Emil Kirkegaard has an interesting blog post showing the polygenic education scores (MTAGeduPGS) of different U.S. ethnic groups. Whites 0.47, Native Americans -0.37 and U.S. blacks -1.37. If we set the white polygenic score to equal IQ 100 and the black one to equal IQ 85, then:
Genetic IQ = 8.15(MTAG eduPGS) + 96.17
Applying this formula to Native Americans gives a genetic IQ of 93.
But since both U.S. blacks and Native Americans are about 25% white, correcting for this suggests “pure” blacks and Native Americans would be 80 and 91 respectively.
From this we might infer that before modern humans left Africa 70,000 years ago, our average genetic IQ was no higher than 80, but by the time we reached the arctic 40,000 years ago, some races were averaging 91.
But it was only after the neolithic transition that triple digit IQ races began to appear. Indeed a recent study by Davide Piffer and Emil Kirkegaard looked at 2,625 European genomes and found that polygenic scores for education (a proxy for genetic IQ) gradually increased over the last 15,000 years.
Assuming Upper Paleolithic Europeans had IQs like Native Americans (both cold climate hunter-gatherers), this suggests genetic IQ in Europe has been increasing by 0.0006 points per year since near the end of the ice age, culminating in the Industrial Revolution a few hundred years ago.
Piffer and Kirkegaard believe the increase was caused by higher IQ farmers from the Middle East replacing the indigenous hunter-gatherers of Europe but Peter Frost argues they were not necessarily replaced by farmers, but may have evolved into them, writing:
There is thus an inevitable confound between hunter-gatherer ancestry and natural selection due to hunting and gathering. If we look at alleles that seem to indicate native hunter-gatherer ancestry, we are excluding alleles from hunter-gatherers who successfully adapted to farming and who thus acquired a genetic profile that converges, to some extent, on that of Anatolian farmers.
The Philosopher said:
Sorry thats right RR, Latinos aren’t a race. What is the word ‘latino’ then RR?
This is a verbal IQ question.
Answer it.
If I’m using the word latino in a sentence am I really talking about spanish speakers you fucking retarded clown?
Answer it.
RaceRealist said:
It’s a socio-linguistic cultural group.
You going to answer the two Gould questions or what?
The Philosopher said:
Its not a cultural group. Its a hybrid race. Like jews. Or some other categories.
sadly said:
rr thinks words mean whatever the government says they mean.
latino in the western US at least means mestizo. in the nyc area it may mean what the government says.
because almost all latinos in the western US are mestizos.
nyc has a lot of puerto ricans and dominicans. white latinos don’t immigrate that much because they have a good life in latin america.
former governor of puerto rico:
latin america is TOTALLY white supremacist. BUT they LIE about it claiming everyone is mixed.
btw, the government now classifies MENAs as MENAs and not as white.
sadly said:
indians basically control the economies of east africa.
does rr want them classified as asian? or as african?
Cartouche said:
latin america is TOTALLY white supremacist. BUT they LIE about it claiming everyone is mixed.
Depends on the country (cf. Evo Morales, although he did pursue a political career after perceiving oppression of indigines). Also, you referring to “white Latinos” as the universal upper class is laughable. In the parts of Central and South America where a white minority does overachieve relative to its population fraction (which is not the entire region), that minority is typically German or Italian — not Latino. Perhaps if we legalized cocaine like Colombia, Peru, and Mexico have it would help to stimulate your brain.
The Philosopher said:
Remember the official atheist position is that everything is a wild 1 in a bazillion coincidence. Hahaha. Good old autism. Its like the genes for intellectual comedy.
pumpkinperson said:
Remember the official atheist position is that everything is a wild 1 in a bazillion coincidence
Yeah what are the odds of life happening by accident when the observable universe has 10000000000000000000000000 planets? Damn you’re a moron!
As Melo and Loaded have already established, you’re one of the most autistic people here. Your two therapists agree. The only reason you’re not an atheist too is you suck at math.
The Philosopher said:
So obviously I meant the chance of the universe existing and the big bang which they have calculated to 10 to the exp of 71000000 or something.
Life is fated to exist in the universe. Notice the way I chose the word fated.
pumpkinperson said:
Idiot! If a life compatible universe didn’t exist, you wouldn’t be here to ponder the odds of it existing. It’s called the anthropic principle. I’d link to the wikipedia article but you wouldn’t understand it. You’re just not wired for really high level abstract thinking.
