Although the Raven Matrices is a visual test, thus making it potentially biased against Jewish verbal talent, it’s not an especially spatial test either, and seems to load on a higher level abstract thinking that transcends both domains. Indeed Jensen regarded the Raven as the purest measure of g (general intelligence).
One major Israeli study using the Raven was published by S Kaniel & S Fisherman in 1990. They compared 250 Ethiopian Jews, ages 14-15, on the Progressive Matrices Standard (PMS) test to1740 Israeli Jews, ages 9-15. They claimed “Most of the Israeli age groups functioned near the 50th percentile of Raven’s normative scale, whereas the performance of the Ethiopian Jews fell between the 5th and the 10th percentile”
However Richard Lynn was having none of it. In a 1994 commentary, Lynn noted that the that the actual percentiles of the Israeli Jews ranged from 20th to 37th and the Ethiopian Jews were at the 2nd percentile.
Over the weekend Pumpkin Person verified that the Israeli Jews did indeed score from the 20th to 37th percentile on 1979 UK norms just as Lynn claimed (IQ 87 at age 10.5 to IQ 95 at age 14.5; averaging across all ages, IQ 92), however Ethiopian Jews actually scored in the 1st percentile (IQ 65) not the 2nd percentile as Lynn had claimed.
Although the British norms were 11-years old by the time the Israeli study was published, I decided not to adjust for the Flynn effect because “Anglo” kids tested in Iowa in 1986, scored no higher than the UK 1979 norming, suggesting the Flynn effect had plateaued during that period.
If Israeli Jews average IQ 92 on the Raven, it is interesting to ask what Ashkenazi Israeli Jews score. An analysis by Hanna David and Richard Lynn found that in Israel, European Jews score about 14 IQ points higher than Oriental Jews though the gap is bigger on verbal tests. For example on the Israeli WISC, the gap was 1.1 standard deviations (SD) (17 IQ points) on verbal IQ but only 0.93 SD on Performance IQ (14 IQ points).
So let’s say on the Raven, Ashkenazi Jews score 14 IQ points above non-Ashkenzi Jews in Israel, and are 32% of Israeli Jews. Since the average Israel Jews scores IQ 92 on the Raven (if the above study was representative), then simple arithmetic tells us that non-Ashkenazi IQ is 88 and Ashkenazi IQ is 102 (at least on the Raven) though looking at table I, there might be a small tendency for Jewish IQ to improve during childhood.
Pumpkin Person 
because in israel the homeless people, the garbage men, the professional wrestlers…
they’re all jews.
I bet in Israel the homeless people are ethiopian jews or arabs.
that is, the investments may lose market value, but in general banks and insurance companies never lose money. they make a profit every year.
but what happens is as they get big they get fat and lazy and inefficient.
basically mugabe wonders if there should be stocks that aren’t bank, insurance company, REIT stocks.
it’s the nature of the system we live in that all other companies will eventually be come worthless.
WTF of course banks and insurance companies lose money. If there was no such thing as central banks it would be a regular occurence. Banks would be much smaller and regional as a result.
a great current trend is the embrace of giorgio moroder type music.
this is used on Coast to Coast AM, paul joseph watson, Strike&Mike, and…???
PP, if god comes down to earth and asks you to choose whether you want the largest head size in the world or the best brain connectome in the world, and he will grant it, what would you choose? And also why?
Puppy if a man applies for a job as a waiter in a restaraunt in Greece but can’t speak the Greek language, should he still be allowed to get a visa?
No
Pepe why are you such an evil racist Nazi that you aren’t actively suppressing every cognitive bias, moral principle, and objective fact that could lead to a conclusion other than that we should go out of our way to be as altruistic as possible towards foreigners simply because they are foreign?
Puppy what are your thought on time share condos as an investment?
“They compared 250 Ethiopian Jews, ages 14-15”
Lynn’s table states that the Ethiopians were actually ages 15-16.
Anyway, who cares what Jews scored at age 10 if data from 15 is available? Adult IQ is what matters in practice and is most stable.
“Intermarriage between Ashkenazim and Mizrahim is increasingly common in Israel and by the late 1990s 28% of all Israeli children had multi-ethnic parents” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews_in_Israel#Disparities_and_integration
yes meant to say 15-16, but the point still stands. They’re at the 1st percentile, not 2nd percentile (see page 39 for Raven norms):
Click to access RPMChangeAndStability.pdf
Yes, if Israel Jewish IQ is 95 at age 14.5, then it implies Israeli Ashkenazi IQ is around 105 at 14.5. Still probably lower than Ashkenazi American, but by less than I thought.
When I say I discovered the core of cognition I mean I have discovered the mechanism by which manipulation happens. In both the cortex and limbic system.
Amateur but very bright psychometrician Kevin Langdon dubs g as “attention in reasoning.” That seems to be what Raven taps. Is intelligence just recognition and working memory capacity? I know you like the adaptability formulation.
You might find these links interesting:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346040353_Fluid_reasoning_is_equivalent_to_relation_processing
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3811950/
Definitely interesting! Thanks
No problem!
Intelligence has been a mystery since the very beginning of a.i. research in 1956. But as cognitive science advanced more and more was known about how we think. As is the key is mediated feedback. The thing is General intelligence is hard to program in a computer because the circuit was not known previously as what it did. Thinking is causal reasoning. Which is coming up with new ideas to solve problems. And in technical terms is called a conditional, (if x then y). This is the rational part of the brain but there is also perception. The feedback between the front of the brain and back of it creates mental manipulation. Actions are mediated by perception and in turn, perceptions change.
What makes humans smart is their ability to experiment. But to do so the brain regions must take turns. By taking turns the brain regions can test if what they are doing is working. And by taking turns these regions can simulate multiple possibilities in real-time selecting the best strategy.
Lastly, the limbic system gives emotional value to things.
how much of life success can be compartmentalized into categories aside from intelligence. many people with higher intelligence and intellectual capabilities never find a niche nor end up being successful.
imagination and creativity are entities that depend on intelligence but because intelligence is only pattern recognition and assortment and because imagination and creativity are usually unstructured capabilities there is a strong indication that the different traits are going to have underlying differences for a fact.
LOADED, have you ever considered converting to judaism is moving to israel?
i actually am probably related to the middle eastern jews either directly or through my pashtun ancestry whom have been tied to the lost tribes of israel.
i dont think id fit in israel although my yearnings for biblical surroundings is pretty high! if you give advices in that direction Mug I might just have to take a shot at it!
i bet $9 out of every $10 made in rap goes into a jew’s pocket.
WTF where are my questions?
This is funny. We don’t even have the option of doing degrees in ‘communications’ in Europe. I guess the closest thing would be what they have in the UK called ‘media studies’. Hahaha
Also I notice in the comment thread a load of people saying their psychology degrees are just as useless for getting a job. What do you think puppy? Was it hard getting a job out of college?
No, when you’re young it’s easy to get a job.
Ok I messaged the senior partner and he looked at my profile last night. Maybe he’ll realise I’m a diamond in the rough (like very rough – mental illness, can’t keep a job etc).
I originally enrolled in a joint arts degree philosophy/economics then switched to business/econ/social studies. Kind of regret it perhaps as philosophy is a lot more intellectually challenging than what I did.