[Note from Pumpkin Person, feb 22, 2018: The following is a guest article by Race Realist and does not necessarily reflect the views of Pumpkin Person. Out of respect for the author, please try to keep all comments on-topic. I understand conversations naturally evolve but at least start on topic]
Lead has many known neurological effects on the brain (regarding the development of the brain and nervous system) that lead to many deleterious health outcomes and negative outcomes in general. Including (but not limited to) lower IQ, higher rates of crime, higher blood pressure and higher rates of kidney damage, which have permanent, persistent effects (Stewart et al, 2007). Chronic lead exposure, too, can “also lead to decreased fertility, cataracts, nerve disorders, muscle and joint pain, and memory or concentration problems” (Sanders et al, 2009). Lead exposure in vitro, infancy, and childhood can also lead to “neuronal death” (Lidsky and Schneider, 2003). While epigenetic inheritance also playing a part (Sen et al, 2015). How do blacks and whites differ in exposure to lead? How much is the difference between the two races in America, and how much would it contribute to crime? On the other hand, China has high rates of lead exposure, but lower rates of crime, so how does this relationship play out with the lead-crime relationship overall? Are the Chinese an outlier or is there something else going on?
The effects of lead on the brain are well known, and numerous amounts of effort have been put into lowering levels of lead in America (Gould, 2009). Higher exposure to lead is also found in poorer, lower class communities (Hood, 2005). So since higher levels of lead exposure are found more often in lower-class communities, then blacks should have blood-lead levels than whites. This is what we find.
Blacks had a 27 percent higher concentration of lead in their tibia, while having significantly higher levels of blood lead, “likely because of sustained higher ongoing lead exposure over the decades” (Theppeang et al, 2008). Other data—coming out of Detroit—shows the same relationships (Haar et al, 1979; Talbot, Murphy, and Kuller, 1982; Lead poisoning in children under 6 jumped 28% in Detroit in 2016; also see Maqsood, Stanbury, and Miller, 2017) while lead levels in the water contribute to high levels of blood-lead in Flint, Michigan (Hanna-Attisha et al, 2016; Laidlaw et al, 2016). Cassidy-Bushrow et al (2017) also show that “The disproportionate burden of lead exposure is vertically transmitted (i.e., mother-to-child) to African-American children before they are born and persists into early childhood.”
Children exposed to lead have lower brain volumes as children, specifically in the ventrolateral prefrontal cortex, which is the same region of the brain that is impaired in antisocial and psychotic persons (Cecil et al, 2008). The community that was tested was well within the ‘safe’ range set by the CDC (Raine, 2014: 224), though the CDC says that there is no safe level of lead exposure. There is a large body of studies which show that there is no safe level of lead exposure (Needleman and Landrigan, 2004; Canfield, Jusko, and Kordas, 2005; Barret, 2008; Rossi, 2008; Abelsohn and Sanborn, 2010; Betts, 2012; Flora, Gupta, and Tiwari, 2012; Gidlow, 2015; Lanphear, 2015; Wani, Ara, and Usmani, 2015; Council on Environmental Health, 2016; Hanna-Attisha et al, 2016; Vorvolakos, Aresniou, and Samakouri, 2016; Lanphear, 2017). So the data is clear that there is absolutely no safe level of lead exposure, and even small effects can lead to deleterious outcomes.
Further, one brain study of 532 men who worked in a lead plant showed that those who had higher levels of lead in their bones had smaller brains, even after controlling for confounds like age and education (Stewart et al, 2008). Raine (2014: 224) writes:
The fact that the frontal cortex was particularly reduced is very interesting, given that this brain region is involved in violence. This lead effect was equivalent to five years of premature aging of the brain.
So we have good data that the parts of the brain that relate to violent tendencies are reduced in people exposed to more lead had the same smaller parts of the brain, indicating a relationship. But what about antisocial disorders? Are people with higher levels of lead in their blood more likely to be antisocial?
Needleman et al (1996) show that boys who had higher levels of lead in their blood had higher teacher ratings of aggressive and delinquent behavior, along with higher self-reported ratings of aggressive behavior. Even high blood-lead levels later in life is related to crime. One study in Yugoslavia showed that blood lead levels at age three had a stronger relationship with destructive behavior than did prenatal blood lead levels (Wasserman et al, 2008); with this same relationship being seen in America with high blood lead levels correlating with antisocial and aggressive behavior at age 7 and not age 2 (Chen et al 2007).
Nevin (2007) showed a strong relationship between preschool lead exposure and subsequent increases in criminal cases in America, Canada, Britain, France, Australia, Finland, West Germany, and New Zealand. Reyes (2007) also shows that crime increased quicker in states that saw a subsequent large decrease in lead levels, while variations in lead levels within cities correlating with variations in crime rates (Mielke and Zahran, 2012). Nevin (2000) showed a strong relationship between environmental lead levels from 1941 to 1986 and corresponding changes to violent crime twenty-three years later in the United States. Raine (2014: 226) writes (emphasis mine):
So, young children who are most vulnerable to lead absorption go on twenty-three years later to perpetrate adult violence. As lead levels rose throughout the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, so too did violence correspondingly rise in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. When lead levels fell in the late 1970s and early 1980s, so too did violence fall in the 1990s and the first decade of the twenty-first century. Changes in lead levels explained a full 91 percent of the variance in violent offending—an extremely strong relationship.
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From international to national to state to city levels, the lead levels and violence curves match up almost exactly.
But does lead have a causal effect on crime? Due to the deleterious effects it has on the developing brain and nervous system, we should expect to find a relationship, and thus relationship should become stronger with higher doses of lead. Fortunately, I am aware of one analysis, a sample that’s 90 percent black, which shows that with every 5 microgram increase in prenatal blood-lead levels, that there was a 40 percent higher risk of arrest (Wright et al, 2008). This makes sense with the deleterious developmental effects of lead; we are aware of how and why people with high levels of lead in their blood show similar brain scans/brain volume in certain parts of the brain in comparison to antisocial/violent people. So this is yet more suggestive evidence for a causal relationship.
Jennifer Doleac discusses three studies that show that blood-lead levels in America need to be addressed, since they are related strongly to negative health outcomes.Aizer and Curry (2017) show that “A one-unit increase in lead increased the probability of suspension from school by 6.4-9.3 percent and the probability of detention by 27-74 percent, though the latter applies only to boys.” They also show that children who live nearer to roads have higher blood-lead levels, since the soil near highways was contaminated decades ago with leaded gasoline. Fiegenbaum and Muller (2016) show that cities’ use of lead pipes increased murder rates between the years o921 and 1936. Finally, Billings and Schnepnel (2017: 4) show that their “results suggest that the effects of high levels of [lead] exposure on antisocial behavior can largely be reversed by intervention—children who test twice over the alert threshold exhibit similar outcomes as children with lower levels of [lead] exposure (BLL<5μg/dL).
A relationship with lead exposure in vitro and arrests at adulthood. The sample was 90 percent black, with numerous controls. They found that prenatal and post-natal blood-lead exposure was associated with higher arrest rates, along with higher arrest rates for violent acts (Wright et al, 2008). To be specific, for every 5 microgram increase in prenatal blood-lead levels, there was a 40 percent greater risk for arrest. This is direct causal evidence for the lead-causes-crime hypothesis.
