I promised various readers I would do articles about Ted Kaczynski, the Columbine shooters and someone’s WAIS-IV results, but since I’ve been way too busy to write anything in depth, I thought for now I would write a brief article about a new movie that’s coming out about a couple that clones a Neanderthal and raises him in our modern society.
I can’t wait to see this movie, though I don’t feel like flying to New York or LA just to do so, though perhaps after this article goes public, I’ll be either sent a free plane ticket or a copy of the film itself.
I’ve been waiting for a film like this all my life so naturally I’m a bit disappointed by the trailer (oops, there goes my free plane ticket).
For one thing, his cranium is too round and Sapien-like. They should have found an actor with a really low forehead and then added prosthetics at the back of the cranium to make his cranium longer. Also his face is too flat. Only anatomically modern humans have flat faces that are tucked under the brain-case. Neanderthals were much more prognathous and looked like their faces were literally pulled out, giving them a snout. Also, he’s not supposed to have a chin.
It’s good that they cast a short actor, but I’m not sure if he’s bulky enough. I believe a Neanderthal raised in our steroid obsessed culture would have looked like Lee Priest.
Why’d they get so many details wrong? Apparently the film is directed by Tim Disney, so perhaps he got the job because of nepotism instead of ability (there goes my free copy of the movie). Walt Disney was probably the brains of the family, and by the time you get to grandnephews like Tim, there’s regression to the mean.
On the other hand, the film might be more accurate when it comes to portraying non-physical traits. Neanderthals left behind no representational art so scientists (especially Noam Chomsky) believe they were much less symbolically and linguistically gifted than we are, so the Neanderthal boy in the film takes everything too literally and talks strangely. There’s a scene in the trailer where an expert is explaining his cognitive profile, which I can’t wait to see,
Pumpkin Person 
TM or whoever is interested,
I could not find the newspaper. I was not at home when I said I will post it. And by the time I went home, newspapers from around that time were disposed of. I asked other people too but same problem. The name of the publication is eenadu. It is a Telugu language newspaper and the article appeared between 1st and 20 th February. Good luck finding the article in the online version of the paper.
But what I said is true. I swear on my life. I feel awkward having to swear about this.
you can tell peepee isn’t a woman because she’s so logical.
Some women can have a male brain.
I mean male type cognitive profile
So i bought a book called the a brief history of thought. Pretty funny that it goes from ancient greece to abou 1960. So in other words the ‘thought’ thats gone onthe pass 50 years is correctly labelled ‘cnn’. Frankfurt school is the original cnn.
All that rubbish about civil rights and the moral arc of history.
From mow on im calling everything danish ‘cnn’. e.g. rrs stances on topics, most of hollywood, the pop culture stuff strve sailer criticises, all that cuck stuff at heritage, any books written by magic negroes, all of ‘moderate’ politicians speeches, anything run by a dane and swanks opinions.
That guy henry mcvey at kkr does a lot of good research. Alot of it is available for free on their website. Far as i know kkr has no need for a macro economist to do private equity or real estate deals so kravis is providing a public good by funding this.
Actually ive often wondered what economists at commercial and investment banks actually do. Maybe some of their work feeds into fixed income sales and trading.
I remember reading jack welchs book on how he turned around ge and he said the first thing he did was fire all the economists.
I was offered a job as an economist at a british public sector body. I would have enjoyed it id say. It would have been a lot like being an academic.I have a few friends at the bank of england. Aquaintances really. Because i find the academic subject of economics a joke, my skepticism around what they actually do is still there. Most economic research unless its empirical is pretty useless.
As robert points out printing money and handing it to rich people to hire more gardeners and butlers is a pretty un efficient usage of the printing press. But of course we all know the real aim of qe was to beef up bank balance sheets and make donors richer. 80 years ago keynes said pronting money and dropping it from helicopters would beat a depression. So its not like they didnt know who to give free money to.
Next puppy will argue judge judy is an elite.
My stance on trump is that he is indeed socially a genius like scott adams has always said. If you listen to him talking in interviews with larry king and so on he sounds like a completely different person to the guy now. I think they did a study saying the candidate trump had the verbal expressiveness of a 14 year old. Not many 70 year old billionaires from new york talk like 14 year olds unless theyre acting.
But i also think the book fire and fury gets a lot of stuff right. He asks rupert murdoch a lot what to do. He talks alot with certain other billionaires like carl ichan and the coal mining guy and doesbt listen to ‘experts’. He has the attention apan of a typical black person.
I would say in terms of policy most of the bad atuff trump has done on obamacare and taxes wasnt his real opinions. He had to do that to get the chamber of commerce and the cucks on board.
The border is all him. He was the only candidate talking about immigration. So hes been true to his word on that and the trade deals. Which is good policy.
