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childhood IQ vs adult IQ, IQ, Marilyn Vos Savant, stability coefficients, The Mega Test, The Stanford Binet, Wechsler intelligence scales
Commenter pumpkinhead has some questions which I posted below in red (with my answers in black).
1) What is the correlation of a childhood IQ test(say WISC) to an adult IQ(say WAIS)? 12 vs 18+ years old lets say…?
Below are all the studies I’ve found on the long-term stability of Wechsler IQ. The median correlation is 0.84.
| Approximate age at initial testing | Age at retesting | Correlation | Study | sample size |
| 2 | 9 | 0.56 | Humphreys (1989) | ? |
| 2 | 15 | 0.78 | Humphreys (1989) | ? |
| 9 | 15 | 0.47 | Humphreys (1989) | ? |
| 9.5 | 23.5 | 0.89 | Mortensen et al (2003) | 26 |
| 29.7 | 41.6 | 0.73 | Kangas & Bradway (1971) | 48 |
| 50 | 60 | 0.94 | Mortensen & Kleven (1993) | 141 |
| 60 | 70 | 0.91 | Mortensen & Kleven (1993) | 141 |
| 50 | 70 | 0.90 | Mortensen & Kleven (1993) | 141 |
2) Is the 95% CI usually around 20 points at the average, gets narrower as the IQ increases and then gets wider again once we get to genius levels?
Confidence Intervals used in IQ testing assume a bivariate normal distribution and thus are the same at all IQ levels though the gap between one’s measured IQ and whatever variable it’s being used to estimate (i.e. “true” IQ) increases the further one’s measured IQ is from the mean. But the 95% confidence interval is always 1.96 multiplied by the standard error of the estimate.
3) Are IQ tests for <12 year olds less accurate, get more accurate for 12-17 yo and even more so for adults(18+)?
Even in early childhood the Wechsler IQ tests are incredibly reliable and load extremely high on g (the general factor of all cognitive abilities). But IQ correlates much less with DNA at younger ages so that might be telling us it’s much less accurate in childhood after all.
4) On a more anecdotal level Marylyn Vos Savant is reputed to have scored a 228 at 10(albeit with shoddy extrapolations) and then again in adulthood scored a 186 on the Mega test. That is a 42 point difference, what is the probability that someone could have such a gap with the WISC and WAIS?
The probability would increase the further you get from the mean. So assuming a 0.84 correlation between childhood and adult IQ, someone who was 128 IQ points above the mean (IQ 100) at age 10 (IQ 228), would be expected to be 0.84(128) = 108 points above the mean in adulthood (IQ 208) and we could say with 95% certainty that their adult IQ would be from 192 to 224.
Why did the prediction miss in Marilyn’s case? For starters The 1937 Stanford Binet she took at age 10 has a mean of 101.8 and a standard deviation (SD) of 16.4 while the Mega Test has a mean of 100 and an SD of 16. If both her scores were converted to the Wechsler scale (which uses a mean of 100 and an SD of 15), she would have scored 215 in childhood and 181 in adulthood. Then consider that the Stanford Binet was 19 years old when she took it, and old norms inflate test scores by as much as 3 points per decade (in the short-term) and her childhood score was really more like 209.
Then consider she took two different tests (the Stanford Binet at age 10 and the Mega in adulthood). Even at the same age, different IQ tests typically only correlate 0.8, so the 0.84 correlation between childhood IQ and adult IQ might be more like 0.84(0.8) = 0.67 when different tests are used at each age.
The expected adult IQ of someone who scores 109 points above the mean at age 10 (IQ 209) is 109(0.67) above the mean which equals IQ 173 (95% confidence interval of 151 to 195) so her childhood IQ actually underpredicted her adult IQ which is surprising since her childhood IQ was based on dubious extrapolation of the mental age scale.
Pumpkin Person 
Im about to start working for my countrys central bank btw in about a week but not in the monetary function. Maybe I can get better answers then.
The thing with IQ test is that except if you get a perfect score, nobody’s happy with its own score . I guess in Mega as the 3 best scores were 46 out of 48, and Langan cheated to get a 47 after its 42 on first try, everyone of the admitted must have felt bad about their score.
My girlfriends sister is always happy with all what she gets but then this state of mind has a consequence that she does almost nothing because she has a O motivation. So she would do only the bare minimum just to go forward and she is happy. So she is an independant computer scientist working maybe 10 hours a week and earning 3k a month when her sister is an anaesthetist working 70 hours a week and making 30k a month. And I eveluate that she has 10 IQ points above my gf (155 versus 145).
