In honor of Labor Day, I wanted to write a quick post on Marxism. I’m not anti-Marxist; in fact I’ve endorsed ONLY Marxists for President of the United States on this blog (Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein), and given the U.S. Supreme Court’s ridiculous Citizen’s United ruling, the U.S. needs Marxists now more than ever. But even though Marxists probably tend to be quite smart given the correlation between IQ and liberalism and the difficulty of reading Marx, there are two ways in which Marxists seem clueless.
Marxists assume that enormous economic inequality is in and of itself, proof that the market is rigged. This ignores the fact that there is enormous inequality in human productivity. For example, a member of Prometheus brilliantly noted that because the human mind operates in parallel, complex learning and problem solving speed doubles every 5 or 10 IQ points. What that means is that is that in complex jobs, we should expect an IQ 170 to be up to 15,625 times more productive than an IQ 100. Further, if the IQ 170 is ten times more motivated than the IQ 100, he becomes perhaps 156,250 times more productive than the IQ 100.
The other factor that Marxists don’t seem to get is the role of technology in creating enormous inequality. In the distant past, a writer would take years to write only one book, which would severely diminish his productivity, but with the advent of the printing press, writers can produce MILLIONS of copies of their books. So you have this huge divide between those whose work can be multiplied a million fold by technology, and those whose work can only be done once per unit of effort. This divide seems most unfair when we compare dumb athletes making millions entertaining sports fans to brilliant doctors who make only six figures saving lives.
But what people don’t get is that a brilliant doctor, will save maybe five lives a year, while thanks to television, the dumb athlete is entertaining TENS OF MILLIONS of people a year: a trivial service multiplied by tens of millions is indeed worth more than a valuable service for only five people. So in a very objective sense, the dumb athlete deserves more money than the brilliant doctor.
When you combine the fact that complex problem solving speed doubles every 5 -10 IQ points, and then gets multiplied by differences in motivation and the use of technologies like the printing press, we should expect unbelievably large differences in wealth and income between the rich and the poor, even if everyone were playing fair (which they’re not). Yes the system is rigged, but mere inequality doesn’t prove anything; a truly fair system might result in even more inequality!
But at the same time, the athlete did not invent the television and the writer did not invent the printing press, nor does he enforce the arbitrary intellectual property laws that allow him to monopolize all the profits from reprints of his work. All success is the product of both the individual and the society in which he lives, which is why I don’t object to a 50% tax rate for all who can afford it. In theory I would even support a 50% tax rate on investment income, but that’s stupid because the government actually collects more tax dollars when they keep the capital gains tax low because more rich people then invest.
I also support a 50% inheritance tax. Some object to this because they’ve already been taxed 50% on their income, so everything they have left at death should be tax free. However I don’t see the inheritance tax as a tax on the dead, I see it as a tax on the person who inherits the money. If the tax rate on earning a million dollars in 2016 is for example 50%, why should the person who didn’t even earn his million in 2016, but was given it because his father died, be spared that 50% tax rate?
What should be done with all those tax dollars? Above all, I support Charles Murray’s idea of a negative tax for the relatively poor that would replace the welfare state and income transfer programs like social security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare etc, (though a certain percent would have to be earmarked for health costs as Murray was reluctantly pursuaded).
I do NOT support a minimum wage. If a consenting adult is willing to work for less than a penny an hour, the government has no right to prevent it. A minimum wage unfairly places the burden of helping the poor on job creators, rather than distributing it equally among all tax payers, and with a negative tax for the relatively poor, it becomes redundant.
It also destroys jobs. Cashiers are being replaced by automated checkout machines and McDonalds has introduced automated ordering machines, though they say the new gourmet burger you can order on them create new jobs for chefs.
In an ideal world there would be no income or estate tax. Just a national sales tax. And ridiculously high taxes on frivolities.
But we don’t live in an ideal world.
Embrace your salvation:
that’s a regressive tax.
the poor would pay a HIGHER % of their income in taxes than the rich.
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fucktard.
NS doesn’t have to be flat…does it?
It wouldn’t happen either way. ’til then I want the “Nordic model” and partition.
this is a tax proposal of mine.
you are peepee are you not?
when i leave, you imitate me. because i am your blog.
the problem is making the luxury taxes result in a progressive tax rate.
for example, there would have to be truly punitive taxes on the purchase of…
politicians.
and lower taxes on cheap food than on expensive food.
it could work, but it would require a lot of software.
you are peepee are you not?
when i leave, you imitate me. because i am your blog.
No he’s not me, and when you leave, long-time lurkers feel safe to post. It reminds me of how after the big dumb dinosaurs went extinct, there was a flourishing of newer, better life.
Sadly, the dinosaur is back.
has PP banned or put Santoculto on moderation?
He was picking less humorous fights with just about everyone recently.
No I did not ban him. He’s suddenly decided to stop posting. He’s always been very critical of me, but he seems to really really hate Milo with a passion. Perhaps its self-hatred because Santo and Milo are both self-described autistics. However I feel Santo is more at the schizophrenic end of the scale, so his hatred of Milo might be because they have opposite r/K genes struggling for Darwinian survival.
I had trouble figuring out what Santo was all about- perhaps due to the language barrier.
