA should be abolished.
As Ron Unz said, merit only as much as possible.
This can include qualitative factors like leading a football team, setting up a small business (and even failing), volunteering etc.
Steve Hsu is a typical “smart” East Asian. He lacks subtlety. He’s an idiot. He’s also a racist. His racism isn’t of a smart type either. He’s racist in an autistic East Asian way. “Haha, your country is poor” kind of way. East Asians are materialistic and EVIL.
In YOUR OPINION, East Asians, are MORE LIKELY to be materialistic and evil, is what you meant. There are wonderful people in every race, religion and ethnic group, so please don’t overgeneralize.
East Asians are obedient strivers and petty materialists, which leads us to JV’s constant chime about East Asians and I fill in by saying they are lacking in higher reasoning, originality and creativity.
I don’t think [all**] of east asians are evil, sociopath or psychopath or any other ”rose”.
Otherwise. Yes, east asians are like overall white people in the 50’s.
I live with catholic people:
normies and medios are like that.
they are naturally morally ambiguous, with a diversity of good, avg and bad everyday attitudes. Most of east asians, what you said, are normies.
Catholic here, most of them, neurotypicals, normies and medios.
They are:
– materialistic (not greedy, not most of them),
– non-universally moral,
– normies, follow rules without substantial analysis and criticism,
– intellectually lazy and mediocre, believe in everything ”media” say,
– yes, they believe in christian nonsense too,
– uncreative, many times creativity is just repelent for them.
If [all of] east asians don’t think, can’t think, so i’m son of two poor thinkers ”east-asian”-leaning..
Are you of east asian heritage?
That would explain A LOT.
No.
I’m brazilian with portuguese heritage via paternal lineages, italian, african and amerindian via maternal lineages, and i suspect sephardic unknown ”blood”.
”That would explain A LOT.”
Why you hate me*
Be sincere here, tell me what do you think i’m, based on your version of reality**
Most white people are morons too btw and utterly boring. East Asians are boring. All the interest people are disappearing. They’re being bred out.
As time goes on –> diversity decreases. What kind of diversity? The one that matters the most – diversity in thought.
I don’t care how high Steve Hsu scores on an IQ test. ALL IT MEANS IS THAT IQ TESTS FAIL TO CAPTURE A KEY COMPONENT OF INTELLIGENCE. If that x component was included, East Asians would score lower than whites.
Maybe the X component isn’t part of intelligence at all, but as aspect of personality, like curiosity. JS has argued that East Asians are less curious on average.
Personality is the soul of the machine intelligence…
Thirty-eighth time I repeat that.
Do you are robot PP**
No there such thing ”intelligence and personality are mutually divorced”, because all the time they are interacting one each other and producing the behavior.
“Trump WORSHIPS Oprah so we know, deep down he’s a good person, and he will not want to undermine Oprah’s legacy, by destroying all the accomplishments of the man she was so instrumental in electing, but more importantly, Trump wants to unite the country, and what better way to do that, then by showing the first black President some respect.”
Is this a self-referential joke, or do you really believe that Trump is a good person because he claims to like Oprah?
Oprah’s show was all about pulling on heartstrings and sentimentality. And while cynics would dismiss it as cheap emotion, the fact that Oprah would appeal to Trump indicates he might have more affective empathy than meets the eye.
Steve Hsu is going to someday realise intelligence is maladaptive beyond a certain point. I’m not sure he realises it due to his quant lego set logic.
ON MORaLITY VS BEAUTY
Define morality: Master defines morality.
Define beauty: Visual stimuli, pattern and imagery which evokes positive feeling. White women are universally accepted as the best looking. Nobody disagrees that nature is a good photo essay competition subject, not sewage treatment plants. We even have certain metrics – facial symmetry, art auction pricing, fashion sales, beauty pageant winner data etc
Beauty is much less subjective than morality. Yes there are more abstract aesthetic tastes to be sure. And range. But less ‘made up’ if you will. You cannot engineer balck into white and force someone to believe it like you can turn Mr Psychopath into Mr Magic Negro.
You can build a model to predict what a random person of any race or creed will find beautiful, but not morality.
WHY EAST ASIANS LACK CREATIVITY
The glib answer is that it is because they are autistic.