One study showed that in post-Katrina New Orleans, decreasing lead levels in the soil caused a subsequent decrease in blood lead levels in children (Mielke, Gonzales, and Powell, 2017). Sean Last argues that, while he believes that lead does contribute to crime, that the racial gaps have closed in the recent decades, therefore blood-lead levels cannot be a source of some of the variance in crime between blacks and whites, and even cites the CDC ‘lowering its “safe” values’ for lead, even though there is no such thing as a safe level of lead exposure (references cited above). White, Bonilha, and Ellis Jr., (2015) also show that minorities—blacks in particular—have higher rates of lead in their blood. Either way, Last seems to downplay large differences in lead exposure between whites and blacks at young ages, even though that’s when critical development of the mind/brain and other important functioning occurs. There is no safe level of lead exposure—pre- or post-natal—nor are there safe levels at adulthood. Even a small difference in blood lead levels would have some pretty large effects on criminal behavior.
Sean Last also writes that “Black children had a mean BLL which was 1 ug/dl higher than White children and that this BLL gap shrank to 0.9 ug/dl in samples taken between 2003 and 2006, and to 0.5 ug/dl in samples taken between 2007 and 2010.” Though, still, there are problems here too: “After adjustment, a 1 microgram per deciliter increase in average childhood blood lead level significantly predicts 0.06 (95% confidence interval [CI] = 0.01, 0.12) and 0.09 (95% CI = 0.03, 0.16) SD increases and a 0.37 (95% CI = 0.11, 0.64) point increase in adolescent impulsivity, anxiety or depression, and body mass index, respectively, following ordinary least squares regression. Results following matching and instrumental variable strategies are very similar” (Winter and Sampson, 2017).
Naysayers may point to China and how they have higher levels of blood-lead levels than America (two times higher), but lower rates of crime, some of the lowest in the world. The Hunan province in China has considerably lowered blood-lead levels in recent years, but they are still higher than developed countries (Qiu et al, 2015). One study even shows ridiculously high levels of lead in Chinese children “Results showed that mean blood lead level was 88.3 micro g/L for 3 – 5-year-old children living in the cities in China and mean blood lead level of boys (91.1 micro g/L) was higher than that of girls (87.3 micro g/L). Twenty-nine point nine one percent of the children’s blood lead level exceeded 100 micro g/L” (Qi et al, 2002), while Li et al (2014) found similar levels. Shanghai also has higher levels of blood lead than the rest of the developed world (Cao et al, 2014). Blood lead levels are also higher in Taizhou, China compared to other parts of the country—and the world (Gao et al, 2017). But blood lead levels are decreasing with time, but still higher than other developed countries (He, Wang, and Zhang, 2009).
Furthermore, Chinese women, compared to American women, had two times higher BLL (Wang et al, 2015). With transgenerational epigenetic inheritance playing a part in the inheritance of methylation DNA passed from mother to daughter then to grandchildren (Sen et al, 2015), this is a public health threat to Chinese women and their children. So just by going off of this data, the claim that China is a safe country should be called into question.
Reality seems to tell a different story. It seems that the true crime rate in China is covered up, especially the murder rate:
In Guangzhou, Dr Bakken’s research team found that 97.5 per cent of crime was not reported in the official statistics.
Of 2.5 million cases of crime, in 2015 the police commissioner reported 59,985 — exactly 15 less than his ‘target’ of 60,000, down from 90,000 at the start of his tenure in 2012.
The murder rate in China is around 10,000 per year according to official statistics, 25 per cent less than the rate in Australia per capita.
“I have the internal numbers from the beginning of the millennium, and in 2002 there were 52,500 murders in China,” he said.Instead of 25 per cent less murder than Australia, Dr Bakken said the real figure was closer to 400 per cent more.”
Guangzhou, for instance, doesn’t keep data for crime committed by migrants, who commit 80 percent of the crime in this province. Out of 2.5 million crimes committed in Guangzhou, only 5,985 crimes were reported in their official statistics, which was 15 crimes away from their target of 6000. Weird… Either way, China doesn’t have a similar murder rate to Switzerland:
The murder rate in China does not equal that of Switzerland, as the Global Times claimed in 2015. It’s higher than anywhere in Europe and similar to that of the US.
China also ranks highly on the corruption index, higher than the US, which is more evidence indicative of a covered up crime rate. So this is good evidence that, contrary to the claims of people who would attempt to downplay the lead-crime relationship, that these effects are real and that they do matter in regard to crime and murder.
So it’s clear that we can’t trust the official Chinese crime stats since there much of their crime is not reported. Why should we trust crime stats from a corrupt government? The evidence is clear that China has a higher crime—and murder rate—than is seen on the Chinese books.
Lastly, effects of epigenetics can and do have a lasting effect on even the grandchildren of mothers exposed to lead while pregnant (Senut et al, 2012; Sen et al, 2015). Sen et al (2015) showed lead exposure during pregnancy affected the DNA methylation status of the fetal germ cells, which then lead to altered DNA methylation on dried blood spots in the grandchildren of the mother exposed to lead while pregnant.—though it’s indirect evidence. If this is true and holds in larger samples, then this could be big for criminological theory and could be a cause for higher rates of black crime (note: I am not claiming that lead exposure could account for all, or even most of the racial crime disparity. It does account for some, as can be seen by the data compiled here).
In conclusion, the relationship between lead exposure and crime is robust and replicated across many countries and cultures. No safe level of blood lead exists, even so-called trace amounts can have horrible developmental and life outcomes, which include higher rates of criminal activity. There is a clear relationship between lead increases/decreases in populations—even within cities—that then predict crime rates. Some may point to the Chinese as evidence against a strong relationship, though there is strong evidence that the Chinese do not report anywhere near all of their crime data. Epigenetic inheritance, too, can play a role here mostly regarding blacks since they’re more likely to be exposed to high levels of lead in the womb, their infancy, and childhood. This could also exacerbate crime rates, too. The evidence is clear that lead exposure leads to increased criminal activity, and that there is a strong relationship between blood lead levels and crime.
Myopia is correlated with higher IQ and hyperopia with lower IQ.
A possible explanation is that some genes influencing eyes size also influence brain size.
So there is a priori no link with SES.
There is no evidence that it’s causal.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/joph/2015/271746/
It could be that people who read more etc get it too.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21469524/
Physiological pathways that cause trait variation also need to be identified along with the supposed genes that ’cause’ this.
‘So there is a priori no link with SES.’
SES is not social class.
“It could be that people who read more etc get it too.”
This could be true if it was only myopia but hyperopia have a negative correlation with IQ and it’s basically the opposite of myopia.
People with myopia have longer eyes (bigger brains?) and higher IQ. It’s the opposite for people with hyperopia.
People with none are inbetween in both eyes size and IQ.
“SES is not social class”
A priori no link with social class too.
“This could be true if it was only myopia but hyperopia have a negative correlation with IQ and it’s basically the opposite of myopia.”
So it’s not true because hyperopia is negatively correlated?
“People with myopia have longer eyes (bigger brains?) and higher IQ. It’s the opposite for people with hyperopia.”
