Commenter Hail asked me to estimate Kamala Harris’s IQ and given her similarity to Barack Obama, I thought it would be a good idea to revisit his IQ to boot. Both are late boomer Afro-multiracial second generation immigrant lawyers from elite backgrounds who grew up to be the first non-whites on a major presidential ticket.
African Americans are 12.7% of the population, but about 10% of them do not have enough sub-Saharan ancestry (>50%) to technically qualify as black. Thus 1.27% of Americans are Afro-multiracial.
Assuming 1.27% of America’s 76 million baby boomers (some are dead) are also Afro-multiracials, that’s 965 thousand people. Now assuming the average U.S. Afro-multiracial has an IQ of 93 (half-way between the U.S. white and black means of 100 and 85 respectively; most U.S. Afro-multiracials are hybridized whites) with a standard deviation (SD) of 15, if there were a perfect correlation between IQ and power, we’d expect the two most powerful U.S. Afro-multiracials ever (Obama and if elected Harris) to have IQs 71 and 69 points above the Afro-multiracial average. But since the correlation between IQ and power is only about 0.37, their expected IQs would only be about 37% as extreme, so 26 points above the Afro-multircial mean which would put them at 119.
But it’s unlikely both Obama and Harris have the statistically expected IQ of the most powerful African Americans. To add more precision to our estimate, let’s compare their education levels to other U.S. Afro-multiracials who’ve enjoyed comparable power:
- Colin Powell City College of New York (BS) George Washington University (MBA)
- Condi Rice University of Denver (BA, PhD) University of Notre Dame (MA)
- Susan Rice Stanford University (BA) New College, Oxford (MPhil, DPhil) Chatham House, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, honored her dissertation as the UK’s most distinguished in international relations.
- Valerie Jarrett Stanford University (BA) University of Michigan (JD)
- Eric Holder Columbia University (BA, JD)
- Cory Booker Stanford University (BA, MA) The Queen’s College, Oxford (MA) Yale University (JD)
Obama’s education ( Columbia University (BA) a Harvard University (JD) magna cum laude ) would put him at or slightly above all six members of our control group so let’s say his education is at the top one in seven level compared to other Afro-multiracial super elites. Assuming Afro-multiracial super elites have an SD of 13.94 (since they’re selected for power which correlates 0.37 with IQ, their SD would be slightly less than the typical 15), if there were a perfect correlation between IQ and education, we’d expect Obama’s IQ to be about 15 points above the Afro-multiracial super-elite mean of 119.
But in fact the correlation is much lower than perfect. In the general U.S. population (and presumably within U.S. racial groups), the correlation between IQ and education is 0.57, but to estimate the correlation among Afro-multiracial super-elites, we need to know the correlation holding power constant. Assuming a 0.37 correlation between IQ and power and a 0.5 correlation between education and power, the partial correlation between IQ and education is 0.48.
Thus, instead of being 15 IQ points smarter than the average 119 IQ Afro-multiracial super-elite, Obama would be (0.48)15 = 7 points smarter, or IQ 126.
This seems a little low for Obama given that his LSATs might have been in the 94th to 98th percentile of LSAT takers (who themselves tend to be in the top percentiles of the general population). On the other hand, Obama was a very uneven debater, and a former “CIA” guy claims that Chinese spies found Obama’s childhood IQ (as measured by the WISC) to have been 128 (somewhat lower when you adjust for old norms), so perhaps 126 is spot-on. Indeed back in 2009, Steve Sailer estimated Obama’s IQ to be 125.
What about Harris? Her education (Howard University (BA)
University of California, Hastings (JD)) puts her near the bottom of our above control group of six Afro-multiracial super-elites (17th percentile). If there were a perfect correlation between IQ and education, we’d expect her to be 13 points dumber than this group’s 119 average, but given the partial correlation of 0.48, we might guess she’s (0.48)13 points dumber, so IQ 113. This may seem a little low given her Brahman heritage on her mother’s side, but it’s consistent with estimates in the blog’s comment section and consistent with her debate performance where she came out strong with her rehearsed take-down of Joe Biden, but couldn’t adapt when ambushed by Tulsi Gabbard.