That is not quite correct.
The clue lies in a walk around the City on lunch hour. Or the commute.
Notice how east asians of all races listen to music the least.
(Go on, what is it?)
Musical intelligence and interest is strongly correlated with creativity. For example, we know blacks have been pattern setters not just in music, fashion, comedy (although they lack affective empathy to be novelists, in general).
East Asians are quite adept in the classical genre.
Except they rote learn it, even though its a more complex musical genre than say, dubstep. That’s a good analogy for why they don’t win more Science Nobels.
Why are people with musical intelligence the best looking nerds?
Also David Bowie must have been rightwing. The clue is his lack of speech political matters in contrast to the vast majority of musicians of his generation. And his physiognomy and voice tenor…its snobbish.
We know what happens with conservative artists. Hollywood stars would rather avoid Mel Gibson’s purgatory. Clint at least dodges it somewhat by being a ‘libertarian’.
Happy to see Mel has smashed it out of the ballpark with his new film. What a talent. A great man. I hope he wins the oscar. But DIVERSITY = DEATH. So Rebirth of a Nation will likely get a nod for the rapist director.
In Zion world a rapist whose victim committed suicide gets to air his political views through film and a white man gets blacklisted for making a movie about Christianity.
The ALT RIGHT WAS A LONG TIME COMING. WE WILL DESTROY ZION.
But first the cucky wucky.
Morality is only fake-subjective in the same way Jesus Christ or Mohammed still there = = = stupidty.
So nonexistent?
I will leave your lack of intelligence alone thinking if is it….
“Believe in something you can’t see and something not empirically verifiable. You show a lack of intelligence due to that.” Makes sense.
“Steve Hsu is going to someday realise intelligence is maladaptive beyond a certain point. I’m not sure he realises it due to his quant lego set logic.”
I agree. There has to be an upper limit. I think these high IQ beings that are imagined would turn on us in a second, the same with AI.
“I think these high IQ beings that are imagined would turn on us in a second”
You don’t have to wait for it to happen.
Haha true dat iffen. True dat.
You can’t see the difference?
Look closer.
HBD is real.
Just because our best mathematicians in 2016 can’t link genes directly to IQ doesn’t mean you can’t infer it from IQ testing, academic achievement, intellectual output and of course, workplace performance (shudder).
HBD was never about just IQ.
I would argue its more about testosterone levels, personality/physiognomy, neurospectrum, susceptibility to various disease/medical conditions, clan v trust and so on.
Those things we can measure direct causal links.
The greatest test of HBD is to set up a business or in investment.
How will you choose for your employees? What fund manager? Will you appoint a South Asian to head McKinsey or Deutsche? – or a reliable white man? Hahaha.
Micro. Macro. Micro. Macro. Zoom in. Zoom out. Zoom in. Zoom out. Stop looking at the detail in the tree bark. Look at the movement of the leaves in the wind.
JS is right about South Asians. I didn’t realise it until now.
Gamma is:
Feminine brain + IQ (often correlated in general)
Now, I don’t think South Asians are as gamma as Jews. I’ve never been to India so I’ll hold off on generalising. In my experience in London all the South Asians I met were gamma, but that maybe simply talented tenth.
Gammas would solve all their problems by hitting the gym. Then their masculine desire for respect, admiration and pride can be met without scheming and backstabbing.
Gammas have this look that make them “Gamma”. It’s in the genes I tell you. Their scheming nature is often detected in their face, if one bothers to observe.
When I first saw Martin Shkreli in the news, I assumed he was a Jew, because he looked like one. Essentially, a gamma.
Gammas have a dorky aura, less so than beta nerds, yet with a bad attitude who do bad things.
One could say the late Steve Jobs was treading into “gamma” territory. But his success with Apple and the positive contributions he made into the company made him less so, treading into Sigma/Alpha territory.
Bill Gates is a beta.
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/
The necon bullshit is getting really really old.
NEVERENDING WAR FOR IS_RAE:L LEBENSRAUM!
LEBENSRAUM!
LEBENSRAUM!
ZIE MUSLIME RATTEN!!!
