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This week I will blog about the GRE and maybe sex differences in IQ (per commenter Marry) but today, like every Sunday, is open thread day.
In honor of Mother’s Day, I want to mention a BEAUTIFUL interview I heard on CBC radio with indigenous writer Terese Marie Mailhot. You can listen to the whole thing here. The interview opens with Mailhot reading a gut-wrenching scene (from her memoir?) where she’s having breakfast with her white boyfriend.
Mailhot wants to eat both a proper breakfast with eggs and toast and another breakfast with French toast and syrup, but the white boyfriend is having none of it. So she orders only the proper breakfast with toast.
But the toast doesn’t come.
She complains to the waitress and the toast comes cold.
She complains again and now her breakfast is cold.
Her white boyfriend looks at her with disgust.
Mailhot also talks about her childhood. She understands why so many indigenous girls keep going missing because growing up in an indigenous community, there were always random men offering her drives to school. They looked perfectly normal, until you looked in their eyes….
Switching gears, I watched a talk by Yuval Noah Harari.
He makes the point that what makes humans superior is not our intelligence per se, but our ability to cooperate. He notes than one on one, we’re no better than a chimp. Indeed if he was placed on a deserted island with a chimp, he suspects the chimp would win. But if you placed a hundred men against hundred chimp, then men would win because we can cooperate and they can’t.
For those of us who romanticize the idea of the superior individual, this was a hard pill to swallow.
But I think humans are superior to chimps even on the individual level, if given enough time. The chimp might dominate the man for the first few decades, but if both individuals could live for centuries, the man would eventually figure out how to build a cage and put the chimp in it. Perhaps collectivism and culture achieve what one individual life doesn’t have time to do.
The 21st century technology we enjoy today is the cumulative collective result of the 107 billion humans to have ever walked the Earth.
Could a single stone age man living all alone on Earth have eventually achieved 21st century technology all by himself, if he lived 107 billion times as long as the average man? By contrast, a lone chimp living the same amount of time, would never get beyond the stone age.
Pumpkin Person 
The mind folding back into itself
[video redacted by pp, per ethical concerns from Mug of Pee, May 14, 2018]
Just so bad….
I know right…
I just want everyone to know that when no one would come to my birthday party philosophers mom made him come. (A true friend.)
You should complain to the health board, or the hospital administrator that youre psychiatrist is totally incompetent for not diagnosing you with aspergers. I’ve never seen a more obvious example.
He’s more socially intelligent than you. You couldn’t even tell Trump was pro-Jew. That’s how disabled you are
physical and mental discoordination.
my speech does not go with my mannerisms, uncoordinated thoughts.
I am not smooth in how I conduct my thoughts and actions.
Philosopher is right once again but not cognizant enough to explain why.
Which is why I did not believe him. I just explained the “why”.
”He’s more socially intelligent than you. You couldn’t even tell Trump was pro-Jew. That’s how disabled you are”
You’re very triggered PP, just because he don’t believe in this alt-lies [marranos]*
Iluminatikitty is trying harder become relevant here by a good reputation, but he’s falling…
You look like little bit a character Phillip J. Fry from Futurama.
Santo your environment on pumpkins blog is a victim of the way you talk.
I have always had a good reputation.
Not just been trying recently but from day one.
I have dedication.
PP likes roasting Cat, but when Cat is roasted PP rushes to roast the aggressor like a big brother, how touching.
Seriously though, Cat you have no sense of inhibition. Why do you post these things, along with the anime videos, knowing you’ll make yourself look stupid?
I mean I like hentai as much as the next person, but there’s a time and place.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
passive agressive mode
meaw…
Kitty, I remember your score on Simon Baron Cohen test were not very high ? I thought this test was a bit dumb but after testing it with many people and doing stat and cross checking with people formally diagnosed with HFAutism or Asperger or PDA, I believe it’s very effective .
Control group score 16 with only 2% above 32 and no one above 40.
Artists score on average 37 with 80% above 32, 25% above 40 and 15% above 45.
People with whom I have spoken above 45 – some with very high IQ – have anxiety problems that sometimes they have to stop walking in the street and be prostrated during one hour (like a rape victim in movies ) for no reason.
My score is 47 ! But I don’t have any of that anxiety problem . I am glad that whatever I have is not such a handicap .
Whatever you are, it’s not a shame to be autistic .
Bruno, if the test is asking about the same traits psychologists ask about when diagnosing autism, the correlation is not all that interesting. The psychologists are more or less using the same type of test to diagnose people, so it’s hardly independent confirmation.
My Corrector on my iPhone is a big Pb ! Not « artists » but « autists » score 37 out of 50 on Baron Cohen test .
Simon Baron Cohen test
This is what I got Aug 11, 2017
72% empathizing
33% systematizing
(18 + 14 + 14 + 45)/(9 + 9 + 39)
1.59 = (91)/(57)
Is autism was IQ my IQ would be 159
Kitty, it is the one : https://psychology-tools.com/autism-spectrum-quotient/
Pumpkin, yes I know we spoke about it. The correlation is between the test and a formal diagnosis by a phyIcian. It doesn’t validate anything about the reality of autism nor the consistance of the diagnosis.
But it gives a person who lacks a formal diagnosis by a doctor the benefit of a quasi-formal diagnosis without the hurdle to go through it (and without the risk in some countries to be reported in some government/police files). It’s useful because in some fora, if you re not formally diagnosed, you are considered a joke.
So if you above 32 kitty, you know that a doctor would – in 75% probability – say you are on the spectrum. If you are above 40, it is almost certain(95%) he would say that.
Bruno, I got
21 out of a possible 50
From what I can tell the now call Aspergers
social pragmatic communication disorder
That’s why I said Philosopher cannot tell the difference between a Neurotic Disorder and Autism. Because my social development is not impaired. It is only my neurotic stuckness that keeps me from being fluid and keeping my thoughts straight. Has he not seen a person having a nervous breakdown before how they are incoherent. I feel that way all the time. I adjust myself to deal with people because of feeling like having nervous breakdowns but I understand people, unlike an Autistic person.
ASD has no construct or biological validity.
asymmetrical motor function
For coordination to be off the brain must be wired unsymmetrically. That’s why my brain feels stuck and tangled all the time. Without symmetry, everything is uncoordinated such as thoughts.
Its hard to get it all working together but there are different asymmetries, different ways to be stuck. Not every high functioning autist is the same, they each have a different asymmetry. So one will not have the problem of another.
I get stuck, but not always.
I can detect open and closed minded people.
I can detect personality and emotional temporment.
Intelligence to some degree.
reactivity, receptiveness.
I know what a person is like by how I can be around them. I don’t lack people intelligence. But what I want is to be around people as “aware” as I am.
That’s not a very high score. 75% of people above 32 are autistics. 80% of autistic are above 32. And a maximum of 2% of students score above 32. And it’s around of 1% for non professional workers.
So my guess that your chances of being on the autism spectrum as diagnosed by physician are quite low. I would say less than 10% !
still not taken down.
[redacted by pp, may 14, 2018]
So I’m that bad that people will just hate on me?
Because some people just hate autistic people.
Bullying would be a problem then.
I just made a sucky video.
I meant to convey my ideas.
I guess didn’t do that too well.
I guess I am seen as a misfortunate.
I make my videos because it feels easier than text as a means of expression.
Guess I’m not allowed to post videos of myself anymore.
I had some good thoughts.
Did pumpkin see the whole video?
Your speech is almost as bad as RR’s. Arguably worse. I’d suggest working on copying good speakers on YouTube. Maybe one of those snake-oil salesmen making self-help guides and selling them to suckers.
“Maybe one of those snake-oil salesmen making self-help guides and selling them to suckers.”
e..g Oprah.
don;t blame me cat. i’m an indigenous canadian woman.
no blame
just confused
I have Aspergers so the ethical problem is somehow I could be taken advantage of or harmed? pumpkin could be seen as a bad actor or facilitator of using a disadvantaged person for gain? That would be unethical. Is that it?
Cat you’re on the right track which shows you’re much more socially intelligent than philosopher realizes. It’s unethical to allow you to post videos that make you a laughing stock.
Being a sensitive person, making myself looking bad would make people treat me unkindly as I would be discouraged. I wanted to communicate my ideas not my awkwardness so that when people think of you as abnormal they see no reason to treat you normal and that can make a sensitive person feel sad. Not to be acknowledged for your genuine thoughts but only seen for your condition that people think is weird.
“Your speech is almost as bad as RR’s. Arguably worse.”
Haha.
It’s not a condition. You can easily practice speaking fluidly. Try writing your thoughts down on paper, then reading the paper as opposed to trying to think of things on the fly.
“Haha.”
I like many of the points you make, but factually (from what I’ve seen so far) your speech is shit.
What were the ethical concerns? It’s good that Mugabe is concerned for Animekitty. Animekitty is becoming increasingly fragile.
My video was about the mechanism of mental manipulation.
And how internalization leads to consciousness.
I have a whole set of ideas how computers can be actively intelligent.
The front of the brain’s job is impulse control and selective attention. Because of my anxiety, my brains frontal lobes were working too hard. Doing normal things burned me out. Everything took effort not to have a nervous breakdown. Impulse control allows the brain to self-organize. It allows you to see and hear more. and have more fluid motor control. With attention, detached observation allows enhanced perception. The process is controlled distraction does not interfere with growing new connections for perception. Motor control learns balance faster again correcting for interference. When under stress interference cannot be canceled out as noise and so perception and balance cannot develop with connection growth. The faster the frontal lobes cancels noise the faster one learns and becomes smarter.
a jew jewing on nixon’s jursiprudence.
