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This week I will blog about the GRE and maybe sex differences in IQ (per commenter Marry) but today, like every Sunday, is open thread day.

In honor of Mother’s Day, I want to mention a BEAUTIFUL interview I heard on CBC radio with indigenous writer Terese Marie Mailhot. You can listen to the whole thing here. The interview opens with Mailhot reading a gut-wrenching scene (from her memoir?) where she’s having breakfast with her white boyfriend.
Mailhot wants to eat both a proper breakfast with eggs and toast and another breakfast with French toast and syrup, but the white boyfriend is having none of it. So she orders only the proper breakfast with toast.
But the toast doesn’t come.
She complains to the waitress and the toast comes cold.
She complains again and now her breakfast is cold.
Her white boyfriend looks at her with disgust.
Mailhot also talks about her childhood. She understands why so many indigenous girls keep going missing because growing up in an indigenous community, there were always random men offering her drives to school. They looked perfectly normal, until you looked in their eyes….
Switching gears, I watched a talk by Yuval Noah Harari.
He makes the point that what makes humans superior is not our intelligence per se, but our ability to cooperate. He notes than one on one, we’re no better than a chimp. Indeed if he was placed on a deserted island with a chimp, he suspects the chimp would win. But if you placed a hundred men against hundred chimp, then men would win because we can cooperate and they can’t.
For those of us who romanticize the idea of the superior individual, this was a hard pill to swallow.
But I think humans are superior to chimps even on the individual level, if given enough time. The chimp might dominate the man for the first few decades, but if both individuals could live for centuries, the man would eventually figure out how to build a cage and put the chimp in it. Perhaps collectivism and culture achieve what one individual life doesn’t have time to do.
The 21st century technology we enjoy today is the cumulative collective result of the 107 billion humans to have ever walked the Earth.
Could a single stone age man living all alone on Earth have eventually achieved 21st century technology all by himself, if he lived 107 billion times as long as the average man? By contrast, a lone chimp living the same amount of time, would never get beyond the stone age.
If you put any of the founders in a time machine and showed them that AIG ad with the black guy and white female teenager holding hands, I would be shocked out of my mind if none of them thought it was disgusting.
All a sudden jews immigrate in the early 20th century and use their verbal IQ to convince a retarded majority that the founders were evil, and that they are right about how racial relations should be and idiots like Swank re-interperet the constitution to pretend the founders REALLY meant they loved blacks and saw them as magical even thought they afforded blacks 3/4 the representation of whites for districting purposes.
If jefferson saw gays openly on tv, I would have ZERO doubt his reaction would be negative.
Countries with no jew media have the exact same reaction – the attitude to gays in Africa or Latin America is 10 times worse than western nations. Even Afro has to admit blacks hate gays.
Same autistic and failled repetition again
first basic lesson
philosopher = wiser
something you’re NOT.
i admit that it is sad that swank must, or feels she must, pretend to be male.
in a society with uni-sex restrooms swank would not feel she must pretend to be male.
i admit that it’s sad that muggy can’t own up to the real reason that he hates men and women’s bathrooms has nothing to do with the 14th amendment and everything to do with the disgusting things he’s been forced to do in men’s bathrooms….
“The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself”
I bet if that native woman wrote a book saying blacks are retarded and a social menace, pumpkin would have ignored this woman, even if she kept everything else the same in her book.
In the pokemon hierarchy the jews have created, blacks are the number 1 pokemon.
Why?
Because if you can get the sheep to accept the jackal, the sheep will accept the wolf.
Basic conditioning theory.
Because if you can get the sheep to accept the jackal, the sheep will accept the wolf.
this is what i mean…your jokes and asides literally could only be funny to someone with no or little real world experience or education.
jackals and wolves belong to the same genus, but domesticated dogs are also in that genus, which is why the relationship between them is not even close to enough for your ‘point’ to make any sense.
…
there’s hope for you yet, though….
maybe oprah would like you
jackals and wolves belong to the same genus, but …
^^^AUTISM^^^
If someone will accept a poodle, he will accept a wolf.
muggy now must stipulate that this is a zinger or quip or ‘profound’ statement.
no. it’s a statement which only entertains an autist.
you know what pill means….i hope.
tbf swank, you know exactly what he means, attacking the words themselves is pointless/dishonest
go reread what i said and what the attack is actually on…
it’s even more malevolent than that pill.
if you can replace sheep with jackals they can’t gang up on the wolves.and the wolves no longer need to be accepted by the much more numerous sheep.
as can be seen here the yankees who authored the 14th amendment likely would have OPPOSED de jure segregation, because like petit bourgeois white liberals today…they had zero experience with blacks and hated southerners.
a white tax payer and segregationist too poor to pay private school tuition for his children is being extorted at gun point TOO!
this is TOO much for swank’s tiny guinea wop brain.