GENTILE, SEND YOUR MEN AND SONS TO FIGHT FOR US
WE WARP YOUR NARRATIVE FUNCTION. WE HAVE SEEDED YOUR MORALITY SINCE YOUR FIRST HARPER LEE MORALITY PLAY. WE CONTROL YOU TRIGGERS. WE WELL PREDICT YOUR THOUGHTS>IN TIME WE WILL REPLACE YOU.
“DON’T TEL THEM ABOUT MY LOVE FOR CHILDREN BIBI. OH BIBI, I NEED MORE MONEY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOLING FOR MY CHILDREN. BIBI WE WORSHIP YOU”
Truest thing ever said on this blog. (other than me saying that evolution ain’t progressive)
Speaking of obsessions.
Not an obsession. Just a big area of interest to me.
Many White proles are stupid, hence there is a reason why they join the armed forces and police state.
Israel is a sh*thole. I really don’t care if they are hypocrites or what not. America just needs to stop sending them aid.
https://www.quora.com/For-those-with-an-IQ-over-133-what-kind-of-music-do-you-listen-to
LOL
why 133**
133 is the new 130!!
https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12208552_1522189988096556_1498343655480949358_n.jpg?oh=b72b09b6f894d9ef4227080713dc2548&oe=58C37232
I hate this may may. I hate may mays in general. I wonder if the people who use the term meme know where it comes from or who coined it. I doubt it.
Hey, anyone see E! Online’s special with Oprah’s brother, Randall?
Randall, once again, barraged us new juicy revelations that Oprah never mentions in her show because she keeps all the good stuff for her monthly PPV specials.
Did you know Randy had a very respectable amateur career in boxing? He mentioned Oprah would turn up to the fights with her various lovers at the time (often simultaneously!) to support him, and thought about a career in boxing herself.
Or another time, at bandcamp, when oprah showed her tenacity to win first tuba by practicing beside the lake until dawn but was attacked by second tuba.
I loved his stories about Oprah’s family. Apparently according to Mr McOprah, Oprah’s ancestry can be traced back to a long line of Nubian royalty who were prime movers and shakers in the New Kingdom. I was so astonished to be honest, as Oprah never brings up her family’s contribution to ancient civilisation anywhere. Like its an embarrassment or something.
He did provide photographic evidence though:
Notice how the ancestor looks exactly like Oprah, with large head and whiskers to boot. It is frankly uncanny how genes perpetuate so long.
Finally Randall talked about politics and his take on Trump, Obama and so on. Not surprisingly Mr McOprah felt Obama could have done more to give more money to the inner cities and denounced Mr Trump for “sexualising politics”. Apparently Randall, who is a registered republican, is in exploratory talks with producer Leiv Fisher Warburg Katzenberg to create a republican centre right talk show involving bible study sessions, Middle Eastern geopolitics, and “exploring ways to help small business entrepreneurship like cutting CFTC derivative margin OTC requirements and the customer interest first fiduciary rule which has decimated our small business community in towns all across America”.
I can’t wait to hear this man speak.
LOL, what the fuck?
I want people to take my (sorta) pro-Trump comments in light of the fact I voted for Obama twice. Well, maybe I didn’t vote for him the 2nd time, but I supported him. I think Obama was actually a decent president, despite disagreeing with him on many things.
Worst “President” we’ve ever had.
Why do you think you have to put President in quotes? There is no confusion about whether he was President or not. There is no ambiguity in the facts.
I don’t believe the “President” has any real power. He’s just a puppet.
Why is that comment moderated pp?
“He’s just a puppet.”
Yes, I see now, we can’t have puppet masters unless we have puppets.
If, instead of strings, the puppet had inflexible wires, could you tell which was controlling which?
no! by far the worst president ever was lincoln.
600-800k dead. for what? “to save the union.”
the man was pure evil.
I wish Trump would make Obama Secretary of State
You’re out of your mind.
Trump will put in pro-Goldman Sachs Jews into his cabinet. He’s already started.
Never mind inserting his Jewish family onto his cabinet. Get ready for the same old shit, America.
” spread conspiracy theories about”
Nobody needs any help spreading conspiracy theories. They are like mushrooms in springtime; they are a gift from the Gods.
