It’s well known that chimps and bonobos have much larger overall genitalia size than humans, but most people think this is only because of their colossal testicular size (triple that of humans).
However it seems that chimps also have longer penises than non-African humans, and bonobos have much longer penises than all human races!
According to an article in Psychology Today, bonobos have an erect penis length of 6.8 inches, followed by chimps at 5.8 inches.
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By contrast, human racial data found by commenter Afrosapiens shows peoples of African ancestry averaging an erect penis size of 5.81 inches, followed by whites at 5.71 inches, and East Asians at 5.08 inches (though it’s worth noting that human penis size data is notoriously unreliable)
So even before adjusting for their much smaller heights, our closest ape relatives have far bigger male genitalia than most humans do, both in testicle size and in penis length. Though humans have thicker penises.
Sex is such a dominant part of human life that it’s fascinating to think that our closest ape relatives (with triple our testicle size) experience triple our sex drive. Despite having an average IQ of only 14, they probably wouldn’t trade places with humans because it would mean giving up a sex life so intense and extreme, us humans can’t even imagine it.
Pumpkin Person 
As expected, you didn’t read the whole passage thus causing error.
Length wise,as mentioned in the article, Humans aren’t longer. However in the study’s sample Men were only .2 inches shorters than Bonobos at 6.6, thus lionger than chimps. The article later menioned that this was inflated, but this could’ve also suggested an inflated ape size as well.
Furthermore, while we are shorter if we accept these data points as legit, we are robustly girthier.
“Nevertheless, the human penis is the widest compared to other primates. Indeed, average girth, flaccid or erect, is close to average length.”
Women have even commented of preferring girth to length at least in certain conexts.
https://www.livescience.com/46141-penis-size-girth.html
As expected, you didn’t read the whole passage thus causing error.
Length wise,as mentioned in the article, Humans aren’t longer. However in the study’s sample Men were only .2 inches shorters than Bonobos at 6.6, thus lionger than chimps. The article later menioned that this was inflated, but this could’ve also suggested an inflated ape size as well.
No only the human data was so ridiculously inflated, probably because it was self-reported. Ape data is obviously not self-reported.
Furthermore, while we are shorter if we accept these data points as legit, we are robustly girthier.
Which I mentioned, but overall our closest ape relatives have much bigger genitalia cause not only are there penises longer, but their testicles are triple.
“No only the human data was so ridiculously inflated, probably because it was self-reported. Ape data is obviously not self-reported.”
You claim and measurement error based on a probability, but not without actual reference to the study since the only thing that indicated inaccuracy was OTHER studies which have been known to have the same problem.
Furthermore, while we are shorter if we accept these data points as legit, we are robustly girthier.
“Which I mentioned, but overall our closest ape relatives have much bigger genitalia cause not only are there penises longer, but their testicles are triple.”
Length wise they aren’t that much larger compared to testicles, but otherwise you still have the smaller penises and testicles of Orangutans and Gorillas.
Testicle data.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8430755
So, with the splits of Great apes considered in proximity to the Homo line, the Homo genus is simply the lowest end of the particularly large testicle group of Great Apes and this partiucularly in the testicle department.
This suggest that Penis/testicle development, particularly enlargement, is recent and asymmettical to each other.
*You claim an measurement error based on probability, but not with actual reference to the study.
I cited the Psychology Today article which agreed with everything I said about chimps/bonobos having longer penises than humans
“I cited the Psychology Today article which agreed with everything I said about chimps/bonobos having longer penises than humans”
You didn’t refer to anything regarding the flaws of the study comparing length and what data needed to be adjusted, just that the myth of discrepancy between apes were misrepresented.
Finally, you conflate penile length/testicle size with ancestral high-sex drive yet the differences between all great apes in each aspect of dimsension suggest unique forms of sexual selection rather than simply descreasing overtime (which would be inaccurate anyways since the overall trend would suggest an increase if distance for Gomo is used a a proxy to basalness).
You didn’t refer to anything regarding the flaws of the study comparing length and what data needed to be adjusted, just that the myth of discrepancy between apes were misrepresented.
My source for the ape penis length was Psychology Today. My source for the human penis size lengths was the stats found by Afro. Both sources were linked to. If you have better data to replace these sources, feel free to provide, otherwise, there’s nothing to say.