The Philosopher said:
Name the scientific evidence for other universes. Theres basically none.
Cartouche said:
Scientific evidence is not required to dismiss positive claims about cosmogony without their own supporting evidence. The burden of proof rests upon you to demonstrate affirmatively any explanation for the existence of reality involving spiritual forces. The existence of God is a far, far lower probability event. Regarding the weak anthropic principle, I’d encourage you to take this a step further and read up on modal logic. The “possible worlds” of modal logic are a relational abstraction that doesn’t need to “exist” in any material sense for a proposition such as this one to be considered.
In more concrete terms: we don’t need other actual universes, just (possibly counterfactual) abstract ones. I can conceive of a universe incompatible with life, but cannot observe it for obvious reasons. This is just the new geocentrism, thinking perspective makes us special.
The Philosopher said:
Are you going to lift the ban on Jimmy?
Cartouche said:
Let’s see Paul Allen’s Mensa card…
The Philosopher said:
Email Santo and tell him to come back.
pumpkinperson said:
Why would I want that moron back?
The Philosopher said:
Because hes more intelligent than you and most others here.
pumpkinperson said:
No he’s not, he’s the dumbest person here. After nearly a decade of daily exposure to me and my verbally skilled commenters, he could not progress beyond the English skills of a toddler. You’re a horrible judge of IQ.
sadly said:
and he’s from the third world.
The Philosopher said:
Look you know what I think about homos and his english is god awful but hes clearly more intelligent than you. Everything he says or tries to say is reality.
gay nippo-zambos for bolsanaro! said:
he’s third world + sexual minority + mixed race
The Philosopher said:
And you keep saying I suck at math. Do you want me to relive the times I pointed out your math errors to you and you threw a fit and banned all the comments to keep your precious ego intact. Lets see…Elon Musk is 0.1% of the american household wealth according to you and ‘3 150 IQ workers’…still waiting for you to send that to Marsha and let us know what she thinks.
pumpkinperson said:
The only “error” you corrected was how much American wealth there was and I don’t even know if your correction was true.
The Philosopher said:
If I showed that calculation to anyone at the Fed or familiar with household income they would burst out laughing.
Cartouche said:
https://satmadvanced.com/
Try this. It’s pretty decent and also quite fun. I got 72 correct answers (71 after penalty and rounding) while blackout drunk. I have difficulty believing that anyone who doesn’t suck at math can’t at least approach the ceiling of the old SAT M section. It’s not hard, verbal is where all the difficulty lies.
Cartouche said:
(sending this for proof, although I suspect I would have closer to the ceiling after not drinking ten beers; would like to see PP look at this test since it has the most sophisticated stats report I’ve seen for any “skimmed” selection of the hardest old SAT items)
pumpkinperson said:
although I suspect I would have closer to the ceiling after not drinking ten beers
Cartouche said:
I’m not actually lying, I am a pretty severe alcoholic and probably going to rehab this week. Alcohol doesn’t affect me as much anymore. The difference between this value and the one I’d obtain sober, while likely nonzero, is smaller than you might think.
illuminaticatblog said:
I answered at least more than half the questions, so I think got many correct but they canceled out from the incorrect answers. (I did not use a calculator as instructed)
I did the full 2 hours except for the last ten minutes.
And I have not been to school for a long time. (36 yo)
pumpkinperson said:
interesting. very similar to your IQ on the PATMA
Cartouche said:
From all available data, this (the website I sent) seems to be a very strong predictor of quantitative reasoning. The stats report is the only one I’ve seen of its type (i.e. for selected hard ETS items) that includes proper factor analysis and characteristic curves. The author even indicates some possibility of automating factor-scoring with IRT rather than the current method of directly converting raw scores, although the nontriviality of writing such a program has prevented this so far. I’ve thought extensively about automating this exact process before, so I may contact him (already know him from cognitivetesting although I haven’t been active for months) to propose assisting. All of the people I know who have taken this test obtained scores close to the most accurate other quant tests they’d taken.
illuminaticatblog said:
To find how many question I might have answered correctly I assume I answered at least 50% of the questions.
