Jon Gotti (aka Dapper Don) and Donald Trump have a lot in common. Both charismatic New York proles who loved media attention; both persecuted by the feds and heroes to the working class man, to the point they were long considered Teflon, though both became convicted felons. Both rose to the pinnacle of cut-throat fields using charm, street smarts, and animal cunning.
Of course Trump was an Ivy League Leader of the Free World, while Gotti was “just” a high school dropout leader of the mob. Trump is worth over $3 billion, while Gotti died with “only” $30 million.
However when you consider that Trump’s father was a Forbes certified 400 richest person in all of America, while Gotti’s dad was a barely employed day laborer living in poverty, then both men were freakishly successful, relative to what they came from.
As I’ve previously noted, welfare or welfare adjacent people like Gotti’s dad average IQs around 92 (about 90 white norms) and given a 0.45 father-son IQ correlation, their sons would upwardly regress to the then U.S. mean of 98, (white norms) and thus average IQs of 96.
Thus when Gotti famously scored 110 on an IQ test before dropping out of high school (white norms since IQ tests were normed on only whites in those days), he scored 14 points above the mean of kids from his economic background.
Meanwhile self-made Forbes 400 types like Trump’s dad average IQs around 131(130 white norms) so their sons would regress downward to the U.S. mean of 98 (white norms) giving a mean IQ of 112. So given that Trump is to his family background as Gotti was to his, how much higher would Trump have scored compared to the mean of kids from his economic background?
Also 14 points?
Trump’s estimated IQ = 112 + 14 = 126 (white norms); 127 (U.S. norms).
Indeed in 2018, Trump’s doctor claimed he scored perfect on a dementia screening test, suggesting an IQ of 126 (white norms). Of course given he hit the test’s ceiling (if you believe the doctor was giving his professional assessment free of intimidation from Trump and his goons) it’s possible his IQ is even higher, though given his tiny active vocab, poor general knowledge, and failure to correctly multiply 17 by 6, I wouldn’t bet on it.
Pumpkin Person 
since when does the wechsler have a “social judgment” subtest?
anyway…the point is there’s no right answer. because:
this is comedy!
solution to the population problem? death penalty for parking violations. — steve martin
and
4. the state imposing SAUDI level punishment is against a yuge current in western politics, libertarianism. the state should be limited, even in doing what’s right, because long history of the state doing so much evil.
No one knows what the Wechsler Comprehension subtest measures but on my Wechsler test analysis it said:
“Practical knowledge & social judgement
Verbal comprehension & understanding
Acquired social judgement”
i mean it’s easy to make a society with almost no “street crime”.
but that’s not a society anyone would want to live in.
and the criminals would be at the top of society. scot free.
in general the question: how is individual liberty balanced with collective welfare is NOT a question on any IQ test. because it’s WAY too hard to answer. but OBVIOUSLY i agree with america’s posh set that in some ways the US has too little government while i agree with the “prole” rich pipo that in some ways america has too much government. it’s a balance. the right left thing is bullshit even if it were authentic, which it is NOT in the US.
nepo baby christian parenti is a great example of someone who sounds dumb at first. but if you warm him up he destroys you(r mangina).
he looks like me! like hillaire belloc! and sounds like what i imagine i sound like. so i’m -partial.
peepee severe mental retardation is off the chain.
hereditists usually draw the opposite conclusion from their retardation from the one peepee-tard claims to make. and so does peepee. but she contradicts herself and lies about it because also evil, not just retarded.
Oprah’s head is bigger than yours: 25.25″ > 24″
And even Scott Adams thinks she has a high IQ
HBDers have a wide range of opinions. Jensen was a liberal, Pill and Lion are Marxists.
But your HBD denial blames racism for black problems, thus allowing racism to eclipse economic issues in the public debate
Do you think that racism (individual or systemic) has any effect on the outcomes of black people?
There is still a lot of racism against blacks but there’s also affirmative action and wokeism which has greatly increased over the last few decades, so blackness is not the social handicap it was in the 20th century. As Bill Clinton said of even the light skinned Barack Obama “ten years ago this guy would have been carrying our bags”
systemic vs institutional racism are VERY NOT the same thing according to parenti, the guy whose video you’re both afraid of watching.
parenti also explains why peepee and rr are SPECIFICALLY the enemy of black people (who are not 99% of people contra peepee-tard).
sad.
Blacks are around 13% of the 99%
Oprah’s head is bigger than yours: 25.25″ > 24″
EXCEPT THAT’S NOT THE SIZE OF OPRAH’S HEAD!
SAD!
No woman would lie about having a pumpkin head.
It was confirmed in Baltimore when her hair fell out after a French perm and they couldn’t find a big enough wig
It was confirmed when they had to sew two wigs together when making THE COLOR PURPLE
It was confirmed by Gene Siskel’s hatter who almost had a heart attack when he measured Oprah’s head
It was confirmed by Gene Siskel mentioning the diameter of Oprah’s hat size which just happens to work out to a circumference of 25.25
Some black women have big heads. Get over it!
It’s been measured six ways to Sunday:
One way in which systemic racism still exists is when it comes to the birth weights of black babies. Black American newborns weigh less than African newborns, and the explanation is racism.
“UO: Unequal outcomeI: InequalityA: AvoidableF: UnfairJ: UnjustE: Empirical investigation
I involves A, F, J. E may reveal instances where I leads to UO and I is associated with F, J, and A.
Premise 1: E -> (A^F^J)
Premise 2: I -> (A^F^J)
Conclusion: E -> ((I -> UO) ^ (A^F^J))
(P1) If empirical investigations (E) reveal instances where avoidable factors (A), unfairness (F) and injustice (J) are present, and (P2) if inequality (I) leads to conditions involving avoidability (A), unfairness (F) and injustice (J), then (Conclusion) empirical investigations (E) could reveal instances where inequality leads to unequal outcomes (UO), and whether or not they are avoidable (A), unfair (F) or unjust (J). Effectively, since inequities are a kind of inequality, then this can identify inequities where they are, and then we can work to fix them.
For instance, birth weight has decreased recently and the effect is more pronounced for black women (Catov et al, 2016) and racism could as well be a culprit (Collins Jr., et al, 2004). There is also evidence that structural racism in the workplace can and has attributed to this (Chantarat et al, 2022). It’s quite clear that racism can explain birth outcome disparities (Dominguez et al, 2010; Alhusen et al, 2016; Dreyer, 2021). Not only does racism contribute to adverse birth outcomes but so too do factors related to environmental racism (Burris and Hacker, 2018). This also has a historical precedent: slavery (Jasienska, 2009). Hereditarians may try to argue that (as always) this difference has a genetic basis. But we know that African women born in Africa are heavier than African American women; black women born in Africa have children with higher mean birth weights than African American women (David and Collins, 1997). Cabral et al (1991) also found the same—non-American black women birthed children that weighed 135 more grams than American black women. Thus, the difference isn’t genetic in nature—it is environmentally caused and it partly stems from slavery. Clearly this discussion shows that my argument has a real-world basis.”
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2024/02/07/strategies-for-achieving-racial-health-equity-an-argument-for-when-health-inequalities-are-health-inequities/
black women born in Africa have children with higher mean birth weights than African American women
Probably because only the elite African women come to America and give birth. They are not genetically typical of the average black Africa woman.
The comparison is between American-born black women and African-born black women. The finding replicates.
birthweight in nigeria: “The mean birth weight of the 253 infants in the study was 2472grams. ”
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272458374_The_birth_weight_of_apparently_healthy_Nigerian_newborns_in_Sokoto
A sample of black American women in Pennsylvania (2007 to 2011):
mean 3,233 g (SD 439 g)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4690476/ table#1
“African-born” in that study refers to women who came to America from West Africa. The data in the cited papers point to African American women birthing babies that have lower birth weight than African babies.
But African born women who come to America are not a random sample of African women. They are a genetic elite and thus have heavier babies.
RR is ridiculous here. He thinks that high IQ Asians are selected but robust African immigrants could not be for some reason? If a study shows that most second-generation immigrants regress to the mean on IQ or something else, does that also imply racism, even if they’re White immigrants? RR would say “hmm, maybe” but then never look into it because of his agenda I think.
