I have a hobby of trying to guess IQs from a person’s most salient bio-demographic cognitive correlates (head size, money, religion etc) and commenter Teffec suggested I do this for the late great Charlie Kirk given his impressive height and influence. But influence is a bit amorphous so I decided to use his impressive occupation and height instead.
Although reports vary, according to Grok, Charlie Kirk is most commonly listed as 6’3.5″ which according to Grok, would make him 2.23 standard deviations above the average for American men of his generation (99th percentile). To put this in perspective, I had Grok list the 10 most successful talk show hosts of all time and provide their heights as Z scores relative to Americans of their sex and generation and the mean was 0.856 with an SD of 0.9. So relative to other elite talk show hosts, Kirk’s age and sex adjusted height is +1.7 SD (95th percentile).
Now in unrestricted samples the correlation between IQ and height is 0.25, but because talk show hosts show less cognitive variance than Americans as a whole, the expected correlation would be only 0.18.
Thus Kirk’s expected IQ =
(correlation between IQ and height among elite talk hosts)(IQ SD of elite talk hosts) + (mean IQ of elite talk hosts)
(0.18)(10.71) + 125
127 (U.S. norms) 125 (U.S. white norms) (smarter than 96% of his generation and a bit smarter than the average super successful talk show host)
The standard error of the estimate is about 10.
Psychometric confirmation
I could find no publicly available data on how Kirk scored on the SAT/ACT but I may have found something about as good, which is hours of Kirk debating students at the most elite UK schools. After watching Kirk take questions from many young people at Cambridge and Oxford, I found five scenarios that were actual debates where there was a clear winner. Of these five, Kirk won three and lost two suggesting he’s smarter than 60% of Oxford/Cambridge students. Since we know these students have an average IQ of 120 (UK norms); 122 (U.S. norms) suggesting Kirk has a mean IQ in the mid 120s in my humble opinion.
Thus the biodemographic prediction is confirmed by actual psychometric performance on a highly g loaded mental task (debating in real time on diverse subject matters) that can be objectively graded by what Jensen would call a clear standard of proficiency.
The most interesting debate was with the medical student who challenged Kirk’s opposition to abortion. I think Kirk was right to argue that life begins at conception because that’s the only point in development where there is a discrete non-arbitrary separation between life and non-life. Everything after that is just a perfect continuum that can’t be objectively subdivided. However his weak point was failing to adequately explain what it is about life that makes it morally sacrosanct. Nonetheless despite the cheers for his opponent, I think Kirk convinced a lot of rational conservatives that abortion should be opposed, not for moral reasons where his arguments made no sense, but to avoid demographic replacement.
pp, can you link to how standard error was calculated?
You have a sample of 10 talk show hosts.
Samples below 30 require T score correct?
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For Charlies IQ
125 is PhD level?
Standard Error = (Standard Deviation of predicted variable)(Square root of 1 – squared correlation)
Yes 125 is PhD level…or higher.
Celeb IQ SD * square root of 1 – Height correlation?
(10.79)(sqrt(1 – 0.18)) = 9.77
Except you have to square 0.18 before subtracting it from 1
I couldn’t imagine debating like that, live, in front of an audience. I’d be nervous as hell, tripping over my words, struggling to string sentences together, let alone answering on the fly. My IQ would probably drop 10-20 points.
In writing, I can edit and think, but in speech it’s just first come first serve. It would sound something like, “Ok, so in a countr-, wait, so lemme think-, if you, wait-, ok, let’s say-, wai-wai-wai-wait, just lemme think for a seco-, take for example the coun- , ok, so you know like- , umm , uh, wait”.
I prefer debating online specifically because:
1) I get more time to think about my responses
2) It’s a lot easier to point out bad-faith interlocuters
It’s all there in-front of everyone to see, you can’t edit it or take it back, you can’t pretend like you weren’t being fallacious.
For people like me with pretty bad ADD it’s a lot easier than real-time scenarios that strain my working memory.
That’s not to say I’ve never debated in real time. I have. But I typically resort to the Socratic method in real-time debates.
” ..the Socratic method” oh you’re one of those people.
So, you basically convince people to stop talking to you when you’re in a debate.
Why does people asking you questions to test the foundations of your beliefs trigger you?
bad faith triggers alot of people
Lol so pathetic.
This is why we’re fucked. You literally throw a temper tantrum like a little piss baby because you DEMAND to believe stupid without being challenged.
no, its just that I don’t like jerks like you that troll people
if you were a good faith actor things be different but you are not, you want to piss people off intentionally.
were only fucked if we let people like you win.
So the best thing to do it not feed you as much.
Hopefully you stop being immature and start having real conversations with people not based on your ego.
There is no point in having real conversations with you. Because when someone challenges you, you shy away like a coward.
There is absolutely no reason to not treat you like trash. What you believe and say has an effect on other people. You are responsible for that.
Even if what I believed was stupid you have no good reason to treat people like dirt the way you do.
The book cartoon guide to genetics is not just for kids but for adults as well. Calling it stupid is a dishonest attempt to disprove the existence of intelligence by you and rr. The Middle school knowledge is very advanced given it was written in 1983 – you look down on people because they don’t read your propaganda books.
I’d have to watch the Cambridge debate again, but I think he definitely lost to the white girl, that white aggressive kid who was jumpy, and the professor.
He lost to the redhead jumpy kid and to the medical student in my opinion. I didn’t count the professor because not a student so part of a different IQ distribution.
I think Tilly ate his ass up. More so than any of the other students.
That’s why her clip went the most viral
I actually scored that one for Charlie because he caught her in a contradiction. First she denied the validity of self-reported happiness and then turned around and used self-reported happiness to buttress her point.
I think she was using self-reported happiness because that was a metric he was using, but regardless, I thinks he dunked on him more during the debate, so I’d still give it to her.
I’m pretty sure she’s just white but I’m not 100% sure. I follow her on TikTok.
Btw is Tilly a Genetic Superior?
The thing with women being unhappy is that this is so easy to defend against Charlies’ postion.
You literally just question how he arrives from point A to point B.
But is that due to babies or economics? There are a million other factors He would have to actually show the connection. Show the studies. he can’t do that, though.
I was looking into visual working memory and found out that the complexity of objects can change how many we can keep track of at any given moment.
The number of objects with features that an average adult can track at any time accurately in visual working memory is:
Mean 5
SD 1.13
Babies age 2 can track 1 object
170 would be able to track 10.273 objects with features
Features include: shape color size position and orientation
Basically these are what we can “chunk” together by having a number of objects set in mind.