[on what he means by “orignal intent”] If the framers of the Constitution used vague language, as they did when they condemned violations of “due process of law,” then what they “said” or “meant” is limited to the instances of official action that they had in mind as violations, or, at least, to those instances that they would have thought were violations if they had had them in mind [including those they would think of as violations TODAY that they could not have imagined before AND including those instances which they had in mind or would have in mind as NOT violations]…But the theory of meaning on which this argument depends is far too crude; it ignores a distinction that philosophers have made but lawyers have not yet appreciated [a distinction which he doesn’t understand. he is trying to make the extension vs intension distinction but doesn’t. sad!]…I stand ready to admit that some particular act I had thought was fair when I spoke was in fact unfair, or vice versa, if one of my children is able to convince me of that later [only by new FACTS, not by new principles]; in that case I should want to say that my instructions covered the case he cited, not that I had changed my instructions. I might say that I meant the family to be guided by the concept of fairness, not by any specific conception of fairness I might have had in mind where does he think concepts reside? how is it possible to distinguish “a conception” from “the concept”? he has no answer. he can’t think. he can only jew.. That is not the same thing, of course, as granting them a discretion to act as they like; it sets a standard what standard? which they must try—and may fail—to meet, because it assumes that one conception is superior to another [concepts don’t exist in themselves outside the mind. he’s making the common mistake of confusing words with things. or he’s just jewing. all “conceptions” which are consistent with the original “conception” are superior to those which aren’t.]…The man who appeals to the concept in this way may have his own conception, as I did when I told my children to act fairly; but he holds this conception only as his own theory of how the standard he set must be met, so that when he changes his theory he has not changed that standard he uses “standard” in place of “concept” and thinks he’s profound. or he’s just jewing. …When I appeal to the concept of fairness I appeal to what fairness means, and I give my views on that issue no special standing.JIVE! THE MEANING IS THE USE! WORDS HAVE NO MEANING THEY ARE NOT GIVEN BY THOSE WHO USE THEM. THERE IS ZERO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN “CONCEPTION”, “CONCEPT”, AND “STANDARD” AS USED ABOVE. MAKING DISTINCTIONS WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE IS VERY VERY JEWY.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1972/05/04/a-special-supplement-the-jurisprudence-of-richard-/
only by new FACTS, not by new principles]
principles can’t be refuted by new logical implications? What about narratives (do you think narratives are the same as facts)?
Freedom of speech represented, originally, freedom of speech that is “true.”
What new concrete facts changed the principle?
Freedom of speech represented, originally, freedom of speech that is “true.”
not libelous? wtf are you talking about?
The Alien and Sedition Acts IIRC allowed ‘truth’ as a defense, which was a major break from English law concerning speech critical of the government.
principles can’t be refuted by new logical implications?
arguments can be shown to be invalid, and i thought of putting that in there, but showing that an argument which was accepted in the past is and always was invalid is a FACT.
but i doubt this EVER actually happens. lawyers are not trained in proving theorems.
but showing that an argument which was accepted in the past is and always was invalid is a FACT.
what if new principles arise that lead to different interactions with the old principles? are the new principles facts?
How do you know she didn’t just make up the story? Wheres the evidence that actually happened?
Swanky doesn’t know why the law was created in the first place. It fell out of the sky and is now like a football people can use to score goals. All that matters is that you sign good footballers to kick it around the place or bribe the ref or something.
Thats exactly how the the supreme court and judicial system of every country came about.It has nothing do do with the political intent of the people living in the country.
Does it never occur to Swank that in the same way most corporate governance law is irrelevant to papua new guinea, so it is the case that corporate governance law is therefore a property of advanced (and mainly) white societies and not something that exists abstractly. Look at how east asians countries treat corporate governance.
There original intent of corporate governance law is pretty easy to discern for someone that wants to see it. For a a CEO doing embezzlement or his jewish lawyer. corporate governance is something ‘we have no idea why it happened’.
Same with the constitution.
Plessy stands. There is no argument you can make that the founders, or even the majority of people living in America at that time, wanted to send their kids to school with blacks.
THE FACT THAT IS HAPPENS NOW DE FACTO DUE TO GHETTOISATION IS PROOF EMPIRICALLY OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
This is called ‘white flight’ in jewish magazines and movies.
So stupid.
the first half is definitely at odds with everything I have said, so pay closer attention…
that’s true, the only argument I ever made about Plessy was from the 14th amendment and the fact that the Court had previously rejected an identical argument in the context of transportation before Plessy, which also concerned transportation.
we don’t live in a democracy. no one with any sense enjoys or likes the idea of pure democracy.
It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers, but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part. Different interests necessarily exist in different classes of citizens. If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure.
i wonder if de jure desegregation in the south actually led to greater de facto segregation.
people like swank don’t appreciate that denying people the right to segregate themselves is a denial of their liberty. but swank thinks it’s ok to kill racists, so he doesn’t care. people have been conditioned to deny that they are racists yet they still segregate themselves.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/08/29/report-public-schools-more-segregated-now-than-40-years-ago/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.66fc94c33cda
people like swank think this is just because of evil racists and with re-education camps and hate speech laws people will be perfectly homogenized.
they aren’t being denied the right to ‘segregate themselves,’ they’re being denied the right to use the coercive apparatus of the State which is paid for in part by the oppressed to ‘segregate themselves.’
muggy thinks a nigger should be forced to pay an institution to tell him he is a nigger.
Which is why Jim Crow and Apartheid were garbage but a lot of white nationalists will never appreciate that.
it’s vanity if you think about it. as if anyone gives a shit about Dangle Joe and Scooter Steve stayin’ away from coons. just don’t use the state to do it.
and if people are so naturally inclined to segregate, why do you need the State’s help to accomplish nature’s will? why do you need to coerce others to do the same? do 100% of the same-raced public feel as though you do? how is this consistent with freedom of association and free speech? how can someone see that a ‘denial of a right to segregate’ is in reality a denial of a right to even choose whether to segregate, in the case of violence-backed State-sanctioned segregation? hmmm….
https://i1.wp.com/carolcassara.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/church_lady_could_it_be_satan.jpg?resize=400%2C400
Such a moron. The state wasn’t enforcing segregation. If you a female football player and want to play with the men is that ‘segregation’.
If a black student wanted to attend a white school all else equal, why would he do that?
Answer: he didnt want to study with black students.
Obvious.
The whole problem is that black students are different to white students, not the ‘government’. Such a joke. Go online to the teacher forum where they talk about their students. Even BLACK teachers will say the truth if they have to put up with it everyday.
if you cut off the part of the link after the “jpg/png/jpeg” then your image will show up.
Phil doesn’t understand what de jure means, apparently.
And how that has nothing to do with whether black and white students are different.
Phil also believes it is just to force a nigger to pay to be called a nigger. Phil down at understand that he does not live in a democracy and that in a Republic, according to the Founders, minority rights are paramount.
In a real democracy Phil would be eaten alive….but Ronnie is gon Ronnie.
So dumb. Let me make it really simple. Segregation happened before. Segregation happened after. All that changed was now the government started busing blacks into white schools to ‘end it’. Look how that turned out.
and yet you still don’t seem to understand what de jure means and how that whether ‘segregation’ in society happened before or after isn’t the point.
Ok, a referee in the Juventus Inter match interperets the law very harshly against Inter and red cards their player in the 20th minutes.
For the rest of the game Mirajelm Pjanic does a bruce lee impression on people on the pitch and the ref refuses to send him off.
This is the crux: Swanky believes the referee should do whatever he wants as long as he can explain it (and get away with it). And I think the people that made the laws of football, FIFA, no matter how corrupt or dumb or ridiculous, clearly had an intention in introducing a yellow card and red card system and the referee is bent.
These judges are bent.
Why can’t you just say it?!
24/7 surveillance is a joke. Read the 4th amendment. There is 0% chance that any one of the people that signed the bill of rights if asked should a giant machine in arizone monitor all citizens communications, they would agree.
They had the post office in their time. Was there ever any law allowing oficials to open letters at the post office of random people ‘in case’ they were british spies?!
SO FUCKIN DUMB.
Read the 4th amendment. There is 0% chance that any one of the people that signed the bill of rights if asked should a giant machine in arizone monitor all citizens communications, they would agree.
“a Detection of our secret & most dangerous Enemies, with innumerable other Advantages would result from the Interception of their Correspondence with England at this Juncture. I have therefore thought proper to propose to you the seizing the Mail by the next Packet: She is hourly expected from England—her Force of Men & Guns inconsiderable; none but Swivels & only mann’d with 18 Men. If the Vessel proposed to go to Bermudas should cruize for a few Days off Sandy Hook I have no Doubt she would fall in with her. In which Case she might with little or no Delay land the Mail in order to be forwarded & proceed on her Voyage”
George ‘It’s all my Mail’ Washington
Following the adoption of the Constitution, Washington and Madison led the fight in 1790 to create a secret service fund which would be exempt from the norms of congressional oversight. Additionally, Presidents Washington, Jefferson, and Madison withheld information from the people’s representatives when they believed this was in the national interest. As Washington observed when he invoked executive privilege during the debate over the Jay Treaty in 1795, “success must often depend on secrecy.”
Jefferson echoed Washington’s sentiments when he noted that “all nations have found it necessary, that for the advantageous conduct of their affairs” certain secrets should “remain known to their executive functionary only.” Jefferson also added on another occasion that the Senate “is not supposed by the Constitution to be acquainted with the concerns of the executive department.” If Jefferson saw a limited role for the Senate, he saw even less of a role for the House. Jefferson’s conception of executive power would have undoubtedly inflamed Congressman Amash, especially when he noted that “on great occasions every good officer must be ready to risk himself in going beyond the strict line of the law” if necessity so required.
Madison authorized the expenditure of $50,000 from the secret service fund in 1812 (spending the entirety of that fund) to purchase letters written to and from various New England Federalists that allegedly revealed treasonous links with Great Britain. The letters were in the possession of a British spy and were purchased by Madison and Secretary of States James Monroe, who presented them to Congress in an attempt to fuel the war fever and discredit the president’s Federalist opponents, all of whom were American citizens.
^^^autism^^^
pill’s statement can be paraphrased as:
if the framers would laugh when informed of a certain decision, then that decision was wrong.
and you have a time machine to gather that data and present the decision-as-a-routine to an audience of all the founders, right? you sure YOU aren’t jewish?