RRs agenda is cartoonish.
If it would objectively make the world a better place to mind control all other races into believing in blacks i might be for it. But that’s not the case.
Define “genetic elite”, then prove your claim. The issue for you here is that a genetic hypothesis predicts the opposite of what is observed. PP, you should know that we want to know what the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN black American women and women BORN IN West Africa is regarding the birth weight of their children. Therefore, it is imperative to have this done in America—and it’s been replicated. Jasienska discusses the issue of slavery and birth weight at length in her book.
RtM can be explained non-genetically. And that’s funny, since hereditarians try to explain away facts against their hypothesis by using hyper-selectivity but NOT arguing the same for Asians. Curious…
PP, you should know that we want to know what the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN black American women and women BORN IN West Africa is regarding the birth weight of their children.
Then we need a representative sample of women born in Africa and immigrants are not.
And that’s funny, since hereditarians try to explain away facts against their hypothesis by using hyper-selectivity but NOT arguing the same for Asians. Curious…
Hyper-selection occurs when everyone wants to leave their country to move to a richer one, causing extreme competition. East Asian countries are already rich so there’s less of that.
Yeah, but don’t the best asians come here because of our schools?
And the cited references show just that – it’s the comparison we want for what we want to know. Nevermind the exhaustive argument that Jasienska made in her book citing large bodies of research in slavery and birth weight/length. Again—the genetic hypothesis predicts THE OPPOSITE of what is observed. Kill-shot.
That’s not what hyper-selectivity is.
No if they’re going to compare black immigrants with black Americans, they need to compare the immigrants to elite black Americans, because the immigrants were elites in their home countries (on average) and we know that birth weight is correlated with social class independently of race and nation.
“RtM can be explained non-genetically. And that’s funny, since hereditarians try to explain away facts against their hypothesis by using hyper-selectivity but NOT arguing the same for Asians. Curious…”
It doesn’t matter what they think, I’m just explaining your hypocrisy on thinking hyper-selectivity accounts for IQ but not birth weight, as if birth weight couldn’t somehow be selected for by immigration.
“If it would objectively make the world a better place to mind control all other races into believing in blacks i might be for it. But that’s not the case.”
I agree because I don’t believe in blank slatism or a communistic style “ability to account for every environmental variable to create equality of opportunity” type of developmental systems theory that RR does.
“Then we need a representative sample of women born in Africa and immigrants are not.”
RR’s communication style is so weird in how he seems to ignore simple things like this does yet is still knowledgeable about other specific things he’s interested in. (That makes sense kinda but many of us are more spread out in our interests and commentary)
Even a newer (2020) study shows the same—women born outside of America (“Hispanic” and black) have heavier children than American-born, but that the “weight advantage” dissappears after 1 generation. Hmmm I wonder what the cause could be… Also, due to what you stated PP, then citing a study of Nigerians and a study of black American Pennsylvanians isn’t relevant—what is relevant are the 3 studies I cited which find the same thing—which contradicts the hereditarian (gene-based) hypothesis on this matter.
Lurker, I already explained the rationale—we’re looking at the difference between black American and black immigrant women and the birth outcomes they have, and so we need to look at what happens under first-world conditions.
So studies are only relevant when they fit your narrative?
Of course I have a lot of questions of how they ruled that racism was the likely cause (environmental or intentional), whether the birth weights actually decreased more in blacks, whether that is the fault of anyone but the black community’s choices, whether black outcomes tend to be genetically predisposed to being impacted more in certain ways by the environment that is unrelated to racism, whether anti-racism laws or efforts will even help (lol), and more…
But ignoring genetics/heredity, you rule out free will and assume that the selective immigrants weren’t simply overachievers in various ways due to their mindset that overcame their environment, in both Hispanics and Africans, and once a generation passed their children would regress to the free will mean. Don’t you think an actual fair study would involve comparing overachieving Africans in their own countries vs. the ones who emigrate and their children, rather than the emigrating ones with their children in the US vs. average Africans in the US? It’s like you’re trying to miss the point here.
Or another interesting idea to ponder: If we are to extrapolate African immigrant weights as the average for Africans (even though the data PP cited showed otherwise) to show racism in the US… wouldn’t that mean that Western countries who give endless aid, technology, education, healthcare, and missionary work to Africa and South America are actually defeating racism by producing the possibility big babies in even third-world countries?
Replicated findings are relevant.
“how they ruled that racism was the likely cause (environmental or intentional)”
I think racism is an independent effect of LBW and VLBW, but no matter if it’s individual or systemic racism (the latter claim I cited references in support for), the claim is that slavery and malnourishment are why black American babies weigh less.
We know that the higher weights of black african babies disappears after one generation. And the comparisons between black American and African born women’s children is to see what happens under first-world conditions, and we see lower birth weights for black babies of American mothers. That tells us something.
And I do think that aid to Africa is a good thing. We know that monetary aid along with family planning decreases birth rates. Overall, the point is that racism—both historical and current—have effects on the birth weights of black American babies.
as i’ve said a bajillion times…
systemic racism has nothing to do with race. NOT today in the US. it has everything to do with culture.
when blacks are discriminated against this is REALLY for things like:
luhhhteeesha from the ghetto = joe-bob from appalachia
IT’S CLASSISM. NOT RACISM!
WOKE IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.
WOKE NEEDS TO BE PUT IN THE GULAG!
Autism on steroids. They’re not discriminating against black names, they’re discriminating against black people. If the name were Tyrone, but then a white guy walked into the office, they’d immediately pull Tyrone’s job application out of the garbage. Even a white guy who acts totally ghetto like Eminem would be more likely to get hired than a black looking black guy from the suburbs in the absence of affirmative action, wokeness and DEI.
^^^autism on HGH, BGH, and stanozolol^^^
sad!
the discrimiation IS against black names and black accents which are NOT shared by all blacks because NOT racial traits.
my name tyrone leroy washington i’m applyin’ uh be a cuhpooter programmuh n shit.
vs
my name is bob jones i’m applying for the computer programmer position.
both black. ONLY one is discriminated against!
DUH!
CLASS! CLASS! BABY!
Being black is the golden ticket. Mugabe and puppy are both wrong. There’s racism alright. It’s against gentiles.
if you’re black they make you vp even if you can’t talk and dropped out first in the primary and you have latent schiz.
if a white guy dropped out first with less than 1% polling. His career would be dead.
same with the banks, government and law firms and so on. If you’re black they literally rent out a limo to take you to work every morning and pray constantly you don’t act out and they need to fire you. You can literally pinch your ceos ass as a black and get away with it.
if you’re black they make you vp even if you can’t talk
She talked well enough to win the debate against Trump
if a white guy dropped out first with less than 1% polling. His career would be dead.
If a black guy were a convicted felon who was accused of raping dozens of women his career would be over, but when it’s a white guy like Trump, I guess all those women must be lying.
same with the banks, government and law firms and so on. If you’re black they literally rent out a limo
And yet despite being 13% of America, blacks are 37% of the prisoners, less than 1% of the Forbes 400, and before 2013, there had never been more than 1 black U.S. senator at a time. Now most of this can be explained by HBD but perhaps part of it is explained by anti-black racism.
That conviction was a total stitch up. Those women were paid to accuse him. If you don’t get that you have autism.
Blacks have the opposite of racism. They gain from magic negro cultism. You can literally see management and hr sigh in relief when a black hire doesn’t go on the rampage or even just do the basics of any job competently.
if a black is even 30% competent they get promoted straight to senior management in a non technical role obviously.
If I was black I would have been sacked zero times. Maybe I’d be a director or senior manager.
That conviction was a total stitch up. Those women were paid to accuse him. If you don’t get that you have autism.
All 26 were paid? Trump didn’t sexually assault any of them? He’s on tape admitting he grabs women by the pussy. You think a black candidate could have got away with half this shit?
Blacks have the opposite of racism.They gain from magic negro cultism.
