Commenter Ellen Brady writes:
I actually agree with this theory of the autistic brain not able to prune itself. .My son is autistic and can learn spatial material in a short amount of time but is not able to stretch his thinking overtime and cannot identify social cues or life skills in the long run.
The question is what comes first? The autism or the failure to prune. It could be that typical kids are so interested in people that certain spatial synapses are not much used. The brain identifies a synapse that has not been used in a certain amount of time and prunes it as redundant so that more resources can be used to strengthen the synapses that are being used (the social ones). By contrast if the autistic child has little interest in people and spends all day visualizing objects, thus using the very synapses that are normally pruned and derailing the pruning process.
On the other hand it could be that the pruning fails to occur regardless of what the child does, and the obsession with weird topics is a product, not a cause of abnormal pruning. For example because of a failure to prune useless synapses, the child might have a savant like ability to play any piece of music after a single hearing or know the day of the week of every date in history.
Pumpkin Person 
You should contact Chris Langan and ask him whether he thinks you have autism.
You should contact your mother & ask her if she’s also your sister
Ask Chris Langan to guest post about blacks. I’m sure that would be entertaining.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2019/12/08/the-worlds-smartest-man-on-koko-the-gorillas-iq/comment-page-1/
Americas highest IQ man vs RR. HAHAHAHAHA.
I couldn’t stop laughing at RRs attempts to correct Chris Langan. Thats like a dog trying to teach a person how to drive a car.
What makes it funnier is that another “extreme intelligence” person makes the very same error Langan makes about the so-called “communication range” gap. Furthermore, Langan’s comments show that he’s not familiar with what Koko’s handler Patterson wrote in her book on the test that Koko took.
Can you imagine Chris Langan debating RR in real time? I would pay to see that. RR would likely even deny Langan was intelligent because ‘IQ’ is socially constructed. HAHAHAHA.
Although by chronometrics, Langan isn’t smart if he worked as a bouncer for 20 years. That might be RR’s best attack line. The other thing RR could say that would convince 90% of people is to call Langan a racist. That would even work with Puppy too even though he blogs about HBD LOL.
Chris Langan: “Somalians have IQs lower than many gorillas. Therefore we should reconsider bringing them to the west before gorillas.”
RR: “You are a racist”
Puppy: “Its clear RR has won this debate”.
why cold winters or just fucking cold all the time may actually result in smarter humans:
1. bergmann’s rule makes cold climate dwellers bigger…over the very long term…
bigger animals have bigger brains.
2. allen’s rule makes heads bigger and thus brains bigger…over the not very long term…
3. the higher IQ is a spandrel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandrel_(biology)
conclusion:
given that manchus have lower IQs than honkers and shonkers despite their much bigger brains and colder winters…
european world domination is predicted by CWT.
Thats another thing youre totally wrong about. Rushton was a genius. His book should be required reading in all high schools but since you-know-who is in power theres no chance anyone will get an education on the topic of human evolution.
How would you know, you didn’t understand it. Rushton was a YUGE supporter of cold winter theory which you’re too stupid to embrace:
https://www.amazon.com/review/R3LYQKAUL5NV5N
flushton had a low IQ. even lower than jordoan peterson’s.
why cold winters or just fucking cold all the time may actually result in smarter humans:
1. bergmann’s rule makes cold climate dwellers bigger…over the very long term…
bigger animals have bigger brains.
2. allen’s rule makes heads bigger and thus brains bigger…over the not very long term…
3. the higher IQ is a spandrel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandrel_(biology)
conclusion:
given that manchus have lower IQs than honkers and shonkers despite their much bigger brains and colder winters…
european world domination is predicted by CWT.
In Canada Chomsky would be the old guy at the McDonald’s drive-thru who screws up my order
You give all the reasons why cold winter selects for high IQ except for the most obvious one. Such bad judgment
At my elementary school, everyone and their brother was labeled gifted & it was not because the school was especially elite, it was because they used the WISC-R which had (old) u.s norms & Canadians score several points higher
because you’re smarter than we are?