In this case Washington is talking about a certain vessel purported to be carrying enemy comms and Madison is buying purported letters of the enemy from a spy. Nobody is busting down random post offices and searching mail ‘in case’ spies live there. You seem to never be able to tell the difference in the degree of something happening.
You seem incapable of obvious extension.
I could cite more examples but you’ve bought into the myth….which is a good thing. Judge made, of course.
AND the founders assumed that judges wouldn’t be like swank.
given that swank’s garlic eating people weren’t in the US at the time, they might’ve been right.
btw, as with Heller i think Citizens United might’ve been the correct decision. scalia’s opinion was horrible, but the decision may have been correct for other reasons. i’ll have to read kennedy’s opinion, but…
it may be souter was “forced” to retire after he wrote his dissent in Citizens said what he really thought about the conservative justices and roberts in particular.
roberts may have ordered the case re-argued to save face, his own reputation. if true this proves roberts is EVIL.
the correct response to the protesters was to stand up and say, “i hear you. i invite you to discuss the case in my chambers.” but all of the justices are social climbing autists so none did this, not even scalia.
AND the founders assumed that judges wouldn’t be like swank.
…writing legal arguments that were persuasive to the governed and the governors alike?
As I said a few weeks ago. The law is now a joke. I would be a shit lawyer. Not because I couldn’t turn water into wine with verbiage, but because I don’t even believe in most of the ‘law’ these judges are marking after being brainwashed in college.
Moses got his 10 commandments from god. Does anyone in judaism or does anyone in Christianity debate the ‘original intent’ of the 10 commandments. In some cases yes.
But nobody goes from ‘thou shalt not kill’ to its exact opposite – thou shall only kill certain people you don’t like but can explain why you don’t like them.
So the priests, if they’re doing their jobs, should say – no, you are not allowed to kill. The priests shouldn’t be jewing out and saying, but yes, racism is MORE evil than committing murder, so murdering racists is fine, or some other non sequitur argument.
^^ This is an exact analogy to plessy.
AN EXACT ANALOGY.
Read it again if you need to.
But nobody goes from ‘thou shalt not kill’ to its exact opposite – thou shall only kill certain people you don’t like but can explain why you don’t like them.
It’s already happened…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_war_theory
You are so a Ronnie.
You can’t tell the difference between me going out of the house and running over someone in my car on purpose, with a country declaring war and sending me to fight israel’s enemies?
Both are equally dumb I grant you. But one has much more legitimacy.
yes. the difference is that the latter has a huge rhetorical apparatus supporting it that has been woven directly into our cultural framework to such an extent that the difference seems ‘obvious’ to you…i.e. ‘has much more legitimacy.’
now i’m thinking swank IS autistic.
the “one” to which pill was referring was running over someone.
if true, then phil is wrong per the definition of ‘legitimacy.’
In religion what Martin Luther did to the catholic church – i.e. reaffirming the ‘constitution’ or the Bible in primacy to the ‘judges’ i.e. papacy was considered apostasy.
In reality, Martin Luther was being more christian than the medici pope or whoever else bribed their way to the ‘judges’ bench.
In Swankyland, Martin Luther is arguing nonsense because the religion is made up anyway.
But thats not the point swanky….
If you call yourself a christian, you follow a code and most people of that time did. Just like most people follow ‘democracy’ and recognise the primacy of the law and choose to live under it. Even though its ‘made up’.
I rest my case.
Google who martin luther is if you dont know.
I agree with Herzl and Foucault thats its made up. But that doesnt mean its ‘anything you want it to be’.
it’s anything that you can persuade others to follow.
that alone puts hard and fast rules on what is and is not allowed.
persuading people of lies is EVIL.
for it to be a lie in the moral sense (rather than the ‘this is untrue’ sense that I usually mean it) one must have an intent to deceive.
they’re all lies in the first sense because all models are wrong.
it is IMPOSSIBLE to persuade non-retards of any interpretation which is not consistent with original intent.
you are currently persuaded by an interpretation of an amendment that is NOT consistent with original intent (you say it’s a matter of extension in one case, but that’s not the case I’m referring to) in that social/technological/Congressional/whatever change can have any effect on the meaning of a constitutional amendment. If you believe the original intent of the Constitution is as the supreme law of the land, then this interpretation is contra the Constitution’s original intent and you believe it is THE ruling.
actually, what i said earlier about the liberal arts, etc. is that while they are arbitrary (made up), you are in the Church, so one must learn the rules if one is to win the game…
…so cool, now you are starting to agree with me. it just took you a bit longer to start getting there.
Just like most people follow ‘democracy’ and recognise the primacy of the law and choose to live under it. Even though its ‘made up’.
again, you aren’t even disagreeing with me. although, most people follow ‘democracy’ (because they are ignorant) most people with any influence do NOT follow democracy. because this country is not a democracy.
Just because Christianity is nonsense meant to placate people doesn’t mean there is no such thing as a good christian and a bad christian.
^^ Swank can’t grasp this.
you keep saying concepts I brought up before you did are concepts I can’t grasp. it’s really funny.
the 95 theses were about indulgences which have been abandoned i believe. purgatory itself is also not based in the “constitution”, but there are originalist arguments for transsubstantiation, clerical celibacy, some of the mary crap based on the beginning of luke.
but the mary-olatry and eucharist-needs-a-priest and the communion of the saints and monasticism and idols and crucifixes and the orthodox’s icons are all UN-constitutional.
the admirable thing about the roman and eastern orthodox churches is that they are still one church rather than 1,000 churches.
according the quakers all wars are un-constitutional based on Matthew 5:38-42.
”He makes the point that what makes humans superior is not our intelligence per se, but our ability to cooperate. He notes than one on one, we’re no better than a chimp. Indeed if he was placed on a deserted island with a chimp, he suspects the chimp would win. But if you placed a hundred men against hundred chimp, then men would win because we can cooperate and they can’t.”
Yeah, ants win human boings easily… in this capacity.
Ability to cooperate = intelligence** maybe it’s too*
”We”**
We are not the same (((harari)))… in what conditions*
We, without language, being created by chimp mothers**
”For those of us who romanticize the idea of the superior individual, this was a hard pill to swallow.”
if it was not a placebo…
Sense of self or individuality = self awareness = increased general awareness of reality via human or particular-species sensory scale.
Maybe ”our capacity” [look like a self help teddy] ”to cooperate” it’s due by self-known individuals and not exactly by living beings who are hardly capable to see themselves as TOTAL individuals.
Our ”better” cooperation can be mostly due to increased or enhanced self-awareness and or increased EMPATHY = pay attention to another ones.
”But I think humans are superior to chimps even on the individual level, if given enough time. The chimp might dominate the man for the first few decades, but if both individuals could live for centuries, the man would eventually figure out how to build a cage and put the chimp in it. Perhaps collectivism and culture achieve what one individual life doesn’t have time to do.”
Extrapolating too much with too little.
Maybe what he is also saying but not with that words is that because humans evolved to develop intelligence over physical facilities as agility or strenghtness so cooperation become fundamental for us, instead natural selection building big muscles ”we” evolved to become capable to build tools which replace any physical-natural advantages. Indeed, it’s what culture tend to mean.
Collectivistic culture/personality = strongly related with extreme natural selection which select against phenotypical diversity [=individualization]. It’s maybe explain partly why east asians are so collectivists.
I mean, our personalities are also products of environment and conditions of our ancestrals.. only if you’re a atavistic [often a antagonistic] product or recently evolved..
only if you””’re… which would be a exception.
Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: “I seek God! I seek God!” — As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter.
-Freddy “Not a Cynic” Nietzsche
https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/image-article_inline_full/public/field_blog_entry_teaser_image/2017-09/diogenes.jpg?itok=Lu8AcABw
Dirt 4 for the PS4. Another fantastic game. This is like the golden age of video gaming now I think. Wow. Well done computer programmers. I even have to admit I was impressed when Bill Gates said Age of Empires 4 is going to come and a remaster of AOE 3.
Why can’t Bill Gates make these decisions all the time. Why does he have to ruin it by condemning millions of Europeans to hordes of barbarians? How can someone do so much good and so much evil at the same time?!
Sailer mentioned HBD is like different dog breeds. If you think about it its remarkable the variety of dog breeds there are. I think they prob have evidence of dogs being domesticated going back to ancient eygpt, but in 10,000 years, the variety that has come about it remarkable. This is why I think HBD is technically possible.
I always see a contradiction between people like RR and Phil74 saying ashkenazi jews evolved as a distinct group over 800 years, and then turn around and say distinct groups can’t evolve.
Do they even listen to what they’re saying?
Yeah the breeders equation perdicts alot of change quickly. Dogs have shorter generational time periods than us, and the selection differentail was probably larger for dogs.
Race has a different meaning of jews evolving than what you mean when you say that different groups can evolve, which is why he isnt contradicting himself.
Yes he is. Race ALWAYS contradicts himself. I bet race can’t even spell his name without contradicting himself.
give one example.
“Yeah the breeders equation perdicts alot of change quickly”
It’s never been tested ‘IQ’ but do a search on breeder’s equation IQ “for some laughs…
“Yes he is. Race ALWAYS contradicts himself. I bet race can’t even spell his name without contradicting himself.”
Razze reeeeuhluzt… Right?
“I always see a contradiction between people like RR and Phil74 saying ashkenazi jews evolved as a distinct group over 800 years”
I don’t think I’ve ever said this. Either way, I’ve never claimed that evolution couldn’t occur fast.
I checked the genetic difference between humans and the genetic difference between dogs, genetic difference in humans is much lower, even ten times lower in some instances (to my knowledge) though Negroids are more genetically distant than every other race of human than Mongoloids and Caucasoids are to each other.
Strange how americans have communists sports and europeans have capitalist sport. Was interesting seeing the NFL audience plummet and the NYT explaining that people were actually just catching up on the gardening and it has nothing to do with the kneeling hahaha.
You need brain surgery if you read that paper. I have more respect for fundamentalist muslims. At least the people that take the koran seriously bat for the home team.
