In 1959, a comprehensive study of Jewish American intelligence was published by B.M. Levinson in the Journal of Clinical Psychology. The subjects were “candidates for admission to the kindergarten or first grade of day (Yeshiva) schools and ranged in age from four years six months to six years seven
months.”
MONOLINGUAL KIDS
BILINGUAL KIDS
After adjusting for the Flynn effect, the monolingual kids averaged a verbal IQ of 106 and the bilingual averaged 99, suggesting a verbal IQ of 103 for the combined sample.
For Performance IQ, the monolinguals averaged 101 and bilinguals averaged 95, for an overall average of 98.
On full-scale IQ the monolinguals averaged 104 and bilinguals averaged 98, for an overall group average of 101.
Although this study confirms the verbal > performance IQ pattern that Jewish intelligence is known for, the scores are not as high as usually reported. There are several reasons for this:
- The original WISC excluded non-whites from their norming sample so an IQ of 100 represents the average score of just white America, not America as a whole. Their scores would have been a couple points higher using norms for the entire U.S. population.
- Roughly half the sample was bilingual and these may have been unfairly penalized by language barriers (their lowest score was Vocabulary). They may also have been raised bilingual for religious reasons, suggesting low IQ heritage.
- Finally, the subjects were young children. Daniel Seligman writes: “Some studies show rising verbal scores as the Jewish children pass through school but the reasons for this increase are unclear. Some scholars view it as a maturational change, that is, the group is genetically programmed to improve its already superior verbal skills with age.” (source: A Question of Intelligence by D. Seligman, pg 131)
Pumpkin Person 
How do the full-scale IQs of the mono- and bilingual groups compare if Vocabulary is discounted?
If I remove vocabulary and prorate, their full-scale IQs go from 104 vs 98 to 105 vs 99.
Puppy I never ask you technical questions about psychometrics because I find the entire field boring but seriously, what is the point of IQ testing children?? I read sometimes in the newspaper that this or that kid has a ‘higher IQ than Einstein’. WTF. Child IQ scores are like judging a person’s looks by that age and extrapolating to them as an adult.
People who say that usually don’t know that 1) Einstein was never tested, and 2) IQ tests are normed for age.
So even if some kids really did score higher than Einstein, the scores are age adjusted so it’s not as if they got more questions right.
It’s irksome how quickly and broadly misinformation takes root. The ‘net is rife with presumptuous assertions regarding Einstein’s IQ, as well as with quotes erroneously, perhaps dishonestly, attributed to that luminary. As I’ve noted elsewhere (https://pumpkinperson.com/2015/05/28/einsteins-iq/#comment-41812), I recall twice-hearing a figure of 186 for Einstein. Both mentions were 30+ years ago, both on TV, and at least one was from a Psychologist discussing intelligence testing.
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Sorry if this is a case of lack of communication from me, but the comment was directed to pp and I posted it before I read yours. Not that I disapprove of your comment.
Flamin’,
That’s funny (but please forgive me for not saying what I was thinking 8O). Thanks, and my apologies.
worse. looks are near 100% genetic.
What do people think of 9-11? Im asking the non autistic people. Was it a false flag?
If it were a complete false flag they would have blamed it on Iraq on Iran, not Bin Laden. However I don’t think Arabs tend to have the IQ to pull off such a major attack on their own & the necons needed Arabs to attack U.S. to drag them into war with the Middle East. Thus I am certain Al Queda had help:
Pepe, I think you’re underestimating the Arabs and overestimating the difficulty of 9/11. Bin Laden was no fool; he either had a Civil Engineering degree or came very close to completing it, and he evaded the American military-industrial complex for a decade. And 9/11 wasn’t extremely difficult to coordinate under pre-9/11 security: you get 19 people to board specific planes at specific times, a few of whom have gone to flight school. The 19 people do not need to (and, for operational security reasons, should not) know the others’ tasks. They just need to catch their flight. What’s the IQ required for that? 85 to 90?
Al-Qaeda might have had help, but they didn’t need it. I suspect their “help” came in the form of bad communication between intelligence agencies.
Phillip Giraldi on Unz says it was a semi false flag whereby the neocons and mossad knew there was going to be an attack and basically ordered the Bush administration to let it happen. That explains the dancing mossad agents.
