Many years ago there was a study called the Milwaukee project where poor kids born to very low IQ mothers received the most incredible intellectual stimulation imaginable from birth to age six. The study found that the stimulation raised the IQs of the kids in the Treatment group by dozens of points relative to the control group. However the strange thing was these IQ enhanced kids did not behave like you expect given their high test scores. In fact they performed just as badly at learning math as did their low IQ peers in the control group. It seems six years of the most intense intervention imaginable only raised their test scores but not their actual intelligence.
This suggests something deeply flawed about IQ tests if it’s possible to raise the measurement without actually raising the thing being measured. Where else in science do we see this happen? Maybe in election polling but I can’t think of many other places.
One reason this may happen is that IQ tests, in order to be relevant to the widest possible population, must express questions and problems in very generic ways. There’s only a very finite number of very generic problems so anyone with a good intervention or education is likely to have been trained on many of them. By contrast in real life, problems are not generic but context dependent and the number of specific contexts is infinite, and for this reason intelligence perhaps can’t be taught, even though IQ often can (depending on the test).
In the same way an Artificial Intelligence Bot like Chat GPA, which has been trained on the entire internet, can score quite high on a verbal IQ test and even write original poems, stories and news articles. But if based on its performance on these generic tasks you hired it to do something highly contextual, like write season 3 of HBO’s White Lotus, you would quickly discover it dramatically underperforms humans with the same verbal IQ.
Or to put it in Jensen-speak, it’s score is hollow with respect to g. The lights are on, but nobody’s home.
No it’s not definitely flawed. Domain-specific problems of the repeatable nature can be improved up to the maximum working memory capacity. It’s like re-arranging a chemistry or physics problem with the same 2-3 variables in various situations, you will improve the ‘test’ score but when it comes to a totally different domain problem, the ability to identify 2-3 variables of relevance is missing without the generality factor that is implicit. Cross-domain associations cannot be made from static systems or static architecture, it will only perform one target-function mapping or a class of target-function mappings. The wetware is necessary because it is processing holistically, a system that is accessible to X^N degrees of freedom.. molecule structure, molecule orientation, rate of change, sensitivity factor, quantum energy state and 99 other factors that are not representable by fixed binary machines computing linearly. There’s a reason why the human brain is very efficient and generalizable and why semi-conductors is not the answer. It’s the same reason with low IQ. The qualitative structure of the brain is deficient in handling the problems, a tree with cut roots and lack of stems can only emulate at a low-resolution image of the problem; one that is highly defined and precise can invariably store and retrieve more information. The nature of thought changes dramatically. It’s like moving from addition, to multiplication, to exponentiation, to sums of squares… there’s too many compression factors that are prerequisite before you can do the latter operations. Repeating a series of steps is insufficient to access the same level of ingenuity, in the same way that training more is counterintuitively less efficient. You must identify patterns, you must make use of those patterns, you must form meta-patterns, and synergize those meta-patterns to create context. It’s not enough to be good at one archetype of patterns.
i had a hypothesis that to actually calculate a persons intelligence you had to upload their brains to a computer at the time of birth (which would still end up factoring in prenatal environment) and then apply them to be as creative as possible.
intelligence after all is just problem solving and problem solving by creating new things is the way to go!
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The MP is one of numerous related studies which show that the hereditarian hypothesis is clearly nonsense – Skeels and Skodak’s 1949 follow-up study of children adopted into better homes showed they went from having a combined “IQ” of 84 to a “normal” IQ. And Skeels and Skodak held similar views about “intelligence” as eugenicists of the day and when they recanted their views they were then attacked by hereditarians. Headstart and similar programs clearly show that Skeels and Skodak’s views were correct, contra protestations from people like Terman.
Ban this person.
Pill have you watched Good Will Hunting before?
The potential of IQ is the same as the limit of IQ.
Of course, a baby will be retarded if it is not loved properly.
But a potential IQ of 100 is the limit of 100. You will not get an IQ of 160 from a kid with only a potential of 100.
IQ is the parallel structure of attention. Low attention is the result of a crippled structural system.
Anime you are definitely autistic. you dont think clearly either. you have no set of skills just passions that you want to be good at for prestige.
you are a man who chases success instead of doing hard work to get there. you are a narcissist because you think people have to listen to you.
im sorry to break it to you but i dont know why people treat you nicely. you are a terrible person who has a persona of being a nice obedient individual but you will never get it.
you have little to offer this world as far as i can tell. your whole family is fucked up and you will also remain fucked up forever!
dont take this the wrong way if you improve you have a lot of potential but youre always subverting blame from yourself onto other things.
in short: STOP FUCKING MAKING EXCUSES!
the ignorance you show loaded is astounding.
im ignorant? how am i ignorant? youre illogical thats what you are Anime!
you have too much free time not enough constructive activities in your life. cmon man.
ignorance? about you? never!
the 88 in my email stands for HH. H is the eighth letter of the alphabet and uttar pradesh is home to the true aryan midgets. i’m so wet right now i can’t stand it thinking about you LOADED.
I think the Milwaukee thing was bunk. Early childhood iq is difficult to test. Why would a low genetic iq population test at iqs higher than average? Their iqs returned to the control as the kids aged too. You always have to beware of liberal jobbing when you look at these things, of course.
I don’t think the computer actually wrote the poem either. It’s using immense memory of the internet to find a poem and change a few words. It would be interesting to see which items the computer got right on the analogies. Perhaps it’s somehow finding them online too.
One should always compare one’s own test score with other scores on the exact same test with people of simular backgrounds.
This is why the SAT and GRE is perfect to measure the IQ of most aspiring college students because it’s measurng the potential of people with similar ambitions.
Saying one’s IQ is “X” or “Y” is irrelevant because we don’t know which test they are referring to.
Now if i say my SAT is 1200 that actually translates to something meaningful because the sample size of the SAT is ridiculously high and it’s a perfect test to compare abilities of college bound students.
One should always compare one’s own test score with other scores on the exact same test with people of simular backgrounds
But the most interesting cases involve entities of very different backgrounds: Man vs machine, Man vs aliens, Man vs Neanderthals.
Pumpkin are the “thousands” of people who visit your blog just clicks you get? because i bet people like Anime and Ganzir probably type your blog into a search engine and click on your link thousands of times a day so i dont think you can accurately assess how many readers you have!
LOL
i didnt expect you to laugh i wanted a sincere answer Pumpkin.
nice theory
Loaded,
There is “visitors” and “views”.
what’s the rate of full-blown autism in albanian americans?
90%?
Where is my comment? It was a technical critique of AI. Why was it banned?
lol
Context is key (see google theory of autism).
A model is a network of contexts that compress information by referring to similar contexts.
This is what I mean by association, whatever is surrounding an item will generate that item if enough context is present. This way you do not need to remember everything but only a top-down hierarchy of contexts to predict the next events.
chatgpt has a limited attention system that does context but because it is not human-specific and is pretrained it only knows what context it has from the items in the data set. it can make new poems from examples but it cannot go beyond the “structure” of those examples.
The top-down structure is what makes a person able to pass an IQ test at a high level because attention is limited by structure. Parallel structures allow more contexts to form in the brain. This is simple manipulation by parallel attention.
vision is the ultimate context mechanism. Once a context is memorized you can in your head simulate what will happen and then test if the simulations are true or false increasing new contexts. Causality is then a 4D map of what is happening and a 5D map of possible happenings. Possible happenings collapse into actualities when we decide what possibility we wish to seek.
Who would have thought Kevin Costner would be the number 1 tv star in 2022? I thought he was finished in the early 2000s for exposing himself to women multiple times. Just shows people can pull off massive comebacks.
Meaningless. You only need to be watched by a few hundred thousand people to be considered a star in today’s fragmented media age.