So the psychology rule about IQ test would be :
if you want to do an IQ test (meaning not only solving the problems and checking the answers, but giving the answer to someone who scores them), it means you probably shouldn’t do
an IQ test, except if your are sure you would be happy with the score 😊
As an adult, I’ve taken 2 tests.
I’ve tried to dissect them to see what they mean.
I do not care how high or how low.
I just want to know how my brain works.
example: 38 points difference between Perceptual and processing.
Pumpkin does not want to diagnose me so evades my questions.
I can understand the Autism question is a no go but why not the IQ one?
I am an odd sample. I want to know why? it won’t hurt my ego.
Usually, the 4 indices line up lest than 20p difference.
If one is extremely high compared to another,
that means something important.
It is like the 4 limbs being off by 8in theoretically.
That would result in an abnormal gait IQ wise.
IQ gait being abnormal would explain things significantly.
Cognitive tempo
My gf major achievement was when she was 23, in France there is a competition similar to USMLE step 1, for all 6 years medical students to choose their residency : field and place. The hospital doesn’t choose you, you choose depending how you rank.
This ranking is not as important in terms of prestige as ENA and Polytechnique, but if you are top 100 (out of 8000 6 years student, you can pass it only once) , you do what you want and you can get funded to do a scientific PHD at the same time that your 4/5 years residency which would help you being a University tenured medical professor.
If you are bottom 2000, you have to be GP (average salary is 65k versus 110k for specialist after paying all social expenses), work medicine, Public health medicine, biologist or psychiatrist.
So she worked a lot (like100 hours per week) during one year and got n1 out of 8000. Now she tells that lots of patients google her, and know this Fact and are impressed. That’s a big deterrent to get sued if something goes wrong. People believe they are put to sleep by Miss House.
Just seen this really interesting conversation between Langan and Jensen, while I was looking for something to read about IQ on my train journey now (It’s a Mega foundation, maybe a spin off of Mega society)
Click to access geniusintelligents-110623145954-phpapp02.pdf
I didn’t know this french site but it has plenty of cool material mostly in English about intelligence
la griffe du lion?
Thanks for including the interview, Bruno. Really interesting stuff. Question: When you say “gf,” is it only to not waste time, or is it also a pun?
Pumpkin I have just checked , on you gestalt IQ test you had 330 votes and 86 perfect scores with IQ above 137.
So if you readership is the same, you have a reservoir of :
5 people at 8
12 people at 7
16 people at 6
So now you have only 10% of what you should have if you repeat the Gestallt experiment (wich was very cool). My mum was very impressed because she needed 10 minutes to see the last picture but when it popped in her mind, it was a very transformative experience for her and she loved it. Shouting all
over the place (Spanish woman). My sister didn’t bother to search. And my girlfriend saw it immediately. Her sister too. And her parents too. Half of my friends didn’t see it by themselves but only 10% were enable to see it even when told.
That implies 26% of readers have IQs of 137+. If the 10 regular commenters are representative of the total readership & if virtually all the top talent among the regular 10 attempted this new quiz, then the top 2 or 3 true scores (6+) should equate to IQ 137+. So maybe my norming was a little too generous
The 10 commenter is too small a base to be compared to the 330 people who took your Gestallt IQ test. You may re-scale it if you get more people to take it.
Probably the test should be taken in no more than 1 hour. It should be a limited time test because it’s not a power-test, even if the questions are harder than a normal Mensa test. Hope you get more volunteers.
apparently that rpm question in outliers was unsolvable in the first edition because misprint.
but the solution with the correct print is just too fucking “clever”…i mean no one would get it in the time allowed except by chance.
– what is the rpm question Robert ? The time allowed and the correct print ? I don’t understand what you are talking about.
– she (Gina LoSasso or something like that ) is a psychologist. She looks nice. She gives prole vibes as LoB would say but it’s perfect because Langan is Uber-prole. There is another high IQ liberal who was an actor in California and who is also very prole (despite having all the criteria not to be). I imagine they are friends (despite Langan being religious and more conservative, probzbly nationalist and populist. Vos Savant is also the same as Langan but with a high class vibe despite coming from a Low middle class background).