Pumpkin Person 
In quantitative terms, information processing quadruples every 20 points. power 2 every 10 pts.
100 – 1
120 – 4
140 – 16
160 – 64
180 – 256
200 – 1,024
In qualitative terms things get fuzzy. quality is based on understanding or nested dependencies. (((context))). Higher-order associations. Autism is a problem of 1st order association. They lack second-order associations. Third-order makes you a social genius. 4th order probably is a complete theory of social physics.
So if we negate Autism then IQ is quality (high order association)
My IQ is the same as Harris. quant. 112.
Id estimate your IQ to be 104 Anime. That is my legit impression thus far. Please dont be mad or jealous of others it is not okay.
HAHAHA you said his essay was brilliant and you could understand it loaded.
Who was I mad at?
I thought you were mad at Harris because you deserve to be VP and she doesnt.
I am into a.i. not politics.
pumpkin is the one that said her IQ was 113 same as mine 112.
what makes you think it doubles every 10 points?
It must be more than 5 but less than 20 because both of those give ridiculous results. 10 is the medium.
IQ’s predictive validity fades out as you go beyond 130, so this is cringe LARP.
Do you even read this blog Julius? Everything on here is cringe LARP you frickin dumbass.
Thata the whole point of this blog you retarded shit.
I would have preferred Warren but I can see why he picked Kamala. I was reading a bloomberg article which said the reaction on wall street was very positive because he didn’t pick warren.
I dont understand why wall st doesnt like trump. He does everything they want on regulations and taxes.
But then I do understand that (((they))) also have a social agenda they want implemented.
They also just want someone competent running the country and Trump isn’t. Biden isn’t either but at least he’s humble enough to listen to people who are.
it’s definitely for the social issues. When I watch cnbc the commentators never give off the impression that he’s incompetent but they’re always promoting social justice and environmental boondoggles that contradict his public stances.
the economist and bloomberg aren’t representative of wall st. thinking—only for people <35. most senior guys like trump slightly more.
This is a very good analysis of Wall St donations.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-06/schwarzman-s-wallet-props-up-wall-street-elite-s-giving-to-trump
Yes that’s a very interesting article. Lots of bias confirmation but it’s good to see that at least the Goya CEO cares about political correctness and censorship. It’d be nice to have a powerful person like that in our corner.
if he wanted to win he’d’ve picked bernie.
but couldn’t because bernie is a “white” man?
makes me think the dems WANT to lose.
I’ve probably said it before, but the fact that Bernie was sidelined over Biden is proof enough that this whole Jewish conspiracy is nothing but autistic nonsense.
Seriously think about it. Bernie represents every ideology that supposedly is the core of the “anti-white agenda”: Open borders, Criminal justice reform, LGBT rights, Feminism, Democratic socialism, etc. AND HE’S JEWISH! So, why was he shafted for Biden?? I mean the DNC probably believes he has a better chance of being elected because of his centrism, but he’s incredibly incompetent and the only way he would win is if Trump “out stupids” him (which might actually be happening).
But we’re aren’t talking about what the DNC wants, but what the Jewish overlords whom supposedly wish to implement white genocide want, and yet Trump is president, not Hillary or Bernie.
If Trump supposedly is against Jewish interests then how did these “all powerful” (like Philo believes) beings allow him to become president? Why is his daughter marrying a Jewish man and converting to Judaism? Conservative Presidents ALWAYS support Israel. But even if he’s just another puppet for the Jews, Bernie is still a better candidate, even with his pro Palestine views.
And of course, the media controls Trump. He feeds off of their accusations and they know it. Every little charge serves to confuse the populace and cover up every fucked up thing he does behind the scenes while simultaneously adding fire to his rabid fan-base: “duHUhUH TrUmP iS sO iNtElLiGenT” “He’S pLaYinG 5D cHeSs!”
This just proves it’s never been about race BUT CLASS! Biden keeps the rich richer, Trump keeps the rich richer, but BERNIE DOESN’T!
Bernie is not liked by Steve Schwarzman or Robert Rubin ergo he doesnt have a chance because similar rich jews won’t like bernie. Bernie is actually anti-open borders and very anti Wall St. He only changed his stance on immigration a bit when he campaigned for president. He hasn’t made clear his opinion but I suspect its now the dem mainstream.