Alot of people in the alt right are losing faith in trump. Actually for me he is waaaaaay better than any republican alternative and certainly hilary. So im quite serene.
My stance on trump is that he is indeed socially a genius like scott adams has always said. If you listen to him talking in interviews with larry king and so on he sounds like a completely different person to the guy now.
That was 30 years ago
I think they did a study saying the candidate trump had the verbal expressiveness of a 14 year old. Not many 70 year old billionaires from new york talk like 14 year olds unless theyre acting.
This is where you lack social IQ. It’s extremely unlikely that trump could maintain such an act in every public appearance.
It’s far more likely that he’s cognitively declined in the last 30 years because a) most people are much less articulate at 70 than they were at 40, b) by all accounts, his behavior is even more dysfunctional behind the scenes, c) trump’s father suffered from acute cognitive decline, d) trump’s way too narcissistic to intentionally look dumb to half the country, e) it’s not just his speaking style, his policies are largely incompetent (i.e. ripping up Iran deal) & his governing style is needlessly chaotic
Pumpkin, you know how people say 140 IQ+ don’t really have social skills? What’s the average comprehension sub test score of these folks?
Dude, Rahul, youre the definition of a social retard.
You might have an IQ of 140+.
I certainly am the definition of an incredibly socially inept person. I mean, I still don’t understand how this fucking blog works, and it’s filled with supposedly socially inept people according to pumpkin.
Our government is simply about who gets voted in, weather the election is rigged or not. People are irrational. We instinctual equate elders as being “wise” despite the fact they cognitively decline. (Unless the person is an extreme health freak, taking nu tropics). Not too many elders are like that, but i digress. The human brain is far behind our modern world in my opinion. If Evolution had a single physical body, i’d kick his ass.
Mikey- Wisdom is not the same as intelligence. Now while I do agree we shouldn’t just assume every single elderly guy is wise; wisdom comes with experience, not genes.
The political system is fucked, it’s just a bunch of people who say they’ll do shit; common people still don’t realize that a lot of promises aren’t implemented- the common people believe and vote.
he doesn’t talk like a 14 year old. his speech is distinguished by its extreme ellipticalness. it takes a high IQ and a high social IQ to speak elliptically. try it yourself. it’s a talent or a skill.
You know you sound like a schizophrenic half the time you talk, right?
And you’re the most passive aggressive little bitch I’ve ever met. [redacted by pp, April 19, 2019]
Be a man and don’t moderate that shit, Pumpkin. It’s the truth and he needs to hear it.
Or redact it.
The fire and fury author also said trump had an affair with nikki haley. hos old un ambassador. i believe it.
I actually agree with carl ichan on economic things. He said that dodd frank was good for example. Icahn as treasury sec would be a lot better than goldman running the treasury.
Since you have big 4 experience, what are the politics of most of the people that work there? My guess is mainstream center-left, at least at the California location I interviewed at, but there weren’t any clear indications like there usually are.
Wow theres an openly gay person running for president in the dem primaries. Wont be long before the danes convince dumbass dems to run mountain goat. Just watch. Its alll about novelty for these people. Last two presidential elections a black and a woman. So mountain goat is next.
The other day in london i was on the bus and looked out the window and saw two men kissing and holding hands in public. I actually shuddered. People might SAY they are ok with gays. But i guarantee 90% of dads would hate it if their son cane out as a fairy, unless they had aspergers.
I used to ba a massive liberal. In most waya i am. But as the saying goes. I didnt leave the party. The party left me. I basically have the same opinion as mainstream liberals did pre 2000. Eveb obma was against gay marriage until recently. Just goes to show how much bullshit it is for puppy to say morality is ‘invented’ and progresses steadily in the right direction when both major presidenyial candidates hilary and obama were against gay marriage up until 4 years ago. Puppy will now moderate this for telling the blinding truth.
I wonder if HBDers who denigrate epigenetics would say the same thing after reading Jan Baedke’s Above the Gene, Beyond Biology: Toward a Philosophy of Epigenetics and Maurizio Meloni’s Impressionable Biologies: From the Archeology of Plasticity to the Sociology of Epigenetics? PP what do you think of epigenetics?
I think a lot of scientists confuse epigenic inheritance with prenatal environmental effects & it’s hard to see a mechanism by which mental traits could be epigenically inherited
TEH effects are partly prenatal environmental effects. For example, there is solid evidence that the echoes of slavery caused part of the birth weight gap between blacks and whites. You mean behavior, and behavior is learned. And epigenetic mechanisms include DNA methylation, histone modification, and noncoding ribonucleic acid regulation.
I don’t think any “HBDer” should discuss epigenetics workout reading the 2 aforementioned books.
i doubt hbders would be convinced by those books. They would probably dismiss them as pseudoscience.