“My source for the ape penis length was Psychology Today. My source for the human penis size lengths was the stats found by Afro. Both sources were linked to. If you have better data to replace these sources, feel free to provide, otherwise, there’s nothing to say.”
Yes there is, your source on dimensions not supporting an ancestor-descendant decrease in sexual selelction.
the point is self-reported measures are totally unreliable AND measurements from one study to another are unreliable…because “how to measure your penis” is not a thing.
and the difference between a hard on and a raging hard on can be 1/2″.
the proper method is to measure on the top from the body to the tip with a straight ruler…not a tape measure…curved guys are out of luck.
but what is “the body”? is it the pubic bone? or is it to the “flesh angle”?
“but what is “the body”? is it the pubic bone? or is it to the “flesh angle”?”
Measure below the pubic symphysis to the tip of the penis. The pubic symphysis joint connects to the ligaments of the penis. So if you measure right below that you should get a valid measure.(Gotta verify that later in my anatomy and physiology textbook, my anatomy is rusty.)
from a woman’s perspective a penis is just an unbelievably huge clitoris.
and most women simply can’t get off from intercourse.
so a guy with a thick 4″-er is probably not less attractive.
4″ is still a yuge clit.
LMAO! Most women get vaginal orgasms, you just don’t know how to provoke them. I give my lady back to back orgasms.
I bet a bonobo could give the ladies even more orgasms. Not only are there penises much longer than yours, but their testes are triple yours.
Bonobos have penises of 8cm, I’m more than twice as big and testicle size is irrelevant to female orgasm. Plus their dicks have spines, which is painful. Fortunately, their intercourse lasts only 10 to 15 seconds.
Bonobos have erect penis length of 6.8 inches (17.3 cm)
No, 8cm and much thinner. A human female would hardly feel it.
Nope, double it.
No, that’s only according to your bs source that also claims there are no racial differences in penis size.
RR claims no racial difference in penis size too, though I disagree. Anyone with a brain can see bonobos average closer to 17 cm erect than 8. Just look at the pictures.
ROFL, Just look at the video.
No look at the picture of the bonobo’s penis. If you think that’s 8 cm, your spatial IQ is below 80.
1 bonobo vs dozens of chimps filmed in their normal life.
We were talking about bonobos.
Most women get vaginal orgasms
only a virgin could say such a thing.
LMAO, sure. You’ve never touched a woman.
You must be seriously lame in bed:
The study purpose was to assess, in a U.S. probability sample of women, experiences related to orgasm, sexual pleasure, and genital touching. In June 2015, 1,055 women ages 18 to 94 from the nationally representative GfK KnowledgePanel® completed a confidential, Internet-based survey. While 18.4% of women reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm, 36.6% reported clitoral stimulation was necessary for orgasm during intercourse, and an additional 36% indicated that, while clitoral stimulation was not needed, their orgasms feel better if their clitoris is stimulated during intercourse. Women reported diverse preferences for genital touch location, pressure, shape, and pattern. Clinical, therapeutic, and educational implications are discussed.
and the abstract is self-contradictory.
female circumcision = no orgasm.
your make-believe wife knows this.
No clitoral orgasm, possibility of vaginal orgasm if the guy is skilled.
the woman who wrote this hadn’t had the bbc. right afro?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_the_Vaginal_Orgasm
Yup, a radical feminist who has never been fucked by a competent man.
afro’s girlfriend:
You’re a joke. You can’t make it more obvious that you’re a virgin.
so that’s pill, swank, me, and you. sad!
Only you and schizy.
quoting afro:
1. Most women get vaginal orgasms
and this is proved by…
2. 18.4% of women reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm
indeed!
3. You’re a joke. You can’t make it more obvious that you’re a virgin.
OMG, so in addition to being a virgin, you’re also an illiterate. The relevant info is that only 36% of women can’t reach climax without clitoral stimulation. Also, FYI, circumcised women get orgasms.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17970975/
which contradicts the other part.
quoting afro again:
OMG, so in addition to being a virgin, you’re also an illiterate.