12 + 5 = 17
0.25 points subtracted per wrong answer
5 / 0.25 = 20 incorrect answers assuming:
12 + 5 + 20 = 37 questions answered
37 = 49.3% of 75 questions answered
17 = 22.6% correctly answered
20 = 26.6% answered incorrectly
The Philosopher said:
Yes, Oprah is dumber than the average white man. Pretty obvious. Don’t believe me? Look at who her friends are.
pumpkinperson said:
You think the average white dude is more intelligent than the most successful (and biggest brained) woman on the planet? LOL! Proof you have SEVERE autism.
The Philosopher said:
If I went to the gym or the bus stop or the local park I’d guarantee I’d find most of the people there are smarter than oprah.
pumpkinperson said:
^^Extreme autism. Only about on in 200 people at your typical UK park would be smarter than Oprah.
The Philosopher said:
False. Oprah was an AA hire. Oprah never went college. 50% of the people in the park did. Even at a time when colleges in America basically begged blacks to be furniture on campus.
Oprah had something like 7 abortions before age 18…
The only evidence you have ever given of Oprah’s IQ is her bank account (which ive demolished above and below in the comments) and her head size. Judging a persons IQ by head size is basically voodoo. No mainstream psychologist would endorse that technique.
pumpkinperson said:
False. Oprah was an AA hire.
Only as a teenager making $22 K a year in news. She had ZERO affirmative action as a work age adult and had ZERO affirmative action for university.
Oprah never went college.
False! She attended a historically black college because she’s not an Uncle Tom like you!
Oprah had something like 7 abortions before age 18…
False. She had ZERO abortions. She had a baby at 15 but it died.
The only evidence you have ever given of Oprah’s IQ is her bank account (which ive demolished above and below in the comments)
You haven’t demolished anything except your own credibility.
and her head size. Judging a persons IQ by head size is basically voodoo. No mainstream psychologist would endorse that technique.
LOL! Just because you have a teeny tiny bird brain. Actually several prominent psychologists applied my research to estimate the IQ of King Robert:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289607000670
And super genius Chris Langan parlayed my research on his head size into becoming an internet celebrity:
The Philosopher said:
Her whole career is AA. The movies with Spielberg. The promotion on networks. The praise from the rest of the media even though she was doing the exact same thing as Jerry Springer.
Well Oprah attended a very very non target college. You could say it was as hard to get into as a local trade school.
And the baby is dead because it was aborted.
As for head size, that technique has been out of date for 100 years dumbass.
pumpkinperson said:
Her whole career is AA. The movies with Spielberg.
If she were cast to play Wonder Woman I would agree, but since when is a black actress playing a character in a film based on a black novel affirmative action?
The promotion on networks.
Media companies promote the content they show dumbass. Next you’ll be saying a black guy playing basketball is affirmative action. LOL
The praise from the rest of the media even though she was doing the exact same thing as Jerry Springer.
Because she could connect to people emotionally in a way Springer could not. You walked into any hair salon in the 1980s and people had a box full of tissue and were crying over something emotional Oprah was saying. Even Springer himself said “I’m a bright guy, but I’m not cut out for this business like she is. I’m just a blip on the screen; she’s the most talented person there is in this business”
Now if Oprah had become famous right after the George Floyd incident, then you could argue she was a product of wokeism, but back in the 1980s and most of the 1990s it was almost the opposite. Despite being 13% of America, blacks in those days were only 1% of Oscar nominees. Oprah’s the only black woman of her generation to survive, let alone dominate as the solo host of syndicated or major network talk show. There was a TV station exec who told her syndicators they could get a better rating with a potato than by putting a black woman on TV.
Well Oprah attended a very very non target college.
Exactly. She got ahead naturally. Her success was grassroots, unlike Obama whose position on the Harvard law Review paved the way for a career in elite politics.
You could say it was as hard to get into as a local trade school.
The hard part is becoming the most successful woman in the World with such a humble degree.
And the baby is dead because it was aborted.
The baby didn’t die until a few weeks after it was born. Wow, that’s a pretty slow abortion. I’m sure you’ll blame an affirmative action doctor. LOL
As for head size, that technique has been out of date for 100 years dumbass.
Yeah me and Chris Langan; such dumb people.
Cartouche said:
Average abortionist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsC3W1673bo
The Philosopher said:
And then you said Tyler Perry a cross dressing former homeless person with homosexuality is 125IQ just based on his success dressing as a woman…
Jesus christ. Are your fucking verbally and socially retarded? Ignore the equation. Listen to what you are saying. You are saying a man the became famous for dressing like a woman must be a genius among blacks. Hahahaha. What a fucking idiot. You make me laugh a lot.
pumpkinperson said:
He doesn’t just dress like a woman, he created a whole character that makes millions of people laugh, he writes scripts, produces movies, hires hundreds of people, built a studio, created a media empire. It’s not far fetched to think he’s smarter than 19 out of 20 random Americans.