I am looking into this to find out how we are able to solve 3D puzzles in space.
Chunking is key
It matters how many we can do / transfer the information into long term memory.
If I am right an astronaut IQ 136 can chunk 7.712 items of visual/spatial data into long term memory at a time.
The space program is one of the most advanced projects we have.
Living in space as a normal life will take raising mean IQ by a tremendous amount.
“necessary but not sufficient”
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If this is the best attempt to disprove the connection between the brain and intelligence then melo and rr are just clowns.
no one takes that shit seriously, real scientist study brains and intelligence all the time, I read those articles about it all the time on the web.
so much real science exists available to the public I don’t know why melo and rr even try?
Lol, I don’t believe there’s a disconnection between intelligence and the Brain.
RR and I actually disagree about this.
Why don’t you know that?
You accept that rr is right over what I say.
If I am responsible for what I believe and those beliefs are stupid then obviously you disagree with what I believe just like rr
My beliefs are the brain is connected to intelligence and you called me a coward for believing stupid shit like that.
You are on his (rr’s) side.
because you are both jerks and wont change your bad behaviors.
treating people like me as trash for believing “stupid shit” like the brain being connected to intelligence.
bad faith is in everything you do melo
either prove my beliefs are stupid or shut the fuck up
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what melo will do is what he always does
say: “you don’t understand rrs views”
or some shit like that
its all inconsequential because he just wants to troll people so nothing of substance will come from him
“My beliefs are the brain is connected to intelligence and you called me a coward for believing stupid shit like that.”
That’s obviously not what I was referring to, Cat.
“say: “you don’t understand rrs views””
YOU FUCKING DON’T!
“YOU FUCKING DON’T!”
Disagreement is not the same as not understanding.
rr has so many false views that I try and explain why he is wrong but his agenda makes him blind to any alternatives. Everyone who disagrees with him must be stopped in any way possible. That’s not what an honest person would do. It’s ideology and not truth seeking.
“necessary but not sufficient”
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melo is too dumb to know I understand what this means but doesn’t bother to know why I reject it.
rr has used this phase time and time again to try and trick people into agreeing with him that physical intelligence is racist and I don’t play those types of games.
he does this with genetics as well.
rr even said that I was trying to prove racism by saying proteins have shapes.
That’s so dishonest and shows rr doesn’t give as fuck about truth at all.
melo cannot see that rr is blinded by politics.
politics destroyed any hope of rr being honest in a scientific way.
“rr even said that I was trying to prove racism by saying proteins have shapes.”
Haha what?
This is what I mean dude. If I hadn’t seen this guy’s face I wouldn’t believe he’s real.
“protein shapes is just an autistic way of you trying to prove HBD”
This is exactly what rr said more or less and since HBD is racism rr called me racist for believing proteins have shapes.
I give up on you trolls
“treating people like dirt”
mug never did this to me
bring back mug
There was this person who built his own computer in the 1960s who was 17 years old. He programmed it himself to write music by his own algorithm.
I don’t think bill gates is actually 170
That is a statistical artifact of one test and the narrow skill test criteria (g would be different)
Bill might be 155 in g terms
The computer he programed was a LISP computer. Altair 8800
Both Bill Gates and the 17 year old studied computers at advanced universities where they were available at the time (1960s punch card computers)
Part of Noam Chomsky’s work was about how language was recursive in 4 levels that included computer Turing completeness.
So understanding computers in the theory is a hard thing to do. Alan Turing’s paper on the Turing machine: Alan Turing had to be a genius.
I am trying to understand the theory behind universal computers.
But I barely am looking into the CPU architecture. (I have a picture I made)
I cannot really learn modern code, I am trying to do it bottom up.
Make my own kernel like Linux.
I would need some hardware though as modern stuff is hard to hack.
Everything is built for the personal purpose of the designers not for others.
Windows blocked me out of github so I have no choice.
“natural selection”
yes this is why allows new species to evolve
animals survive because they better fit to there environment by the features in their metabolic and bodily phenotype.
Darwin said:
“If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down. But I can find out no such case.”
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Because complex organisms can only exist by slight variations happening natural selection is true.
No one has ever quoted Darwin in such a way to disprove natural selection, neither melo not rr
This is how retarded he is. He thinks I don’t believe in Natural Selection.
if you agree with rr then you don’t believe what I believe.
my beliefs are stupid to you thus opposite because you took rrs side
simply put you call my beliefs stupid
and I believe in natural selection
“simply put you call my beliefs stupid”
LMAO.
So, when I said your beliefs were stupid, you thought that was in reference to literally all of your beliefs?
Can you actually point out where I said NS is false?
I say you don’t understand RR’s views because you don’t.
I do understand them. I just disagree with them.
melo has secrete knowledge into rr beliefs and everyone else is too stupid to know thus he has the right to mistreat them.
^arrogance
This but unironically
I hardly comment here anymore and this guy still brings me up. Funny stuff.
The only secret knowledge Melo has into my views is discussing them with me for years and actually reading what I write. I think we disagree more than we agree about things.
Got 40/50 on this practice wonderlic
50 Question Wonderlic Practice Test – Wonderlic Test Practice
*5th attempt, no timer
Cope, lol.
But to be fair, I thought it seemed high too.
I’ve seen scans of the real Wonderlic on reddit, and the questions seem harder because it isn’t multiple choice. So, I’m sure I would score lower on the real deal.
That website wont save your data.
Its a scam
Yeah, at first, I tried clearing cookies and even switched browsers, and once I realized it was impossible I went through it a final time, answered all the obvious ones really quick, and then I checked my answers on the ones I felt were less obvious. I made sure to use all of the same answers from the first attempt.
I answered 48/50 on my first attempt and got 42/50 correct. I subtracted a couple points just in case I was actually wrong on the correct answer. But the only ones that were actually “hard” were the ones that involved quick math.
Hey Pumpkin. Have you heard of the now-discontinued Miller’s Analogies Test? If so, is there a possible way to find out its correlation to IQ? I’ve provided a link below.
https://pdfhost.io/v/CAKUyECXQ_MAT_Copypdf.pdf
If there’ve been studies where people who took it also took the WAIS or the Raven. But analogy tests tend to have high g loadings so I doubt the correlation with official IQ tests is low.
IQist, Hereditarian, etc. etc.
These are propaganda words to discredit people.
I don’t think intelligence is nonphysical so people like melo and rr need these words to bully people like me with so as make other people believe stupid shit about me. RR was a white nationalist and why else would he use those words against a random person online. Its a political move to make anyone who thinks intelligence is connected to the physical as a racist. I was his random target and melo played along.