– I have read half of it, and i am gonna finish it now. Jensen is the definition of the good scientist. Reasonable. Measured. Well researched. Really love his answers. Questions are good too.
– I remember an interview where Langan was speaking about episodic memory and saying that he didn’t believe intelligent people should keep it in their mind because it would be like keeping and filling a trashbin of life and that it could hinder reasoning. I can’t find the video. I am interested in it because I discovered 3 years ago that I didn’t have mind travel capacity nor episodic memory (at least no recall) so I am a « pathological case » of someone who can’t keep any experiences with himself. When I discovered that people could do mental travel, it was like discovering that people could cross walls or move objects with their mind !
langan’s wife seemed like a much more legit high IQ person than langan.
if what she said about herself is true.
That’s
Stfu you dumb half gook. Gooks are the dumbest and weakest members of our society. Let em rot!
Jk Santo love you but the gooks gotta go.
Hahahaha what the fuck is wrong with you.
Dear lord…
https://images.app.goo.gl/WYr8qKJUxjHLDss17
I have looked at the 6 again but this time after having read Wikipedia, and there is also two possibilities wich I find relevant :
1) the simplest one is the fact that the Sovereign was the only one on the list whose value is not fraction of a Pound but an entire pound. I would guess that is the right answer …
2) a more complicated but more subtle (I don’t think it’s the right answer) but on the same idea of considering the fraction of the coin could be this one :
The Florin was the only one who was created as a decimal of the pound. The other one were created in non-decimal units of the pounds or just one pound. That’s because the florin was 2 shillings and the pound was 20 shillings, so the florin was 10% of a shilling wich is a decimal. Else decimalization occurred very late in the UK. But it’s a bit too complicated considering the general level of the test
I suppose we can discuss the answers now. I don’t like this test much so don’t mind if it gets spoiled.
But I should probably reduce your true score to 7 since you got item 6 right for the wrong reason 🙂
What was the answer to number 1?
stalk
You’re still overthinking it. Sovereign is the only one you can still use.
That’s not the “right” reason either. I have to deduct your true score now too. 🙂
LOL but I proved I could solve the months one.
Sovereign is gold. All the others are silver.
^^Correct
I gave this one about gold Pumpkin !
But there many other reasons equally admissible
My apologies. You gave so many explanations that I missed that one.
😂
ma’an…
Imagine being mind controlled like Meloaded into thinking black ‘women’ are hot. Wow.
blacks ARE privileged compared to whites when whites doesn’t include (((whites))).
why was “the first black president” NOT black?
serious question!
do you claim east african blacks are smarter than west african blacks?
they DO suck at sprinting.
pretty sure barack can’t dunk.
What was it the Geroge Floyd did anyway to be arrested?
the police will be acquitted and then more riots. coroner says floyd died from natural causes not asphyxiation, namely a heart attack, one of the symptoms of which iss shortness of breath. the other cops will support chauvin. floyd resisted arrest quite vigorously. he was arrested for counterfieting.
The independent autopsy results just got released and it says he died from asphyxiation. It’s an obvious gay op but it’ll keep the riots going.
You think the cop who had his knee on the guys neck until he died screaming “I can’t breath” deserves to be acquitted?
You literally can’t reason with people like Autist or Philo. Black people aren’t allowed to be victims because it derides their entire narrative.
They tried justifying the joggers death until they got shutdown by the actual legal code.
Here he is again doing the same thing. It’s all purely ideology driven not empirical. This time if the evidence disagrees it’s a “coverup”
Stop being a fake SJW and post my comments you [redacted by pp. june 1, 2020]
Puppy try to be objective for once rather than rushing to the aid of a black person just because hes black.
”obvious gay op”
obsession
get-out-of-closet
yes.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/01/palestinian-lives-matter-israeli-police-killing-of-autistic-man-draws-us-comparison
I want you to comment on this story puppy and compare or contrast why the media is ignoring it but egging on the floyd protestors.
Probably because that’s not in America dumbass.
Also you do realize the vast majority of liberals do not support Israel?
i watched that vid peepee posted and one thing was OVERWHELMINGLY obvious.
DUDE COULD BREATHE!
MeLo, I’m not a retarded glowposter. I was on-board with this being a homicide until the first autopsy came out.
But I have no reason to believe the [redacted by pp, june 2, 2020] autopsy results over the local coroner’s.