SAD!
because white children at an integrated school can’t avoid black children. it’s impossible…this natural human impulse….
ANYWAY…
MEESE MAY BE A DOUCHE, BUT…
THE FURY AT ACTIVIST JUDGES, AND…
THE HATRED OF SOME JUDGES FOR OTHER JUDGES…
IS ALL RESOLVED WHEN THEY AGREE ON ONE CRITERION…
ORIGINAL INTENT.
JUST LIKE ECON PROFS HAVE PHYSICS ENVY…
JUDGES HAVE LEGISLATOR ENVY…
LEGISLATORS MUST MAKE MORAL ARGUMENTS.
JUDGES MUST NOT.
IS ALL RESOLVED WHEN THEY AGREE ON ONE CRITERION…
the time machine!
this resolves everything, according to muggy.
everyone imagines a time machine in the same way and with the same results.
LEGISLATORS MUST MAKE MORAL ARGUMENTS.
yes, a body charged with ‘majority rules’ is the one that will have the audacity to make a ‘moral’ argument. moral arguments are inflexible and rigid against the passions of the mob. so the mob should be the one to make these judgments, eh?
i agree that only a pure maths ug would even think that to be a compelling argument
this resolves everything, according to muggy.
everyone imagines a time machine in the same way and with the same results.
OF COURSE THEY DON’T YOU FUCKING ITALIAN VIRGIN!
BUT THEY CAN RESPECT EACH OTHER WHEN THEY COME TO DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS.
DRRR!
AND…MOST IMPORTANT…
THEY AGREE THAT EITHER ONE MAY HAVE GOTTEN IT WRONG AND THAT FUTURE HISTORIOGRAPHY CAN RESOLVE THE DIFFERENCE.
oh, so it’s a good tool to use to persuade others of the decisions….
🙂
and no mention of tom wolfe’s death 2 days ago.
[redacted by pp, may 16, 2018]
wolfe was a cynic in the contemporary sense par excellence.
the last of the goyish literateurs…before the jew take over.
top 5 best movies of the 80s was The Right Stuff
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/87433b58-192a-43af-8bd9-a77e549a9536
OUR GERMAN SCIENTISTS ARE BETTER ZAN ZERE GERMAN SCIENTISTS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG0gMDI2TJc
should’ve been…
ZAN ZEIR GERMAN SCIENTISTS…
i can’t he’p it…i was born with a brass foot in my mouth.
swank is autistic so he doesn’t realize that i am NOT a “cold hearted honky”…
just a honky who believes in original intent.
AND that judges are NOT legislators.
they’re judges.
yeah, that’s exactly what Ed Meese said about himself. coincidence?
bret weinstein claimed that both male and female humans are selective…but for different reasons.
he claimed that in other species the males are un-selective and thus have to show off for the selective females.
sounds like jew-speak.
when i was in hs i interpreted my attraction to a given female as…
“she’s so beautiful”…
but standing back and talking to other dudes…
i learned that i was mis-interpreting…
myself.
another example of how people don’t understand themselves…
so that “social intelligence” must be a lot more than empathy.
for example, i learned that the woman’s voice was also very important and that other guys would say, “oh yeah…i guess she’s hot…but i like…”
so the reality i imagine is that mean and women do NOT actually select for different things…
but they THINK they do.
…is that men and women…
or to put it another way…
in iceland (where men and women are most equal) the men care about their appearance…
but not that much…
because that would be gay.
……….
i’d prefer an intelligent woman with a sexy voice who had an ok body and face to a woman who had only a sexy body and face.
what’s even worse for the lesbian man-hater position is that…
women are way more into dudes’ bodies. whereas men are way more into the face.
AND as a marxist…
i imagine that segregation was maintained by the rich and powerful in part or entirely because it served to distract poor whites from their poverty.
so to say.
this take is supported by the FACT that…
the bernie type politicians up to and including george wallace were…
SOUTHERN WHITE RACISTS/SEGREGATIONISTS.
NO SOUTHERN WHITE RACISTS…
NO FDR.
