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HBO has done it again. First they gave us Six Feet Under (the best TV series of all time), then they gave us Leaving Neverland (the best documentary of all time), then came Euphoria (one of the best teen dramas) and now: Years and Years (also airing on BBC One in the UK).
Years and Years tells the story of Vivian Rook, a rising British politicians in the late 2020s, told through the eyes of a random British family that watches her rise over the years on TV. Rook is played by the brilliant Emma Thompson.
When I was a teenager I was sent to a high school that had a program for brilliant students and because the students were so bright, the teachers had to be incredibly bright to stay one step ahead. I remember my English teacher had such an intimidating intellect that you didn’t want to even raise your hand in class for fear of looking stupid. And yet this man absolutely worshiped Emma Thompson. She just exudes a certain sophistication, and she does a great job playing Britain’s maverick future leader, a character that seems very vaguely inspired by Donald Trump.
The show portrays a dystopian future where bankers have wrecked the economy, the government is pursuing genocidal policies in refugee camps, and all the cool kids are becoming trans-human.
A scene commenter illuminaticatblog might like:
The first season ends with one of the characters deserting her physical body completely and being the first person to get her mind downloaded, though we’ll have to wait for season #2 to see if this risky new technology works.
Even if it is possible one day to download our entire consciousness on to computer, does that really mean we live forever, or does it simply mean an another us (that thinks, remembers, and feels exactly like we do) just takes over in our place?
Pumpkin Person 
is modi really so utterly fucking retarded he thinks the aryans were from india?
their language, sanskrit, wasn’t even first recorded in india.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitanni
The rig veda is the earliest record of sanskrit. The earliest chapters of it were composed around 2200 B.C near the banks of the river saraswati. And this river was in India.
spoken like a true streetshitter.
composed and written down are two different things.
mongolianpedia says Philological and linguistic evidence indicates that the bulk of the Rigveda Samhita was composed in the northwestern region of the Indian subcontinent, most likely between c. 1500 and 1200 BC,[9][10][11] although a wider approximation of c. 1700–1100 BC has also been given. The earliest parts of the Rigveda concern how to shit in the street whilst running from sand-niggerists.
all the rigveda talks about is horse penises, because the aryans, like the mitanni, were equestrians from the steppes of what is today russia.
the nazis were wrong about the aryans too according to mongolianpedia.
the aryans contributed no more than 10% of europeans’ genome and were not blond and blue eyed, but almost all europeans speak descendants of their language.
spain was conquered by a tiny number of visigoths. the mongols conquerd chiner. how many moghuls were there?
there’s no shame in it. a small organized group can conquer a large disorganized group.
n it. a small organized group can conquer a large disorganized group.
Yes that’s why I call it a conspiracy.
the official narrative, reigning theory of where the indo-europeans originated is pc for europeans and streetshitters alike. that is, their origin is outside your own ethnie’s urheimat.
but that doesn’t mean it’s false.
there’s a yuge historical argument for the theory which has nothing to do with archaeology or the indo-europeans themselves.
namely the great success of the mongols, the moghuls, and the turks. all from central asia.
take turkey.
prior to the turkish invasion no one in turkey spoke turkish. now almost almost all turks speak turkish. but how many turks are actually turks? almost none.
take england.
the angles, saxons, jutes, and frisians replaced celtic with their german talk.
but the french speaking vikings, the normans, didn’t replace anglo-saxon, just changed it, melted with it.
because ‘tarded peepee will claim this confirms the cold winter theory.
but today central asians and mongolians have low IQs.
like the average IQ in kyrgyzstan is 67. and the kyrgyz are more asian looking that the turkmens.
and in all these central asian countries i’d bet the elite is dominated by ethnic russians while the politicians are china people.
you can see they still love love love horses. so maybe the whole conquests thing was just due to the “technology” of the horse.
the material justification for european feaudalism was that knights (chevals) needed lots of land just to keep their horses alive.
but “conspiracy” is a term used by the JIDF to discredit its enemies.
simple ethno-centrism and antipathy for all other ethnies is sufficient.
in the past…
the conquered don;t even speak the same language and look even more different…
than dershowitz looks diffferent.
“conspiracy” is a term used to identify dipshits such as yourself.
Deal with it.
Conspiracy is the EXACT term to describe how a small group of ethnically motivated people can dominate a larger group without being cognizant of the the methods and motivations for doing so.
Melo
The grown ups are talking now Melo. Go back to your colouring books and CNN.
Look he has to steal my insults and repackage them in his played out CNN strawmen to be relevant.
What a loser.
pill needs a new tuareg-english dictionary.
…without being cognizant of the the methods and motivations for doing so.
no! “conspiracy” requires cognizance.
the point is there doesn’t actually need to be an elders of mongolia for mongolians to behave as if there were.
the rabies virus does NOT know that it makes its host violent and incapable of swallowing at the same time (and thus very likely to spread it by biting).
and in this way one small ethnic group within a much larger one which has deleterious consequences on that much larger group simply by being itself in the context of a small/large can be like rabies.
for example. it may be that mongolians do not seek media control because they realize the great power of controlling the media. they may just like media. they may just be talented at media.
but it doesn’t matter.
what matters is the effect. not the intention. in the context of ethnie vs ethnie. which is NOT the individual context.
No, I can see the sentence might be a bit misleading – I meant to say how a small group can dominate a larger one requires the larger group not to be aware of the planning and scheming and even not to be wary of the idea a smaller ethnic group could conspire. The latter is what Jews try to imply – that the idea of a small group scheming and putting key people into key positions in society towards an overall goal is ‘preposterous’.
i agree that the term “conspiracy theory” is ideological and always has been.
it’s a pejorative with extension anything not in the msm. it’s short hand for saying, “if you don’t think 2+2=5 then you’re crazy…if you don’t accept the msm as a perfect representation of reality then you’re crazy…” and it has weight because psychiatry is a pseudo-science which conflates normal with healthy.
but the legal meaning of “conspiracy” i would guess is not actually satisfied in the case of mongolians. but it’s pretty close and it might as well be. whereas the legal sense is or was satisfied by american cosa nostra.
but if by “conspiracy” one merely means a group of people not behaving like perfect strangers then obviously there is a mongolian conspiracy.
no wonder peepee admires densen.
if you have lived the life…you must ask yourself one question…”if it weren’t for the (much exaggerated) health effects…why wouldn’t everyone be a drunk?”
this remonds me of oprah…
but not as trashy.