I remember about 20 years ago, Sam Huntington or Fukuyama or one of them predicted the next major ideological clash would be between ‘the west’ and ‘islam’.
Actually the major ideological clash of our time is (((gloablism)))/secret Zionism and nationalism.
Main page of NYT today:
Israel kills/injures 2400 palestinian refugees.
Wow.
There is serious divisions between the globalists and the Zionists. Maybe Fenoopy is right.
Idiot! The only division is between pro-Israel like the NYT & fanatically pro-Israel like trump & his master kushner
Pumpkin is trying to out alt right me. I won’t allow it.
She’s nervous, most pro-semetic people tend to react overly emotional when …
Prove that this ”only division” is real or just [again] a fake joooishch internal opposition.
The deal was made by Obama, Obama’s best friends are Iran, Russia and China. Hillary was for more immigration, Trump stopped it. Trump scrapped the deal and is now firmly sucking Israel’s cock.
So, I guess White people have to choose. Suck Israel’s cock for Etho-Nationalism, or be globalized (Communism).
I’m team Hillary, personally. If she had won it would be all over for Israel and White Nationalists.
Don’t be fooled, Hillary is entirely pro-Russia. Check out the Clinton track record.
So what’ll it be, Philo? Take it in the ass from the Jews, or join hands with us sub-humans and accept Neo-Communism and the death of Ethno-Nationalism?
We shouldn’t forget the republican party sans Trumpists is more loathsome than the democreeps.
People like Paul Ryan and Mike Pence should be physically assaulted.
The dems to some extent think whats good for jews is good for humanity. But the repubs are just shills and hacks and paid to say Iran is the devil.
You deport every single jew in the US, government corruption and bribery reduces by 50% guaranteed.
Hsu is wrong about IQ being the most important predictor of lifetime earnings. At least not for extreme cases.
Reality works something like – on average having a high IQ is better, but having a very high IQ is probably a bad thing. Theres a pretty obvious trade off with social intelligence and physical strength.
My sister who is bang average in ‘IQ’, probably a little less than average is more successful than me at this point in my life. It just goes to show that one of the reasons IQ varies so much, is because beyond certain intervals it can be maladaptive or the trade off is too great. In my case, neurosis.
There are low iq people with similar “trade of traits” as well. Is there anyway to validate your rpg like trade of modell. How do high iq machos exist? its more just that extreemes are rare, and that several extreems are rarer. See it as coin flips.
Bonus question: What is afros trade of 🙂
Afro was born without a brain.
what about the “trade of “thing
No trade off for me, I have it all.
indeed. afro has it all except a brain.
i’m a norman aristocrat haitian orphan israel loving pot head with 100 kills in 10 years who thinks the problem with france is french people, working people should NEVER get a raise, and brags about giving to charity yet doesn’t give everything that he has.
anencephaly is bliss.
only someone without a brain could carry so many contradictions in his head at the same time.
Never said working people should never get a raise. Wages shouldn’t be rise as a share of value added and minimum wages should not exist, they disrupt free-market dynamics.
I don’t brag about giving to charity, humanitarianism is a tradition in my family, I was raised a traditionalist Catholic and a Christian Democrat. My father specializes in human rights, he’s one of the most renowned lawyer for high profile asylum seekers, my mother is known as one of Paris’ most gifted fundraisers. They adopted me and my sisters but we were never spoiled, we had to do volunteering and summer jobs to get pocket money. So we know how privileged we are, so we all give to charity in addition to the taxes we pay, and it’s natural.
As for French people, I have nothing but good things to say about them, although we do have an embarrassing and dumb rural and “rust belt” working class segment. But see, as a whole, France was smart enough to elect Macron against Le Pen and carry on as the enlightened country it pretends to be. And if I hated French people, I wouldn’t have put so many French women in my bed.
heidegger was a philosopher…
Wages shouldn’t be rise as a share of value added
wtf does that mean? it varies all the time and has decreased everywhere since 1980.
and minimum wages should not exist, they disrupt free-market dynamics.
afro believes things for which there is zero evidence.
macron is a gay midget rothschild. outside of france this is OBVIOUS to ALL. but the french are the world’s MOST insular people so they don’t see it.
bottom line: afro is INSANE and PATHETIC or he has no brain. one or the other. those are the alternatives.
allegedly people with high IQs do suffer more mental disorders
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289616303324
that seems to conflict with Terman’s research seemingly showing the opposite.
reconciliation may be in the fact that where one’s IQ is above the mean, but not extremely so, relative to one’s peer group, one thrives. Terman had a lot of children of professionals and so those children were likely around smarter children to begin with….
whereas….generally, a high IQ is like any other trait:
society likes…AVERAGE.
past a certain point, deviation in either direction on a trait is a liability for ‘fitting in.’
and as we know…a personality disorder is
enduring pattern of inner experience and behavior that deviates markedly from the expectations of one’s culture, is pervasive and inflexible, has an onset in adolescence or early adulthood, is stable over time, and leads to distress or impairment
“go where you belong…or else.”
it could also be that MENSA people, as a group, are more likely to be high IQ types that are maladjusted to begin with…
“High statistical significance and a remarkably high relative risk ratio of diagnoses for all examined conditions were confirmed among the Mensa group 2015 data when compared to the national average statistics.”
MENSA!
mensa is a club for autists.
I’ve been diagnosed with a personality disorder. Depending on which psych you talk with either schizoid or paranoid. I’ve known since I was 6 or 7 that I was different from the other kids in a bad way.
PDs are real and culture neutral. I am crazy even if you put me on an island with other paranoids.
he might’ve meant best predictor among psychological variables or that having rich parents predicts lifetime earned income not as well as IQ. dumb rich kids have dumb jobs or no jobs.
but the best predictor may still be bad and vary from one locale to another.
but i think it’s clear that educational attainment affects earned income and once one has his foot in the door a higher IQ helps.
“Theres a pretty obvious trade off with social intelligence and physical strength.”
No there isn’t. Life isn’t fair like that. The smartest people tend to also be the tallest, prettiest and most physically fit. That isn’t an opinion either, it’s statistics.
high IQ people are taller, healthier, & prettier, but they’re also skinnier and more likely to wear glasses, and thus nerdy looking.
It’s true, I had a wiry frame [even if I was athletic, I had the body of a sprinter] and wore glasses. These things aren’t genetic though and I grew out of that phase in my late teens. LASEK and a workout and nutrition routine aren’t hard changes to make. I have no doubt RR started the same way as me before he got into fitness. Insofar as genetics go, intelligent people tend to have the advantage [as a trend].
the correlation between attractiveness and IQ may just be an artifact of ‘beautiful’ excluding severely disfigured/deformed/disordered individuals (down syndrome, etc.)
because when we look at a group with a high on average IQ (college profs), the correlation is the opposite.
the notable exception?
philosophy.
VIQ wins.
of course, it may just all be nonsense:
“Theories in both evolutionary and social psychology suggest that a positive correlation should exist between facial attractiveness and general intelligence, and several empirical observations appear to corroborate this expectation. Using highly reliable measures of facial attractiveness and IQ in a large sample of identical and fraternal twins and their siblings, we found no evidence for a phenotypic correlation between these traits.”
https://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(14)00151-2/abstract
Swank good stuff. Was going to cite that paper.
I don’t mean facial attraction though, I mean general attraction. Intelligent people are generally more attractive than unintelligent people. Where intelligent is above 100 IQ, unintelligent is below 100 IQ.
I don’t mean facial attraction though, I mean general attraction.
umm…..
if you mean that the group of people who lack disorders that decrease IQ (which also tend to decrease ‘general attractiveness’) is on average more attractive, sure.
otherwise, ‘general attraction’ seems vague woo-woo.
again, the notion of ‘attractiveness’ that is fixed for all time is also specious. all of the traits we consider to be ‘attractive’ show marked heritability, i.e. genetic variation, which is a strong cut against them having been subject to strong selection. maybe you could argue some have mutation rates that could compensate, like idk eye color or maybe skin color, the others are pleiotropic and polygenic…
I thought the correlation between intelligence and attractiveness was modestly positive, up until a fairly low threshold (around IQ 120), where it began to go in reverse.
This phenomenon might only be true for PIQ, based on the graph above.
Lets make a bet. I bet for the next 14 days, the NYT will feature a magic negro on the main homepage for every single day.
Blacks are sth like 11-15% of the US population AFAIK.
it’s obvious that the cult of diversity is preached by jews for selfish reasons.
but it is not always clear these jews are aware of their own selfish motivations.
as long as people like pill claim conspiracy and people like macdonald claim some abstract evolutionary strategy they will be laughed at.
“Kevin MacDonald argues in The Culture of Critique that Boasian anthropology is one manifestation of a Jewish group evolutionary strategy. It is argued to have contributed to a shift from Darwinism and other biological perspectives as a fundamental paradigm of the social science. Generally, this shift is argued to have developed consequent to the entry of certain Jews to these fields.[1]
Before Boas, the prevalent view was that cultures had evolved in a series of developmental stages. The stages were associated with racial differences and modern European culture was at a high and superior stage. Boasians in various way attacked this view. For example, Boasian anthropology in the 1920s criticized American (European) culture as overly homogeneous, hypocritical, and emotionally and esthetically repressive (especially regarding sexuality). One important part of this campaign was creating ethnographies of exotic cultures which described them as lacking of such negative traits and as models for Europeans to emulate. Possible problems in such cultures were seen as corruptions due to European influence.[1]
One consequence of this was a long term almost complete censorship of and lack of research on warfare and violence among non-European primitive cultures by anthropologists. In reality, studies are argued to have shown that less advanced cultures experience much more violence and warfare than advanced cultures.[1]
^^^
This is not the only field with censorship. Genetics is even WORSE. Even though the subject lends itself to a higher degree of empiricism. Anytime RR quotes a paper saying llamas can work for NASA, I GROAN.
there is no censorship. even HBD isn’t censored.