The Philosopher said:
Do you know what the term ‘moonshot’ means. You have a very very strong bias towards success stories. There must be hundreds of gay men that tried that act in clubs and theatres and broadway or whatever and for whatever reason, maybe luck or meeting the right person, Tyler made it.
Similarily do you really think Sergey Brin and Larry page were the only 2 people that ever conceived of a search engine. There must have been a hundred indexers and through competition, luck and so on they were the last men standing. Do you think Brin and Page are 50 IQ points higher than the failed entrepreneurs with the other indexes.
A lot of what you say is so ridiculous and stupid and shows lack of life experience.
pumpkinperson said:
You suffer from extreme dichotomous thinking caused by autism. You assume people are either lucky or they’re not, when in reality luck, like IQ exists on a spectrum. The reason Perry had one in a million success was not because he had one in a million luck, it’s much more likely to be that he was one in 50 level on several traits which when multiplied together equal one in a million. So one in 50 luck, multiplied by one in 50 IQ, multiplied by one in 50 drive, multiplied by one in 50 energy etc…
The Philosopher said:
You said I had autistic thinking then gave an answer that was an equation…great.
I wouldn’t call it ‘luck’. A better word might be serendipity. If you look at every search engine founder and I’m old enough to remember when AOL was a thing, you have maybe 99% of them who failed vs Google and are worth 50,000 times less than Sergey Brin and Page. Would you really think Page and Brin have 30 or 40 IQ points on the founders of AskJeeves, Yahoo and so on? Its called general reasoning puppy. You don’t seem to have it. You have a very very mechanical way of looking at the world. Thats why youre terrible at your job in politics.
This guy Tyler Perry has this schtick where he created a character of a black woman in his drag and he became famous for that. Basically this person is not 125IQ in this reality. Theres just no way.
pumpkinperson said:
You said I had autistic thinking then gave an answer that was an equation…great.
Because when we don’t use equations, we end up spewing the kind of gibberish you provide.
I wouldn’t call it ‘luck’. A better word might be serendipity. If you look at every search engine founder and I’m old enough to remember when AOL was a thing, you have maybe 99% of them who failed vs Google and are worth 50,000 times less than Sergey Brin and Page. Would you really think Page and Brin have 30 or 40 IQ points on the founders of AskJeeves, Yahoo and so on?
Idiot, I’m not saying billionaires are 30 points higher than those who are second behind them in the same field (and are often billionaires too like Yang). I’m saying self-made billionaires average about 30 points higher than the average Joe of their race. So Brin probably has an IQ around 140 (30 points higher than the average Ashkenazi on the street who scores around 110). Actually I would guess Brin is even higher since he made his billions in high tech.
You have a very very mechanical way of looking at the world.
Because the World is very mechanical. Every effect has a cause. As AI has proven, the smartest people are math people because math can be used to simulate so many other parts of the brain, from language to art to music to comedy. This shows the math mind to be the most adaptable of all.
Thats why youre terrible at your job in politics.
I’m fabulous at my job because while other political consultants think they have magical intuition, I have the humility and creativity to apply numbers to human problems.
This guy Tyler Perry has this schtick where he created a character of a black woman in his drag and he became famous for that. Basically this person is not 125IQ in this reality. Theres just no way.
Statistics can’t tell us about Tyler Perry per se. All I can tell you is if we had a hundred parallel universes, and each one had a freakishly tall black billionaire, those 100 people would range from about IQ 92 to IQ 158, with an average IQ of 125, thus 125 is our single best guess for Perry based on his most salient & relevant traits (race, money, height). You might argue that he should be a bit below the expected level since he made his money in a kind of dumb field (low brow comedy) but I haven’t seen his movies.
The Philosopher said:
Ben Shapiro in a Panic – Joe Rogan is Getting Involved Now! – Daily Wire Debacle Getting Worse! (youtube.com)
This video won’t last long on youtube. Theres a lot of red pill comments under the video that certain high IQ ethnic minorities that control western media and governments won’t tolerate.
Interesting discussion on how a black woman can be sacked for saying Christ is King.