What percentage of blacks benefit from that? Again, blacks are 14% of America, but 41% of death row inmates, 45% of homeless families with children, never more than 1% of the Forbes 400, seldom more than 1% of Fortune 500 CEOs, prior to 2013, there was never more than 1 black in the U.S. senate at a time
Now maybe these are lagging indicators, and over the next 10 years we’ll see the effects of wokeness causing these numbers to rapidly improve, but at least for now, blacks are barely doing as we’d expect based on IQ, suggesting anti-black racism is still a factor
It’s almost ridiculous to talk about whether blacks or Whites are more discriminated against in Western countries (by Western we mean modern globohomo consumerist usury countries), because neither would have human rights in a West African country. Clearly human rights were created and sustained by Whites. How much of that is by accident of genetic endowment or environment, or by the wills and sacrifice of Whites themselves is up for debate, but obviously, it’s something only Whites have accomplished and given their ability to repeatedly create such societies, they certainly seem to deserve all of the credit either way.
So it’s kind of a moot point.
Lol. Poor black people and poor white people have different cultures. Poor white people have a WAY easier time with social mobility.
It’s not just the differences in culture that cause discrimination it’s the perception of race itself. Being black itself can cause someone to stereotype that black person.
That’s why the idea of being “colorblind” is made fun of. It’s so heavily ingrained into our society it’s inescapable. My criticism is that from a PRACTICAL standpoint it’s probably better to just be colorblind. Because I believe that it will eventually negate those ingrained biases.
Oprah did a show with a guy who went under cover as a black guy and was shocked by all the racism he experienced.
Of course Mug of Pee and Pill will dismiss his experiment because he’s Jewish:
Melo, poor whites are more likely to live in richer neighborhoods than middle-class blacks, as well.
Because their iq isn’t 60 rr and they don’t have an urge to punch someone randomly from the T.
Everything on Oprah is a lie. They dumped all the videos showing magic negros treatment. 1 video doctored by a jew makes it seem like people are acting racist. That gets a 5 episode arc.
the 3 of you clowns have low iqs so thinking analytically is impossible. It’s like talking to children.
Nothing from that Oprah show was a lie, but keep in mind that Oprah show aired in 1995; things are presumably better today
Pill is the most openly racist person I have ever seen, and yet he doesn’t have the the theory of mind to know that other people are racist too. I can’t speak for what it’s like today but when I was in high school I had a black friend and anytime I walked into a store with him we were followed, scrutinized or otherwise made to feel unwelcome. It was so uncomfortable and unlike anything I had ever experienced when shopping alone or with white or Asian friends.
Meanwhile Oprah discusses the racism she’s experienced at stores:
Of course it’s hard to discuss this stuff with pill because it you mention anti-black racism, he thinks you must be denying HBD and the magic negro effect. Multiple things can be true at once.
In fact the reality of HBD CAUSES even more anti-black racism, and so over the decades, affirmative action and wokeism has become increasingly stronger to compensate. Some would argue that the pendulum has now swung so far, that it’s almost an advantage to be black in America but if so, that’s only been true very recently.
If you think my IQ is 60 then it’s highly likely that your IQ is 60.
“they don’t have an urge to punch someone randomly from the T.”
Dumbass, do I need to refute this again? Do you even understand the implications and entailments of what I said?
“Pill is the most openly racist person I have ever seen . . .”
Alas, I have been forgotten in my absence . . .
it’s interesting jews will hire blacks for tv shows and advertising and government.
when it comes to their own hedge funds or finance jobs where you can’t be carried….
basically george soros has never hired a black person for his hedge fund. You can quote me on this.
it’s interesting jews will hire blacks for tv shows and advertising and government
Because elites want blacks to be the public face of power allowing the real decision makers to escape scrutiny. In the U.S. elite blacks are the buffer class to shield the true elite from the angry white masses, just like in South Africa, Coloured and Indians were the buffer class that stood between the white elite and the angry black mob.
They don’t want blacks anywhere near finance because that’s where the real power is but because of freakishly large brain, Oprah was able to make the leap from talent for hire to America’s first multibillionaire black and White House king maker.
if I see a black cv…straight to the bin. All the accomplishments are dei. Secret criminal convictions. Etc
LMAO, who is giving this dumbass CVs?
No one. He can’t even hold a job. And yet he thinks if he were black he’d be promoted every month. I say get a tan and some dreadlocks and find out. You only need a splash of black to be considered black. There are also pills that darken the skin.
“And yet he thinks if he were black he’d be promoted every month.”
PP, I’ve worked for two companies that consistently promoted blacks above ability level.
My black supervisor at my previous job was incapable of using Excel for doing anything other than making checklists and inventories. The woman was completely unaware of the most basic windows keyboard shortcuts. I had to teach her how to take – and send – a screenshot.
One of the other black supervisors wrote in English so broken that you would have taken him for a high-grade moron.
I feel ya. I had to teach Mug of Pee how to do a screen shot too. Painful. As Jordan Peterson said, if your IQ is too low for your job (or your hobby in Mug of Pee’s case), not only will you be miserable, but you’ll make everyone around you miserable too.
I then had to relearn how to do a screen shot when I got a chromebook. Mug of Pee thinks Performance IQ is only good for sandwich making but so important across the board, and that’s one of the reasons for the backlash against Israel. Jews can no longer control the narrative in the digital age because their Performance IQ is only 96.
“As Jordan Peterson said, if your IQ is too low for your job (or your hobby in Mug of Pee’s case), not only will you be miserable . . .”
Definitely.
“Mug of Pee thinks Performance IQ is only good for sandwich making but so important across the board . . .”
My P.I.Q. is probably a full standard deviation below my verbal I.Q.. I have a very Jewish cognitive profile.
“Jews can no longer control the narrative in the digital age because their Performance IQ is only 96.”
Pilpul doesn’t exactly lend itself to meme culture.
peepee makes great burgers.
I feel ya.
once again peepee admits she’s black to one of her sockpuppets.
peepee is an NOI nigga.
cool!
which commenter communicates most in pictures and vids?
mugabe.
don’t hate the playa!
jordan peterson’s IQ is too low for his job.
just sad!
if jordan peterson said that then he is LITERALLY RETARDED.
but all non-retarded pipo already knew that. sad.
EVERYONE’s IQ is too low for his job.
it’s called the peter principle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle
“once again peepee admits she’s black to one of her sockpuppets.”
Do you mean to say that I’m the Tony Clifton to PP’s Andy Kaufman?
Your cultural references are flying 30,000 feet above Mug of Pee’s oversized head.
priest: the power of christ commandds you!
peepee: oprah’s head is 25.5″ around. [spews green vomit]
priest; the power of christ commands you!
peepee: let oprah fuck you! let oprah fuck you!
sad.
systemic racism also occurs in a form which is not blameworthy. this is problem with the word “racism”. it’s a pejorative.
the modern organization is artificial. it’s working with strangers. strangers will learn more about. but will never know well. unless office romance.
then you throw into that a visible minority. and a visible minority you’re afraid of offending.
then when you have to choose between two equally qualified candidates you just don’t want the headache and the even greater strangeness at work so you go for the candidate who is most like you.
but the way to end this sort of discrimination is government insisting on objective criteria for hiring and promotion. it’s NOT quotas and dei. that just makes the problem WORSE.
and this “i prefer to work with people who are most similar to me and sometimes that means people who look like me” is not specific to wypipo.
i was hired by that co in LA i mentioned into an office of 2 taiwanese and 2 chinese americans and one very sexy half jewish girl.
the half jewish girl told me she felt uncomfortable before i arrived because she was the only caucasoid in the office.
just more wyracism?
no! why was the office 4 chinese and one caucasoid in the first place? was it just chance? or was it the chinese preferred to work with chinese?
criminal organizations? organizations outside the law?
cosa nostra supposedly is like the SS. 50%, 75% is not enough. must be 100% italian to be made.
is italian organized crime unique in this respect?
iirc japanese organized crime has lots of koreans. but is their rank limited?
rr is in part totally correct about the equity vs equality distinction.
for example:
math is not racist. there is a standard to which all may be held as far as proficiency in mathematics goes.