“Trump WORSHIPS Oprah so we know, deep down he’s a good person,”
Lmao how did that logic arise?
Does pp know basic logic?
PP did you take a logic class in High-school? Do you really believe that arguments are opinions?
Did you take a logic class I’m college ***
I used to think the same thing about arguments as you did. But if the premises are true and the conclusion is sound then it’s a valid argument.
Well, you confuse opinion and value judgements with facts, so let’s not get too carried away.
I know basic logic. I know basic argumentation.
Peepee says he did bad in school and almost failed university. Why?
My obsessions caused me to waste all my time on the internet instead of doing my school work.
Obsession with what? IQ?
Very interesting.. I’ve gone through the same thing my entire life.. But I have this fear of failure that make me try just enough to be able to keep up with the Joneses. The fear of death!
Have you ever been assessed for ASD? You possess a guilelessness that I almost never see in non-autistic people. It’s a wonderful trait, in my opinion, but it does make me wonder about you (along with some other things, such as your obsessive nature).
You seem more autistic than I am—well, based on this blog, at least—and I am officially diagnosed with ASD. Perhaps this is because the brains of autistic women are similar to the ones of neurotypical men*, while autistic men are (dubiously) thought to have “extreme male brains.” Regardless, I’m interested in knowing if you’ve ever pursed an official diagnosis.
(* Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/autism-it-s-different-in-girls/)
No. I was assessed as a kid (I’m now in my thirties) but back in those days, people were much less autism aware. The school board psych experts did write that my drawings showed signs of anxiety, unexpressed anger, and obsessive-compulsive traits, and obsessions are a defining trait of autism. But the psycho-ed consultant also told me I had the type of personality that would never have a problem with friends, so that part is inconsistent with autism.
As for guilessness, I have had people buy me drinks at bars because they claimed I’m the most genuine person they’ve ever met, and that’s certainly an autistic trait, but the diagnosed autistics I’ve known have had a brutal honesty that can be quite off-putting.
I don’t think we know much about autism because the ones who are diagnosed, are by definition the ones who can’t function in this society. People like Bill Gates would never be diagnosed as autistic by DSM criteria, even though people observing his behavior recognize autistic traits. Perhaps this is an example of Mugabe’s reaction norms; where the same biology can be high functioning or low functioning depending on the socio-cultural context. Perhaps Gates has an identical twin in Romania rocking and flapping in an institution 🙂
**pursued
Its a spectrum, not a point. Normies look autistic to me as well.
If psychiatry was dominated by schiz, instead of A leaning guys, ‘normal’ would just be diagnosed in the DSM IV as wearing a jumper and rain jacket everywhere.
I always relate my insights on Autism to my PhD Engineering friend. He can’t lie. Is very loyal. Doesn’t queston media. Assumes everyone is a nice person like himself. Likes animals. Selfless. His brother is full on – and like you say with Bill Gates, flapping his arms in a care home.
Baron Cohen Eindhoven study. Engineers create autistic children. Its genetic.
People say autism is the extreme male brain. When the autistic personality is clearly feminine. Pliant. To be ruled. Avoids violence like a mothfutcher.
Niceness = docileness.
We all like nice people. Cos they ain’t a threat. Or a threat to the pussy/money/power pool.
Yet another nail in the coffin about why morality is a delusion. Morality for most people is a derivative of being an autistic Forest Gump.
If a person is retarded in the sense he has no guile. Then are his acts truly good?
Now you know why people whoop and cheer and cry when a black person does anything good. He had to really change his behaviour to do it. It took willpower.
It was a real choice of ‘free will’.
“OHH MARCUS YOU DIDNT RAPE THAT TEACHER. OHHH WELL DONE. WELL DONE. YOURE A GOOD BOY”
“I always relate my insights on Autism to my PhD Engineering friend. He can’t lie. Is very loyal. Doesn’t queston media. Assumes everyone is a nice person like himself. Likes animals. Selfless. His brother is full on – and like you say with Bill Gates, flapping his arms in a care home.”
Pumpkin Person fits this criteria.