Not true. Yellowstone has an audience in the millions.
True but it’s numbers would not have been considered impressive 20 years ago.
Mel Gibson nearly won an Oscar for his war movie (it was excellent). I think that would have been the greatest comeback in the history of media because it would have been in spite of jews controlling the entire industry.
are you 45 Phil?
Honestly I don’t see Kanye coming back. He would need to make some crazy good album and even then a lot of people would refuse to buy it because of his political beliefs. The one thing Kanye has going for him is that he’s black and the entire economy is geared towards helping blacks.
But at the same time you have 30% of the country that is vehemently racist against blacks.
Youre so socially dumb. The amount of flat out racists is like 1%. I’m one of them and its totally rare.
You’re very naive if you think it’s 1%. Trump launched his Presidency questioning Obama’s birth certificate. Alex Jones created empire calling Michelle Obama a man. There is a HUGE chunk of America that HATES HATES HATES uppity blacks.
I’m talking about ‘flat out’ or open racists. People that actually act on their racist beliefs. Trump and Alex Jones would rather castrate themselves than say on tv they hate blacks.
Well I’m including all the people who are in denial about their racism & make up excuses for why all the people they hate most tend to be black. Open racists like yourself are very rare.
The people who hate blacks are generally able to get away from them, so they aren’t going to cause any direct problems to blacks. Why?
Because those people are generally conservatives and don’t rely on the state. Racist white or even nonwhite people literally have to pay extra to move, and also to pay for the taxes that heavily skew towards blacks (actually they heavily pay for anyone aligned with the deep state, finance economy, etc. but compared to average whites blacks get way more).
PP you also don’t understand white people or modern culture or Americans. People liked what Trump said about Obama and illegals not because they are full of racist hate but because what he said was directly against what has been fed to us.
That’s why it was said the republican party has changed after Trump. Sure, he attracted some really ignorant racists but moreso, he attracted those who don’t like to be told what to do by those in power, which characterizes white people a lot more than being racist.
You don’t think birthers are racist, Lurker? WOW!
Lurker is literally the dumbest commenter here.
I mean are the nonwhites who basically search for any reason (including microaggressions which includes literally anything a more competent person could do that makes someone else feel bad) on whites for any reason racist?
Are the blacks who commit crimes racist because they disproportionately affect whites?
Are the worldwide majorities who come to white countries and drown out the white population while still accepting aid racist?
White people voted for Obama more the first time, and less the second time, and probably even more switched to Trump. “Racist” is a BS term with no hard definition in the first place. That’s why they have to keep changing the definitions, like the ADL does. Is it racist to believe something about a group when it reflects the evidence?
Plus, people will make racist remarks on a whim. Sometimes white people piss me off, sometimes asians, sometimes jews, etc. Every race has at least one good and one bad trait en masse.
I suppose you go hard on the liberal angle because you have to read Philosopher’s comments which are (kind of) the opposite.
Lurker lives in a different reality than us.
Pumpkin, if someone said they didn’t want Obama for president based on the logic of ethnocentrism and/or racial differences in behavior, would you call that racist? What about not wanting to live in a black neighborhood or country on the same grounds? Or is that too reasonable or evidence-based to be racism?
“Let’s make reasonable and evidence-based positions on racial issues taboo, and then criticize the plebs for taking non-evidence based positions like birtherism instead!” – Liberal Creationists
yes it is racist to not want someone to be given a merited position simply out of ethnocentric regards what the fuck are implying here that it wouldnt be?
racism is in the goddamn name anything to do with race is inherently racist whether or not its a bad thing is another question.
but yes in this case it would be a bad thing because individuals exist and using an autistic style of thinking to lambast an individual person who has shown ability in maneuvering away from their race-based stereotypes is retarded.
there are people who defy the common stereotypes imposed on them and are thus the victims of racism.
Loaded is in love with black cock so talking to him about race is like talking to a an NBA groupie about love.
why are you projecting Pill? you clearly are the one in love with black cock you have black friends dont you?
id bet you a pretty penny you sucked one of them off before.
Unless you have perfect information about someone, you should expect them to regress towards their racial mean in the attributes you don’t have perfect information about.
Obama himself is clearly ethnocentric, helping launch the BLM-madness, and blacks voted in record numbers for him.
So the best tests are those that include reading comprehension and sentence completion?
I doubt you can improve your reading comprehension skills as there is an unlimited amount of different ways words can go together. Not to mention the use of innuendos, sarcasm, other subtleties that can creep in every string of words in a particular sentence.
Wow. I don’t know about 80% of the games on this list. WTF is Dota 2? I can’t believe I’ve never heard of any of these games. Im a hardcore gamer.
Wonder what Mel is doing these days? He seems to be pictured hanging around with his new family alot.
Puppys personal hero is an obese black tv presenter LOL!!!
And your hero is an obese orange tv presenter.
I don’t worship Donald Trump. I admire some of his abilities but thats about it. I actually disagree with trump on at least 50% of his policies.
a lot of people maybe Pill included believe that all beings are conscious and create a collective consciousness of the Universe. if Pill is a pantheist at all or a deist as he claims then this should be no surprise to him….
well the question that deserves to be asked then is if AI becomes sentient/conscious then how would that affect the consciousness of other beings!
remember in this sort of belief-system that all consciousness affects other consciousness so expect AI becoming conscious to do just that!
I’m not sure I believe what you’re saying. I don’t think minds are like radiators to exert ‘psychic’ energy like you say.
there are people out there who believe in exactly what you described Pill. actually the most socially intuitive people believe in this sort of magical thinking in a much more nuanced way than a schizo would tbh.
whether or not you believe in it Pill consciously you at least subscribe to its credibility in some forms when “reading minds” and trying to find out what people think.
it doesnt have to be as extreme as human radiators and psychic energy just the fact that people can cue into anothers conscious stream as well as observe someones thoughts is just a categorical representation of this!
90% of reading someones thoughts is by looking into their eyes and reading their facial expressions not what they say.
so you just stare into peoples eyes or just glance at their eyes to actually verify the truth? to a degree this is correct but overall it would only validate whether someone is being honest and not what theyre actually thinking anyways.
facial expressions arent a good giveaway either the rest of the body probably has better indicators anyway.
cats and dogs dont look at peoples eyes and only use facial expressions when looking at signs of distress.
in reality most people just give off mental suggestions simply by thinking about them.
its called synchronization and it can easily be an explanation to a lot of things.
clearly Pill you are autistic just a very trained autist for dark traits and malevolent behavior!
“90% of reading someones thoughts is by looking into their eyes and reading their facial expressions not what they say.” -Phil
And you being a schizo 70% of your mind readings are false positives. You rationalize them as true because of your egotism.
anything other than taking advance of others is not understood by you. 50% of the cognitive landscape is blind to you because you are just a predator.
yes Pill is a sociopath we know enough of that.
Puppy since Chris Langan is a racist will you now finally accept that racism is a very high IQ trait like me?
No because he’s only one person. We’d need more cases of super high IQ racists.
Ok well good luck in finding them because 99% of people will not admit to being a racist in public like me and Chris.
Btw, pill, what do you think of the clever silly theory, as perhaps an alternative/supplement to your views on high IQ autists?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19733444/#:~:text=These%20can%20be%20seen%20as,realm%20of%20their%20professional%20expertise.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19733444/#:~:text=These%20can%20be%20seen%20as,realm%20of%20their%20professional%20expertise
I have said this for the past 10 years. You can check my comments. I said that intelligent people tend to incorrectly override their instinct when actually instinct gives the correct answer. Thats why I have no shame about my racism and in fact truly believe that racism would make the world a better place [redacted by pp, 2022-12-17]
Phil is ISTJ
Lurker how am i a parasite? what have i taken from anyone who wasnt my kin?
you are a fucking blithering idiot. you dont understand that you are an NPC with no understanding of purpose. if anything youre a parasite for taking on others values as your own without critically thinking about them!
why do you think your IQ is as high as Langan’s?