BUT…
the idea that the same curriculum and methods of education will maximize this OBJECTIVE standard is RETARDED.
rr: the height of mt everest doesn’t matter.
mugabe: you LIE! it DOES matter! what doesn’t matter is what route you took to climb it!
my experience in school was the rich black kids were the popular kids. the poor black kids were the unpopular kids. like president of the class and prom king popular vs laugh at them unpopular.
but that’s just my experience. and the rich black kids and poor black kids were like 6 kids.
I saw some study or article awhile back that showed or implied that black men are viewed as generally more unnattractive on average but the most attractive ones are viewed as particularly attractive. Or maybe I’m confusing it with “masculine men”. That would make sense, since the average masculine man is probably a laborer and viewed as a poor pleb while the top masculine men are wealthy guys who are also physically strong or imposing.
Its very complicated but generally black men are the most attractive to a certain chunk of women. As in these women will fall to their knees for blacks.
R selection and k selection applies to sexual taste, menstrual cycles, and other dynamics like responding to violence or group dynamics.
Essentially if you were to pick your race and you really really only cared about getting laid, you pick black man.
^^^WHY WON’T STEVE SAILER TALK ABOUT GAZA?^^^
“. . . but the most attractive ones are viewed as particularly attractive”
If this were the case, there would probably be more black models and movie stars. Attractive white women would date black men, which never happens in reality unless the black male in question is very wealthy.
“Its very complicated but generally black men are the most attractive to a certain chunk of women.”
The only white women I’ve known that dated black men were ugly, trashy, or victims of domestic violence. They didn’t prefer black men, they were just too low-quality to have any better options. The situation is precisely analogous to low-tier (usually black) men who pretend to like fat chicks in order to save face.
and the US has taken the individual liberty thing way too far in economic matters BUT is the greatest country in the world on free speech and it’s not even good. that’s how shitty the rest of the world is.
this is where the confederate vs yankee thing contradicts the official ideology.
blacks are so dense in the former confederacy there’s nothing strange about working with black people. one of my mom’s cousins ran an industrial distributor with a black partner. he’s the only person i know who’s actually read all of Rememberance of Things Past. but he had a very thick accent. like very.
and remember when galileo was convicted of heresy he said:
and yet is jews.
and steve sailer is a jew.
don’t punch a nazi.
love a nazi.
give a nazi a hug.
jimmy dore, assorted morons: gaza chirren are dying from malnutrition. mass starvation. it’s the holodomor gaza edition.
mugabe: that can only be true if their parents are satanists. an adult human can handle zero calories for at least a month and zero protein for way longer. if palestinian chirren are dying it’s because their parents are satanists.
This might be the dumbest comment mugabe has ever said, including denying hbd and saying jesus is god.
does cannibalism always accompany famine?
if there are no reports of cannibalism does that mean the reports of famine are false?
the death toll hasn’t budged since pipo started saying famine.
very strange.
almost as strange as pill being irish.
sad.
that is they’ve abandoned their children or are eating their children’s food.
but it may be the children who are starving are too young to eat. or too young to eat what is available. and their mothers can’t make milk and there is no formula.
Or maybe their mothers are dead like 30,000 other Palestinians
i don’t believe in the holodomor 10 million or the 20 million soviets killed in ww ii either.
people don’t just die. and parents don’t just let their children die or let orphans just die.
people have been saying there will be a famine in gaza from almost the beginning yet the death toll has been stuck at 40k.
wtf? where’re all the corpses?
Lmao.
Mugabe is a philosemitic cuck
^^^LITERALLY RETARDED^^^
all i could find was by march, 27 had starved to death and 23 of them were children according to aljazeera, a source i assume is biased toward the palestinians.
were they infants? idk.
but that is NOT the way famine works!
NOT!
pill: israel is deliberately starving 2 million people and has succeeded in starving to death 27 people, 23 of whom were children.
mugabe: gay. sad.
Ever consider making the background of your blog darker?
Why? That would make it harder to read since the print is black
Lol
I actually think the blog is fine with the color, it’s just organized weirdly and boring with the design.
I’m not sure how it looks on the mobile app. On Desktop it’s just bleeding eye bright white with thin black text.
Vance has a much higher social IQ than Trump. You can tell because he was able to actually make himself look like a normal person during the debate despite being just as evil, if not more so, than Trump.
Trump is just funny. And his IQ is very low. (Although probably higher than average) so he says things that are relatable to the average retard.
but sadly you are not just the average retard. you are a super retard. so trump is over your head. sadly. sad.
“Vance has a much higher social IQ than Trump.”
There’s no such thing as ‘social intelligence’. Anyone who isn’t a mongoloid idiot can read people and make chit chat.
This is particularly true of women. Think of the staggeringly moronic bullshit that women say at parties, conferences, etc.. No one ever calls women ‘socially retarded’, just ugly/fat/annoying.
‘Social intelligence’ = physical attractiveness + extroversion – autism
“Anyone who isn’t a mongoloid idiot can read people and make chit chat.”
Some people are better at that than others. therefore Social intelligence exists.
Non sequitur.
The world’s most proficient face reader is about as skilled as the world’s best dildo cleaner. It ain’t rocket surgery.
Attractive people (esp. women) can say nearly anything and be considered good conversationalists. A line that would get me charged with sexual harassment would get Brad Pitt (or his zoomer counterpart) laid.
Attractive people (esp. women) can say nearly anything and be considered good conversationalists.
Not really. Plenty of attractive people have tried to hosting talk shows and failed. Good looks will get you an audience, but you need social and verbal IQ to maintain it.
A line that would get me charged with sexual harassment would get Brad Pitt (or his zoomer counterpart) laid.
Well when you’re +4 SD in looks, you can be autistic and get laid every night.
“Non sequitur.”
Lol, you don’t know what that phrase means.
“The world’s most proficient face reader is about as skilled as the world’s best dildo cleaner. It ain’t rocket surgery.”
You also just don’t get the point. Must be low IQ.
“Lol, you don’t know what that phrase means.”
It’s a sentence, not a phrase. It means, “It does not follow”, or, “It follows not”. Unfortunately for you, I’m a student of Latin. Do you even know what a deponent verb is?
“You also just don’t get the point. Must be low IQ.”
I’m a member of the Glia Society, you inane little shit.
“Not really. Plenty of attractive people have tried to hosting talk shows and failed. Good looks will get you an audience, but you need social and verbal IQ to maintain it.”
One has to be sufficiently intelligent to engage with the other party, sure. Do you think that Bob Hope was some kind of genius? Carson?
“Well when you’re +4 SD in looks, you can be autistic and get laid every night.”
I could have made the contrast less extreme without compromising my point – one which you know to be correct.
“It’s a sentence, not a phrase.”
No, it’s a phrase. When it’s is used in English, it is no longer understood in terms of its Latin grammar (subject + verb). Instead, it functions as a noun phrase.
Regardless, Grammar Nazism is also correlated with having a low IQ. Just look at Mugabe.
You understood what I meant, right? You think being pedantic makes you look smart?
“I’m a member of the Glia Society, you inane little shit.”
Looks, like the Glia society just lets any dumbass into their group, huh?
You literally don’t get the point. You’re not even attempting to understand. Do you actually believe people’s ability to judge intentions, be empathetic, and prescribe a set of beliefs to someone, is something that has little to no variance in the population?
Glia society (lol), what’s the argument that social intelligence doesn’t exist? How do you define the term?
https://www.facebook.com/reel/3719029991715173
Must be PP’s brother
Teffec, u are mostly wrong about Pete’s gayness. He dresses conservatively, he is probably a top (considering how effeminate his spouse is), has been a soldier and u can barely guess he’s gay by his voice/body language. He’s not Rick Hudson gay, but he’s far from most of the gay guys I know.
None of these is good or bad, of course. I mean, fighting for a stupid USA war is bad, but not in the gayness level context.
You can’t say his IQ is very low yet higher than average. That’s like saying someone is short when they’re 6’ tall.
Unless you’re implying that his IQ is low for a politician, but unfortunately, that clearly isn’t the case either. No Presidential candidate in the past 8 years has a clearly higher IQ than him except for Yang, Cruz, and Buttigieg imo.
It’s relatively low.
And I completely disagree with your second paragraph.