It does seem although not a full blown ‘White Nationalist’ he definitely sympathized with them.
now peepee is quoting ayn rand.
as if she doesn’t know that rand is already out as a sociopath.
and a kike.
she smoked like a chimney and dedicated one of her books to her husband and her lover.
and i actually bought a book on rand qua “serious” philosopher by professors of philosophy…and i READ it.
and she’s a joke.
rand is NOT a philosopher.
she was in love with the idea of being a philosopher but was simply too retarded to actually THINK.
typical self-professed randian fucktard:

she was in love with the idea of being a philosopher but was simply too retarded to actually THINK.
In other words she was above your head
peepee has mutliple personalities.
in reality she’s a 350lb half chinese half black lesbian.
in her mind she’s a white man.
in reality she’s a 350lb half chinese half black lesbian.
You should be a comedian.
For five-year-olds.
yeah that right peepee.
ayn rand is “above my head”.
“The other factor that Marxists don’t seem to get is the role of technology in creating enormous inequality.”
I can tell you’ve never read Marx.
If there’s anything to take away from him it’s the observation that the history of technology is the history of human societies.
Marxists don’t understand their own eponymous ideology?
“Marxists don’t understand their own eponymous ideology” – quoth PP who has yet to discover books.
quoth PP who has yet to discover books
I don’t think I need to read marx to know he believed that wealth inequality is primarily about exploitation of the poor. I’m arguing it’s primarily about individual differences in ability and motivation, multiplied by technology. That sounds different from what Marx reportedly said, but maybe he was more nuanced than I thought.
indeed.
whenever one suggests peepee read a book, she says she doesn’t have time.
she’s too busy watchig the oprah channel and stealing…stealing is hard work.
but she’s got plenty of time to make long, meaningless, un-informed blog posts.
stealing is hard work.
You’re the one who endorses stealing. To deny others the money they’ve earned in a voluntary democratic trading of goods and services for cash, is theft.
To presume yourself more worthy of knowing someone’s worth than the collective decision of the market, is the height of arrogance.
Not when the money has not been earned, and the exchange is not totally voluntary.
Who on Earth wants to scrape by at 6 dollars per hour as a fast-food worker? By their own free will?
There is direct, explicit, or physical force or pressure, and then there is the implicit and “social”. In PP’s mind only the former exists or is relevant. One can physically or legally leave a stressful office job, despite needing the income to feed one’s children.
The collective decision of the market? Really PP? Does the term “tragedy of the commons” mean anything to ya?
Not when the money has not been earned, and the exchange is not totally voluntary.
Who on Earth wants to scrape by at 6 dollars per hour as a fast-food worker? By their own free will?
There is direct, explicit, or physical force or pressure, and then there is the implicit and “social”. In PP’s mind only the former exists or is relevant. One can physically or legally leave a stressful office job, despite needing the income to feed one’s children.
And that’s precisely why I stated in my post that I support Murray’s negative income tax for the relatively poor. If all adult non-incarcerated Americans had a guaranteed income of over $10,000 a year, that would force employers to make their jobs minimally attractive to get anyone to work at all. I agree with you that right now, millions of people are being bullied into working jobs they hate.
Capitalism was a brilliant idea in that it takes advantage of human nature, that Darwinian instinct to compete and monopolize resources, by using it for the collective good. Extreme capitalism is one of the reasons America became the most innovative and powerful country on Earth, despite its lack of human capital.
We need to preserve what works in capitalism, while fixing what doesn’t. Mend it, don’t end it, as Bill Clinton famously said of affirmative action.
What doesn’t work about capitalism, is when people are forced into jobs they’re unable or unmotivated to do well in. That’s why there needs to be a generous safety net so that people can find out what they’re good at, and have the freedom and time to pursue it until it becomes profitable.
One of the biggest differences between billionaires and the rest of us, is the former were often given a support system that allowed them the freedom to pursue an unconventional path. If it weren’t for the UK’s welfare state, JK Rowling never would have had time to write “Harry Potter”
The real problem with guaranteed basic income for Americans is that most people would not be able to make good use of their time w/o routine work. It takes a lot of discipline to be a self initiator, even if one is a creative type.
peepee confuses working hard for money with earning money.
these are two VERY different things.
peepee confuses working hard for money with earning money.
these are two VERY different things.
How would you know? You do neither.
typical.
peepee doesn’t even know what stealing is,
and she’s a thief.
that’s incompetence!
Then why are “Marxists” constantly citing grotesque levels of economic inequality as evidence that the system’s rigged?
I guess Marxists haven’t read Marx just like Christains haven’t read the teachings of Jesus.
I guess Marx and Jesus are both just figureheads who were influential in name only
so peepee wants to distinguish people who call themselves “marxists”, but who know no more about marx’s thought than peepee, from peopel who’ve read marx AND understood him?
fine.
total trivia.
“But what people don’t get is that a brilliant doctor, will save maybe five lives a year, while thanks to television, the dumb athlete is entertaining TENS OF MILLIONS of people a year: a trivial service multiplied by tens of millions is indeed worth more than a valuable service for only five people.”
No it’s not worth more than the doctor’s work.
One effort is valuable, the other isn’t. One is real, the other is fake. One is good, the other is retarded.
Bread and circuses aren’t “trivial services”. That’s far too generous of you.
No it’s not worth more than the doctor’s work.
One effort is valuable, the other isn’t. One is real, the other is fake. One is good, the other is retarded.