If we just look at what’s clearly evident from the video, not only was the cop using excessive force but he was using potentially deadly force, on an already immobilized and incapacitated individual no less, who at that point posed no threat to anyone. He did this, reportedly for 8 minutes so this sets the foundations for what is potentially the minimum penalty that can be imposed on the cop, that of involuntary manslaughter.
However once we delve deeper into the details we find that the man was voicing his extreme discomfort numerous times in a way that any rational person would understand that a continuation of the actions that were taken would be life threatening. The cop ignored all of that and reportedly continued to put pressure on the man’s neck for a further 3 minutes after Floyd had lost consciousness. All this could push this case to voluntary manslaughter levels(up to 10 years in jail i believe).
A couple of interesting points:
1) Some people think that just because he could voice that he couldn’t breathe this means that it is proof that he actually could but it’s just not that simple. There are varying degrees of low oxygenation and short of complete shut off of the respiratory tract most people can actually speak(albeit with difficulty). So the question is how impacted was his breathing from this…I would argue it was not as impacted as some people think it was(which is indeed perceptible by the frequency and way Floyd voiced his discomfort). However even though the positioning of the knee was not such that it could completely cut off breathing it could perhaps limit it enough that after several minutes lead to asphyxiation, but not entirely in the way that most people think. It might have been that the knee also limited blood supply to the brain from the carotid artery as well as causing obstruction to the lungs. It was not total but enough that over time could cause one to lose consciousness. Add to this other reported health issues and possible drug use by Floyd this could put him in much greater danger than would any other person. That is not to say that the actions taken by the cop(s) were remotely excusable but these facts could reduce the penalty somewhat seeing as they may have operated on the assumption that he could take it. Of course any person with two brain cells to rub together would know not to take it that far given the circumstances and reaction from Floyd but we aren’t exactly talking about the sharpest tools in the shed when it comes to law enforcement officers.
2) Some people are rushing to racism as the prime motivator for the actions taken by the cop(s). This to me is not yet obvious. Yes racist cops exist, some even might be overtly so and take every opportunity express their racism in violent ways however I think these people are very very few and far between and even more so the ones that would be stupid enough to get caught doing something overtly racist. Facts that should give pause to arriving to a “racism” conclusion are; a)The cop had a history of excessively violent behavior, which at this point does not seem to be racially motivated. b) It appears that Floyd and the cop had known each other and had worked at the same club before, so there might be some history there. c) Cops in general are among the few people in society that essentially fear for their life on a daily basis to a degree that is likely over ten fold greater than the average citizen. They often deal with violent individuals and enter dangerous neighborhoods so this puts them in heightened alert which after a while can lead to irrational fear driven behavior which isn’t necessarily stemming from racist motivations. So IMO the jury is still out on that one, it may turn out that this guy was indeed racist but i feel that this would have come out by now if it was true. It’s more likely at this point that this was an aggressive cop who had a severe lapse in judgement or possibly had some bitter history with the individual.
So given the current facts it is quite evident to me that we are likely talking about voluntary manslaughter. This was no accidental death(ie the cop purposely ignored signs that he was putting the man in a severe life threatening situation) but we could probably fall short of murder(ie pre-meditated).
Even though I’m not a fan of the NYT lately here’s a good analysis of what happened.
Regardless of Floyd’s criminal actions prior to the arrest or his supposed resisting arrest(very minimal while he was apparently intoxicated at the time) the cop’s actions were entirely unjustified and IMO criminal in nature. There is no protocol or justification to put your knee with the full weight of your body on someone’s neck(near the carotid no less) for even 1 minute let alone 8 all while the person is fully restrained. A healthy sober person might be at a high risk of dying let alone someone who suffered from claustrophobia, other health issues and was intoxicated at the time(possibly even on drugs). The general assumption should never be that they are dealing with a fully fit healthy individual who can handle being battered for a bit let alone subjected to deadly pressure to a vulnerable part of their body. The assumption should always be that apprehension is conducted in a safe, legal and justifiable manner in proportion to the circumstances of the arrest while paying attention to the state of the individual being arrested. Just because someone committed a crime this does not mean they deserve to be put in harms way let alone brought to their demise especially if they pose no threat to anyone.
All 4 cops involved should receive severe penalties(high fines and possible jail time for the other 3), Chauvin in particular should be imprisoned for voluntary manslaughter(the full 10 years).
chauvin is on suicide watch and his (asian) wife has filed for divorce. he may be the real victim.
americans have many reasons to riot and burn stuff to the ground…
floyd’s death isn’t one of them, but fox news boomers are so dumb they don’t see that the rioters themselves know this.
and that the rioters are so dumb or so controlled that they think they need a bullshit excuse to riot.