Mugabe jokes aside, the earliest parts of the rig veda dont have mention of horses according to what I have read. Indo aryans who may have been the people who wrote the earliest parts of the rig veda may have been a distinct group from the indo europeans. And they might have originated in India.
yes. i have no doubt that the rig veda was written in india. the gif shows that sanskrit was the language of a group living in what is today tajikistan who spread from there to northern india and northern syria. but like the normans, the aryans in syria adopted the language of their subjects.
and i’m not joking. https://www.hinduwebsite.com/sacredscripts/hinduism/rigveda/horse_1.asp
so you read this and you think, “this is retarded. the world is a horse?” it makes sense when the people who wrote it were like Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow when horses were their way of life as they still are in mongolia.
Mongolia has more horses per person than any other nation – 66 per 100 people* – as if almost every adult Mongolian owns a horse.
https://perissodactyla.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/the-worlds-horsiest-nation/
the central asians are so horsie they drink fermented mare’s milk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
Mugabe, which gif where? Also I didn’t say the rig veda has no mention of horses, I said the earliest parts of the rig veda.
Were you in the program for “brilliant” students despite having a 130-odd IQ? In what way did he worship Emma?
Were you in the program for “brilliant” students despite having a 130-odd IQ? In what way did he worship Emma?
110 = bright, 120 = very bright, 130 = brilliant
I realize my question came off a bit insulting. You’re obviously smart, but calling oneself brilliant is a little haughty haha. One can be brilliant irrespective of IQ score, but I would think the threshold to be considered brilliant on IQ alone is more like 3 sigma above the mean. 1 person out of every 44 isn’t “brilliant” in my opinion.
115 = bright, 130 = very bright, 145 = brilliant
To be precise I’m 135: one in a hundred level
which is totally meaningless/arbitrary unless there’s evidence that this is how people actually use the words.
so if you’re a school teacher with only 50 pupils total, you might call the smartest “brilliant”?
but the people who make IQ tests have low IQs so they can’t tell the difference between words and things.
Look, mugabe is jelly.
Robots having such creative abilities (and only growing) and at the same time being capable of thinking/working intensely 24/7 probably means theyll become better scientists than us pretty soon.
And look at what i found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Scientist
With the ability to process information from the internet (and secret human experimentation) theyll be able to gain a large understanding of human nature and eventually be able to simulate all of the criticall elements of higher creativity in humans. Theyll understand the interactions between society and individuals and then produce all kinds of geniuss music. For now they can only imitate, combine and slightly mutate, which is pretty close to what most humans are capable of today, sparring some very above avarage people and geniusses that do large leaps in creativity. Still, the creativity and individuallity of art will make it the last domain for humans do dominate.
https://qz.com/799816/dutch-bank-ing-is-replacing-5800-people-with-machines-at-a-cost-of-2-billion/
from sailer…
1,000 years ago a muslim author claimed that sicilians lived off raw onions and they were ‘tarded.
this explains rr.
jimmy dore was making fun of fredo recently.
chris cuomo went to yale and he acts like this?
“fredo” is NOT the n-word for italians. all it means is that chris is the dumb brother.
jimmy mentions the stereotype of the irish drunk…
which is also totally true.
but the irish were the first to distil in europe. distillation was invented by the sand-nigger-ists…the irish drank the distillate.
“whiskey” is derived from a celtic word, and…
brandy came AFTER.
the term “fredo” comes from this one scene from The Godfather II.
mugabe one of the best mafia based movies is the Indian movie titled company. Try watching it, I am not sure if it is available with English subtitles online. But if you find it watch it. Its made on a low budget and also may not be available in HD, but it is good. It is based on Bombay mafia.
is emma thompson still fappable? she used to be.
how many man whores love this scene?
mugabe has 4 chillens.
oprah has none.
therefore mugabe is more fit than oprah.
oprah is confirmation of the hypothesis that un-fit people have no chillens.
By electing the first black president, Oprah did more to replicate her DNA than Genghis Khan
False!
I think there’s an inverse relationship between increased economic prosperity/ambition and fertility among minorities. Democrats also are proponents of abortion, which disproportionately targets black people. Saying that she helped replicate her DNA isn’t exactly right. Unless you mean that by propelling Barry to that status, she stifled some sort of prospective or insidiously ongoing genocide stemming from interracial disparity in political and economic influence.
I guess it could be argued that Democratic policy ultimately does increase the number of blacks. The conservative black economist Thomas Sowell would say that their fiscal policies, particularly welfare, has destabilized the black nuclear family by undermining the father. Financially rewarding black people to spit out kids and vote Democrat supposedly gives less reason for black men to stick around and persevere. He notes that the frequency of single-parent households tripled a generation after the implementation of the liberal welfare state.
There’s also an inverse relationship between IQ & fertility among women.
Obama increased the number of blacks by helping Africa’s economies & self-esteem, by supporting pro-refugee policies in Europe & because people in Europe were more willing to rescue refugee boats in the belief that they may contain a potential Obama & by releasing black man from jail & thus allowing them to mate
Obama did none of these things. List 1 way he helped Africa. Obama also didn’t get criminal justice reform through congress, that was Trump.
Even W. Bush >> Obama when it came to helping Africa. It’s no certainty that the RINO McCain would have done less for the continent than him either. That’s a good point about black incarceration, but it doesn’t put Oprah in Temujin’s tier of genomic influence.
Oprah is actually a closet ‘conservative,’ at least according to Uncle Tom sports pundit Jason Whitlock. He claims that in private convos, she strongly agrees with him on conservative principle of accountability and the importance of being able to cope emotionally with perceived injustice. She said to him that she must feign a different worldview to pander to her base of SIMPs and the disenfranchised. I strongly believe, however, that she sincerely wanted someone like Obama in office, as she does want Blacks to succeed. She just thinks that being soft and pointing the finger at the Man is counterproductive.
I could see Oprah being a closet conservative on financial issues, but she’s pretty far left on foreign policy:
As for social issues, she was decades ahead of her time on gays.
obama is less black than you are pp
hear hear!
sounds like you’re about to come out duh closet as black peepee.