Jason Richwine received a PhD from Harvard in 2009 for his thesis on Immigration and IQ.
there is no censorship
ONLY a jew could say that.
and a jew who has himself said that the de facto/de jure distinction is meaningless.
jews gonna jew.
next time try to be consistent and less jewish swank.
i didn’t say it was meaningless.
i said de jure = fairy tales, de facto = what matters.
and i said preferring one over the other is incorrect.
I disagree with you on a lot of things but I do agree that papers can be fabricated or lie through omission, RR does put too much faith in papers [especially while there is ruling agenda in the subject of question], though papers or reproducible experiments are really the only way to argue scientific facts. Your method of debate is even less factual than his.
Kevin Macdonald’s “hypothesis” makes no predictions; it explains what it was designed to explain. It’s a just-so story.
You are such an idiot you don’t even know what context to use the word hypothesis in. Macdonald wrote an explanation. Not a suggestion for an experiment you clown.
IMO, if you can’t tell whether the people in Hong Kong or Papua New Guinea are more advanced you need a brain transplant.
Pumpkin if you agree with Bill Gates so much, why aren’t you doing anything to help Mother Africa? I don’t get. If you think he’s ‘morally intelligent’, by implication, that would entail he should be emulated. Even if one is not ‘morally intelligent’, one only has to follow Bill Gates example like a lighthouse on the high seas and copy him.
I said it before and Ill say it again. Im not a hypocrite. When that girl holding the volunteer pack sat beside me on the tube I shook my head, sighed, and moved to the opposite end of the train. I live by my sense of morality. Pumpkin doesn’t live by his.
Trust pumpkin to slobber all over a woman’s book that claims white people were racist to her. This woman might not even be native, and pumpkin wouldn’t know the difference. I bet this woman is jewish.
I saw The Philosophers profile pick in my sleep. Spooky stuff. I like it when he talks about asperger. Its very personal.
Dreaming in my sleep is the most exiting thing in my life, hopefully it wont get to polluted.
I never dream, I appear to teleport from asleep to awake in 1 second.
Of course you dream, you even dream when you’re awake. You dreamed about being 100kg, 8% body fat the other day. You dreamed about turning 20 when you claimed you were 21 before, you dream about looking white when you describe yourself as a Berber-Chinese hybrid.
I’ve posted my picture here before, I’m better looking than you.
You are getting better at playing the aspie. I see you are learning from kitty’s comments.
i wouldnt say im like cat. I would say that both of us share maladaptive modells of behaviour based on our misfortunes and proclivities (as well as not being dominant). I think i could change though.
No, he’s trying to imply you’re a sock-puppet of mine. Lyrion sees me in everything he looks at.
I couldnt stop laughing when I read Lyrions comment. If he continues like this, I’d say hes definitely on the schiz side of the spectrum.
one thing swank can actually make us all wiser on is…
what fraction of the 130 or so cases SCOTUS takes every term involve constitutional matters?
i will stipulate that…
textualism is enough if the law is well written rather than vague.
all laws should be well written.
no judge has the time or enough clerks to be a legal scholar except the supremes.
i’m more than fine with any jurisprudence…in the abstract.
but yes, the circumstances of the law in question do have an impact on which jurisprudence will be most persuasive.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO TELL ME YOU CAN’T READ MORE THAN ONCE.
persuasive to whom swank-tard?
swank worships SATAN.
IF ALL LAWYERS WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE DEGREES IN MATH NONE OF THIS SWANK SATANISM WOULD EXIST.
I GUARANTEE!
plenty of federal administrative law judges have technical degrees…they fuck up like anyone else.
the only use an UG ‘math’ requirement would have is as a sorting mechanism for “smarter” individuals as measured by LSAT scores.
as we know, Eliot Spitzer received a 180 on the LSAT:
“I believe in an evolving Constitution. A flexible Constitution leaves room for us to consider not merely how the world once was, but how it ought to be.”
i had thought that “strict constructionist” meant the same as “originalist”. wikipedia says they’re unrelated, but it seems nixon used them interchangeably.
“strict constructionism” according to wikipedia means giving the narrowest application you can think of. that IS jewish.
but i do think that the judiciary should neuter itself whenever possible, defer to the legislatures.
they were related, once upon a time. but these terms are all relative to the degree of equity/discretion/whatever is allowed to the judge. everything is always changing relative to the narrative.
In Judge Blackmun, it is said, President Nixon has found the “strict constructionist” of the Constitution for which he had been searching.
wtf?
as i said…
henry hill would agree with ME!
it’s just a funny-because-it-was-so-wrong headline: That Justice ‘I want my I want my E-A-B’s’ Blackmun was ever thought of as a strict constructionist, in the modern or then sense, is hilarious.
and obviously the papacy itself is constitutional.
it’s so constitutional that many protestants have claimed the romans put it in there themselves centuries later.
st peter’s basilica is ACTUALLY built directly over the remains of peter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primacy_of_Peter
Many people here or there don’t realize that MAJORITY of human population is on extreme ”conservative” [of any race], but many them, ’cause social domestication, become ”tolerant” OR indifferent with different lifestyles…
^^100% true.
what swank would call a “real” man at work…oh yeah!
What’s funny about IQ-ists is they talk about some useless ‘IQ’ number but hardly—if ever—talk about numbers that truly matter: strength numbers on the main lifts. (Which actually have carryover to real life, unlike some useless ‘IQ’ number.) Weird…
Melo, what do you think of this paper?
http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/8/3/e019438
In conclusion, the available evidence from RCTs does not allow us to conclude that pasta consumed in the context of low-GI dietary patterns has an adverse effect on body weight and adiposity outcomes of importance in the prevention and management of overweight and obesity. On the contrary, pasta in the context of low-GI dietary patterns reduces body weight and BMI compared with higher-GI dietary patterns. The results are generalisable in the context of a high carbohydrate dietary pattern composed of low-GI foods with or without the intention of weight loss in middle-aged individuals who are overweight or obese or have diabetes. Although the clinical significance of the observed weight loss is debatable, this finding increases our confidence that pasta in the context of low-GI dietary patterns does not result in weight gain. Further research is needed to improve our estimates. There is also a need for more randomised trials of >1-year diet duration to clarify whether the lack of harm for pasta in the context of low-GI dietary patterns will translate into meaningful long-term benefits. Other randomised trials should focus on whether pasta will have similar effects in the context of other ‘healthy’ dietary patterns such as a Mediterranean diet.
Here’s some of the COI. It’s incredible…
All authors have completed the Unified Competing Interest form (available on request from the corresponding author) and declare: LC has worked as a clinical research coordinator at Glycaemic Index Laboratories, Toronto, Ontario, Canada. CWCK has received research support from the Advanced Food Materials Network, Agriculture and Agri-Foods Canada (AAFC), Almond Board of California, American Pistachio Growers, Barilla, California Strawberry Commission, Calorie Control Council, Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), Canola Council of Canada, International Nut and Dried Fruit Council, International Tree Nut Council Research and Education Foundation, Loblaw Brands Ltd, Pulse Canada, Saskatchewan Pulse Growers and Unilever. He has received in-kind research support from the Almond Board of California, California Walnut Council, American Peanut Council, Barilla, Unilever, Unico, Primo, Loblaw Companies, Quaker (Pepsico), Pristine Gourmet, Kellogg Canada, WhiteWave Foods. He has received travel support and/or honoraria from the American Peanut Council, American Pistachio Growers, Barilla, Bayer, California Walnut Commission, Canola Council of Canada, General Mills, International Tree Nut Council, Loblaw Brands Ltd, Nutrition Foundation of Italy, Oldways Preservation Trust, Orafti, Paramount Farms, Peanut Institute, Pulse Canada, Sabra Dipping Co., Saskatchewan Pulse Growers, Sun-Maid, Tate & Lyle, Unilever and White Wave Foods. He has served on the scientific advisory board for the International Tree Nut Council, McCormick Science Institute, Oldways Preservation Trust, Paramount Farms and Pulse Canada. He is a member of the International Carbohydrate Quality Consortium (ICQC), Executive Board Member of the Diabetes and Nutrition Study Group (DNSG) of the European Association for the Study of Diabetes (EASD), is on the Clinical Practice Guidelines Expert Committee for Nutrition Therapy of the EASD and is a Director of the Toronto 3D Knowledge Synthesis and Clinical Trials foundation. DJAJ has received research grants from Saskatchewan Pulse Growers, the Agricultural Bioproducts Innovation Program through the Pulse Research Network, the Advanced Foods and Material Network, Loblaw Companies Ltd., Unilever, Barilla, the Almond Board of California, Agriculture and Agri-food Canada, Pulse Canada, Kellogg’s Company, Canada, Quaker Oats, Canada, Procter & Gamble Technical Centre Ltd., Bayer Consumer Care, Springfield, NJ, Pepsi/Quaker, International Nut & Dried Fruit (INC), Soy Foods Association of North America, the Coca-Cola Company (investigator initiated, unrestricted grant), Solae, Haine Celestial, the Sanitarium Company, Orafti, the International Tree Nut Council Nutrition Research and Education Foundation, the Peanut Institute, the Canola and Flax Councils of Canada, the Calorie Control Council (CCC), the CIHR, the Canada Foundation for Innovation and the Ontario Research Fund. He has received in-kind supplies for trial as a research support from the Almond Board of California, Walnut Council of California, American Peanut Council, Barilla, Unilever, Unico, Primo, Loblaw Companies, Quaker (Pepsico), Kellogg Canada, and WhiteWave Foods. He has been on the speaker’s panel, served on the scientific advisory board and/or received travel support and/or honoraria from the Almond Board of California, Canadian Agriculture Policy Institute, Loblaw Companies Ltd, the Griffin Hospital (for the development of the NuVal scoring system, the Coca-Cola Company, EPICURE, Danone, Diet Quality Photo Navigation (DQPN), Better Therapeutics (FareWell), Verywell, True Health Initiative, Institute of Food Technologists (IFT), Saskatchewan Pulse Growers, Sanitarium Company, Orafti, the Almond Board of California, the American Peanut Council, the International Tree Nut Council Nutrition Research and Education Foundation, the Peanut Institute, Herbalife International, Pacific Health Laboratories, Nutritional Fundamental for Health, Barilla, Metagenics, Bayer Consumer Care, Unilever Canada and Netherlands, Solae, Kellogg, Quaker Oats, Procter & Gamble, the Coca-Cola Company, the Griffin Hospital, Abbott Laboratories, the Canola Council of Canada, Dean Foods, the California Strawberry Commission, Haine Celestial, PepsiCo, the Alpro Foundation, Pioneer Hi-Bred International, DuPont Nutrition and Health, Spherix Consulting and WhiteWave Foods, the Advanced Foods and Material Network, the Canola and Flax Councils of Canada, the Nutritional Fundamentals for Health, Agri-Culture and Agri-Food Canada, the Canadian Agri-Food Policy Institute, Pulse Canada, the Saskatchewan Pulse Growers, the Soy Foods Association of North America, the Nutrition Foundation of Italy (NFI), Nutra-Source Diagnostics, the McDougall Program, the Toronto Knowledge Translation Group (St. Michael’s Hospital), the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine, The Hospital for Sick Children, the Canadian Nutrition Society (CNS), the American Society of Nutrition (ASN), Arizona State University, Paolo Sorbini Foundation and the Institute of Nutrition, Metabolism and Diabetes. He received an honorarium from the United States Department of Agriculture to present the 2013 W.O. Atwater Memorial Lecture. He received the 2013 Award for Excellence in Research from the International Nut and Dried Fruit Council. He received funding and travel support from the Canadian Society of Endocrinology and Metabolism to produce mini cases for the Canadian Diabetes Association (CDA). He is a member of the International Carbohydrate Quality Consortium (ICQC).