Personally I don’t think they needed to have 9-11 to get america to do whatever Israel wanted in the Mid East. They already invaded Iraq and that was a flimsy pretext in the early 90s. Israel can pretty much order the american army anywhere and theres no need for a 9-11 type incident to happen. We later saw with Syria and Libya the neocons push the humanitarian war angle and there was no need to invoke these nations as terrorist threats. Theres also the timing issue whereby it still took 2 years between the attack and the invasion of Iraq.
I guess normal people like us will never know for sure but one thing Trump got right was that Bush was horribly at fault for not keeping the country safe. Why he got a poll bump from 9-11 is entirely to do with who was controlling CNN at the time.
He got more than a poll bump. Bush was literally God after 9/11. I was in the U.S. at the time and if you could not say a single unkind thing about Bush. The entire country worshipped him more than life itself. He could have called for invading the UK and 80% of Americans would have supported him. Never has any one man had more power.
chomsky can’t be trusted but his point was a good one when asked this same question.
the consequences if discovered by people with the power to do something about it would be too dire to take the chance…if it were an inside job or mossad job or both the perps would have to be insane.
and if they had so much power to cover it up why was it necessary in the first place? if they had so much power just make up a reason to go to war with afghanistan and iraq.
the single bullet and ruby are very suspicious.
building 7 is very suspicious.
but…
why can’t people admit, “i don’t know.” like, “yes. the media and the government lie all the time. but i can’t say i know that their narrative on this point is 100% false.”
but even this theory if true could be discovered and the consequences for israel or whomever would be very bad…so too risky…right?
I am not non-autistic so I am breaking the request’s rule, but IMO at the very least they knew what was up and didn’t act to stop it intentionally.
what do people think of the reichstag fire and the assassination of kirov?
so every incentive to claim it was hitler and stalin what did it, but this is a minority view among contemporary historians.
no pill. the autistic person thinks “cui bono?” always identifies the perp.
If that rape accusation against Biden is true then I bet the neocons have sexual blackmail on Biden. His son is also very corrupt. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/14/1015895944/the-latest-ethical-pitfalls-involving-joe-bidens-son-hunter?t=1632314354715
there are many studies peepee. the above is just one. and they don’t all agree.
…candidates for admission to the kindergarten or first grade of day (Yeshiva) schools…
so totally not representative and totally not comprehensive.
sad.
and even a random sample of nyc area or miami jews is shit compared to israel, because people who live in cities score higher and israel is the only place in the world where jews don’t all live in cities. unz pointed this out.
comparing nyc jews to farm country whites is misleading. you’d need to compare them to wypipo in nyc.
Jews are mostly urban dwellers. A representative ashkenazi jew is from New York. A representative gentile white is some midwestern farm boy. Its fine to compare the 2.
actually, israel ranks #12 in urbanization of all countries so even there you’d have to compare to urban wypipo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_by_country#Countries
This is funny. The progressives blocked aid to Israel…the entire fucking system would come down on them if that had stood – politicians, media, millitary, deep state. Everyone would have put AOC in the cross hairs if you harm Mother Israel.
I loved how David Cameron tried to get the UK to invade Syria and parliament voted it down hahaha.
I think Gman should try and make it as an actor. The amount of AA in movies these days is deplorable. Now Captain America and Spiderman are black. Great.
A good example of communism vs free market anarchism is Haiti vs Cuba. Haiti was independent for 200 years longer than Cuba and avoided communism but has maybe half the standard of living as Cuba. So Cuba by dint of having more whites shows that genetics matter maybe even more than the economic system you choose.
If Cuba wasn’t under a trade embargo it would probably have a similar standard of living to Chile I think.
maybe?
I dont know man, caribbean countries are entirely run by blacks and are pretty first world. Even very safe. What do you think about that?
“caribbean countries are entirely run by blacks and are pretty first world. Even very safe.”
Which ones specifically?
St.kittts and nevis for one.
Imagine going to college in America to do a liberal arts or social science degree. Thats basically like setting your money on fire.
I would genuinely prefer to be a plumber or skilled tradesman than a heavily indebted starbucks employee or waiter.