Says who? God? Have you ever seen a group of men at a bar when they’re watching their favorite athletes on TV? The joy and enthusiasm they get is palpable. A doctor may keep them alive, but the athlete gives them reason to live.
I agree it’s retarded, but people are entitled to their retardation.
Since when has mindless entertainment been any kind of primary reason to live? One is saving lives the other is merely being entertaining, My family is far more valuable to my existance then some random guy. Ya watching a movie brings me joy but smoking a blunt with my friends on the peak of a mountain is far more enjoyable and honestly gives me more of a reason to live, hell reading your blog is more joyful then watching a football game in my honest opinion.
I see your point, but for millions of people, watching sports is very enjoyable, otherwise the ratings wouldn’t be so huge.
No, I completely understand what you’re saying. It’s fair as far as supply and demand go, Artists musicians and athlete’s professions require them to cater to millions because they are entertainers so the demand for them is high.
peepee makes the typical retarded assumption that what people find enjoyable is independent of what they have available and what they have had available in order to enjoy themselves.
makes the typical retarded assumption that the individual is independent of his society.
makes the typical retarded assumption that there is no such thing as society, there is just a set of atomic individuals.
It is the privilege of the gods to want nothing, and of godlike men to want little.
His wisdom consists precisely in not wanting what he doesn’t need.
SOVIET-ESQUE IS AN AESTHETIC STANDARD.
BOURGEOIS DECADENCE IS HIDEOUS.
GLOBALIZATION IS HIDEOUS.
MULTI-ETHNIC SOCIETIES ARE HIDEOUS.
…
THE CONTEMPORARY WORLD IS IDIOCRACY.
NO NEED TO WAIT 500 YEARS.
IT’S ALREADY HERE.
GOVERNMENT OF IDIOTS BY IDIOTS.
now the would be heideggerian is right.
but he’s still far too kind to peepee’s low IQ.
the only reason why a moron can entertain millions is because he’s won a winner take all competition.
not because he’s actually more entertaining than 1,000 other michael strahans who lost.
WINNER TAKE ALL COMPETITION…
FUCKTARD!
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TRIED OUT FOR THE PART OF DAVID ADDISON?
HOW MUCH DID TY COBB MAKE?
COMPARED TO DEREK JETER?
YOU FUCKTARDED FUCKTARD.
OLD TY MADE HIS FORTUNE THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY…
HE DIDN’T EARN IT.
HE WAS A BIG INVESTOR IN COCA-COLA.
WHAT A LOSER. RIGHT PEEPEE?
the only reason why a moron can entertain millions is because he’s won a winner take all competition.
It doesn’t matter WHY he’s able to. What matters is that the market has rewarded him for the service he provided. If there’s not enough demand to justify more than one entertainer per genre, why should the second place talent get any money at all?
not because he’s actually more entertaining than 1,000 other michael strahans who lost.
WINNER TAKE ALL COMPETITION…
Winner take all competition is largely the product of monopolies. Ayn Rand argued that monopolies were not possible in a truly free market and were caused by government meddling with the market:
The fastest cheetah catches the gazelle and gets to eat 100% of it.
That’s winner takes all.
So because some other cheetah runs 50% as fast, they’re entitled to 50% of a gazelle?
Nature doesn’t work that way.
And neither does capitalism.
” Ayn Rand argued that monopolies were not possible in a truly free market and were caused by government meddling with the market:”
Ayn Rand writes like an angry, balding fat man with a weak chin.
Read some Chesterton (the distributist Catholic)
“Nature doesn’t work that way.”
I agree. Off to the wolves you go.
“And neither does capitalism.”
Not that it has to.
“It doesn’t matter WHY he’s able to. What matters is that the market has rewarded him for the service he provided. If there’s not enough demand to justify more than one entertainer per genre, why should the second place talent get any money at all?”
Quoth Jung on “extraverted feeling”:
“The valuations resulting from the act of feeling either correspond directly with objective values or at least chime in with certain traditional and generally known standards of value. This kind of feeling is very largely responsible for the fact that so many people flock to the theatre, to concerts, or to Church, and what is more, with correctly adjusted positive feelings. Fashions, too, owe their existence to it, and, what is far more valuable, the whole positive and wide-spread support of social, philanthropic, and such like cultural enterprises.”
Sociopathy lite. PP was anticipated.
I can’t stop lol-ing at this:
“It doesn’t matter WHY he’s able to. What matters is that the market has“
“The just-world hypothesis or just-world fallacy is the cognitive bias (or assumption) that a person’s actions are inherently inclined to bring morally fair and fitting consequences to that person, to the end of all noble actions being eventually rewarded and all evil actions eventually punished.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
But what about the un-just world bias? Those who’ve failed in the market want to believe they’re the victims of injustice, rather than merely lazy and stupid.
It’s not about failing in the market itself that’s the problem. When so much rests on one’s performance in “the market”, this is a problem.
That isn’t simply something people want to believe, PP. It’s the truth more often than not.
ayn rand never explained anything except why she’s a retarded jew cunt.
peepee has never earned any money in her life.
“So in a very objective sense, the dumb athlete deserves more money than the brilliant doctor.”
In a very objective sense both you and the athlete ought to be flogged.
i prefer “de-lousing”.
“Cashiers are being replaced by automated checkout machines and McDonalds has introduced automated ordering machines,”
And here comes the death of centralized capitalism.