That’s right.
Oh please…Alanis couldn’t even grasp the concept of “irony.”
What’s the “obvious one”? There are dozens of devestating critiques of CWT – it’s merely a just-so story.
It’s obvious that after living in the tropics for 25 million years, it takes more intelligence to survive somewhere new and different. Winter is more challenging than summer. Lynn wrote:
“Peoples in cold environments need more tools of different kinds and greater complexity than
peoples in tropical and sub-tropical environments. This has been shown by Torrence (1983),
who has demonstrated an association between latitude and the number and complexity of
tools used by contemporary hunter-gatherers. He found that hunter-gatherer peoples in tropical and subtropical latitudes such as the Amazon basin and New Guinea typically have between 10 and 20 different tools, whereas those in the colder northern latitudes of Siberia,
Alaska, and Greenland have between 25 and 60 different tools. In addition, peoples in cold
northern environments make more complex tools, involving the assembly of components,
such as hafting a sharp piece of stone or bone onto the end of a spear and fixing a stone axe
head onto a timber shaft.
It takes more cognition/intentionality to survive somewhere new and different? You’re saying that it “takes more of something to survive in this place instead of that place” – how is this quantified? “More of” means there is a way to measure what population A has in comparison to population B – so how is this measured? And don’t say “IQ” tests because all of your articles over the years, eg about homo erectus “IQ” are little more than speculation with no hard evidence, nevermind the assumption that IQ is causally efficacious.
(Looking at your blog searches for “homo erectus” I realized that on December 25, 2016 you had an article “I apologize to homo erectus” and then on December 30, 2016 you had an article “Homo erectus was one stupid monkey” – makes sense!)
It takes more cognition/intentionality to survive somewhere new and different? You’re saying that it “takes more of something to survive in this place instead of that place” – how is this quantified? “More of” means there is a way to measure what population A has in comparison to population B – so how is this measured? And don’t say “IQ” tests because all of your articles over the years, eg about homo erectus “IQ” are little more than speculation with no hard evidence, nevermind the assumption that IQ is causally efficacious.
Well we know human populations have IQs of 80 to 110 (in good conditions) and apes have tested IQs of 15, so obviously IQ increased in the human line in the seven million years since apes and humans split. We also know there was a parallel increase in brain size which is causal to IQ. What more evidence do you need?
Are there any NEW arguments (read: novel, recent arguments say in the past 5 years) for CWT that haven’t been refuted or is it the same old shit from 40 years ago?
If X is correlated with Y, in that if you have X you always have Y and if you have Y you always have X, and if X is a fitness-enhancer and Y isn’t, how can you say that X is selected-for over Y by NS if, to the “filter”, both traits would persist, even the one that isn’t the fitness-enhancer but merely hitches a free-ride?
Because unless X and Y are perfectly correlated, the fitness enhancer would be MORE selected than the free-rider.
I don’t see how this is a response – it directly skirts around Fodor’s conceptual issue:
“But, of course, natural selection doesn’t perform experiments; if phenotypic traits are coextensive in the environment of selection, then, if either is selected, both are.” – Fodor and Piattelli-Palmarini, What Darwin Got Wrong, p 71
Humans can perform experiments and discard free-riders, but natural selection – the supposed mechanism of trait fixation and adaptation – cannot perform such experiments, since it has no mind (there is no agency behind it) and there are no laws of selection. Therefore, your only recourse here is to argue that there are laws of selection that can distinguish between causes and correlates of causes, since laws of selection can support counterfactuals. Ceteris paribus, the likelihood that t1 wins a trait competition over t2 is massively context sensitive – it is massively context sensitive that a trait is conducive to an organism’s fitness. So the ToNS cannot predict or explain why organisms have the traits they do.