I never said that.
what is your IQ then Phil? high? how high?
i think my IQ is 120 verbal and 100 spatial. if i had not had the mental breakdowns and the consequential sufferings of the mental hospitals i had to be admitted to i would probably have a verbal of 130 and spatial of 110.
if i had not done drugs etc. maybe even as high as 135 verbal and 120 spatial.
but unfortunately i fell down a deep path of chaos and destruction in my life. because of this my IQ never reached what it couldve.
my genetic IQ has been estimated at 140 verbal and 125 spatial. with that amount of brainpower i wouldve been far more intellectually successful than quite a few people on this blog!
Obviously there are zero autists who are racist because its intellectually impossible for them. Look, what we’re seeing is racism is prevalent in people with very high IQs and social intelligence like me.
Hate is an embedded instinct?
Or is hate a rational decision?
racism is just hate for anything different.
crypts and bloods are both black.
Catholics and protestants in Irland, both whites.
anything different I mean anything.
liberals and conservatives.
Anime is a perfect example of someone who could never be racist. Even if I sat down with him and gave him a 12 week course in racism, he would come out the other end totally harmless to anyone.
thats not true at all all white people are inherently racist the problem youre describing Pill is accurate because intelligent white people go against their instinct to be racist!
Anime seems like he could be racist if he had a lot of bad encounters with minorities he is extremely sensitive so that would make him even more spiteful to someone who doesnt agree with his natural state of being.
LOADED, you are literally a parasite. 1. Leave this blog. 2. Leave the US.
^^^ Very intelligent comment
fuck you Lurker why dont you leave your parents basement and actually contribute to society?
piece of shit says the stupidest things! how can someone be so stupid?
“white people are inherently racist”
ethnic cleansing (see African tribes killing each other) only happens because of war and war happens because people are different. whites kill whites, blacks kill blacks, Asians kill Asians.
all races are racist, they kill their own race because they are seen as different.
only when races interact do they start hating each other beyond the geography of race otherwise they see differences in other ethnicities next to them geographically as subhuman.
Blacks and whites don’t have conflict except where they interact.
Blacks kill more blacks than whites kill blacks because blacks interact with blacks more. Whites kill more whites because they are next to each other.
proximity is the biggest factor in bigotry/war.
Anime what im trying to say is that whites are more racist than other groups because the hate in them is more inherent.
most cultures that are there do not seem to be focused on getting rid of other people the way whites are. Pill can claim Jews are like that too but Jews are led by an initiative and whites are not. Jews can benefit from racism whites are just inherently racist.
Loaded you are saying whites are better at war.
But all races war.
Go read some history books if you are not convinced.
The hatred other races have for groups next to them is strong.
no that is not what im saying where in the hell did you interpret that from?
i said whites are the most racist not the best at war.
to all the people who try to interpret me dont try unless you have a firm grasp on what im saying first!
Loaded you make no good arguments for why whites are more racist than no whites.
“because the hate in them is more inherent.”
no, that just has no way of being proven.
Hate is universal it is why nonwhites have killed more nonwhites than whites have.
“most cultures that are there do not seem to be focused on getting rid of other people the way whites are.”
What the hell! if that is true that why do other races exist at all? Whites are better at war so no other races should exist if what you say is true. But it is not true. you make shit up because you still exist. You are one of those racist race war advocates loaded and I pity you.
Anime you lost all credibility with me. control your anger when you talk to me before i reciprocate your sense of stupidity back to you!
you have black-and-white thinking. this is because you have autism! clearly there are reasons why whites have not decimated the entire population because there are whites who are less racist than other races.
on average whites are more racist the most extreme forms of racism come from whites but the whites who are not racist are the least racist people that is why racism does not prevail!
do you understand what i am saying or do i need to school you some more?
please dont lash out because of your autism Anime it is not pretty or cute!
you are a narcissist! self-consumed and thinking youre always right!
get a check on your ego!
black and white thinking is a schizo trait
whites are not the most racist that’s just made-up shit.
it can also be an autistic trait because autists are more likely to think in categorical terms so they will group things together in a black-and-white fashion.
its more common amongst autists than schizos. schizos are usually low IQ therefore their thinking is black-and-white had they been higher IQ they would not subscribe to it!
in no way have I been diagnosed with autism nor does anyone calling me autistic know what autism is.
ive never called you autistic but now im starting to think maybe that wasnt the best call. i know people with high functioning autism and i can tell when someone has it.
Anime is probably HFA is anything.
“ive never called you autistic”
lier
“please dont lash out because of your autism Anime it is not pretty or cute!”
“i know people with high functioning autism i can tell when someone has it.”
You are barely 26 years old and from Pakistan.
you don’t know anything yet. I can tell because you act so ignorant.
i was born in America you racist buffoon! youre a 40 year old who has accomplished nothing Anime at least i have a college degree meaning my education is far more great than an almost high-school drop-out like yourself!
you project everything onto other people Anime. you are a self-consumed rotten shit.
more ignorance coming from loaded about me.
What you describe are not “flaws” but the reality of any measurement tool. Measurement tools are valid under certain conditions and assumptions, and invalid or unuseful under other circumstances. It’s like criticizing a stadiometer (the thing doctors use to measure height) for returning the wrong height of person who is standing on their tippy-toes.
The difference is, when there’s an intervention done to raise height, no one has to wonder whether the gains are real or whether the participants just became more stadiometer savvy. But when there’s an IQ intervention, it seems the results can’t be trusted at face value.
what if artificial intelligence is being run by interdimensional beings who are then simulating the course of this Universe using it?
i think AIs specific use aside from utilizing growth monetarily in a society would be to simulate large-scale activities!
IQ tests aren’t “measurement tools” since there is no specified measured object, object of measurement, or measurement unit. If you think there are, please inform me.
Oh God, not again.
It’s a legitimate question that needs to be answered.
Ban this person for being too stupid to comment here.
memory and manipulation
anything quant
That didn’t answer the question.
ive met some very very racist autists i dunno what Pill is talking about.
Phill theory doesn’t seem to stand at least for the past. Both my maternal grand-parents – now that I think about it – had autistic tendencies and were very racist even for their time and place. My grandma died in 2019.
My grandpa fought for the Wehrmacht and was 3 Reich advocate. He thought blacks had to be protected by whites and gathered in their own country.
My grandma said that miscegenation made her sad and nauseous. Each time she saw a black person on TV, she would say that she felt that even the TV was stinking …
Both of them were hiding up to teenage age each time someone would enter their house wich was extremely unusual for Spain in 1920 and 30ies. My grandma wouldn’t speak to someone she has not been formally introduced to if she was not compelled to even when she was a child. Her mom had to say sorry for her and said she was “English like”.
They were highly functional autists/aspies (very good
Looking and bright) but not socially normal. My grandma would froze each time there was a strident noise and my grandpa stare at the ceilings for hours without talking.
pill would say they were racist because the power structure back then brainwashed them to be just as he feels today’s Ashkenazi power-structure brainwashes us to be antiracist. His larger point is autists are the most amenable to indoctrination.
Although I come to my conclusion mostly in a different manner from these authors, my view that psychological traits are immeasurable isn’t even that fringe an idea, as evidenced by the works of Joel Michell, Janet Uher and Gunter Trendler.
They were very contrarian both against society and family values.
My grandad had a wealthy traditional catholic family. Leaving high school to fight in Russia was horrible for the family both at personal and reputational level.