Fraz said:
hey Phil, thanks for the vid. May I ask which other websites you peruse regularly?
sadly said:
as i was telling rr:
blacks can’t be compared to whites or any other group in the US outside the black belt, because outside the former CSA they are located in ghettos.
there used to be irish and italian and jewish ghettos and thus the incarceration rate of whites and blacks was about the same 100 years ago. and even earlier Gangs of New York. those ghettos don’t exist anymore.
but pill might bring up blacks’ high rate of incarceration in canada and the uk.
yes. apparently canada also has a black crime problem. or an anti-black racism problem.
why?
sadly said:
and within the black belt blacks are 80% or more. so it’s a better comparison to near 100% white eastern kentucky and southern west virginia.
but he might also compare rural blacks in the former CSA in general rather than limit himself to the black belt.
afaik southern cities are just as segregated as outside the south.
sadly said:
check it out:
how does rr explain this? racism?
but in canada the black people are called first nations. i learned this from norm. he was scared of indians.
black canadians are only twice as likely to be in prison.
sadly said:
source = uk government
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-statistics-2020/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2020
so whites are imprisoned at about their number. asians at their number. blacks at more than 4x their number.
why?
i’m not here to be a racist or an anti-racist.
i’m here to hegel.
everyone is wrong!
sadly said:
canada is a lot like australia and new zealand.
norm's story struck me as totally weird. but that's the way it is in canada. said:
canada, despite having much shorter sentences, incarcerates its native population at a greater rate than the US.
The Philosopher said:
Blacks are actually arrested less in the UK and Canada because of liberal law enforcement. You literally have to stab someone in front of 100 people to get arrested as a black in these countries.
In many cases blacks are given probation.
Say what you want, but the America criminal justice system is a gigantic success in public policy. Crime cratered in 20 years by 90% by locking up blacks almost at random. Great successes in education and R&D.
I think america’s budget deficit will cause a gigantic financial crisis in my lifetime.
illuminaticatblog said:
Pumpkin,
What can we know about IQ from guest posts?
Write-to-iq and such websites don’t gadge iq well.
Can you make an article about it. 🙂
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pumpkinperson said:
I’ll look into that at some point.
noMunich1938again said:
So, PP, what’s my score on General Knowledge, after checking carefully all my funny misspellings, the Russian stuff and the Hindu God? 🙂 It was a)a heroic attempt to contribute to your phenomenal work, from far beyond , from land on fire b) overall fabulous AF:). Didn’t you just leave it aside as something fully irrelevant? Nooooooo 🙂 I vote for 16. Your turn!
pumpkinperson said:
I’ll take a look. I don’t think I can credit the Hindu answer, but I do correct for spelling errors and I know you made a few.
The Philosopher said:
If people were locked up for every crime they committed by magic and the police had a 100% case solving….basically a 10% black population would by 80% of the prison of population of any nation.
The Philosopher said:
Your view of capitalism is like something a 10 year would think.
pumpkinperson said:
You’re just mad because you’ve failed so spectacularly under capitalism. Blame it on your father’s low IQ genes, not on people like me.
And don’t blame it on Opie!
Cartouche said:
The sane take here is that capitalism is a vaguely Darwinian artificial superstructure, that therefore one trait it often (but not always) selects for is intelligence, and that the fact it may select for intelligence does not make it either virtuous or adaptive in a classic evolutionary sense. Capitalism is predicated on abstracted “loss-functions” to optimize that, in the long run, appear to be proving themselves antithetical to human flourishing and possibly survival. Jensen himself could reconcile the hereditarian position with advocacy for social equity.
pumpkinperson said:
The sane take here is that capitalism is a vaguely Darwinian artificial superstructure
I’ve always felt capitalism was a metaphor for evolution. In other words, if we were still living under “survival of the fittest” (yes I know that’s a tautology) the rich would be the only ones who could afford to survive.