I SAY TO YOU THIS DAY…
SWANK HATES BLACK FOLK…
HOW DO I KNOW?
BECAUSE HE HATES FDR…
FDR…
SAD!
i also remember in hs how the girls were so NOT NOT into appearance.
hs is a place where most feel economically secure…their instincts have yet to be corrupted…so much…IT’S LIKE HUNTER-GATHERER DAYS…
it was fucking sad!
a good looking new student or exchange student…
the girls basically said, “my vagina is hungry…must feed my vagina…”
they THREW themselves at guys.
the now disgraced charlie rose said the same…
intelligence makes a woman more beautiful…i wish more women understood that…
ATTRACTION IS CONCRETE.
THAT IS…ONE IS NOT ATTRACTED FOR REASONS X, Y, AND Z.
ONE IS NOT ATTRACTED TO CERTAIN FACETS X, Y, AND Z OF THE PERSON.
ONE IS ATTRACTED TO THE WHOLE GEM AND WHO WEARS IT AND WHERE SHE WEARS IT…
SO TO SAY.
one very simple FACT about humans which militates against much difference in what men and women want is…
humans have brains…
any sexual relationship is gonna be a yuge headache…
unless you’re black…like afro.
sad!
the answer to “does size matter?”
is…
of course it does you fucktards!
it just doesn’t matter much. and it doesn’t matter most of the time.
it only matters at the extremes.
some guys have super skinny or super short cocks…
it matters.
BUT THERE IS SUCH A THING AS TOO BIG.
OH BELIEVE ME!
OH BELIEVE ME!
HAS SWANK EVER EATEN THIS?

IN THE US NO ONE HAS EVER EATEN SUCH OUTSIDE A RESTAURANT…
AND INSIDE A DOG IT’S TOO DARK TO READ.
COUNT ME IN!
what is it…
the same adolescent and sociopathic repetition of the same bullshit, well, this blog is this…
Ban Santo, all Brazilians should be banned on sight.
GERMANY ALWAYS WINS!
UNLESS ITALY STOPS THEM.
SPAIN’S NOT GONNA.
FRANCE IS A BATTERED WIFE.
BRITAIN LIVES IN ITS OWN BUTT.
SAD!
GERMANY WINS!
so people like lion hold up the example of the short fat old ugly rich man with a beautiful wife…
1. she’s not that beautiful. NEVER.
2. this is RARE.
FOR SWANK…
HUMANS HAVE MINDS…
BIG DIFF…
THIS EXPLAINS AFRO.
SAD!
swank’s hero said it perfectly…for once…
What Texas has chosen to do is well within the range of traditional democratic action, and its hand should not be stayed through the invention of a brand-new “constitutional right” by a Court that is impatient of democratic change.
this does NOT mean that DEMOCRACY mayn’t soon come to more radical conclusions…
as it did in johnson’s civil rights acts…
…
it means that swank was born without a penis…and that’s SAD!
We don’t live in a democracy, which is why that entire paragraph is retarded —- as are most ‘arguments’ proceeding from the ‘let democracy have its day’ proposition. In a Republic, it is a minority (of any kind) we are concerned for (as James Madison said), so how…exactly…will ‘democratic change’ ever protect that minority?
Seems like an OBVIOUS point that is explicitly stated as part of ORIGINAL INTENT….
…BACK TO THE OLD COUNTRY!
TRY HARDER MY NEGROES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLUZ5prTcXk
ITALIANS WERE MORE NUMEROUS IN ARGENTINA AND URUGUAY…
YET NO COSA NOSTRA…
WHY?
BECAUSE THEY WEREN’T TREATED LIKE [N word redacted by pp, may 17, 2018]…
CRIME
FROM
OPPRESSION
IT HAPPENS!
OR also because the relatively less proportion of southern italians there as well in Brazil…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Argentines#Areas_of_origin
Southern italians, on avg, are trash..