It is always the dishonest people that bully, because of some agenda.
These people don’t care what the truth is, as long as they get what they want the ends justify the means. Targeting random people like me with strawmen and lies.
IQ tests are not about racism.
I did several IQ tests and I could never do the harder problems even with practice.
People can either handle the cognitive load on their working memory or they can’t.
So like you have many things in the environment to deal with at the same time and considering what they all can do together. That takes being able to see them all and recall and encode them. How else would it be other than that when it comes to IQ tests? If you say they are just knowledge tests then they would not require visual/spatial understanding of all the parts going together becoming harder and harder to solve as more and more considerations are added.
What characterizes the tests hardness is that some people see the answers faster because they see all the parts working together.
A person then can answer all the questions.
All the interactions of all the parts on all the questions.
Like I said the average person can track 5 things at once with all the features involved. In any environment those who can track more would be able to exist in more complex environments and solve those problems.
There is this project called TruEyeQ that is able to measure this in a persons eye movements. The ability to visually track and rearrange the data in working memory. they are able to tell who is better at it.
So more intelligent people do exist.
And they track more and consider more inside themselves.
Why people want to deny that intelligent people exist is beyond me.
I believe that eye tracking can be used to enhance intelligence in the future. Getting the brain to coordinate with itself better.
melo is hateful
rr is hateful
why?
what did I do to them?
I believe intelligence is physical.
that means I am racist somehow?
what makes people lie so much?
you both have problems
get help
The fact that they will never explain it to you (if they actually have views that differ from your perhaps “simplistic” distillation of them above) means they are either not smart enough, or do not care enough about you (which means they are also probably not that intelligent), but apparently care enough to insult you instead of just ignore or help you bit by bit. RR kind of does but he’s slightly autistic.
They’re trying their best. Its their religious beliefs. Try telling a muslim mohammed was a paedophile and see what reaction you get.
There is nothing wrong with believing intelligence is nonphysical. What is wrong is using it to justify hatred the way rr and melo do. Lying about others, defaming them: “Your racist if you don’t believe in nonphysical intelligence.” And worst is that rr was a white nationalist calling people racist who were not. Melo taking his side make sense only if he is as dishonest as rr is. How can melo not know what rr is doing?
He believes that promoting nonphysical intelligence with stop racism because he feels guilty for being a white nationalist. but to do so he has to be evil about doing it. Distorting truths, facts and logics. rr took it upon himself to fight racism but by evil methods of politics not science.
Science has always been distorted by politics.
We can learn how that happens by rrs example.
Science is self correcting, lies don’t last because science is an open field whereas politics creates cults that must believe everything you are told, or else. In science we can disagree and test what is true or not. We don’t have to believe everything someone tells us. In politics lies exist because they cannot be tested, all you need is to spread the propaganda. Science limits that by allowing people to think for themselves. It is the diversity of thought that keeps lies at bay. Even if people try and discredit others by associating the ideas with bad things, other can see that those ideas work and not be fooled. Cults never survive in the science community. (obvious lies are obvious)
“He believes that promoting nonphysical intelligence with stop racism because he feels guilty for being a white nationalist. but to do so he has to be evil about doing it. Distorting truths, facts and logics.”
??? Did someone hack into Anime’s account? Why is he being super high IQ now? Whats going on. We need to audit this account. All browsing and cookie history. Who is hacking into it? Jimmy?
You’re still smoking the good shit.
I will say that what you wrote is well-written and the argument is pretty good (your delusions that the argument has to do with my beliefs not withstanding).
Michael Jackson wasn’t a child molester.
Those are just jewish lies because he tried releasing a song about Israel’s mistreatment of Palestinians.
Uh no lol
Tsk tsk, Pumpkin.
I always knew you were secretly a Mossad agent.
This guy is more religious than those people in the Jim Jones cult
Trump to Netanyahu after latest peace talks/offering with Palestine: “Why are you always so fucking negative”
Hahaha!!!
(Netanyahu is a vampire)
Puppy would say Michael Jackson was a 170IQ.
Top 0.1& of musicians/dancers
Ultra famous with cult like following
Black
Rich
Became no.1 in a racist country in the 1980s (lol)
Billie Jean
I estimated he was 135.
hahaha
RR isn’t autistic. There is no such thing as an autistic personal fitness bro.
RR is a religious nut. It sounds like autism because its divorced from reality. He literally says there are invisible parts of the mind that exist separate from the body. And our blogger sits there and takes him seriously.
It’s the only way he can believe blacks (who have a literal different ancestor from our non-homo sapiens ancestor/s) with smaller brains and a general physiognomy and development cycle of a primitive, lower intelligence and more tribal hominid, could possess the intellectual capacity as Whites or Asians.
He’s definitely either “religious” or “autistic” when it comes to these beliefs.
“blacks (who have a literal different ancestor from our non-homo sapiens ancestor/s)”
When will this claim die? It’s wrong.
Well he might be jewish. The guy reads only jewish books.
Nope. Born and raised Roman Catholic.
“When will this claim die? It’s wrong.”
Do they not have the DNA of a different non-homo sapiens hominid that Europeans and (East) Asians do not posess?
Regardless, it’s not that important.
All races have a bit of non-sapien DNA. We know the least about it in Africa because ancient DNA doesn’t preserve well in hot climates
Everyone knows Sauron created the blacks.
They have a different non-homo sapiens ancestor, not Neanderthal.
Correct.
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I have a reference for that fact. Its in a book by JRR Tolkien. Cambridge professor.
No. The model had unrealistic assumptions. And the signal was observed in other, non-African populations. So the “2 to 18 percent ghost DNA” or whatever value from the maymay is wrong.
https://x.com/DialecticBio/status/1752167415323201649?t=0zvWK7BJqeuQkwRH9pF9TA&s=19
They might not have 2 to 18% but I doubt they have nothing. There were plenty of non-sapien hominids to breed with in Africa over the last 70 thousand years
Actually worse than that. He said RR was a MENSA person.
Whereas Marsha said he was borderline mentally retarded.
Obviously the 170IQ person without autism is correct. I was wrong. I thought he was smart. But he was just copying and pasting high IQ gypsies.
Whats trumps IQ?
About 120
What evidence is there that Trump is that intelligent?
Ability to talk off the cuff in an entertaining way. Very few people can do that especially at his age
I mean, you’ve clearly never been on a construction site, like ever.