Now what?
history suggests what usually happens is the two technologies exist in tandem, but the new technology enlarges the entire industry, so it seems like the old industry is obsolete, but it still exists – only it is much smaller than the total size.. There are still horse and buggies (in NY and Salt Lake City for example) but the auto industry is so much bigger, and also employs millions more than the horse and buggy industry ever did.
Because the auto industry increased the demand for labor. Automation does not increase the demand of labor that most people are capable of or currently do.
me too, I am against minimum wage. When somebody says: “I am for 20 dollar per hour minimum wage, you can´t with less.” I will say: “I am against it, instead I am for 2000 dollar per hour minimum wage.” The lefty will than say, that´s does not work, and I respond that neither does 20 dollar work. The same goes with deficit spending policies which people a voting for because they follow Keynes. They want to spend upto they reach a 200% of gdp debt level, I say: why stop there, why not make 20000% of gdp debts?
In the end leftist need to understand that you can only consume as much as you have and that labor prices need to be built by the market
” labor prices need to be built by the market”
Whatever that is.
And why should they?
because this is the most efficient solution. best allocation of resources. also no time wasted by political negotiations. People see where they can earn money and choose those occupations
Most efficient for commodity production, maybe.
Why on Earth would anyone want that?
Idolatry aside.
The problem with your version is; Incentive.
With a “$2000 dollar minimum wage”, there is no incentive to rise above it and do more productive work.
With $20 there is.
Is this really that hard to understand?
Minimum wage needs to be tiered between welfare and higher level work.
Duh!
When the minimum wage is what it is now, there is little incentive to stay off welfare.
I recall what Robert Reich said, that we need a little bit of socialism to save capitalism.
This also seems to be PP’s view.
Dear God,
I’m no Marxist, but is this commenter serious?
$20 and $2000 are different because one does not provide the incentive to be *more* productive, one does.
This is dictated by the beloved market.
***Right-wingers don’t even understand right wing market ideals.***
DEAR GOD.
’cause “the market” is God. even though there’s no such thing as “the market”.
a better word for this fabulous beast would be SATAN.
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
so which is it? God or…
I agree that his post and that argument was perhaps the most ridiculous thing ever on this blog…
but you’re being silly.
The market IS what differentiates the two values, it does exist.
It’s not “satan”…
How does “Trumpocalypse Now” feel about Milton Friedman?
😉
you know how i feel peepee.
1. milton friedman decided on a phd in economics, because actuarial exams were too hard for him…he said so himself.
2. i passed all the actuarial exams on my first try and i made the high score in the world on the old SoA exam 100 when i sat it. but on the date i sat it the whole world was just the US and canada. leaving the exam i thought i had answered every question correctly.
Mugabe should join the ranks of JS….
Mugabe is too autistic to understand that many HBDers are just Nationalists (not even Charles Murray right winger types) and will keep inventing ways to put Jews and Asians down.
#autismisgood
PP a Marxist confirmed. I KNEW IT.
Come on goyim. Communism is great!
I’m just joking. But you endorse Marxist Jews for President. Hmmmm…
Doctors make more money than most athletes when you take into account that doctors have much longer careers
we already have a negative tax rate for the lowest of income earners…the poorest 20% have a negative effective income tax due to entitlement spending , which is a problem.
The interesting thing is, Marx actually embraced technology to some degree, as way to liberate workers from work. Many on the left, however, want to put people to work, at any cost, even if the work is unproductive and creates no economic value for the employer (FDR and Obama come to mind).
AND DOCTORS HAVE WON A COMPETITION.
WHAT FRACTION OF US MED SCHOOLS ADMIT > 10%?
IS THAT 10% REALLY EXACTLY THOSE WHO ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THE JOB?
BEN CARSON GOT IN, AND HE’S RETARDED.
“BEN CARSON GOT IN, AND HE’S RETARDED.”

……
The minimum wage should essentially be viewed as incentive to stay off welfare.
Grey Enlightenment has said poor should just be on welfare instead of doing menial work, and that’s fine.
But you can’t complain about the poor on welfare when they have no incentive to work at minimum wage jobs.
Liberals=Smart.
Conservatives= Dumb.
#fact
#antiselfinterest
#liberalmasterrace
“I do NOT support a minimum wage. If a consenting adult is willing to work for less than a penny an hour, the government has no right to prevent it. A minimum wage unfairly places the burden of helping the poor on job creators, rather than distributing it equally among all tax payers, and with a negative tax for the relatively poor, it becomes redundant.”
This is a fine idea in theory, PP, but I foresee it having disastrous implications. Without a minimum wage, how can we ensure that business owners won’t take advantage of immigrants, or disabled people, or even their own families? The answer: we can’t. Personally, I believe in some Libertarian policies—legalizing all drugs, keeping the internet uncensored (with the exception of, say, child porn), etc.—but this goes way too far for me. It would cause more harm than good.
it also leaves no incentive to stay of welfare.
The right-wingers can’t complain about such (welfare) but then want to keep wages so low that their is no incentive to stay off welfare (‘can’t have your cake and eat it too’)
“Too low a level of abstraction” with these right wingers, as Mugabe would say…
the reverse argument could be made if it goes too high, but we’re not anywhere near that, right now.