Anyways Michael Bloomberg ran and the entire media swooned. But controlling the media isn’t enough sometimes – e.g. trump got elected despite the entire media being against him.
I never said jews were omnipotent. I said they had a lot of power. Probably equal to gentile power in the US because its concentrated and organised unlike gentiles who are split by class or race.
I never said jews were omnipotent. I said they had a lot of power. Probably equal to gentile power in the US because its concentrated and organised unlike gentiles who are split by class or race.
You’re finally getting it.
“trump got elected despite the entire media being against him’
You’re an idiot. The media was not against Trump.
“Probably equal to gentile power in the US”
That flies in the face of every conspiracy you’ve stated here. You’re only saying this now because I’ve poked a giant hole in your bullshit theories.
You know I’m right. So get on your knees or fuck off.
Pumpkin person, what equation did you use to find the partial correlation between IQ and education taking into account power?
(IQ vs education correlation) – (power vs education correlation)(IQ vs power correlation)
________________________________________________________________________________________________
SQUARE ROOT OF: [(1 – ((power vs education correlation)^2) ((1 – IQ vs power correlation)^2))]
Puppy says this is math that Prometheus taught him.
Pumpkin Person, what equation do you use to find partial correlations?
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/aug/14/families-trying-to-cross-the-channel-dunkirk-france
Notice the way volunteers to help migrants/illegal immigrants are always women. I bet if they counted it, it would be 80% women plus. This is why women shouldn’t run countries. They make decisions based on cute children, not rational thought.
This song mirrors the way I think when I’m on cocaine. Wish I had a plug where I’m at rn.
just say NO!
just say NO!
my dad got into all the schools he applied to for UG when it wasn’t that hard. i axed him, “why not princeton where grandpa went? that would’ve been a legacy for your own chillens.” he told me, “harvard was where john kennedy went to school. i couldn’t turn it down.”
but after kennedy there has NOT been a single harvard college grad president.
obama did harvard law and W did HBS.
“but about 10% of them do not have enough sub-Saharan ancestry (>50%) to technically qualify as black.”
I mean, you’re using a social term (“black”) then saying that they don’t have enough SSA ancestry to qualify as “black”? Can two people from the same mixed-race family be (socially) different races?
I’m using African-American as a social term and black as a technical term. All U.S. blacks are African American, but not all African Americans are black.
like elon musk?
I was thinking of people with visible but sub-majority sub-Saharan ancestry.
“social race” is a DUMB concept for DUMB people like rr.
race = where were your ancestors living 6,000 years ago?
that’s all it means.
the term “black” is POLYSEMOUS you fucking retarded guido.
in america it means, “do you have ANY SSA ancestry which is NOTICEABLE?”
in haiit and brazil it means a subset of these people.
SO THE FUCK WHAT?
almost every word is POLYSEMOUS.
“race = where were your ancestors living 6,000 years ago?”
And Mugabe is so stupid he doesn’t see how complex answering that question could be.
Honestly RR you have the dumbest fucking questions sometimes…
so i can say, “all of my ancestors live in europe 6,000 years ago” therefore i am european/white.
RACE = geographic origin where the world is carved up into those regions which are separated from one another by YUGE barriers to gene flow…like the sahara desert and the himalayas, etc.
you can still see these barriers in a population density map of the earth.
but there’s this corridor in “east bengal” vs burma.
where caucasian and mongoloid blend.
and then there’s the whole caucasian vs australoid distinction within india.
it’s interesting that southern india has been outperforming.
If you follow RRs logic every label is socially constructed and since we dont share minds, as fellow autistics we can never know what other people mean when they say a word like ‘race’.
^^^^^
This is called analytical philosophy
Pumpkin, Kamala Harris is a Brahmin and descendant of slave owners. I doubt her IQ is below 120.
Billy Brahmins are a very large and diverse “demographic/population.” Also youve invested too much cognitive energy into believing that racial IQs meaning the average iqs of different races accounts for the majority of the influence of the IQ of an individual.
This would be wrong since a bell curve exists for all populations and allows for some to be really dumb or really smart within a population accompanied by the fact that some populations have a skew left or right determining their starting point.