The list is way longer. They’d let foxes guard a hen house. It’s funny but at the same time it’s not. Because people read the pop headlines and would continue to eat this trash.
What do you think of this new study?
http://www.eneuro.org/content/early/2018/05/14/ENEURO.0038-18.2018
It’s absolutely amazing in my opinion! For the longest time I had suspected that DNA is a possible candidate for the storage of memories, ever since that one study I read showed that propranolol failed to completely wipe out the synaptic connections. t just makes perfect sense when you consider that scientists have been trying to find Engrams for years now. I mean, what is the only mechanism in the body that resembles code or information?: Genes. Now with this latest study, they’ve shown that RNA possibly stores memories through epigenetic changes on the DNA sequence within a cell’s nucleus. Which also in line with literally everything I’ve been saying on the genetic feedback loops produced through experience depedency!
As I said before I don’t really have much of an opinion on the pasta study, but it is counter-intuitive to most of what you’ve said on the detrimental effects a carb filled diet can have on ones body.
When they “transferred” memories right? I just saw that today. It is amazing but I’d be lying to you if I said I fully understood it. I’ll dive in later.
Don’t really have an opinion, I’m not into the dietary stuff. Thanks though.
Out of curiosity, why did you think I’d be interested?
Why not? Something else to discuss.
Check out the long conflicts of interest and see how many companies had a stake in this. The main culprit is Barilla! Weird!!
“-50,000 instagram followers.
You? ”
This in my opinion is the reason Blacks have no successful countries.
General obsession with social status above all else.
Problem with Middle Eastern countries is violence and still is violence. Completely dominant for most of history, but not in today’s world of intellect.
The Iranians are coming back into the spotlight however, where previously their love for science only lead to them being conquered over and over again. Similar story to the Chinese, who were easily conquered by the Mongols who are now irrelevant.
“-50,000 instagram followers.
You? ”
This in my opinion is the reason Blacks have no successful countries.
Haha, I make good advertising money + gifts from my followership.
That wasn’t my point, Afro, my point was general obsession with popularity as a trend. If you learned a useful skill like programming or medical science, you’d be ten times richer than you are now. You don’t really stand a chance against a fit doctor with a house, Mercedes and a million in the bank account.
Not to mention your wife is a mud-shark.
Successful ‘careers’ for Blacks: Rapper, Instagram
Average ‘careers’ for Black: Trying to be a rapper, trying to be Instagram famous, working part-time in Walmart, unemployed
So Afro, when will you release your mix-tape?
LMAO! I’m a lawyer…
I have been staying 5 days in Ireland. English people used the word « Irish » to mean dumb and it’s my impression that most native people here have an IQ around 90, confirming Lynn outrageous evaluation. BUT they are the most organized, diligent, well-to-do, nice and smiling people I have ever seen. Security at airport is the best. Above Japan, Norway or Germany. So they must have other traits – I would say a mix of industriousness, agreability, and happiness – that compensated for IQ.
“it’s my impression that most native people here have an IQ around 90, confirming Lynn outrageous evaluation”
What does 90 IQ look like compared to 85? 95? 100? 105?
It’s difficult to say. But it’s like giving a 3.5 (for 85) or a 5.5 (for 105). You know it but it’s difficult to explain. Or how you feel in a water at 19 or 22. The difference is huge but how to tell.
I ve read this environmentalist paper from 2012 wich seems quite convincing and could have been written by a RR like minded person :
Click to access f20904c35a370534a9d3710453dd6dc7a2d2.pdf
Is there some serious answer from geneticist perspective ?
That paper is pretty good. That’s the most recent review on ‘intelligence’ findings that I’m aware of but it has a few problems.
So you can’t explain the difference?
I think it’s their accent that makes them seem retarded. Similar to the way the French accent makes people seem gay.
Yes. But there is no follow up /rebuttal of this paper 6 years later ?
The differences will change with the context. Take waiters, below 90, they are all sequential. They take one order and come back. They are not able to adress several tables and multi-task. Below 85, they won’t be willing to bring you something – like ketchup – if they are not focus on your order. So IQ in the average zone has a huge impact on the waiter efficiency.
Then, the overall organization , the it system design, the waiter’s other traits – consciousness and agreeableness and how much he likes/hates serving people – will have a huge impact,but g will be a major underlying factor .
I have been staying 5 days in Ireland. English people used the word « Irish » to mean dumb and it’s my impression that most native people here have an IQ around 90, confirming Lynn outrageous evaluation. BUT they are the most organized, diligent, well-to-do, nice and smiling people I have ever seen. Security at airport is the best. Above Japan, Norway or Germany. So they must have other traits – I would say a mix of industriousness, agreability, and happiness – that compensate for IQ.
The Yuval Harari part suggests the defining feature of humanx even more so than intelligence, is our ability for cooperation. And this cooperation ability may have a good deal to do with why some groups succeed and others dont. Although behavioral genetics gives the impression of humans as isolated autonomous beings without influence from our environments..
And what’s the point of the anecdote with the indigenous writer? Why couldn’t she get her toast? Why was her boyfriend disgusted? Why was this story worth relating????😂
Why couldn’t she get her toast?
Racism
Why was her boyfriend disgusted?
Racism
Why was this story worth relating????
So you can get a sense of the crap indigenous women have to go through, even in situations as simple as ordering toast
i used to be an indigenous woman before i transitioned.
So SAD!
THE original intent. the bottom line. the end of the story. the gavel strike of the Republic is…
on a candid examination of history, we shall find that turbulence, violence, and abuse of power, by the majority trampling on the rights of the minority, have produced factions and commotions, which, in republics, have, more frequently than any other cause, produced despotism. If we go over the whole history of ancient and modern republics, we shall find their destruction to have generally resulted from those causes.
James ‘Proto-Jew’ Madison
a key function of the federal republican government therefore is to protect those the political process via majority rule CANNOT protect.
sometimes it’s the executive.
sometimes it’s the executive.
and sometimes it is the judiciary.
who has the stones to honor the ORIGINAL INTENT to stand firm AGAINST POLITICAL WILL….
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/antonin-scalia-dead-supreme-court-justice-04.jpg?quality=85
or
what’s so absurd is that swank is SUCH an over-the-top italian chauvinist yet he accuses everyone else of racism.
this is the theory that only straight WASP males can be racists.
it’s racism when you use my tax dollars to do it ya jedrool.
to do what?
“white flight” has been motivated by the varying quality and the varying student bodies of school districts.
hasn’t it?
i would never defend segregation on moral grounds, but i would defer to the voters.
…
contra-g-man apartheid and jim crow are 100% UN-related.
apartheid was ruined by capitalism, by greed, and by jews.
the median black (in ZA) is worse off today than he was in 1994.
20% of whites have left ZA.
disprove me swank the fake guido.
Indeed the voters can vote to use the government to force individuals to associate with other individuals and not with others under threat of force….according to Muggy. And…….satan.
how is that different from forcing them to associate?
what if blacks wanted segregation too? would brown have been the right decision then?
case in point northern ireland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregation_in_Northern_Ireland
swank wants protestants and catholics to be forced to associate.
sad!
two guys saying the same thing.
yet swank will make the de jure/de facto distinction again and contradict herself.
sad!
what about segregation by gender?
women’s bathroom’s are much cleaner than men’s bathroom’s, so separate is inherently unequal.
what about segregation of genders in education?
what about segregation by test scores in education?
swank is ok with all of these, but segregation by one’s ancient ancestors he’s not ok with and he demands legislation from the bench.
SAD!
women’s restrooms are much cleaner than men’s restrooms, so separate is inherently unequal.
Integration doesn’t force anyone to associate. As you well know, even in integrated schools, people can segregate themselves. De jure segregation removes the ability to choose at all.
So a denial of freedom of association and forcing niggers to pay to be called niggers.
You a cold ass honky, muggy.
so in this instance de jure matters even though without it the result is even worse?
segregating water fountains is stupid, whites and backs are still drinking next to each other thus associating.
Bussing black kids 50 to 80 miles to a white school then 50 to 80 miles back seem impractical. Unless you’re in Nebraska or something. The quality of education doesn’t even go up. That is what should really matter. They do not do this practice anymore but was really popular in the 60’s and 70’s.
no, de facto is what matters: a nigger is forced to pay an institution to tell him he is a nigger. you believe this is fine. others believe this is unjust, wrong, and represents a failure of Republican government to protect minority rights — you know, one of those explicitly stated original INTENTs. It’s almost as if you’re selective about that sort of thing or whatever….