[Anglo-jew-nations = ~80% or more come from south as well in Franco and in German-speaking-jew-nations]
Football/soccer/sports FANATICS are
DUMBER…
Heidegger inside you.
the reason other groups of ‘whites’ assimilated is CULTURE. italians united against oppression because they were already united by a common culture from the old country. and the treatment was bad — lynched second only to blacks. but….still, just like the irish…the jews….now the LATINS…
and unlike…
…
…
blacks.
if you destroy a culture, you destroy a people, and you create slaves.
so, if it is true that the jew comes here to destroy white culture to essentially create goy slaves for himself…
….he is but an instrument of GOD’S JUSTICE….
i strongly encourage that swank be HONEST about his ITALY UBER ALLES ideology.
hakuho is 4-0. he had to quit the january basho and DNC the march…toe injury…
i wanna see afro on an ice floe vs this…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_under_the_Mongol_Empire
and how many times in how many ways have i said…
that…
the italian outside italy is always…what?
a descendants of those who ruled the world for 2,000 years!
and still rule the world…
francis = emperor.
what’re ya gonna do?\
be honest about your INTENT swank.
How can people who believe in sending blacks back to africa, who are the ‘liberals’ of their time, not believe in segregation???
I want a full explanation.
What the Warren Court did was make new law saying people cant be treated by their race differently in any way which is retarded because races are different for many reasons. As man and woman are ‘seperate and equal’ so, Plessy ruled.
This is HILARIOUS. Allen Dulles, CIA head sent by JFK to investigate a 3 civil rights workers disappearing.
Why:
(a) This is something the FBI should be doing
(b) This sounds more like Dulles sent himself to investigate
(c) I think he threatened the people down there to knock off the shenanigans esp when the civil rights bill passes.
This debate is moot anyway. Segregation is de facto true. And the state doesn’t bus blacks into white high schools anymore like they used to. The real problem is affirmative action which is 100% unconstitutional even more than what the Warren court was doing.
President Johnson passing civil rights was probably not his idea. Johnson was basically installed there by Rockefeller and co after they got rid of JFK. Would be interested to hear why the brain trust were so liberal on race relations.
Your hero John Bingham:
“The clause of the fourteenth amendment, ‘no State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States,’ does not, in the opinion of the committee, refer to privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States other than those privileges and immunities embraced in the original text of the Constitution, article four, section two.”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiv
Read article 4 section 2.
These people were only talking about tort and criminal law type affairs. Not bathrooms you moron.
http://www.federalistblog.us/2016/01/john-bingams-best-quotes/
Plessy stands.
Singed John Bingham
These people were only talking about tort and criminal law type affairs. Not bathrooms you moron.
Even accepting that as true (it isn’t)…
what do you think the penalties for violating Jim Crow laws were? And who did you think suffered those penalties?
even by your own assertion plessy doesn’t stand.
Reading the NAACP history in Wiki. I see the names Rabbi Stephen Wise and Jacob Schiff feature.
Schiff funded the communist revolution in Russia.
Stephen wise is a bigot against gentiles. Like his son today. Go on youtube an listen him.
Looks like the NAACP had traditional black leadership in the 90s and spent most of its money fighting sexual harrassment cases of its leader….
Before magically getting lots of money in the earl 2000s’ from ‘corporations’. i.e. jews.
Swank is autistic. He becomes extremely literal when his opponent says english that is against his moral values downloaded from Harvey Weinstein movies…then wags his finger when people argue points using his heroes actions and explicit stated wishes.
Swank thinks the consitution is completely divorced from the people that wrote it, like the 14th simply because it suits him to interpret the words literally as meaning ‘judiasim alles Amerika’
The wit and wisdom of Swanky S Schiff:
Herpy derpy i think well need a time machine to ask what George Washington thinks of native americans everyone! Herpy derpy.
I bet Abe Lincoln wanted transgender bathrooms! Herpy Derpy.
Gosh, Mother Africa bless me I am a sacred spirit in your image!
Blacks shouldnt pay to be black. They should pay to be white!!! Herpy Derpy
Hahahahahaha…and so on, so forth.
Something Swank will never say:
The people that passed the constitution and that passed the 14th did not see blacks as equal to whites in the way Swank pretends to see them.
^^ 100% jews are actually correct when they say this. No issues with rabbi stephen and his son tim here. 100% agree with them on this.
lay off the crack, son….
you’re arguing with the voices in your head…
Judicial power, as contradistinguished from the power of the laws, has no existence. Courts are the mere instruments of the law, and can will nothing. When they are said to exercise a discretion, it is a mere legal discretion, a discretion to be exercised in discerning the course prescribed by law; and, when that is discerned, it is the duty of the court to follow it. Judicial power is never exercised for the purpose of giving effect to the will of the judge, always for the purpose of giving effect to the will of the legislature; or, in other words, to the will of the law.[1]
—john marshall
John ‘I brought Judicial Review INTO EXISTENCE despite no clear authority in the constitution — in a case where I didn’t even HAVE TO do so’ Marshall, huh?