Im sure a pure Brahmin would be very smart nonetheless but with all the miscenegation around the world and even between caste systems purity becomes a big issue.
Loaded is angry hes a dalit
No shit.
Stfu Pill ur a literal schizo the worst thing you could be in life.
And Billy if its so obvious that your comment was pure shit why would you even say it in the first place? I just wanna know how retarded you are for making such broad generalizations about race when it clearly serves no purpose to your well being as a person (the fact that youre a black that has a supposed high IQ contradicts the entirety of your assertions on race as monoliths) and the fact that youre oblivious to race being less important to intelligence than your immediate lineage something you are again a supposed testament to.
Obviously there’s a huge range of IQ in every race & class, but her having Brahman & slave owning ancestry increases the odds of her being smart. That’s all billy meant.
Billy and Pilly are so retarded they think that race has everything to do with an individuals intelligence when in fact there are so many factors involved such as deterioration of the quality of a race and the principle that in large populations you cant just assume someones intelligence quantitatively without looking at what they did to get to where they are.
The best example being that Brahmins immigrating to another country will be the lesser equivalents of their cousins living back at home since they could not find opportunity in their country.
If all this seems obvious to you Billy and Pilly congratulations but I would stop posting stupid opinions of this variety or face being called out on your idiocy.
Simple as that. You retarded fucks.
What loaded is trying to say is not to judge dalits as having low IQ.
As we all know there are such things as IQ tests and we can never figure out how to calculate group averages or medians.
Pill youre a Gypsy you come from a lineage of retards as told to us by you. Stop pretending you have any credibility over me…please for your sake.
“but bernie is too old” someone might say.
this is just racism against old people.
yeah! in general old people are dumb, but afaik there are lots of people bernie’s age who are sharper than 99% of of 20 year olds.
it’s the ecological fallacy applied to age…
why is this acceptable?
it’s like…
what old people do you know?
do you know any?
Old people are dumb as shit and science proves it. Just look at how rapidly fluid intelligence declines as you age.
Im sure there are some still sharp enough but thats like trying to find a needle in a haystack…or an Einstein in Africa.
Just ask Billy he’ll tell you all about it.
Creative genius isn’t merely a factor of IQ.
Youre not a creative genius Billy nor are there many from Africa with a hundred percent SSA heritage that can claim to be creative geniuses.
Most have white admixture to be frank.
so when i say my mom’s dad, my maternal grandfather, was cosa nostra…
i’m just assuming AND it’s a matter of semantics.
he was a CAREER CRIMINAL and and honest man at the same time, because his criminal activities paid so little OR
because he was…
being extorted
an addicted gambler
what?
don’t know.
BUT NO WAY was what he was into not under mercello.
so say i.////
I understand what Billy meant Pumpkin and can totally see why he would assert that race and intelligence go hand in hand at times but its certainly not an end all be all if you will.
And its not just billy but a lot of commenters here have assumed either in the past and some till this day that race is the determinant in how someone will fare in terms of IQ. I think thats absurd and just wanted to educate him and anyone else who might have these perceptions that they are in fact wrong.
pill is guilty of this. He acts like every successful black is just a mindless tool for jews and that every jew is a genius
Let’s say 10 percent of elites were Jewish. And half of them supported phills views and half were against. That leaves 45 percent of white elites supporting the view of the Jews phill dislikes. More white elites are against phill than jews yet phill blames jews for everything. WTF. Half of the people not Jewish are against phills view so he blames the minority. What is wrong with him?
Among the super elite it’s probably closer to 50%. And they have much more control because of the media’s hairtrigger reaction to “antisemitism”
They’re about a 1/3rd of America’s richest & most powerful (as listed by Forbes) but on certain issues where they’re very passionate, they get their way because the remaining 2/3rd are too divided, opportunistic or apolitical to oppose them
Puppy do I have to staple the meaning of ‘elite’ to your fucking head???? Why are you always saying the elites are the forbes list – theyre not. Michael Froman for example has more power than the entire Walton family and they are 1000 times richer.