Then HBDers are dumb for dismissing something as pseudoscience without reading it. I’d love to know the justification for the belief that the books are pseudoscientific, especially Baedke’s since it’s about working towards a philosophy of epigenetics.
Do the books rebut the concerns of Karin B Mitchel?
https://pumpkinperson.com/2017/11/19/excellent-talk-on-epigenetic-inheritance/
Baedke discusses how epigenetic modifications made in the lab mirror epigenetic modifications observed in the wild, so I’d say those concerns are addressed.
”TEH effects are partly prenatal environmental effects. For example, there is solid evidence that the echoes of slavery caused part of the birth weight gap between blacks and whites.”
Where are this solid evidence* Do you have the study*
I thought slavery shaped partly afro-american psycho-cognitive proclivities..
”You mean behavior, and behavior is learned.”
Just like language* Language is learned*
A child who precociously developed a big vocabulary learned*
Do you can teach human language to primate* Do you can teach advanced mathematics to typical aboriginal man* Do you have any solid evidence about that*
”And epigenetic mechanisms include DNA methylation, histone modification, and noncoding ribonucleic acid regulation.”
I thought your area of expertise is about physical education..
Do you believe holocaust post traumatic disorder was passing throught generations*
Explain with your own words an example of epigenetics…
Since blacks never even inveted the wheel i sometimes wonder how long it would have taken them to figure out evolution or the theory of gravity?
Hobestly my initial answer is never.
People often have fascination of psychopath or at least the brightest of them because psychopathy is a type of smart personality, not only one type thought.
Thesis or right: security without comfort
Antithesis or new left: comfort without security
Syntesis: ……
The biggest or deep fight on ideological/political arena is about good sense [don’t confuse it with common sense].
contra rr, the advantage is purely skeletal. it has nuffin to do with different muscles.
at the very highest level, professional sports, the VERY small difference in mean ability shows…it’s glaring.
in other words…the fastest white man and the fastest chinaman are faster than 99.99..% of sub-saharan africans are EVEN capable of being…but still are usually relegated to the minors of professional sprinting.
same with vertical leap…if you can believe it: the second highest vertical ever recorded for an nba player was for a white guy, Pat Connaughton.
the skeletal advantages in basketball are:
1. the average leg length to torso length ratio is much greater for SSAs.
2. wingspan and finger length is much greater for SSAs.
3. black men have much slighter (much sexier) hips. they’re “weeny butts”.
both of these are OBVIOUSLY explained by allen’s rule.
but in football it’s different. so NE asians have the ideal body type for football, but football isn’t that popular in ne asian countries.
football is just football, unless it’s football.
how did he do that?
because soccer is half circus type ability, which short legs help.
maybe this is the vid i was looking for.
no. that wasn’t it. PATHETIC!
in some recent very high profile game the korean scored 3 of the 4 goals.
one of my (two) airedales was named “hotspur”.
get this…
the airedale has the world’s loudest bark, and he knows it. so he barks.
my first airedale barked at snow (“get out of my yard snow!”) and at furniture (“go back where you were furniture!”).
The evidence that most of what is now our verbal IQ was presented to us with the advent of agriculture is the fact that Aboriginals and other people who never developed agriculture have the lowest IQs for their respective latitudes. Agriculture provides a lot of the genetic mutations for intelligence. So Pumpkin is right, cold weather creates visual-spatial IQ, agriculture creates verbal IQ, at least in theory.
Actually, large populations and agriculture are necessary. The larger the population, the higher the effect agriculture has on cognitive-based mutations. I think the only exception are the Jews, who probably had their verbal IQs take off because of selective breeding.
Regardless, I think it’s sound to say that any intellectual dysgenics that may be taking place might be due to a lack of agriculture, at least indirectly. In agricultural societies, polygamy is practiced by the most powerful in a community, thus exponentiating the growth of intelligence already caused by agriculturally-based genetic mutations themselves.
You’re on fire today Loaded!
Haha, thanks Pumpkin! All this anger has me fired up for something great.
Regarding cold winter theory. I think it’s
also because of land there being more nutrient dense leading to food being more nutrient dense. Also sea food from colder sea water.
Also less prevelance of iQ reducing infectious illnesses in colder climes.
Yes, you’re right, not only is intelligence going to be higher because of better access to nutritious food, particularly from the sea, but you also have less illnesses that depress intelligence even further, like malaria, etc. I also believe your point on how the prevalence of IQ lowering infectious illnesses is low is true too for colder climates.
All in all, the difference between warmer and colder climates is drastically different in terms of intelligence because there is better absorption of omega-3s, less infectious illnesses that lead to mutational load in the genome, and most importantly, the intelligence to survive in harsh climates. This three-part model is the backbone of why Asians are VS-oriented, and why cold winters lead to higher IQs.