^^^^ I have no idea how anyone can be like that.
it’s not that “morality” is an illusion, it’s that what you’ve been told is right or wrong may not be…or is a herd morality or slave morality.
part of being a good person is deciding for oneself what is right and what is wrong. 99% of people are evil in that they literally cannot distinguish between what is socially acceptable/unacceptable and what is right/wrong. the result is things like the great purge, the holocaust, political correctness, wall street fraud, etc.. 99% percent of people are sheep. perhaps they should be treated with no more respect than is due a sheep.
Most of the “sheep” are considered heroes. They would look down upon you and call you a loser for not having achieved great monetary success.
That’s actually a part of what drives me. I can’t let myself fall behind them. I won’t settle for being a loser in their eyes. It would be humiliating. My philosophy is be a cynic but only when you can afford it. I’ll play the social game and win but I won’t pretend that winning means anything.
You’re all delusional and out of your minds.
The real star of the McOprah family is Randall.
Oprah stole his underground talk show Taddler’s Ring secrets.
When oprah was knitting socks and reading books in stolen cars, Randall was mixing it on the underground chat circuit with Fats Weschler, Charlie ‘Chatermouth’ Chongo and Stan Lebowsky.
“Trump WORSHIPS Oprah so we know, deep down he’s a good person”
Does. Not. Compute.
” and he will not want to undermine Oprah’s legacy, by destroying all the accomplishments of the man she was so instrumental in electing”
Huh? Trump CLAIMS he’s going to get rid of all of the TRASH that Obama has passed these past 8 grueling years. I hope he does; screw Oprah’s ‘legacy’ for getting Obama elected. Worst thing ever for this country.
“so perhaps Trump felt compelled to put Obama in his place by questioning his citizenship and admission to Ivy League schools”
Forensic analysis of his “BC” show it to be forged. Trump had every right to poke and prod to get the truth out. Should he not because he’s black and Oprah “got him into the WH”?
“Obama wanted to send a message to the World, especially the anti-Israel segment of the Arab world, that the U.S. is not Netanyahu’s puppet.”
He still signed off on giving Israel BILLIONS of US TAX-PAYER DOLLARS. Don’t worry PP, Trump will restore our relationship with Israel, “our greatest ally” (Trump’s words)!!!
“On the one hand, her husband Jared Kushner is Jewish and like ambitious men of any race, he probably wants a powerful position in the Trump cabinet, and her children are half-Jewish so siding with Israel is in their ethnic genetic interests.”
Damn right.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/11/08/donald-trump-and-ethnic-genetic-interests/
Obama was a garbage “President”; worst ever. If Trump abolishes Obama(don’t)care, I’ll be ecstatic but I won’t hold my breath.
ACA was a terrible plan, full of lies and special interests involved, but, going Scott Adams-esque here, thats how the table is set in the 2D world. In the 3D universe where persuasion matters, Obamacare is meant to put America towards universal healthcare.
Btw, do you know who is a supporter of universal healthcare? The president-elect of the United States.
RR, is there a forum-type place that you participate in? I’d like to comment on many things said, but having a conversation here is like running with my feet tied. I guess my IQ is either so low that I can’t adapt or so high that I feel I shouldn’t have to be handicapped in lieu of better platforms. Probably the former 🙂
Huh? Trump CLAIMS he’s going to get rid of all of the TRASH that Obama has passed these past 8 grueling years.
Actually it’s been reported that he plans on keeping crucial aspects of Obamacare.
I hope he does; screw Oprah’s ‘legacy’ for getting Obama elected. Worst thing ever for this country.
Obama’s Iran nuclear deal arguably saved the World from WWIII.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
Well looks like he’s a ******** liar. Ugh. Why did I trust him anyway?
“it’s been reported that he plans on keeping crucial aspects of Obamacare.”
One can be optimistic. The politics of healthcare and everything else has flipped. Before, and if Clinton had been elected, the Republicans would have blocked every improvement so as to prevent the Democrats for receiving any credit for an accomplishment. With complete Republican control, they will receive credit (or blame) for any policy changes; this will make all the difference in the world. Only one strand of the Republican Party is adamantly opposed to the use of government for the betterment of the populace, there are, in fact, some who would like to improve economic and social life for the citizens.
When I found out yesterday that Trump intends to keep parts of Obamacare, my respect for him went up substantially.
Philosophical logic question –
If you don’t worship Oprah.