Why do you keep fuckin saying the founders wanted to protect blacks? If they did, they would protected blacks in the laws they wrote. The intent was always clear.
the 13th and 14th amendment aren’t amendments to the US constitution, which the Founders intended to be the supreme law of the land…?
blacks wouldn’t be a minority group per Madison’s intensions extended to today?
i agree. the intent is clear.
Read what Abe Lincoln said about blacks and in particular he plan, which he co-sponsored a bill on, to repatriate all blacks back to africa.
I prefer to read John Bingham, main author of the 14th amendment’s, words on it…
The proposition pending before the House is simply a proposition to arm the Congress . . . with the power to enforce the bill of rights as it stands in the Constitution today.”
…
It was an opprobrium to the Republic that for fidelity to the United States they could not by national law be protected against the degrading punishment inflicted on slaves and felons by State law. That great want of the citizen and stranger, protection by national law from unconstitutional State enactments, is supplied by the first section of this amendment.”
I wonder why John Bingham isn’t discussed more and why the Incorporation Doctrine is thought of as ‘against original intent.’
Could it be…
….
SATAN?
History degrees are so fucking useless, though! HA!
Segregation should be permissible along categorical variables (male vs. female) or even ordinal ones if there is reason to do so (height/smartness), but not continuous ones with no inherent order across all situations (like race).
Because it’s not like Black is either/or, it comes in degrees, and the races vary on many different continuous variables, while still overlapping on most traits.
In many societies it’s difficult to classify by race because of the amount of blending (like Brazil). So it would just be hard from a logistical perspective to divide people up.
swank is so fucking retarded it’s sad.
how is the “normal person” standard literally 1 MILLION times broader than original intent?
for every drunk legislator who voted for the bill because he was told to, because his backers told him to, because he didn’t want the trouble of explaining why he didn’t vote for it…
there were and are literally 1 MILLION citizens who ARE the same…just without the vote part.
true, but the ‘normal person at the time’ standard removes the time machine.
that you believe any standard that must utilize a time machine — sorry, imagined time machine — can be described as ‘narrow’ is….interesting.
some day we will look back on this picture and shudder.
as much as at this one.
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i have suffered irreparable harm from having to use the filthy men’s restroom.
so Jim Crow is the same as male and female restrooms. got it.
Exactly Mugabe, Swank wants gender neutral bathrooms and women to be allowed compete in male sports and anyone to be allowed use the disabled parking spot at the supermarket.
Swank obviously doesn’t want these things. But when it comes to race, suddenly swank swaps his brain with Deal With It! and demands affirmative action.
So McKinsey doesn’t have any blacks? No problem! – McKinsey should be forced to accept blacks even if it means lowering the standard.
^^ Exact Analogy to Plessy and schooling.
What the governor of alabama did, Wallace i think his name was, when he ordered the national guard to keep blacks away from whites was a bit over the top.
Swanky keeps bleating this line about blacks being paid to be seperated. Of the high schools in america what % of them were built with black tax dollars MINUS black prison costs and black crime costs and ‘anti-poverty’ spending?!
The only reason Swanky starts thinking in ‘moral’ terms about these social arrangements rather than the ones above is because of jews talking about not being allowed into Harvard and the country club and using blacks as a trojan horse in the 60s.
There is nothing ‘immoral’ around women not competing in male olympic sprints. In fact its more ‘moral’ that women compete with each other. But swank all of a sudden thinks Africa should build a bridge to Harvard and replace everyone in there because that is ‘moral’ or whatever he read in the NYT yesterday.
we’re not talking about affirmative action, Jim Crow has nothing to do with ‘acceptance even it means lowering the standard,’ and i didn’t say blacks ‘being paid to be separated.’
i already quoted James Madison regarding the importance of minority rights and explained that i disagree with the notion that a member of any minority group should be forced to pay taxes into any system which explicitly treats him like he is a second-class citizen or inferior. you apparently don’t care about what Madison says when it doesn’t fit into your worldview and agree with people being forced to pay to be told by their own government that they are inferior.
“Protect minorities”….such an autist.
If most white people TODAY move their kids out of black schools, what do you Madison thought?
Madison, as a non-retard, would realize that whites attempting to move their kids out of black schools via non-State-backed means is not government action, so would be completely different from using the State to separate whites and blacks or whoever else.
You just dont get it. Madison and all the other founders didnt see blacks and native americans even as equals, or normal citizens. When he uses the phrase minority, he means a political minority, not a racial one. Its fuckin obvious, if you aren’t a jewish hack.
no YOU just don’t get it.
you DON’T care about the Founders, the constitution, or any of that
AND IT IS OBVIOUS
AND THIS ENTIRE EXCHANGE HAS CONTINUOUSLY PROVEN ME RIGHT
WHY?
BECAUSE I’M ITALIAN AND YOU CAN’T FOOL ME.
The only reason blacks and jews complain about not going to Harvard is because they don’t want to study with other blacks and jews.
Like I said 1000000000000000000 times, Harvard won’t mean anything to ANYONE if it started taking only asians as they are the best students etc.
Swank doesn’t grasp this nor does he grasp the idea that the law wouldn’t exist, as we know it, if Robert Mugabe, the real one, was a founder of America instead of Madison et al.
For Swank – ‘the law’ and ‘Harvard’ fell out of the sky and now all that matters is being a communist and sharing them equally as more things are bound to fall out of the sky anytime now.
^^^Exact analogy to Plessy.
for phil stringing together random (or historically and otherwise inaccurate) sentence fragments and strawmanning an opponent counts as ‘good point-making.’
“what about segregation by test scores in education?”
You are not allowed to do this. Ron Unz showed empirically that Asians are not allowed to study in Harvard despite higher test scores than whites but jews can score like a drunk sailor and still get into Harvard e.g. Jared Kushner.
You are allowed#
The right to associate is the right to exclude. There no other way around it. If John, Steve and Mike start a treehouse club and exclude Jonah, the jew because hes different you then have to ask why Jonah think the treehouse is worth getting into so much rather than why Steve and Mike are ‘evil’.
^^^ EXACT Analogy to Plessy.
no it isn’t you retard. no one is stopping John, Steve, and Mike from doing whatever they want to do with their club. those clubs are still explicitly allowed.
plessy stands for the proposition that institutions which make use of PUBLIC money can exclude and enforce social orders that connote superior and inferior via innate characteristics, which means forcing the oppressed to pay to be oppressed.
if segregation is natural, why do you have to enforce it at the end of a gun?
if people want it so bad, why does the government need to be involved? won’t people just do it on their own? why do you need to take away their choice?
The founders opinions of blacks were WORSE than mine. Jefferson and Washington even owned slaves if I recall right. Franklin wrote a paper against immigration from ‘inferior stock’. What is this la la land idea of the founders coming from?
Jefferson introduced an anti sodomy law.
These people were EVEN FURTHER to the right on social issues than I am.
if everyone already has that opinion and wants to segregate, then why do you have to enforce it at the end of a gun? do you not see the difference between personal opinion and utilizing the State?
These people were EVEN FURTHER to the right on social issues than I am.
using your retarded way of analyzing how far left or right individuals are.
Jefferson’s law was liberal for the time.
It’s highly likely that if we had a time machine and brought all the Founders to the future and raised them, they would end up far to the left of you or even me on many social issues.
Jefferson age 33 wanted to put in the declaration of independence that inalienable rights could not be taken away because of color but the other people around him said no. (he had drafts of it though) He would have ended slavery if he could and this was him working towards it that was suppressed.
“It’s highly likely that if we had a time machine and brought all the Founders to the future and raised them”
i.e. brainwashed them with Harvey Weinstein movies.
I bet Swank is one of these open border morons that says its ‘racist’ that Somali pirates aren’t allowed live in France and that Pakistani people have just as much right to Germany’s healthcare system as Germans because ‘they are human too’.
The reason jews are so successful is because there are so many stupid people out there. Lets face it. Thats the main reason.
Are borders ‘forced segregation’ Swank? Should they be declared unconstitutional as well then?
The funny thing is I bet Swank would personally move house if black people from Compton moved into his neighbourhood and would change his daughters school if Treyvon Martin himself became her teacher. But then will turn around to me and Robert and wave his finger and tell us to marry a black woman to ‘proove’ were not racist.
IMO, Swank is a jew. Its obvious.
it DOES follow from the moral argument for de-segregation that swank believes in that anything less than open borders is immoral.
swank doesn’t care. his pompous moralizing is SELECTIVE.
segregating by gender or test scores is accepted, because gender and test scores are accepted as important distinctions.
it used to be that race was considered an important distinction by the majority of southerners and a super majority of white southerners.
whether the black/white distinction is worth making may be a question of FACT. it may be that between plessy and brown and johnson’s civil rights acts new FACTS have been learned which demonstrate that race is not important.
but i repeat, i suspect plessy was the wrong decision based on original intent.
it DOES follow from the moral argument
it most certainly does NOT via the difference between U.S. citizen and non-U.S. citizen.
his pompous moralizing is SELECTIVE.
selective? ME?
(1) you believe original intent is the ONLY jurisprudence (2) you believe Congressional Action can change or nullify the meaning of an amendment (Congress equips the Army and is responsible for any tech-change in that area), so you believe in original intent except for when you don’t.
segregating by gender or test scores is accepted, because
race is a more protected class than both gender and ‘high-testers,’ actually. even from a factual standpoint, the segregation of GATE/Special-Ed or men/women is simply not on the same level as Jim Crow. perhaps Phil will cheer it on, though….
may be that between plessy and brown and johnson’s civil rights acts new FACTS have been learned which demonstrate that race is not important.
this will be TWICE you have argued that something OUTSIDE the formal amendment process can change the meaning of the constitution, given that the 13th and 14th amendment’s “original intent” all center on race being a pretty important distinction NOT to make given, in James ‘KikeMaster’ Madison’s words, America’s original sin…..
the difference between U.S. citizen and non-U.S. citizen.
is a moral difference? not a purely legal difference?
swank! my darling!
your transition has been UN-successful.
the rest of swank’s comment is just an illogical woman screaming.
the citizen is coerced, the non-citizen is not. is that purely a legal difference or moral difference?
if black people from Compton moved into my neighborhood they’d probably be extremely smart and conscientious….like the Huxtables.
who would mind living near the Huxtables?
but you’re right…Cliff did turn out to be a profligate rapist.