Humans can perform experiments and discard free-riders, but natural selection – the supposed mechanism of trait fixation and adaptation – cannot perform such experiments, since it has no mind (there is no agency behind it) and there are no laws of selection. Therefore, your only recourse here is to argue that there are laws of selection that can distinguish between causes and correlates of causes, since laws of selection can support counterfactuals. Ceteris paribus, the likelihood that t1 wins a trait competition over t2 is massively context sensitive – it is massively context sensitive that a trait is conducive to an organism’s fitness. So the ToNS cannot predict or explain why organisms have the traits they do.
Correlates of causes by definition don’t cause anything (or they’d be causes too), so we know the survival was caused by its cause not its correlate
peepee eats at macdonalds.
what utter trash.
I eat McDonalds ironically. Nothing ironic if you & your kind were to eat there.
McDonalds is chemically enhanced to taste great but the ingredients are trash. I rarely eat there.
honkers & shonkers = natives of hong kong and shanghai
a nickname for HSBC.
In November 2021 Staley resigned amid a regulatory probe into whether he mischaracterized his relationship with the financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
peepee actually did a post on how black dudes have the biggest johnsons.
that’s how you know she’s black.
wywomen don’t look at porn.
She looks better than your trailer park ass
FACTS:
latin america and southern africa are shitholes…even compared to the US…
but both have at least 5% of their population who live like norwegians or emerati.
whereas in pure shithole countries it’s only 0.1% at most.
why?1
wypipo?2
but how are wypipo in peru able to maintain their european living standards?3
3 questionnes peepee needs to answer.
one (possible) answer: capital is simply much more reticent when it’s not your brother you’re staking.
so the result is capital has a lower rate of return because a lower rate of deployment. but it also concentrates.
pill’s version is the dumb guy’s version.
“creative accounting” is a joke word, but…
the task of measuring a business can be creative…in the way science is creative…
that is, there’s a reality…
but…
how do you measure it?
but afaik pill is right that accountants are just rule followers…they don’t think of themselves as scientists…
would that they did.
SADLY,
peepee’s cold winter theory actually predicts european world domination.
the sun never sets on the british empire MOTTHERFUCKER!…
the greatest empire that has ever been…
and it’s still true…in a sense…
in a DEEP sense…
a DEEP…
DEEP…
sense!
how does one put it?
ah yes!
ENGLISH will DESTROY all other languages by EATING them ALIVE!
English will destroy other languages…true. But it get influenced a lot by other languages before it destroys. For example a lot of words in english are from other languages like guru, mantra, yoga, pundit are from Indian languages. Similarly it will pick up a lot from other languages too.
just as kantbot found that the best explanation for oil is that oil is sentient…
and google fired that guy who claimed LAMDA was sentient…
the english language is sentient…
that’s the best explanation for the phenomenon that is the english language…
like the austin negress personality. sad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country
america doesn’t need scientists fucktard!
it can import them!
fuck!
tard!
thus ZERO fucks given about its shitty k-12 edumacation system.
HYPS (et al) = goldman sachs of academia = their brand is “we’re the best”, so if you’re hot shit in the middle of nowhere…
you might get a phone call with a swedish accent in 15 years, but…
you’re sure to get a phone call with an american accent asking, “what’re you making?…sad!…we’ll quintuple it!”
>thus using the very synapses that are normally pruned and derailing the pruning process
Wouldn’t you expect the pruning of the synapses used for socializing rather than there being less overall pruning? Or is it that there’s a certain bias towards pruning certain synapses that generally haven’t been evolutionarily as useful, but since those synapses are being heavily used, the process is derailed? If it’s the latter, which I think the latter is what you’re saying, then I wouldn’t expect the lack of pruning to be a lifelong problem, that with enough dedication the the imbalance might eventually be fixed.
Your other suggestion sounds more likely to me. If the first suggestion is true then maybe if a neurotypical was forced to visually manipulate objects all day he’d experience less pruning overtime than someone who didn’t, since even outside of his developmental period synapses used for social reasoning would not be pruned as much.