My grandma was from a liberal leftwing family. Her mom was a BBC news and Moscow radio listener (she taught herself Russian and English !). And my grandma joined the requete who were the far right monarquist. The regime didn’t like them at all. And she decided not to go to University because she thought she could teach herself anything she needed to know.
So I would say they were extremely independant and original in their thinking at all levels.
I, on the contrary, have always chosen the most valued and easiest path for me …
My instinct is that racism and homophobia are correlated with lacking education, thus with lower IQ, but that there are also personality traits on their own. So I am sure even among liberal personalities there are closeted racists and homophobic people, because they were born that way 😉
I am homophilic and really dislike homophobia. And I am totally neutral in matters of race. I don’t mind racist people. I like Babylonian cities as much as very homogeneous cities. I find black people with blond(e)s very sexy.
I have dark hair with very pale skin. My wife is blonde with blue eyes but her skin get very dark in the summer and she doesn’t even need sun cream. That makes all my family jealous ! I hope my son will be like his mum. He seems to have blue eyes and blond hair (and his dna predicts that, I took a sample just after he was born).
No Puppy. I would say if you read Bruno’s comments his grandparents have the same views as 99% of Spanish people in 1930s Spain. Bruno even said his grandad wanted to ‘protect’ blacks for their own good.
Autists can’t feel hate in their heart. Its hard to describe it. Its not just racism.
My opinion is that autists can’t feel hate because of low social IQ but also because of profound neoteny. Children don’t hate anything either. Children can’t be racist. Usually children get on very well with kids of other races. Any ‘racism’ is just to make fun of other kids. Not real hatred.
That’s a stereotype for retardates in general. The guy with the axe is pill, LOL:
The retarded person is Anime.
Pill youre fried children are more racist than adults. for the most part people act on their instincts autists included.
you are an anti-intellectual at heart Pill. but to the point autists can be more racist because they have black-and-white thinking. they categorize people more harshly and much more often than an NT would.
how are you going to explain away that Pill?
Im going to explain it by saying youre stupid and wrong.
Im going to explain it by saying youre stupid and wrong.
rr thinks no differences in intelligence exist.
exp: doesn’t understand memory, manipulation or what quant is.
a test can measure these in a person. They are like 80% of intelligence.
rr cannot understand statistics / he has never taken an IQ test and is bullshiting that he knows what it’s about.
“My opinion is that autists can’t feel hate because of low social IQ but also because of profound neoteny.” – phil
my brother chases people with knives and axes. He definitely hates people. especially me and my mom.
I punched him 4 times in the jaw/face as hard as I could and he was unable to be knocked out. He has a caveman brow.
You have poor social intelligence Phil, autists are perfectly capable of hate. It is just they take revenge in the moment not machiavellian as it were. They can’t plan.
As for the heart, that is a body part. I don’t feel my body. I am in my head all the time. Phil being retarded like my brother ESTJ (Phil ISTJ) only feels his body. The only thing going on in Phil’s mind is how to take advantage of others.
Dylan Roof is autistic. Pretty sure autists can feel hate. Pil is a moron, LOL.
Pill is autistic himself he categorizes people and rigidly asserts them onto others. think about it.
he has no fluidity in thought. in a lot of senses. one in particular would be that when he is thinking about something he is stuck on that topic for ages.
Pill is the most autistic person here!
Roof isn’t autistic. Misdiagnosed.
Roof was definitely autistic you could see it in his eyes!
instincts?
Dragon eyes
Lizard brain
amygdala
sociopath
Pumpkin might be a sociopath but i know for a fact he is a nihilist. nihilists believe in nothing but the material confounds of this world thus giving way to shameless opportunisms.
Pumpkin doesnt believe in a grand purpose of this world thus he thinks making money and other forms of utilitarian or hedonistic principles are important and sufficient!
this is to say that the world Pumpkin lives in is shallow and inhibited.
i wonder what he thinks about space travel.
Ah, the wonders of secular atheistic Enlightenment-style rationalism. How far we’ve come since then.
did you even understand what i wrote? i feel like you got nothing out of it!
no worries though you have autism i wouldnt expect any differently.
Loaded finally says something intelligent.
when have you said anything intelligent Pill? you are a literal feeble autist yourself!
Loaded, my comment was in agreement with you. Nihilism is a product of the secular atheistic Enlightenment.
i expected nothing less!
Don’t worry about loaded with black jizz, he thinks whites are the biggest racists despite many upcoming third world countries like China doing actual atrocities against minorities and freedom that is written about as the worst possible imagined cases in Western fiction (1984 for example).
youre a fucking idiot Lurker. whites are the most racist because they dont feel empathy for other races like other races do.
if you want to compare third world countries to first world countries then why dont we look at the past too and see how whites killed off entire races and tried to genocide so many races that its absolutely extraordinary….and sometimes they even succeeded!
also other races do evil to people too but whites are notorious for doing racist things.
whites are inherently racist meaning they have internalized their racism unlike other races.
other races are racist because they actually have a rational reason to be racist but whites are more easily offended by just seeing another person of another race!
whites dont do anything to mitigate this either except virtue signal so they are awful people and deserve to stop existing! (Pumpkin might not want to hear this extremist commenting here but its no different than the racism being spread around this blog just a little more spiteful)
i expect you to post this regardless because it is relevant!
Tldr: you understand nothing about history and got everything from woke media and rap songs. you basically reversed how whites behave towards other races and how other ones behave towards them.
Low IQ confirmed
what history are you reading and trying to pinpoint here you bullshitter!
give me some history lessons then brother if you think youre so historically knowledgeable. particularly ones pertaining to white tolerance!
Phil is the one that talks about instincts all the time, not pumpkin.
what does that have to do with anything?
To Phil social IQ is the ability to take advantage of / manipulate people.
That is why Phil only has half a theory of mind.
what the sociopath cannot manipulate is what he cannot understand so believes what he does not understand does not exist. it is the definition of egotism, protect yourself first and all else means nothing. is not worth understanding. should not be understood.
hmm ok.
the only people who have been racist to me on this blog are indians are white people. or on the internet in general.
you guys are deliberately racist yet attempt to say youre not racist? you guys literally use slurs and say youre not racist?
you guys put other races down and say youre not racist?
at least have some pride in who you are you fucking idiots!
Loaded has low self-esteem. You can tell by how angry he is for no reason.
there’s no such thing as being racist on the internet.
have you been fired or not hired or not promoted or not admitted because south asian?
no! grow a penis.
FACT: the ONLY racism in america is against its majority, wypipo.
if you disagree, you’re a racist. congratulations.
jesus is God.
and youre childish as fuck Anime.
google AI told me to post this.
my epic guest post awaits.
Hey Pumpkin! Long time no see. Quick question: what do you think of the Mensa Norway IQ test (mensa.no)? Do you believe it to be somewhat accurate or do you think that it inflates or deflates scores?
never heard of it
I’ll link it right here: https://test.mensa.no/
Pumpkin where are my comments? also Anime i never mentioned anything about war and whites that is a misinterpretation on your part!
AI would be best at pattern recognition!
We don’t know if DR was diagnosed as an autist person because he refused his mental state to be evaluated nor debated and sidelined his lawyers in this regard too by choosing to defend himself uncounseled and arguing for his competency to be recognized by the court.
An interesting article from the NewYork Times gives some information that’s not conclusive :
On the pro side
“The document also revealed that the defense offered evidence of an autism diagnosis at a competency hearing on Nov. 21 and 22. The hearing also featured testimony “that the defendant’s high IQ is compromised by a significant discrepancy between his ability to comprehend and to process information and a poor working memory,” the motion states.
Mr. Roof, 22, displayed little expression or emotion during his trial, even when sentenced and when confronted directly by dozens of family members of the victims. In their filing, the lawyers cited their own observations that Mr. Roof focused on nonessential details, had trouble processing multiple sources of information, demonstrated an extreme need for predictability and became easily overwhelmed.”