[redacted by pp, 2019-08-22]
it takes a village. or an hasidic dynasty.
no village. no take.
capiche?
secularism = smart people don’t have chillens unless they’re rich (and rich at a young age)…which is a minority of smart people. dumb poor people have almost all the chillens.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but
number correct = X1 + … + Xn where each Xi is a random variable taking value 1 or 0.
drrr!
oprah can’t make sandwiches and is dumb. aesthetics don’t lie.
Just forget about all the math you think you learned and just use your common sense. In a normal distribution IQ 80 (10th percentile) is just as far below the mean as IQ 120 (90th percentile) is above. Thus all one needs to make the raw score distribution non-normal is add way more hard questions until the 90th percentile is twice as far above the mean than the 10th percentile is below.
Indeed a libertarian psychometrician could make the IQ distribution look just like the wealth distribution where almost all the points go to the top 1%
I’m very concerned that you don’t have the conceptual ability to grasp what I’m saying
I was thinking about Chinas rise and how only East Asian countries can get to geijin standards. Maddison has world tables of economic growth and economy estimates going back to the middle ages. Its hardly a science but it seemed China was once the largest and most sophisticated economy before Europe seemed to push ahead by the late middle ages. Before then Europe was a backwater, even worse than the middle east.
Its hard to understand why China lost the lead initially.
But to be clear there is a large difference between east asian developed countries and Western ones. East Asian ones seem to supress a lot of their own internal demand through high savings/lack of social insurance so basically they rely on white people to buy their products to keep their standard of living. The other way around is not true.
That said many east asian places seem to have a higher standard of living than very east Europe e.g. Ukraine, Lithuania, Russia etc.
Europe has always had regions above in economic and cultural development. In the past advnaced capital (whether human or technology wise) was borderline irrelevant and stagnation (aswell as forgetting technology sometimes) was the rule (charles murray talked about this).
Japan and korea are acutally below europe and white america in wages, they compensate for this by working more.
The Umayad and Rashudin caliphates are the only civilization that have surpassed europe in all but art (including urban development!). Europe was only slightly behind the middle east, almost equal, while being superior at architecture/music/logic and having more economic growth. Saying “even worse than the middle east” isnt special becuase the arabs were the most developed in the world, and europeans second place.
One interesting thing about Japan is that it is in its apex (despite population declining). During “imperial days” it was only comparable to greece in development. Some posit that Japanese are very special. Here you see a video full of positive anecdotes regarding japan:
4:29
5:19
6:14
3:49
are obsurd to me.
2:25 is a little scary.
Japanese music has also slightly improved, but most of it is avarage…
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/dan-freedmans-babies/
Interesting comment about the japanese. But i think Their samples on chinese (han) are limited. Chinese (han) are not a homogenous groups. A person from sichuan and a person from shanghai are less similar than a swiss and a russian. What is said about the chinese actually means “coastal chinese”, probably from the shanghai-taiwan region. Stereotypes in China do inform us that the southern chinese are more meek and autistic/wierd, especially southern ones. Many japanese are closer to the northern chinese than southern ones. People dont percieve japan as a mixed race country but it kinda is. i suspect its something like 40% yayoi, 15% Siberian, 20 Jomon, 5-10 pre-han south chinese, 25-30% north chinese. But maybe its the 50-70% yayoi and 5-15% north chinese, considering that the yayoi probable are related with the north chinese and that the japanese got a low cephalic index despite having much ancestry from populations with high cephalic index values.
I forgot to say that there are some big name asian mathematicians. Some of them are edgy and unorthodox (unlike terry):
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26753-mathematicians-anger-over-his-unread-500-page-proof/
The title is hilarious, “Mathematician’s anger over his unread 500-page proof”
hahaha…
Before then Europe was a backwater, even worse than the middle east.
that’s a yuge myth told by mongolians and virtue signalling europeans.
from the fall of the western roman empire to the discovery of the new world europe continued to develop just at a slower pace.
just take the volume of literature produced in latin and ancient greek before 450. my guess is it’s more than 10x that of ancient chinese and indian literature put together.
Im just going by the Maddison numbers. I don’t know how rigorous they are or the actual methodology, but I remember the tables on GDP estimates for these regions in the middle ages from a book I read called Power and Plenty.
I was thinking about some of the industries that reward severe autism and ‘select for’ such people by giving them resources on this basis:
1. Finance: Warren Buffet has some autism and is the 3rd richest man in the world. Many people who work in quant hedge funds also have some spergers. Savants are used a lot for gambling type positions.
2. Tech: Self explanatory.
If you combined tech and finance stocks they would likely be something in the region of 30-40% of the S&P 500. This is a very rough measure for how much economic production needs asperger people to some extent. Its quite crazy but I expect this to decline in the future as automation will remove many of the things spergies do more , more than jobs with people that require social skills or ‘common sense’.
the extreme specialization of labor, which started in europe in the late 18th century, is why being on the spectrum can be an advantage. it’s not just coding, math, and reading annual reports.
bill gates said it himself,
“to me a nerd (read: spectrum person) is someone who cares passionately (read: weirdly too much) about one very particular thing.”
it’s not the subject matter. it’s the weird level of focus. so there can be people autistic about baseball, like george will.
people with very high IQs will tend to be a mile wide and an inch deep. but the job market rewards a mile deep and an inch wide.
I note that Mark Zuckerberg is no longer considering running for president. About 2 years ago I was reading lots of articles about this and how he was commissioning focus groups and researching it.
If the Cambridge Analytica ‘scandal’ hadn’t of happened and regulators weren’t breathing down his neck, it might be different.
Someone with that amount of autism has no business going into politics. I can’t think of 1 politician at a national level in the entire world that has autism. The only way that could happen is through nepotism. Kind of like how the Medicis bribed cardinals to put a 5 year old boy as the Pope.
…hadn’t ‘ve.. pill. that’s a high school or lower level mistake.