Correlations are small; no causal relationship yet.
“A priori no link with social class too.”
Upticks in hyperopia show that there are ‘environmental’ components, not only ‘genetic’ components.
Either way let’s discuss this elsewhere on PP’s blog. This is about crime and lead.
Don’t know about crime but Alan Kaufman was a huge critic of the theory that lead lowered IQ:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0887617700000846
“So it’s not true because hyperopia is negatively correlated?”
I’m saying this is probably not the only explanation.
I’d say the case for lead and crime is very strong; especially with those quotes from Adrian Raine’s book The Anatomy of Violence: The Biological Roots of Crime. Though, of course, he’s a selfish gene-er and he—naturally—is biased toward largely full-on ‘genetic’ explanations. All in all, it’s a good book with a ton of references and the end is OK with his imagining how society would be like if we could identify criminals from brain scans.
I wrote this article because I saw some conversations on Twitter with people saying that it’s ‘just correlations’, citing that Alternative Hypothesis article. They’re so biased; it’s like they deny any and all types of ‘environmental’ causes that we can intervene to stop. It’s very clear that lead has a causal effect on crime. And the relationship is very strong.
Regarding ‘IQ’, I’ll check that paper out tonight.
Don’t know about crime but Alan Kaufman was a huge critic of the theory that lead lowered IQ
I would be problematic for eyekew because lead is a neurotoxin, that’s not debated nor debatable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotoxin
So, if eyekew is not affected by lead exposure, it’s some evidence against its biological rooting.
“A possible explanation is that some genes influencing eyes size also influence brain size.”
My brain shrunk reading this.
If you strain your eyes reading, you get glasses. People that read a lot are smarter. It isn’t rocket science.
LOL! Lyrion, are you really this dumb? Do you know the symptoms of hyperopia and notice how they severely impair test-taking ability and all near-work?
I don’t much about it I’m just asking questions, enlighten me with your science.
Why do you think google IA confuse black people faces with ape faces ?
Because it’s a dumb software, duh.
What do you know about softwares ?
And you?
Glad to learn that you don’t know shit about softwares.
Glad to see you confirm your stupidity.
It confuses black people faces with ape faces because their faces are very similar to ape faces statistically and statistics are what the application uses to make the judgement. I’m sure rhesus monkey faces would be confused for white people faces, however.
No, it makes the confusion because it’s too dumb to distinguish dark skin from fur.
Fenoopy is a software engineer so he will have the last word on this discussion.
Out of curiosity, what do you define as “white people” ?
“No, it makes the confusion because it’s too dumb to distinguish dark skin from fur.”
Does it confuse indian faces with ape faces ?
Tell me.
A lot of Indians are darker than African Americans.
I asked you to tell me how good is google’s AI at recognizing their faces. You could also tell me why google’s facial recognition matters at all.
Anglo-Saxons and Germanics. Scandinavians look different, though.
“They are the filthiest of all Allah’s creatures: they do not purify themselves after excreting or urinating or wash themselves when in a state of ritual impurity after coitus and do not even wash their hands after food. I have never seen more perfect physical specimens, tall as date palms, blond and ruddy; they wear neither tunics nor kaftans, but the men wear a garment which covers one side of the body and leaves a hand free.”
Only Scandinavians look good. Other Germanics look like potatoes.
You’re ridiculous.
Fenoopy, I remember you saying Scandinavians were much more similar to Neanderthals than other Caucasoids were.
“Fenoopy, I remember you saying Scandinavians were much more similar to Neanderthals than other Caucasoids were.”
Genetically they are, so far as I’m aware.
You were talking about their facial features, less gracile than other Caucasoids.
They have very blocky features indeed. They are the best looking Germanics. Mediterraneans are the best looking on planet earth (bias).
harry reasoner told me that vegetable shortening is the cause of AIDS…
AND the cause of black crime.
it almost makes me want to grow a moustache.
“If you strain your eyes reading, you get glasses. People that read a lot are smarter. It isn’t rocket science.”
We already know this Fenoopy, you are off topic. May be now you could try to explain us why people with hyperopia have lower IQs.
Maybe now you can get back on topic and discuss crime and lead.
I was waiting for this one
So race, if I read this article right. What youre saying is that blacks cause more crime and are dumber blah blah racist racist and then the reason for this is because the eat more lead?
Couldn’t you say that they are inclined to eat lead for the same reason they are inclined to live in Detroit?
What youre saying is kind of like, well africa is poor because there is AIDS there. But it doesn’t explain why africans rape women so much.
“So race, if I read this article right. What youre saying is that blacks cause more crime and are dumber blah blah racist racist and then the reason for this is because the eat more lead?”
I don’t believe that lead explains all variance between whites and blacks, but in my opinion, it’s undeniable how much lead has a causal effect on crime; it obviously causes a good amount of variance.
Because they’re poor? Alternative Hypothesis tries that cop-out retort, but it doesn’t work.Lead is found in soil and older houses; so those who are more likely to be around those areas will be exposed to more lead and thusly have higher levels of lead in their blood which causes sever cognitive and behavioral effects.
I don’t believe so.
1) Lead causes severe neurological disorders that are (to the best of my knowledge, though there is one paper I cited showing there are measures for intervention) irreversible
2) Lead exposure in the womb/in childhood is linked to crime at adulthood
3) Blacks are more likely to be exposed to lead
4) Therefore, lead explains a good amount of the crime variance.
I think the logic is sound and not flawed, am open to arguments against the case though.
PP what do you think about this hypothesis?
PP what do you think about this hypothesis?
I think lead does partly explain the black-white crime gap, but I suspect only a small part: <5%
In order for it to explain a large chunk, the effect of lead on crime would have to be large or the racial gap in lead exposure would have to be huge.
The differences in violent crimes are actually somewhat lower than the differences in violent crime.
Correction, the differences in violent crime are smaller than differences in lead exposure.
Correction, the differences in violent crime are smaller than differences in lead exposure.
That’s a good start, but if the correlation between lead and crime is small, even a large gap in lead would predict only a small gap in crime. For the theory to be compelling, you’d have to show that much of the crime gap is predicted by the lead gap. For example, if you knew that a 1 microgram per deciliter increase in childhood blood lead level predicts 1 extra month of your adult life in jail, and blacks differed from whites by this lead amount, then it could potentially explain a huge chunk of the crime gap.
Of course proving causation is always hard because lead is associated with so many other things that are thought to cause crime like poverty, low education etc. I have no doubt the correlation has some causal component, but it could be trivial.
Between 1979 and 1984, the researchers recruited pregnant women living in poor areas of Cincinnati, which had a high concentration of older, lead-contaminated housing, into the Cincinnati Lead Study. They measured the women’s blood lead concentrations during pregnancy as an indication of their offspring’s prenatal lead exposure and the children’s blood lead levels regularly until they were six and half years old. They then obtained information from the local criminal justice records on how many times each of the 250 offspring had been arrested between becoming 18 years old and the end of October 2005. The researchers found that increased blood lead levels before birth and during early childhood were associated with higher rates of arrest for any reason and for violent crimes. For example, for every 5 μg/dl increase in blood lead levels at six years of age, the risk of being arrested for a violent crime as a young adult increased by almost 50% (the “relative risk” was 1.48).
http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0050101
Between 1979 and 1984, the researchers recruited pregnant women living in poor areas of Cincinnati, which had a high concentration of older, lead-contaminated housing, into the Cincinnati Lead Study.