If the pruning only happens during key developmental periods then I don’t really know, but I’m still biased towards the second suggestion.
>If the pruning only happens
If the abnormality related to pruning only happens during the developmental period of mass synaptic pruning*
Wouldn’t you expect the pruning of the synapses used for socializing rather than there being less overall pruning?
No, because we already know autistics show less overall pruning, but it’s a good question, because if the autist’s lack of pruning were caused by lack of use, you would expect social synapses to be pruned. So one possibility is that social experience is so ubiquitous that we can never totally not use our social synapses no matter how autistic we might be. By contrast, non-social tasks might be neglected for sufficiently long to trigger pruning.
Bu that sounds too much like a just-so story.
Or is it that there’s a certain bias towards pruning certain synapses that generally haven’t been evolutionarily as useful,
Doubt that. I think the whole point of pruning is that what’s useful is unpredictable thus prune whatever does not get used.
Your other suggestion sounds more likely to me. If the first suggestion is true then maybe if a neurotypical was forced to visually manipulate objects all day he’d experience less pruning overtime than someone who didn’t, since even outside of his developmental period synapses used for social reasoning would not be pruned as much.
Or conversely, if an autistic was forced to look and interact with people more often, their brains would prune properly and they wouldn’t be autistic
If the pruning only happens during key developmental periods then I don’t really know, but I’m still biased towards the second suggestion.
Yes I think the autistic brain simply doesn’t prune even if the autist were obsessed with people. But the neuro-typical brain becomes better with people because by pruning away the non-social brain, their brain has the resources to strengthen the social synapses
>I think the whole point of pruning is that what’s useful is unpredictable thus prune whatever does not get used.
You’re right, since if I were right then the only difference in pruning between autistics and neurotypicals is whether or not the non-social part of the brain is being pruned more, then I’d expect neurotypicals to be resemble an autist even in social thinking, even if social synapses are strengthened due to new found access to resources. Such a person would be better at social reasoning but wouldn’t adapt as well in the long term, since those synapses aren’t pruned as much despite not being used. I didn’t give enough consideration to the implications.
And this still assumes that pruning just happens less in autists for a reason that isn’t related to
>The brain identifies a synapse that has not been used in a certain amount of time and prunes it as redundant so that more resources can be used to strengthen the synapses that are being used (the social ones)
If I accept this as true then the actual difference between autistics and neurotypicals is decreased synaptic strengthening caused by decreased pruning caused by lifelong abnormal obsessions, although my question of why social synapses aren’t being pruned if autistic brains functionally are normal would still be up for debate.
I also think this is all wrong, though. Pruning happens less because synapses just aren’t being sufficiently pruned regardless of use, like you say. As an aspie (probably misdiagnosed since one of the criteria for being an aspie is there being no delay in speech development, whereas in my case I only learned how to talk at 3) this would map well with my experiences, even if I want to learn something it’s always an exercise in reinventing the wheel rather than reapplying already learned techniques.
My first language was one I was exposed less to before the age of 3, I learned English first because that was the language I was immersed in at 3.
I’m redesigning my ganzir.info website as a hand-coded site to replace the current WordPress blog. What do you think? I’m aiming for simplicity, ease of reading and usability, and fast loading, not necessarily a ‘modern’ look.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/23/rfu-launch-investigation-luther-burrell-racism-in-rugby-revelations
Theres definitely a qualitative difference in the racism shown towards blacks as opposed to the other races. Why won’t they ever wonder why people are racist in the first place. Nobody learns it from anyone. I was a massive liberal once and it just kind of happened to me by instinct.
Theres other more general ‘racism’ towards immigrants but that is more because people are sick and tired of being replaced by you-know-who and want their lands for themselves more than an overt hatred..unless were talking about blacks again.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/24/dina-asher-smith-in-commonwealth-games-doubt-after-injury-scare-in-relay
Look at these black women puppy. Seriously, why are they so ugly?