Sovereign is the only one that takes three syllable to pronunciation it 😂
Sovereign is a type of money – there is a plurality of sovereigns – and not a specimen 😂
if you can’t breathe, you can’t say, “i can’t breathe.”
I don’t know enough about the case, even the video looks horrific to me, but I remember on a cruise where I was invited by a friend physician working there as a junior doctor, and he hang up at night at a call transfered by a nurse from a staff person who said she couldn’t breathe. I was also horrified by his’ reaction and he told me, when you can’t breathe, you can’t talk. That’s bullshit . And he slept all night .
A lot of doctors Ive met are surprisingly callous.
Sovereign is the only coin in gold when the others are silver.
And I stop there because there are too many possibilities.. It’s true that a good test should be made in such a way that there is only one good solution. That’s why it’s difficult to create challenging tests that are robust, I suppose .
Langan’s head circumference is 25.5 inches isn’t it? Does anyone here know of any person with a 25 inch+ head circumference aside from that. This guy seems to be a 25 inch+ case:
http://windrosearmoury.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=page&id=5
I have a 23 inch and im 5 ft 5.
23 inches would be 58.42 cm. The average in the US military is 57.44 cm with an SD of 1.6 cm (from one of PP’s old posts). The average in Beijing is 57.2 cm with an SD of 1.5 cm (from a survey of Chinese heads), I guess this is because brachycephalic skulls are more compact, pumpkinhead could probably elaborate more on this if you ask him.
Mine is 60.5 with a clean shaven head, about 61.5 with regular hair growth, so I’d say just above 24 inches (but below 24.5) with a cephalic index of over 90.
Yes, I was about to say that 58 cm(or thereabout) is the average for the US population. Langan’s(if this is true) is 64.77 cm which is absolutely massive. It doesn’t seem that way in pictures, he seems more tall headed than long headed to me but pictures can be very misleading. I’m more than average but not quite as much as Langan, however I’m quite wide headed but also particularly tall headed which is something that does not factor into HC.
So the idea is that the more spherical an object becomes the more volume it packs per given circumference or surface area(compared for example to an ellipsoid’s circumference lengthwise).
I have a hyperbrachychephalic head. And the average height in the military is 4-5 inches taller than me.
How tall are you?
Here is a pic of me if you could detail my cephalic index and other phenotypical traits I’d appreciate it.
@LOADED
Cephalic index is (maximum width/maximum length) x 100. We can’t tell what it is by looking at the picture, so it has to be measured.
My height is 173 cm.
So a hyper brachycephalic head has a cephalic index of 85 – 89. I just qualify as hyper brachy at 85. From the image you provided you don’t look like a hyper brachy to me, possibly a brachy instead(80 – 84.9) or less. Of course I would need a profile view of your head to know for sure. CI or cephalic index is measured as the width of your head divided by its length x 100. Perhaps you can measure these lengths and let us know but if you already have and are sure it is accurate then it is what it is. The width from the widest point around the area above the ears and the length from just above the brow ridge to the back of the head at it’s most posterior point.
Of course the image you provided is not ideal in judging but it appears your head height(ear hole to top of head) is about average or perhaps a little less than average. Mine is above the 99th percentile in head height and head width but only about average in head length.
As for other phenotypical traits tbh I’m far from an expert at racial groups and their related facial features. Note that all this should not be taken too seriously as the shape of the head does not matter nearly as much as the overall size does which itself only explains about 20% of intelligence.
Finally for your height your HC is actually quite good, well above average.
I’m 5′ 11”.
Are you from the United States, Flaminhotcheetos? I know you said you took the SAT but your preferences for cm is interesting.
And what cephalic phenotype do you think I have based off that picture?
Also are you interested in facial-width-height ratios (fwhr) and phrenology are all? I’m curious because I think you could provide some insight into some of my curiosities.
Loaded you look like a junkie.
And you look like a schizophrenic!
@LOADED
No, I am not in the US, took the SAT to see if I can get a good score.
“And what cephalic phenotype do you think I have based off that picture?”
I can’t really say, you’ll have to measure your maximum length and width.
“Also are you interested in facial-width-height ratios (fwhr) and phrenology are all? I’m curious because I think you could provide some insight into some of my curiosities.”