Bootygay isn’t high-I.Q., you’ve just been conditioned to associate posh effeminacy with intelligence.
Peter Puffer is definitely high-IQ. He is gay, though.
And I don’t mean, “oh, he’s attracted to other men” gay. That’s whatever.
This guy is, “pose in a birthing bed with my husband after adopting black infants” gay.
Like.. extraordinarily gay.
But he’s smart. Just “shameless careerist” smart.
Forgot about Vivek
mugabe proven right for the bajillionth time:
Some 4.5 million were affected and survived thanks to soup kitchens. Loe de Jong (1914–2005), author of The Kingdom of the Netherlands During World War II, estimated at least 22,000 deaths occurred due to the famine.[1] Another author estimated 18,000 deaths from the famine.[2][3] Most of the victims were reportedly elderly men.[4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_famine_of_1944%E2%80%931945
most of the victims old men is what one should expect because:
in other words…
when a bunch of dutch pipo were starving the pipo who died from starvation were the pipo who got the least food because they were the people who SHOULD have gotten the least food.
AND it was 18,000 out of 4.5 million. NOT 27 out of 500k. 0.4% vs 0.0054%. and 23 of the 27 were children. it’s BULLSHIT!
melo is incapable of seeing any FACT or LIE apart from the SIDE it supports. because literally retarded. this is why the philippines is a shithole.
it’s also possible these starvation deaths were related to disease.
when the camps were liberated there were all these starving people. and so many corpses of starved people. and it was assumed the germans had done this on purpose. but there were two other factors:
For months, the Hamas terrorist group and pro-Palestinian activists around the world have been claiming that the Gaza Strip is facing an imminent famine and accusing Israel of deliberately starving Palestinians. Yet this scenario never materialized.
Those claims were rarely questioned, and instead were uncritically repeated by far too many pliable news media outlets in Canada and beyond, which jettisoned their journalistic integrity in favour of an easy narrative.
the CAANADIAN newspaper which said this is owned by an american hedge fund which was founded by a mr anthony melchiorre.
jewish? maybe. melchior is a hebrew name.
like 75% of italian american men are named anthony. and the interwebs says “melchiorre” is just an italian name.
even though melchior is a hebrew name.
but john davidson rockefeller not a jew.
“davidson” is not a jewish surname even though “david” is obviously a jewish name.
how is a famine any different from the titanic disaster?
who died in the titanic disaster?
or maybe i’m just being a cultural imperialist?
^^^you might see class structure in the above^^^
but unlike melo i can see that the class of the passengers may have effected their probability of survival BECAUSE where they were on the boat. something which had been determined BEFORE the distaster.
not just because “get out of my way you poor person. my life is more important than yours. that lifeboat is mine! and the crew will help me!”
“the crew will help me” thing is the worst reason. the crew sank.
but unlike melo i can see that the class of the passengers may have effected their probability of survival BECAUSE where they were on the boat. something which had been determined BEFORE the distaster.
It’s affected, not effected.
X affected Y = X had an effect on Y
X effected Y = X caused Y to happen or to be the case
Why not just say “caused”? Inefficient brain effects inefficient behavior. You couldn’t adapt, so you turned the situation around to your disadvantage by typing too many syllables. Low IQ = high cost/benefit ratio.
very confusing to pipo whose native language is some dialect of shithole.
sad.
^^more low IQ behavior
It’s kind of crazy that he’s a grammar nazi and also a regular nazi.
melo personality: mugabe is a philosemitic cuck nazi.
remember the old days when all the commenters weren’t peepee?
those were great.
caused and effected are NOT synonyms.
^more low IQ behavior.
You’re the one who said they were synonyms:
“X effects Y = C causes Y, brings about Y.
the AN is important.
if X effects Y it is not one of many causes which together effect Y. it is a SUFFICIENT cause. sufficient UNTO ITSELF.
if X affects Y it is always one of many things which affects Y”
i have a set of questions which will determine beyond a shadow of a doubt whether pill is peepee and if not peepee whether pill is irish.
commence questionnaire!
STOP questionnaire until answers.
questionnaire will be resumed if first four questions answered correctly.
If you think she is monkey, then she needed an even bigger brain to adapt to such a racist environment & turn it around to her advantage ESPECIALLY way back in the 1980s
If you think she is monkey
just more literally retarded psychopath shit.
i NEVER said she was a monkey.
and looking like a monkey is not the same as being a monkey.
wtf is wrong with you?
oh right i forgot. you’re retarded.
sad.
Looking is not the same as being, but you’re also constantly repeating pill’s mantra that aesthetics don’t lie, so how do we know you haven’t expanded the definition of ape to include all tropical hominoids, even human ones?
Associating blacks with monkeys is the most extreme racial stereotype and how anti-black racism is operationalized in some scientific studies. I wonder how you would have scored compared to HBDers on a chronometric test of subconscious racial bias:
“The research took place over six years at Stanford and Penn State under Eberhardt’s supervision. It involved mostly white male undergraduates. In a series of studies that subliminally flashed black or white male faces on a screen for a fraction of a second to “prime” the students, researchers found subjects could identify blurry ape drawings much faster after they were primed with black faces than with white faces.
The researchers consistently discovered a black-ape association even if the young adults said they knew nothing about its historical connotations. The connection was made only with African American faces; the paper’s third study failed to find an ape association with other non-white groups, such as Asians.”
Why doesn’t Oprah adapt and be lean?
Your tummy is telling you to eat? Just adapt!
All of the money she made entertaining housewives and she can’t pay people to feed her nutritious food and to train her hard?
Just burn more calories than you consume, Big O! It’s easy if you can adapt.
she is thin now
Oprah used her intelligence to go from the bottom 10% in looks for her age, to the top 0.1%
And her hair is not a wig.
Even Jimmy Dore worships Oprah’s hair:
it is quite telling that italian organized crime organizations are referred to as “families”. not as companies. or gangs. or corporations. the one exception is the chicago outfit.
libertarians are gay and retarded and have manboobs, but they’re right that all government begins as gangsterism.
but it flies over their head at thirty thousand feet that the family and the extended family is the best basis for legitimate government.
the cannibalism thing was not a joke. it’s been documented so many times.
and for weterners “cannibalism” includes eating dogs.
it’s satanic but if it’s you or your dog or both, you kill your dog and eat him…and if you pre-decease your dog, he will eat you and feel no guilt. and he shouldn’t.
yes…it’s an interesting phenomenon how the oldest domesticated animal by far, the dog, has become human for westerners and some others such that eating them is the moral equivalent (or worse) of cannibalism…
and how cannibalism is thing which existed as little as 50 years ago, but i expect doesn’t exist anywhere today. not even in the amazon. not even in irian injaya.
effect
verb[ T ]
formal
uk /ɪˈfekt/us /əˈfekt/
to achieve something and cause it to happen
santoculto hasn’t died from AIDS yet. he comments sometimes on unz. so i guess peepee did ban him. sad.
I never banned him. He chose to leave.
a native speaker, unlike peepee in the case of english, may investigate.
X affects Y = X has AN effect on Y
X effects Y = C causes Y, brings about Y.
the AN is important.
if X effects Y it is not one of many causes which together effect Y. it is a SUFFICIENT cause. sufficient UNTO ITSELF.
if X affects Y it is always one of many things which affects Y.
mugabe’s point was once class-ism is excluded position on the boat should be the only factor.
peepee might say IQ was also a factor due to the correlation between IQ and class.
you can see that half the third class passengers were in the worst part of the boat. but those is steerage were in the best.