On the contra side:
The New York Times conclude he was more like Phil (whether it means autism on top of schizoidism is also a contentious matter of debate) :
“Based on Mr. Roof’s own writings, his confession and the views of friends and workmates cited in the unsealed documents, those conditions would seem to apply. But the prosecution also used Mr. Roof’s own words to demonstrate his premeditation, planning and purpose (that he hoped to start a race war), as well as his lack of remorse. “I felt like I had to do it,” Mr. Roof told the jury in his closing argument, “and I still feel like I had to do it.””
On a blog, Roof had a self evaluation very similar to Phil drops :
To a psychiatrist that tried to get in touch with him because of his offensive blogs comments :
“ Taken aback by the language, Dr. Hiers reached out to the man, urging him to consider different ways of looking at the world, according to the defense motion.
The defendant responded,” the motion said, “by thanking Dr. Hiers for the suggestion and said Dr. Hiers seemed like a nice man, but said he could not take the suggestion because ‘I am so depressed I cannot get out of bed. My life is wasted. I have no friends even though I am cool.’””
Even if thanking the Dr for his insight is due to – much unlike our beloved Phil – a very high (at least) Verbal IQ at 140 that allows him to appreciate intelligent opposing point of view (wich is more difficult when you are slightly short of 125 at your best).
So my conclusion is that Roof is a Philosopher type but with high IQ and that entails mental illnesses are very much kicking hard there but not necessarily – however likely – autism
You keep saying I have a low IQ and I scored better than Dylan Roof on verbal. Are you angry at me for calling you autistic? Because you definitely are and I’m definitely not stupid.
Your verbal comprehension index was above 141?
youre not stupid? thats a big shock!
No. Dubious but would be good news. No. Maybe. Agreed.
Besides i like you. That’s why I tease you.
Bruno what do you think of open-mindedness?
if racism is a sign of high IQ then obviously autism is low IQ individuals. Anyone with a lower IQ than Phil is always going to be more autistic than Phil is. because of his egotism.
Pill thinks he is a master of human psychology but fails to understand that human psychology is a lot deeper and intricate than can actually be imagined!
clinical autism is an increased density of spines on the neuron.
clinical schizo is a thinning of the concentration of dendrites.
both are misdiagnosed because people do not look into the brain for what is happening.
retards have scrunched-up brains, the brain is tarded/scrunched up like the face is. The nose.
downs are missing chromosomes or adding chromosomes making them melon heads. earlobes bellow the neck.
Philosopher thinks anyone without anger is autistic, calls them “harmless”. Apparently, if you do not have the instinct to kill you are autistic. You need to bash people’s brains out in bars to attract women as such. Sociopaths can’t be autistic. they can kill things if they want to.
whites are indeed the most racist what are you talking about? who is the most racist then? present some points in your favor and then i will believe you Anime.
as a white man you feel deeply offended that whites are racist as well as trying not to be labelled a race traitor. in any case whites are the most racist.
you have thousands of years of historical evidence for this what is your counterarguments to those? dont just make up bullshit man. and dont just refute an argument without providing reasoning for why an argument is flawed.
that is just illogical! you are illogical Anime!
no one is “the most” racist.
you don’t believe me but war is the determining factor.
whites kill whites Asians kill Asians blacks kill blacks
the groups that kill the most are right next to each other.
if you cannot understand then I am sorry for your mental handicap.
There are actually hundreds of years of evidence that whites are the least racist.
BTW, you can’t count backwards cultures that don’t even have the means to explore as “not racist” just because they hardly ever encountered people except their border nations.
Anime you are a blithering idiot. intraracial and interracial violence are different. you dont have a grasp of anthropology and biology to understand the difference so i will try to explain it to you.
interracial violence is racism because you kill people outside of your race thus making whites the most racist. intraracial violence is when you kill someone within your own race and this is because of Darwinian effects. people compete for resources within their own domain so they have to kill one another.
interracial violence has a greater Darwinian purpose because you are killing people who are genetically distant from you. this singular notion brings to light what racism is.
what you think racism is is not correct Anime. you are another brainwashed white trying to defend his own race.
sadly i dont think youll be intelligent enough to understand any of this Anime so let the other users use this information for better purposes than you can bring!
Loaded:
Yeah sure like white liberals are actually warm and compassionate to other races. did you not see my point about virtue signaling?
do you actually believe the idiocy that actually comes from the words you type!?
also there is a difference between negative and positive ethnocentricism! east asians are the most positively ethnocentric whereas whites and blacks are negatively ethnocentric thus destroying your myth that whites love other races!
whites are racist cowards!
Loaded you are right that war happens.
But science allowed whites to war in ways not possible before.
They still had to travel and so the geographical limitations were eliminated.
Projection of power. That does not make white more racist that makes them better at war.
If whites did not invent science but some other race did you would call them the most racist.
So you are a hypocrite. Whites discovered science first that’s not bad that’s good. But science is good. does not make whites more genocidal than other races. just better at war.
genocide is the result of innate hatred for anything different. all races do it.
“whites are racist cowards!”
loaded is very racist and self-hating.
Anime i will repeat my point my directly quoting you:
there are lies there are damned lies and then there are statistics!
the statistics show that whites are the most corrupt and evil people in the world. yes they have advantages that make it easier but if you want to go off of subjective speculation i would say more whites harness evil and racist thoughts than non-whites!
obviously its anecdotal conjecture but nonetheless it is a fair point!
you do not understand that quote
i understand the quote perfectly youre irrational!
“i understand the quote perfectly.”
no, you failed miserably
lies are bad
damn lies are worse
statistics are the worse of all
your too dumb to understand the true meaning
who cares. my point stands.
Anime and Lurker are legit retarded for thinking that whites are the least racist or not even the most racist. whites have perpetrated genocides that were large-scale how can they justify their argument.
even if whites were not the most racist they are the race with the most resources to capitalize on their racism.
whites are racist because of their superiority/inferiority complexes. they think too much or too little of themselves and try to capitalize on hate to gain more than other races.
they are also the most exploitative by far. they always want to use other races for success.
they also employ a scorched-earth type of reasoning where they believe that completely destroying another race is the way to go!
“even if whites were not the most racist they are the race with the most resources to capitalize on their racism.”
The only intelligent thing you’ve said so far.
Obviously, you have no knowledge of the history of science to rely on.
And obviously, you ignore what other races have done regarding genocide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide
are you really comparing a primitive peoples ethnic conflict leading to genocide to something like the Holocaust? even if we go by mere numbers the Holocaust and the Americas caused greater suffering than the Rwandan genocide did!
“There are lies, there are damned lies then there are statistics.”
do you remember not saying this Anime? how stupid are you!?
(post this one Pumpkin and not the other one since i misspelled my name there pls and thanks)
you do not understand that quote
its really not that hard to understand! you are Dunning-Kruger at its finest Anime.
a dumbass who thinks he is five times smarter than he actually is!
“its really not that hard to understand!”
and yet you do not understand it.
lies are bad
damn lies are worse
statistics are the worse of all
your too dumb to understand the true meaning
You are too dumb to use google search.
“Lies, damned lies, and statistics” is a phrase describing the persuasive power of statistics to bolster weak arguments, “one of the best, and best-known” critiques of applied statistics. It is also sometimes colloquially used to doubt statistics used to prove an opponent’s point. Wikipedia
sell everything and buy hindustan zinc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustan_Zinc
nice.
1. it has and has had operating margins to die for. redonkulous operating margins.
2. it pays. yuge dividends.
3. its p/e is only 11.85. WAY cheaper than fresnillo.