I doubt being witty has a high correlation to IQ because there are many stupid people who are fast thinkers.
Like rappers… or comedians….
You’re going to have to give me more than that. In fact, most accounts of Trump’s intelligence are not really flattering, even among his sycophants.
I agree it’s not a strong measure of IQ, but but when you’re in the top 2% in ANY major cognitive ability, and you’re at least average range in every other major area, then your overall brain power is likely to approach the top 10%.
“but when you’re in the top 2%”
I don’t think he’s top 2% at all. There are many people who are way wittier than him. Infact there are wittier presidents than him, like Obama, Biol Clinton, and even a younger Joe Biden.
I think the reality is he’s much closer to the mean and that allows him to appeal to low-IQ rural Americans.
I think he has the right combination of mental traits: high narcissism, average IQ, high extraversion, that allows him to fail upwards the way he does.
“The Devil favors him”
He might be top 2% in narcissism.
Obama and Clinton could never held rallies where they spoke off the cuff for hours like trump can and kept the audience entertained the whole time. Most 79-year olds are so boring after 2 minutes you want to cry but if you had trump at any dinner party he’d keep people amused the whole time.
Look at how he just took over the Republican Party dominating the debates against opponents decades younger & decades more experienced, destroying the bush legacy & when the audience booed he creatively accused them all of being Jeb’s doners. When híllary said thank God someone like trump is not in charge of our laws he replied “cause you’d be in jail” to massive audience reaction. He’s just quick on his feet in ways very few old men are
“Obama and Clinton could never held rallies where they spoke off the cuff for hours like trump can “
Writing speeches that are articulate, intelligent, and uniting that span for hours is far more difficult than speaking nonsense for 2 hours straight.
Have you actually watched a Trump rally? They’re not always super entertaining and when they are it’s because he’s literally saying wildly retarded shit.
I can’t do what 21 Savage (a Rapper) can do, but I know I am smarter than him.
Similarly, I don’t think I would’ve been able to take over the republican party, and neither could you have. But that doesn’t mean Trump is smarter than us.
The reason Trump had such an easy time gaining die-hard supporters has more to do with him not acting like a politician. his off-the-cuff remarks, and crass language make people like him, but those traits are indicative of lower, not higher intelligence. In fact, I’d say the high IQ of politicians like Hillary Clinton HINDER their ability to garner support.
Similarly, I don’t think I would’ve been able to take over the republican party, and neither could you have. But that doesn’t mean Trump is smarter than us.
Different people are good at different things, but anyone with ANY major cognitive strength at the +2 SD level (age adjusted) with no weaknesses below the average range, is likely to have a composite score around +1.33 SD (age adjusted).
The reason Trump had such an easy time gaining die-hard supporters has more to do with him not acting like a politician. his off-the-cuff remarks, and crass language make people like him, but those traits are indicative of lower, not higher intelligence.
We already tried that with Sarah Palin and yeah she was a huge star for a while but unlike Trump she crashed as soon as she entered non-scripted environments. Trump has both the appeal of the common man PLUS enough IQ to think on his feet.
“with no weaknesses below the average range”
This statement here is doing A LOT of heavy lifting buddy.
“unlike Trump she crashed as soon as she entered non-scripted environments. ”
Trump has a lot of unscripted moments that backfire on him like Palin. The difference is, Palin didn’t have a massive propaganda arm behind her to hide or rationalize these fuckups, and she wasn’t a specifically anti-institutional candidate who has a die-hard cult that will follow her no matter what she says.
This statement here is doing A LOT of heavy lifting buddy.
Well the 2 best measures we have of Trump’s IQ (I don’t trust the dementia test cause he and his doctor could have lied about him scoring perfect) are his performance in debates, where I’d argue he performed +2 SD for his age, and his performance on Howard Stern’s multiplication question where I’d argue he performed -0.33 SD for his age. These are two mental abilities both correlate substantially with g yet very little with one another which makes them ideal for estimating his IQ and if you combine them together you get an IQ of 115 to 120 depending on what assumptions you make.
Trump has a lot of unscripted moments that backfire on him like Palin.
But Trump did much better in interviews than Palin did in my opinion. I think that was the biggest difference.
The difference is, Palin didn’t have a massive propaganda arm behind her
She had a united Republican party which is more than Trump had
and she wasn’t a specifically anti-institutional candidate who has a die-hard cult that will follow her no matter what she says.
Palin was EXTREMELY charismatic and messianic and her followers were incredibly enthusiastic. Perhaps Trump picked a better time to run though because enough time had passed that he could distance himself from the legacy of George W. Bush and social media was overtaking traditional media as the dominant discourse.
Melo: “Similarly, I don’t think I would’ve been able to take over the republican party, and neither could you have. But that doesn’t mean Trump is smarter than us.”
???
melo thinks melo has an IQ bellow 120?
melo must not have good self assessment skills
just because trump is 120 doesn’t mean melo is bellow 120
120 is kinda low actually (myself included)
pp: “when you’re in the top 2% in ANY major cognitive ability, and you’re at least average range in every other major area, then your overall brain power is likely to approach the top 10%.”
I got 140 in information and 130 in figure weights
but I know I am not above 120, not sure?
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Chris Langan say he is 195-210
but you cannot go past 194 on the curve with 8 billion
and he got 42 the first time he took the mega test
The mega test cannot go past 170 (even at a 48 score)
This doesn’t mean he is not above 170 but him not understanding the test only goes so high is not like he would not know what that means exactly. He is exaggerating by alot.
the danger zone 125 to 140 is still something to consider
I meet these people and they think they know everything (think they are never wrong) and look down on others (the guy I talk about on at Langan’s level told me about the danger zone before Langan’s mentioned it)
Langan did say trump was as smart as a Harvard professor.
“melo must not have good self assessment skills”
I don’t know how intelligent I am. Sometimes I feel like a genius sometimes I feel incredibly dumb. It just depends.
My only point was that pointing to someone’s accomplishments and saying, “Look, how else could they have done that unless their IQ was this high!?” is a massive oversimplification. Intelligence is by far not the only indicator of success.
I was 12 when Obama ran for president, so I don’t remember how Palin was.
But yeah, I think a large part of his success was his timing.
I don’t think talking in interviews is really that special. I think he just needs to have moderate intelligence and not be shy.
I don’t think melo has interacted with anyone at IQ 100
In politics you appeal to the base.
That doesn’t mean you are at that level.
Bush IQ was above 120 but they called him stupid as well.