Contradicts nothing. A minority of women can’t have an orgasm without clitoral stimulation. Most women can achieve orgasm without, most prefer a mix of the two.
i’m tired of afro’s lies and vulgarity. he’s why people don’t like negroes.
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a6131/how-to-have-vaginal-orgasm/
Haha, what a waste of time.
How to have a vaginal orgasm? Fuck with a skilled man.
supposedly orgasms have a psychological component for women that ejaculation doesn’t have for men. (men don’t have “orgasms”.) but my guess is this is just more pseudoscience…male chauvinist pseudoscience. vibrators do give orgasms even when not in contact with the clitoris. why? because they vibrate the whole apparatus. DUH!
a woman getting an orgasm from thrusting is as rare as a gay man getting one from thrusting. it happens…but for almost nobody…almost never. ask santo.
what is true is that straight women desire intercourse KNOWING that it’s not enough.
a man’s most important organ is his hand…or tongue…or pubic bone…
it is possible to fuck a woman or for a woman to ride a man to orgasm…but the position and motion must stimulate her lady penis…even if indirectly via the tugging of the labia minora on the clitoral hood.
The ultimate orgasm for a woman is the cervical orgasm. You can only call yourself a man once you have triggered one in your life.
you mean “cervical bruising”. this is what happens when you try to go balls deep and you’re longer than 7″…at least for most women and a genuine 7″.
i have no doubt that there can be a sensation of pressure or something else vague.
but i also have no doubt that there’s never an orgasm as a result.
any woman who tries masturbating with a non-vibrating dildo will know…
it’s useless.
Nah, a bruised cervix isn’t a pleasurable experience. A cervical orgasm overwhelms the whole body, almost mystical as a feeling.
female sexual whatever is a TABOO…at least in america.
so only men can talk about it.
that chimp’s berries look like water balloons. sad!
the interesting thing for RR to comment on is how chimps are stronger than the strongest human but their muscles aren’t bigger that the strongest human’s.
an example of how size isn’t everything.
Chimps have a higher proportion of fast twitch (type II) fibers Chimps are “only” 1.35 times stronger than us though.
The 1.35 times differential predicted here seems modest compared with popular accounts of “super strength” in chimpanzees. … Although our simulations do not reproduce the earlier experimental designs in detail, the close approximation of our results to the 1.5 times average suggests that muscle mechanics—MHC isoform content, in particular—accounts for much, but not necessarily all, of the measured chimpanzee–human performance differential.
[…]
Our integrated experiment-simulation results indicate that the skeletal muscle of chimpanzees is better suited for maximum dynamic force and power output than that of humans, perhaps reflecting the chimpanzee’s greater reliance on tree climbing and suspension for survival and fitness. Furthermore, we propose that the higher fraction of MHC I fibers and shorter muscle fiber lengths in human skeletal muscle are adaptive for repetitive, low-cost contractile behavior.
[…]
These data suggest that, although intrinsic muscle contractile properties appear to be conserved, the hominin lineage was characterized by an increase in MHC I isoform content and a decrease in muscle fiber length (19), both of which can impact a range of muscle-driven tasks.
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2017/06/20/1619071114
Ties in well with the ER hypothesis.
It’s a deceiving statement, because humans are exponentially more endurant than Chimps. If we had purely fast twitch muscle fibres as they did, we would be far stronger. It’s because we have endurance focused muscle fibres that we are physically weaker in short bursts, but have several times more stamina.
What’s deceiving?
“how chimps are stronger than the strongest human but their muscles aren’t bigger that the strongest human’s.
an example of how size isn’t everything.”
Size matters tremendously, humans being ‘weaker’ is because they have different muscles fibers designed for a different task, eg; stamina. If we converted all human fibers to fast twitch, they would be overwhelmingly stronger than chimps.
I showed why.
Fenoopy thanks for the lesson but I’m already aware of that stuff.
I’m not trying to teach you, I agree with most of what you wrote [on this topic]. I was speaking to Mugabe but clicked the wrong comment layer.
i’ve seen it a lot recently. white guys with black gals.
the facts in the US are that such pairings are less likely to end in divorce than white white.
but black man white woman are 2x as likely, almost 100% end in divorce.
afro needs to explain this.
of course pill and i know the truth.