Well it’s good that they recruited only women from poor areas, because this helps control for a major confound: poverty. But there could still be other confounds like reckless moms having criminal kids, who just happen to get exposed to lead because mom doesn’t move them somewhere safer or warn them not to play in contaminated areas.
For example, for every 5 μg/dl increase in blood lead levels at six years of age, the risk of being arrested for a violent crime as a young adult increased by almost 50%
Interesting, but I think the racial lead gap is much smaller than that according to RR’s article:
Black children had a mean BLL which was 1 ug/dl higher than White children and that this BLL gap shrank to 0.9 ug/dl in samples taken between 2003 and 2006, and to 0.5 ug/dl in samples taken between 2007 and 2010.
Current crime rates reflect child blood lead levels in the 90s and late 80s, there is at least a 15-20 years delay between early childhood intoxication and offending in young adulthood.
As for your search for other confounds, it’s cute but it just sounds like you’re trying everything to deny the neurotoxicity of lead. You understand that it’s a fact? Not a mere correlation, it is a well understood biological process.
It’s a well understood biological process but other factors could be making it seem bigger than it is, which is not to deny its importance.
What were racial lead differences in the late 80s?
Come on, look at the charts above.
I was looking for average lead levels which the charts don’t show, but judging from the extremes, the averages were likely a lot higher in the 80s, which does make RR’s claims a lot more plausible.
I wonder if lead reduction played a big part in the Flynn effect.
I can’t tell, it’s hard to find the averages. What I also read is that the toxicity isn’t linear.
Here’s some enthusiastic support for the lead theory:
Well, it’s a hypothesis without anomalies that biologically makes sense, so yes it must be true. My opinion is that it doesn’t explain the black/white gap completely but fully explains the excess black crime rate after controlling for SES.
but why would lead cause a 24 year old to have 100 in his black book?
i will give afro a compement.
AFRO!
you aren’t trying hard enough!
The differences in violent crimes are actually somewhat lower than…
the differences in violent crime.
i wonder if afro is actually capable of getting it.
AFRO!
either you’ve LIED about your “sex life”…
OR…
you will be FOREVER ignored as a ridiculous person.
afro’s people have murdered more than hitler, stalin, and mao combined.
yet afro is proud of his black cock.
AFRO NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE!
Yes, or as I think Jared Diamond said in “Guns, Germs and Steel”, look for ultimate and not proximate causes.
Why is it that black people end up around so many bad environmental factors in the first place? Racism?
“Why should we trust crime stats from a corrupt government? The evidence is clear that China has a higher crime—and murder rate—than is seen on the Chinese books.”
As Pumpkin has repeated numerous times, the chinese are much more evolved than you Race. If you read Pumpkins proof showing southern Europeans are inferior to Canadians you wouldn’t question the even more big brained Chinese statistics.
I think Pumpkin is Blasian, too many correlations.
HAHAHAHA Race thinks Chinese people can’t count. The chinese are the world LEADERS in counting. More racist drivel.
Haha. They can count; they just count lower than the number of crimes and murders they truly do commit.
Marx wrote philosophy…why would it need to be ‘mathematically rigorous’?! The amount of autistic commenters pumpkin gets is amazing. Archie is also aspergers. It like Im talking to myself most of the time here. I must sound like Im speaking chinese to you people.
Guong xhe Fai look!
I read a comment once that you can tell a lot about HBD through languages. German and Chinese is pretty precise and blunt. Spanish and French pretty flowery etc. Its funny how race sounds more like a fascist in english than italian. Italy invented fascism. No surprise RR has not disavowed the Italian fascist party.
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F9%2F97%2FMarch_on_Rome_1922_-_Mussolini.jpg%2F1200px-March_on_Rome_1922_-_Mussolini.jpg&f=1
Theres photo proof of RR, right next to Mussolini.
Look at the size of Mussolinis brain pumpkin.
I can tell you have never taken a Chinese class.
why are you afraid of charles in charge?
Lead clearly has an effect on fertility, and high lead levels do have an effect on IQ. However, I am still doubtful of the lead-crime hypothesis for the case of the U.S. crime boom and drop. Where is the plausible mechanism linking lead to crime (it can’t be through IQ -there was no drop in average IQ during the leaded gasoline era)? How does it explain the rapid drop in Japan’s homicide rate during its economic (and leaded gasoline) boom?
“I am still doubtful of the lead-crime hypothesis for the case of the U.S. crime boom and drop.”
Why? The quote from Raine pretty much sums up the evidence for it (this author argues this, too http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/02/lead-exposure-gasoline-crime-increase-children-health ):
So, young children who are most vulnerable to lead absorption go on twenty-three years later to perpetrate adult violence. As lead levels rose throughout the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, so too did violence correspondingly rise in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. When lead levels fell in the late 1970s and early 1980s, so too did violence fall in the 1990s and the first decade of the twenty-first century. Changes in lead levels explained a full 91 percent of the variance in violent offending—an extremely strong relationship.
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From international to national to state to city levels, the lead levels and violence curves match up almost exactly.
“Where is the plausible mechanism linking lead to crime?”
It changes the brain; neurologically, behaviorally and cognitively. It lowers impulse control, and as I’ve shown in the article, those exposed to lead have similar brain structures to antisocial/psychopathic people.
The hypothesis is: 1) lead exposure at a young age changes the brain permanently leading to impulse control problems and 2) which then leads to higher rates of arrest.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2017/06/01/new-evidence-that-lead-exposure-increases-crime/
What years did Japan have leaded gasoline?
Looking at mere correlations without very extensive controls is a questionable endeavor in this case, Race. There were lots of things going on in the 20th century, and high-SES people in the mid 20th century tended to flee the sorts of areas that attracted massive traffic, lead smelters, and crumbling lead-filled housing (even on a micro level). I do accept the lead-crime hypothesis may prove to be true, and there is a reasonable amount of suggestive evidence to its favor. But I’ve seen no smoking gun so far. Of course, I’m just an amateur who hasn’t researched this topic in depth. But if such a smoking gun did exist, it would be discussed all over the place.
“The hypothesis is: 1) lead exposure at a young age changes the brain permanently leading to impulse control problems and 2) which then leads to higher rates of arrest.”
The question is whether there was enough of an increase in lead concentrations in the post-war era U.S. to do this on a mass scale. Due to there being no appreciable decline in either average or average Black IQs in the U.S. during this time, I have doubts about this.
“What years did Japan have leaded gasoline?”
Japanese atmospheric lead concentrations were low until after WWII, soared during the 1950s, and peaked in the late 1960s. Lead was eliminated from regular gasoline in 1975 and from high-octane gasoline in 1986.
MENAs are preferable to native americans and mestizos from south of the border in one sense and worse in another.
they are are more tribal/clannish/lacking in trust and they adhere to a religion bent on world domination. but they’re smarter than mexicans.
MENA is just a shitty word for Muslims, given MENA isn’t a race.
I don’t know much about Mexicans but MENAs immigrating to America are much smarter than the average.