Bush video: i know man and fish can coexist peacefully
https://youtu.be/20Jcrk6jGfo?si=hrjCfVqgKVERk33h
No offense Cat, but you’re not really insightful on these kinds of things.
Appealing to a base is much easier when you think like them. Thinking like them is easy when you’re of a similar intellect.
Very simple logic you seem to not understand.
You confuse personality with intellect melo.
Conservatives have an active right amygdala.
Liberals have an active anterior cingulate cortex.
This in no way changes how smart or dumb you are.
To say all conservatives are dumb is just dumb.
Very smart people have over active amygdala’s or we’d have liberals wining every election because the conservative leaders would all be too stupid to win elections.
If you think all conservative leaders are stupid it be nice if you had proof of this because they keep winning and we’d need another explanation other than intelligence to explain that.
Personality is a much better explanation why people vote as they do than saying conservatives lack intelligence.
See, you’re just proving my point because you don’t even understand what I’m saying.
First, I’m not talking specifically republicans. Americans in general are dumb, so politicians that are of lower intellect are more likely to think like the masses. I think Trump is genuinely stupid and that’s why he’s so charismatic to the normal populace.
Second, personality is heavily intertwined with intellect. Lower IQ people literally think differently than smarter people.
This is the first time in my life I agree with Melo.
Obviously Trump is nowhere near 120 IQ. The guy failed his exams constantly in high school and college. He shows a horrible lack of general knowledge.
The reason Trump sounds charismatic is because he is. But if you put him in a room of people like me or Mugabe and we start asking policy questions, theres no way he can do that sales talk.
Trump is basically a really really good salesman. Top 1% social intelligence.
This is the first time in my life I agree with Melo.
You both agree Trump is dumb but you think he’s a genius socially & that explains his political success. Not what Melo is saying. Melo is saying he’s dumb across the board and since his fans are dumb too, that explains his political success.
The guy failed his exams constantly in high school and college.
Citation needed.
He shows a horrible lack of general knowledge.
Agreed. But I see him more as a case of someone with some kind of educational disability (ADD?) that caused him to avoid book learning and apply his IQ to other things like conning people.
But if you put him in a room of people like me or Mugabe
You mean a home for the mentally disabled?
“See, you’re just proving my point because you don’t even understand what I’m saying.”
You think I am a republican?
I am registered independent and I voted for kamala, that doesn’t mean I think all republicans are stupid. especially not the leaders.
I understand that you don’t want to consider any other options. “Trump stupid period” no matter what I say or pp say. That’s not objective.
“I think Trump is genuinely stupid”
That’s the problem is that in politics you cannot be objective: “because they are on the other side they must all be dumb/stupid/immoral”. So I trust what pp says over you, he does not seem to be as ideologically captured and can be more objective.
You don’t even consider why they win elections if they are stupid. You think all republican leaders are sub 100 IQ – all the liberals should be winning then if they are more intelligent but they don’t. What makes this not happen? (I will explain it if you don’t know, more to do with class than intelligence)
“Second, personality is heavily intertwined with intellect. Lower IQ people literally think differently than smarter people.”
Yes personality has to do with intelligence a little bit. But you are saying all of them are stupid. All the people in that party and all the leaders. Are you even going to attempt to understand how that is not possibly true? (party affiliation is more to do with class and why people gravitate to their class by their personality traits)
Dude, you are genuinely retarded.
There is absolutely no point in talking to you.
I think I have given up on melo
So you think a ‘120 IQ’ person would suggest injecting bleach to ‘cure’ a virus?
That was a pretty stupid comment but we have to balance it out against all the smart things Trump has done like dominating two different fields (media (top game show host) & politics (twice President)). I’m only saying his IQ is 120; Chris Langan goes even further, citing my Harvard research, he argues Trump is smarter than the average Harvard student and has a Mensa IQ of 130+. But you never question Lanagan’s judgement because of your homoerotic worship of high T men:
You think Chris isn’t biased just because super high IQ? He probably privately thinks trump is not great. But in public he boosts trump because like me hes a big fan of ICE and other things like making fun of blacks.
Well his comment about black IQ was clearly biased yet you ran with that.
It wasn’t biased! He was stating objective data. This data is almost 100 years old. In fact it keeps getting worse and worse.
Anyone else think that Kirk got a really punchable face? I think it is not healthy to spread pooptin`s talking points with a punchable face like that.
rare miss. hes like 109 max. hes a high school dropout who got schooled by oxford and other elite students. nowhere near the 120s, please.
He graduated high school I believe, just didn’t get into the college of his choice.
pp,
what do you think of the brains top down control system?
It is used to manage our thoughts and actions by thinking ahead of what might happen and choosing a course of action leading to what we desire.
We learn by emotions what is good and bad at first. Then we imagine what might happen. And last we keep on track or change our plans. When we see that we made an error we stop ourselves and change course.
IQ tests can tell us what amount of information we can have in working memory but tells us little of the processes happening in the brain. How we can remember the steps in our plans and correct them if necessary?
Memory and attention have been studied to understand how we make plans but I cannot find much about it on the internet.
I have some ideas how people can make bigger plans but I don’t do much with it. My designs don’t really have a purpose yet. They would need to happen inside a computer simulation to work.
In my opinion melo is just 115 (the average collage graduate)
He acts like a collage graduate. He still thinks politics is important.
I am not saying that is bad. (I might be 110 but that’s because of my other conditions) but it means certain things he views as important, just makes me think that liberals are really different from conservatives. But higher than average verbal intelligence is not that important. Both are still in the middle of the bell curve. Giving people in society toy problems to fight over.
rr is likely 130 but that doesn’t mean anything. In Marxism the resentful intelligentsia gets the lower classes to fight each other by some propaganda. Class warfare works that way. But as long as the propaganda is ineffective then no one fights. It is ineffective because of abundant resources. As long as people have what they need they don’t fight, people don’t get the propaganda in there heads, see it as a waste of time. Thus the resentful just get more resentful.
Intelligence
biology
genetics
physics
chemistry
feedback loops
homeostasis
brain networks
natural selection
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if you don’t understand the interconnectedness of the interdisciplinary dynamics between all these then you are either stupid or just lying.
calling it all reductionism means you are ignorant, hateful and wrong.
people actually interested in science cannot be fooled by you.
you are on the losing end because regular people can verify all of these themselves.
governments, businesses, everyone who depends on this knowledge rejects whatever propaganda you seek to spread.
because propaganda doesn’t work in reality.
too much is already known in science for that bullshit to take hold.
pp said:
Trump 120
Michael Jackson 135
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I want to know what the difference is?