Pumpkin, no matter which strategy you are using on digit span, if you improve your digit span, will there be a near transfer?
ethnie means interbreeding population. if the moghuls, visigoths, mongolians all had spouses from their subject people they would cease to exist as an ethnie. their distinctiveness would be purely cultural…and they would have no particular talent for or attraction to media, private equity, etc.
and they would have no particular talent for or attraction to media, private equity, etc.
or rather the basis of this affinity would cease to be genetic.
so because ‘tarded HBDers like cockring take “intelligence” as a purely individual trait and suppose that mongolians evolved higher “intelligence” because niche in europe required it.
occam’s razor never occurs to them.
it never occurs to them that they evolved to fill this niche and they still fill it and this niche causes higher IQ scores, not the reverse.
lynn-tard concluded the european mongolians of israel averaged the same as european europeans in the US state of minnesota or the country of germany.
but because ‘tarded he explained this lower average as the result of the european mongolians of israel not being full blooded european mongolians.
so it’s PC to accept that some species are parasites.
yet it is tres UN-PC to suggest that some interbreeding populations of humans can evolve to be parasites on other interbreeding populations of humans.
but once the population is circumscribed by endogamy it might as well be a species.
that is, it was possible for mongolians to reproduce with germans, frogs, poles, lithuanians, ukrainians etc. but they didn’t. they didn’t for almost 2,000 years.
i looked it up on mongolianpedia.
apparentlty it’s not decided yet whether the angles, saxons, jutes, and frisians who conquered england after the roman left were a small band or like mexicans.
whether they were just a bunch of warriors who “haveth childers everywhere” or were 100s of thousands of people.
the nazis had style.
every gay man agrees.
charlie rose said…
“you can’t understand hitler without knowing he was an artist.”
it’s just words…but its effect has been more than words.
You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth…
this is another way of saying…
mongolians hate beauty
but…
greeks love beauty!
CONFLICT!
I’m not allowed to say trump is a [redacted by pp, aug 22] but mugabe can worship nazis
Hilarious.
Pumpkin is too stupid to see the hypocrisy. Prove me wrong faggot.
Not hypocrisy. I’m just a little paranoid about people libeling a sitting president. Irrational fear I know.
“I’m just a little paranoid about people libeling a sitting president. Irrational fear I know.”
Haha why?
Because trump has the power to make some blogger vanish with a single phone call. I try to be nice to such people 🙂
I’m the one said it, not you. Stop being a pussy.
we’re all pussies on some level. none of us comment under our real name.
Believe it or not King meLo is on my birth certificate. My parents hated me.
Do you know how irrational that sounds, Pumpkin? White trash bashed on Obama for 8 years non-stop on the Internet without any repercussions. Plus, how important do you think you are that a president of any country would want to risk their position of power trying to take you out?
And also, how powerful do white people think Trump is? We colored people have been saying “Fuck Trump!” before he was even elected and nothing’s happened to us! Y’all are so brainwashed thinking that this guy actually has any legitimate power than the one that you’re giving him.
The russians obviously had something to do with the 2016 election. You’d have to be autistic to deny this. But, an underappreciated and arguably more powerful influencer was the drastic financial situations of millions of blue collar workers.
Truck drivers will be replaced in the next few decades by AI. There is already a shortage of people looking to fill these jobs, because of that companies like amazon are rushing to replace their workers with computers. AI takes jobs, not immigration.
See a candidate like Trump will simply come to the rescue of the truck drivers and try to ban AI or some stupid shit like that while someone like Yang will try to find middle ground so that our technology can prosper while simultaneously making sure the blue collar folks are not left out to dry. Liberals care about science and the people, they are literally progressive. Coal miners should be saved, their industries should not. Something Trump does not understand.
Trump is stupid. Not because hes racist or anything like that. You can just tell by the way he talks and conducts himself. The things he says are simply not as calculated as people like dumb and dumber believe. He became president by pandering to the lowest common denominator, he’s not progressive, he distrusts science, but unlike socially intelligent people it’s not an illusion he literally believes what he is saying. There is no 5D chess going on he’s fumbled too many times. Someone who is socially intelligent can play both sides like a chameleon. But, someone that smart would never try to be president in the first place.
If CNN gave candidates more than 3 minutes to express their views, maybe we’d actually win. Instead we have to resort to going on joe rogan podcasts.
Why are we always focusing on how and why Trump got elected? The history of Hitler 2.0, erm, I mean Donald Trump, is well-documented. We have no need to keep mentioning it over and over. But that’s besides the point I’m trying to make. The point I wanna try and make is that blue-collar workers are all old people. Very few youngsters are in that line of work, especially in states that are not blue-collar. When you see Baby Boomers and to a lesser extent Gen Xers retiring, you’ll see that we’re going to wash away all the sins of our working-class forefathers and enter a world of bright, young minds that’ll be able to accomplish a lot for this country.
Unfortunately, most of them will be immigrants who will develop this country, but that doesn’t matter because they’ll develop a future that’ll be beneficial to all people of any background. The Chinese and Indian immigrants coming into this country will bring technological advances that will help everyone live comfortable, happy lives as long as they can afford it. Latinos and blacks are doing well under Trump because they can afford to buy things that make them and their families happy.
Phones, tablets, and any other essential technology that exist will only help bring peoples’ lives more comfort and ease. If you can give more people access to these things then you’re pretty much putting your country and its citizens in the right direction. We undervalue how much technology has helped benefit our lives, bring a false sense of security and happiness that most are brainwashed into believing, and helped people escape their daily struggles. If you take all those things into account, then you realize that we’re headed in a direction where people are going to stop caring about who is President and who has power and just enter a blinded reality that they will whole-heartedly support.
This song is about Pumpkin
I don’t know much about Andrew Yang other than his UBI idea. I think its definitely worth studying. I would much rather the central bank print money and hand an equal amount to everyone than print money and hand it to rich people only, as is the case now.
He is a mixture of chinese autism, Reddit and american optimism. He is really cute in a way similar to that of PP. His UBI idea is autistic because he essentially wants to cut expenses by streamlining the welfare with UBI. And also try to help people who suffer from automation through giving them cash. And also stimulate spending with yang bux.