Cartouche said:
…adaptive in a classic evolutionary sense…
By which I mean that the selection of capitalism is not perfectly eugenic but is, to coin a neologism from Greek, euchrysotic.
you've got to ax yoself one question. said:
what is the legitimate basis of any government?
today the various governments of the world outside japan, korea, china and its satellites has no legit basis.
because they’re the last nation states.
the former nation states of the west have been overrun with immigrants.
the post western colonialism states have fake borders with so many ethnic groups jammed together artificially.
homogeneity is a necessary condition to any legit government.
because the family is the basis of government.
and the basis of socialism.
sadly said:
the capitalism vs communism distinction is fake and gay.
and thus promoted by professional LIARS like sean hannity.
bigotry!
there is bigotry against the bolsheviks.
there is bigotry against the nazis.
there is bigotry against the neoliberals.
neoliberalism is not an aufhebung of the ideologies which came before it or the end of history as fuckyouyama claims.
not even close.
fuckyouyama is gay and retarded.
peepee: but he’s genetically superior you racisss!
nope! part of being an adult is recognizing that there are brilliant blacks and dumbass japs.
peepee: dasss racisss!
it's called autism. said:
fukuyama < adolph reed
genetically superior retard vs black genius
Cartouche said:
what is the legitimate basis of any government?
Ideally, it should be the spontaneous emergence of governance-structures from the need of a people to organize themselves. This does not necessitate sociocultural homogeneity, but unfortunately we are selfish apes whose “altruism” emerged pari passu with vicarious in-group selection. Gould is correct, for once, that selection is prominent at every level of organization for social species. Otherwise, social behavior could not evolve in the first place, but it has done so many times (most notably in hymenopterans). Don’t give me some Hobbesian social contract bullshit. People who are born into a society never accede to any compact with the state; instead, they become acculturated to the status quo. Without culture, ethnicity is meaningless. Cultural traditions propagate in precisely the same way as religion and can often become equally pernicious.
Nation-states have no more legitimacy than other forms of government. Every government currently in existence is unacceptable, because the hierarchy of the state is a cultural artifact. Hierarchies do emerge practically everywhere, but the ossification of politics renders it inimical to popular consent. Democracy is the worst form of government because it deludes people into believing they actually have a choice.
the capitalism vs communism distinction is fake and gay.
No, it isn’t, and if I have to explain why there isn’t any point in doing so.
nope! part of being an adult is recognizing that there are brilliant blacks and dumbass japs.
Do you think this is either a profound insight or that PP doesn’t constantly suck off successful blacks?
Cartouche said:
Reuven Rivlin sounds like the name of one of Tolkien’s dwarves (yes, I know it’s “rhe-oovlehn rhiv-leen,” but let me have my moment).
too nice. said:
for reddit retards:
pumpkinperson said:
Your constant obsession with one particular period in history is very autistic. The comment section is teeming with autists, each spamming the blog with their own pet interest.
sadly said:
you don’t get it peepee.
i’m making fun of you for saying white people are nice.
pumpkinperson said:
I know but the way you preservative over WWII and the Holocaust is hardcore autistic.
Cartouche said:
Calcium sorbate or perseverate?
🙂
but white people have been killing whte people forever! said:
i need a safe space.
i can’t even read your response. that’s my level of triggered.
my guess it goes something like this:
white people are very nice.
are very nice.
are very nice.
but THEN!
they become the most evil motherfuckers you never wanna meet.
LOADED said:
I’m not autistic PP
"only 5% of non-whites are as nice as hitler." --- pill personality said:
we know things they did not.
the myth of the blood could be vague before DNA was discovered to be the means of inheritance.
that was in 1944.
the human genome project wasn’t completed until 2003.
knowing how little humans differ at genetic level makes ethnic rivalry gay and retarded.
and going into space too.
when the whole world can be seen from outer space ethnic rivalry seems gay and retarded.
what the nazis did had been done many times before, just not on the scale, there were fewer people.
the romans shoah-ed the carthaginians.
the jews shoah-ed the canaanites.
the mongols shoah-ed everyone.
nobel peace prize laureate from burma shoah-ed the rohingya muslims.
When she ascended to the office of state counsellor, Aung San Suu Kyi drew criticism from several countries, organisations and figures over Myanmar’s inaction in response to the genocide of the Rohingya people
so again!
it’s because white people are nice.
sadly said:
what does it mean to be an american?
it used to mean something, even if not much.
today it means nothing.
it used to mean something in the early 70s (so when blacks were incarcerated at only 2x whites rather than 5x like it is today so STFU about muh racism n shit).
it used to mean something in 1776.
the so-called WASP establishment has no power anymore.
quelle dommage!