110 is 1 in 4 (top 25%)
120 is 1 in 10 (top 10%)
135 is 1 in 100 (top 1%)
but what does that mean?
what does it mean they can do?
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“While exact figures fluctuate as new titles are awarded, a good estimate is that less than 1 in 100,000 chess players are Grandmasters. The title is an extremely rare and prestigious achievement, with only around 2,000 players in the world holding the title at any given time out of a global chess-playing population of hundreds of millions.”
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hanayama puzzles levels
I don’t expect grandmaster to really be 164 level in difficulty in these puzzles but maybe something like this:
Depending on time limits I can solve level 6 in less than 10 minutes.
PP once said life is an IQ test.
If that means anything then solving problems to get what you want is dependent on what you want and the problems you face getting them.
How that can be quantized is different than the relative measure of IQ (1 in x people can do this or that problem) rather to be quantized you need a zero point or an average that tells you where the quantity starts.
I was 10 years old when Bill Clinton became president for his second term. What I know about him is not much from watching tv at that time but from clips later on. I have a guess why he is the way he is depending on how you define what is, is.
I think that social intelligence comes from being able to control yourself with executive functions. There is a brain mechanism for this but in the general sense it is about thinking ahead. That means you plan things long into the future opposite of ADHD. You can inhibit actions to delay gratification to get something in the long future.
To inhibit yourself can make self control increase. So you understand what you are doing. In fact you can make yourself able to control the thinking process itself.
pp once said bill Clinton was 170, he also said Nixon was 170 but reduced that to 154. So lets say Bill is 155 in self control for social intelligence.
If Bill Clinton is 155 in self control what would this indicate?
I suppose in executive function terms we could look at planning into the future. Bill gates was richest man on earth for 21 years rand a business. Bill Clinton ran the United States. These might be equivalent. A video I saw said that Bill Gates only hired people with good social intelligence at working together with others not IQ tests. Bill Clinton balanced the budget even if he did not get healthcare done.
So how does long term planning work?
I guess it has to do with an idea and creating the structure around it.
It takes energy to do the little steps but with a goal in mind that is easy.
Self control works by remembering how to get the intermediate goals done.
organization but with tasks that seek to be failsafe
if that requires less impulsivity then a person would need to reduce situations of being overwhelmed and that takes anticipation of those situations you cannot control. avoiding them strategically not immediately or sporadically.
emotions, and any internal process needs a higher awareness of itself
but I do not know exactly the quantization of it all.
Bush, Obama, Nixon, Clinton, Trump, Carter, Regan, Biden, Kennedy.
You can tell some aspects but not others.
Intelligence is something really different?
I cannot do practice SAT tests because I cannot do the word problems fast. But I learns the the study that found IQ did not go up in the 1960s by child intervention dis see Executive function go up. More executive function had better outcomes. Less crime more money better health. Not sure how that relates to tests but I am tiered all the time, get test anxiety. The WISC score was 125 at 12 yo but I had depression making adult scores go to 103. This might be an executive functions problems trying to maintain myself causes stress/bipolar relapses. I am not happy most of the time where I don’t do anything and cannot self regulate. If that were fixed I do better on the tests maybe? Stress as an adult damages parts of the person making them uneven at certain tests items. Like cramps in fingers can make it difficult or bad eyesight or siting posture. All executive in nature somewhat.
Higher executive function and higher intelligence would work together to compensate some problems or others but its a balance depending on the environment where strengths and weaknesses damage people in ways tests don’t or cannot tell you. Thought that can be alleviated.
6 areas of the frontal lobes exist.
In executive function terms updating and maintaining information in working memory requires what is known as “gating”. The manipulation of information is a process of comparison in the overlay of cortical structures. You imagine stuff happening because the information overlaps back and forth. What happens is that a set of patterns is recognized as existing or not existing and that information is stored. Next you forget the information you don’t need and add more information you do need.
This happens by dopamine and other transmitters getting released by successful or unsuccessful thoughts. You either had a thought that worked or you did not and move on to the next thought. This allows you to add thoughts together and comparing them to the outside world. Depending on this gating process thoughts can be big or small because of the pattern recognition combining big or small chunks learning along the way.
It is this internal perception process where people perceive more to plan more. If you are thinking about what to do at a high level it is because you have more options available in thoughts to consider all at the same time. Everything is interconnected of what needs to happen. That is to say coordination makes you more intelligent. Being aware of all it then implementing it to get it done.
The mechanism is quite clear to me except how the brain stores memory.
Memory consolidation is too complex for me to understand at this moment. Having to do with the 6 layer circuit of the neocortex.
Where are my comments?
Maybe palantir intercepted them 🙂
what exactly does melo magically know about rrs beliefs I don’t?
this is why I think he(melo) trolls people
saying random shit that ain’t true.
developmental systems I understand but that doesn’t make dualism true or not true.
rr has always denied simple facts with terms like IQist or reductionist.
he is unwilling to debate in good faith just bad faith (melo approved of it)
This does not mean development is untrue but he denies it has anything to do with what I said. Development happens to the brain and that involves chemistry and genetics and feedback. leading to intelligence.
so what the F is melo talking about?
chemistry is important to genetics and genetics I explained millions of times how that effects development in a chemical way.
why do they have to be trolls about everything?
I made a cool list:
Mostly captures what people can do as who they are like. (not completely)
190 – Indistinguishable from magic
175 – Super Engineers
160 – Advanced Scientists
145 – Proto Uber men (societies top social elites)
130 – Marxists and libertarians (the small intelligentsia)
115 – Science Bro Atheists
100 – The family and religious oriented
sub – believes in zombies
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I still need to have someone look at my titan test attempt.
These tests never go past 170 and I don’t think I got anywhere near that level. I think on the other tests for high IQ that were made to be self administered. We cannot say exactly if they are good. We still need to quantize the tests. Then the relative measure can happen.
Quantizing a test would mean a person can perceive and manipulate a quantity of information. Not doing puzzles exactly but you need an absolute number first.
We grade people by what they can do by what they have learned in a given timeframe. A quantized test would look at the rate of information learned not any particular problem. Solving problems faster you do not have all possible hard problems to solve on the test. Only the information perceived. Working with more information increases the rate of all types problems solving. Yet “General” ability peters out on tests when problems lack generality. These problems on the tests are too specific to go above 150 in generality. Measuring generality and not specificity is hard. The scatterplot wanes out and samples are low.
Long time ago I was told by a 170 guy on the Kurzweil forum that negative space was general intelligence.