What we need is decentraliced authority. The only way to do that is (neo?) feudalism. A lot of “smaller” smarter and more moral/competent/brave people get power over a smaller set of workers and negociate how the government should run. Its like having a representative of who one votes for, but that the representative should be trusted on not for ones choice but for their knowledge on whats best for the community. Since theyd be a large portion of the population they wouldnt work for the interest of their class or government since thered be too many for. This rectifies having retards/monsters reach power, inbalances in personality traits amongst leaders,alowing for a more supervised big government and increase meritocracy. The issue is that it would make people concious of their loser class, and transforming individuals in loser class families to ruler a class or vise versa would be wierd but nescesary to make the ruler class actually care about their. Individuals in the highest positions need to plead away their personal lives by doing annual drug (all kinds of tests) tests and having their life documented (by several agencies) for the public to see. People can ignore being cucked and castrated by jews or the upper class becuse it doesnt change their personal relationships but would get mad if power was distributed more equally because some people would become superior in virtue of their merit. This is the ultimate nietzschean government. Income disparancies were lower in feudal rome or britain than what they are in compemporary american society. Yet american society is seen as more equal, and that is becuase good people are shat upon so that most people will feel more close, becuase the upper class is being hidden from them. Perhaps you have to make it informal in some way. It seems that when evil attacks, good will form this structure.
One thing I’ve noticed is the the purpose of a university degree, especially in a non STEM/vocational subject is that it is mainly a status signal to employers and helps them sort employees for perceived intelligence/class/work ethic.
So at the moment, prospective employees try to cure the asymmetric information issue being going into debt and coming out of college with a shiny badge.
On the other hand the curious fact is that most office jobs don’t require any higher order thinking. Certainly not the type of conspiracy theory type thinking that delineates non zombies.
I would guess if a major corporation started hiring high achieving high school workers the difference in productivity with a graduate in a non STEM subject would be little to nothing.
There must be a cheaper way for employees to signal to employers that they can be a competent drone aside from a badge in learning what Master says.
I was thinking if I was hiring a salesperson I’d probably like to know how many facebook friends he has or if I was hiring a logistics person, how he does at certain types of video game. Those are 2 examples of something much more efficient to everybody in society of sorting workers. I think the government should study this. It would be a good thing for society to not force dummies like Melo to go to college.
It’d be great if exams like the CPA, CFA, Series 7, etc. were available online and accessible to anyone who wanted to take them. No university credit/work experience requirements.
And maybe companies can create their own tests for various roles that can be used as a screen for who gets the interview. Guarding against cheating might be tough, though.
Also, the price of testing would come down a lot if more people took them. Apparently, now it costs over 2 thousand dollars to sit the CFA exam. Pretty crazy considering half of America can’t cover a sudden $400 expenditure.
With the higher education lobby as influential as it is, reform is probably impossible, though.
if hiring and promotion were based solely on tests (in america) i’d be oprah’s boss.
Only if the SAT were used (in which case gates would be your boss).
If the WAIS were used she’d be your boss because the WAIS don’t like crazy
some STEM types think accounting is “just addition and subtraction” but the US CPA exam is actually quite hard to pass.
I never went to college but if I did, i’d definitely be in a STEM program. Empiricism>rationalism. That’s why you’re always wrong. You
re not an empiricist.
I guarantee that I would whoop Philo’s ass at any video game.
I was also thinking about the element of chance in the universe. I think serendipity may be a sign of a higher order or forces currently unknown to humans. In the same way we didn’t understand magnetism before the 19th century.
Specifically the example of people following a certain life path or ambition getting very fortuitous opportunities well beyond chance. Or meeting people of a specific obsessional interest that matches their need or desire. Many people have anecdotal evidence for these types of situations they have themselves experienced or heard from family/friends.
I think there is something to ‘The Secret’. The idea that certain psychological states do act as a type of force on events and circumstance.
The obvious counter to this is people born with a disability. The universe is quite cruel here to the blind, the deaf and the dumb (like Melo).
Perhaps this can be tempered by the fact that expectations for these people are lower. Perhaps not.
Everyone deserves to have a story put to music and verse. But not everyone get the same chances to do this objectively.
The Secret is based on a book called I think, ‘The Science of Being Rich’ by Wallace D Wattles.
I bought this book off the Rense website when I was a teenager.
Wattles literally tells the person to keep imagining a pile of money. I don’t know if this is actually true in this sense. But generally speaking, if you were obsessed with making money, my hunch is that you would either attract some opportunities to do so or you would be much more aware of opportunities existing to do so and therefore, the prophecy may be fulfilled.
Philo has no self awareness. If you believe “jewsdidiit” then you are automatically mentally disabled.
Deal with it.
Why did you ban my comments to melo? Why are you always protecting him but let him take swipes at me?
I did not ban all your comments about melo. The ones i did ban were banned for reasons that had nothing to do with melo. you’re extremely lucky ANY of your comments get approved, considering you’re apparently banned from both LOTB & Unz. Nobody wants you. The only words you ever need to say to me are “thank you”.
And still no explanation for why those comments were banned.
They were banned because we’re not allowed to discuss that stuff
Those are the three sites I visit the most with inductivist and Hsu.
Would you maybe recommend me other sites Pumpkin ?
I had a great time reading the G factor last summer. Today I have found the Nyborg book on emilkirkegaard site for free too. So I am gonna read it.
You should read Jensen’s bias in mental testing. It’s free there too
The book is garbage
Over your head
Hahaha. Yea, the same book where Jensen admits that tests are constructed to be how they are. Good one PP.
No he debunked all your arguments nearly 40 years ago. Keep up!
Jensen explicitly admits the test construction point.
Quotation needed
Pg 71:
“It is claimed that the psychometrist can make up a test that will yield any type of score distribution he pleases. This is roughly true, but some types of distributions are easier to obtain than others.”
He admits that it’s possible to construct a test to have any distribution, but he also claims that when tests are constructed based on just common sense criteria (wide range of difficulty with even jumps in difficulty) the scores naturally form a bell curve. He cites the ancient WBI as an example of this.
I’m actually unconvinced IQ has a normal distribution but it’s fine if it’s forced to fit one. Lots of variables (i.e. income) are manipulated to fit a normal distribution in research studies because it’s statistically convenient.
I thought you were saying he admitted the test’s validity was a result of test construction.
densen and mongofredson are not over any one’s head, not even their own.
despite a diet of nothing but raw onions, rr is over densen’s head. densen is the world limbo champion.
Jensen’s over your head too. You don’t even know the difference between test stability & reliability.
I only eat sautéed onions, thank you very much.
What RR does’t understand is that Test construction is irrelevant. he believes it’s constructed arbitrarily. It is not. That’s why nobody believes it’s an issue.