Not really deep into it, don’t know if I can help much. I have looked up only stuff mostly involving the cranium. I know that there is this thing called a facial index if that is what you wanted to know about: http://humanphenotypes.net/metrics/facialindex.html
now i understand why peepee is a lesbian.
notice peepee has refused to post:
While standing outside the car, Floyd began saying that he could not breathe.
https://www.mystateline.com/news/national/medical-examiner-no-evidence-george-floyd-died-of-strangulation/
So either way they killed a man because of their incompetence.
floyd was having an MI and so he wasn’t just rapping, but cops thought he was just rapping because “i can’t breathe” has become a meme.
chinese cop thought floyd was just being a cunt.
no judgement of floyd, but sometimes cops are just doing their job…and their job sucks donkey dicks.
If Trump actually gets the millitary on the streets it will either immediately stop the protests or get even worse when some nervous soldier shoots a black person.
[redacted by pp, June 1, 2020]
chauvin had his knee on floyd’s neck BECAUSE floyd wouldn’t shut up…and mere plaintiveness can be interpreted as…
chauvin was thinking:
this guy won’t shut up. he’s extremely “agitated”. he’s already kicked us and jumped out of the back of the police car…if i take my knee off his neck while he’s still screaming…i don’t wanna guess what will happen.
MUGABE SOLVES THE IQ TEST QUESTION AGAIN!
This is one of my favourites. Very moving video as well.
Bruno do you know the french band Air?
Yes. It sounds like elevator music to me. But I am an ignoramus in those matters
OK Computer is always in the critics top 5 best albums of all time. I actually thought The Bends was better, but this song is amazing from it. I used to listen to radiohead a lot more when I was younger.
^^^EVEN SADDER THAN TRACY CHAPMAN^^^
I didn’t quite understand what the fuss was all about regarding this album and radiohead in general but over the years this song(and many others) grew on me and now I think this is a masterpiece.
yes, it’s a very good song
of course even if the police had believed floyd was in true distress…he probably would’ve died anyway…
at least in nyc there was an order not to revive, because hospitals stuffed with covid patients supposedly.
chauvin has been charged with “third degree murder”, a charge which only exists in minnesota two other states according to wikipedia. it is a synonym for “depraved-heart murder” where an individual acts with a “depraved indifference” to human life and where such act results in a death, despite that individual not explicitly intending to kill.
had it not been for the “i can’t breathe meme” the charge could stick. but chauvin and the chinese cop may apparently thought floyd was just making it up.
There was no need to keep his knee on his neck. The rest of his body way restrained. He’s not a threat from the neck up.
I just seen the whole video and the policeman might have thought Floyd was faking it but he was definitely out of order to be on top of the guy for so long. Its obvious the white guy had malice in his heart.
You never know whats in the white guys head though. He could have seen some horrific crimes black people did or been around really violent people. Theres probably some history there.
…am I the only one who notices how Philo is quick to justify a white guy’s behavior towards a black guy but not the inverse?
He’s either a troll or just brain damaged.
Floyd and the officer worked security for the same nightclub so they probably knew of each other. And the club owner said he didn’t know of any hostility between them.
It would make no sense if Chauvin wanted to murder his coworker. But yes, he should’ve been a lot more careful.
yes there was no need, but…
1. he did NOT die from suffocation.
2. if the guy on camera had been black or simply not white there’d be no riots. philando castile really was killed by a minnesota cop, but the cop wasn’t white.
there is no statistical evidence that white cops kill black perps because racism. it may happen, but it doesn’t happen very often. so you have to ax yoself why is this narrative [redacted by pp, june 2, 2020]
Why is mugabe an autistic faggot that always misses the point?
Melo you just don’t get it. On any given day a number of people will be killed by police in the course of their duties. The media highlighted one case. You can’t say without evidence thats how all interactions between cops and magic negroes go.
“1. he did NOT die from suffocation.”
He may not have died directly from suffocation in the classical sense but more than likely his respiration was greatly restricted for a prolonged period of time to the point that he lost consciousness. His heart might have still been beating but not for much longer given the distress he was put under his intoxication and possible drug use and underlying health issues. Nevertheless he should not have been made to lose his consciousness in the first place which is itself a criminal act by the cops, never mind the fact that Chauvin remained with his knee on Floyd’s neck for 3 minutes after he lost consciousness. This in my view is voluntary manslaughter, akin to deciding to drive a car despite knowing full well that the breaks don’t work at all and someone dies as a result. It’s a step beyond reckless behavior that might cause harm(e.g. DUI), its knowing that something has a high chance that it will lead to severe injury or death yet still doing it. For reference, In Minnesota drug dealers are charged with voluntary manslaughter if someone they dealt drugs to dies after taking those drugs.