BUT this may’ve also been an issue of communication. the iceberg was struck at 11:40 pm when a lot of people would’ve been asleep. especially people who didn’t have access to entertainment like the people in third class. this was before radio and tv. so the first who got the message were the roues of first class. and this means they were “first in line” for the lifeboats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joughin
No one cares
<i>mugabe’s point was once class-ism is excluded position on the boat should be the ONLY factor.
native speakers pronounce the two verbs the same unless they’re trying to emphasize they mean “effect” in which case they will say “eeffect”.
this is also the case for “affect” the noun. it is pronounced differently from “affect” the verb, but sometimes the verb is pronounced like the noun.
uhffect vs æffect
so i could say “oprah uhffected or oprah æffected an accent which is NOT her native accent.” i would say æffected so as not to confuse dumb pipo.
my native speaker hackles went up at my own typo-solecism.
one of many things which affectS Y = UN-grammatical
one of many things which effects Y = grammatical
so affect vs effect is a singular vs plural thing. peepee should write this up and publish it in a journal of anal philosophy. sad. MIT has gone so anal that it has no philosophy dept. it just has a dept of linguistics and philosophy. NERD!
anyway…english is like capablanca. it is a DECEPTIVELY simple language. among the EASIEST languages to learn. maybe the EASIEST. but maybe the HARDEST to master. and this because or is reflected by british classism, which has been exported to the american south but not to canada or the antipodes.
It gives me some hope for the future that English majors, lawyers, etc. still take grammar and citations very seriously—almost to a fault.
But maybe that’s only because those fields haven’t yet lost their white/Jewish sensibility.
Precision is a very white thing.
Being a gay faggot is also a very white thing.
english is such a retarded language that the “-s” ending for a verb means its subject is singular. even though “-s” is the ending of plural nouns/subjects. sad.
one of many things which affect Y = grammatical
one of many things which effects Y = grammatical
so there is a grammatical change in the verb EVEN THOUGH the subject is EXACTLY THE SAME WORDS!
CORRECT!
Oppan Gangnam seutail!
idiot! fucking retard!
one of many things which affects Y is also grammatical.
it depends on whether the subject of “is also grammatical” is “one” or “many things”.
the same goes for:
one of many things which effect Y.
hahaha! what a retard.
in those two examples it doesn’t matter. BOTH -s and no -s are grammatical.
it depends on what the subject is. is it “one” or is it “many things”?
effect and affect can sometimes be swapped out one for the other and the sentence is still grammatical and not non-sensical. so when peepee says “hahaha! what a retard!” i can say “hahaha what a retard!”
and then melo will beat us in a retard off.
dicaprio Effected a rhodesian accent in Blood Diamond.
this would stress that he had succeeded in speaking in a rhodesian accent.
melo personality is too dumb to be a real person. sad.
during ww ii melo’s parents’ relationship was ILLEGAL in the US. the US military was segregated. and during the 30s a bajillion mexicans were deported.
melo: so ww ii was really nazis fighting nazis. heeheehee. white genocide. heeheehee.
peepee, why do you say you’re an atheist and 100% aryan given you are a member of NOI, the nation of islam?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam
I’m aryan on both the German and non-white Caucasoid side of the family, and I’m an atheist with no known Muslim or sub-Saharan ancestors. Why is your intuition so bad?
steve sailer told tucker: You can call up ancestry.com or 23 andme, and they’ll tell you your race to three digits. You know, they’ll tell you if you’re jewish, they’ll tell you you’re 49.8% Ashkenazi.
why would he use that example? where are his results?
Maybe he chose that example because he wants people to think of Jews as a race instead of a religion, and thus separate them from whites?
Which doesn’t make sense, because they are white. (Nevermind when Jewish IQ is compared to white, Asian, black and “Hispanic” IQ—it makes two groups that AREN’T races SEEM like races.)
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2023/08/09/ashkenazi-jews-are-white/
They’re white in the socially constructed sense, but not if the term white is to have any biological meaning.
They are white in the biological sense.
Just look at them.
But why do they look kind of white? Some would say they’re descended from two members of the brown race: Southern Italians and Middle Easterners. Perhaps there was some natural selection over the last 800 years, either vitamin D absorption or escaping persecution, that selected for whiter skin and lighter hair. So perhaps their whiteness evolved independently and was not inherited from the common ancestor of Europeans who had lived on the continent for thousands of years: convergent evolution
Bro that just seems like a lot of mental gymnastics.
A big part of the reason that Jews were given favoritism in the 1948 partition plan was because of how culturally similar they were to Europeans. And why is that? Because they came from Europe.
I agree that they’re white socially, phenotypically and in conventional English usage, but those are insufficient criteria for taxonomic classification.
Bruh what?
Haven’t you been arguing the exact opposite for a long time?
I’ve been arguing that distantly related peoples should be grouped together if they both uniquely preserved a phenotype genetically inherited from a common ancestor (e.g. sub-Saharans & Andaman Islanders). They should not be lumped together if their common phenotype evolved convergently.
Race is in part socially constructed. Jews cluster with South Italians. I think that ALL theories of race have—at their heart and even if it’s not explicitly stated—social constructivism about race. I’m a pluralist about race so I’m open to the idea that Jews could be their own race or part of another race, but I struggle to think of conditions that would hold for that group which would also hold for groups traditionally thought of as races—eg Hardimon’s conditions for racehood.
mugabe was proven right again when he found that steve sailer and andy jassy have exactly the same head shape.
there is overlap but there are head shapes europeans do not have, not even albanians, but which some ashkenazim do have. steve sailer’s is one.
steve sailer is wrong about gaza and the jews because he never mentions them. his article on protestants was pilpul. he’s a liar and a bad person.
You’ve defended Israel, so why are attacking Sailer for not discussing Jewish power when he’s discussed it more than almost any other HBD blogger?
LESS than ALL other HBD bloggers.
the FACT that peepee literally can’t stop lying means she’s a jew. sad.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/how-many-of-forbes-400-are-jewish/
https://www.unz.com/isteve/demographics-of-top-50-pundits/
https://x.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1830440929330967026
https://www.unz.com/isteve/jacob-heilbrunns-they-knew-they-were/
I HAVE NEVER DEFENDED ISRAEL IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. YOU ARE A LIAR AND YOU ARE EVIL AND RETARDED!
the lesson is peepee HATES arabs.
she’s the typical JEW.
she CAN’T stop LYING.
Yeah, you did Dude. You wrote:
“jimmy dore, assorted morons: gaza chirren are dying from malnutrition. mass starvation. it’s the holodomor gaza edition.
mugabe: that can only be true if their parents are satanists. an adult human can handle zero calories for at least a month and zero protein for way longer. if palestinian chirren are dying it’s because their parents are satanists.”
He’s a philosemitic cuck.
Who else would just lie through their teeth like that to defend Israel?
“They are white in the biological sense.
Just look at them.”
Exactly.
“Some would say they’re descended from two members of the brown race: Southern Italians”
What is this nonsense? South Italians are white. And they (since a majority of the Italians that came to America were from South Italy) arrived to America as white.
Even if Southern Italians are white, Jews are half Middle Eastern. So how are they biologically white?
The same way I’m biologically white.
If you marry a white chick, at least one of your kids is going to be so fucking white you’ll think your woman was cheating.
Well I understand that, that’s why I wouldn’t think was cheating. In fact, one of them is probably going to be a red head.
“We found no evidence from U.S. censuses, naturalization legislation, and court cases that the racial categorization of some non-Anglo-Saxon European immigrant groups such as the Irish, Italians, and Jews changed to white. They were legally white and always white, and there was no need for them to switch to white.
…
White ethnics could be considered ethnically inferior and discriminated against because of their ethnic distinctions, but in terms of race or color, they were all white and had access to resources not available to nonwhites.
It was precisely because of the changing meanings of race that “the Irish race,” “the German race,” “the Dutch race,” “the Jewish race,” “the Italian race,” and so on changed their races and became white. In today’s terminology, it should be read that these European groups changed their ethnicities to become part of whites, or more precisely they were racialized to become white.
…
Our findings help resolve the controversy over whether certain U.S. non-Anglo-Saxon European immigrant groups became white in historical America. Our analysis suggests that “becoming white” carries different meanings: change in racial classification, and change in majority/minority status. In terms of the former, “becoming white” for non-Anglo-Saxon European immigrant groups is bogus. Hence, the argument of Eric Arnesen (2001), Aldoph Reed (2001), Barbara Fields (2001), and Thomas Guglielmo (2003) that the Irish, Italians, and Jews were white on arrival in America is vindicated.”
So, if Jews aren’t white then what race are they? What conditions would hold that either make them their own race or make them part of another larger race that isn’t part of the race concept in the American sense?