“it’s not”
Hahaha
“He admits that it’s possible to construct a test to have any distribution, but he also claims that when tests are constructed based on just common sense criteria (wide range of difficulty with even jumps in difficulty) the scores naturally form a bell curve. He cites the ancient WBI as an example of this.”
yea that’s bullshit. they don’t “naturally form a bell curve” (see Simon, 1997; Four Comments on The Bell Curve); it’s all built into the test by the test designers.
So since we know the kinds of items on IQ tests (ones more likely to be found in the middle class) and we know that test constructors put their biases into the tests (i.e., who should score lower and who should score higher), then IQ tests test middle class knowledge and that’s what the score measures.
“I thought you were saying he admitted the test’s validity was a result of test construction.”
He didn’t say this—that I can remember—but “validating” tests like that is circular.
yea that’s bullshit. they don’t “naturally form a bell curve” (see Simon, 1997; Four Comments on The Bell Curve); it’s all built into the test by the test designers.
A lot of cognitive abilities do indeed form an approximate bell curve (at least for 99% of the population). For example, if you picked 25 verbs at random from the dictionary and asked a random sample of 25 people to define them, you’d find about 2/3rds of the sample would score within 1 SD of the sample’s mean, and about 95% would score within 2 SDs, just as the bell curve predicts. Similarly if you made a list of 20 random words and tested how many of them people could remember after hearing them once. Similarly if you had a computer generate 20 random numbers and asked people to square them in their head etc. None of these tests would be constructed to form a bell curve, but they would roughly form one nonetheless. This is not unique to IQ testing. If you asked random guys on the street to bench press, you’d find the amounts would form a crude bell curve. Exam marks of your college classmates form a bell curve even when no attempt by your professors to make them do so. Height, birth weight, brain weight, head circumference, etc all form bell curves.
Of course not all cognitive abilities form bell curves and understanding which ones do and don’t remains a future project of mine.
So since we know the kinds of items on IQ tests (ones more likely to be found in the middle class) and we know that test constructors put their biases into the tests (i.e., who should score lower and who should score higher), then IQ tests test middle class knowledge and that’s what the score measures.
Except the independent effect of shared environment (i.e. social class) on IQ vanishes by later maturity or even much sooner. Even James Flynn admits this.
He didn’t say this—that I can remember—but “validating” tests like that is circular.
The first IQ tests were indeed circular, but we now know the reason they worked was not because items were chosen so that the “right people” would score high (though they were partly chosen that way) but rather because they loaded high on g. So it’s no longer circular, because we can now selected test items based only on g, which is a criterion independent of how we validate said tests (i.e right people scoring high). That doesn’t prove g is a physiological construct, but it does remove the circularity problem.
“if you picked 25 verbs at random from the dictionary and asked a random sample of 25 people to define them, you’d find about 2/3rds of the sample would score within 1 SD of the sample’s mean, and about 95% would score within 2 SDs, just as the bell curve predicts. Similarly if you made a list of 20 random words and tested how many of them people could remember after hearing them once. Similarly if you had a computer generate 20 random numbers and asked people to square them in their head etc. ”
How do you know?
“None of these tests would be constructed to form a bell curve, but they would roughly form one nonetheless”
It’s completely different to the actual construction of IQ tests, as Jensen himself admits (and as Simon, 1997 states).
“Of course not all cognitive abilities form bell curves and understanding which ones do and don’t remains a future project of mine.”
Bell curves are rare in nature.
“Except the independent effect of shared environment (i.e. social class) on IQ vanishes by later maturity or even much sooner. Even James Flynn admits this.”
What do you mean by “later maturity”? Can you quote Flynn “admitting” that?
“The first IQ tests were indeed circular, but we now know the reason they worked was not because items were chosen so that the “right people” would score high (though they were partly chosen that way) but rather because they loaded high on g. So it’s no longer circular, because we can now selected test items based only on g, which is a criterion independent of how we validate said tests (i.e right people scoring high). That doesn’t prove g is a physiological construct, but it does remove the circularity problem.”
No, it doesn’t. “g” and the construction of tests go hand-in-hand,
there is no shape, there’re only percentiles and scaled scores.
but any sum of a lot of random variables is going to be close to normal because central limit theorem. so for example total points cored in a basketball game is going to be close to normal even though it’s impossible to score less than 0.
btw, i have two eastern gray squirrel babies my dog found. their mother abandoned them. if i turn them in they’ll be euthenized because invasive species. so should i feed them until they open their eyes then leave them in the park or what?
[redacted by pp, aug 24, 2019]
there is no shape, there’re only percentiles and scaled scores.
But if the true distribution of say vocabulary is normal, then the difference is number of total English words known by the 10th percentile and the 50th percentile should equal the difference between the 50th percentile & the 90th percentile
Similarly if spatial ability is normally distributed, the gap in time taken to solve a jig-saw puzzle between those percentiles should also be the same which I highly doubt
It’s interesting how non-normal the distribution of income is. Is that all exploitation or are many cognitive abilities nearly that non-normally distributed
What was the distribution of wealth before agriculture?
so a test can have any distribution simply by matching percentiles to those of the distribution. the title “the bell curve” is dumb.
unless he meant that for an any ordering of a group of people it’s possible to construct a test which would give the same ordering. i think that’s false.
[name redacted by pp, aug 24, 2019]
any test with multiple items whose score is number correct or percentage correct will be normally distributed in the limit of number of items.
so any putative abilities which aren’t normally distributed would have to either:
1. not be measured by multiple items, one shot put OR
2. the items would have to all be the same in difficulty, many shot puts with the same weight shot.
any test with multiple items whose score is number correct or percentage correct will be normally distributed in the limit of number of items
False. I could create a test where the bottom 2% score 5%, the median score is 6% and the top 2% score 100%. Such a distribution would be far from normal.
You can create any distribution you want, so the only relevant question is how normal is the distribution when measured on an absolute scale with a true zero point (i.e. number of words in your total English vocabulary or number of seconds it takes you to solve a small jig-saw puzzle or longest sentence you can repeat from rote memory after one hearing)
create a sum or average of random variables which is not normal in the limit of number of variables…and show that this is reasonable for IQ test questions.
i challenge you.
i also challenge you to make a hole in negative one.
we both know only the wise leader (and genetically superior person) kim jong un can do that.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but An example of a test with a non-normal distribution:
0ne point for each question solved in 1 min without calculator:
(Max score: 7)
5 X 2?
3 X 44?
556 X 442?
776 X 875?
999 X 577?
666 X 745?
654 X 754?
Any test where there’s huge nonlinear jumps in item difficulty will have a non-normal distribution because normally distributed scores are linear
and #2 was a #2.