White men dating black women like Oprah is the result of Pumpkin endlessly promoting it on his blog.
white men are bigger.
there is a perfect size and shape.
all deviations from it are inferior.
oh believe me!
Bare Naked Ladies is not explicitly pro-lesbian world domination.
4 Non Blondes is.
The Bare Naked only canadians could like that shit.
they sound exactly like Informer by another hockey fag.
let’s do it american wigger style…
because when white folk have their back to the wall…
they beat all…
and it isn’t even fair!
so insightful!
black: less than 10 (defective audio) don’t follow the rules and we ain’t even knows what duh rules is.
asian: 10 (100% volume) follow rules…bitch when following the rules doesn’t make you bill gates.
white: 11 (153% volume) CREATE!
take pill. un-uh-stan.
black people make me laugh.
A good example of anti HBD stance is the French wiki page in men erected sex size where they said there is no evidence on average race differences and that it’s probably a racist prejudice.
As most people can’t check it, this lie can go on. I happened to have spent 2 monts at cap d’agde when I was 19 yo where people have orgy on the beach. I have seen zillions of erected penises then and there is no doubt there are huge race differences !
I was very diligent on inspecting it because I had seen in June in tv (Arte) a professor of physiology who said that even if there were individual differences in non erect penis sizes, they were all the same size once erected and I found that claim very bizarre.
That mirror most current debates on intelligence size 😉
There is no good evidence. All of the evidence is flawed.
What’s the best data you’re aware of?
Don’t cry, we are with you!!!
God said the darkness is a shinning clue!!
“I happened to have spent 2 monts at cap d’agde when I was 19 yo where people have orgy on the beach. I have seen zillions of erected penises”
What the hell?!
No I remember that was very enlightening. I think I am on the low side of libido but there I discovered people who were sex hysterics. There was even a gay area, a bit further, but I didn’t dare to adventure myself so far, and I regret it. And it was not only like a zoo. People were very human once they were not « busy »
Then I had the chance to talk to many people – mostly 30 to 80 with an average age of 45 – who were incredibly kind and open, both men and women. Lots of them where professionals with graduate diploma. They gave me the best study and career advice in my life and no one pushed me into doing anything !
But the sister of my grandma who owned the house died and it went to other people in my familles that never invited me again so I returned to my family house in Spain with very traditional people. So it was only one summer experience. And as I don’t have any visual imagination nor vivid memories, I remember only the facts and conversations . I have no impressions left from this. That’s too bad …
Probably not huge differences. It’s quite well established that Asians are on average substantially smaller than the rest. And the data, even if poor indicates Africans are somewhat bigger than the other non-Asians. Latin Americans get no credit for their very respectable endowment. And humans do have larger penises than other apes, this although it’s boneless.
If according to you, Blacks have the largest penises, are the most superior race athletically and also the most attractive to women as a sexual fantasy, if IQ is nonsense and Blacks are as smart as everybody else, what explains their status today given their obvious superiority to the other races of man?
Envy?
Don’t worry about us, we’re fine.
How could envy alone allow all other civilizations to conquer and enslave Africans? Surely the superior African man could repel the invaders?
Open a history book. No non-Africans have invaded any significant territory south of the Sahara before the late 19th century. At that time France had already decided that Algeria was an integral part of France, that the natives (except the Jews) were nothing and that Algeria was as French as Provence. No non-Africans enslaved us either, they bought slaves from African slavers. But they soon realized it was a huge mistake when the Haitians defeated the armies of France, Britain and Spain which led to the abolition of the slave trade in 1807, just three years after Haiti’s independence and subsequent genocide of the whites. The Berbers in comparison have never been able to live free from foreign rule, from the Phoenician colony of Carthage to current Arab domination.
I haven’t said a single thing about Berbers, I don’t know why you’re attacking on that point. Why is Africa shit? Why has there never been an African great power? Why aren’t Blacks respected as a race?
You talk like you’re in a position to judge as if your people had any significant history.
Africa isn’t shit:
Visitors are quite appreciative:
You’re just showing off your incredible level of ignorance.
Why are Blacks 50% of all homicides in America?
Probably the same reason why North Africans are 70% of France’s prison population.