Algeria’s average IQ is 83 and they have better standards of living than Greece and Russia, what about Mexico ?
LOL! Algeria has better standards of living than Greece and Russia? In what world?
Ask Fenoopy.
It doesn’t, either I was misinformed or I didn’t say that. It does however have a lower homicide rate though these statistics (especially China’s) are being called into question by RR.
Since you are talking about China, it’s not just the crime stats that are probably false, but the eyekew and education data too. Here is the real story.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/09/one-three-chinese-children-faces-education-apocalypse-ambitious-experiment-hopes-save
Very interesting video.
i think china’s problems can be solved by haitian immigrants.
Actually Afro, that’s specifically talking about Rural China, Which is where most Crime occurs too. which despite enormous malnutrition still has a higher IQ than the average black american.
i blame black crime on fried chicken.
so that is where whitey is putting the lead to keep the black man down.
what peepee looks and sounds like.
Such wonderful moments together.
Go find her Pumpkin, Go find Oprah. Fulfil your dream.
Apparently ellen degenres has a similar personality to hilary clinton off camera .
I agree that lead can have some effect on the brain, possibly impulse control and general health but don’t think it’s a large factor in crime nor the primary factor.
What about the crime rate of black adoptees ? Any data on this ?
Race does lead explain why pumpkin does so much crime against commenters here?
Television (TV) viewing is known to affect children’s verbal abilities and other physical, cognitive, and emotional development in psychological studies. However, the brain structural development associated with TV viewing has never been investigated. Here we examined cross-sectional correlations between the duration of TV viewing and regional gray/white matter volume (rGMV/rWMV) among 133 boys and 143 girls as well as correlations between the duration of TV viewing and longitudinal changes that occurred a few years later among 111 boys and 105 girls. After correcting for confounding factors, we found positive effects of TV viewing on rGMV of the frontopolar and medial prefrontal areas in cross-sectional and longitudinal analyses, positive effects of TV viewing on rGMV/rWMV of areas of the visual cortex in cross-sectional analyses, and positive effects of TV viewing on rGMV of the hypothalamus/septum and sensorimotor areas in longitudinal analyses. We also confirmed negative effects of TV viewing on verbal intelligence quotient (IQ) in cross-sectional and longitudinal analyses. These anatomical correlates may be linked to previously known effects of TV viewing on verbal competence, aggression, and physical activity. In particular, the present results showed effects of TV viewing on the frontopolar area of the brain, which has been associated with intellectual abilities.
https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/25/5/1188/311796
Thoughts, anyone?
pseudo-science like all psychology.
…is known to affect…may be linked to…showed effects…
the authors, like all psychologists, don’t understand the difference between correlation and cause and effect.
sad!
i never watch tv, but i do watch videos online. this is different in two ways. #1 i get to choose what i watch. #2 i get to choose when i watch it and i can stop it and start it and rewind it. i will be watching the world cup on tv this summer.
I’ve been reading a lot of things and from everything I can see, Trump seems legit. I.e. he may be the first politician at national level that actually believes in what he says.
If you trace the videos of him from the 90s, he is remarkably consistent in what he says even if it sounds dumb sometimes. That line he has about ‘we should have taken the oil’ about Iraq is idiotic but it makes sense in a kind of barebones way.
For example, Sailer has a story about how the immigration department changed its mission statement to get rid of the jewish ‘nation of immigrants’ crap. Its small things like that that say a lot about Trumpy.
Most people dont know that Trumps mother was beaten to brain damage by an illegal immigrant. Trump believes in this stuff. Its not really an act. More like an exaggeration.
imus said the same thing prior to iraq ii. why are we ingratiating ourselves with these guys wearing bath robes? why don’t we just kick them out and take their oil?
the gulf states will soon return to full-on barbarism. the flood of tight oil + the electric car and truck can’t be sandbagged by OPEC production cuts for much longer. another thing prof shoe and i agree on. the camel jockeys are toast. oman will do best.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/16/joy-behar-oprah-pence-mental-illness-god/
So its not just me taking Oprah literally Robert. In my opinion, Oprah did mean it in the same way Jim Jones would say something like that. It wasn’t figurative speech.
You either believe she believes in God in the same way Mike Pence does….or you suspect shes a snake charmer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_charming
Well, one good way to tell if your regular news source is legit or brainwashing is to acid test them on Russia. I typed in Oprah + Russian hacking and didnt find anything. This makes me think Oprah is legit because if she was on board with the jews, she would be doing the brainwashing like Stephen Colbert or Ellen or Jimmy Fallon etc etc from their cue cards.In fairness Oprah passed the Iraq mind control puppet test.
i found nbc broadcasting the state of the union online. i couldn’t take it. brokaw said, “putin casts a shadow over this address.”
it’s like a dream.
peepee is an uncle tom so she doesn’t think brokaw et al are actually that stupid.
they are.
hanlon’s razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
My favourite mind control puppet is the CNN people. Its so cartoonish with them. I never thought Fox News would look legitimate but theyve been doing some good work debunking the Russia nonsense.
tucker has disappointed me with his gun nuttery.
although…
breivik bought his gun legally in norway and he could have bought his magazines in sweden, but they were more expensive than mail-order from the US. the paris terrorists bought their guns in eastern europe.
there is a problem with US society beyond guns. the NRA is actually right about that. canada has liberal gun laws. but can a canadian by the same gun that this cuban teenager used?
…buy the same gun…
must correct all apparent stupos.
If you can’t see brainwashing, does that mean you have a low IQ? No. I met many people who would be in MENSA or phd educated and they believe whatever BBC people tell them.
IQ tests dont measure social intelligence or social experience. Thats the achilles heel. Thats why a “genius” like Bill Gates can make such fucking retarded decisions about ‘helping the world’…by doing the exact opposite.
this is a failing of IQ tests…that it’s possible to score high and still be retarded in another sense. but my guess is such autistic people are a small minority of high scorers.
No it’s not a failing of IQ tests. Everyone is retarded in some way.
that is, one among the many reasons for the low correlation between status and IQ above an IQ of 100 is that IQ also correlates positively with un-brainwash-able-ness and un-ovine-ness.
he was born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.
That would the lower the IQ-status correlation uniformly, not just above 100
Now Trump wouldn’t get a pHd in comp science. But he can sleep with supermodels and become president unlike Gates.
SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE. IT CANT BE MEASURED, BUT IT EXISTS.
but “social intelligence” is used in at least three senses.
1. are you a team player? do you obey social conventions? are you a sheep like us?
2. how good are you at manipulating people? getting people to like you?
3. the genuine and Cynical sense: what is the sensitivity of your bullshit-o-meter? to what extent can you see social conventions as such?
Im going to be honest. The idea of someone like Zuckerberg or Gates as my countrys national leader would terrify me. I bet within 10 days, theyd donate all the countries prime age women to Syria. They are that dumb.
Zuckerberg fails to understand the dangers of A.I. but Elon Musk fails to understand you need specific infrastructure for A.I. to become a superweapon. YouTube could not exist in 1985 because the infrastructure was not there. This is what Elon does not see for A.I. Superintelligence.