#2 should OF been…
when the items aren’t the same difficulty only, but the same item…the same sport, shot put, with the same weight.
(X1 + … + XN)/N —> NORMAL DISTRIBUTION WITH MEAN E(X) IF THE XI ARE INDEPENDENT.
IF THEY’RE DEPENDENT WHAT?
>So since we know the kinds of items on IQ tests (ones more likely to be found in the middle class) and we know that test constructors put their biases into the tests (i.e., who should score lower and who should score higher), then IQ tests test middle class knowledge and that’s what the score measures.
you’d have to demonstrate that what’s being tested is just “middle class knowledge” (whatever that is), and that this is fundamentally different or at odds with what iq intends to measure.
that is, a “reified” proxy at best.
>”validating” tests like that is circular
how would you rather they be validated?
RR,
“He didn’t say this—that I can remember—but “validating” tests like that is circular.”
So if Test construction is only relevant to distribution then how can it possibly affect the validity of the tests?
No, it doesn’t. “g” and the construction of tests go hand-in-hand,
Did you actually read Jensen’s response? If you did what are your thoughts on it?
“Hahaha”
That’s not a valid response. Try again.
Todd,
You go on reddit don’t you?
“that this is fundamentally different or at odds with what iq intends to measure.”
My problem with RR’s critique was that since the brain is an experience dependent organ then a measure of social class is still a measure of intelligence. At least if you believe social class is an accurate indicator of ones intellectual environment.
RR,
“He didn’t say this—that I can remember—but “validating” tests like that is circular.”
So if Test construction is only relevant to distribution then how can it possibly affect the validity of the tests?
No, it doesn’t. “g” and the construction of tests go hand-in-hand,
Did you actually read Jensen’s response? If you did what are your thoughts on it?
“Hahaha”
That’s not a valid response. Try again.
Todd,
You go on reddit don’t you?
“that this is fundamentally different or at odds with what iq intends to measure.”
My problem with RR’s critique was that since the brain is an experience dependent organ then a measure of social class is still a measure of intelligence. At least if you believe social class is an accurate indicator of ones intellectual environment.
Thanks Pumpkin. I ll read it after Nyborg.
until when did people try to come up with the total picture? until when were philosophers respectable?
in keeping with the specialization demanded by the labor market…
the last total picture thinker was marx or hegel.
after them everyone is a specialist or a nut job.
i forgot steve jones talked about china people too.
and i forgot that jones sounded retarded at least twice.
https://charlierose.com/videos/7293
it’s also hilarious how peepee accuses me of racism when she is an extreme racist. does she mean it as a compliment?
No I’m the least racist. Because I can accept the truth of hbd, im free to judge everyone as individuals.
The true racists are hbd deniers.
what a loathsome, servile thing to say
I’m interested in the mental leaps you made to come to that conclusion
Emil Kirkegaard and Noah Carl – irrespective of their cognitive abilities – are such good looking boys ! They could make HBD attractive to women and gays.
I am so ashamed of looking as an ugly giant when I see their pic. My girlfriend – and many people – told me I look like the horrible Giants in Game of Thrones. I generally lie (I did it here) about my height because I am ashamed of being a big headed giant with horrible big cheekbones.
At least I am having some holiday in Barceloan and poor japoneae tourists were being assaulted by Muslims and I was drinking a big bottle of water(Vichy Catalan). As I don’t pay attention I didn’t see it but they scream at me, so I went toward the armed Muslims and they all fleeing (was always). I was happy to be their savior on one side but one the other one I am ashamed of looking so scary.
Ps : I am a bit drunk after a huge Spanish diner with 2 bottles of wine included
When I was young I met an Icelandic arm wrestling champion and he wanted to do it with me. I crushed his hand so badly I could have been convicted for assault. That’s when I understood I was not normal in that respect. Thanks god I have never been in a position to fight (except scaring away some bad people but without fighting)
Emil is kinda cute but not carl. emil is like 6/10 (but most women will rate above or below). Most women prefer a more masculine look so Piffer would probably be the best in the hbd sphere.
“I am ashamed of being a big headed giant with horrible big cheekbones.”
Maybe you are just evolved.
Quite a lot to unpack here…
I am so ashamed of looking as an ugly giant when I see their pic.
don’t be. you’re could obliterate both of them in a fight at the same time with one arm tied behind your back. You’re way taller, smarter and stronger than they could ever hope to be. It’s like comparing a human to some flowers. The flowers might be prettier, but the human is completely superior.
It was kind of amusing because I am often lost in my thought.
So I was doing a pause sitting in a public bank and drinking my Vichy Catalan water. I thought I saw a bizarre spectacle of 5 Japanese (2 guys, 3 girls, in their twenties) dancing with 3 Muslims ! That’s when I realized that the Muslims were assaulting the japoneses ! I stood up and I had my bottle of water as an arm and two of them flew. One who was assaulting a guy didn’t see me coming and I grab his hand and returned 4 of his fingers. The guy started crying – he was very young and well built but more like a footballer – and I asked him where he came from . He said Macedonian (I suppose he was Albanian). So I was moved by his own situation and, quite drunk, crying too. The 5 japoneses started crying too. I suppose they were scared something weird was happening. I asked them to go and there were very thankful. Then I asked the guy who was still crying and lying on the ground if he wanted me to call en ambulance but he said his friends would be picking him as soon as I would go. So did I … I was a bit nervous he could fill an assault complaint against me even if I believe my intervention was proportionate and it was in a street with luxury shops where they must be cameras.
I wish I could have kept in my (episodic) memory all those emotional moments.
Thanks all for the kind words.
So bruno, you admit assaulting a young man and then conveniently not remembering anything about it.
Philo i remember the fact.
But I don’t remember like mind travelling not because of what happened but because I can’t. I remember stuff in a third-person way.