Pattern recognition comes in two forms: verbal linguistic and visual spatial
This also has to do with working memory and processing speed.
If you can get a shape to follow a rule (if this then that) then those rules follow a sequence or are simultaneously all together.
There is also analysis and synthesis (breaking apart or putting together)
A general test would not only look at linguistic analysis but also spatial synthesis.
We do not have many good tests for spatial ability because it requires using tools in many combinatorial ways. Legos and Minecraft maybe?
Math is tied to physics but its not phonetic.
Math follows rules but such that it requires huge amounts of computation built up layer by layer.
So getting down all the rules might take time, especially if the rules are random and don’t apply to anything. (why do math if its not for anything?)
Space, is open ended.
What could be done requires generating new solutions.
To get the ball rolling requires resources.
That is to say in the internal sense ideas pop into existence but must be tested. Building castles in the sky can be fun but then getting them out of the head and into reality is different. Creativity combines and combines and combines. But it needs evaluation of what its good for.
IQ tests do not measure creativity. They measure the speed and quantity one can combine. Creativity has many symmetrical and asymmetrical aspects to it. And it happens in thinking. You think about what goes together and then see if it works. The high IQ just know what works off hand and then don’t need to think as much just make it.
Any test can arbitrarily say: this person can combine this fast
But then thinking takes over generating stuff never seen before so cannot be put on the tests ahead of time. Understanding how something works is more important because people create there own systems. And following a system different from your own you will always be left behind.
Thinking then has to become self sustaining to become most productive.
A general intelligence test most likely is impossible without some big data system looking at creativity output. Though we can tests for quantized learning speed. (memorization)
Do you use any statistics modeling software for your job pumpkin?
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How can Obama be 140 if his WISC score was 128?
My WISC score was 125 and it went down to 103?
Does this mean something to do with a confidence intervals?
These tests are correlated with themselves at 0.7 yet outliers exist.
As most tests are done to look for giftedness or mental disability the discrepancy between any test score can vary by 20 points any time you take the test. But I am uncertain what we can infer.
The long term effects of IQ are stable, you gave both around 120 at age 12 and 26 – does this indicate a fluctuation in cognitive resource allocation?
I do not understand how practice effect is involved. What I do should go up. Working memory and processing speed are highly sensitive to depression.
There must be more to it. The subtest measurements changed too much.
Either the instrument itself is affecting the measurement or some independent variables are.
If you ever get the chance can you write an article on this?
About how stability and subtests are sensitive to change at the individual level.
I hear that the WAIS-5 has lots of new data to support this.
How can Obama be 140 if his WISC score was 128?
Cause he also appears to have scored an IQ equivalent of 148 on the LSAT which is arguably an IQ test too, so when people have scores on multiple tests, the most scientific thing to do is calculate their composite score on both of them. As a scientist I can’t cherry pick data.
I think that is what I am asking.
The composite is stable but the subtest are variable.
Subtests go up or down on given dates of administration of a single test but the composite is overall the same.
Would we know why this sensitivity occurs on subtests?
The WAIS-5 has profiles for ADHD and other conditions.
Because a single subtest has at most a few dozen items while the full-scale IQ is calculated from hundreds of items and thus much more reliable.
Obama never posted an LSAT score. He was made president of harvard law review because hes black.
Listening to him talk without a teleprompter i’d say high 120s.
Most of his speeches were written by others btw.
He never posted it but at the library of Congress you can find demographics of who scored high on the LSAT each and apparently there were some blacks from Columbia who scored high the same year Obama took it so someone speculates one of them was Obama, since all the other blacks from Columbia scored below Harvard Law’s high standards even allowing for affirmative action.
That technique is basically reading tea leaves. I would guess at least half the ‘blacks’ that scored high in columbia that year look like Alex Karp
By Puppy’s ‘criteria’ someone becoming famous in reality tv and politics e.g. Sarah palin is a ‘mensa genius’.
Do you even stop to think about what youre saying? You picked 2 super low g loaded fields….
If you said he was number 1 in NASA and number 1 in hedge funds I 100% would agree the guy was a genius.
If you said no.1 in software and no.1 in math olympiad. Same.
Think about what youre saying.
f you said he was number 1 in NASA and number 1 in hedge funds I 100% would agree the guy was a genius.
I’m not arguing Trump is a genius. I’m arguing he’s clever. An IQ of 120 is not stratospheric, it’s top 10%. Think of the smartest old man at the local pub. That’s Trump IQ level.
An IQ of 120 puts him in the top 1% in the world or thereabouts.
There are literally indian street shitters with higher IQs than Donald. I guarantee you that.
You guarantee all kinds of things and never are able to prove any of them. Get over yourself, and fast.
Interesting….
So it appears you’ve never been to a pub either.
Actually maybe not software.
If Trump has ADHD it be best to know which kind he has.
https://www.synapsewellness.com/blog/86436-the-7-types-of-adhd
https://theforgerecovery.com/limbic-add-how-emotions-shape-attention-and-focus/
I’d go with the limbic ADHD for trump because he has mood swings and is rejection sensitive.
Unlike the DSM these 7 kinds of ADHD are not just symptoms but supported by neuroscience. By actually looking inside the brain.
I would be anxious ADHD
Of course these all cross over each other we cannot know for sure about Trump, me or anyone without a scan. But High likelihood emotional problems of ADHD and not a lack of intelligence in Donald Trump.
Also narcissism want people to like them. They do everything they can to be likeable and so rejection hurts alot. Narcissism is not just a name you call people (name calling). It is highly misunderstood just like ADHD. Not all people present the same with this condition. Not all of them are bad people as when people use the word in the pejorative.
Emotional development will effect intelligence but it doesn’t make them stupid. These people, most would still would score high up on IQ tests. Personality is not about being stupid or dumb intellectually, that is a small aspect of what personality is. Personality is all parts of the person. You cannot say a person is stupid just because of emotional problems.
Behavioral studies show that stupidity benefits no one. Stupid people hurt both themselves and others and no one wins. Trump is doing something for the people he works for and that means only half of what he does is bad for some people. Politics always pit groups against each other because different people want different things in opposition. Calling the opposition stupid is common.
Why would a narcissist like Trump get hurt by being rejectec? Do you understand anything about people?
Trump is a classic salesman. If he gets rejected he walks up to the next ‘mark’ and fakes his smile and does his spiel almost immediately. They call him ‘Teflon Don’ for a reason.
Narcissists don’t care what others think about them. Its a dark triad trait for a reason.