Sorry, I am being autistic again but you need to be facebook autistic to not see A.I. as having threat potential. I saw the zuck talk on a.i. – it was cring. I agree with you philosopher.
honest stupidity
i agree with pill that tech billionaires are not as smart as wall street billionaires and especially in the verbal.
for example, both gates and soros have been interviewed for an hour by the now disgraced charlie rose. english is not soros’s first langauge…yet it’s clear who the smarter person is.
one of the ways to get rich, starting a company, requires one be a nerd in the sense gates himself gave. that is, it requires one be passionate about ONE thing. very passionate.
and the specialization of labor is new to the human species. any ONE thing is too boring for most people, especially the very smart. “a jack of all trades and a master of none” describes a lot of high IQ people.
Soros is much dumber than gates. You’re confusing evil with intelligence.
Soros comes across as smarter because below 150 IQ, one finds charlie rose interesting and gives thoughtful replies. Gates being 170 IQ is bored out if his mind so just recites talking points.
I actually suck at tech stuff despite me talking about it all the time. I use my abstract verbal (132) to infer sci-fi and tech possibilities. Fantasy is fun too but I like toys that become intelligent because they think in the way that they become self-referenced. What is math and logic and visual intelligence and quant intelligence? It is rules-based. Language is if you are a genius to understand it I will tell you, is theory of mind to make others see into your mind by symbols that evoke realizations of how reality is or could be by imagination that you wish to share. As Mugabe would say (my God… the genius of that!)
So I say this to tell you I am language smart more than tech smart to gain approval because you value the language smart. I love ideas and I think that tech smart will not create theory of mind language A.I. – It must be self-referenced to evoke realization. And I guess that I cannot do it. I need both tech and language. I only know language. Quant is not enough to hold all vectors that point to themselves. But hope is that some genius will do it. I am a dumb person because I am slow. I have a learning disability so even if I am a valuable contributor to pumpkins blog I cannot process information fast enough to fully be at the level of Philosopher and Mugabe. I am just some guy on disability income with gifted language ability and abstract theoretical understanding of technology.
I’d put money on Soros being smarter than Gates on a full scale WAIS IV test. If there was also a way to measure social intelligence, it would be even more.
The way Soros made money requires a lot more knowledge.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/frederick-douglasss-fight-against-scientific-racism/
Fred Douglass = Afrosapiens.
When I first saw this picture I laughed for 10 minutes straight.
afro doesn’t think “we was kangz.” afro thinks every jungle bunny can be made a good citizen of france. that he claims to have boinked 100 different women by the age of 24, whether true or false, demonstrates that you can take the jungle bunny out of the jungle, but you can’t take the jungle out of the jungle bunny.
Reasons why racial tensions are so high in the current year:
1. Jews.
2. Proximity = Division. You notice differences a lot more with open borders.
3. Non whites want to live among whites always.
4. Some races of man are more predatory than others.
5. Resources of certain kinds are in fact limited.
some non-whites don’t want to live with whites. koreans, japanese, and the chinese of hk and the sing sing correctional facility.
given the EXTREME differences in education systems in korea, japan, et al (vs in white countries) the only good evidence for flushtonism is in adoption studies, whites adopting china babies.
what i recall is that these babies DO have higher IQs than the white mean BUT their mean IQs were actually LESS than those of their adoptive parents. that is, they’re modest outscoring the average white doesn’t require a genetic explanation.
what WAS undeniable was their IQ “profile”. that is, PIQ > VIQ.
hawaii is an example of how asians are NOT superior as a group. so are all asian americans who are descended from 19th c immigrants. these immigrants were not select. were they from the bottom of society in their home countries? maybe. maybe not. what’s certain is…they weren’t from the top, like professor shoe’s parents.
flynn found that chinese americans in california in the 70s actually scored slightly lower than the white mean, but their academic achievement corresponded to that of high IQ whites. in the 70s most of these immigrants would NOT have been “fresh off the boat”.
for the benefit of pill: in the US “asian” means mongoloid.
for the benefit of peepee: in the UK “asian” means south asian, hindustani.
…the
y’reir modest outscoring…for the benefit of peepee: in the UK “asian” means south asian, hindustani.
Yes i know
And for the benefit of you, in the U.S. census (which differs from popular use), Asian means East Asian, South Asian & Southeast Asian.
“A Chinese scientist doing genetic research on ancient humans isolated a gene which began appearing in humans at the same time that language and city building first occurred. He determined that sub-Saharan Africans were, and still are, lacking in that gene. His research was published but he was quickly condemned and forced to disavow his own work. I doubt you could find much about that now.”
Viz the gene for detecting hypocrisy. Apparently blacks dont have it. Explains a lot to be honest.
give a link pill-tard.
I think one of the most interesting things they’ll discover in neuroscience/genetics is the idea that personality is heritable. Its not random. And if you accept that, you can see how dark triad traits are passed on. And at that point, you have to ask why do women find dark triad traits so alluring?
NATURAL LAW.
i hope you’re joking.
man is a social animal.
personality simply isn’t a trait of individuals.
that is, the individual’s personality traits make sense within his society and similar societies, but if he had an identical twin in a very different society…
it’s apples and oranges.
for example, when american personality tests are administered to china people in china they score very different from china people in the US…so different that selective immigration can’t explain the difference.
You can put an asian kid in australia, and he will still grow up to like video games just like he would have in Japan.
I bet within my lifetime people stop treating blacks like special olympics participants. I think more people will end up like me. Theyll see it was a gigantic fraud.
does your home country treat them that way?
Philosophy writing is usually pretty dense because some of them are inventing terms and phrases as they write. I think every single good philosopher invents new phrases or terms for new concepts out of necessity and a dash of artistic flourish in Nietsches case.
Of course, sometimes what philosophers say doesn’t make sense. Im reading Socrates/Plato at the moment and a lot of what he says doesn’t make sense. Maybe Im dumb. He seems to keep using the argument X is like Y, therefore X is Y.
Will you do something for your schizophrenia someday? You should triple your dose of antipsychotics.
Why do you always insult people?
LOL? Are you seriously asking me that question after all the racist drivel you vomit here on a daily basis?
I’m asking the schizo if he does something for his mental disorders, what’s wrong with that?
haitian orphan adopted by rich french people calls genuine frenchmen “white trashes“, claims to have fornicated with 100 different women, thinks a yuge poly pony on his shirt is well dressed, listens to rap, loves ganja, etc, etc, …
afro, a real or pretend person, is an example of how verwoerd was right…a small minority of blacks can excel, but only within an 85% white society…if they can excel at all.
You’re love with me, right?
…yuge polo pony…
Sure, I’m racist, but I don’t attack people every second comment.
I attack whoever deserves to be attacked.
In fairness to Afro, Fenoopy insults people as much. He just like playing the innocent.
Yes, he always tones down when called out on his despicable behavior.
Not recently, though I’d like to.
a very recent and interesting example of how the contemporary ranking of IQ was different.
europe was always ahead, even in the dark ages, but it went nuclear with the industrial revolution. it became another planet.
where did the industrial revolution start?
northern england and southern scotland.
today both places are like west virginia or (for canadians) nova scotia…
but the drama North and South suggest that southern england was always richer and northern england was merely exploited.
so maybe it’s not an example.
but the single most important person in the revolution was born, lived, and died in london.
henry maudslay is the most important person of the last 300 years…yet almost no one has heard of him.
sad!