It s true that I assaulted him and I don’t know how long it takes for a young man (15-25) to fix his broken fingers. I didn’t take his fingers away from his hand though, so it’s not a mutilation. Maybe it will be the chance of his life and he get out of this business because he become scared of what can happen. It is said that some airpilot after a problem can’t fly again despite knowing the probabilities of incident are infinitesimal …
what about canuck mj stocks pill?
1. how big will the legal mj market be compared to alcohol and tobacco?
2. can mj companies make the same yuge margins of alcohol and tobacco companies?
3. which canuck companies will survive or be acquired?
Pumpkin, I read that working memory can be easily trained if using a particular strategy, and it transfers since all types of working memory use it, is this the case? At least if you see a transfer between something else (train numbers, and get an increase in letters) is it the case? Also, if you improved your mental arithmetic by studying for the SAT, would the wais arithmetic increase count, since you didn’t get better at mental math for the purpose of scoring higher on the test?
Well lots of people have done something in their life that helped prepare them for the WAIS so that’s built into the norms
every member of a battery can be described as g + error.
or “true score” + error.
one or both must be non-normal because normal + normal = normal.
If you distributed money by flipping a coin in a population giving 1 unit for each flip, you’ll get a Bell curve. If it’s the winner takes it all, it would be a Wall (one person ending with everything).
Probably for IQ, if you took only raw data, you would get a lot-normal distribution a bit like height. My guess is that if there is xK genes contribution to intelligence – like height – it’s the same as the flipping a coin with +1 or 0 scénario. But as sommes genes may be detrimental, you can add a -1 case that helps
Stretch the curb towards the tail and you get much more 3sd or -3sd than 1 in 750. Probably normalization diminishes the differences at the extreme.
In scholastic test, there is always a bottleneck at the top score even when it is >99.94% .
The question I have is whether differences in intelligence are more like height (moderate), distance vision (huge) or coloured vision (extra-ordinary). For example, i was astonished to discover that diffeeenxes in vocabulary size are not as big as it was thought . Bottom 5% and top 5% being only factor 2 apart. I remember it was thought blue collar had only 500 words at their disposal and university professor (150k). That was completely false !
Pumpkin, if folks use strategies on the working memory tasks in WAIS, do they use the same strategy outside? All all measure of working memory very interconnected?
so if an IQ test is a battery of subtests each of which is composed of a random sample from items of its type…will the total number correct be necessarily approximately normal?
answer: i would bet on it.
all the IQ test makers need to do is…
1. generate an item space.
2. eliminate “un-fair” questions…”un-fair” can be measured “internally”.*
3. eliminate questions which are too easy or too hard. like excluding a question which only 1 in a million people would get right and for reasons unrelated to their overall score.
*the regatta question from the SAT was deemed un-fair by people like rr, but from a psychometric pov it was fair. probably because it was found that negroes were no less likely to know what a regatta was than white chillens. or no more less likely to answer correctly than for other items which the thought police hadn’t flagged.
so peepee gives a very NON-random selection from item space as an example of a test with a non-normal distribution…[redacted by pp, aug 25, 2019]rr’s question/accusation.
that is,
1. is a very NON-random selection required to give a normal distribution, OR…
2. does a random selection give the best approximation of a normal distribution or close to the best?
My only point was that it’s theoretically possible to create any distribution you want, thus skeptics like rr claim that even the normal distribution is an artifact of test construction
you’re only point was that i’m not sexy.
so i had to go to the semi-“bad part of town” to deliver my squirrels today.
i drove around and around for 2 hours…couldn’t find the address.
so i thought she said “12” but what she (claimed to have) said was “1212”…
the beginning symptoms of hd?
i hope so.
this world is BORING!
rr thinks “regatta” is a kind of pasta.
reading about that japanese mathematician whose 500 page proof of the abc conjecture no one understands. i’d heard of this before peepee commented on it.
1. he appears to be half white. his mother’s name is “anne” according to mongopedia. and he’s really an americo-japanese. he went to exeter and p-town. his jap dad was a prof at h.
2. scholze says mochizuki is gay. scholze is a german fields medal winner and only 30…
obviously NOT mongolian.
winning the IMO and winning the fields medal vs country would be an interesting investigation…but it might be claimed the fields is biased towards white people.
why interesting?
because…
1. maybe ‘gina people are great at the IMO but then not as great as professional mathematicians.
a. because difference in education system, OR…
b. because difference in temperament.
so fields medal winners…
how many ‘gina people in the last 40 years? before 40 years maybe ‘gina people too poor.
just going by ‘gina person sounding names.
Ngô Bảo Châu
Terence Tao
Shing-Tung Yau…37 years ago.
that’s it!
so this shows either “racism” or that ‘gina people are UN-creative.
btw, a male iranian has won too. actually a kurdish iranian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucher_Birkar
i was just hearing some ‘gina person on the radio say that:
1. japanese follow the rules even when they’re not being watched.
2. chinese follow the rules only when they’re being watched.
check my work.
i saw “Shigefumi Mori” and i assumed he was albanian.
so 4 ‘gina people in 40 years.
vs 2 iranians.
serious question…
why has iran won the IMO, but turkey hasn’t? and japan hasn’t! japan’s best show was a #2 in 2009 iiuc.
iran can’t be compared to saudi because more people and shiite.
but then you look at the IMO stats below simple winning or not. and you find…
because ARYAN.
“IRAN” is a cognomen of “ARYAN”.
eric weinstein said a few days ago on a penis-cast called “the art of charm” or something like that…
what must become all of those who get the 1% question and want another…
the MSM isn’t just dumb and propagandistic…
it’s BORING!
and this goes for almost all of the humanities. so if your MSM is just papers in english lit, anthropology, economics, etc.
BORING!
i apologize,
He obtained his Ph.D. in 2012 under the supervision of Michael (((Rapoport))).
so you know he’s fake.
so what about stix?
I wish Trump stood up for america like he does for Russia. Maybe he’d actually help the economy.
Nah, he’s still too dumb.
your dumb person routine was funny the first time.
Poor mugabe… The US has a mental health problem. If trump cared about America more than Russia then maybe we could help him.
Then again if mugabe isn’t American then there is no helping him! As they say, you can’t fix stupid.
you’ve had funnier socks pp
neither of them are socks
Imagine how low your social IQ must be to think I’m a sock puppet. That’s how you know dumb and dumber are wrong about everything else.