Many people should be on welfare. They offer few useful services that a machine can’t do better. Why torture them and others by forcing them to do jobs they can’t do. At least with a negative tax, they can develop of whatever talents they do have & find a valued place at their own pace rather than rushing into work they’re not suited for
PP- You are consistent. Most right-wingers would disagree with you on that, and hence, as I explained above, are incoherent.
Thank you.
Dude at least half the right doesn’t have a fetish for “duh free marcut” anymore lol.
And that’s just the American right-wingers…or whatever they are.
‘tree fiddy’ as he was formerly known, is correct.
What the mainstream right is generally for now is sure as hell not “free market”….
As one commenter “person” said;
“minimum wage is bad because if they get payed $20 it’s like getting paid $2000!?!?!?!”
The difference between what $20 will get you (purchasing parity) and $2000, IS determined by the market.
Either he’s retarded or doesn’t actually believe in the free market, or both 😉
PP: America is strictly a capitalistic society, where now, only the big companies have the advantage, unless you are capable of running a successful niche business.
In terms of work, it generally sucks for most people to work for a living. Lucrative Wall St jobs are neither interesting nor fun. They just pay very well for those who have the right stuff. Most people do not have the discipline to do their own thing, regardless of IQ levels, although lower IQ individuals are not very capable of self initiating,
JS does bring up an interesting point, that the demand for wages would go down if people enjoyed their work more…
peepee has never read marx, let alone understood him.
yet she has this post.
what marxists don’t seem to get is how utterly retarded most people are.
that’s it.
peepee, for example is so utterly retarded, she expatiates on what marxists don’t get yet has no idea at all what a “marxist” is.
peepee has never read marx, let alone understood him.
Neither have you obviously, otherwise you’d be able to defend him
what marxists don’t seem to get is how utterly retarded most people are.
Because they don’t own mirrors.
read these books peepee and understand them.
but it’s already been established that you cannot read.
“the market” may be a good thing after all in that retards like peepee can be exploited by their cognitive betters.
For example, a member of Prometheus brilliantly noted…
that he had a low IQ.
no.
in order to do that his IQ would have to have been high enough to never have joined the prometheus society.
…never to have joined…
PEEPEE PROVES ONCE AGAIN THAT THE PROLES ARE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY.
True, and MericaStan, unlike other 1st world nations, is populated with millions of undesirables who only know money via grunt work as the prime motivator, hence the stark contrast between the haves and have nots. Technology has replaced that grunt work and made these undesirables, completely useless.
JS-
I understand your point, but don’t you believe it is an oversimplification to attribute this solely to Jewish culture becoming increasingly dominant?
An increase of standard of living overall causes this materialism, too.
A “status” symbol type deal.
As our Mugabe pointed out about Africa, what is needed to survive is relatively limited.
That doesn’t lend itself to what we have in America, here today.
Americans are rather boring as a people, and over utilitarian, with money lust. Jews exacerbate the situation by adding sociopathic toxin (instead of excitement) into the mix.
Furthermore, Americans are socially disconnected as a whole, and minus well become the machines/technology that will replace them.
I don’t give much credence to Jews like PP or many other people. The reason why American citizens are 2nd rate as opposed to being top dogs has to do a lot with Jews and their influence. Somehow Europe’s persecuted minority, who created nothing of greatness, is somehow an asset in America is troubling, if not delusional, which many Americans are.
And then there’s Anglo Proles, who do really like Jews as always, hence you get a really degenerate and dysfunctional English speaking world.
JS-
I think it’s a stretch to say Jews didn’t do anything back in Europe.
They were on the forefront of Economic theory (Marx), and involved in Physical Science (Einstein, DNA co-discoverer as well as exiled Oppenheimer, who came here).
But they really didn’t emerge much until the 1800s.
and they could not just walk over the Europeans and into the top ranks of power, as they bascially did here.
I have no animus with the Great Jews in the sky (our new elite), but it is a sad testament to Anglos how they let them just waltz in.
Britain had the same happen (Disraeli, more recently Miliband, Cameron, etc.)
America plays second fiddle to Europe, because of Jews. The same reason why it plays 2nd fiddle, because of its vast population of primitives and inferiors.
The bottom line: Anglo Proles are inferior to Continental Euros at most fronts. And yes, their elites interbreed with the Yiddish types.
Anglo Prole worlds attract Jews because they are similar. Both are about greed with a lack of good taste.
This ugly wine store in NYC is owned by a Jew:
I’ve posted this several times on this blog.
Now speaking of Canada, just look at Toronto and compare it with Montreal. Toronto is your typical sloppy, half-assed, poor designed urban center, like most Anglo prole cities.
indeed.
the problem is hegel’s “abstraction” vs hegel’s “concrete”. “abstract” is a pejorative for hegel.
the following are abstractions:
the free market
the market
the economy
gesellschaft
anti-racism
multi-culturalism
utility functions
multi-racial people
homosexuals
trans-gendereds
the black standard poodle
american oligarchy
protestantism
wine coolers
flavored vodkas
hazel eyes
feed lot beef
etc.
the following are concrete-ness-es:
the nation state
gemeinschaft
beet soup
growing beets in your own garden
the golden retriever
scandinavian social democracy
provencal garlic soup
chartreuse
hitler
the one holy roman and apostolic church
the eastern orthodox churches
beer
gin
blue eyes
reindeer meat
etc.
oops i made a mistake:
abstract:
the golden retriever
concrete:
the black standard poodle.