My people? I’m mixed race and majority White. The other 20% is North African, that’s a minority percentage. My DNA is typical Spanish-Berber Jew, very similar to your dirty sharmouta coal-burner wife though I have Ashkenazi DNA as opposed to Sephardic for some reason. Why didn’t you marry a masculine looking Black girl like [redacted by pp, June 10, 2018] if Blacks are so great?
Love and marriage are grown up folks stuff that you will never fathom. Stick to 4chan and other incel stuff.
pill is right. afro is mentally retarded.
afro says: africa is a shithole because people envy blacks.
The illiteracy intensifies.
I know you’re a nerd, Afro.
LMAO! Sure.
they probably wouldn’t trade places with humans because it would mean giving up a sex life so intense and extreme, us humans can’t even imagine it.
That’s fuckin amazingly hot.
AHAHAHA
G-man does not get enough credit for his sense of humour.
Thanks Pumpkin I try to be subtle with it. Although I believe you’re the master of subtle humor. And Mugabe and Afro are funny too. And even Animekitty.
🙂
Deal with it agrees!!
This is the type of porn afro likes.
my brother and i and our friends regarded bourdain as the coolest guy on the planet.
he wasn’t handsome but he was tall and thin and cool.
but i guess just immature.
he left an 11 year old daughter…not cool.
I was shocked by his passing. Never knew he had mental issues, even though I knew he had been into drugs, and was a bit of an eccentric and a renegade. It seemed like he had the perfect life/job/show. Weird.
Maybe it was Trump’ s presidency.
He hanged himself at Kaysersberg in France (Alsace). Here, he was not a celebrity at all. I knew his name through english people …
maybe he didn’t have issues, just perversion. i would bet on its being accidental. he was engaging in autoerotic asphyxiation. like david carradine. robin williams had a fatal disease. it makes zero sense. no note. details are he was not hanging. his feet were on the ground. he was in the bathroom and had used his bathrobe’s belt.
apparently most suicides are not mentally ill, but there are only two legit reasons for suicide i can think of.
1. a horrible fatal illness or chronic pain or like goering and himmler or facing a life genuinely not worth living.
2. sort of like convicting yourself of a capital crime and carrying out the sentence. this is what ralph feinnes’s character does in In Bruges after he kills a child (who was actually a midget).
it happens sometimes in war that someone jumps on a grenade or something like that to save other people. i don’t count this as suicide.
Deal with it agrees!!
even better video
top 10 black man thoughts:
1. other black dudes
2. kim k
3. would we blacks have created a vast and complex civilization if he weren’t good at sex and good at sports?
4. fried chicken
5. muh dick
6. the man
7. bubble butts
…
Hahaha, you’re just mad that you can’t make a lady cum with your dick.
Interesting. I had always though chimps/bonobos had somewhat smaller penises than humans (about 3-4 inches I had read, but this is apparently not true). According to some sources, they (chimps/bonobos) have longer penises, but are in fact smaller than humans in girth (they have thinner penises). However gorillas (our second closest relatives) do have very small penises, about 1-2 inches I think, and fairly small testicles.
https://carta.anthropogeny.org/moca/topics/penis-size-and-morphology
“they (chimps/bonobos) have longer penises”
more so bonobos than chimps (my mistake)
Basically what I thought.
“By contrast, human racial data found by commenter Afrosapiens shows peoples of African ancestry averaging an erect penis size of 5.81 inches, followed by whites at 5.71 inches, and East Asians at 5.08 inches”
Yet interestingly the size of Asians in (likely mostly born in) the West (the US, Australia, Canada, etc) is (reportedly, in the link) somewhat bigger at 5.57 inches, perhaps the supposedly lower values in E. Asia are partly environmental (related to things like diet and/or other factors, which once they are in the west are somewhat altered). (and the South East Asians are somewhat between at 5.37 in.)
“(and the South East Asians in South East Asia are somewhat between at 5.37 in.)”
Afrosapiens comment template: You’re just mad that I [get, have, etc] more [muh white wimmenz, muh bbc, muh vaginal orgasms, muh female sexual fantasies]. White women love Black men. [insert video interview of white wimmenz]. [insert obligatory LMAO! sometimes with Sure! for good measure]
Is the acne getting to your brain and giving you 4chanosis?
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc
More like non sequitur.
4chan is for old people like you.