Does that make you a bad/ungood person?
But if you worship Randall, the real genius in the McOprah family, does that make me a really good person?
The cult of McOprah dates back 3000 years.
Peepee is weak in verbal logic but strong at math.
Oprah’s show was famous for making viewers cry just as Johnny Carson’s show was famous for making viewers laugh.
If you worship Carson, you likely have a sense of humour, but that doesn’t mean Carson haters are humourless.
If you worship Oprah, it likely means you have a good heart, but that doesn’t mean Oprah haters are heartless.
Well all we know for sure is that Randall haters are definitely heartless.
That rain jacket…..indoors….possibly an PhD in Engineering.
Yes, but she made people cry about things that should be cause for celebration, like illegals getting sent home.
Didn’t she realize with her colossal cranium that illegals are thieves at best, and at worst, a threat to her viewers’ way of life?
oprah straightens her hair. so does her bff.
that’s almost as bad as tattoos. does either have tattoos?
totally un-Cynical. is oprah as smart as Diogenes?
no!
she makes her hair look like white people hair. does she wear make-up or jewelry too?
A good way to figure out Oprah’s IQ is reading her book.
Have you read ‘What I know for Sure?’
no greater than 120.
she should never have changed. AND wipe off that make-up girlfriend!
Her verbal IQ is probably around 120. Her spatial IQ may be much lower. One thing I know is that Bill Maher has a profound vocabulary. He attended Cornell so probably had a high SAT score.
Her verbal IQ is probably around 120.
It would be pretty unlikely that someone with a verbal IQ of “only” 120 could so completely dominate a field as competitive and improvisational as TV talk shows for 25 straight years. It’d be about as likely as becoming the World’s most successful basketball player with a height of “only” six feet.
Further, it’s obvious just from listening to her talk that she expresses herself extremely well:
Trump said Oprah was “brilliant” but then he was raised to admire “winners”
Muhammed Ali was very articulate and verbally adept but had a low IQ score as tested by the army.
My hunch is that social intelligence and jibber jabber is not related to verbal intelligence.
Verbal tests working with concepts and attaching images and ideas to each other. I liken it to working with liquid.
Being charismatic has probably to do with testosterone, low pre frontal cortex regulation of speech and maybe some other R selected traits I’m not aware of.
I doubt Ali had the verbal skills to host a TV talk show for an hour a day, five days a week, year after year.
His show would have got huge ratings for the first week, and then his act would have probably got old because I’m not sure he had enough range & his ignorance on a wide range of topics would have slowly turned viewers off.
There have been many, many colorful personalities that have come and gone in the talk show business.
That’s a fair point.
I’m aware Howard Stern, Larry King, and David Letterman are smart guys. Its pretty speculative talking about talk show hosting like this though.
harvard grad michel mcqueen martin has never pretended to have anything other than cabelo ruim.
trump is described as a liar, but not as dishonest or untrustworthy.
trump never pretended to be someone he wasn’t…even though he lied and pretended to by pro-israel (he doesn’t care), pro-gun (he couldn’t care less), etc.
there’s a difference between being truthful and being authentic.
trump was authentic. very few politicians are, and hillary wasn’t an exception. an interesting thing is that people who are inauthentic for long enough lose the ability to be authentic, to be who they really are…because there is no “who they really are” left. they become nothing but a puppet of their own ambition.
…pretended to be…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3849596/A-pill-cure-autism-Study-identifies-defect-sufferers-cells-treated-existing-medication.html
A pill to cure autism? Study identifies defect in sufferers’ cells – that could be treated by existing medication
Half autism cases stem from a genetic disorder called TSC
Scientists at Boston Children’s Hospital found a defect that causes TSC
The defect prevents cells from recycling their dead or dying mitochondria
There are already two classes of medication that treat this defect
Scientists have discovered a defect in the cells of autism sufferers – and there are already two approved medications to combat it.
In 50 per cent of cases, autism stems from a genetic disorder called tuberous sclerosis complex (TSC).
Despite years of studies geared towards targeting TSC, it remains incurable.
However, new research by the Boston Children’s Hospital suggests this condition could be caused by a defect in the way cells recycle their mitochondria (the cell’s ‘battery’).