4. india won’t invade ukraine any time soon.
my birthday is coming up at the end of this year wanna buy me some? and by some i mean a boatload enough to make me rich?
cmon Mug i know you wanted to suck me off instead but this is way better for me!
zinc often occurs with silver for some reason. unlike gold, silver is a very important industrial metal.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b270348e-45b8-4720-9456-2531e75809d0
Anime you are completely illogical. nothing you say ever makes any sense. try being sensible.
whites might be better at war but why create war if youre not more evil and racist than others?
cmon man do you even read the bullshit coming out of your writings?
The Great Leap Forward (Second Five Year Plan) of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) was an economic and social campaign led by the Chinese Communist …
Deaths: 15–55 million
Cause: Central planning, Chinese Communist …
Date: 1958–1962
Motive: Economic collectivisation of agriculture, …
jesus is God.
deal with it!
islamic philosophy and mysticism are great…but muhammed was a cover band. i liked the koran better when it was the bible.
sad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll
the Holocaust is the worst atrocity committed by white people. second is the Cambodian genocide of the 20th century that is much less not even a third of the Holocaust.
so going by numbers whites are more evil!
the world wars were atrocious. yes. they are the worst wars ever. but i don’t count germans as white. stalin had more than 6m victims, or that claim may be propaganda.
the canaanite genocide was yuge. and the jews were so proud of it they put it in their book.
genocide isn’t such an uncommon occurence, but the holocaust was the most systematic and probably the biggest.
i’ve decided to convert to the popish religion.
my parents have disowned me.
will hindzinc be a great investment?
no.
but it will be great compared to others in its sector, mining.
and thus it should be part of the basic materials sector of an S&P imitation
portfolio.
there’s something irresistible about a company or an individual who is the best at what it/he does.
cue arnold.
bodybuilding is a retarded sport.
but arnold was so good at it he married a kennedy.
actual italian baby vs fake italian baby (rr):
census canada says that 99% of canadian black terrorists are somalian.
i thought…
Your comment is awaiting masturbation.
does aga khan iv look a lot like l ron hubbard?
if you think white people are marginalized in any way youre a complete fucking idiot. most of them live in white majority towns and dont have a college education how the fuck do you expect them to be discriminated based on race you fucking cocksucker.
“most of them live in white majority towns and dont have a college education”
you believe these people are evil?
sad.
sad how you fucking moron.
vox day finally came out as a full-on satanist.
jesus was executed for blasphemy. vox would’ve cheered.
whether it’s religion, the holocaust, capitalist/communist/fascist ideology…
if you’re punished for disagreeing then you’re over the target of bullshit and totally illegitimate power.
People that believe in christianity are weird.
what does “believe in christianity” mean?
basically every wypipo is weird…
because basically all wypipo “believe in christianity”…
including flying spaghetti monster thrice separated richard dawkins.
you need to stop jewing. you’re boring.
God is ab-solute. (not dissolvable in solution)
soul is indivisible. (one)
spirit is becoming. (trans-relation)
Christ eats my feces for dinner.
My problem with Vox is he always says “everything about the modern clown world can be understood when one realizes the Christian notion that we live in a fallen world”.
I think the term “fallen world” makes no sense with the rest of Christian theology. Why would God make people live in a fallen world? The knowledge of good and evil allowed imperfection and evil action, but is that “fallen”? It just means that with free will and possibility of evil we live in a temporarily imperfect reality.
But obviously God would not allow freedom if it weren’t a possibly good thing overall. If God didn’t expect that we could overcome our “fallen nature” why would he bother revealing to us his commandments and every other way he guides us to proper behavior?
“Christ eats my feces for dinner.”
Is that because you gave him food with the hand you used for wiping your ass?
as long as that retard keeps continuing to accept my hand to eat shit off of then yes i will continue to feed him shit.
and Lurker at least i know how to wipe my ass unlike you.
the prophet PBUH said in a secret hadith revealed to me by a cricket player…
whoever worships black lesbian talk show hosts must be publicly executed via horse penis.
and Jesus said and I quote:
“Mug of Piss and Shit will eat his own feces for eternity for his irreverence and lack of restraint.”-Book of John
the Book of Revelations says:
“the people will hang Mug of Piss and Shit from a coat hanger and watch him bleed to death. and the final day will not come until this is accomplished.”
because racist peepee doesn’t know that MENAs were christians before they were muslims, just like most spaniards used to be muslims.
christian monasticism began in egypt.
constantine made christianity the state religion of the roman empire in about 325.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3648d652d7a9d1d3907ec65dc8316220
so persia and arabia were left out. syria and egypt still have their own churches with dead languages as liturgical languages.
the christian byzantine empire (also known as the roman empire) ruled what area at its greatest extent?
Does Loaded get dumber every year or is it just me?
rr just wrote an article on why a science of the mind is impossible. because dualism is true and the brain is not the mind. but if this is true then in no way can what we do be controlled by the mind.
rr does not believe thinking is physical but if that is the case thinking cannot make the brain act on the body. But it is the brain that controls thought. it is a bayesian network that tests hypotheses and remembers things long-term due to the hippocampus. emotional regulation in the amygdala.
rr says because thought is immaterial (does not make the brain act) that a.i. being physical like the brain cannot act to think. But such is the ridiculousness of his views. Intentionality is the recursive nature of the brain. Internal self reienforncement.
Thought is mapped in the frontal lobes. a self-monitoring system. This regulates that by being intelligent the human can survive. It is the hypotheses and testing that is formalized in math and how we reason in the cybernetic sense.
All a.i. needs to do is to learn a value system then it can achieve goa by experimentation and building schemas. representations that grow as more is learned. the structure or organization of attention is critical to this. self-reinforcement requires a stable guide. If not it collapses it must be self-sustaining. Evolution provides regulation mechanisms to keep the brain from decay.
a balance of growth allows learning.
I agree with most of what you said you said. Although I’m not completely sure about AI being able to think. I may read and comment on his article sometime.
People don’t understand that just because something is physical doesn’t mean it is completely physical… Thinking can be both physical and immaterial. The universe can be “abstract” while also being a very concrete thing.
The universe has to be logical at the most fundamental observable level to remain one coherent thing (if it is paradoxical there would be a splitting of objective viewpoints which conflicts of the idea of one “objective” universe). That doesn’t mean that logic “creates/generates” the universe or that is made up of “logical” bits like a computer simulation (although “creates” and “made up of” have multiple definitions so it could mean that as well).
An immaterial thought still has to exist “somewhere”. I don’t see any way to violate spatial extension of an actually existing thing. It may not exist in our universe as observable in the way everything else is, but it has to be somehow represented spatially to exist.
When we say something is ‘IN our mind” we are saying that spatially what we imagined exists in a different area from the rest of the objective universe. It doesn’t mean that there is another parallel imagination universe of the same complexity and size as ours, but that once we have established that two things have objective existences and are actually different, they must be somehow separated. If not in one dimension like time, in another dimension like space, or vice versa.
Objectively distinguishing between two things, such as a thought vs. objective reality, requires that they are separated in some manner. And since most thoughts are not obviously apriori impossible to represent in reality, means that once we have determined our thought does not represent reality, our thought then has to exist somewhere that isn’t objective reality. But it still has to be separated from everyone else’s thoughts and our own other thoughts, so it can’t simply be dismissed as having no physical separation.
It’s fine to say something is immaterial and exists “nowhere” if what you are talking about is singular like reality itself. However once you start referring to distinctions, you are then both grouping multiple things together and separating them at the same time, so together they can exist in the same “universe” that exists “nowhere”, but the individual things in that one universe must be separated dimensionally. Otherwise they are not “in” the universe.
it depends on whether concepts and ideas exist as archetypes. archetypal identification of things would answer all your questions to be honest.