It’s amazing how you KEEP quoting people who have done the OPPOSITE of what they have said.
The frontal lobes are exceedingly important to mental manipulation. They are important to understanding causality and the consequences of one’s actions. Impulse control either inhibits or proceeds with muscle actions. Perception lets them know what is and is not working. Things push back or give way to pressure. This is how we learn what can be done. The way the wires are set up determines how many things we can manipulate. But to control feedback must follow the diagram of the wiring. This allows memory to lean following the pathways of the wires. The pathways allow prioritization in parrel so that I order to know what to do the correct steps are taken to understand the best ways of mental manipulation to generate an outcome. Knowing the boundaries and limits of changing something in the world allows you to shape it how you want to. This means dependencies exist that the control mechanism of the frontal lobes explores to affect the world. To learn to control you need to know how things push back.
So, has this retarded fag fenoopy booked a flight to Paris? You have less than 24 hours left to take my fiancée. What are you waiting for?
You’re still upset? You’re a pussy Afro. Stay in the middle-class environment you were born and raised in.
All wrong. I was born in a Haitian slum and raised in the French aristocracy. I’ve only known the bottom and the top, never been in the middle.
Now put your money where your mouth is. You say you can get my girl in five minutes. She’s in Paris until Saturday morning, she’s one hour away from you right now.
Or maybe you can’t even afford a flight to Paris? That’s gonna be a problem cause she’s an expensive hottie. Not sure your shitty programming job will be enough to satisfy her, because she already makes a lot of money as a lawyer and she couldn’t even see herself with a guy who makes less than herself.
So, before you get your lame ass to Paris today, hit New Bond Street and make sure you get on your best golden boy look. And when she asks you what you do in life, avoid mentioning your programming or any nerdy STEM job, tell her you work in law, finance, real estate or politics. You know, winner stuff.
Of course, that wouldn’t be enough to get her because you don’t look nearly as good as me nor have my winning personality. But at least she’d have enough respect for you to be not too rude to you.
^^^if any of the above were true, afro wouldn’t share it. sad!
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying she’s a gold digger. But a chick of her rank isn’t getting with anyone.
I don’t know, she’s kinda old for me Afro, I prefer younger, non-Jewish girls. Not really the MILF hunter type.
Come on, she’s just 25. And as a Moroccan Jew, she’s almost your co-ethnic, the two of you could speak Arabic together. Sadly, I’m afraid you are running out of time, and she hates to do things in a hurry. But don’t say I didn’t try to help you.
I’m not Moroccan or Jewish, you Dominican Chinese. I guess you’ve never seen Maghrebin despite living in France. Must be that ‘aristocratic’ upbringing of yours.
ಠ_ಠ
law, finance, real estate or politics.
you know, jew stuff.
AND NO OXFORD COMMA!
AFRO IS SUCH A NON-ARISTOCRAT IT’S SAD!
AFRO’S FIANCE IS A HIGH-PAID LAWYER WHO LOVES ARIANA GRANDE?
SO IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE RETARDED AND BE A LAWYER. AT LEAST IN FRANCE.
FRENCH ARISTOCRATS ARE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS CHAVS IN THE GLOBAL SOCIAL HIERARCHY. SAD!
[redacted by pp, may 18, 2018]
LMAO! I’m married to a Maghrebi, and I’ve been regularly vacationing to Tunisia and Morocco since childhood. So I’ve probably seen more Maghrebis than you.
”https://twitter.com/JayMan471”
[redacted by pp, May 17, 2018]
first, that misterious study about homossexuality and sheeple. where is**
second, seems many hbdears really believe natural selection works like that:
– i have a trait, if i no pass this, MY trait will not be transmitted to the next generation… le end.
Homossexuality, and DIRECT [masculine] homossexuality can be transmited hereditarily, from parents to kids, if we can say in this words, OR indirectly transmited
OR
COMBINED:
not only homossexuality
not only developmental disorders…
third, humans are basically the same than ”sheeple”** [i’m not talking in figurative way]. Maybe, same traits have different mechanisms in different species.