^^^LITERALLY CAN’T STOP LYING^^^
ALL THOSE “EXAMPLES” ARE NOT EXAMPLES!
What’s wrong with the examples I provided?
“Jews are half Middle Eastern. So how are they biologically white?”
MENA people are white under the concept of race I push (the American concept of race). Even then, based solely on their phenotype, Jews are white.
We don’t know people’s ancestry, people are racialized based on how they look. If someone looks white, then they are racialized as white. If someone is racialized as white, then they are white.
MENA are considered white by the U.S. census but we both know they’re not considered white by most Americans.
“MENA people are white under the concept of race I push (the American concept of race). Even then, based solely on their phenotype, Jews are white.
We don’t know people’s ancestry, people are racialized based on how they look. If someone looks white, then they are racialized as white. If someone is racialized as white, then they are white.”
That’s if you don’t think genetics or ancestry factor into a person’s behavior and biological development. So in other words, if you’re retarded.
There is no phenotype of White people that has consistently beady-type eyes, long-tall portruding noses, and the type of prognathism that jews have. Furthermore, a lot of these features they happen to share with the people around them in the Middle East, and some even with Indians.
“White ethnics could be considered ethnically inferior and discriminated against because of their ethnic distinctions, but in terms of race or color, they were all white and had access to resources not available to nonwhites.”
They provided a lot more to the world than any other group, greater than the resources they’ve been provided. So that’s why they’ve been bestowed more resources (by themselves, other ethnicities that trust Whitie, or by God).
“The same way I’m biologically white.”
So in other words… being half-white. OK.
I often think rr must be paid to come here because nobody could genuinely have those beliefs.
even low iq people don’t have those beliefs.
Jews don’t even consider themselves white so the only people calling them white are blacks basically. If you look at most ashkanzim they look distinct from say Germans or swedes or irish.
Many of them have the darkness around the eyes. The prognostacism. And the beady eyes. I literally can identify jews just by looking at them in london. In the same way I can id Eastern europeans or Italians. It’s not that hard rr. Even children can do it.
What rr is doing is trying to pretend the concept of race is too subjective to actually have any standards yadda yadda let’s have open borders
Very clever rr. Is that the training? The people that did the training or designed the responses are very clever I must say.
No one’s paying him to come here. Why is your intuition so bad?
“MENA are considered white by the U.S. census but we both know they’re not considered white by most Americans.”
And they consider themselves white. (Mostly.) So what race are they? Are you going to go the Chuck route and cite Li et al 2007, and assume that clusters=races without an argument or conditions that make said group races? The 5-race taxonomy makes the most sense in an American context. Again, I’m a pluralist about race so I’m open to the idea that there are different racial groups based on time and place, but the American concept of race is clear.
“That’s if you don’t think genetics or ancestry factor into a person’s behavior and biological development. So in other words, if you’re retarded.
There is no phenotype of White people that has consistently beady-type eyes, long-tall portruding noses, and the type of prognathism that jews have. Furthermore, a lot of these features they happen to share with the people around them in the Middle East, and some even with Indians.”
By “phenotype” I mean merely what a person looks like. And Italians have said phenotype (the nose – aquiline/roman nose).
The question is simple—what race are they if not any of the races used in American racetalk?
You’re using white as a synonym for Caucasoid. White refers only to a subset of Caucasoids.
Yes, that’s a great way to put it, PP. “White” is called White because without a tan, generally, White people have light skin. But since some other races sometimes do, like East Asians, it’s also obviously referring to European features, which are caucasoid, but specifically the European type of caucasoid.
“By “phenotype” I mean merely what a person looks like. And Italians have said phenotype (the nose – aquiline/roman nose).”
Italians are different on average though. They have less of the distinct type of prognathism jews often have.
“The question is simple—what race are they if not any of the races used in American racetalk?”
Would they not be Middle Eastern? Partially. Or “Arab”. If that’s not included “American racetalk” that doesn’t make sense since even backwoods “hicks” know what a Middle Easterner or Arab is.
You could say they are partially White and partially Middle Eastern. Maybe, you could say they are a distinct White subset, but with a distinction that they evolved into European society recently and still carry phenotypical biology and inward behavior from their particular region, and the type of behavior makes them quite one of a kind to the rest of the White populations (especially since they are frequently subversive to White civilization and homogeneity, it’s quite ironic to consider them “White”).
That’s the referent of the term in American racetalk.
“but specifically the European type of caucasoid.”
So say that then.
“They have less of the distinct type of prognathism jews often have.”
Let’s say this is true—this one variable makes Jews a different race?
If “MENA” is a race, then what conditions hold that make them a race that also hold for other groups that we traditionally think of as races? I’m open to the idea of MENA being a race in different contexts in different places, but it’s clear that—in America at least—they are white.
And if you’re going the “different looks tho” route, there are different phenotypes between north, east, west, and south Europeans. What then? They could… I don’t know… Be a specific ethnic group within a larger group.
Jews are prognathous?
It’s not one variable, obviously there will be a lot of little things that add up that persist within their genetic pool. Things like low set ears as well.
They seem more prone to have a type of prognathism, yes.
The whole thing is you insisting they are White and as if it isn’t debatable even in American Racetalk, and someone never accepting that yes, they may be viewed as White sometimes as well, depending on the context.
Regardless, when someone says MENA people are not White, or jews are not White, you generally know (if you are American and understanding of jewish history in Europe) exactly what they mean. The insistence on them being White and arguing about it is a waste of time, isn’t it?
PP, “white” is a synonym for Caucasian in American racetalk—Spencer’s identity argument is true:
“(2.1) The identity thesis is true if, in OMB race talk, ‘American Indian,’ ‘Asian’, ‘Black’, ‘Pacific Islander,’ and ‘White’ are singular terms, and ‘American Indian’ means Native American, ‘Asian’ means East Asian, ‘Black’ means African, ‘Pacific Islander’ means Oceanian, and ‘White’ means Caucasian.
(2.2) In OMB race talk, the first conjunct in (2.1)’s antecedent is true.
(2.3) In OMB race talk, the second conjunct in (2.1)’s antecedent is true.
(2.4) So, the identity thesis is true.”
Lurker, yea I see what your mean, I get your argument. I agree that there could and are some instances where they aren’t seen as white—but if Spencer’s identity argument is true, then the term “white” also encompasses MENA people (Jews included).
PP, “white” is a synonym for Caucasian in American racetalk
But it’s not a synonym for CaucasOID. The latter includes West Asia, North Africa and South Asia. Most Americans equate white with European. The OMB definitions are political and do not necessarily reflect everyday usage. A dictionary would be more useful
“But it’s not a synonym for CaucasOID”
What’s the distinction between “Caucasian” and “CaucasOID”?
“The OMB definitions are political and do not necessarily reflect everyday usage.”
Well yea, they’re social definitions and map onto clusters—call it “the biogenomic definition of race” (Kaplan and Winther, 2014). How would a dictionary be more useful in identifying racial categories when we have argument and evidence that the OMB races share identity with Spencer’s Blumenbachian partitions?
What’s the distinction between “Caucasian” and “CaucasOID”?
the former is a noun and the latter is both noun & adjective.
Well yea, they’re social definitions
Aren’t all definitions social? Words mean what people agree they mean. But which people? You keep talking about American race talk, but I doubt most Americans would consider Arabs white.
and map onto clusters—call it “the biogenomic definition of race” (Kaplan and Winther, 2014). How would a dictionary be more useful in identifying racial categories when we have argument and evidence that the OMB races share identity with Spencer’s Blumenbachian partitions?
Yes the 5 race model seems to be the most popular, having fans in anthropology, the U.S. census, genetics, and even more or less mapping to the 5 habitable continents. But logic demands it be reduced to 3.
“the former is a noun and the latter is both noun & adjective.”
Can you elaborate?
“Aren’t all definitions social?”
Well yea, you’re right there. But what I mean by “social definitions” I mean by “American racetalk” and by “American racetalk” I mean “American race discourse.”
“But which people?”
What do you mean?”
“Yes the 5 race model seems to be the most popular…But logic demands it be reduced to 3.”