WHERE IS MY JEW EQUALITY-LOVING GOD NOW?!
Are borders ‘forced segregation’ Swank? Should they be declared unconstitutional as well then?
Are people outside U.S. borders, “U.S. Citizens” phil?
DUC the difference between that and Jim Crow?
now swank is falling back on a legal argument.
Are people outside U.S. borders, “U.S. Citizens” phil?
not a moral argument.
swank contradicts herself again.
btw, i would guess that original intent would have dis-favored the majority in plessy as the 14th amendment was written for former slaves/with former slaves in mind.
maybe plessy was just a way to prevent a civil war 2.0. but it was 7-1.
the only person characterizing what I’ve said as a moral argument is YOU
forcing someone to pay to be treated inequitably is as much a legal argument as it is a moral one, unless you believe the equal protection clause itself is a ‘moral argument,’ only citizens are forced to pay, and a term such as unjust is a legal term as well as a moral one, stoonad.
the only person characterizing what I’ve said as a moral argument is YOU
AND YOU!
arguing with a jewish woman is entertaining but poitless.
is a non-citizen forced to pay, muggy?
I happened to notice that you didn’t answer the question…
The reason jews are so successful is because there are so many stupid people out there.
this is swank. sad!
the italians have once again proven they can’t be cuck-ed.
that they ARE the master race!
five star and la liga will form a government.
the first populist government in western europe.
if swank were an actual italian, he’d be blowing his vuvuvzela for this.
silence.
sad!
“The white race deems itself to be the dominant race in this country. And so it is in prestige, in achievements, in education, in wealth and in power. So, I doubt not, it will continue to be for all time if it remains true to its great heritage and holds fast to the principles of constitutional liberty. But in view of the constitution, in the eye of the law, there is in this country no superior, dominant, ruling class of citizens. There is no caste here. Our constitution is color-blind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens. In respect of civil rights, all citizens are equal before the law. The humblest is the peer of the most powerful. The law regards man as man, and takes no account of his surroundings or of his color when his civil rights as guaranteed by the supreme law of the land are involved. It is therefore to be regretted that this high tribunal, the final expositor of the fundamental law of the land, has reached the conclusion that it is competent for a state to regulate the enjoyment by citizens of their civil rights solely upon the basis of race.”
WRONG
The constitution is ‘racist’ or whatever jewish psych ops term you want to use. Tell the native americans whether they thought white male property owners were the only people allowed to vote was a good idea.
The only minority in my opinion with a LEGITIMATE claim to reparations are native americans based on the treaties they signed and which treaties were broken by whites seizing land anyway.
That being said, I would suggest native americans and blacks would prefer living as second class citizens in America, that equal citizens in Tanzania or Honduras.
what the shit are you even talking about? you keep saying things that no one ever said and arguing against points people never even made….
are you schizophrenic or schizo-something….
…
whatever it is….
LAY OFF THE ROBITUSSIN, BOY.
This is the crux you clown. What the founders ‘intended’ is clear for all to see in their actions of the time nevermind the actual constitution they wrote. Why won’t you accept that this is their ‘original intent’. Anyone non-brainwashed, or non jewish can see a man that owns black slaves is not going to give a fuck about seperate toilets for blacks and whites.
In Swankyland, people that own slaves, didn’t let blacks vote and violently seized land from native americans definitely cared a lot about the rights of racial minorities.
This is the type of logic they teach in law school.
As I keep saying, academia is a complete fraud at this stage. Anyone with basic common sense, can see what the original intent of the founders was. Its not rocket science.
A jew like Swank would rather set himself on fire than admit the founders were racist. And swank has the gumption to turn around, wag his finger and say I pedestalise these people.
Anyone non-brainwashed, or non jewish can see a man that owns black slaves is not going to give a fuck about seperate toilets for blacks and whites.
but they did NOT author the 14th amendment pill.
phil proves my point repeatedly, having IGNORED the constitution itself without even realizing it how many times now?
the world works as i say it does.
Ed Meese loves people like phil.
At the end of the day, these postmodernists and the jews have to explain why they want to join the treehouse so badly? Because it renders all their arguments moot if they can’t explain it.
America as we know wouldn’t exist if native americans weren’t forced off the land. When the US bought the louisiana territories or Alaska, none of the natives were asked or got any money.
The idea that the US was not founded on ‘racism’ is a joke. It is obviously a segregated and ‘racist’ nation. I agree with Foucalt and Herzl and Marx when they say this. 100%.
If you ask blacks in Compton whether they should make room for Native americans, you would get shot.
The biggest jewish myth is that america is some sort of gender neutral, race neutral utopia that the founders originally intended.
The founders were WELL AWARE of who native americans and blacks were. To suggest they didn’t see the contradiction in the treatment of natives and blacks is a delusion. They definitely knew about it.
The biggest jewish myth is that america is some sort of gender neutral, race neutral utopia that the founders originally intended.
no one says this. not jews, not WASPs…no one.
…a further aside…
perhaps a concept like ‘equal protection under the law’ is a concept that most can’t grasp because most can’t separate it from personal social choice.
You keep saying that and ignoring how america is based on unequal protection under the law. Look at the amount of indian reservation land and compare to the land it says they should have by treaties the US gov signed. Look at what happened to japs in WW2. Abe Lincoln himself expressely co sponsored a bill to allocate funds to repatriate blacks. In his letters he makes it clear what he thinks of blacks.
The people that wrote the 14th amendment had no intention of sending their kids to school with Robanda.
Jews took it upon themselves to pretend that seperate schools was a ‘right’ of blacks that was being infringed when its basically a social arrangment.
These people when they wrote equal protection, didn’t mean equal treatment. They were talking about tort and criminal law. Not making blacks the exact same as whites.
Has it never occured to you that these people lived with segregation in their time as well? You think the people that voted on the 14th amendment didnt realise their kids where in white only schools?!
YOU ARE DELUDED.
America is founded on racism. 100% agree with the jews on this. You should be happy. I 100% agree the founders are evil racists. Now you have to accept that racism is their original intent.
You can pretend all you want that they’d be transgender berkely professors if they lived now. Its irrelevant.
All we care about for the purposes of this discussion is original intent. Not conditional intent.
The original intent of these people is crystal clear to me. I’ve given examples of Washington ripping up treaties with native americans, jefferson passing anti-sodomy laws, and lincoln sponsoring a bill to repatriate blacks to africa. All you’ve given me is theoretical and rhetorical nonsense which doesnt even make sense.
when the Alabama Supreme Court first interpreted the equal protection clause as applied to an anti-miscegenation law in 1872 in Burns v. State it said….
“Marriage is a civil contract, and in that character alone is dealt with by the municipal law. The same right to make a contract as is enjoyed by white citizens, means the right to make any contract which a white citizen may make. The law intended to destroy the distinctions of race and color in respect to the rights secured by it. It did not aim to create merely an equality of the races in reference to each other. If so, laws prohibiting the races from suing each other, giving evidence for or against, or dealing with one another, would be permissible. The very excess to which such a construction would lead is conclusive against it.”
Filed in: History is useless so sayeth the truthiness brigade.
‘The original intent of these people is crystal clear to me.’
The people that wrote the 14th amendment had no intention of sending their kids to school with Robanda.
i’m not sure about that. it was likely written by northerners before The Great Migration. and it was written before universal compulsory public education.
“In 1787, the Confederation Congress enacted the Northwest Ordinance, opening the Ohio Valley to new American settlement. Members of the Western Lakes Confederacy reacted by utilizing armed resistance to protect their land. These events increased the urgency for Washington to develop a formal method for managing Indian affairs. In referring to the constitutional grant of treaty-making powers to the chief executive—with the “advice and consent” of the Senate—Washington declared that a similar practice should also apply to agreements with Native Americans. The Senate acceded to the President’s wishes and accepted treaties as the basis for conducting Indian relations.
In response, Congress proceeded to approve a treaty with seven northern tribes (the Shawnee, Miami, Ottawa, Chippewa, Iroquois, Sauk, and Fox). This agreement, however, lacked meaningful protection of tribal land. To the northern tribes this ineffectual treaty and the constant intrusion into their lands by droves of settlers meant that the American government had little control over its own citizens. Members of the northern tribes believed it was necessary to deploy force to prevent further incursions.
Washington’s desire to protect American citizens led to an American military response. In 1790 and 1791, Washington dispatched armies to confront native forces, and in both instances the Americans were soundly defeated. Responding to these two embarrassing setbacks, Congress authorized a five-thousand man regular army to quell resistance. Led by General “Mad Anthony” Wayne, the Legion inflicted a crushing defeat on the Indian confederation in the Summer of 1794. This decisive battle and the ensuing Treaty of Greenville brought a tentative peace to the northwest in 1795.”
The constitution does not apply to native americans – signed, George Washington.
plessy and brown involved the 14th amendment which was ratified in 1868.
so it doesn’t need washington’s blessing.
….And that children is how native americans got back all their land after the 14th amendment passed.
The contrast between trumpy and obama is hilarious. Imo obama wasnt a bad president on policy. If obama was anti immigration i would maybe even vote for him over trump because i know obama hates jews which i like.
As a non-white of muslim ancestry, obama opposed Israel & supported immigration for tribal reasons.
Trump is even more tribal, but worships Israel because they’re on america’s side against Muslims. He’s not smart enough to realize that America’s being used.
“Muslim ancestry”?
yes rr, get with the peepee pc program. “muslim” is a race.
Didn’t mean it was a race, just meant it’s part if his family background/tradition
I said it when obama let the un censure israel – that takes balls. Well done. Respect. It wpuld be great if someday obama opened up about his feeli gs towards netanyahu and israeli lobbyists and neocons.