Fourth, HERDABILITY studies…
”higher heritability mean positive selection”
yesssss
so, why full blown autism and schizophrenia have such higher heritability***
and why pretty higher intelligence, whatever it is, no have**
”herdability” = similarities betwins, at priori, because seems we can analyse similarities among non-twin relatives, isn’t*
Herdability = / = ”heredity”… and what’s matter for natural or whatever-selection is the late.
herdability LOOK like: heredity POTENTIAL between [at priori] relatives or even ”pure-measurement” of given trait…
fifth, if [masculine; direct] homossexuality is basically a ”extended sexually-infected diseases” a type of permanent influenza, so just take the semen of healthy and or non-sexually active homossexuals and look to their state, if ”they are infected”, ok,
[masc dir] homossex is a sexually pathogenic condition where the human or non-human host is manipulated to transmit the parasites in sexual relations AND, possibly, IF a homo have sex with a … ”less-contamined”, he transmit his pathogen via semen.
look like that.
and i have more issues to talk…
Philosophers song
Mugabe
The one who thinks he is Gods gift to women.
https://youtu.be/umC4RRe3u4Y
I am listening to Jordan Pederson 2017 Personality and its transformation class and it’s really good. The guy is a fantastic teacher :
Intelligence is like picking a lock with tools. The wires in the brain are making multiple adjustments picking many locks at the same time as one interconnected mechanism. This means the wires need to coordinate with each other on each step of the process. Using memory to solve known steps and forming new memories with newly learned patterns. Holding everything in mind all the steps. Making combinations of perceptions to create something new. This is back-engineering by feedback. Internal feedback is Introversion. Association is how memory creates insight without steps. But the same pathways are used.
What is the reading level of the book “The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil”? I read it when I was 17.
Does Bill Gates have any opinion that isn’t the same as the NYT? Hahahaha.
(((NYT))) wistfully commenting on the lack of refugees in america.
“The government stopped the flow by building a steel barrier along the border and by making life for the migrants in Israel increasingly uncertain and uncomfortable. Few asylum seekers have received refugee status. Government ministers routinely call them “infiltrators” and economic migrants who threaten Israel’s future as a Jewish state.
At least 20,000 have left Israel, and Mr. Netanyahu said he had made it his mission to deport the rest.
But when the Israeli government announced the plane ticket-or-prison policy three months ago, it caused a popular outcry, with many Israelis arguing that forced deportation contradicted Jewish values. Newspapers filled with petitions signed by Israeli doctors, pilots, rabbis, musicians and Holocaust survivors, all opposing the policy.
Stickers appeared in pubs, cafes and other establishments saying, “This business opposes the expulsion of asylum seekers,” and citing biblical verses like Leviticus 19:34: “The stranger who resides among you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”
– NYT talking about Israel’s famous openness to open borders.
muggy can’t see how anti-STATE-enforced segregation is consistent with closed borders.
Aaron Schlossberg is somewhat of a paesano I guess who was caught going off…
“My guess is they’re not documented, so my next call is to ICE to have each one of them kicked out of my country,” he said. “If they have the balls to come here and live off my money — I pay for their welfare. I pay for their ability to be here. The least they can do — the least they can do — is speak English.”
it’s…
…about…
…THE MONEY.
i’ve never said anything like this, nor would I…but I can see the logic.
Bentham made a sharp distinction between the following types of people:
Expositors – those who explained what the law in practice was; and
Censors – those who criticised the law in practice and compared it to their notions of what it ought to be.
The philosophy of law, considered strictly, was to explain the real laws of the expositors, rather than the criticisms of the censors.
Bentham was also noted for calling natural law “nonsense upon stilts.”
Bentham was the first person to aggressively advocate for the codification of all of the common law into a coherent set of statutes; he was actually the person who coined the verb “to codify” to refer to the process of drafting a legal code.[50]
Bentham was good at understanding as/is. He was bad at understanding what works and why it works.
Natural law may or may not be ‘nonsense upon stilts,’ but it is/was persuasive, which means it has yuge value.
And Bentham failed to understand that his own personal “utilitarianism” was as arbitrary as “natural law.” He only valued it to the same extent everyone else valued natural law — it was more persuasive…to him. Why? Because at around that time, ideology was changing. Natural law was very good in an era dominated by religious ideology…less so in a more ‘secular’ (HEAVY QUOTATIONS) era.
I mean, “the great happiness principle” was his guiding light.
He unknowingly gave natural law another name.