Can you walk me through the formal logic?
melo belongs to the gay rapist race. sad.
rr: so ukrainians are white but the president of ukraine is not white. and the leader of bratva is not white?
mugabe: correct. and most russians are white but many are not because russian empire.
rr: and neither israeli jews nor palestinians are white?
mugabe: correct.
rr: but i’m half chinese and i’m italian.
mugabe: IN-correct!
rr: but european = white is arbitrary.
mugabe: also IN-correct. europe has geographic barriers to gene flow. but yes, many turks and syrians and labanese and kurds etc. look european. but despite being many they are a small minority of their respective populations.
Lol, mugabe doesn’t know what arbitrary means.
That’s probably close to his result. He wrote something to the effect of “I’ve always assumed I’m half Jewish” on his old blog about 20 years ago.
Assumed based on what? Not that it matters what race he is. As long as he has good politics based on the correct morality.
I remember that exact post. He said because his interest in verbal stuff and certain issues he thought he might be half jewish. That’s not evidence he’s a one of the dark side.
Same with chris hitchen. Gigantic viq and surrounded by jews in journalism/mind control so he thought he might be a high iq gypsy. No evidence of it.
remember sailor was a mainstream journalist at national review so most of his co workers and friends would have been ashkenazim mind control agents. Also his current boss is a jew.
Gigantic VIQ or above average VIQ with a British accent? He is to alcoholic cuck as Shakespeare is to prolific wordsmith.
I’d have to dig more to see if he’s ever written about taking an ancestry test, but here are the post and quote at issue: https://www.unz.com/isteve/richard-poe-has-an-interesting-article-entitled-quot-why/
Personally, having been raised in Los Angeles a continent and a generation removed from the 1948 Trotskyist vs. Stalinist squabbling at CCNY that obsesses some prominent neoconservatives to this day, all this NYC in-fighting seems a little remote to me. I have one foot in all three camps (I guess that makes me a campstool): I’m Catholic; I’ve always assumed I’m biologically half-Jewish (I’m adopted); and I’m an Anglophile and an admirer of WASP culture. So, I wish everyone well.
dumbass! why would the HBD promoter-in-chief NOT take an ancestry test? they’re not expensive.
why is peepee ashamed of her ethnicity?
she’s like steve sailer. sad.
peter hitchens says he is 1/32d jewish. so he couldn’t be in the SS but he could do everything else in nazi germany. obviously his brother was BLACKMAILED to support the iraq war and claim he was jewish. one possible source of the blackmail is christopher hitchens was at one time a holocaust denier. the funny thing is whereas christopher looked very NOT jewish, peter does look a little jewy.
why is peepee ashamed of her ethnicity?
one possible source of the blackmail is christopher hitchens was at one time a holocaust denier.
That’s an interesting theory. I remember reading that a Jewish author accused Hitchens of holocaust denial in Unz’s 2018 holocaust article.
It would certainly explain his repeated insistence that Christianity is responsible for the holocaust in every single one of the theist/atheist debates he participated in.
Of course half of the debates featured Berlinsky (a Jew) on the other side, who would always blame the holocaust on atheism, so the conversation would inevitably devolve into a choreographed shouting match over who could denounce Hitler the hardest. Goyslop is so sad.
I’d be interested in your thoughts on the IQs of J.D. Vance and Tim Walz. My feeling watching the VP debate was that it might be a good illustration of what a large discrepancy in IQ looks like.
Well I am about to do a post on Ivy League law IQ so that will at least pave the way for such a discussion.
and you have to correct for vance’s supposed uber wytrash background.
supposed because he may have exaggerated because sociopath.
vance vs walz = chucky with a beard vs elmer fudd
the beard is a dead giveaway. no president or vp or candidate for either has had any facial hair for more than 100 years. no pope has had any facial hair for 250 years. facial hair is the chimo green beard. sad.
Vance is smarter than walz. And also every other candidate on either side. And also smarter than biden even when biden didn’t have dementia. And about 50 iq points in Oprah or other blacks.
He’s not smarter than Oprah you little racist freak. Oprah beat everyone on Barry Diller’s yacht at Balderdash more than once.
charles curtis was the last vp with facial hair and he was also the only native american vp. he left office in 1933.
Typical convo between phil and puppy
Phil: you know Oprah is a fraud and an enabler of rapists
puppy: there’s no evidence
Phil: posts 150 photos of Oprah with rapists
Puppy: (severe cognitive dissonance). Well she’s just doing to to further her career!!
Phil: so you stand by a person who endorses rapists to further her movie career?
puppy: (starts crying) but the whites did slavery……
phil: that happened 300 years ago and blacks sold blacks into slavery.
puppy: (throws his laptop against the wall and starts signing the Nigerian national anthem, enters psychosis)
Dude there are photos of Oprah with all kinds of famous people. She & her peers are the most photographed people in the World. But out of all the thousands of photos of Oprah, what percent include a future convicted criminal? Maybe 0.1% which is less than the average American. You don’t understand how to reason scientifically which is why you got fooled by that autistic guy.
dude. pill has peepee pegged. pill is pegging peepee. both peepee and steve sailer are so ridiculous it would be wrong not to make fun of them.
sad.
why is peepee ashamed of her ethnicity?
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/france-macron-calls-halt-arms-sales-israel
Lmao, all the Philosemites in the comments must be seething. Even Macron is turning on Israel. So much for “Jewsdidit”
I think Zionists were pressuring Macron, but he had the integrity to defy them here, unlike Trump who did everything sheldon adelson wanted & will likely do everything Marianne Adelson wants.
But then I don’t think Harris will be much better.
An interesting video about Greater Israel
https://www.bitchute.com/video/K53gtGuJJ1ZI
so what about gaza?
I’ve always been annoyed at antisemites who paint themselves into a corner by claiming that all Jewish interests relate to Zionism and Israel. It’s a dumb claim that makes sound criticism of Jews and Israel look crazy.
Zionism is the most important Jewish interest but it’s not the only one. Subverting gentile societies to make them hospitable to Jews is an entirely different project.
The fact that most Jews want both doesn’t make them the same thing.
correct. and this is why i’ve said a bajillion times that trump and his jews and infinitely preferable to the dems and theirs. the trump jews only care about israel. the dem jews want to wreck america.
why is peepee ashamed of her ethnicity?
jews are infinitely preferable
i apologize for being literally retarded.
The Trump jews will still wreck America but through long-term “goyim and lesser jews as human biomass and capital”-type of corporatism and endless Middle-East wars and surveillance.
Mugabe why do you care about grammar so much yet never capitalize anything? Do you think it makes you faster at getting your thoughts through? Are you just a rebel but with your own ethic?
and in the one case where israel was more than a nuisance, the iraq war, trump got it right and thus cheney and daughter and bill kristol inter alia have gone over to the dems.
trump is EFFECTIVELY an anti-semitic politician. peepee is too ‘tarded to unnuhstan this.
why is peepee ashamed of her ethnicity?
Trump opposed the Iraq War (sort of) BEFORE he was getting adelsom money
Good point. Because of money in politics, the U.S. is a country run by lobbyists (NRA, farm lobby, big pharma, tech lobby) but arguably the two most powerful lobbies in the U.S. are the anti-MENA lobby and the anti-White lobby. Both lobbies are dominated by Jews but not always the same Jews and Jews in one lobby often hate Jews in the other lobby, and both include many non-Jews, and many Jews oppose both lobbies so never be racist. And not all the people (Jewish or Gentile) in either lobby dislike whites/MENA, some are ethical principled people who just think for historical reasons that whites have too much power or that Israel doesn’t have enough. However at the core of both lobbies is ethnic genetic interests, enabled by abnormally high verbal IQ and the money it provides.
the pill personality needs to take over as the master personality.
all of my sexiest comments are deleted by steve sailer.
and by peepee.
this shows that the purpose of (((mass media))) is NOT ONLY porn.
it’s (((control))).
sad.
I think it was Alexander Cockburn who said that above all else Hitchens wanted to be an insider. He knew that playing up his 1/16th Jewish ancestry and leading people away from God would help him get in with the right people, so he ran with it and never looked back.
It’s a shame that he used his immense talent for such evil.