I had an idea;
“Hitler Rant Parodies”, of Mugabe’s ‘Greatest Hits’;
Mugabe is obviously Hitler.
PP is Keitel.
Marsha Murphy is Eva.
Melo is Burgdorf.
Santoo is Goebbels.
I am Kreps.
…
you’re all peepee.
So PP purposefully writes in Jibberish to pretend to be a Brazilian fucktard?
“Crazy mofo”
JS is obviously Speer because Mugabe (Hitler) is very fond of him and JS talks about architecture a lot.
js is real.
the rest of you may or may not be peepee.
but you’re all so retarded that you’re not real.
you are vacuous, inane. jejune, hollow, sapor-less, etc.
if you were genuine people, you would say genuine things.
none of you has.
not once.
there’s simply nothing to you.
the zyklon b would just fill the room.
you were already dead.
if you’d ever lived.
commenters in order of not being peepee:
1. me
2. JS
3. santa claus
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100% of the others are 100% pure peepee.
but peepee may not know it.
just like she doesn’t know that she’s a half chinese, half black woman.
and a dyke.
that’s the way peepee roles.
IQ = 40
ethnicity = mixed
sexuality = lesbian
gender = female
gender identity = male
ethnic identity = white
IQ identity = smart
peepee is too retarded to understand that the athlete is “entertaining” ONLY because millions of others have lost.
and a large fraction of those others made an effort to be the best.
their effort was TOTALLY wasted.
free market efficiency!
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pro-sports and entertainment are PROLE.
BOURGEOIS DECADENCE!
PURE EVIL!
LIKE CHIMOS AND TRANS-SEXUALS AND AYN RAND!
in an ideal world they’d be ILLEGAL, just like gambling and prostitution.
MASS MEDIA IN THE BOURGEOIS WORLD/IDIOCRACY IS VICE…
PURE
AND
SIMPLE.
BUT STREET WALKING CAN BE HARD WORK.
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.
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YOU’RE A WHORE PEEPEE.
NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU WORK AT BEING A WHORE…
YOU’RE STILL A WHORE.
Didnt the german chancelor like sports a lot? didnt he run the olympic sports in his country?
note also that peepee, ayn rand, libertarians, and other sociopaths believe, or claim to believe, in the following proposition implicitly if not explicitly:
what is right and what is wrong, what is good taste and what is bad taste, what is good and what is evil, what is beautiful and what is ugly, what is useful and what is useless, what is necessity and what is luxury, etc.
all of these are merely matters of opinion, and all opinions must be respected.
this is the definition of SATANISM.
You are so incredibly stupid. You’ve confused libertarianism with post-modernism.
Y’all should get married and have a patch of Trumpkins 🙂
To the point: You said IQ 170 is so much more productive. I think that’s an astute observation, but I would counter with the fact that most IQ 170s are not being that productive. (You said yourself that high-income jobs contain a high % of high-IQ folks, but high income is rare in a sample of high-IQ folks.) Also, if the gap is widening, then what are we to make of the fact that IQ 170 has been a fairly stable % of society? That would imply no correlation.
I also noticed you failed to attribute the effects of technology advances to the poor. You’ve taken into account the productivity increase of the rich and multiplied by technology advances, but those same advances also apply to the poor. If we look back in history, it used to be that only the rich had access to the latest technology (ie printing press or even knowledge to write at all). Now, everyone does. So if anything, your point should moderate the wealth divide, not increase it.
Another perspective I could offer is that NFL may indeed provide entertainment and consequent “reason to live” to many fellas, but in the absence of sports, guys would find some other way to occupy their time (like I, for instance, seem to plug-along ok without sports.) So, entertainment is replaceable. Medical care is not. If you need a particular procedure, you can’t substitute with a different procedure. Go back to the days before NFL existed and you’ll find people still needed medical care.
(Also, athletes play against your theory that smart people make more money. Just saying 😉
If you really want to get to the bottom of what causes the wealth divide, I can lay that out very succinctly: The Treasury issues debt that banks buy in order to front-run the Fed who buys with printed money which then flows directly into banks as profits and into the pockets of the 1% while raising inflation for everyone as a means to inflate-away the debt. So, it’s the privatization of profits with the socialization of costs. Any other variable is insignificant in comparison. Add to it that capital gains are taxed less than regular income and you have a pretty good recipe for a great division of wealth.
Concerning inheritance tax, any money an heir inherits will likely be spent, not invested. Sales tax from the spending will apply and the rest will show as profits for companies who will then pay taxes. It all ends the same way, the only difference is who decides what the money is spent on. Give it to the gov and they will make the decision where the money goes and what companies to support.
Without minimum wage, there would be less incentive to get off welfare. Why contribute to the productivity of society when one could leech off it instead? Corporate America can afford a few extra bucks. The US gov cannot.
(Although I concede your point that some should remain on welfare/disability)
”I also noticed you failed to attribute the effects of technology advances to the poor. You’ve taken into account the productivity increase of the rich and multiplied by technology advances, but those same advances also apply to the poor. If we look back in history, it used to be that only the rich had access to the latest technology (ie printing press or even knowledge to write at all). Now, everyone does. So if anything, your point should moderate the wealth divide, not increase it.”
The democratization of technology increase the wealth of the rich and specially of the super rich.
Democratization of technology = affordability of technology to the poor, which increases the customers of technology, which should increase profits to the sellers of technology. You are correct in that.