Most importantly, regarding Bentham:
When the American colonies published their Declaration of Independence in July 1776, the British government did not issue any official response but instead secretly commissioned London lawyer and pamphleteer John Lind to publish a rebuttal.[13] His 130-page tract was distributed in the colonies and contained an essay titled “Short Review of the Declaration” written by Bentham, a friend of Lind, which attacked and mocked the Americans’ political philosophy
Bentham’s ideas on government are not what Americans at the founding agreed with. They agreed with Blackstone:
“Good and wise men, in all ages…have supposed, that the deity, from the relations, we stand in, to himself and to each other, has constituted an eternal and immutable law, which is, indispensably, obligatory upon all mankind, prior to any human institution whatever.
“This is what is called the law of nature, which, being coeval with mankind, and dictated by God himself, is, of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries at all times. No human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid, derive all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original.”
The Founders grounded the Constitution on ‘natural law.’ The Constitution does not grant rights, according to ORIGINAL INTENT, but protects inalienable, NATURAL, rights.
So I guess the United States of America is nonsense on stilts.
I’m sure we could both stipulate to that, muggy.
Bentham’s ambition in life was to create a “Pannomion”, a complete utilitarian code of law
And you call ME autistic…
Youre such a moron its unbelievable.
And why should the constitution be based on natural law?
Because of the founders intent.
Ergo, original intent is always supreme.
The founders wrote aspects of law based on what they conceived to be natural law. ‘Natural law’ could be replaceable with the term ‘ham sandwich’, and it would still be founders intent that matters to anyone that wants to follow the constitution.
I bet George Washington could have personally raped and killed numerous native americans and Swank would still say Washington thought all men were equal under God hahahah.
YES. THE ABOVE IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF YOUR AUTISM.
THE CONSTITUTION IS SUPER-EROGATORY IF ONE BELIEVES IN “NATURAL LAW”…
AND THAT JUDGES ARE PRIVY TO IT.
but bentham should have called it “judicial megalomania” rather than “nonsense upon stilts”. that is, it is utter bosh and those who believe in it are thus either stupid or corrupt or corrupted by their hunger for power.
no, asshat, the point is that blackstone’s thoughts on jurisprudence are the ones that matter for American jurisprudence, not bentham’s, if you are all about ‘original intent.’
and if natural law is the guiding principle underlying the constitution, that necessarily means conceptions of fairness and justice MUST enter into a judge’s ruling — according to ‘original intent.’
so THEN George Washington’s personal failings as a man WOULD BE IRRELEVANT to how to interpret the constitution as applied to human beings.
but as we have seen…
you don’t care about the constitution or original intent or any of that…
so i don’t know why you keep up this facade…
just kidding i do….
one must believe judges are ‘privy’ to natural law via reason if they are adopt a natural law jurisprudence, the one that the constitution was originally intended to be based on.
and i think you mean the bill of rights is super-erogatory if one believes in natural law….
and hey, maybe it’s ‘utter bosh,’ but it’s the original intent!
which means judges MUST utilize their personal discretion and check to ensure that the results are FAIR and JUST….
Youre autistic. These people signed the bill of rights and then had slaves personally and mowed down native americans and took their land, and then you autistically and stubbornly cling for dear life to the notion they believed in this abstraction and that we can now use the abstraction to make law, more than what they actually intended when writing the law. The autism is unreal.
As I said, Swank would rather set himself on fire than admit to me that the people that wrote the constitution did NOT mean literally blacks are the exact same as whites. You are eye wateringly autistic, you would rather hold your knees, curl up into a ball and repeat “all men are equal”.
“so THEN George Washington’s personal failings as a man WOULD BE IRRELEVANT to how to interpret the constitution as applied to human beings”
YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED. Who do you think writes these documents? What do you think these people fought for? Are you serious?!! They dont fall out of the sky swanky!!!!
the only thing I’m ‘clinging to’ is that the law boils down to (1) arguments that people can be (2) persuaded of. everything else is just people posturing…
you’re not even wrong about my position.
you’re just arguing against some SJW phantom in your head.
I don’t consider Peterson to be that clever but it’s fun watching him destroy people even dumber on TV.
Those videos are very différents . Because it’s a course . There is a pedagogical goal spread into 20 lectures . So he has his idiosyncratic attitude, but the content is different and … much better. In those videos, he is more up to his IQ level (I believe 150 verbal and 130 math, he is quite good at guessing quickly figures) .
Bruno, you can barely speak English but you use big words I don’t understand, like idiosyncratic. You should put your priorities in the right place. I agree with your point however.
Fenuck’s new favorite ”argument”…
well, seems you have no-so-good vocabulary size.