Loaded probably has a picture of a black mans wang sellotaped to his bedroom door.
And he has a blow up doll of a black thug nude.
how do you know that exists? do you have one?
if you don’t believe in the God-man you are guilty of idolatry/shirk.
m/slims and j/ws are idolaters. sadly.///
Before we existed we were with God.
we separated from God to incarnate.
we do not have the power to resurrect.
Jesus had the power.
Jesus took this power from ein sof.
“He Brings into Existence Whatever Exists” (Yahweh-Asher-Yahweh).
Jesus has God’s power.
we do not.
Jesus never separated from God retaining the power of God.
we incarnated losing the power of God.
The holly spirit can give his power.
bridging the gap between man and God.
neo-Gnosticism
Anime im surprised with your gullibility and overall stupidness no one has lured you into a cult yet.
Loaded I am Illuminati bitch.
you are nothing Anime.
one of the greatest music videos ever:
now that’s the way wypipo were just 60 years ago…
obviously CORRECTION!
CO-HABITING!
but even then…chinapipo and israel wins…BUT!
BUT! what about china proper?
no stats from there.
what about india?
no stats from there.
AND in 1960 wypipo were like koreans and japs.
BUT!
ceteris paribus…
having babies and not paying for them, supporting them MATERIALLY…
IS EVIL!
the ideal is every child has a loving mother and a loving father…and a mother and father who love each other…
but OBVIOUSLY that’s ideal.
sometimes DIVORCE is actually good.
BUT ALSO…
no woman should ever be economically dependent on a man.
where was this?
LOVE that song!
Pumpkin has anyone called you a [n word redacted by pp, 2022-12-23] before?
Why would anyone call a 100% Caucasoid the N word?
so has anyone called you a sand nigger?
are you Somali/thopian PP? arent they the most retarded people on Earth? what are your thoughts on Tigray?
right!
but wypipo have “dey own thugs n sheeit.”
STFU you have AIDS!
isss called john wayne n sheeeit
dletd by jews.
3=
toto ALWAYS WINS!
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/0/0e/Toto.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111109180711&path-prefix=protagonist
it’s almost as if you think…and the bat ears close in…
white people are NPCs.
loaded is racist.
racism against whites doesnt exist.
Most people on this blog are white or very integrated in white communities. Imagine calling the people you intentionally communicate with daily, NPCs. Couldn’t be this white boy!
Cold winter coming!
youre a fucking retard Lurker. you guys are pathetic jokes of human beings all of you.
all of you say the most blitheringly idiotic shit and expect no one will make a remark about it.
how are any of you productive to society? you are all spiteful pieces of shit who behave like cowards behind a computer screen.
its a win for me because i really dont care enough about interacting with any of you to let it affect me!
elite unis do discriminate a little bit against asians. is this all asians? or just non-round eye asians? is there evidence of similar discrimination in hiring, firing, promotion, etc.? i think shoe would say yes, but not for caucasoid asians.
BUT!
1. close analysis reveals that gentile wypipo are EVEN MORE discriminated against.
2. the very fact that this case before SCOTUS is about asians brought by a jew…
PROVES what i’m saying…
3. wypipo gentiles are the MOST ACTUALLY discriminated against.
wypipo gentiles are the MOST ACTUALLY discriminated against.
And it’s their own fault, I don’t feel a bit sorry for them. because they’re so FUCKING AUTISTIC it never occurs to them that if they’re being RACIALLY discriminated against, maybe the people running the country aren’t THEM. When else in history has the race in power discriminated against itself? That should be a clue. But instead of realizing this (((OBVIOUS))) fact, they makeup long winded conspiracy theories about Bill Gates inventing covid to destroy his own race or all elite worshipping Satan.
And even the smart ones like Douglas Murray are clueless, writing whole books called the War on the West where he tries to understand why whites hates “themselves”.
its the dysgenics at play. white people are losing IQ every generation and then blaming it on other races.
the sheer audacity!
peepee thinks stupid brainwashed pipo deserve to be exploited because she’s a psychopath.
Perhaps Pumpkin can tell us whether he thinks Chinese people who self-censor for social credit reasons are equally blameworthy as whites who self-censor to avoid having their careers and reputations ruined?
Mug
Peeps didn’t say they deserve to be exploited, she said that it is their own fault. Having said that she should have said it is ‘partly’ their own fault. The other part of the fault lies with the exploiters.
When a person is exploited by another, it is also partly the fault of the exploited person by ‘letting’ themselves be exploited. Whites are not dumb like blacks, they should have used their intelligence to prevent themselves being exploited. Yet they are not using it.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
they do if theyre too dumb. what the fuck. white people use the same argument against other races how would it be fair if they didnt use it back?
The problem is making fun of white people for this blind spot is not really that productive, since although it is hurting whites it will hurt the rest of the world far more that now relies on white infrastructure and culture to grow their rabbitlike populations.
Maybe there will be some religious revolution or something. Because if not, there’s no way a serious hell is not awaiting the non-Western European races if whites’ power continues to decline. What else could happen to many separate groups with lower IQs and less ability to compromise on anything?
Also yeah Douglas Murray is such an NPC on race. My hope is that maybe he just says “West” instead of white for purposes of not getting canceled. Or he wants to acknowledge there are honorary Aryans.
white people have contributed nothing but hedonism and apathy to the world. it will be a better place without them!
Loaded, of whites (not all of them though)are using the same argument against other races then they are wrong too.
Name i cant understand anything you write. it is not coherent enough to be comprehensible and also very vague.
be specific when you write and you will get a solid response out of me.
why does rr sound like a robot? why is it pipo like rr say the same thing…word for word?
btw, liindsey graham is gay AND…
YUGE DISCRIMINATION against MEN exists…
when it comes to child custody.
tucker carlson is very unusual. his mother was the deadbeat.
the absent father is cool when the society is offiicially MATRIARCHAL…
but such are VERY rare.
some chinese and nepalese and the seycheloise are the only i know of.
the mother’s brothers play the father role.
it was nice to hear greg johnson say what the TRS guys will never say. there are good jews. jews who get it.
after tobias schneebaum, my second gay jew hero is glenn greenwald. he’s also a hero of anglin’s. believe it or not.
of course germans are white…i was semi-joking…
but ben franklin thought germans were too swarthy to be admitted to the US.
the wogs begin at calais.
remember this:

this is how the ukrainian nazis see russians.
it used to be wypipo hated other wypipo.
so now the wypipo pipo have become less racisss.
they include “garlic eaters”/dagos as wypipo.
this is why rr is oil drilling. because ancient history of discrimination against italians in the US.
hollywood is so racisss it had andy garcia play an italian and 25% italian deniro play capone.
Mug why do you insist on drinking my semen? is it because it matches the color of your haggard skin?
This is true and yet another rebuttal of Loaded’s asinine theory that whites are the most racist. Irish people were considered monkeys in British media in the victorian times. One of the reasons the brits didn’t help the starving Irish was they considered them genetically inferior. You can read Darwin’s thoughts on the Irish famine. Its only recently with mass immigration that whites see beyond each other’s tribe. or clan.
whites are the most racist.
Puppy usually writes dumbass comments but he finally got it with his critique at who really oppresses whites….not just rich whites but (((those people))).
The marxist and HBD lens are both appropriate and the most insightful. Both suggest different culprits but assume repression of the gentile middle and lower classes of which we are all from.
avatar = africa
it’s almost like g itself is a hollow nothingness—a worthless smooth-brained abstraction that flattens the human imagination. it’s almost like you can’t understand human intelligence—whether in general or specific abilities—by attaching a number to it. it’s almost like every single act of wisdom or wit is a miracle that could not be determined or predicted by a measurement of the material conditions that were prior to it. it’s almost like oprah isn’t wise because she has a big brain, but has a big brain because she is wise. it’s almost like free will is real. but carry on coping—i’m sure if your pareidolia finds enough patterns in the numbers you’ll find a way to save the useless notion of iq.