Forbes has one list for the richest people and a separate list for the most powerful people (there’s a lot of overlap). The power list is probably much less accurate since power is much harder to estimate than wealth:
https://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/list/
If Harris’ IQ is in the 110s, as PumpkinPerson’s analysis concludes is most likely, and if she does become president after an incapacitation of Joe Biden, she would be at the very bottom on the list of presidential IQs, possibly dead-last, if we trust the Simonton 2006 presidential IQ study (see page 7): https://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jcampbel/documents/SimontonPresIQ2006.pdf
I think that study is a known fake.
PP thinks presidents average IQ 130 with sd 15. We’ve had almost 50 presidents so you’d expect the dumbest president so far to be around IQ 100.
He was probably Grant or Andrew Johnson.
SD probably lower than 15 but I agree the dumbest would be below 110
Trump is probably the dumbest academically and greatest socially.
The hoax one was released associated with the 2000 Bush-Gore election and claimed W Bush had a sub-100 IQ.
This one is not a hoax. Is based in part on a 1926 study. It puts Grant at 115 or 130 (there are two estimates for each using different data). Grant is the only president who gets a sub-120 IQ estimate in this paper. I can’t imagine a successful general would be an IQ100’er.
It’s not a hoax but iirc they seem to be estimating IQ from the personality trait openness as assessed by how each president is described in his biography. Do you think that’s valid?
My opinion of trump has changed since he first came onto the scene. I was influenced by Scott Adams thoughts about trump being a strategic 4d chess master genius and after reading Michael Wolffs book I realise that trump is basically a really good salesperson but not a very good organiser or strategy person.
Steve Sailer’s take on trump is probably closest to what I think now – hes kind of the little boy who said the emperor has no clothes and his run exposed a lot of the pc shit the danes have been shovelling into our food for the past 2 decades.
Without Trump someone like Jeb would have been elected the republican candidate and as we know Jeb and Hilary are more or less the same candidate. Thats what we would have gotten instead.
^^^this^^^
Maybe there’s some blackmail involved too. Not pushing the wall/immigration doesn’t make much sense without it.
But then again, his campaign scandals didn’t harm him at all so what kind of blackmail could he possibly be afraid of? He’s definitely not a chimo.
“trump is basically a really good salesperson but not a very good organiser or strategy person.”
There was an analysis done of the text of speeches and conversion to “grade levels,” a common thing you see in children’s education both to recommend what books to read and what progress children are making in reading. You can argue whether it applies to grown adults and how they choose to make their political rhetoric, but at least it’s quantifiable and so not guesswork.
Search for article at “Trump Speaks At Fourth-Grade Level, Lowest Of Last 15 U.S. Presidents, New Analysis Finds”
Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter spoke at the highest grade level (11th grade).
FDR, the two Bushes, Truman, and Trump speak at the lowest grade level. Trump at the 5th grade level according to that study. From this we’d expect Trump at the bottom end of the presidential range on IQ.
Two very good articles in a row Pumpkin. Thanks. Now , you are an expert on factoring trait impact, in particular IQ.
Thanks. I’m glad you enjoyed them.
How are you defining “expert”? I’d hesitate to call myself an “expert” in my field and I’ve been at it almost ten years.
rr smokes. why are his comments still allowed?
Everyone who wastes my time is a murderer. That’s time off my life.
I am not an expert on experts rr. There is this 10k hours rule of thumb. But I try a spontaneous answer:
I would say if you are able to spot some precise errors everyone would agree about on a handbook presenting or about your topic – be it bodybuilding or evolutionary psychology – you are an expert enough for me.
If you can do that on very particular research topics on your field, and the writer agree with it, you are either a top expert or someone blessed or cursed with too much logic.
Given your intellectual energy, I am sure you are an expert in the fields you have been interested in RR.
And btw I have a question. I am in Barcelona and I met a very nice spanish couple who are infertile. They are going to use Ukrainian surrogacy. I was wondering how much of the surrogate mother own genetic material if any with make the child different from what he would have been if bared by it’s biological mother ? (Sperm and ovule will be from the couple. It’s only she can’t bare it without risking dying).
Kamala Harris isn’t a off spring of slave owners, she isn’t even black, her parents are indian.
Your just regurgitating the same shot that Fake News MSM speed from their
godless mouths