Cartouche said:
What does it mean to be Albanian? Nothing meaningful except what it implies about the probability of having certain genes. Don’t blame me for idiots becoming enslaved to arbitrary symbolic systems that live through them. Zizek analyzed this in Sublime Object of Ideology. Strangely, he seems to agree with Ted Kaczynski in The System’s Neatest Trick. It’s a pretty banal observation, to be completely honest. Doesn’t make it untrue. It “means” nothing to be American except for the juristic implications of your citizenship. The same holds for every country. What the fuck is your point?
cartouche thinks enver hoxha was an actual maoist. sad. said:
my point is you’re an albanian.
and autism is sad.
Cartouche said:
Për atdhen lokja m’ka le, për flamurin kuq e zi
Jam ushtar në UÇK do ti sjell vendit liri
This is the limit of my knowledge of shqiptars.
sadly said:
zizek also said that gandhi was more violent than hitler.
if you wanna grok hitler just listen to gandhi!
of course india should be a lot more than one country.
and the indian citizens of the NE don’t even look indian.
Lurker said:
Happy Easter, Mugabe.
LOADED said:
that’s why Pakistan exists!
illuminaticatblog said:
Physics is based on spiritual forces.
Ask why consciousness exists.
Why colors and qualia of any kind exist.
Why you exist with those attributes.
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Anything, no matter how small has an aspect of spirit to it.
Cartouche said:
Not physically reducible != spiritual.
illuminaticatblog said:
I think you conflate spirit with supernatural.
Depression is a cause of people thinking spirit can only be happy and extraordinarily awe inspiring.
Depression makes things dull but still all things must have a mental aspect. Meaning dullness is spiritual as well.
In my view everything is alive. nothing is dead materials.
Everything must feel something like it is to be.
I believe in Animism
In the case of distinct colloquial spirits and miracles, that depends on if we are in a simulation. (I have suspicions)
Lurker said:
Everything we know about reality is through the mind. Consciousness is irreducible to anything physical. Everything that exists is a meaningful “property” (something with a definition/attribute) which is a mental construct.
If you add in a few things that aren’t far-fetched given physics and the unity of reality (“uni”-verse) like nonlocality and synchronization/entanglement of “mental” substances over the whole universe you can get something very “spiritual”.
Cartouche said:
In my view everything is alive. nothing is dead materials.
Everything must feel something like it is to be.
I believe in Animism
This is not animism, it’s panpsychism. Spirit is not a particularly useful word here. I believe that consciousness cannot be physically reducible, since there exists a possible world in which I exhibit different qualia but am physically identical. That notion does not logically imply either the existence of “spirit” or that panpsychism is even true (which, I might add, does not require spirit).
that depends on if we are in a simulation
For every simulated possible world there exists an unsimulated possible world whose laws of physics mimic any “glitches” arising from the simulation process. You’ll never know.
Everything we know about reality is through the mind. Consciousness is irreducible to anything physical. Everything that exists is a meaningful “property” (something with a definition/attribute) which is a mental construct.
This is all true. Don’t try to “gotcha” me with Descartes’ demon or Humean ignoramus et ignorabimus.
If you add in a few things that aren’t far-fetched given physics and the unity of reality (“uni”-verse) like nonlocality and synchronization/entanglement of “mental” substances over the whole universe you can get something very “spiritual”.
This sounds like something Deepak Chopra would say. It is known that quantum entanglement can’t transmit meaningful (in the information-theoretic sense) information. Therefore, while nonlocality and the Bell inequalities may furnish vague ammunition for woo-woo, it’s impossible to have different qualia due to them.
illuminaticatblog said:
What is your view on shintoism?
sadly said:
peepee won’t post this because it will make her unbelievably angry.
people say gaza is an open air prison and its people are suffering. and it’s all israel’s and america’s fault.
okay. that’s enough.
the nakba didn’t put 2 million arabs in gaza!
250k in 1950.
that was the nakba.
sadly said:
peepee: well they bred like rabbits because israel and america.
okay.
you’re just an extreme evil racist.
pumpkinperson said:
Constantly bombing people causes r selection because it’s totally random who survives a drone attack, thus high quantity trump’s high quality. The term bombed back to the stone age takes on a new meaning.
sadly said:
i’m pro-palestinian because the nakba and because underdogs.
the ideal is a one state solution where the jews stay in israel and don’t leave for the US or europe and the arabs are a lot better off economically.
but i don’t know if this is possible.
btw, the IDF includes arab israeli volunteers. but unlike jews arab israelis don’t have to serve.