Well, damn.
“It’s almost like oprah isn’t wise because she has a big brain, but has a big brain because she is wise.”
It’s almost like more information processing requires greater amounts of material.
“it’s almost like free will is real.”
It’s almost like even if free will is real the noted psychological differences that correlate with physical differences still need to be explained.
It’s almost as if anything that exists needs to actually be caused for it to exist. And therefore, if free will exists, and her “wise-ness” caused her to be big brained, there would need to be a detailed explanation of the causes of why a large brain would be the symbol of her wise-ness, and why large brains would be so correlated with genetics and ancestry.
“but carry on coping—i’m sure if your pareidolia finds enough patterns in the numbers you’ll find a way to save the useless notion of iq.”
Oh yes it’s a cope. Trying to figure out how reality works using rationality so we can actually manipulate it for our benefit is a mega cope.
“It’s almost like more information processing requires greater amounts of material.”
It’s almost like this is an empirical claim so you need empirical evidence to back it. But knowing your track record on citations, I won’t hold my breath.
We don’t need IQ to figure out how reality works, what is this nonsense.
Acts/decisions are free, and done for reasons and they are attributable to the self.
What’s the specified measured object, the object of measurement and the measurement unit for IQ?
“It’s almost like this is an empirical claim so you need empirical evidence to back it. But knowing your track record on citations, I won’t hold my breath.”
Look at a computer chip, look at the human brain as it evolved and as it grows from childhood.
I will start citing stuff once you refute the arguments against dualism (which is impossible). Because as it is now, you believe in magic (plus the citations that go with what you believe).
“We don’t need IQ to figure out how reality works, what is this nonsense.”
You need to figure out the other things I mentioned. You need to actually understand why the material and immaterial are both necessary. You say the origin is ultimately unknowable so you have no say about what we need to know how reality works. Go back to you corner.
“Acts/decisions are free, and done for reasons and they are attributable to the self.”
They are not free, they require an actualized form.
“What’s the specified measured object, the object of measurement and the measurement unit for IQ?”
Generalized problem-solving ability. Open a book.
“I will start citing stuff once you refute the arguments against dualism (which is impossible). Because as it is now, you believe in magic (plus the citations that go with what you believe).”
The arguments I push for 2 subtances are sound and you’ve not mounted a single counter to any of them.
Where is your citation for your”(clearly empirical) claim?
“They are not free, they require an actualized form.”
They are free because they are due to the will of the agent—the self, I—actions are done for reasons.
“Generalized problem-solving ability. Open a book.”
Is this a specified measured object, object of measurement or measurement unit?
“Dualism is false” – no matter how many times you repeat this, it won’t magically become true. Dualism being true is an entailment from the fact that mental states aren’t publicly accessible (they’re private) and physical states are (they’re public) so mental states are not physical states. It follows that there are TWO SUBSTANCES.
If minds didn’t exist, there would still be a physical world. But there would be no mental life. Basically, and this is an entailment of my arguments, if humans didn’t exist then minds wouldn’t exist but there would still be a physical world.
Science studies physical processes and phenomena. The mental isn’t a physical process or phenomenon. So science can’t study the mental. Sound argument. There are now 2 arguments in this comment.
“the mental can be measured” – what’s the specified measured object, the object of measurement and the measurement unit?
That’s not an implication of a nonphysical substance at all.
“Why do you need references but can make arguments like “mental is not reducible to the physical” assuming things like purely physical or mental things exist”
The claim is an entailment of the a priori arguments. If you make empirical claims you need empirical data. A priori arguments don’t need empirical evidence.
TBC is just all around bad scholarship. On which page did they make the argument?
“The arguments I push for 2 subtances are sound and you’ve not mounted a single counter to any of them.”
False. That’s not what a substance is. If they are mutually necessary they are not two substances.
“They are free because they are due to the will of the agent—the self, I—actions are done for reasons.”
An agent is a predefined object with specific properties, which requires a subjective interpretation. In order for an agent to have free will, it is required that in some way it is not completely defined, which means that a decision that comes from a somewhat undefined agent. So yes, the undefined aspect does not require material, but once it is defined, it does.
“Is this a specified measured object, object of measurement or measurement unit?”
As much as a “person” is or any other measured object.
“Dualism is false” –” no matter how many times you repeat this, it won’t magically become true. Dualism being true is an entailment from the fact that mental states aren’t publicly accessible (they’re private) and physical states are (they’re public) so mental states are not physical states. It follows that there are TWO SUBSTANCES.”
I don’t just state it I actually give arguments so you can stop being a douchebag.
Private and public states does not mean separate substances when they are all private at the end of the day.
“If minds didn’t exist, there would still be a physical world. But there would be no mental life. Basically, and this is an entailment of my arguments, if humans didn’t exist then minds wouldn’t exist but there would still be a physical world.”
Not true. As I’ve stated, if the immaterial didn’t exist, if subjectivity didn’t exist, meaning wouldn’t exist, and anything that existed would be inherently meaningless and so wouldn’t be any coherent thing, meaning it couldn’t exist in any way, shape, or form, literally.
“Science studies physical processes and phenomena. The mental isn’t a physical process or phenomenon. So science can’t study the mental. Sound argument. There are now 2 arguments in this comment.”
No, re-read my other comments.
““the mental can be measured” – what’s the specified measured object, the object of measurement and the measurement unit?
That’s not an implication of a nonphysical substance at all.”
I just said what the object of measurement was, general problem-solving ability.
The mental can be measured because that’s literally all that is ever measured.
Do you not remember my fictional in-game stick and RPG stats example, which are both measured and immaterial?
“The claim is an entailment of the a priori arguments. If you make empirical claims you need empirical data. A priori arguments don’t need empirical evidence.”
Your apriori arguments about dualism are false, and anything else you try to claim supports social constructivism.
“TBC is just all around bad scholarship. On which page did they make the argument?”
My point is that it is given in psychology that IQ is real and meaningful because of countless empirical evidence.Your apriori arguments do not defeat it.
Yes, IQ and inherited traits are complicated, but they are both real.
yes, trying to figure out reality works using rationality is a cope, since reason always proceeds from assumptions from beyond reason. you don’t even understand how logic works on a very basic level—all valid logical reasoning is tautology.
please tell me, o rational one, is the axiom of choice true?
trying to manipulate reality for your own benefit is a having sadistic relationship with reality—have fun with that, i’m sure reality isn’t going to manipulate you back, and with a hundredfold the deftness with which you ostend to have.
the only thing that causes things to exist is God
“yes, trying to figure out reality works using rationality is a cope, since reason always proceeds from assumptions from beyond reason. you don’t even understand how logic works on a very basic level—all valid logical reasoning is tautology.”
Yes, there are assumptions beyond reason (such as existence itself) and in order for them to accomplish anything coherent, they are beholden to logic, and hence rationality.
“please tell me, o rational one, is the axiom of choice true?”
Not really related to the immaterial needing the material to actualize.
“trying to manipulate reality for your own benefit is a having sadistic relationship with reality—have fun with that, i’m sure reality isn’t going to manipulate you back, and with a hundredfold the deftness with which you ostend to have.”
Not really. Reality will obviously manipulate me, considering I’m part of reality. If reality wants to manipulate me, it will, regardless of what I want, and as you allude to, perhaps because of what I want. I see nothing sadistic about that if what I want is good.
The point is trying to understand reality and maximize utility for the benefit of creatures of human intelligence and ability to experience is obviously the highest possible goal… assuming there are not other creatures.