However, I was addressing the point that technology unfairly increases productivity of the rich, which I think is false.
In the 1980s, only the super-rich had mobile phones.
In the 1990s, only the well-to-do had them.
Now, everyone not only has a mobile phone, but it serves as a supercomputer as well (which can spell-check and do math, which begins to mute IQ differences between rich and poor).
The productivity gap between rich and poor is closing.
The productivity gap between rich and poor is closing.
But when a writer writes a book, technology allows them to print millions of copies and serve millions of customers.
When a poor person cooks a meal in a diner, there’s no technology that allows him to duplicate that meal and feed a million people. So the poor are stuck serving one customer at a time while the rich can now serve millions of customers at a time. That WIDENS the productivity gap because the rich create intellectual property which can be endlessly multiplied, while the poor create physical property which can not.
“But when a writer writes a book, technology allows them to print millions of copies and serve millions of customers”, whether the writer is rich or poor.
Can you illustrate how being rich better enables someone to print a book? It doesn’t cost much to publish a book https://blog.reedsy.com/cost-to-self-publish-a-book Moreover, many books today have nothing to do with paper and that enables anyone to publish anything, of any length, for essentially free.
I don’t see the distinction between poor cooks and rich chefs, other than affording the greatest stoves, which are only marginally more-profitable in a restaurant than the poorest stoves.
Maybe I’m not seeing your point. Can you think of more analogies?
If by comparing rich writers to poor cooks you’re saying that the rich only contribute intellectual property while the poor only contribute physical, then I think that presumes that most smart people are rich. In your analysis of IQ vs income, you massaged the numbers as best you could to conclude with a correlation of only .49 (no offense intended, but it does seem you started with a suspicion and sought evidence to back it, which is fine, just saying). If that is the most optimistic evidence, then it’s insufficient to make the claim that most smart people are rich. In fact, it’s more likely that the population of non-rich-smart-people is greater than that of rich-smart-people; therefore, it’s at least equally likely to have intellectual contributions from both classes and the only limiting factor is cost, which technology is reducing and that is leveling the playing field.
Another thing to consider is that robots are building much more physical property than in times past, which is another illustration of the narrowing productivity gap because it forces people who were previously building things into service-sector jobs… and that’s where the analogy of cooks and writers ends.
Technology is increasingly blurring the lines of what it means to be rich. In other words, the advantages that the rich once had are no longer advantages, but common to all. I think that is the point of technology.
If by comparing rich writers to poor cooks you’re saying that the rich only contribute intellectual property while the poor only contribute physical, then I think that presumes that most smart people are rich.
All I’m saying is that there’s a huge divide between the creators of physical value and the creators of mental value that didn’t used to be there in the past, and this is a major cause of income and wealth inequality. It’s not really about the rich being smarter than the poor. Heart surgeons are much smarter than wrestlers, but because wrestlers create mental value (entertainment) which can be duplicated a million times through mass media, and heart surgeons create physical value (actually fixing a heart), which can not, professional wrestlers are richer than heart surgeons.
It’s our property laws which have largely created the inequality. In the past, if you wrote a book, the book was yours because you physically created it, but you could only sell one at a time because it took years to handwrite or type. But with technology and copyright laws, if that book is photocopied a million times, you get money for each copy, even though the machine did all the duplication work, not you. But the law says I’m not allowed to photocopy your book and sell it, so I’m not allowed to share in your profit, allowing you a huge monopoly, hence income inequality.
The same with the dumb wrestler. In the past he would have to fight 100 times to entertain people in 100 cities, but with TV carrying footage of him fighting to a 100 cities at once, he can entertain 100 cities at once and make 100 times as much money. But if I try to film the fight and sell copies of the tape, I’m not allowed because he has the exclusive rights.
In your analysis of IQ vs income, you massaged the numbers as best you could to conclude with a correlation of only .49 (no offense intended, but it does seem you started with a suspicion and sought evidence to back it, which is fine, just saying).
I reported all the studies I know of showing the IQs of different economic classes. Some of the studies went against my robust correlation, such as decamillionaires being no smarter than regular millionaires. I think my analysis was pretty objective, although I admit, at the extreme high end (decaBillionaires), the data was low quality.
“this is a major cause of income and wealth inequality.”
Maybe we should start with an identification of who the wealthy really are. You said only one athlete is a billionaire, so athletes are not part of the equation. Can you tell me who the wealthy are?
“But the law says I’m not allowed to photocopy your book and sell it, so I’m not allowed to share in your profit, allowing you a huge monopoly, hence income inequality.”
People copy videos all the time and get paid on youtube. Technology is paving the way of pirating. Millennials are increasingly in favor of community property rather than private ownership. The laws are increasingly less enforceable and that’s due to technology.
“I reported all the studies I know of showing the IQs of different economic classes.”
I don’t have a problem with confirmation bias and I think you did a good job, I was merely pointing out that your interpretation is about as optimistic as it gets because you sought to prove what you already suspected.
Btw, how do I italicize? [/eye]? Where eye = i
Maybe we should start with an identification of who the wealthy really are. You said only one athlete is a billionaire, so athletes are not part of the equation. Can you tell me who the wealthy are?
Look up the Forbes 400
http://www.forbes.com/forbes-400/#f65987a410c2
Billionaires are largely people who own computer or media companies.