I said that it was misunderstood like ADHD is.
You are a very disagreeable person.
I feel like even though Melo is much dumber than Anime, at least I could have a conversation with Melo because hes not neurotype impaired.
I feel like anime has listed the difference in mental abilities every 10 IQ points 40 times over the past year.
Actually i take that back. Melo is neurotype impaired in that hes stupid and will bang on about BLM like puppy and RR and the other religious nuts.
I would rather listen to anime explain the difference in paralelll processing every 10 IQ points than listen to a religious sermon.
ICE ICE BABY
Where is Mugabe?
Last I heard from him he said he would not post until I ban Melo and has made no attempt to comment since. lol
Well then ban Melo dumbass.
No I will not ban Melo. He’s been coming to this blog for over a decade, since he was 18-years-old. I practically raised him!
Pumpkin is basically my dad at this point.
You still taking polling seriously? Trump has a 45% approval rating allegedly.
Want to confess Im right about polling?
Everyone takes polling seriously. You’re the only one schizo enough to think most polls are faked.
No one intelligent takes it seriously. THe polls showed hilary winning easily. That was 10 years ago and youre still banging the ‘they would never’ drum.
Youre talking about high IQ gypsies. Do you think they care about publishing accurate results???
THe polls showed hilary winning easily
And you think this is because the polls were faked, and not say because Hillary did easily win the popular vote but swing states that decide the election are harder to poll, especially when Trump was bringing in so many new voters, many of whom are hostile to elites and don’t talk to pollsters?
More nonsense. Individual states are EASIER to poll than the whole country.
Grok disagrees with you:
National polls are generally more reliable than state polls due to larger sample sizes and simpler demographics, which reduce margins of error. State polls, while critical for understanding swing states, often have smaller samples, higher variability, and challenges with modeling local turnout, making them less precise. However, reliability depends on the pollster’s methodology—reputable firms like Siena or Marist can outperform shoddy national polls. Always check sample size, weighting, and recency for either type.
“National polls are generally more reliable than state polls due to larger sample sizes and simpler demographics,”
You are a proffessional pollster and can’t tell the AI is producing AI slop?
Embarrassing.
LOL! Whatever we’re discussing you accuse me of being a professional in. When we’re discussing economics you accuse me of being a professional economist. When we discuss genetics you accuse me of being a professional geneticist lol. It’s true I know so much about so much, so of course you think I’m a professional in every field.
Social IQ test. Why did Trump publicly accuse Marianne Adelson of being more loyal to Israel than to the U.S.? I’ve seen lots of people analyze this but seen no one get it right yet.
Trump has verbal diarrhea. He once went to a jewish donor conference and said to them out loud ‘you guys know how to control the politicians’ and something like that.
He went on a local radio programme 6 years ago and told the host AIPAC controls the congress and ‘everyone knows it’ (do they? hahaha)
Trump probably understands jews better than any other president in the last 100 years. And I mean, what they really are like behind the word games, ‘science papers’ and the joking….
Trump is probably more terrified of Adelson than any judge, democrat, russia/china or indeed even the cia.
“Social IQ test. Why did Trump publicly accuse Marianne Adelson of being more loyal to Israel than to the U.S.? I’ve seen lots of people analyze this but seen no one get it right yet.”
Trump will have his dumb electorate believe he is America first by faking a criticism of her own financier being Israel first. He gets Jewish money and nationalist credibility at the same time.
he has the cake and eat it too
Trump will have his dumb electorate believe he is America first by faking a criticism of her own financier being Israel first. He gets Jewish money and nationalist credibility at the same time.
Correct. He’s worried that all his Bibi ass kissing has damaged his white nationalist cred, so he’s pretending to be tough on Israel by humiliating Adelson publicly, while still giving her & Israel almost everything they wanted.
2 autistic clowns get it totally wrong as usual. Horrible
Nope, we’re 100% right. My testing shows that Bruno is actually better than you when it comes to left-hemisphere social IQ so he’s better at verbally analyzing social situations than you are. But you’re extremely good at right-hemisphere social IQ (you can see the big picture, but you get the details wrong)
The problem with autism is that you see ‘reasons’ where other people see humans. Free market my ass.
The problem with schiz is you think people who don’t share your delusions are autistic.
?? Bruno literally once said his girlfriend had to tell him to stop staring at people in public and to explain the movie scenes to him because he doesnt understand social action. Hahahaha.
Those are right-hemisphere, non-verbal impairments. I’d expect him to be bad at that. But his left-hemisphere verbal analysis is extremely good.
I remember 10 years ago when trump first ran. A guy at an event walked up to him and asked him about Israel and jews and trump immediately did the ‘israel is america’s greatest ally spiel’.
This ADD guy literally never prepares any speech or any policy but for Israel he has to remember a scripted talking point.
We all know the real reason Mugs left.
He’s intimidated by my towering intellect.
I’m also 8 inches taller than him when I stand on my penis.
But your penis is your head
So has it dawned on you yet that youre the puppet of the bad guy, and Im the good guy?
I wonder if the they will replace that jewish zealot as wonder woman?
Gal Gadot has been doing a serious amount of promotional work for the IDF. I think theres a very strong chance people will boycott her in future movies. Even the jews that run the studios don’t want that look.
Just reading Kamala, Gavin Newsom and Chuck Schumers social media posts about the protests.
Low IQ people like Melo and RR think these puppets are actually on their side.
And not THEIR side lol
What I love about Puppy’s psychological ‘analysis’ is that its like those autistic retards that apply ‘Game Theory’ to everything. Only a fuckin clown would think people mathematically work out fors and againsts in every decision on the spot,
Anyways the neoliberals jumped on ‘Game Theory’ and ‘Rational Behaviour’ to pretend the economic policies of the 1800s are great!
Behavior is rational in the sense that every conscious decision, from whether to scratch an itch, to whether to start a war, is motivated by pleasure seeking/pain avoidance, but IQ limits how accurate your split second calculations are, because intelligence is your ability to adapt whatever situation you’re in to your advantage. In other words, intelligence is the ability to minimize life’s cost/benefit ratio.
And Kirk failed to adapt. He parroted pooptin`s talking points. On the top of it he got a punchable face. Maybe people with punchable faces are not aware that they have punchable faces. He deserves a Darwin award for parroting pooptin`s talking points with a punchable face like that.
The guy was articulate but on the other hand very silly socially.
The reason Pumpkin and I are so superior to everyone is because of our hybrid vigor.
Random blog reader, you too can be a part of this superiority by letting us breed with your white women!