The Philosopher said:
Netanyahu endorses a 1 state solution too…with official apartheid hahaha.
The Philosopher said:
Also Mugabe is wrong and whites are generally much more empathetic than other races. You look at how blacks treat each other. How asians do. How even south asians do. Case closed.
LOADED said:
nice April Fools joke Pill!
Lurker said:
Nice April Fools joke, LOADED!
sadly said:
because christianity.
not because muh genes n shit yo.
pumpkinperson said:
HBD chick would say low cousin marriage made certain white ethnic groups less genetically clannish.
Name said:
There never is just one solo reason behind most things. The more than one reason is/are: low cousin marriage, high levels of modernity and development, education, low infectious disease load, high hygiene standards, christianity and its emphasis on forgiveness, colder and less irritable (mood and skin irritation causing weather is less likely in the global north), less spicy food etc
The Philosopher said:
Wow why did you ban the monopoly comment?
The Philosopher said:
You look at Puppy worshipping this fat low IQ talk show host. Why don’t you worship someone moral and masculine like Mel Gibson?
pumpkinperson said:
I’m not a gay man like you, so it’s hard for me to worship a male sex symbol like Mel Gibson, but Oprah combines the three most Darwinian correlates of IQ (money/power, brain size and African ancestry) in one super charismatic package.
"mel gibson by himself could beat the english national football team." --- pill personality said:
saint mel gibson is also a citizen of ireland.
sadlly said:
when blacks are incarcerated at only 2x whites i say these rates are similar because they can be explained by SES and urban vs rural.
that is, at 2x blacks are just acting like whites with similar SES who live in cities.
but canada puts away its indigenes at like 7x.
but this is just federal.
iirc indigenes are about 4% of canadians.
Indigenous people are vastly over-represented and make up a rising share in the Canadian prison system, making up 30.04% of the offender population in 2020, compared to 4.9% of the total population.[2] In 2018-2019, the offender population included Caucasians at 54.2% and Black people at 7.2%; meanwhile, Asian people made up only 10.3%, thereby being vastly underrepresented compared to their share of the overall population at 25.3%.[3]
pumpkinperson said:
Indigenous are 5% of Canada and 27% of offenders according to your pie graph so 5.4 times over-represented
By contrast blacks are 2.2% of Canada but 8% of offenders so only 3.63 times over-represented
But most black Canadians are highly selected by immigration
The Philosopher said:
No dumbass its because the authorities in Canada are extremely liberal and would be very hesitant to go after blacks and be ‘racist’.
pumpkinperson said:
going after native Americans is not racist?
sadly said:
more apples to apples is incarceration rates have to be adjusted for region of the country.
the former CSA may have longer sentences for everyone.
so if 56% of african americans still live in the former CSA their incarceration rate will be inflated.
the former CSA has less than 38% of the US population.
sadly said:
in merca (and canuckistan and europe) it’s not autistic at all.
the american media is obsessed with it.
do you want me to obsess over the sepoy massacre?
wtf? LAME!
for the last 500 years at least europe and its diaspora has been the center of the weltgeist.
that’s not racism. it’s just the fact.
WE = YOU AND ME AND RR all live in the shadow of WW II and the BOLSHEVIK revolution.
calling it autistic doesn’t make it go away.
your most recent personality calls itself munich1938 for fuck’s sake!
The Philosopher said:
If you look at real GDP per capita over the past 20 years Canada grew by just 2%….LOL that is worse than Italy.
My guess is that basically since Canada had open borders the amount of GDP had to grow double to keep up with the pace of immigration.
The Philosopher said:
The italians elected a neo fascist government to stop immigration. The first thing she does when she gets into office? Bows her head and lets in the ‘refugees’.
Its like it doesn’t matter who you vote for. The borders have to stay open.
Cartouche said:
The reason why is quite simple. Everyone has a stake here. Mass migration has the chance to do two of three things: solidify the global underclass, inflame racial tension, or homogenize the working population in a way such that workers demand less from employers. The third one is guaranteed, while the first two are alternatives. The true left sees a benefit in the potential for solidarity against ruling elites. Neoliberals see benefits in economic efficiency and preserving the status quo. The far-right sees a benefit in accelerationism towards creating an ethnostate by sowing disillusionment amongst racial majorities. Of course, the powers that be likely see the first as a necessary sacrifice, the second as a useful distraction to split the proletariat, and the third as an affirmative good.