You’re so gay. You only see ugliness in women. You must be excited about the reboot of QUEER AS FOLK
IGN named alot of nintendo games in the top 10 greatest ever games. See Puppy, the japanese are very creative.
Being a video game designer is about a thousand times more creative than a data scientist or some scientist in a lab. Mugabe is retarded as usual. That guy in the last thread said it best – it usually involved using your imagination.
You have to admit I’m super creative. Discovering that the World’s biggest brained black & woman is also the most successful black & woman. All the theories I’ve created on my blog (high IQ gypsies, correlating the autism – schiz spectrum to Rushton’s race spectrum, cartoon social IQ test I gave you). Several people have praised my creativity.
What part of ‘data analysis is not creativity’ don’t you get? All you did was stare at the data and try to explain it. Thats not creativity at all.
Pill, remember when you tried to do a satire personality on Lion’s blog and it was so painfully unfunny that he and his readers begged you to stop & you were so humiliated you became a raging antisemite. So perhaps you’re not the best judge of creativity.
I dont remember doing that. What was the satire about?
Pumpkin tbh you sound like you havent hit puberty.
John Derbyshire on Unz says a lot of sensible stuff. But hes far to the right of me many issues.
peepee at macdonalds
LOL! That’s the opposite of me. I never complain even when they do mess up my order. I’d be the guy in the video trying to calm you down.
I worked at McDonald’s. It’s the easiest way to become racist*.
*ironically
Why Teffec ? Customers ? Co-workers ?
As for workers, in France MacDo is very Muslim North African with northern France Hillbillies. And KFC is very subsaharian. Neither is much black Caribbean.
Because you get big and diverse enough a sample to realize stereotypes are correct. The experience made me more fiscally liberal (big businesses really try to squeeze as much out of laborers for as little compensation as possible: “if you have time to lean, you have time to clean!”) but more socially conservative for sure. The problem with most people who embrace Marxism is that they are socially retarded (due in part to interacting only with highly vetted members of protected groups, for instance at elite schools) and are therefore less practical than capitalists.
Yes an urban McDonalds is a great place to learn about life. You see the full spectrum of society, from the homeless high school dropout to the millionaire PhD. Very representative sample.
Why would a millionaire Ph.D. be at McDonald’s?
Because it’s fast, convenient and delicious.
I like to prepare food in large quantities and eat smaller portions of it over time. Saves cooking time
“Because it’s fast, convenient and delicious.”
And high IQ people are not very conscientious, so they don’t support their health that much. Though you must be conscientious in some ways to become a millionaire PhD.
If creativity is only the ability to create, the scope of this item is too wide to get to any interesting nor useful conversation,
Maybe narrowing it a bit works better :
the ability, with imagination or ideas, to create either beautiful or useful, new things (physical or mental objects).
Then pattern analysis doesn’t imply nor prohibits creativity. If you find ideas who are new and either useful or beautiful, you would be creative.
I would add for scientific creativity that those new and beautiful or useful ideas should also be true in the sense of being either non self contradictory or consistant with all facts.
china was conquered by the mongolians and then by the manchus. the chin for whom chin is named came from northern china.
today these conqering peoples have lower IQs than s chinese.
yet another example of how peepeee has a low IQ.
so china’s history is like india’s.
india was conquered twice by a people from the north. by the aryans and then by some uzbeks.
sad.
china was conquered by the mongolians and then by the manchus. the chin for whom china is named came from northern china.
today these conquering peoples have lower IQs than s chinese.
[name redacted by pp, 2022-07-26]
so china’s history is like india’s.
india was conquered twice by a people from the north. by the aryans and then by some uzbeks.
sad.
today these conquering peoples have lower IQs than s chinese.
I don’t know about that
why peepee loves little caesars. she gets to beat up “white trash”.
You spend all day looking for videos of black women misbehaving at my favorite restaurants.
just search for “black woman” + name of restaurant.
sad.