The scientists further showed that two existing classes of drugs counter the defect: the epilepsy drug carbamazepine, and drugs known as mTOR inhibitors.
When treated, the dysfunctional neurons were able to clear damaged mitochondria and replenish healthy mitochondria, restoring a normal turnover.
The scientists believe the study, published by Cell Reports, open new treatment possibilities not just for TSC, but for other forms of autism and neurologic disorders.
‘Our findings point to possible treatments for enhancing mitophagy for some neurodevelopmental and neurodegenerative diseases,’ says lead researcher Dr Mustafa Sahin, director of the Translational Neuroscience Center at Boston Children’s Hospital.
Mitochondria constantly get recycled.
Through a process known as autophagy (‘self-eating’), cells digest their damaged or aging mitochondria, clearing the way for healthy replacements.
It was research into this procedure – autophagy – that earned a Nobel Prize this year.
But as Dr Sahin showed with co-first authors Dr Darius Ebrahimi-Fakhari and medical student Afshin Saffari, autophagy does not happen as it should do in many autism sufferers.
It is not the first time scientists have analyzed autophagy in patients with neurological diseases.
Research has shown issues with autophagy in people with Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s disease.
But this is the first study that connects autism sufferers to the same defect.
Dr Sahin said it has taken this long to reach this point because the autism population is diverse and hard to define.
‘We decided to use tuberous sclerosis, a genetically defined disorder that has a high incidence of autism, as a model to understand the role of mitochondrial dynamics,’ Dr Sahin explained.
To reach their conclusion, the team studied rat neurons and patient-derived neurons affected by TSC.
They then used live-cell imaging to examine the mitochondria.
They found that the TSC neurons as a whole had more mitochondria – even fragmented and dysfunctional mitochondria that should have been recycled.
The researchers were able to restore normal mitophagy and replenish functioning mitochondria – in both neurons in a dish and in live mice.
They did this surgically – by inserting a healthy version of mutated genes.
But they also used rapamycin (an mTOR inhibitor) and carbamazepine (anti-seizure medication).
Both had the same effect.
The team said more work is needed to study the interaction between these medications and TSC to see how it could be used on a broader scale.
‘Our work defines mitochondrial homeostasis as a therapeutic target for TSC, and may also have implications for other neurological diseases that involve mitochondrial dysfunction,’ Dr Ebrahimi-Fakhari said.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3849596/A-pill-cure-autism-Study-identifies-defect-sufferers-cells-treated-existing-medication.html#ixzz4NYa0BNY6
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Pumpkin, I have a random question that you’ve touched on before:
What’s the likelihood that a person (anyone, but I’m currently thinking of Oprah) has a gap of more than 20 points between their spatial and verbal IQ scores?
In the WAIS-IV, about 6.8% of the U.S. population differed by 20+ points between the verbal comprehension IQ and the perceptual reasoning IQ. About 0.2% differed by 40 points.
Interesting. Thanks.
tonight’s open to Saturday Night Live was intentionally unfunny…the mask came off.
these people really have no idea how they look.
it was the lesbian cast member dressed in her hillary costume singing leonard cohen’s Hallelujah. leonard cohen was not only a jew, he was a canadian and semi-observant of judaism. yet nationalism is a sin.
you can’t make this shit up.
another thing the trump election proves is how a certain lack of social intelligence is required to get to the top in the US, and given this how a supposed lack of such intelligence is used in a 100% ideological manner to “explain”/”justify” why so many high IQ people don’t get to the top.
I had a look.
That’s possibly the most corny thing I’ve ever seen.
I think what really kills it is dressing like Hillary who even SJW liberals dislike.
I think the way Systema works is that the ruling caste (Zion) picks sub socially intelligent people to be in the outer party. These people will be messengers, evangelists and priests in effect. These people are nowhere near the top.
The cuckold class comes under Zion. These are the Paul Ryan sellouts, race traitors and craven opportunists. Like Hillary, psychopath leaning. Reptilian.
I imagine most cardinals/popes throughout history are aware Jesus didn’t exist as per the Bible.
given cohen’s own nationalism…
so far as this song is affective, it should be affactive to the trump supporter…
NOT how it was intended.