Looks like Willy Wonka
Don’t hate on me (scared face)
Loved the song
everyone has a “picture”, a picture of the whole world/all reality.
this picture may be mostly un-conscious. but it’s there. even for the dumbest.
what is NOT appreciated consciously by anyone, even the smartest, is how much of the world is man made.
henry maudslay is the single most important person in making mass production possible.
oprah is wears clothes and not leather…because maudslay.
interchangeable parts!
i was watching my own comments and i thought…
why did the iceman kill over 100 people?
psycholgoist: “you’re a sociopath.”
reality: “i had three kids to support.”
men are the ultimate mafia. maybe.
they win via intimidation.
it’s subtle but un-mis-take-able.
men intimidate women AND other men.
do it OR…
life is demanding without understanding.
a gay jew (manilow) singing about a beautiful woman and mob violence…in a setting where “mob” may mean both cosa nostra and colombians…
and one of the protaganists is named “rico”.
that’s entertainment!
peepee should let me ax pill a question, but not about himself. if his answer is credit worthy i’ll know he’s a real person.
the question would be about stock market valuations and the very low interest rates of japan, the EU, and the OECD in general.
My medication is working fine for me at this present time Afro. Many thanks for your concern.
medication is never enough…because…
psychiatry is 90% ideology, 10% medicine.
that is…
the ruling class or its representatives have an ace in the hole.
viz.
“you’re crazy!”
Why is low digit ratio in blacks existent while high levels of schizophrenia are present in the population, Philo?
I think digit ratios explain our cultural phenomenon over the past century and two decades. From an intelligence point of view, it can explain the Flynn effect, it can explain fluid intelligence being more present as we get older. I think it also implies our musical and athletic abilities, and we’ve selected for that quite a bit. I also think there’s a strong argument to make for how digit ratio happens to shift our global culture. Philosopher, the West’s culture has changed because we’ve gotten more feminized females, possibly males, and hypermasculinized blacks. I don’t think Jews run as much as the Magic Negro does. I’m not even white and I think I already have great insight on this subject. The Magic Negro is a cultural phenomenon that will impact our species for the next hundred to two hundred years.
In my opinion the magic negro phenomenon is a jewish invention. And it goes back to the earliest days of the civil rights movement. You can read Kevin MacDonald’s book. Its a good primer on jewish involvement in the civil rights movement. Its truly bizarre.
If you tie someone to a chair and ask them why they think black achievement is so magical…after a lot of questioning you’d realise they see blacks as not actually having agency. Like they are an important part of a plot. Or a story. Once, you you see that aspect, you then have to ask – who created this story?
Its obvious people didn’t rationally or spontaneously decide to celebrate magical negro. Because you’re not white you probably weren’t imbibed with jewish story telling from a young age.
The classic sign of brainwashing is that the person believes in the narrative arc more than the actual people in the story.
Weren’t you the one saying that Berbers were just a bunch of leeches and that black people were a shitty race?
What race are you ?
Kys lyrion. Race baiting bitch.
Hi, you good. all races have their own problems. I have a disdain for lack of moral agency
Tell me more, you seem to have a very particular worldview. Why are you so evasive ?
Well, tcharmil have zero moral agency so I can’t imagine you’ll like Berbers very much if you live in France or the Netherlands. In Canada or London however I don’t think there are any tcharmil.
I’m not evasive. Also, I meant jk, not hi, my autocorrect is fucked up. I don’t type much because typing on a phone is fairly difficult. I mean have you seen Philo’s mistakes when he types on a phone. But anyway, I think any group of people who act without moral integrity because of their professed mating strategies happens to be that, then I don’t know, I’d say that they’re a fucked group of individuals. I think it’s very evil and societally pervasive to allow people to act with morals. Morality is a rational thing, and the only people who are rational are white. Now not all rational people translate into moral individuals, but moral individuals must be rational, that’s Philosophy 101, Philo. Keep up. Now, Lyrion, does that answer your question?
“the only people who are rational are white.”
How can I even begin to respond to this? Is it appropriate to respond, even? Is this a joke?
Well, there are also non-white people who are perfectly moral and rational.
You said you weren’t white yourself, what race are you ?
I would say I’m not a rational, but an emotional being. I have yet to meet a non-white person, discluding people who even have a moderate amount of white in them, that’s completely rational in thought. More like their moral capacity and their capacity to fully behave in a rational perspective is damaged. I’m a mulatto, but some Pashtun and part Caucusus, by the way, Lyrion. A noble race of man that believes in honor culture to the extent where we’ve almost genocided ourselves.I think that’s a significant differentiator between berbers and pashtuns, as well as chechenyans. Berbers have mo honor culture to keep them in line, as far as I know, and I think this causes a great moral struggle for them. Any culture that isn’t rational must take on the honor culture to escape moral decay when in the West. Not saying it works at home, because the opposite is evidently true, but as far moving to the West and integrating, it helps to have honor and pride. Then again, there is lack of mental health in these countries I’m from, like the Tzarnenev brothers and the lot of suicidal Pashtuns who have given up their lives for a cause that seems lost and impractical to me.
No, not mo, though my accidental use of ebonics seems a bit intentional there haha.
In which country are you living ?
You are mulatto like 50% black + 50% white with some caucasian and pashtun ? It’s really weird caucasus people mixing with black people, I have never seen that in my life.
This guy is a full-blooded berber and perfectly rational and moral.
Philosopher, have you noticed how in the past 100 years, inventions and media have all been cultivated to fit the black agenda. I mean, look at sports, our greatest pastime. I think we’ve evolved sports specifically for the very reason of cultivating a master race. When Adolf was faced with the injustice of having to see his race fall against the might of Jesse Owens, he saw the face of destruction. It was that moment that we were enamored with the Magic Negro.
AFAIK the first sports practiced by humans were mostly bloodsports or martial arts. Maybe you’re right in a literal sense of weeding out the weak but most of the people that participated in them were forced to participate. If you look at it most of the time the lower class are a lot more athletically robust than the upper classes historically. For the same reason slaves were always most physically explosive.
I think that it makes sense that you they were under physical selection. I think this explains RaceRealist’s questions on violence and aggression.
One of the things I like about insurance contracts is that you have insider knowledge. I.e. the insurance co has to price you as if you are atypical of a certain profile….but you know how often you get seriously ill, car accidents, lose your phone etc. You know it. I’ve made tons of money from insurance in my lifetime. Much more than stocks.
HBD and the mezzogiorno.
how many HBDers have addressed this?
this is exactly like north korea vs south korea just not as bad.
the mezzogiorno is isolated geographically, but it should still be richer than it is.
this gap has been explained by its inhabitants as due to cosa nostra.
gayman and other HBDers explain cosa nostra with genes.
but maybe the reality is social institutions have inertia and cosa nostra arose in 18th c italy at a time when it was, in a sense, needed. that is, it served as government in a lawless place. and it has persisted…because all social institutions persist, NOT because southern italians have a special talent for gangsterism.
the HBD explanation is that the peoples of the world differ in clannishness and trust and southern italians are merely on the far end among europeans in low trust and clannishness.
this sentiment is expressed at the end of The Godfather Part II.
but is it genetic?
this makes the point that peoples may thrive or not for reasons other than IQ/cognitive ability. there are personality factors which can destroy even a society of high IQ people.
this was also stated by huxley in Brave New World via mustapha mond.