Seems, desert area may have similar ”sanitary” effects because lack of infectious agents…
MP, This comment of yours got me thinking and this lead me to discover a new theory of why people in cold climates are smarter.
Here is how I arrived at my theory:
I first thought yes it’s true desert climes have less infectious diseases. Then I thought why is IQ not as high there. Is it the food? No. In fact dry fruits widely consumed there are nutrient dense too. And desert climes can be tough like cold climes. So why is there an intelligence difference.
So My theory is : grains, fruits, animals , sea food are bigger in cold climes. So amh who migrated there became relatively bigger over time than their cousins in hotter climes.
And bigger brains developed to accommodate the bigger bodies. And this also led to higher intelligence?
The brain size map of the world if accurate shows Mongols as having one of the largest brain sizes. They also have the largest bodies among east Asians.
So cold winter>big body>big brain>higher intelligence could have been possible too. I say too also because other factors loaded and I mentioned here and others previously mentioned also contribute.
That said, thank you my big sister oprah, your comment led me to create a new theory in hbd.
Assuming it doesn’t already exist of course.
Colder regions> bigger and hardier food> bigger bodies> bigger brains> higher intelligence.
Sorry another correction… last one:
Colder regions> Bigger, hardier and more nutrient dense food+low infectious illness load> bigger bodies>bigger brains> higher intelligence.
”And bigger brains developed to accommodate the bigger bodies. And this also led to higher intelligence?”
I don’t think big-body caucasians primarily evolved in colder climates but in temperated places. I think extreme climates create pressure to select economic types and not expensive ones. Polar mongoloids look like a minimalized version of human being but none human groups primarily evolved in colder climate-places. Whatever…
”The brain size map of the world if accurate shows Mongols as having one of the largest brain sizes. They also have the largest bodies among east Asians.”
The largest bodies*
Don’t forget darwinian selection to explain your theory. It’s look like environmental one.
Bio body cacucasians could have evolved in. non colder climes And although the weather in colder climes was extreme, bigger bodies could have evolved there in order to enable hunting in colder climes.
Also I don’t know about the body /brain size ratio of polar mongoloids.
Mongoloid race could have primarily evolved in colder climes.
I mean bigger bodied Caucasians could have evolved in colder climes.
Bigger species can be found in temperated climates but in hard climates, climate itself seems naturally limit expensive organic developments, even it also can increase natural selection, i mean, more hard is the environment or ecological niche given species is, faster and restrict is the natural selection.
Hard climates reduce genetic diversity, reduce the filter and among the humans, those who are centrically intelligence-evolved, increase its/these selective tendencies. No other perfect place to select or to increase the selection for providence or abstract planning and creativity as temperated climates with very marked seasons. But in another times temperated climates was in lower latitudes than today, specially during ice era. But all these are try-to-be logical speculations.
Many people like to say just environment differences explain human intelligence evolution while most gigant/earlier steps of sophistication of it happened in intertropical places.
Humans evolved not to develop natural surviving-talents as almost every nonhuman species on earth, less pandas. Prometheus metaphor make a lot of sense. We evolved to have reduced stability to be capable to adapt without wait ofr environmental pressures, in other words, we evolve to emulate environment, to act like ”god”. All nonhuman animals are very passive in their interactions with environment, while we are the less one.
However, one needs only to look at Aboriginals and other “less intelligent” hunter-gatherers to get an idea of how VS (visual-spatial) intelligence is developed. Essentially, any hunter-gatherer society will lean towards visual-spatial intelligence. They might even score well on patterns, too, because a lot of hunter-gathering is based on strict cues and patterns. However, they won’t have the logic-based intelligence that is derived from verbal thinking, they won’t have the symbolic intelligence, etc. Aboriginals actually have a standard deviation higher visual memory according to some studies. So their aptitude is hindered more by not having large enough populations to build mutational effects in their genes that would positively affect intelligence, as well as not having the societal complexity to select for or gain intelligence in terms of verbal abilities.
Because hunter-gatherers are good with patterns, any IQ-test with a resemblance to what their lifestyle is will only overestimate their full-scale IQ. However, a logic-based intelligence test would underestimate their intelligence. For hunter-gatherers, the perfect test would be a mix of these two forms of cognition.
Even though I’ve endorsed the theory that hunter-gatherers are genetically less intelligent because their small isolated populations had less access to high IQ mutations, I’m not 100% sold on the idea. It could be that they score low because of cultural bias on the tests, especially the verbal ones, or because health issues like fetal alcohol syndrome are very common in colonized hunter-gatherer groups.
It’s correct compare all human groups but also correct understand that compare peoples on different ”civilizational” stages it’s just, partly speaking, comparison between oranges and apples.