I read somewhere that some people think computer science degrees are worthless too because what you learn in college is out of date by the time you hit the field.
yes. AND CS majors’ IQs have yuge variance from the facts i know.
you can see this in their SAT scores and GRE scores. like above average M and super low V.
but the very smartest of them are as smart as any i expect.
the super low V are probably foreigners
CS as an “academic discipline” is just a branch of math…for real…
that is, retards like eric weinstein describe engineering as downstream from science…
when the opposite is the case…
but academic CS is a branch of math for real.
this is why all the first programmers were math majors and why nobel laureate (in literature) and math major coetzee was at one time a programmer.
but since coetzee’s days it’s yugely dumbed down.
mugabe knows this from experience. the kids into computers and programming he knew were either very smart or just super nerds who were actually dumb, in the lowest math class for example, but totally obsessed with computers. it was weird. i guess like how some dumb kids become obsessed with cars or oprah.
i’ve done some programming and i was actually very talented at it, like very, but it was boring and stupid so i never tried to make a career out of it. i only took like 4 or 5 CS course in college. the people seemed really dumb.
i’ve done some programming and i was actually very talented at it, like very,
real easy thing to learn is excel vba. it’s really good for any sort of math thing. used it as actuary and later for fun. like there’s this way too complicated nerd board game called Axis and Allies.
i discovered that if the axis makes tanks and only attacks with overwhelming force and japan invades siberia…the axis always wins…so it’s a stupid game.
and i know this from a program in excel vba.
and i know this from a program in excel vba. which i wrote. very easy. very short. just a monte carlo simulation of dice rolls because no obvious closed forms.
Best degree or specialisation you could possibly pick in 2021 – data science.
Opens up basically all the top technology, finance, and government jobs. You should have done data science Puppy.
or better live in a hut in montana and eat rabbits.
reminds me peepee worships rich people.
how rich can anyone be if his wealth depends on the labor of poor people?
answer: not very.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/22/second-line-of-defence-taiwans-civilians-train-to-resist-invasion
Within 50 years China will have either invaded Taiwan or gamed the Taiwanese political system to get Anschluss.
wow. what a prediction. 50 years.
sad.
In 50 years, world will no longer be the same. 9 out of ten current people will be dead and world population will be less than 2 billion.
japan’s budget is 2.5x its federal revenues. japan’s national debt is much greater as a % of gdp than america’s. japan is old.
but japan has no inflation.
whereas brazil has inflation.
so possibility is…
europe, canada, the antipodes follow japan for a decade or two, but…
the us jackknifes and becomes brazil.
what’s the connection between the US and brazil?
DIVERSITY.
europeans are a minority at age what? they’ve been a minority of newborns for a while. modal age of whites in the US is 58.
The Economist is optimistic America will come good. It compares the current stagnation to the 70s when people also thought America was fading after the Vietnam debacle. If you believe in smart fraction theory – the smartest people in the world work in the US. It gets the best immigrants (generally). It has tons of capital. It has currency and language lingua franca. Its blessed with natural resources. There are a lot of things to be optimistic about America.
has The Economist ever been right?
My German history isn’t elite, but why didn’t Austria stay as part of Germany after WW2? Maybe this is a question for Quora.
why didn’t east germany stay a part of germany after ww ii? why didn’t austria stay as part of the austro-hungarian empire after ww i? it’s called punishing the losers.
There is a difference. After WW1 they were out to punish Germany and that resulted in WW2. After WW2 the attitude was very different, at least on the non-Soviet side.
from 2019:
https://www.brookings.edu/research/less-than-half-of-us-children-under-15-are-white-census-shows/
if wages go up that would cause inflation so wages must not go up because inflation bad.
what if prices went down?
that would be even worse. that would be deflation.
real wages for the 99% should never change. all economic growth should go to the 1%. i hate gauls.
eric weinstein calls people like rr “people who say, ‘2 + 2 = a chicken.'” he says, “these people need their own planet.”
I was too dumb for computer science. 2007
do you think that brain circumference is the iq potential of a person? like if a person didnt have a favorable environment, could one with a large brain maximize it to their potential with things like nootropics, brain training, etc? also what are your thoughts on skull shapes and iq? someone dolichocephalic could have a high circumference but due to their occiput and not temples, meanwhile brachycephalics have wider temples and less occiput, and the occiput houses more of motor functions meanwhile the temples house memory and thinking. africans are dolichocephalic and asians are brachycephalic, and they have low and high iq respectively. also geniuses throughout history like nikola tesla have very wide temples. the only exception to the rule are that nordics are dolichocephalic but i believe their iqs are high due to being forced to adapt and survive under harsh conditions early on. heres an article that talks about headshape and iq: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/big-heads-are-smart-ones-pointy-heads-are-not-5369217.html