Agree entirely with the Italians. Country isn’t your blood. Why would I fight and die as a peasant for the interests of elites that aren’t my family?
Only Europeans vote for political ideals, in Africa people vote according to their tribes.
I see civilization as a large cattle farm.
Europeans can vote left for: Jew, or vote right for: Jew.
Jewish elites, whom by the way, are very much European.
Did you know Trump’s daughter is married to a Jew?
You are cattle.
Take care of your own.
You are right in a sense but individualism is what made westerners so powerful and rich in my opinion. Now individualism appear to be more and more obsolete.
Civilizations have lifespans. Western civilization is experiencing moral and religious decay right now and is probably nearing the end of its lifespan. It’s experiencing all the sickness the Ottoman empire once did, when it was one of the world’s greatest powers. It lead to the decay of Islam into a brain disease instead of a religion. Leftism is the decay of your founding ideology (liberalism) into a brain disease.
You’ll see the same pattern play out many times in history, including with the Chinese.
Yeah I agree the NRA does have a point in that Switzerland and Canada and so on have nearly liberal enough equivalent gun laws to the US and don’t have such incidents.
I remember reading a study showing if you compare countries with similar gun laws and took into account population size, you would see the US doesn’t actually have that many gun deaths. I don’t know if it was done properly.
My hunch is that Sailer is right. The gun death epidemic disappears once you subtract members of the magical community.
it was a cuban with sinatra ears who did this latest. he looks 100% white.
in some parts of canada a rifle MAY be advisable just to protect from polar bears and other wild animals. but that’s a tiny % of canadians.
the problem is proles…the stupid whites.
recall archie bunker asked, “would you prefer they was pushed out o’ windows little girl?
killing people with guns is so much easier than any other method i assume that no guns would mean a much lower murder rate.
but the US murder rate is much lower than it was in 1980 and norway, canada, and sweden’s are much lower than than the US’s.
so there are TWO problems which neither side will admit.
that is…
the anti-gun people won’t admit that the US is shit/fubar.
the gun nuts won’t admit that there are guns no one has any reason to own…except entertainment. maybe that’s it. these mass shootings are entertainment.
The gun problem is really not understood statisticall’y. Thar’s really weird for me never reading a sound comment on that matter .
btw, i may have fired a gun once. i don’t remember. it was my aunt’s husband’s gun. i have never owned a gun.
but i demand my right to carry a samurai sword to protect me from criminals.
i am a card carrying member of the NSSA, national samurai sword association.
People will read my comments and say: That man is evil. That man is disgusting. Blah Blah. Blah.
It never enters their mind that their entire narrative arc about who the good guys are and who the bad guys are is the opposite to reality. All you have to do is look at the statistics on which groups are most psychopathic.
It is a JOKE that whites are presented as the most evil humans. The truth is the aesthetic. Places where whites live tend to look ‘good’. The picket fence. The manicured fingernails. The perfume from the lady in the elevator. Its supposed to be OBVIOUS. Its kind of like a reverse IQ test – simplify everything to really basic observations and youll get the right answer.
Back in the 60s a lot of the conservatives used to really hate their social justice warriors – the so called ‘hippies’. Notice how most hippies were actually college students not uneducated hillbillys.
Im telling you all now. Remember it for the rest of your life. Colleges are a slaughterhouse. When you send your son/daughter there just imagine a sheep on a conveyor belt or a guy strapped to a chair.
The only thing you should be studying in college is hard science subjects.
That chomsky line about ‘what does it matter what race you are, i judge you on your character’ crap is something a jew would say. If you are a hedge fund manager, and you have a black, asian and latino applicant for a role and you don’t have time to interview everyone, what are you going to do? If you are a basketball coach, where are you going to send scouts – the anime festival or the ghetto?
Thats what I hate most about jewish brainwashing. It takes wishful thinking and makes a virtue out of believing in it for its own sake. So even if you know deep down its dumb, you want to still think it so that someday it might be right. Its snake oil.
100%the only reason for it is self preservation. Jews dont give a fuck about native americans, blacks, latinos etc etc, only in the context of ‘the minority shall prevail’. Its psychopathic.
I want to preserve all tall people. If a tall person is Black or Chinese or White or Jewish, it makes no difference to me. Short is short.
There’s no psychopathy in that.
Tall people are the proles of society. Mutations in height lead to taller people, not less mutations. Therefore it is a great disservice to mankind to increase height. Now IQ works the same way, where if you have a good allele frequency, you end up high IQ mutations that then lead to high IQs. But a normal allele frequency, with little mutation and deviation from a normal person, leads to a more average IQ or below average IQ. I think Pumpkin can maybe verify. Ideal height is 5’9-5’11”. That’s where the geniuses are, not in exceptionally tall people, though this due to speculation, just like there isn’t enough information for RR to believe that shorter people live longer, though from mere speculation on the subject you can see why it’s a bit obvious.
“if you have a good allele frequency, you end up high IQ mutations that then lead to high IQs”
Where?
his name was “rico”. he wore a diamond.
he wore a diamond.

the Guinness Book claimed that al capone was the most successful criminal ever.
but my latest edition is from 1991.
did “the godfather of cocaine” exceed capone in inflation adjusted dollars?
NO!
why?
because the market for alcohol is ALWAYS larger than the market for cocaine…
OR ANY OTHER SUBSTANCE.
even if the comparison is US vs the world.
al got lucky. he was born at the right time.
not that lucky.
the godfather movies are interesting from a personal perspective.
my brother thinks they’re boring, like Citizen Kane. he hates critics.
but both movies were “popular” successes. the first was the highest grossing movie of 1972.
these two are like marx and heidgger. for me.
when i was younger i agreed with my brother. i still think Citizen Kane is boring.
now i have come to see them as in the top 20.
both of them.
but i still think coppola’s best is Apocalypse Now.
it’s true.
fidel was a class traitor…a good thing.
WHEN AMERICA WAS GREAT!
it’s so obvious it’s sad.
still waiting for pill to give ANY evidence of his SCZ.
the smart person may have three impressions of his inferiors.
1. they aren’t trying hard enough. and haven’t tried hard enough.
2. their environment has been shitty.
3. they’re sub-human.
that has to be the single funniest line EVER.
you checked out things like vegetable shortening?
greatest american singer: sinatra
greatest supreme court justice: scalia
greatest american criminal: al capone
greatest version of nessun dorma: beniamino gigli
all roads lead to rome.
social gedanken-experiment: overnight every woman becomes bigger and stronger than the average man.
what would happen?
it would be like joe pesci’s character from Goodfellas became the boss of all bosses.
that’s what it would be like.
not good.
i feel sorry for peepee.
when i was in the liquor store today i overheard the lebanese owner talking to a girl, a very swarthy girl.
“…but i’m in college. i’m the first person in my family…”
america is doomed.
what could i say? nothing. it would’ve been “inappropriate”.