People copy videos all the time and get paid on youtube. Technology is paving the way of pirating. Millennials are increasingly in favor of community property rather than private ownership. The laws are increasingly less enforceable and that’s due to technology.
That’s a case of new technology eliminating inequality caused by old technology, but it was still technology that caused the inequality in the first place.
Yes pirating music on the internet makes it harder for singers to become millionaires, but they never would have become millionaires in the first place had it not been for earlier technology (the tape recorder, which allowed them to duplicate their songs to the millions of people they don’t have time to personally sing to)
Btw, how do I italicize? [/eye]? Where eye = I
This link explains it:
Click to access basic_html.pdf
Billionaires are largely people who own computer or media companies.
Almost all (if not all) of the Forbes list got rich because of the stock market, which is what I said in my first comment about the fed and money printing.
Bill Gates was born to a wealthy family, for starters, then he bought stock in his own company and was awarded more stock as a pay package, then the stock was bid up in the mania of the late 90s which the fed then rescued after the crash, twice. His wealth, ironically, had little to do with technology.
Buffett, same deal. Bought stock that was bid up by the baby boomers and then supported by the fed when the money ran out.
Bezos started amazon, a company that never made a profit for 15 years, yet the stock climbed ever higher and made him rich.
Zuckerberg started facebook, went public and his company is now part of the FANGs portfolio (facebook, amazon, netflix, google) which are companies with questionable profit that are bid up to ridiculous p/e’s simply because they are cool. Anyone owning stock before the IPO (ie zuckerberg) is instantly rich and gets richer as banks pump more QE into the system.
I could go on and on down the list.
It’s nothing new. There has been a wealth divide as long as there have been humans and the only thing I have seen to stop it has been government. FDR did much to smooth the divide then Reagan reversed some of that to give us what we have today. So the cause of the divide may be labeled as simply “lack of government policy” since government is the only thing capable of redistributing wealth.
But back to the productivity divide. A long time ago, only the rich had a printing press; but now, we all do. A long time ago, we had to take horses and buggies to the live show, now we have pirated music to inspire us. We copy it, rearrange it and redistribute it. How many times has “Tainted Love” been redone? We stand on the shoulders of many giants, rich and poor alike.
I just ate a salami sandwich and was thinking “$2.85 for a pile of sliced salami is too good to be true. How can this be possible? It would take me months to make my own, but for a few bucks I have a pile of it.” Just think how much more productive I can be with my time now that I don’t have to make my own salami. Yet, for the rich guy, nothing has really changed. He’s had access to fine salami for centuries.
Whether we talk about washing clothes, dishes, buying dishes, driving cars, etc; the poor can be infinitely more productive thanks to technology while the productivity of the rich mostly hasn’t changed because they’ve always had servants to do the things that consume too much of their time so that they can be productive instead.
As I keep saying, as we move forward, technology is leveling the playing-field by enabling the poor to be increasingly productive while not imparting the same advantage to the rich.
But the advantage the rich do have is government. Since 1948, productivity has gone up 241% while wages have stagnated since the 70s http://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/ There’s more wealth divide with the rich stealing productivity from the poor because they control government policy. Nevermind the asian sweatshop workers who assemble things for sale in the US, thereby bypassing the wage-demand of US workers while stealing even more productivity from Asia than they ever could have dreamed of doing in the US. This theft of productivity is not technologically driven… it’s driven by lack of government policy to stop it.
”However, I was addressing the point that technology unfairly increases productivity of the rich, which I think is false.
In the 1980s, only the super-rich had mobile phones.
In the 1990s, only the well-to-do had them.
Now, everyone not only has a mobile phone, but it serves as a supercomputer as well (which can spell-check and do math, which begins to mute IQ differences between rich and poor).”
Iq differences between rich and poor is unlikely that will be eliminated only if we will make all poor rich and reduce/fractionate the wealth of the supper riches to the moderate levels, in other words, equalizing in artificial ways.
Iq differences among individuals express genotypical and or intrinsic/genetic differences.
Technology will not reduced this gap even because many clever rich people will fight against to this possible social equalization, adapting to the new demands.
Technology instead help people to become smarter, i thought, christallized way, may have opposite impact, make people more lazy, using less their brains for example to do mathematic accounts to their own way.
and with the increasing of technology efficience, security and facility to be used, intelligence, specially technical intelligence, will not be required anymore (specially with artificial intelligence emancipation) because everyone will can for example drive a boeing.
we will create a idiocracy scenario where most people are dumb but society still is technologically advanced.
we are transfering dangerously ”our intelligence” to the machines instead increase it by correct ways.
more caution, i thought.
”The productivity gap between rich and poor is closing.”
there are a lot parasitic types among the upper classes, i thought the best comparison is not between social classes but levels of productiveness where will be this trends of highly inovators who are generally be found among upper classes and lower inovators among under classes.
generally the owners of means of production exactly because they are the owners, pass the idea that they are considerably highly productives than any others… and in part it’s not wrong because unfortunately greed, certain types of creativity and machiavelian personality traits tend to correlates one each other.
in other perspective behind many rich enterpeneurs we will found a genuine creative geniuses or highly talented people (talented team behind the highly productive enterpeneur).
OR the misery among ”masses” reduced considerably specially in the western world, but super riches still exist.
All this trends are recent and i don’t know if they are sustainable for long term.