Further to the cause of death, imagine someone gets you in a choke hold and puts you to sleep. Technically you are still alive but if you thereafter die from complications and MI, is the cause of death a heart attack or the fact that you were made to lose consciousness or both? Your type of reasoning is why comorbidities were introduced in medicine. People can die from multiple correlated or even independent reasons.
@philosopher, he was a trump-loving neo-nazi. And Floyd seemed like a really mild guy. Come on!
the guy with his knee on floyd’s back:
some cops may get off on violence and others may just get fed up.
canadian football has a foul “unnecessary roughness”. players don’t go to prison for 25 years.
Alright, I was waiting to have a good sleep before attempting to solve the test, because I am constantly sleep deprived and cannot drink coffee (excuses, I know) but I’ve had enough and since the spoiling has begun, I thought I’d try.
I only thought of a solution for three of them (my english didn’t help (again, excuses)):
2) 7
5) June
8) 3 (full disclaimer: I solved it in two ways and then read your convo with Bruno and decided which one is right. Not sure what answer I’d provide in an official setting, but if it was “15” then part of the question would be redundant, since, if they meant “different to each other,” it wouldn’t make any difference, since the combos of 2 same flavors wouldn’t count anyway)
You should get 3 points even if you were badly influenced by my exchange about 8).
15 is the easy answer.
An ice-cream seller has 6 different varieties of ice-cream. If he sells two ice-creams at a time and the two flavors are always different, how many different combinations of flavors can he make ?
The letter of the text implies that ice-cream = 2 flavors (or variety of ice-cream).
Then there are 15 ice-creams possible (6*5/2 flavors). So if you sell two-ice creams at a time (meaning 4 flavors but in two different pots) , you can make 105 combination of flavors (15*14/2) like banana/chocolate and banana/strawberry.
So as it was ambiguous i gave the two possibilities : simple one is 15. Closer to the wording was 105.
So as you were influenced by me and the text isn’t well redacted, you get 3 if I was scoring you 😂
And for people who doesn’t see it . Let’s name flavor 1,2,3,4,5,6
You get 15 ice-creams of 2 flavors
1-1, 1-2,1-3,1-4,1-5,1-6 (6)
+
2-2,2-3,2-4,2-5,2-6 (5)
+
4
+
3
+
5-5,5-6 (2)
+
6-6 (1)
So 6+ 5 + ….. + 1 = 15 (short cut : 6*5 / 2)
Now if you want to combine all those 15 ice creams of two flavors it’s the same process :
So 15 * 14 / 2 = 105
That is the total combination of two ice-creams each made of 2 flavors chosen among six.
So you could have 4 times the same flavor if you really like it 😂
O wait no, the problem excluded the same flavor because they say different .
But the reasoning is the one I gave . Just skip the same flavor possibilities
Else it doesn’t add up 😂😂😂
So it’s
5+4+ + 1 = 15
Im not much of a conspiracist but I think this is a ploy from the right to use force as a way of keeping Trump in office if he loses the election in November.
If the riots are used by the BLM movement now, think about the violence that would erupt by organized right wingers if he’s not elected.
Something to keep in mind.
You are the dumbest conspiracy theorist i’ve ever seen,
Most of the protestors are white. No surprise. People most brainwashed are high empathy whites.
the only fact that bothers me is that the coroner did not say that floyd died from an MI, which i naively suppose is easy to determine. “cardiac arrest” is meaningless. everyone dies from that.
but this article makes it sound difficult or elaborate to determine at autopsy that MI was the cause of death.
MI means part of the heart muscle dies due to lack of blood supply due to a full occlusion of a coronary artery. and this causes an arrythmia which “settles” in no rythm, cardiac arrest. but when someone is dead his whole heart is dead, not just a small part of it.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00428-019-02662-1
Pumpkin, if you took the coding subtests two times consecutively, and the first time you took it you had high anxiety, but the second time you took it and had much less anxiet, and your score increased by 1-1.5 SD, what would your real score probably be?
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